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Thread: ken - R.I.P.
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Meerkat
Suricata suricatta
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I never knew Ken, but I always read his posts with interest and amusement... so I felt that I knew him, IYKWIM.
May he rest in peace in God's kingdom. Prayers for all his family and friends left behind!
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Erroneous Monk
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Only just seen this.
My heart and thoughts and prayers go out to you, Persephone Hazard.
I loved Ken.
Please could someone PM me details for the funeral service.
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Jen.
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Funeral details.
quote: Originally posted by Persephone Hazard: My father's funeral will be at 12pm on Friday June 13th, at St John's Church (addresses at the end). After the service, some will proceed to the burial at Brockley Cemetery, while others will stay at the church for tea and such. We'll all reconvene at the Rising Sun (dad's local of twenty-five years, down the hill from the church) for the kind of wake he would have wanted - lots of beer, lots of celebration, and lots of remembrance. Here are some other things you might want to know:
- My dad hated cut flowers; he called them "murdered plants". As such, in lieu of flowers please consider making a donation to St John's Church - an institution to which he was devoted for a quarter of a century.
- Everyone is welcome to come to the funeral service. If you only knew him online but would quite like to come, come. If you'd want to be there but would feel more comfortable accompanied by (for example) your partner who is someone my dad never met, bring them.
- Everyone is also welcome at the burial, but space will be a little limited - we will after all be at the graveside. As such, some of you may wish to stay behind and rejoin the family and close friends at the pub afterwards.
- Even if you can't take time off work for the funeral (or otherwise can't be there), we'd love you to consider coming to the wake in the pub that evening anyway. After all, it's a Friday night - it's what he would have wanted!
- If you'd like to visit him in the Chapel of Rest prior to the funeral, you're very welcome to - please ask me for details of how to do this and I will get them to you.
St John's can be found at: St John’s Church, St John’s Vale, SE8 4EA The Rising Sun is: 120 Loampit Hill, SE13 7SN
Despite the confusingly different addresses, the two are actually on the same road as each other - ten minutes walk in a straight line downhill!
Any questions, please just ask.
We can't attend in person, but will be there in spirit.
J
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Erroneous Monk
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Thank you
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Tina
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In the words of another Shippie's Facebook comment, 'Most wonderful invite to a funeral ... ever'
Thank you Persephone, busyknitter and all the family for sharing your grieving and your memories of Ken with us.
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The Scrumpmeister
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I seldom pass through here these days and managed to miss this. I am in disbelief.
Ken and I spent over a decade rubbing each other up the wrong way and butting heads. He was one of those people with whom I disagreed on much but wanted to agree with on so very much because of the respectfully forthright manner and firm conviction with which he expressed what he believed to be right, and good, and true. I hope that he knew of my respect for him.
May his memory be eternal.
O God of spirits and of all flesh, Who have trampled down death, overthrown the devil, and given life to your world; do now, O same Lord, give rest to the soul of your departed servant in a place of brightness, a place of refreshment, a place of repose; where all sickness, sighing, and sorrow have fled away. Pardon every transgression which he has committed, whether by word or deed or thought. For You are a good God Who loves mankind; because there is no man who lives yet does not sin, for You alone are without sin, your righteousness is an everlasting righteousness, and your word is truth.
For You are the Resurrection, the Life, and the Repose of your servant who has fallen asleep, O Christ our God, and to You we ascribe glory, together with your Father who is without origin, and your all-holy, good, and life-creating Spirit, now and ever and to the ages of ages. Amen.
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Auntie Doris
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Is someone going to MW Ken's funeral?
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Pomona
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I don't think I can make it to the funeral (I'm housesitting then and the journey's a bit of a trek, and don't want to leave the house empty for that long) but will raise a glass to Ken and light a candle for him.
Definitely would like to raise a glass to him at Greenbelt too.
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Deputy Verger
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Auntie Doris asked: quote: Is someone going to MW Ken's funeral?
I hope so, and I know Miss Amanda would like a report for the benefit of Shippies on the wrong side of London/the Pond/the Equator.
