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Moo
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I believe we have started rainy season with a bang. Since Saturday I've had 9.15 inches of rain at my house. That doesn't even include the rain from this morning!!! Lots of lightening and thunder today!
I heard on the weather about a hurricane crossing Florida. How near you was that?
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Originally posted by jedijudy:
... I think we can give the British thread a run for its money talking about weather. ![[Biased]](wink.gif)
The thing is, when you get weather down your way, you get such a lot of it ...
As I said before, don't be sending it our way! ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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jedijudy
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Moo, it was only a tropical storm (Colin), but we were on the wet and windy side of it. As I understand it, nobody was hurt or killed by the storm!
Colin made landfall in the Big Bend area somewhere near Appalachicola. There was a huge plume of torrential rain trailing it to the south and west, so the Gulf coast got quite a soaking.
Piglet, I'm shocked, shocked I tell you. You don't want ten+ inches of rain in six days?
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Pigwidgeon
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Rain was predicted here in the Phoenix area today. Sure enough, around 5:00 p.m. I heard a strange sound. About six drops fell, which quickly evaporated from the hot sidewalk and driveway. Other than scattered showers one day in April, this is the first rain we've had since January -- which was also dryer than usual. Those of you with flooding are invited to send some of your excess our way.
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jedijudy
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Pigwidgeon, I believe the cow I saw standing in a pasture by the side of the road would appreciate that. The water was up to her belly. ![[Frown]](frown.gif)
When the sun finally came out, and those lovely sunbeams hit the soggy land, we received the blessing ![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif) of very high humidity. The air is so thick, I can hardly breathe when I go outside.
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Amanda B. Reckondwythe
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Originally posted by Pigwidgeon:
Rain was predicted here in the Phoenix area today. . . . About six drops fell.
Maybe over your way. Here in the West Valley we got nothing, although it did cloud over around suppertime. I hear that north of us they had much more.
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Pigwidgeon
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Originally posted by Amanda B. Reckondwythe:
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Originally posted by Pigwidgeon:
Rain was predicted here in the Phoenix area today. . . . About six drops fell.
Maybe over your way. Here in the West Valley we got nothing, although it did cloud over around suppertime. I hear that north of us they had much more.
If you blinked you would have missed it. I only noticed because I was sitting next to a window. It was such a slight rain, however, that I'm sure most of the Valley had nothing.
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Piglet
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Originally posted by jedijudy:
... Piglet, I'm shocked, shocked I tell you. You don't want ten+ inches of rain in six days?
No I jolly well don't - I want us to be able to get the outside of Château Piglet painted so that we can get it on the market.
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jedijudy
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Wasn't that Strawberry Moon magnificent? I'm dog sitting for a friend, and the moonshine woke me about 1:30 am, so I went onto the back porch to see the moon reflecting on the lake out back, and enjoying the brightness of the landscape. The dogs came with me and were probably wondering what was wrong with Aunt jedijudy. She should be sleeping, shouldn't she?
Oh, PS, just six months until wintertime! Winter is why I love living in Florida!
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Amanda B. Reckondwythe
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Originally posted by jedijudy:
Wasn't that Strawberry Moon magnificent?
Wouldn't you know it? It was cloudy in Phoenix last night and I couldn't see it! Drat!
We're having a cold snap today -- temperature is only going to reach 112 degrees, down from the 120 degrees over the weekend. It was so hot that planes couldn't land at our local airport -- tires would have blown on the hot runway pavement.
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Piglet
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120°?
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Pigwidgeon
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Originally posted by Amanda B. Reckondwythe:
We're having a cold snap today -- temperature is only going to reach 112 degrees, down from the 120 degrees over the weekend. It was so hot that planes couldn't land at our local airport -- tires would have blown on the hot runway pavement.
I remember when Phoenix hit 122 in, I believe, 1990. The airport was closed because they didn't know how those temperatures would affect take-offs and landings. They also didn't want the baggage handlers working in that heat.
I'm in England currently, so please try cooling things off before I land next Monday!
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John Holding
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Originally posted by Piglet:
120°?
Fahrenheit, I hope!
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Piglet
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120° is scary even in Fahrenheit.
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jedijudy
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Indeed it is! I can only remember one time hitting 100 degrees here.
It looks like we'll be returning to our regular programming tomorrow...steamy mornings and rain in the afternoons. At least the rain cools things down. (I do love a good rain storm!!)
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John Holding
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Originally posted by Piglet:
120° is scary even in Fahrenheit.
Agreed. But 120 Celsius...
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Pigwidgeon
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Originally posted by Piglet:
120° is scary even in Fahrenheit.
They're reporting a number of heat-related deaths -- it is indeed scary.
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Moo
Ship's tough old bird
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The weather column in my local paper says that as long as the situation in the southwest continues, we will not have a prolonged heat wave. We will alternate between short spells of heat and short spells of cooler weather.
You southwesterners have my sympathy.
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Piglet
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Originally posted by jedijudy:
... I can only remember one time hitting 100 degrees here ...
