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Twilight
 Puddleglum's sister
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Yesterday I read her "50 most recent posts," and there, right up until two days before, was the most good natured, encouraging, kind person anyone would ever want to know. Something surely snapped and the tragedy is that none of the gifts of fate stopped her.
Then I did some internet browsing and found a Catholic prayer thread where someone who was friends with Mary, the woman who was shot in the face, asked for prayers for her. In another place a man who knew the young girl's family said she was suffering nightmares and extreme anxiety.
I think we should pray for them, too. I'm sure Jennifer would want us to.
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Gill H
 Shipmate
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Just playing on the radio is Sting's 'Fragile'.
Lyrics here
You can listen to the song here
If 'Fields of Gold' was Miss Molly's soundtrack, this song is now jlg's for me. How fragile we are, indeed. Lord have mercy.
-------------------- *sigh* We can’t all be Alan Cresswell.
- Lyda Rose
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kentishmaid
Shipmate
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What bloody awful news. So terribly sad. I, too, looked forward to her posts and will miss her on the Ship very much.
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Gill H
 Shipmate
# 68
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And now they're playing 'Fields of Gold' too, so I need even more tissues. (It's a programme about Sting, so I guess I should have been prepared...)
-------------------- *sigh* We can’t all be Alan Cresswell.
- Lyda Rose
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irish_lord99
Shipmate
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May God have mercy May her memory be eternal ![[Votive]](graemlins/votive.gif)
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Nenuphar
Shipmate
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jlg. May the Lord have mercy on your soul, and send grace and mercy to all those grieving. Rest in peace and rise in glory.
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Laura
General nuisance
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I'm away where there was almost no internet access and finally got on, to see this. I knew about some of her struggles, but clearly not enough. So sad. As someone who has struggled both with depression and alcohol abuse, I recognized her as a fellow on the road and, now, as a fallen warrior in one of the hardest fights a human can face.
Memory eternal. ![[Waterworks]](graemlins/bawling.gif)
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Pancho
Shipmate
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for jlg. for the victims.
Oh my Jesus, forgive us our sins, save us from the fires of hell and lead all souls to Heaven, especially those in most need of Thy mercy. Amen.
-------------------- “But to what shall I compare this generation? It is like children sitting in the market places and calling to their playmates, ‘We piped to you, and you did not dance; we wailed, and you did not mourn.’"
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ebeth
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-------------------- "To eat bread without hope is still, slowly to starve to death." --Pearl S. Buck
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Zeke
Ship's Inquirer
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Jen was my friend. She always seemed so calm and sensible, and I confided in her more than once. I am unable to write anything else, though I have tried. Rest in peace, Jen.
-------------------- No longer the Bishop of Durham ----------- If men are so wicked with religion, what would they be without it? --Benjamin Franklin
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Earwig
 Pincered Beastie
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May God wipe away all her tears. So sorry to hear about all this. Want to post more but words are so stupid.
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Yangtze
Shipmate
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Have been following this and the related threads on my phone where I'm not logged in, so it's only now I can post my thoughts and prayers.
Oddly, the day before this thread I had looked at the 'where are they / missing shipmates thread' and noticed that someone had noticed they hadn't seen jlg around. And realised that, whilst I rarely post and had never interacted directly with her, I too had missed her posting.
Rest in Peace Jennifer ![[Votive]](graemlins/votive.gif)
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Tubifex Maximus
Shipmate
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quote: Originally posted by Gill H: Just playing on the radio is Sting's 'Fragile'.
Lyrics here
You can listen to the song here
If 'Fields of Gold' was Miss Molly's soundtrack, this song is now jlg's for me. How fragile we are, indeed. Lord have mercy.
Funny enough, what's been going through my head is Depressed beyond tablets by Half man half biscuit Should anyone misunderstand and think that this is mockery, I will say that Nigel Blackwell, who wrote this song, knows what it feels like from the inside.
