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seekingsister
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The thread title in reference to the oft-stated view that "people like me" are reason sexism and racism are still around, because some of us want to talk about their causes and agents and that might include people who resemble you physically. People like you are the reason we can't even have a conversation, because you can't even fathom that someone who is a different color or gender might possibly see the world differently too.
A lot of black people are afraid of white people, and a lot of women are afraid of men. But no one is afraid of YOU SPECIFICALLY unless you are a racist or a sexist. So why don't you actually listen for one second and stop focusing on the fact that you as a man or a white person are upset that the feeling is even being expressed.
Marvin the Martian, orfeo, EE are included here.
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EtymologicalEvangelical
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Perhaps you might like to learn to qualify your statements, instead of making ignorant generalisations.
Got it?
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fletcher christian
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Lol, somebody just struck a match at a gas station.
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I don't know what your problem is. I'm just fairly confident you had it before I ever met you.
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Marvin the Martian
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Originally posted by seekingsister:
A lot of black people are afraid of white people, and a lot of women are afraid of men. But no one is afraid of YOU SPECIFICALLY unless you are a racist or a sexist. So why don't you actually listen for one second and stop focusing on the fact that you as a man or a white person are upset that the feeling is even being expressed.
No, YOU fucking listen you stupid prick. You cannot say "a lot of women are afraid of men" without it meaning they're afraid of all men. If they're only afraid of sexist men, then why don't you say "some women are afraid of sexist men"?
You simply do not seem to be able to process why what you're posting is prejudiced. Here's a hint - it's because you're saying all men are sexist. Not SOME men, ALL men.
And then you turn round and say "if you're not sexist then it doesn't apply to you". What utter bullshit. For that bullshit to be true, then non-sexist men must not be members of the group called "men".
I called you on this on the Purg thread, and posted plenty of examples of exactly the same shit being said from other prejudiced viewpoints. Either through idiocy or a firm commitment to a prejudiced viewpoint of your own, you failed to see the point. You're either prejudiced or an idiot. Which is it?
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seekingsister
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Originally posted by EtymologicalEvangelical:
Perhaps you might like to learn to qualify your statements, instead of making ignorant generalisations.
Got it?
So I never posted statistics, government reports, and academic papers in the racism thread? Just "ignorant generalizations?" Wow, you are really a piece of work.
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seekingsister
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Originally posted by Marvin the Martian:
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Originally posted by seekingsister:
A lot of black people are afraid of white people, and a lot of women are afraid of men. But no one is afraid of YOU SPECIFICALLY unless you are a racist or a sexist. So why don't you actually listen for one second and stop focusing on the fact that you as a man or a white person are upset that the feeling is even being expressed.
No, YOU fucking listen you stupid prick. You cannot say "a lot of women are afraid of men" without it meaning they're afraid of all men. If they're only afraid of sexist men, then why don't you say "some women are afraid of sexist men"?
You simply do not seem to be able to process why what you're posting is prejudiced. Here's a hint - it's because you're saying all men are sexist. Not SOME men, ALL men.
And then you turn round and say "if you're not sexist then it doesn't apply to you". What utter bullshit. For that bullshit to be true, then non-sexist men must not be members of the group called "men".
I called you on this on the Purg thread, and posted plenty of examples of exactly the same shit being said from other prejudiced viewpoints. Either through idiocy or a firm commitment to a prejudiced viewpoint of your own, you failed to see the point. You're either prejudiced or an idiot. Which is it?
Calling me a prick? You sir are a sexist! How dare you treat male genitalia as an insult.
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seekingsister
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Originally posted by fletcher christian:
Lol, somebody just struck a match at a gas station.
Better here than in the other threads, where grown ups are talking.
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Originally posted by seekingsister:
Calling me a prick? You sir are a sexist! How dare you treat male genitalia as an insult.
Oh Lordy. This one's not given to careful analysis.
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seekingsister
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Originally posted by orfeo:
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Originally posted by seekingsister:
Calling me a prick? You sir are a sexist! How dare you treat male genitalia as an insult.
Oh Lordy. This one's not given to careful analysis.
Get a sense of humor for the love of God. It's a joke.