I'm willing to do it, but I don't want to step on toes if someone who knew him better is keen. I am also happy to collaborate (ie compare notes in the Rising Sun afterwards and share the draft).
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Twangist
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That's a great idea please do.
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Emma Louise
Storm in a teapot
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AJ (Mr Emma Louise) is hoping to go. We'd both go, but don't think bringing small people is a good idea, so he will represent us.
Still can't quite believe it.
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daisydaisy
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So sad - I shall miss his wit and wise view on things. I looked forward to reading his posts when I was following a thread.
Persephone Hazard, Busyknitter May your memories of the good times grow stronger.
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Smudgie
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I was hoping to go to the funeral but would have to take the whole day off work to do so, which isn't practical (especially with the implications for the job I do). So I will be there in spirit and supporting with prayers.
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Gracious rebel
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I have managed to arrange to be not working on Fri 13th, so plan to be there. Perhaps we should do a head count of how many of us are hoping to make it? [ 30. May 2014, 18:34: Message edited by: Gracious rebel ]
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Dinghy Sailor
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Ken, rest in peace and rise in glory. I'll look forward to some beer & theology when He makes all things new
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A Feminine Force
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Several days (years) late and coming up short. I logged back into the Ship today after an aeon and this is just heartbreaking.
Love and hugs to family and Shipmates missing and mourning him.
Ken, adieu. We never saw eye to eye but I still loved you. Happy trails.
LAFF
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Qoheleth.
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quote: Originally posted by Gracious rebel: I have managed to arrange to be not working on Fri 13th, so plan to be there. Perhaps we should do a head count of how many of us are hoping to make it?
Two.
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busyknitter
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quote: Originally posted by Persephone Hazard: quote: Originally posted by Emma Louise: AJ (Mr Emma Louise) is hoping to go. We'd both go, but don't think bringing small people is a good idea, so he will represent us.
Still can't quite believe it.
Obviously bringing children to things is complicated and stressful for a million reasons, but from our perspective they're very welcome.
Ditto from us.
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Persephone Hazard
Ship's Wench
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quote: Originally posted by busyknitter: quote: Originally posted by Persephone Hazard: quote: Originally posted by Emma Louise: AJ (Mr Emma Louise) is hoping to go. We'd both go, but don't think bringing small people is a good idea, so he will represent us.
Still can't quite believe it.
Obviously bringing children to things is complicated and stressful for a million reasons, but from our perspective they're very welcome.
Ditto from us.
I'm afraid I was already totally speaking for you there; otherwise I'd just have said 'me' ;-)
-------------------- A picture is worth a thousand words, but it's a lot easier to make up a thousand words than one decent picture. - ken.
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hatless
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I only just stumbled across this sad, sad news. I'm kicking myself for being too busy/away/disengaged, and half wondering why I didn't feel a disturbance in the force.
Deepest respect.
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Marvin the Martian
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quote: Originally posted by Gracious rebel: I have managed to arrange to be not working on Fri 13th, so plan to be there. Perhaps we should do a head count of how many of us are hoping to make it?
I'll be there.
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JoannaP
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quote: Originally posted by Gracious rebel: I have managed to arrange to be not working on Fri 13th, so plan to be there. Perhaps we should do a head count of how many of us are hoping to make it?
I am hoping to make it.
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Curiosity killed ...
Ship's Mug
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I am hoping to come to the funeral, then I have to go back to w*rk for a meeting but can return for the meet in the evening, if that's still happening by then.
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M.
Ship's Spare Part
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Like Curiosity Killed, I intend to be at the funeral but will then have to go back to work. Don't know about the evening.
M.
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Spike
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Tina & I will be there
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Jack the Lass
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Our tickets are bought, so I will be there with TME and the Elf Lass (who will almost certainly need feeding at some point during the service, but otherwise is pretty laid back so shouldn't be disruptive. We'll try and sit on the end of a pew so we can make a quick getaway to calm her down if she gets too moany). We are staying with my parents so heading to get the train back about 3.30, so won't be at the wake.