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uffda
Shipmate
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I've been following the various threads, but I didn't know Jen at all, enjoyed her posts, and simply want to offer prayer for her to rest in peace, and for the rest of us to appreciate the Ship for what it is and what it offers.
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Dormouse
 Glis glis Ship's rodent
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Eloise
Shipmate
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-------------------- Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast. - The Red Queen
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Louise
Shipmate
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Raptor Eye
Shipmate
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Please God accept our sadness and prayers for all involved ![[Votive]](graemlins/votive.gif)
-------------------- Be still, and know that I am God! Psalm 46.10
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TomOfTarsus
Shipmate
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May the love and grace of God heal the awful pain that feels so unhealable. Peace, jlg.
-------------------- By grace are ye saved through faith... not of yourselves; it is the gift of God; not of works, lest any man should boast. For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath ... ordained that we should walk in them.
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Duo Seraphim
Ubi caritas et amor
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jlg was surely one of the Great Ovines and made more of her part as Sheep 3 in the Nativity Play than you'd believe a sheep could.
I will remember Jennifer for her dry wit and good sense. I feel very sad that the Black Dog has claimed another good soul.
May she rest in peace and rise in glory!
comet has very kindly just let me know - which is one of the many reasons this place is special
-------------------- Embrace the serious whack. It's the Catholic thing to do. IngoB The Messiah, Peace be upon him, said to his Apostles: 'Verily, this world is merely a bridge, so cross over it, and do not make it your abode.' (Bihar al-anwar xiv, 319)
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QLib
 Bad Example
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quote: Originally posted by Twilight: Yesterday I read her "50 most recent posts," and there, right up until two days before, was the most good natured, encouraging, kind person anyone would ever want to know. Something surely snapped and the tragedy is that none of the gifts of fate stopped her.
Then I did some internet browsing ...
I found this, which I hope others find helpful - don't think I've seen any other links to it.
I can't trace the 50 latest posts - directory search isn't working for me - but I remember thinking she had changed in some way. I hoped it was because she was less unrestful in her new spiritual home. ![[Frown]](frown.gif)
-------------------- Tradition is the handing down of the flame, not the worship of the ashes Gustav Mahler.
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QLib
 Bad Example
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My apologies - Drifting Star linked to it upthread, but I missed it.
-------------------- Tradition is the handing down of the flame, not the worship of the ashes Gustav Mahler.
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moron
Shipmate
# 206
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Mostly I have words, and they fail me.
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Ags
 Knocked up
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-------------------- I think that we are most ourselves at our best, because that is what God intended us to be. The us we really like, the us that others love to be with. Moth
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Lady A
 Narnian Lady
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So sad - may she walk in healing and love. I always enjoyed her posts.
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Taliesin
Shipmate
# 14017
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I miss her very much. I posted a kid-question, and then remembered she won't be responding to it. I so valued her thoughts on child raising. She was so clear and honest and careful and wise.
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Lyda*Rose
 Ship's broken porthole
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May God give her rest and heal her soul.
And may God heal the bodies and spirits of those she harmed.
And may God heal the broken place in our hearts. ![[Votive]](graemlins/votive.gif)
-------------------- "Dear God, whose name I do not know - thank you for my life. I forgot how BIG... thank you. Thank you for my life." ~from Joe Vs the Volcano
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rolyn
Shipmate
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I didn't know jlg or anyone connected with this awful tragedy, but have taken part in some discussion in an endeavour to understand it.
I feel now like praying for all those affected. ![[Votive]](graemlins/votive.gif)
-------------------- Change is the only certainty of existence
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Malin
 Shipmate
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So deeply sad and tragic for all.
I've no words to pray so I just offer Jen and those injured to God, whose mercy and love are beyond my imagining.
-------------------- 'Is it a true bird or is it something that exists within a-' 'It's a thing that is,' said Granny sharply. 'Don't go spilling allegory all down your shirt.' Terry Pratchett
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harmony hope
Shipmate
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No words only prayers.
