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For a number of reasons, November is my least favourite month of the whole year, so I was gratified to realise that next Sunday is the first in Advent so the month that usually seems to drag by is actually nearly over and Christmas is on the horizon. [Smile]

Nen - making a list and checking it twice.

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We had a slightly different sort of service at the Cathedral today; it was a combination of all three usual services (8:00 a.m. said communion, 10:00 choral communion and 11:45 "worship" service with a band), so we had the choir doing bits, the band doing bits and also a sort of "commissioning" thing where new members of staff (including D.) and all the various voluntary groups (including the choir and the band) were asked to pledge to do what we're all supposed to do.

I suppose it was all right (the band stuff really isn't my thing, but at least they're not too loud), but for some reason the sermon went on for a heck of a time (I didn't time it, but it was unnecessarily prolonged), and the intercessions seemed to be just praying again for all the staff and volunteers who had just been prayed for ... [Ultra confused]

And because it was a BAS* service, we didn't get the proper Collect for the Sunday next before Advent, which is my favourite:
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Stir up, we beseech thee, O Lord, the wills of thy faithful people; that they, plenteously bringing forth the fruit of good works, may of thee be plenteously rewarded; through Jesus Christ our Lord. Amen
Oh well, I don't suppose it happens all that often, and we've got the Advent Procession to look forward to next Sunday - my favourite service of the whole year.

* Book of Alternative Services, aka "Barely Anglican Services" or "Bloody Awful Service Book"
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quote:
posted by piglet:
And because it was a BAS* service, we didn't get the proper Collect for the Sunday next before Advent, which is my favourite:
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Stir up, we beseech thee, O Lord, the wills of thy faithful people; that they, plenteously bringing forth the fruit of good works, may of thee be plenteously rewarded; through Jesus Christ our Lord. Amen


Ah, but in this neck of the woods, the Sunday next before Advent is the Feast of Christ the King. So no stir-up Sunday here....

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Indeed. And the ACC observes Christ the King (or the Reign of CHrist) on the SUnday before Advent even if you use the 1959 BCP. Piglet's experience may be different,bbut only if she's been attending a church which is ignoring the rules (of which there are a few, I have no doubt). The calendar and the order of service are totally unrelated here. Or at least they're supposed to be...except that clergy always know better.

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We observed Christ the King with great smoke and ceremony, along with a good sermon. Lots of white and gold on frontals, paraments, vestments etc.

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Lovely quiet couple of days in Mysore and then meeting friends in Kannur [Cannanore] on the way back but the alarm going off at 04:00 this morning was not particularly welcome! Worth it as the early train got me in home before lunch [just] then I was able to sleep all afternoon.

Sabarimala season is now underway so tomorrow I have to attend at least one puja of someone setting off tomorrow night - when he comes back I can give him the box of sweets I bought as a gift as it was his birthday last week. Before folks go they have a 41 day period of abstinence where they can only eat certain foods and nothing prepared outside the home - they also have no fish, no meat, no eggs, no tobacco, no alcohol, no shaving/haircutting and no sex!

It's a tough six weeks.

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Torrential rain and high winds - and I've got to go out in it again later. Oh, and did I mention it's freezing cold?

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Sounds a bit like the weather in my neck of the woods, St G. Very fed up that all the hard work I did yesterday sweeping leaves is all to be done again.

Are you at the YM or Pontlottyn end of the valley? I have hideous childhood memories of getting drenched by horizontal rain while waiting for my grandmother outside a shop in Blackwood [Ultra confused]

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A real dismal November day with the gale bashing rain against the windows for hours. It didn't stop one of the neighbours putting up one of the biggest satellite dishes I've ever seen. It's about three times the size of all the others but I suppose he must think it worth it.

I just hope the wall doesn't collapse in the middle of the night.

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quote:
Originally posted by L'organist:


Are you at the YM or Pontlottyn end of the valley? I have hideous childhood memories of getting drenched by horizontal rain while waiting for my grandmother outside a shop in Blackwood [Ultra confused]

About half way between!

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I can't remember the exact quote, but I used to know a little poem that went somewhat thusish:
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A wearisome month is November
A month of misery and mayhem
It's night for most of the afternoon,
And p.m. for most of the a.m.

And on that note - we've had some sn*w. [Waterworks]

Not enough to make a huge difference; the roofs across the road were white when I woke up this morning, but by lunchtime that had gone. It was still coming down in wee squitty flakes for a good bit of the day, but so far they're not lying, and it's still not hugely cold (which is just as well, as the coat I ordered from the interweb a couple of weeks ago* still hasn't arrived).

* estimated delivery time: 3 - 6 working days. Even allowing for the bank holiday in the middle, it's been two weeks. Stuff that for a lark. [Mad]

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Last night I was presented with an Advent calendar… with teabags in [Big Grin]

It has a different kind of tea for every day in December. I am very excited about this at several levels.