Now that surprises me; I'd have thought that your part of the world would get at least a couple of days of 100° each summer.
There was quite a stir in the south of England a few years back when the mercury hit 100° for the first time ever (it was actually recorded in the town where D's sister lives).
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Amanda B. Reckondwythe
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Originally posted by Moo:
You southwesterners have my sympathy.
Thanks. It's what we get every summer, though. What's a bit unusual this year is that it happened so early in the season, before what locals call the "Monsoon Season" hit.
Around the first of July, wind patterns shift so that moisture is brought up from the Gulf of Mexico. It does cause sudden downpours and flash flooding, but it's hardly a Monsoon as that term is known in other parts of the world. There is a noticeable increase in relative humidity, though, so the 100 degree plus heat is no longer a "dry" heat.
Right now the relative humidity is still low, but the temperature is up there!
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Moo
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Originally posted by Piglet:
There was quite a stir in the south of England a few years back when the mercury hit 100° for the first time ever (it was actually recorded in the town where D's sister lives).
I read a book about England during the ten days leading up to the Normandy invasion in June, 1944. It said that on at least one of those days, the temperature at Dover hit 100°.
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Piglet
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It's quite possible that I didn't get my facts right; perhaps the one in 2003 was the first time it had topped 100° since the 1940s.
Either way, far too hot for me!
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jedijudy
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Originally posted by Piglet:
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Originally posted by jedijudy:
... I can only remember one time hitting 100 degrees here ...
Now that surprises me; I'd have thought that your part of the world would get at least a couple of days of 100° each summer.
It gets hot here, stays pretty much in the mid to upper 90's in the summer, but the combination of being near the water, and having afternoon rains most days keeps it from getting much hotter than that. The "feels like" temp can definitely be in the low 100's with high humidity and heat, though. We likes our Air Conditioning!!!
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Moo
Ship's tough old bird
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My daughter Jan and I attended the Eucharist at the church which has this fresco on the east wall.
I saw the fresco two years ago, when I went on a trip sponsored by my local Senior Center. I decided then that I wanted to be present at a Eucharist in that church. When Jan heard about it, she wanted to come too.
It was a deeply moving experience.
I used to keep the images of Christ on the Cross and Christus Victor separate in my mind, but now they are together.
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Lothlorien
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Thanks for the link, Moo. Christus Victor is perhaps my favourite way of thinking about the atonement, but it took many years to displace other ideas drummed into me by the theology of Sydney. Not going down that way on this thread at all.
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M.
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Macarius and I are going to a wedding today. - UK person here. I am told that the bridesmaids will be in front of the bride as she and her father walk down the aisle. This seems unusual to me, as I have only ever seen the bridesmaids follow the bride down the aisle.
I was told it's 'how it's done in America'.
So that's what I'm asking - is that how it's done?*
Thanks, all.
M.
*'cause I'm sure everyone in the whole country does the same thing!
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jedijudy
Organist of the Jedi Temple
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I've played the organ for hundreds of weddings, M., and every one of them that had bridesmaids was like that. The whole order is like this...
- Guests are seated
- Grandparents are seated
- Mother and father of the groom are seated
- Mother of the bride is seated
- Groom, best man, groomsmen and pastor appear
- Ushers roll out the runner (if there is one)
- Junior bridesmaids then bridesmaids process
- Maid (matron) of Honor processes
- Any flower girl(s) and/or ring bearers process
- Bride (and her father) process.
Going out is mostly the opposite of coming in, except the groom has the bride on his arm!
How's that?
[ETA that on rare occasions the groomsmen will process with the bridesmaids.]
[ 02. July 2016, 12:41: Message edited by: jedijudy ]
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Brenda Clough
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Yes. Think of how things process in at a service on Sunday. The processional cross kicks it off. Then you start in with the less fancy (choir members) and end up with the rector/preacher. At the end of the service the cross goes first, then the rector, and the choir members etc bring up the rear -- important goes out first..
So in weddings. Kick off with the organ, and then the flower boy or girl (if any), the junior bridesmaid (if any), any fuss the bride and groom have decreed like dogs or motorcycles, and then the bridesmaids one by one, followed by the bride on the arm of her father. The groom and his groomsmen were waiting up at the altar rail all this time, in their tuxedoes or whatever, looking uncomfortable. Dad hands the bride off to the groom and sits down in front pew beside mother of bride.The officiating priest steps up and begins 'Dearly Beloved" or whatever service they're using.
They recess similarly: bride and groom, arm in arm. The bridesmaids pair off with the groomsmen -- best man with maid of honor, etc. Sometimes the flower girl precedes the b&g for flower=scattering purposes, sometimes not. Once the entire wedding party is gone, the parents are next, and then everybody piles out. Photos in the narthex.
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Polly Plummer
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In the good old days, when I was a girl, the main job of the bridesmaid(s) was to carry the bride's train - which required the bride to be in front!
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Brenda Clough
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Sometimes you get littles to do that-- think Princess Diana. Anyway there's tons of latitude.
