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Paul.
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The case for the British monarchy can be summed up in two words: "President Blair"
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Pomona
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But one thing which I think that you and I both agree on is that being a republican is not really consistent with being CofE, especially with being a CofE cleric.
That's very true and it's one reason - amongst others - why I'm ordained in another denomination...
And that's a very respectable position (not that you need me to say that): you know where you stand, and so does everyone else. You're not taking oaths and making declarations with reservations or with your fingers crossed, and kidding yourself that that makes you some kind of cool rebel, like a fifth-former slipping rude words into the school song on speech day. If there's a conversation to be had, the cards are on the table, and agreements and disagreements can be identified and worked with.
Of course, it helps if there's a suitable other denomination for you to be ordained in! My choice of church is either CoE or RCC, only one of which will ordain me since I am a woman. I don't see how being ordained in another denomination whose theology I don't agree with is more honest than being a republican member of the CoE.
I'm not trying to be a cool rebel, I'm trying to follow the vocation God has called me to without leaving my brain at the door.
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Pomona
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Just read this on Twitter:
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The case for the British monarchy can be summed up in two words: "President Blair"
Surely 'King Charles III' makes the case for the British republic? The point is that it's not about individual nice monarchs v individual nasty politicians, but the inherent unfairness of the monarchy. George W Bush having been twice President doesn't suddenly mean the US should have become a monarchy.
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Albertus
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The converse argument in favour of the monarchy is, as I think Palmerston said of the Garter, that 'there's no damn' merit in it'.
I think that the USA would have been a lot better off if it had remained a monarchy (that is, in personal union with the British crown rather than the Spanish or French). Then it might have developed its abundant good qualities to become been as happy and settled a country as say Canada or Australia, rather than the deeply messed up place that it is.
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Louise
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Oops, too much tangent! Please take the tangent about the royals/republicanism/royal supremacy per se to Purgatory and open a new thread there, if you wish to continue it. Please use this thread for beliefs about male headship and the episcopate.
Many thanks!
Louise
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