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That sounds wonderful - hope you enjoy.

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And there's reports of Christmas decorations up in at least two houses in our town. [Eek!]

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quote:
Originally posted by la vie en rouge:
Last night I was presented with an Advent calendar… with teabags in [Big Grin]

It has a different kind of tea for every day in December. I am very excited about this at several levels.

This sounds brilliant. Let us know what wonderful exotics you get.
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Our next door neighbour's house used to be a Blackpool illuminations rival at Christmas time. They moved away recently and a Muslim family moved in - yay! No more 'sad' looking house!!

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quote:
Originally posted by Ariel:
quote:
Originally posted by la vie en rouge:
Last night I was presented with an Advent calendar… with teabags in [Big Grin]

It has a different kind of tea for every day in December. I am very excited about this at several levels.

This sounds brilliant. Let us know what wonderful exotics you get.
A friend was given a beautiful Advent calendar with suggestions for kind deeds.

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I do hope you enjoy your tea, La Vie. It seems to me that the trouble with that sort of thing is you're likely to get quite a few that you just won't like - we once bought a lovely wooden box with eight different kinds of tea-bags in it, but the tea really didn't live up to the expectations of the box.

The box did though - it has eight velour-lined compartments, and very quickly became my jewel box. [Smile]

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quote:
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... the coat I ordered from the interweb a couple of weeks ago still hasn't arrived ...

... and won't be arriving - they sent me an e-mail yesterday saying the order had been cancelled as they were out of stock. Well, if the ******* web-site had said they were out of stock, I wouldn't have been able to order it, would I? [Mad]

At the moment my life seems to be spent waiting for things, with a degree of hope, just to be dealt a heap of disappointment, which is seriously affecting my normally jovial and merry disposition.

Sorry - rant over. Advent is almost upon us, so normal service will be resumed shortly.

[Big Grin]

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The first set of domestic Christmas decorations I spotted in town went up in a house just around the corner from here on the evening after bonfire night. Quite appropriate; I think if I had to live with them in my house for two months (that's 16% of the year!) I'd be ready for bonfire too...

Today, we received our first Christmas card (only 3 days before the beginning of Advent and a month before Christmas.) It's from the parish church. [Waterworks]

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We received our first present in the post yesterday - a couple of CDs from a friend in Ireland, who's always well ahead of himself (and was probably Stirring Up last Sunday too). [Big Grin]

Once Advent starts, I'm not too bah-humbug about decorations, even domestic ones, as TBH I love seeing how people decorate their houses (and, quite often, gardens).

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I was in town yesterday and walking from one end to the other I spotted a lonely looking shop so felt I had to go in and keep the poor, bored staff company - and whilst I was there I was horrified to discover that their prices have gone up [for the first time in years] but I still allowed myself to indulge in a Vanilla, Butterscotch and Pista[chio] Ice Cream Sundae, even if it did cost nearly a pound!

It was definitely worth it.

Nom, nom.

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I am dodging the church bazaar. I may, half-heartedly, go and help clear up at the end, but there is such a set in stone routine about How Things Are Done, which I've clearly not learned in the 4 years I've been at this church, I tend not to get involved in anything of this nature. (Then they wonder why people don't volunteer for these things easily.... )

I am still pondering why the Royal Mail has such ridiculous opening hours at the local sorting offices. 7.00 a.m - 12.30 p.m. Monday to Saturday. I could go easily on the way home from work, without it being too much out of my way, but it's a two bus journey or an hour's walk (uphill) from home.

Anyway,in the midst of all of this I have declared today a Long Walk day. Lunch is packed, parcel will be collected, (it's only small, but needs a signature) and many steps added to the total. Abject apologies to my companions on the November Fitness Thread, today will be another total over-achieve day.I have another challenge running alongside this one, and I'm trying to get ahead on that so I can give myself a bit of a break from so much walking over the holidays.

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quote:
Originally posted by Welease Woderwick:
I was in town yesterday and walking from one end to the other I spotted a lonely looking shop so felt I had to go in and keep the poor, bored staff company - and whilst I was there I was horrified to discover that their prices have gone up [for the first time in years] but I still allowed myself to indulge in a Vanilla, Butterscotch and Pista[chio] Ice Cream Sundae, even if it did cost nearly a pound!

It was definitely worth it.

Nom, nom.

What a wonderful, altruistic thing to do, Wodders. Not only to keep them company, but of course once there you had to support their business as well.
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Our Church Christmas Fair was a great success. They do a clever thing. The Church puts on pulled pork rolls with stuffing and sauces to make money for Church funds. The organisations which use the Church during the week are invited to orgainise and run a stall, I do one for Guide Dogs. The Rangers all dress as elves and help with Santa's grotto. So, not much work for church folk but a busy, buzzing Christmas Fair.