-------------------- 'God grant me the Serenity to accept the things I cannot change, Courage to change the things I can and Wisdom to know the difference.'
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Loquacious beachcomber
Shipmate
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Anyone wishing to explore the issues arising in dealing with unbearable pain by enrolling in a professional seminar is welcome to follow the link in my signature.
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Amazing Grace
 High Church Protestant
# 95
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quote: Originally posted by Twilight: Yesterday I read her "50 most recent posts," and there, right up until two days before, was the most good natured, encouraging, kind person anyone would ever want to know. Something surely snapped and the tragedy is that none of the gifts of fate stopped her.
I read the last posts and was struck by that as well.
quote: Then I did some internet browsing and found a Catholic prayer thread where someone who was friends with Mary, the woman who was shot in the face, asked for prayers for her.
I saw something similar via a google search on Free Republic (not a place I usually visit). They've certainly got my prayers, as do Jen's children and friends.
-------------------- WTFWED? "Remember to always be yourself, unless you suck" - the Gator Memory Eternal! Sheep 3, Phil the Wise Guy, and Jesus' Evil Twin in the SoF Nativity Play
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Full Circle
Shipmate
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Nunzia
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Mili
 Shipmate
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After time to absorb it all I finally feel ready to post in All Saints to. But mostly I wish time could be turned back and this tragedy prevented.
I pray that JLG is at peace now and that her loved ones have the strength to get through this and do not fall into depression themselves. I also pray for the physical, mental and emotional recovery of the victims.
I pray that all JLG's friends here on the ship can still appreciate the good times they had with JLG online and in real life, and appreciate the help and support she gave them, even though her final actions have been so shocking and hurtful.
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Jengie jon
 Semper Reformanda
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Picked this up a few days ago, but this is the first time I have had internet access without little girls reading over my shoulder. So was obviously not spending time with this thread.
Hope that she may find peace and those affected deeply by this as well.
Jengie
-------------------- "To violate a persons ability to distinguish fact from fantasy is the epistemological equivalent of rape." Noretta Koertge
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Beethoven
 Ship's deaf genius
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Praying that she may now be at peace.
Praying that all those suffering through this may know God's love and peace. ![[Votive]](graemlins/votive.gif)
-------------------- Who wants to be a rock anyway?
toujours gai!
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Erroneous Monk
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Craigmaddie
c/o The Pickwick Club
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I am so sorry.
Eternal rest grant unto her, O Lord, and let perpetual light shine upon her.
-------------------- Via Veritas Vita
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saysay
 Ship's Praying Mantis
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Such sadness.
I heard the news a while ago but didn't have the chance to post.
Years ago I asked Jen if I could adopt her, as in her humor, good sense (and, yes, sometimes sadness), she reminded me so much of my own mother. At the time, I was still struggling with an onslaught of deaths (stepfather-ish, mother, grandparents, and a few others in a short period) and trying to figure out how I was going to give my brother hippy earth-mother advice about raising his kids, as he seemed to need me to step into my mother's shoes in some ways. Jen graciously allowed me to adopt her, and although it's been a while since we had any communication outside of the boards, I still looked forward to reading her posts.
I'll miss her. A lot.
Everywhere I go is the song I've been listening to.
for all affected by this tragedy.
-------------------- "It's been a long day without you, my friend I'll tell you all about it when I see you again" "'Oh sweet baby purple Jesus' - that's a direct quote from a 9 year old - shoutout to purple Jesus."
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Sioni Sais
Shipmate
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All I can do is offer a prayer for jlg and her family and friends, thinking especially of the Shipmates who knew her.
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Otter
Shipmate
# 12020
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As another snarky engineer (although a lot quieter than Rook!) I'll miss her.
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orfeo
 Ship's Musical Counterpoint
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Just found about this after a couple of weeks off-ship. Rather stunned. I certainly remember seeing her postings around.
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