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moonlitdoor
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fair enough, I obviously misunderstood the recent posts as I thought they were referring to a real event about which we only had partial information.

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Hedgehog

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I understand. When we start discussing how dangerous that particular road was and speculating as to how many other people might have been in the traveling party or whether any of them were walking alone, it is easy to think that an historical event was being discussed instead of just an illustrative story told by Jesus.

I think the line gets blurry because, to make the story effective, Jesus would tell a parable based on things that his listeners would identify with or be familiar with. That leads us, in this current age, to try to understand the real-life situation: how the road was, how people would have traveled, etc. It doesn't mean the GS story was true, but it was set in a true-to-life situation.

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Anselm
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I recall hearing one preacher explain that the road from Jerusalem to Jericho winds in and out, such that the travelers would have seen the others who were ahead of them on the road as they wound in and out.
The levite, he said, would have most likely seen the priest ahead, and thus realised he had passed by the injured man, and so been influenced by his example.

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Alan Cresswell

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It does rather suppose that the thieves robbed the man on a nice open stretch of the road where others on the road could clearly see what was going on (ie: when subsequent travellers came along could see them passing by the injured man), rather than one of the locations where they would be hidden from others on the road.

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no prophet's flag is set so...

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quote:
Originally posted by Kwesi:
moonlitdoor
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Was there a real good Samaritan ?
Of course there was! Several in fact. Indeed, some of my best friends are Samaritans.
Might it be that in today's world we could talk of the "Good Atheist" or "Good Agnostic" as well?

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Og, King of Bashan

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Or, depending on where you stand, the good Muslim, the good undocumented worker, the good refugee, or even the good conservative evangelical fundamentalist. Figure out what shocks you personally the most, and that's what you should probably hear.

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no prophet's flag is set so...

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quote:
Originally posted by Og, King of Bashan:
Or, depending on where you stand, the good Muslim, the good undocumented worker, the good refugee, or even the good conservative evangelical fundamentalist. Figure out what shocks you personally the most, and that's what you should probably hear.

Good point re shocking the most. Thus, in my western Canadian context, with daily comments here about the need to "indigenize*", we should take the stand point of the aboriginal inhabitants, and retell the parable as that of the remarkable "good Christian".

*indigenize: (re)adopt the perspective of the original inhabitants over settler cultures

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Kwesi
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Although "otherness" is emphasised in both the telling and re-telling of the Good Samaritan, the intensity of the hostility between Jews and Samaritans arose as much from their similarities as differences. It was their competing claims to be the authentic descendants of the Mosaic tradition that fuelled their animosity: Gezirim having a more ancient provenance than Jerusalem. They were divided by orthodoxy and heresy within a culture rather than differences of culture. Indeed, we might conclude that the most intense conflicts arise between societies with a common history and values rather than between those of greatly contrasting values. Modern comparisons are not between Christians and Muslims but between Catholic and Protestant, Sunni and Shia, and the like. Perhaps we are most separate from the people most like us.
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