Isn't Hell where we get to play and be mean to each other? Or is it for boring old farts like you?
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Marvin the Martian
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Originally posted by seekingsister:
Calling me a prick? You sir are a sexist! How dare you treat male genitalia as an insult.
I'm still not sure if you're going for "prejudiced" or "idiot", but the latter is looking more and more likely.
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Sioni Sais
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Originally posted by seekingsister:
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Originally posted by orfeo:
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Originally posted by seekingsister:
Calling me a prick? You sir are a sexist! How dare you treat male genitalia as an insult.
Oh Lordy. This one's not given to careful analysis.
Get a sense of humor for the love of God. It's a joke.
Isn't Hell where we get to play and be mean to each other? Or is it for boring old farts like you?
You can be mean to one another in Hell, but it's not compulsory.
The Circus is the place to play.
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orfeo
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Originally posted by seekingsister:
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Originally posted by orfeo:
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Originally posted by seekingsister:
Calling me a prick? You sir are a sexist! How dare you treat male genitalia as an insult.
Oh Lordy. This one's not given to careful analysis.
Get a sense of humor for the love of God. It's a joke.
Isn't Hell where we get to play and be mean to each other? Or is it for boring old farts like you?
You'll find that this particular boring old fart is here on a daily basis. Job requirement. Voluntary job, admittedly, but I signed up for it.
We don't specialise in playful around here, but it does occur quite often that people play around. Pretty damn unusual for the starter of a Hellcall to be claiming jokes within the first 10 posts, though. I strongly suspect the only reason you're claiming a joke is because you've now realised you said something quite stupid and want to cover it up.
Or it could just be another sign that you're really, REALLY bad at conveying tone in your text.
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seekingsister
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Originally posted by Marvin the Martian:
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Originally posted by seekingsister:
Calling me a prick? You sir are a sexist! How dare you treat male genitalia as an insult.
I'm still not sure if you're going for "prejudiced" or "idiot", but the latter is looking more and more likely.
I think I got over being upset by the word "idiot" around age 9 or so. And I'm not prejudging you, based on your posts I think you're a sad bitter person who probably wouldn't dare whisper most of the crap you post on here in real life.
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seekingsister
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Originally posted by orfeo:
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Originally posted by seekingsister:
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Originally posted by orfeo:
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Originally posted by seekingsister:
Calling me a prick? You sir are a sexist! How dare you treat male genitalia as an insult.
Oh Lordy. This one's not given to careful analysis.
Get a sense of humor for the love of God. It's a joke.
Isn't Hell where we get to play and be mean to each other? Or is it for boring old farts like you?
You'll find that this particular boring old fart is here on a daily basis. Job requirement. Voluntary job, admittedly, but I signed up for it.
We don't specialise in playful around here, but it does occur quite often that people play around. Pretty damn unusual for the starter of a Hellcall to be claiming jokes within the first 10 posts, though. I strongly suspect the only reason you're claiming a joke is because you've now realised you said something quite stupid and want to cover it up.
Or it could just be another sign that you're really, REALLY bad at conveying tone in your text.
It was 100% a joke, believe me or not, I don't care.
The fact that it was in response to the accusation that I hate men was just too good to resist. "You hate men, you prick!" I mean, how could I not respond?
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orfeo
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Originally posted by seekingsister:
I mean, how could I not respond?
Indeed, not responding might have required a brain somewhere between your eyes and your fingers. Because that organ might have been able to work out that Marvin was demonstrating he is quite happy to use the term 'prick' for idiots of either gender.
If you like, we can wait around and see how long it takes for him to call you a 'stupid cunt' and even up the genitalia. ![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif)
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Marvin the Martian
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Originally posted by seekingsister:
I think I got over being upset by the word "idiot" around age 9 or so.
I can believe that. You must have heard it it a lot.
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And I'm not prejudging you
Yes you are. You're prejudging every man when you say we're all sexist.
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based on your posts I think you're a sad bitter person who probably wouldn't dare whisper most of the crap you post on here in real life.
Whereas I can quite easily picture you as the sort that would accuse every man you see of being a sexist pig before they've even said a word.
