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IngoB
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So we have a new pope. What will this papacy bring?
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Sparrow
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You're quick off the mark!
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Zach82
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They've picked him, but he hasn't come out yet. I hope for greater ecumenical dialogue between the Roman Catholic Church and Protestants. But I'm just wishing.
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Crœsos
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My guess is that they'll lead off with some kind of name and identity.
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IngoB
Sentire cum Ecclesia
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Originally posted by Sparrow:
You're quick off the mark!
Well, it's the age of the internet and I'm watching live footage on the web while hacking in posts on a BB. That's certainly one changed aspect of the world of great interest to the papacy now, I would say. (Not what I do personally... ![[Biased]](wink.gif) The rise of the web.)
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Jon in the Nati
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Annuntio vobis gaudium magnum...
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Crœsos
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Interesting quantum mechanical problem. Inside the Sistine box, they've already picked "Schrödinger's Pope", so the new pontiff's positions are already known (though his momentum may be uncertain). On the outside we've got multiple potential popes, their wave function not having collapsed into Pope and not-Pope.
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CL
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Given the speed I'll be shocked if it isn't Scola.
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Boogie
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Originally posted by leo:
Maybe his first job is to close the gay sauna that the Vatican recently purchased according to this.
Cute!
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Zach82
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True story: I once got into an argument with one of my confirmation kids trying to explain that Schroedinger's cat is a thought experiment about the quantum level of existence, and that an actual cat in the experiment would certainly be dead, even if no one looked.
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Chorister
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It was very exciting to see the white smoke, to hear the cheering and the bells. One could be forgiven for thinking, earlier in the day, that the new pope was called Jonathan Livingston Seagull, and there would be much in his story to inspire a new pope.
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Crœsos
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Originally posted by Zach82:
True story: I once got into an argument with one of my confirmation kids trying to explain that Schroedinger's cat is a thought experiment about the quantum level of existence, and that an actual cat in the experiment would certainly be dead, even if no one looked.
Ummm, no. The whole point of the Schrödinger box is that it's only fatal to the cat 50% of the time. It's the uncertainty that the thought experiment is supposed to illustrate.
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Is it halftime? Why is there a marching band?
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Jon in the Nati
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The seagull got there at about 5:40 Rome time, and within twelve minutes had a Twitter account.
@SistineSeagull. What a time to be alive.
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Chorister
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What, flies in and craps all over the place (or worse)? Maybe not....
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Crœsos
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Originally posted by Boogie:
I was very taken with that seagull.
An image of the Holy Spirit?
![[Angel]](graemlins/angel.gif)
Seems a more apt image for a church that characterizes itself as "fishers of men" than an herbivore like a dove.
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Zach82
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Don't be silly. Everyone knows seagulls are Unitarians. Everyone.
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Doublethink.
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Bloody hell that was quick - now watching BBC new live *crosses fingers*
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Boogie
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Originally posted by Chorister:
What, flies in and craps all over the place (or worse)? Maybe not....
Well, doves do exactly the same, but the crap tends to pile up in one place! (I know, I used to keep them)
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Mark Betts
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I'm watching "Russia Today" but they haven't mentioned it yet. Anyway, whoever he is, I'll always have a deep respect for Joseph Ratzinger.
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Ad Orientem
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Originally posted by Mark Betts:
Anyway, whoever he is, I'll always have a deep respect for Joseph Ratzinger.
Ditto.
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Desert Daughter
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Ditto
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Doublethink.
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Commentators are properly babbling about bugger all.
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Jon in the Nati
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Oh yeah, this is bad coverage. EWTN is just as annoying as the secular media, but at least the EWTN people know what they are talking about. The CNN folks were blathering about how soon major changes to church teaching could occur, should the new pope wish it. These people are truly living in a fantasy world.
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Wesley J
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Papal Bunga Bunga party in the Cafe. Should you wish to join. We all agreed it will be Berlusconi.
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ArachnidinElmet
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Originally posted by Doublethink:
Commentators are properly babbling about bugger all.
You're not wrong. One of the commentators actually just said "Well John, we don't really know anything about anything". Can't argue with that.
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Mark Betts
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I'm watching "Russia Today" but they haven't mentioned it yet...
They have now, and yes, you're right Doublethink - however, they've told us that the name will be announced imminently.
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Doublethink.
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They have been saying that for about half an hour now.
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Crœsos
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Originally posted by ArachnidinElmet:
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Originally posted by Doublethink:
Commentators are properly babbling about bugger all.
You're not wrong. One of the commentators actually just said "Well John, we don't really know anything about anything". Can't argue with that.
It's a phenomenon more common in sports broadcasting than in news, where the commentators have keep commenting regardless of whether anything is actually going on or not. For an extended stoppage in play they can go off on some pretty weird tangents.
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Doublethink.
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Originally posted by ArachnidinElmet:
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Originally posted by Doublethink:
Commentators are properly babbling about bugger all.
You're not wrong. One of the commentators actually just said "Well John, we don't really know anything about anything". Can't argue with that.
It would have been a little more dignified if they had done a bulletin then played some appropriate liturgical music - and just let the scrolling across the bottom of the screen give the basic info.
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IngoB
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Now.
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Doublethink.
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That Cardinal Deacon doesn't look well.
Woot, Brazilian Cardinal ! With a new name !
(First Jesuit ever elected they're saying.)
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The crowd didn't seem to happy then.
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IngoB
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Jorge Maria Cardinal Bergoglio! Francis I! A Jesuit!
Wow.
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Zach82
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Well, congrats to our RC friends.
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A Jesuit, oh no! A bedrock of scholasticism and modernism.
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Doublethink.
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Oops - Argentinian.
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For whatever reason I feel positive about this decision. Can't say why, maybe it's just because I have a soft spot for the Jesuits.
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Ariel
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Yes - my tutor at university was an ex-Jesuit, one of the cleverest men I've ever met.
A few firsts here - haven't had a Jesuit pope before, or a south American, nor a Pope Francis. Fingers crossed that the church is in safe hands now.
ETA I don't think anyone saw this coming.
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Og, King of Bashan
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Originally posted by Doublethink:
Oops - Argentinian.
Having spent some time with a number of Argentinians, they wouldn't have let you get away with that without comment. They don't lack for national esteem...
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Doublethink.
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Presumably naming himself after this guy.
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First Argentinian pope.
First South American pope.
First Jesuit pope.
First Francis.
Anyone know how he stands on liturgy?
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Lothiriel
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He looks terrified.
But better now that he's talking.
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Doublethink.
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Someone struggling to translate the lord's prayer !
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Schroedinger's cat
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Originally posted by Crœsos:
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Originally posted by Zach82:
True story: I once got into an argument with one of my confirmation kids trying to explain that Schroedinger's cat is a thought experiment about the quantum level of existence, and that an actual cat in the experiment would certainly be dead, even if no one looked.
Ummm, no. The whole point of the Schrödinger box is that it's only fatal to the cat 50% of the time. It's the uncertainty that the thought experiment is supposed to illustrate.
Actually, the point is that on the macro scale, this doesn't happen. But if this was on the subatomic scale, the "cat" would be both alive and dead.
On the macro scale, the cat is most certainly either alive or dead, if you were to conduct the experiment. On this scale, the quantum effects do not work. Any you would be in trouble with the RSPCA.
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Doublethink.
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What is a plenary indulgence ? (Impressed with the shout out to twitter.)
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Originally posted by IngoB:
Jorge Maria Cardinal Bergoglio! Francis I! A Jesuit!
Wow.
Francis I -- already he's a blessing to Catholic school children everywhere.
I think he has a kind face. I'm verklempt.
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