Mollie came too, she was a little angel greeting all her admirers for half of the time and sleeping on her blanket for the other half 💕💕

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Well, I've just rung for a wedding where the bride was 40 minutes late. I'm surprised she still had choir, organist, bells and indeed groom (I think the vicar felt duty bound to stay...)

And it was nothing to do with transport as she lives within sight of the church and I'm told she was walking.

I nearly put this in Hell - perhaps I should have done.

Grrrrr!

(Rather fed up) M.

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quote:
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Well, I've just rung for a wedding where the bride was 40 minutes late. I'm surprised she still had choir, organist, bells and indeed groom (I think the vicar felt duty bound to stay...)

And it was nothing to do with transport as she lives within sight of the church and I'm told she was walking.

I nearly put this in Hell - perhaps I should have done.

Grrrrr!

(Rather fed up) M.

I read somewhere of a vicar who allowed ten minutes then for every ten minutes he would remove a hymn and a reading until there was just one left, then he substituted Psalm 119 for the last selection. With any luck that would ensure the photographer had lost interest and the wedding breakfast had gone cold.
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quote:
Originally posted by M.:
... I'm surprised she still had choir, organist, bells and indeed groom (I think the vicar felt duty bound to stay...)

If the groom had b*ggered off, there wouldn't have been much point in the vicar staying ... [Big Grin]

When D's playing for a wedding, the bride gets 10 minutes before "Why are we waiting" begins to filter in, very softly and subtly at first, getting less soft and subtle with each ensuing five minutes.

There was a very elaborate wedding at St. Magnus Cathedral when we were there - the bride had apparently gone to Paris to get her dress (having failed to find something in Aberdeen or London), and was arriving by horse and carriage. The choir was out in full (the bride worked as secretary to one of the tenors), there was a guard of honour of Life-boys or Cubs or whatever they were and she came up the aisle to the theme from Chariots of Fire.

Sadly, she didn't do it in slow-motion. [Killing me]

I don't know what happened (maybe the horse broke down) but she was half an hour late, and by the time she arrived, we'd had the theme from every film that D. could possibly think of. [Devil]

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The lovely AC Anglican church next suburb over from me, is in much demand for weddings. I do not know if this is still the case, but there was five minutes grace allowed for lateness before the wedding was cancelled. They usually had several weddings on any one afternoon, and lateness early on, threw out the timetable for all.

Sometimes things happen which are out of control of wedding party. I was at a wedding where the bride's car was part of the sandwich of several cars. No fault of the driver there. The car was hit from behind and rammed into the back of the one in front, along with others down the line.

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I understand the average bride is 20 minutes late at our place! Given that we can have as many as three weddings in a day that is definitely not good and our vicar will ruthlessly cut hymns as necessary; also the address (but that might not be much of a disincentive!) [Killing me]

I am glad to report that both Miss S and the Lovely Girlfriend were spot on time at the church!

Mrs. S, congenitally inclined towards punctuality

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I did have a case of the bride arriving far too early, so I told them to go away and drive round the block.

I had forgotten that it was a football match day, with gridlock all around the centre of our town ... But she got back in the end.

I also have had weddings where the usher has had to go back home to collect the Orders of Service, or where a child bridesmaid has cut their hand on washing-up and had to be whisked off to A&E to be stitched up (at least they phoned up to let us know).

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We had an incident about a decade ago at our little country church. The bride had arrived, but no sign of the groom and his groomsmen. They eventually turned up 15-20 minutes late. They had been taking a shortcut via a gravel road, and had rolled the car on a bend. They were all wearing seatbelts so only shaken. Having exited the vehicle they pushed it back onto its wheels and kept coming. They were forgiven for their tardiness.
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quote:
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... several weddings on any one afternoon, and lateness early on, threw out the timetable for all ...

When D. was a student in Bristol, he played at a local church that was very popular for weddings, and they might have had anything up to five or six on a Saturday.

England still had "canonical hours" in those days, which meant one couldn't legally be married after (I think) five or six in the evening, so if there was a backlog because of latecomers, the vicar would be getting very antsy by the last one, in case it couldn't be fitted in before the cut-off time.

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I heard of a wedding where, surprise, surprise, the bride was late, then later... this being England, the organist began tossing in phrases from'Match of the Day' until he managed the whole of it full blast on what seemed like all stops.

There is another, possibly apocryphal story, of the Oxford student organist who as fired for playing 'The Teddy Bears' Picnic' during Communion.

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England still had "canonical hours" in those days, which meant one couldn't legally be married after (I think) five or six in the evening, so if there was a backlog because of latecomers, the vicar would be getting very antsy by the last one, in case it couldn't be fitted in before the cut-off time. [/QB][/QUOTE]

England still has these - you cannot marry in a church before 8am, or after 6pm (which in practice means the ceremony needs to have started by 5pm to fit everything in).
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St Everild - you must have some very wordy weddings in your part of the world. The basic formalities of a marriage can be completed in ten minutes or less. Granted, that doesn't allow for pomp and circumstance, readings, hymns or sermons.