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Marvin the Martian
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Originally posted by orfeo:
If you like, we can wait around and see how long it takes for him to call you a 'stupid cunt' and even up the genitalia.
Not likely. As we're often reminded, cunts have both depth and warmth.
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People called "seekingsister" are fuckwits.
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seekingsister
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Originally posted by Marvin the Martian:
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Originally posted by seekingsister:
I think I got over being upset by the word "idiot" around age 9 or so.
I can believe that. You must have heard it it a lot.
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And I'm not prejudging you
Yes you are. You're prejudging every man when you say we're all sexist.
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based on your posts I think you're a sad bitter person who probably wouldn't dare whisper most of the crap you post on here in real life.
Whereas I can quite easily picture you as the sort that would accuse every man you see of being a sexist pig before they've even said a word.
Are you high? Either that or illiterate. Show me here I said I think all or even most men are sexist.
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orfeo
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Gee, thanks mousethief, suddenly my mind is occupied with the question of whether the Ship's antiquated software guards properly against duplicate names.
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seekingsister
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Originally posted by orfeo:
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Originally posted by seekingsister:
I mean, how could I not respond?
Indeed, not responding might have required a brain somewhere between your eyes and your fingers. Because that organ might have been able to work out that Marvin was demonstrating he is quite happy to use the term 'prick' for idiots of either gender.
If you like, we can wait around and see how long it takes for him to call you a 'stupid cunt' and even up the genitalia.
So I'm not supposed to reply on a discussion forum.
Is the c word meant to bother me? How very sad to sink so low. I don't use it because it seems not the type of word to throw around on a Christian website.
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Caissa
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You are being a royal asshole Marvin.
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seekingsister
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Originally posted by mousethief:
People called "seekingsister" are fuckwits.
Gosh I hope the other seekingsisters don't take that too personally. Touchiness is a problem around here and apparently it's contagious.
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orfeo
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Originally posted by seekingsister:
So I'm not supposed to reply on a discussion forum.
Is the c word meant to bother me? How very sad to sink so low. I don't use it because it seems not the type of word to throw around on a Christian website.
Well let's see, you could have responded to just about anything ELSE in the post besides the word 'prick', yes?
And no, "the c word" is not meant to bother you - although evidently it does seeing you can't cope with typing it (but prick was fine). It was supposed to make you think about those equivalents you claim to be fond of. I don't actually think you have a damn clue how to assess whether 2 things are equivalent or not, but hey, I thought I'd give you another shot.
Also, it's been well established that calling the Ship a Christian website will get you nowhere. It's a website of Christian unrest. There's a difference.
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Caissa
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The sexism permitted on this site is deplorable. Hell is no excuse.
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orfeo
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Originally posted by Caissa:
The sexism permitted on this site is deplorable. Hell is no excuse.
I'd be quite fascinated to know where you managed to find sexism in this thread, as you appear to be asserting.
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ITTWACW raises it's head in the first page.
Predictable ![[Snore]](graemlins/snore.gif)
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Sioni Sais
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Originally posted by Caissa:
The sexism permitted on this site is deplorable. Hell is no excuse.
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Any, yes absolutely any, discussions of Ship's policy belong in The Styx.
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seekingsister
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Originally posted by balaam:
ITTWACW raises it's head in the first page.
Predictable
Well I'm terribly sorry for making that error. Silly me.
Let's get back to some losers calling me names to make themselves feel like big boys.
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RuthW
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Originally posted by Caissa:
The sexism permitted on this site is deplorable. Hell is no excuse.
The sexism permitted in society is deplorable. That it shows up on this website is merely a reflection, and a relatively minor one, of what happens all the time, every day, on all our lives. Here I am free to give people a piece of my mind when it happens; in real life circumstances frequently dictate that I be more circumspect.
Moreover, I am a full-throated supporter of free speech. I want people to air their sexist views, not give lip service to an equality they don't really support.
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Cross-posted with the hostly post.
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Marvin the Martian
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Originally posted by seekingsister:
Are you high? Either that or illiterate. Show me here I said I think all or even most men are sexist.
You're defending the phrase "all men are sexist". That's a mighty odd thing to do if you don't believe it yourself.
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Originally posted by seekingsister:
Let's get back to some losers calling me names to make themselves feel like big boys.