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angelica37
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just heard the news, Eternal rest Ken, though we never met his were always posts worth reading
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Yangtze
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I'll be there.
Jack the Lass, so pleased you are able to come. I knew you would want to but figured that it's really quite a distance.
Would anyone be up for meeting up beforehand? I seem to remember we did that for Gambit's funeral and I for one found it quite helpful to go into the church with people.
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JoannaP
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Yangtze, That does sound like a good plan.
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Emma Louise
Storm in a teapot
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Thanks Persephone, that's kind of you. I think it will be just AJ though.
AJ is interested in meeting up before with other ship people - I'll get him back on the ship to post.
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luvanddaisies
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Been away, just back, just seen this sad news - so sorry for your loss Persephone & busyknitter.
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aj
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*Dusts cobwebs off my SOF browser tab*
Yes - I'd be up for meeting beforehand.
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Marvin the Martian
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quote: Originally posted by Yangtze: Would anyone be up for meeting up beforehand? I seem to remember we did that for Gambit's funeral and I for one found it quite helpful to go into the church with people.
Due to the vagaries of early morning rail travel from the South West, I'm expected to arrive at St Johns station an hour before the service starts. Was planning to use the time to have some breakfast, but I'm happy to meet up with people as well.
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Spike
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Count us in too
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Hazey*Jane
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quote: Originally posted by Marvin the Martian: quote: Originally posted by Yangtze: Would anyone be up for meeting up beforehand? I seem to remember we did that for Gambit's funeral and I for one found it quite helpful to go into the church with people.
Due to the vagaries of early morning rail travel from the South West, I'm expected to arrive at St Johns station an hour before the service starts. Was planning to use the time to have some breakfast, but I'm happy to meet up with people as well.
Be aware that very few local trains stop at St Johns, but many stop at Lewisham which is not far, which may give you more options in your journey planning.
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Yangtze
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I was just about to PM Ken to ask him if there were any cafes near his church. Doh.
Also Marvin, what on earth are you doing coming from the south-west?
(Hah, autocorrect changed that to caves. He'd've liked that.) [ 04. June 2014, 23:02: Message edited by: Yangtze ]
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busyknitter
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I don't know what there is right by the church (Persephone will know better than me) but there will certainly be places by both Lewsisham and New Cross Gate stations, which are each about a mile walk from St. Johns, in opposite directions.
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Marvin the Martian
Interplanetary
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quote: Originally posted by Hazey*Jane: Be aware that very few local trains stop at St Johns, but many stop at Lewisham which is not far, which may give you more options in your journey planning.
My ticket is already bought, so it'll have to be St Johns.
quote: Originally posted by Yangtze: Also Marvin, what on earth are you doing coming from the south-west?
I'm on cricket tour in Devon next week.
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M.
Ship's Spare Part
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I should arrive at St John's at around 11.15.
M.
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Deputy Verger
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In case not noticed,there is a separate thread for bellringers for the funeral. We will be gathering from 11:00 to ring before the service. PM me or join the other thread if you can and will ring, please! It won't be fancy ringing at all. They are not fancy bells and we are simple folk.
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Ecclesiastical Flip-flop
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I have responded on the other thread for bellringers. I am contemplating going along, but I haven't made up my mind.
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Auntie Doris
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quote: Originally posted by Persephone Hazard: I'd really, really like it if someone MWed the service, by the way. I love that there's such a report of Gambit's funeral, and I've gone back to it often (including just now, which prompted me making this post!).
We need someone to MW it so we can share in the experience!
Auntie Doris x
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Deputy Verger
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As I said upthread, I am willing to do it, but I would like other people's input as well. I have lined up a volunteer to monitor the start, which I might miss as I shall be stuck up the bell tower until the last minute.
But yes, there will certainly be a report! If anyone else wants to take it on, I will step back and let you do so.
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Spike
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I'm sure we can put a decent report together between us
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Spike
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So when & where are we meeting?
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Deputy Verger
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At 11 o'clock or thereabouts in the bell tower, please Spike. The rest of them, I dunno.
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