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Utrecht Catholic
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A full communion service on Good Friday is a typical German Lutheran invention.
As far as I know, it is unknown in the Scandinavian or US Lutheran Churches.
Furthermore,Communion from the Reserved Sacrament,as practised by the Anglicans,Eastern Orthodox and Roman-Catholics is not allowed in the Lutheran tradition.
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Ecclesiastical Flip-flop
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I am at a loss to know of any (Anglican) church that has the full order of service of Mass/Eucharist/Communion with the consecration of the sacred elements on Good Friday. But I am attached to the liturgy of the presanctified as my personal choice.
At my main church, a change of priest-in-charge occurred three years ago, but one change (not for the better in my view), is that the incoming priest "dropped" the use of the presanctified, so that communion can no longer be received on Good Friday at that church. Consequently, I find my preferred usage with the presanctified in a neighbouring parish.
The rite of the presanctified makes sense to me, because in this way, communion can be received uninterruptedly on each of the three days of the Easter Triduum.
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Originally posted by Ecclesiastical Flip-flop:
I am at a loss to know of any (Anglican) church that has the full order of service of Mass/Eucharist/Communion with the consecration of the sacred elements on Good Friday.
The red "Lent, Holy Week and Easter" service book that ran alongside the ASB had a rubric that suggested that it was entirely appropriate to celebrate the Eucharist on Good Friday. I notice that its replacement "Times and Seasons" notes that communion should be taken from the reserved sacrament.
As I mentioned upthread, they certainly used to do a full Eucharist at St Leonard's, Streatham on Good Friday, but I don't know if they still do.
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The ' Three Hours' was indeed originally a Jesuit devotion,from an earlier time in the Catholic church.
Before the changes instituted by Pius XII in the 1950s the Good Friday liturgy with the Mass of the Presanctified took place in the morning.
Other parts of the day were filled with extra-liturgical or paraliturgical devotions such as Three hours, Seven last words,Stations of the Cross,Maria Desolata.
Since the changes the Mass of the Presanctified has been changed into a simple distribution of Holy Communion and many of the other extra liturgical devotions have simply disappeared.
Sometimes Anglicans have kept them.
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leo
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Originally posted by Albertus:
BCP 1662 gives readings for Communion on Good Friday, doesn't it- so presumably it must envisage (have envisaged) a celebration that day?
It also has provision fopr Holy saturday but there is no evidencve that it was evidence that it was ever ce;lebrated. Instead, 'table prayers' - ante-communion was said.
However, there is evidence from Pepys' diaries that Good Friday communion took place in St. Paul's Cathedral.
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Our Anglo-Catholic church had the Liturgy of Good Friday, as described by Pete. The odd thing is that it started, rather than finished, at three o'clock ![[Ultra confused]](graemlins/confused2.gif)
Good Friday is the day that I am least comfortable with moving up the candle and want a proper 3-hours as used to be done at the MOTR church of my youth. I had not realised that it came from the Jesuits.
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I am feeling tired and a bit dim: where this happened what was the reason for using reserved sacraments?
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Barefoot Friar
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Thank you, Gamaliel. I think I'm going to start using that!
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Albertus
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Originally posted by leo:
quote:
Originally posted by Albertus:
BCP 1662 gives readings for Communion on Good Friday, doesn't it- so presumably it must envisage (have envisaged) a celebration that day?
It also has provision fopr Holy saturday but there is no evidencve that it was evidence that it was ever ce;lebrated. Instead, 'table prayers' - ante-communion was said.
However, there is evidence from Pepys' diaries that Good Friday communion took place in St. Paul's Cathedral.
Very interesting- thank you.
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Originally posted by JoannaP:
Our Anglo-Catholic church had the Liturgy of Good Friday, as described by Pete. The odd thing is that it started, rather than finished, at three o'clock
That is the time appointed in the "extraordinary form" of the Roman Rite, and both the traditional Roman Catholic churches in this area (SSPX and FSSP) had their Liturgies at 3. (The Anglican cathedral came close, at 2, going to about 4 or so).
I'm given to understand that it's less common in the US, since the provision of a statutory holiday on Good Friday varies by state. In Canada, however, I have never encountered an evening Good Friday Liturgy.
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No Eucharist on Good Friday … No offering, either ...
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Uncle Pete
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Originally posted by Teilhard:
No Eucharist on Good Friday … No offering, either ...
In the Canadian Church, as far as I can remember in my Catholic adulthood, there is a special collection for the Holy Land. Preprinted envelopes are in your envelope set, or available in the pews.
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I'm not keen on celebrations of the Eucharist on Good Friday, but I'd accept communion from the reserved sacrament and it took me a while to get used to that. We receive it in just one kind though - I think it's because of the events we're commemorating (?)
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Indeed, Forthview. The typological aspects of the Mass of the Presanctified was lost in the 1955 Reforms - as much else of worth in the classical Roman Triduum. The Priest alone would take communion then, illustrating, even representing what is typologically set forth in the lection from Hebrews.
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Depends what you mean by 'back then'.Yes,it was the case on Good Friday at the Mass of the PreSanctified that only the priest communicated
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sorry,got cut off there.
Rubrics for Good Friday stated that only the priest communicated from the Host used in the Mass of the Presanctified.
There was,however, no rubric which stated that others might not communicate.
It was generally the tradition that the priest alone communicated at the Sunday Sung Mass.
Much of this had to do with fasting laws before reception of Communion.
Granted that before the time of pope Pius X the lay faithful would generally not receive Communion more than once a month and then generally at Mass in the early morning or even
as was also common at one time outside of the celebration of Mass again in the early morning.
In the early 1900s Pius X encouraged the regular reception of Communion,even daily by the faithful.
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Fr Weber
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We did the Solemn Liturgy of Good Friday as outlined in the American Missal :
1) Altar Service (i.e. the lessons from Hosea, Hebrews, & the Passion from St John, with tracts in between)
2) the Solemn Collects
3) the Veneration of the Cross
4) the Mass of the Pre-Sanctified (i.e. communion in one kind only from the reserved Sacrament)
No organ; the choir sang the tracts, the Reproaches, Crux fidelis, and Pange lingua (not the Eucharistic one). Post-communion hymn was "Were you there?", a cappella, of course! The only strangeness was that a couple of folks (who should have known better) stood at the rail for a bit waiting for someone to come around with the chalice. ![[Hot and Hormonal]](icon_redface.gif)
As mentioned above, the fact that the BCP has propers for both Good Friday & Holy Saturday implies that a celebration of the Eucharist was envisioned. I tend to like the Missal version of the Triduum much better.
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