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Teekeey Misha
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Assuming it was "Guiting Power" and not the original Youth Praise tune.
Oh it was definitely always Guiting Power. I wouldn't give the Baughan tune houseroom.
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Gracious rebel
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Originally posted by L'organist:
The first tune (Michael Baughen, I think?) isn't a great one - it can be confused with something you'd expect to come from a fairground organ.
What a brilliant description! However I must say that tune gets more interesting when you get to the chorus bit: - "Yours the glory and the crown...... the high.... re...-nown...., the eter....nal..... name"
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BroJames
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Originally posted by L'organist:
The first tune (Michael Baughen, I think?) isn't a great one - it can be confused with something you'd expect to come from a fairground organ.
Yes, the original tune was by Michael Vaughn, arranged by Noel Tredinnick.
Mutter, mutter autocorrect…
What I meant to say was:
Yes, the original tune was by Michael Baughen, arranged by Noel Tredinnick.
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dj_ordinaire
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Originally posted by Gracious rebel:
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Originally posted by L'organist:
The first tune (Michael Baughen, I think?) isn't a great one - it can be confused with something you'd expect to come from a fairground organ.
What a brilliant description! However I must say that tune gets more interesting when you get to the chorus bit: - "Yours the glory and the crown...... the high.... re...-nown...., the eter....nal..... name"
Although not to my usual taste I rather like both the hymn and the tune - in fact, I had no idea it was ever sung to anything else!
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venbede
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Ditto. I like the tune and I've never heard any other. St Paul's Cathedral seemed to do it every time I was there. That was in Michael Baughan's time.
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L'organist
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The other thing about the Baughen tune is its very strong resemblance to The Lumberjack Song ![[Ultra confused]](graemlins/confused2.gif)
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Gracious rebel
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Originally posted by L'organist:
The other thing about the Baughen tune is its very strong resemblance to The Lumberjack Song
Well I'd not noticed the resemblance before so I would hardly call it strong. I do get what you mean though, but its just 5 notes that sound the same, ie the bit of tune that goes with 'hear us as we sing' are the same notes that go with (sus)'-penders and a bra'
Nowhere near as strong a resemblance as that between 'All I once held dear' and 'The Ugly Duckling'! (With that one there are 13 consecutive notes that sound exactly like 'And he went with a quack and a waddle and a quack') ![[Biased]](wink.gif)
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Baptist Trainfan
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I always find that the signature tune to "The One Show" (BBC) reminds of the theme to Jamie Owens' "Come Together".
That dates me; but even worse is the fact that the third line of "Lead us heavenly Father" takes me straight to the 1960s police series "Softly Softly" (the sequel to "Z Cars").
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Teekeey Misha
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The first line of St Kevin by Sir Arthur Sullivan is a ringer for the beginning of "Into Parliament he must go" from Iolanthe, also by Sullivan. So much so, that I always sing the next line from the operetta in place of the next line from the hymn, because it amuses me and you take what you can get...
I don't imagine it was his intention to mingle his operettas (which he hated) with his hymnody (which he didn't) but there you go.
Come, ye fay-ay-thful, raise the strain...
In.....-to Par-lia-ment he... shall go...
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Kaplan Corday
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I can't sing Glorious Things Of Thee Are Spoken without substituting Tony Hancock's Coughs And Sneezes Spread Diseases.
Decades ago there used to be a charismatic chorus which began Lord Prepare Me To Be A Sanctuary, to which my wife and kids and I used to sing Samuel Wilberforce's If I Were A Cassowary.
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Pigwidgeon
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I can't sing Glorious Things Of Thee Are Spoken without substituting Tony Hancock's Coughs And Sneezes Spread Diseases.
I find myself singing "Deutschland, Deutschland über alles."
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The Scrumpmeister
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Originally posted by dj_ordinaire:
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Originally posted by Gracious rebel:
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Originally posted by L'organist:
The first tune (Michael Baughen, I think?) isn't a great one - it can be confused with something you'd expect to come from a fairground organ.
What a brilliant description! However I must say that tune gets more interesting when you get to the chorus bit: - "Yours the glory and the crown...... the high.... re...-nown...., the eter....nal..... name"
Although not to my usual taste I rather like both the hymn and the tune - in fact, I had no idea it was ever sung to anything else!
I've just had to look up the original tune on YouTube. It isn't for me, personally.
Here is Guiting Power, which is the only tune I've heard used for it until now. It pretty.
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venbede
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Ditto. I like the tune and I've never heard any other. St Paul's Cathedral seemed to do it every time I was there. That was in Michael Baughan's time.
Thanks to scrump's link I now know what we are talking about. St Paul's only used Guiting Power when Baughan was a canon. That is the only tune I'ever heard.
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Kaplan Corday
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Originally posted by Pigwidgeon:
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Originally posted by Kaplan Corday:
I can't sing Glorious Things Of Thee Are Spoken without substituting Tony Hancock's Coughs And Sneezes Spread Diseases.
I find myself singing "Deutschland, Deutschland über alles."
With an outstretched arm and a finger under your nose?
My daughter, when young, used to delight in combining a popular take-off of On Top Of Old Smokey, with a Christian chorus which was sung to the same tune:
"I'm glad I'm a Christian / All covered with cheese".
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Hilda of Whitby
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Then there is the doxology (Praise God from whom all blessings flow), sung to the tune of "Hernando's Hideaway":
"Praise God/from whom/all blessings flow
Praise Him/all crea-/tures here below
Praise Him/above/ye heavenly host
Praise Fa-/ther Son and/ Holy Ghost"
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Enoch
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Yes, there are four lines of eight syllables. The fourth line is a bit of a struggle but Long Metre can just about be squeezed into it.
The House of the Rising Sun by the way is Common Metre. So a lot of hymns will fit it. Both Amazing Grace and While shepherds watched do.
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Sandemaniac
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At which point did the Ship turn into I'm Sorry I haven't a Clue?
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