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Advent Procession done and dusted, and it went really rather well. D. was v. pleased with it, and so were the Dean and the choir - they seemed very chuffed that D. had placed his confidence in them!

I thoroughly enjoyed myself (especially in D's outrageous descant to Lo, he comes with clouds descending); my only moment of nervousness was when I heard someone in the choir whisper as we were about to process in that the RFO* was in the congregation (always a slightly nerve-racking prospect). [Paranoid]

* Revered Former Organist - every church has one, but most of them have the grace to be either absent or dead ... [Big Grin]

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quote:
Originally posted by Piglet:
* Revered Former Organist - every church has one, but most of them have the grace to be either absent or dead ... [Big Grin]

Our beloved RFO retired amicably. He's been back a few times for funerals when our current organist hasn't been available -- as well as for our current organist's wedding, which for some reason she didn't want to play herself! He's also been in the congregations for a few funerals. He did make a point when he retired that he would not be a regular member of the congregation.

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I have not yet, in any capacity (guest, chorister, organist, celebrant), attended a wedding at which the bride has entered to the Bridal March from The Sound of Music, much as I've recommended it to absolutely every bride I've ever encountered.

One day, it will happen and I'll [Waterworks]

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Teekeey Misha
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P.S. I went to a meeting on Friday in an office where the receptionist apologised for "being a bit sniffly".

Naturally, I have spent the whole weekend in bed with a raging temperature, no discernably functioning nasal passages, coughing my lungs up like my grandpa who smoked 80 a day. Curses on people who go to work when they're ill!

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When I ran an old folk's home or two in the 1980s I made a point of telling staff that if they were ill then I'd really rather they stayed away - passing bugs to frail 80+ year olds is not a good idea! Sharing bugs round the staff room just brings on more sharing of bugs with frail 80+ year olds.

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In France one often has two wedding ceremonies; one civil one at the Town Hall (the only one the French state recognises), and then another religious one of your choice afterwards, if you so desire.

If you get married in a busy Town Hall on a Saturday, woe betide anyone who turns up late. They give everyone a twenty minute slot, and if you miss it, too bad for you. The Mayor won’t wait, because there are likely half a dozen other couples waiting for the rest of the day. It is a bit of a conveyor belt.

Brides are usually early.

In other news, we went to the independent winemakers’ fair on Saturday. Tried some nasty Côtes du Rhône which we didn’t buy, and some nice Gaillac which we did. Also a bottle of Jura which we had never tried before (it’s quite surprising: a white wine that smells very strongly of walnuts).

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You are sure that it was wine and not whisky??? [Devil]

To be serious: is it a sort of Alsatian wine, perhaps like Gewurztraminer (although that isn't at all nutty) or, my favourite, Sylvaner?

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Did somebody mention whisky? YES PLEASE!
(Purely for medicinal purposes, of course!) [Two face]

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The dream of my heart for Advent is one of those whisky Advent calendars. Simply to make the season bright, you know.

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la vie en rouge
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The Jura isn’t far from Alsace. It’s a mountainous region in the East of France.

It isn’t known for its wine production, which is why we’d never tried it before. Apparently the speciality is a fortified “yellow” wine, which really smells very strongly of walnuts. I didn’t really like it – too much of a good thing AFAIC.

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I didn't know you could buy whisky advent calendars. I made one once for Macarius, with miniatures. Took some doing but it was quite fun.

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quote:
Originally posted by la vie en rouge:
In other news, we went to the independent winemakers’ fair on Saturday. Tried some nasty Côtes du Rhône which we didn’t buy, and some nice Gaillac which we did. Also a bottle of Jura which we had never tried before (it’s quite surprising: a white wine that smells very strongly of walnuts).

Was that the vin jaune* of Jura? Heard of it but we've never come across it.

*Yellow wine if I need to translate it

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There have been several posts on Facebook about advent calendars where the door for each day reveals a miniature of GIN ... [Big Grin]

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quote:
Originally posted by Teekeey Misha:
P.S. I went to a meeting on Friday in an office where the receptionist apologised for "being a bit sniffly".

Naturally, I have spent the whole weekend in bed with a raging temperature, no discernably functioning nasal passages, coughing my lungs up like my grandpa who smoked 80 a day. Curses on people who go to work when they're ill!

Probably not relevant in the uK, but in North Aerica it would be common for the day(s) off to be without pay or other compensation. That can be a very heavy price to pay, especially if you are the sole supporter of a famiiy.

Of course they ought to stay home, but if that means no food on the table for the next week for your children, I'm not sure that the choice is an easy one.

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