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Ship's ferret
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Just back from the holiday break and stunned to see this.
Words don't express my thoughts.

Life is just a bowl of cherries!

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Johnny S
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Another one just back from hols and saddened to hear the news. [Votive]
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I find myself able to let go a little more easily that which I no longer have. Whatever that means.

And so, here is a bittersweet PM conversation I had with jlg back in 2009, a while after she had formally stepped down as a Host.


It's probably about time to free you from the temptations of the Hosts board. Would you like any modifications to your title to reflect your new status (or, whatever)?


Yes, it is time to go. You're on the west coast, so if you can do it late evening or early morning tomorrow (your time) I will be out of the way and will wake up knowing that my morning ritual of reading the Hosts board will be a thing of the past. It will be good for me, but I'll still miss all of you.

No need to change my title or avatar. They refer to my (still active) consternation that I find myself so enthralled by the Ship, not to mention the whole thing of Christianity. Nothing to do with having become a host except that I was offered a free custom avatar and title; and I thought a bit about who I was and why I was here and took advantage of it.

You seem to have the same fascination; why else do you continue to hang out here and put in time and care about how it all works?

Best wishes to you and the Nurse (who I assume is now actually nursing? ) and the new babe. It can be a rough time, that newly married with new babe thing. You suddenly find out who you really are.

For what it's worth, my Yenta radar (which is pretty accurate) sees the two of you as a solid and reasonably happy couple 'til death do you part.

Mazel Tov.


The deed is done, and I am sad. Thanks for all your sternly amused interactions. Best wishes with your newfound freedom.


"sternly amused interactions"


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no prophet's flag is set so...

Proceed to see sea
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Just back on the shop today. All I can say is 'oh my' and what little bits we know. Kind thoughts and prayers to all who are suffering through this.

Out of this nettle, danger, we pluck this flower, safety.

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Lakefront liberal
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Thank you, RooK.

Do not be daunted by the enormity of the world’s grief. Do justly, now. Love mercy, now. Walk humbly, now. You are not obligated to complete the work, but neither are you free to abandon it.

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I don't post much but thought of jlg as a neighbor since we were probably less the 50 miles from each other. I can't imagine the pain she must have been in to take such drastic actions and I pray she is at peace now.

I’m on Aslan’s side even if there isn’t an Aslan to lead it.
I’m going to live as like a Narnian as I can even if there isn’t any Narnia.

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Ship's barmaid
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Haven't been able to reply to this till today. This is desperately sad and shocking news. Since joining the Ship I admired jlg as the very best example of a host and poster in her own right; and made her a kind of mentor - unbeknown to her - when I took up hosting myself. She was the host I most wanted to be like, and the one whose advice I most valued. I can't believe it.

My heart goes out to jlg's family and friends.

Irish dogs needing homes! http://www.dogactionwelfaregroup.ie/ Greyhounds and Lurchers are shipped over to England for rehoming too!

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Old Hundredth
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I haven't been on board for a while and have only just seen this news which has shocked and saddened me greatly.


If I'm not in the Chapel, I'll be in the bar (Reno Sweeney, 'Anything Goes')

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The Silent Acolyte

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jlg's was a rare voice of wry realism. I'll miss her terribly.

May God grant her continual growth in his love and service until we all become partakers of his heavenly kingdom.

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I haven't known what to say. When we first got the news of Jen's death on the admins board, I was the one who went looking for the bleak comfort of an obituary and found the news reports instead. I kind of wish I hadn't, though I know sooner or later someone else would have done the same thing.

I met Jen in person when I was visiting family in Boston in the fall of 2004; she took the train down from New Hampshire and we spent the day together. We wandered around the North End of Boston, had lunch in a great little Italian hole in the wall, and guffawed over electric votive lights in some church. It was like getting together with an old friend. I've been kicking myself for not making the effort to see her the last time I was in Boston. I've had weeks to get used to the idea that I missed my last chance to see her, but it still seems like a very stupid bad joke.

[Votive] jlg -- rest in peace.

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Kelly Alves

Bunny with an axe
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Ruth. [Waterworks]

I have been struggling with my feelings about this-- every time I read some new thing someone posts about some friendly exchange or some expression of support, I just cry. And when I read the Nativity Play and all the shenanigans the Sheep and I got up to, I cry as well. Because-- stuff happened, and I went through a bad patch, and Jen made it pretty clear to me that she didn't think I handled it well. And then all the friendly stuff just-- stopped.

And boy, did I feel it.

I went through--oh, a couple years of working on it-- a PM here, a friendly question on the boards there, little gambits of friendship, and it was like hitting a wall of ice. I just couldn't be forgiven. But I kept trying, to the point that I worried trying itself was an annoyance. It was literally something I had to consign to prayer-- the prayer went, "Lord, I'll forget everything, just please let me have my friends back."

Then, finally-- maybe a year ago-- I wrote something about my sister's dog, and she responded. Then I wrote something about some silly crow incident, and she responded with a cheery remark.

And what I should have done, right that minute, was write something like "Hey Jen, I've been worried I've been on your shit list for a while, and it's nice to chat with you again.I missed you" but I couldn't. I kept waiting to figure out what the right words would be.

That's all. No advice needed, I know what I need to do-- let go and let God. But it easier to let go if you know you're not alone.

I cannot expect people to believe “
Jesus loves me, this I know” of they don’t believe “Kelly loves me, this I know.”
Kelly Alves, somewhere around 2003.

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Loquacious beachcomber
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I can't help you feel any better about this, Kelly; I can tell you that, as a minister who has moved away from a church where I was close to a great many people, I have some empathy for what you are saying.
There is often a measure of strain in discerning that it is time to seek a new call; when it happens, that strain intensifies, as not a few folks let you know that they feel abandoned.
Yet, as clergy, part of the task is that we are expected to cut ties and set boundaries so that the church can move on, into a time of interim, and then new ministry.
So we make that effort.
But then a young woman, who was a teenager in confirmation class and a cutup at her sister's wedding, dies suddenly and tragically, and her family sits through a funeral conducted by fill-in clergy they have never met; that nice, classy old gentleman who always enjoyed a visit passes away; a family with whom you spent a great deal of time during a bereavement asks if they can come to your new church as a family to mark the one-year anniversary of the event.
And you (or at least I) wonder, could I have done things somehow differently, somehow better, somehow said or done something that would have made a greater difference?
And there is no answer.

As a teacher, Kelly, you surely must have seen children move to the next level and occasionally run into difficulties, and then wish that you could reach out and change things.
You can't, though, and you realize that.
Peace by with you, Kelly; treasure what was good, remember, and give a measure of thanks through the tears.
That is about all any of us can ever do when people move on, regardless of how or why or how much it hurts.
As far as I know.

[ 16. January 2012, 12:35: Message edited by: Silver Faux ]

TODAY'S SPECIAL - AND SO ARE YOU (Sign on beachfront fish & chips shop)

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shocked and sad.
[Votive] jlg and all struggling to make sense or come to terms

"Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines, sail away from the safe harbour. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." (Mark Twain)

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Having become a less frequent treader of this ship's boards I only just discover this.

Dreadfully sad, the whole thing.

Praying for a lasting peace for Jen and for full recovery for those hurt.



Maybe that's all a family really is; a group of people who miss the same imaginary place. - Garden State

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East Price Road
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[Votive] ...for all those affected.

"Fishes stop and ask me where I'm bound." (Incredible String Band)

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