Sir! Sir! She called me loser! ![[Waterworks]](graemlins/bawling.gif)
Here's another handy tip: if you don't want to be called names, starting a Hellcall against 3 people simultaneously is a damn poor strategy.
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Originally posted by Caissa:
You are being a royal asshole Marvin.
What, by asserting that not all men are sexist, and that to say that they are is prejudiced?
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seekingsister
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Originally posted by orfeo:
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Originally posted by seekingsister:
So I'm not supposed to reply on a discussion forum.
Is the c word meant to bother me? How very sad to sink so low. I don't use it because it seems not the type of word to throw around on a Christian website.
Well let's see, you could have responded to just about anything ELSE in the post besides the word 'prick', yes?
And no, "the c word" is not meant to bother you - although evidently it does seeing you can't cope with typing it (but prick was fine). It was supposed to make you think about those equivalents you claim to be fond of. I don't actually think you have a damn clue how to assess whether 2 things are equivalent or not, but hey, I thought I'd give you another shot.
Also, it's been well established that calling the Ship a Christian website will get you nowhere. It's a website of Christian unrest. There's a difference.
Get a grip and hold tight.
I think you and a few others are self obsessed jerks who cannot let minorities speak for 5 minutes without making it about yourselves. All you've done in this thread is prove that you're very very sad an incapable of seeing other viewpoints.
I brought it here to keep people like you from derailing every interesting debate around here. If you think any of your pathetic insults have any effect on me, you're terribly mistaken. Your claim that you called me a c but didnt mean it to bother me is pathetic. Of course you did. I just want you to shut up and let other people talk about things that you might not like without resorting to name calling. So call me names here instead since you can't resist.
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Originally posted by Marvin the Martian:
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Originally posted by seekingsister:
A lot of black people are afraid of white people, and a lot of women are afraid of men. But no one is afraid of YOU SPECIFICALLY unless you are a racist or a sexist. So why don't you actually listen for one second and stop focusing on the fact that you as a man or a white person are upset that the feeling is even being expressed.
No, YOU fucking listen you stupid prick. You cannot say "a lot of women are afraid of men" without it meaning they're afraid of all men. If they're only afraid of sexist men, then why don't you say "some women are afraid of sexist men"?
You simply do not seem to be able to process why what you're posting is prejudiced. Here's a hint - it's because you're saying all men are sexist. Not SOME men, ALL men.
But there are some women who, because of bad experiences are either afraid of or simply don't trust all men. I guess there are black people who fear and mistrust all white people. It's not prejudiced to point that out, nor is it something to get angry about - it's something to be sensitive about.
And people in one or more of the groups that traditionally held the power need to be aware that, however good their intentions, they may still be unconsciously harbouring racist and sexist assumptions. Like, for example, all those people (mostly male people, IIRC) who posted early on the Jimmy Saville thread, saying the women were probably deluded, or malicious, or out for the money, perhaps they were jolly nearly 16 and parctically asking for it by throwing themselves at him, and it was a bit of a shame to blacken his character after his death, given all that charity work he did.
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seekingsister
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Originally posted by Marvin the Martian:
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Originally posted by seekingsister:
Are you high? Either that or illiterate. Show me here I said I think all or even most men are sexist.
You're defending the phrase "all men are sexist". That's a mighty odd thing to do if you don't believe it yourself.
Show me the defense.
What I said was that if someone says "all men are sexist" and you're not sexist, then that person is obviously not taking about YOU.
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Originally posted by seekingsister
So I never posted statistics, government reports, and academic papers in the racism thread? Just "ignorant generalizations?" Wow, you are really a piece of work.
Well, at least I try to understand something called 'context'.
Do you?
No, I didn't think so.
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orfeo
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I think you and a few others are self obsessed jerks who cannot let minorities speak for 5 minutes without making it about yourselves.
Women aren't a minority.
You walked into the middle of a conversation where a couple of male posters were being challenged by a group of both male and female posters for making a sweeping assertion that men were sexist - an assertion that didn't come with any qualifiers (in the case of TSA, the assertion was repeatedly strident).
This was on a thread about male feminists. It was a thread about men. Got it?
