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Thread: ken - R.I.P.
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Nicolemr
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So sorry to hear. RIP Ken. ![[Votive]](graemlins/votive.gif)
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Net Spinster
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my thoughts are with his family and friends
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Ye Olde Motherboarde
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Just sitting here thinking about KEN, only had a few PM's from him, but he was a class act and I'm so sad to hear of his passing, but now I know he is in his heavenly home.
My sympathies to his family and friends, and shipmates who had the pleasure to have met him.
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churchgeek
Have candles, will pray
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I'm so sorry to hear this. It pisses me off. My deepest condolences to ken's family. He will be missed beyond words.
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Curiosity killed ...
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I promised some more photos. This and this are from the Kew Meet that geroff mentioned upthread, with geroff, Rosa gallica and Curious Kitten with ken - which was 7 years ago, 28 May 2007. We went on to The Dove.
And this taken in the Mulberry Bush from February 2010 at 10pm, after Ender's Shadow had left. rosamundi, Yangtze and I were still there chatting and ken finally arrived, late, as usual. Then they all started posting on the Ship on their phones (I didn't have a smartphone, just a camera).
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mdijon
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I will toast the thought-provoking, the wit, the intellect, the humour and the warmth of ken this evening.
What a loss for us, and what a deep loss for his closer friends and family.
May he rest safely and in peace.
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Mili
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Sympathies and prayers to Persephone Hazard, Busy Knitter and the rest of Ken's family and friends. Also to the members of his church where I'm sure he will be truly missed. I'm sure us shippies will be sharing memories for years to come and making newbies wonder who this remarkable Ken was who everyone keeps referring to. He will be remembered by so many around the world who learnt so much from his wisdom and incredible knowledge, even though we never new him in 'real life'.
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chive
Ship's nude
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May he rest in peace, rise in glory and argue socialism with the angels.
My prayers are with Persephone Hazard, busyknitter and all his family. May God hold you in the palm of his hand.
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Nicodemia
WYSIWYG
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My thoughts and prayers for you all.
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Leprechaun
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This is really awful news. He will be much missed.
![[Tear]](graemlins/tear.gif)
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Jack the Lass
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I'm still so sad. What an amazing man, we are all the poorer for his loss.
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L'organist
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for ken
for all who love him
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Piglet
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So sorry to hear this - I didn't have all that much interaction with Ken on these boards, but his posts were always worth reading.
I was looking back at his Easter sermon thread and at the time I didn't know that he was ill; now I realise what a brave thing it must have been for him to do.
for his soul, and for Persephone, Busyknitter and all who knew and loved him.
Rest eternal grant unto him, O Lord, and let light perpetual shine upon him.
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moron
Shipmate
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ken got under my skin more than once.
May he NOT rest in peace... and continue to get under skins.
One of the best - I remain amazed at his learning.
Anyway yeah dammit... RIP.
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Eutychus
From the edge
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Personally I find it hard to improve on Ancient Mariner's quote:
Unrest in peace
above.
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Justinian
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Eudaimonaic Laughter - my blog.
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malik3000
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After a hiatus from the Ship (not for any bad reason, just other business) I have just now checked in to see what is happening, and am floored by this news. What an utter total shock. To say how very very sad seems so inadequate. Ken's posts exemplified the best of what is special about the Ship.
I never met you face to face, Ken, but thanks for the interesting and thought-provoking posts. Rest in peace and rise in glory, Ken.
Persephone Hazard and busy knitter, prayers that the Most High give you strength and comfort, and as well to all the many who miss him and will remember him.
"and weeping o'er the grave we make our song: Alleluia, alleluia, alleluia."
[ 20. May 2014, 14:36: Message edited by: malik3000 ]
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Tubbs
Miss Congeniality
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quote:
Originally posted by chive:
May he rest in peace, rise in glory and argue socialism with the angels.
My prayers are with Persephone Hazard, busyknitter and all his family. May God hold you in the palm of his hand.
"... and argue socialism with the angels over a pint".
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Caissa
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My condolences to his family and friends.
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QLib
Bad Example
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Been busy at w*rk and not paying proper attention.
I'm so sorry.
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alienfromzog
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I have been away for a few days. Only just noticed this thread. It was the Hell-thread that sent me in the right direction.
There are no words for moments like this but I think the length of this thread in just 3 days shows the world what we all thought of Ken.
As for me, I have changed my signature.
And this is what I think about cancer...
AFZ
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Dogwalker
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My condolences, as well. I never met Ken, but I really enjoyed his posts.
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MrSponge2U
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I haven't been around the ship much recently, due to being very busy in real life. I found out about Ken, and what sad news, what a loss. I always enjoyed his wit and intelligence, and he will be very much missed. May he rest in peace.
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Beautiful Dreamer
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Prayers and condolences to Persephone Hazard and your whole family. I didn't know Ken well, but he seems to have made a major impact on this board and, for that, he will be greatly missed. The world needs more great souls like his.
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Now go away, or I shall taunt you a second time!
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Oscar the Grouch
Adopted Cascadian
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I never met ken in Real Life. My loss. I suspect that I would have greatly enjoyed knowing him.
One of the things I loved about him was that even when I disagreed with one of his posts, I valued reading it and knew that it had been written from a place of deep thought and passionate belief.
for the family and for all who knew and loved him.
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Grits
Compassionate fundamentalist
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He really was one of the greats, an icon of the Ship. His words were always measured and meaningful. We are less because of his loss.
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Equinas
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Spawn
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Just read people talking about Ken in the past tense and shocked to discover this thread. He'll be sorely missed. Never met him but we crossed paths and swords many times. My prayers for Ken's family and friends.
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mark_in_manchester
not waving, but...
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Bloody hell.