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There is. At mine we did it Vietnamese style (well, old style) and I came in on my bridegroom's arm, followed by the rest of the party more or less coupled up, but loosely, no fancy marching or stepping. Pastor was already in place, and the little ones had done the candlelighting long before and were already in their seats.
To be sure, we were trying to avoid a family fight between the two fathers of the bride. But it was also that I felt deeply uneasy by the whole "spotlight on the bride" thingy, as if it had nothing much to do with my husband, and all eyes should be on me... ![[Hot and Hormonal]](icon_redface.gif)
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Piglet
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I remember being quite surprised at the "bridesmaids and flower-girls first" routine here in Canada; they even have their own processional music (usually Pachelbel's Canon).
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M.
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Ah, that's interesting, thank you. Here, the groom and best man are usually in the church being nervous as the guests arrive, brothers and other male friends are ushers and ask 'bride or groom' so they can seat you on the correct side of the church, the mother of the bride arrives last except for the bridal party, then the bride and her father, then the bridesmaids, a bit like ladies-in-waiting at the coronation.
But it's all convention, and up to what the couple want.
This bride walked down the aisle to 'Concerning Hobbits' from the Lord of the Rings film.
It was a bit different anyway, as the bride's father was the vicar. So he walked her down the aisle, and then disappeared into the vestry while the music was finishing and was helped into his robes by some of the groom's friends, and popped out again to conduct the service!
Anyway, it was lovely, in a lovely old country church with the reception in the next door farm's barn.
I got to wear a HAT, and was gratified that a lot of the women did, they seem to be becoming popular again. Macarius pointed out that it had absolutely zero functionality as a hat, as it would keep me neither warm nor dry, but who cares, I got to wear a HAT.
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Lothlorien
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I have seen both orders downunder here. At son's wedding a few weeks ago her bridesmaids and flower girls preceded her entry on the arm of her twelve year old son. The two junior bridesmaids were my son's daughters who loved the position and looked stunning. The younger had a strapless dress like the older bridesmaids, somewhat engineered to keep it up as she is 10. Her son was fine coming down the aisle, but bored stiff through the service.
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Brenda Clough
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And same-sex weddings take it to another level of creativity. No, there are so many family and personal variants that most people just do what they want. The person who does have real power is the vicar or celebrating priest (assuming you are doing it in a church or on church property). If he doesn't want nude pre-service dance, there won't be, and the ceremony had better be held in some other venue. That means it's incumbent upon the priest to hold the line against real nuttiness.
(Somewhere else on SoF is a thread about disasters at funerals. There could easily be a matching one for weddings, which are fraught with peril.)
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M.
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I agree that a lot is down to the vicar/registrar, Brenda Clough.
SSM hasn't been around very long, at least here, and I don't know what traditions are growing up/will grow up and how they'll differ and how be the same.
M.
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I've only been to one SSM and, as I recall, both brides were walked out by their father. The bridesmaids however neither preceded nor followed: they were occupied in keeping the floral archway (it was outdoors) from blowing away or toppling on the happy couple.
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At our son's wedding his father walked him down the aisle first because my son wanted him to. We had never seen that done before but the sky did not fall in. Once at the front of the church the music started and the rest of the bridal party entered.
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jedijudy
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quote:
Originally posted by Piglet:
I remember being quite surprised at the "bridesmaids and flower-girls first" routine here in Canada; they even have their own processional music (usually Pachelbel's Canon).
I always strongly suggest the Canon as the timing for the bridesmaids procession is totally different on the actual wedding day than it is at the rehearsal! One can keep the music going, or cut it short and no one is the wiser!
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Piglet
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Ah - now that rationale makes perfect sense! ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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By the way - Happy 4th!!
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jedijudy
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Thanks Wodders!
Happy Fourth, everyone! I'm going to a cookout. How about you?
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Happy Fourth! I'm going to a friends for dinner.
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There is a neighborhood parade in the afternoon, but other than that, just enjoying a day off. The parade is fun- a few bands, lots of kids on bikes, a few low-rider car clubs. And an assortment of local politicians, including, in years past, our state's Republican Senator. I only mention it because this part of Denver is as blue as they come, and he may get 20% of the vote here in four years. But he still shows up and smiles, which I really appreciate and respect.
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Piglet
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Happy Fourth from up north a bit!
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Moo
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Since this is a college town, the fireworks are very audible. Thank God that when I go to bed, I can take my hearing aids out.
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The house next door is occupied by students. After I had heard some fireworks, one of them came to my door and said if the noise bothered me, let them know and they would tone it down.
Most of the students here are very nice.
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The city limits run down our back fence, and our (therefore rural) neighbors put on quite a display for their family each year, with sky rockets, star bursts, etc. At least they had risked a firebreak through the pasture beforehand...
After a couple hours at Ground Zero they finally stopped around 11PM. Fortunately our visiting granddaughter slept through it.
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I have to calm a freaked out dog and the horses when our neighbors do their fireworks. At New Years, they shoot off guns.
I'd rather see sparklers or watch it on TV.
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