It's not as if all the men waltzed into a thread all about women to take it over, for heaven's sake. It was already ABOUT us.
And then, when you DID stride in, you started spouting linguistically and conceptually twisted ideas.
You want to talk about people derailing threads? Look in a mirror.
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That wasn't a discussion of ship policy Sioni Saia; it was a hllish complaint of ship policy. Can ship policy be called to Hell?
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Originally posted by orfeo:
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Originally posted by seekingsister:
Let's get back to some losers calling me names to make themselves feel like big boys.
Sir! Sir! She called me loser!
Here's another handy tip: if you don't want to be called names, starting a Hellcall against 3 people simultaneously is a damn poor strategy.
I intended you to call me names actually, as I said above thats my understanding of Hell's purpose. Just surprised at how quickly and vehemently you've leapt into it.
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A lot of black people are afraid of white people, and a lot of women are afraid of men. But no one is afraid of YOU SPECIFICALLY unless you are a racist or a sexist. So why don't you actually listen for one second and stop focusing on the fact that you as a man or a white person are upset that the feeling is even being expressed.
No, YOU fucking listen you stupid prick. You cannot say "a lot of women are afraid of men" without it meaning they're afraid of all men. If they're only afraid of sexist men, then why don't you say "some women are afraid of sexist men"?
You simply do not seem to be able to process why what you're posting is prejudiced. Here's a hint - it's because you're saying all men are sexist. Not SOME men, ALL men.
But there are some women who, because of bad experiences are either afraid of or simply don't trust all men. I guess there are black people who fear and mistrust all white people. It's not prejudiced to point that out, nor is it something to get angry about - it's something to be sensitive about.
I can't speak with any absolute certainty for Marvin, but I'm not angry about the fact that some women distrust all men. I'm just about seekingsister's bizarre insistence that a woman who distrusts all men doesn't actually distrust an individual man, specifically.
It's torturing the English language in cruel ways to argue that.
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I intended you to call me names actually, as I said above thats my understanding of Hell's purpose. Just surprised at how quickly and vehemently you've leapt into it.
As already explained, I have daily practice.
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So I never posted statistics, government reports, and academic papers in the racism thread? Just "ignorant generalizations?" Wow, you are really a piece of work.
Well, at least I try to understand something called 'context'.
Do you?
No, I didn't think so.
Are you saying that the data I posted, as understood in the same way I understand it by the government, universities, and the media, is being viewed "out of context?" Thats the stand you want to take, huh?
Are you a tin foil hat wearing conspiracy nut? Not my own phrase but it's been said "reality has a liberal bias."
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But there are some women who, because of bad experiences are either afraid of or simply don't trust all men. I guess there are black people who fear and mistrust all white people. It's not prejudiced to point that out, nor is it something to get angry about - it's something to be sensitive about.
Is it ok for a man to not trust any women because of bad experiences? Is it ok for a white person who has been mugged by a black person to fear all black people? No, it isn't. It's sexist and racist respectively.
So what's the difference?
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Are you high? Either that or illiterate. Show me here I said I think all or even most men are sexist.
You're defending the phrase "all men are sexist". That's a mighty odd thing to do if you don't believe it yourself.
Show me the defense.
What I said was that if someone says "all men are sexist" and you're not sexist, then that person is obviously not taking about YOU.
If you're a man then they must be, because you the statement says "All men". 'All' is an absolute term. End of.
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You know that moment on a wildlife film when they're following the pride of lions and the gazelle is surrounded by lions and you can't help anthropomorphising the whole thing and feeling really sorry for the gazelle....
Of course, in the wild, no gazelle is stupid enough to walk into the centre of the pride when they're all sleeping in the sun and kicking them all in the face shouting "chase me, chase me!"
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Show me the defense.
What I said was that if someone says "all men are sexist" and you're not sexist, then that person is obviously not taking about YOU.
Show you the defence? You just repeated it
And, once more, the phrase "all men are sexist" is talking about ALL MEN. if they're not talking about me then they're NOT talking about ALL MEN. Either they are wrong to have said what they said, or you are saying I am not a man. This isn't rocket science. ![[Disappointed]](graemlins/disappointed.gif)
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