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(so good, I wanted to see it after my posts and not only after those of shipmate JBohn from whom I stole it)
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Edith
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So sad. When I first found the ship I read his posts with delight and at one point responded with 'Ken for Prime Minister'. His moral authority, wisdom and wit - and his SE London affiliation would have transformed the entire political, moral and cultural landscape. He is one of the saints of heaven. RIP
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A.Pilgrim
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Been away from the Ship for a few weeks very busy with RL, so it has been a real shock to find this thread. Ken and I crossed swords on a few occasions, but he was certainly someone whose views and extensive knowledge I respected.
I'm surprised to find out how moved I am by the news - he will be missed a great deal. I never met him in RL, but in God's mercy I hope that we shall meet in the life of the world to come.
My thoughts and condolences to his family.
Angus
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daronmedway
Shipmate
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So very sorry to hear this. I will really miss ken's incisive wit and consistent clarity of thought. He was a brilliant shipmate.
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Persephone Hazard
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My father's funeral will be at 12pm on Friday June 13th, at St John's Church (addresses at the end). After the service, some will proceed to the burial at Brockley Cemetery, while others will stay at the church for tea and such. We'll all reconvene at the Rising Sun (dad's local of twenty-five years, down the hill from the church) for the kind of wake he would have wanted - lots of beer, lots of celebration, and lots of remembrance. Here are some other things you might want to know:
- My dad hated cut flowers; he called them "murdered plants". As such, in lieu of flowers please consider making a donation to St John's Church - an institution to which he was devoted for a quarter of a century.
- Everyone is welcome to come to the funeral service. If you only knew him online but would quite like to come, come. If you'd want to be there but would feel more comfortable accompanied by (for example) your partner who is someone my dad never met, bring them.
- Everyone is also welcome at the burial, but space will be a little limited - we will after all be at the graveside. As such, some of you may wish to stay behind and rejoin the family and close friends at the pub afterwards.
- Even if you can't take time off work for the funeral (or otherwise can't be there), we'd love you to consider coming to the wake in the pub that evening anyway. After all, it's a Friday night - it's what he would have wanted!
- If you'd like to visit him in the Chapel of Rest prior to the funeral, you're very welcome to - please ask me for details of how to do this and I will get them to you.
St John's can be found at: St John’s Church, St John’s Vale, SE8 4EA
The Rising Sun is: 120 Loampit Hill, SE13 7SN
Despite the confusingly different addresses, the two are actually on the same road as each other - ten minutes walk in a straight line downhill!
Any questions, please just ask.
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A picture is worth a thousand words, but it's a lot easier to make up a thousand words than one decent picture. - ken.
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Vulpior
Foxier than Thou
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I have noted the time and will be with you in spirit, probably with beer in hand.
May Ken rest in peace and rise in glory.
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Alaric the Goth
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So sad to hear the news about ken's passing away. I am not on the Ship much these days and only found this thread this afternoon. An intelligent, witty man has left us. My prayers for Ken's friends and family.
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Dormouse
Glis glis – Ship's rodent
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Everyone else has said it better than I could, so I will just add my prayers for all those who loved Ken and will miss him. May God hold you in the palm of his hand.
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jbohn
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quote:
Originally posted by Vulpior:
I have noted the time and will be with you in spirit, probably with beer in hand.
May Ken rest in peace and rise in glory.
I'll raise a pint for him from this side of the Pond.
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Presleyterian
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"Grant, Almighty God, that as thou shinest on us by thy word, we may not be blind at midnight, nor wilfully seek darkness, and thus lull our minds asleep: but may we be roused daily by thy words, and may we stir up ourselves more and more to fear thy name and thus present ourselves and all our pursuits, as a sacrifice to thee, that thou mayest peaceably rule, and perpetually dwell in us, until thou gatherest us to thy celestial habitation, where there is reserved for us eternal rest and glory through Jesus Christ our Lord. Amen."
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comet
Snowball in Hell
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I went looking to see if one could donate to St. John's online, and unless I'm missing it, it doesn't appear so. for those in the know, if a donation was sent to St John’s Church, St John’s Vale, London, UK SE8 4EA would it get there? I don't know if that's a full mailing address over there.
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passer
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So sorry to hear this. It will be quieter without Ken. Commiserations to his family and friends. ![[Frown]](frown.gif)
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Jack the Lass
Ship's airhead
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quote:
Originally posted by comet:
I went looking to see if one could donate to St. John's online, and unless I'm missing it, it doesn't appear so. for those in the know, if a donation was sent to St John’s Church, St John’s Vale, London, UK SE8 4EA would it get there? I don't know if that's a full mailing address over there.
Yes, it should get there with that address. Can I just check (Persephone?) what the exact payee would be on the cheque? Not sure if the bank would accept 'St John's church' or if it needs to be something else. Thank you x
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Qoheleth.
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quote:
Originally posted by comet:
I went looking to see if one could donate to St. John's online, and unless I'm missing it, it doesn't appear so. for those in the know, if a donation was sent to St John’s Church, St John’s Vale, London, UK SE8 4EA would it get there? I don't know if that's a full mailing address over there.
That's certainly a valid address.
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Jengie jon
Semper Reformanda
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Comet
If you want to know how best to make a donation then how to contact the church can be found on this webpage and yes that is its full postal address.
I think, the clerics will fast learn why it is a good idea to have the treasurers email on the website.
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comet
Snowball in Hell
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Thanks, Jengie. I did get that far, just wasn't sure if that was enough info.
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"It's hard to be religious when certain people are never incinerated by bolts of lightning.” -Calvin
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busyknitter
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One of us will find out about the correct cheque payee and pass it on.
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comet
Snowball in Hell
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Thank you, BK!
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