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HCH
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Are there characters in the Bible who deserve more credit and respect than they usually get? For instance, do you think Esau and Noah's wife are underrated? In the New Testament, how about Martha and Joseph (not to mention some disciples who are mentioned once and then seem to disappear)?

(I'm not sure whether this belongs here or in Heaven.)

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Hedgehog

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One of my former teachers (some 30 years ago) was quite fond of the Canaanite woman:

Matthew 15:21-28

What impressed my teacher is that this is one of the few (possibly the only) times where Jesus changes his mind. He dismisses the woman saying that he was sent to the lost sheep of Israel (i.e., not to console Canaanites). He relents when the woman persists.

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L'organist
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Jael - wife of Heber the Kenite.

She entertained the fleeing general Sisera and gave him the best hospitality "butter in a Lordly dish". Settled him comfortably for the night then drove a tent peg through his temples with such gusto it went into the ground.

Certainly Deborah rated Jael - her song in the book of Judges gives details of her treatment of Sisera.

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Jengie jon

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Barnabus

A guy who was able to see talent, encourage it and then disappear off to obscurity. Such folk are very, very rare.

Jengie

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Trudy Scrumptious

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quote:
Originally posted by Jengie Jon:
Barnabus

A guy who was able to see talent, encourage it and then disappear off to obscurity. Such folk are very, very rare.

I agree -- I've sort of made Barnabas my own personal patron saint due to his choosing John Mark over Paul.

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Moo

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One of my favorite characters is the man born blind.

At each point in the story he responds with what he understands at the moment.
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So they said again to the blind man, ‘What do you say about him? It was your eyes he opened.’ He said, ‘He is a prophet.’
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We know that this man is a sinner.’ He answered, ‘I do not know whether he is a sinner. One thing I do know, that though I was blind, now I see.’
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He answered them, ‘I have told you already, and you would not listen. Why do you want to hear it again? Do you also want to become his disciples?’
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The man answered, ‘Here is an astonishing thing! You do not know where he comes from, and yet he opened my eyes. We know that God does not listen to sinners, but he does listen to one who worships him and obeys his will. Never since the world began has it been heard that anyone opened the eyes of a person born blind. If this man were not from God, he could do nothing.’

I like the way the man 'calls it as he sees it' in a completely down-to-earth manner.

Moo

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Oscar the Grouch

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quote:
Originally posted by Hedgehog:
One of my former teachers (some 30 years ago) was quite fond of the Canaanite woman:

Matthew 15:21-28

What impressed my teacher is that this is one of the few (possibly the only) times where Jesus changes his mind. He dismisses the woman saying that he was sent to the lost sheep of Israel (i.e., not to console Canaanites). He relents when the woman persists.

She gets my vote, too.

All in all, it is a remarkable story. I find it interesting that I've heard so many preachers try and explain this passage in terms of "Jesus knew what he was doing all along. He didn't change his mind at all (because Jesus can't ever be wrong)."

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