homepage
  roll on christmas  
click here to find out more about ship of fools click here to sign up for the ship of fools newsletter click here to support ship of fools
community the mystery worshipper gadgets for god caption competition foolishness features ship stuff
discussion boards live chat cafe avatars frequently-asked questions the ten commandments gallery private boards register for the boards
 
Ship of Fools


Post new thread  Post a reply
My profile login | | Directory | Search | FAQs | Board home
   - Printer-friendly view Next oldest thread   Next newest thread
» Ship of Fools   »   » Oblivion   » Theresa Riggi

 - Email this page to a friend or enemy.    
Source: (consider it) Thread: Theresa Riggi
Tulfes
Shipmate
# 18000

 - Posted      Profile for Tulfes   Email Tulfes   Send new private message       Edit/delete post   Reply with quote 
A mentally ill women who killed her 3 young children in Edinburgh in 2010 has been found dead in a secure hospital in Nottinghamshire after, apparently, taking her own life. A coroner's inquest is to take place.

At the time of the trial in Scotland, it was apparent that the woman was deeply troubled. She was American, living alone in Scotland with her children and going through a difficult divorce from her husband who worked in the oil industry. She was convicted of culpable homicide (=manslaughter) on the ground of diminished responsibility.

All deeply distressing. Meanwhile the tabloid press are gleefully reporting her death on a "good riddance" basis.


These are not "private" concerns. The accused committed appalling crimes and was convicted in the public interest. She died while supposedly in the care of the State ie our care.

Can we do anything except wring our hands and try not to think about it?

Posts: 175 | Registered: Feb 2014  |  IP: Logged
deano
princess
# 12063

 - Posted      Profile for deano   Email deano   Send new private message       Edit/delete post   Reply with quote 
I go past Rampton on the way to Skegness. Just off the A1. Near Dunham Bridge.

--------------------
"The moral high ground is slowly being bombed to oblivion. " - Supermatelot

Posts: 2118 | From: Chesterfield | Registered: Nov 2006  |  IP: Logged
Enoch
Shipmate
# 14322

 - Posted      Profile for Enoch   Email Enoch   Send new private message       Edit/delete post   Reply with quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Tulfes:
... Can we do anything except wring our hands and try not to think about it?

Sadly, probably not. Not everything can either be solved or prevented.

--------------------
Brexit wrexit - Sir Graham Watson

Posts: 7610 | From: Bristol UK(was European Green Capital 2015, now Ljubljana) | Registered: Nov 2008  |  IP: Logged
lilBuddha
Shipmate
# 14333

 - Posted      Profile for lilBuddha     Send new private message       Edit/delete post   Reply with quote 
Tulfes,

What action are we supposed to be considering?

--------------------
I put on my rockin' shoes in the morning
Hallellou, hallellou

Posts: 17627 | From: the round earth's imagined corners | Registered: Dec 2008  |  IP: Logged
Tulfes
Shipmate
# 18000

 - Posted      Profile for Tulfes   Email Tulfes   Send new private message       Edit/delete post   Reply with quote 
quote:
Originally posted by lilBuddha:
Tulfes,

What action are we supposed to be considering?

I don't know. I thought someone else might have some suggestion(s) [Confused]
Posts: 175 | Registered: Feb 2014  |  IP: Logged
North East Quine

Curious beastie
# 13049

 - Posted      Profile for North East Quine   Email North East Quine   Send new private message       Edit/delete post   Reply with quote 
Just to add - she intended to kill herself at the same time as her children, and very nearly succeeded - she did not intend to live after her children's death. I don't know why it seems important to add that, but somehow it does.
Posts: 6414 | From: North East Scotland | Registered: Oct 2007  |  IP: Logged
Tulfes
Shipmate
# 18000

 - Posted      Profile for Tulfes   Email Tulfes   Send new private message       Edit/delete post   Reply with quote 
quote:
Originally posted by North East Quine:
Just to add - she intended to kill herself at the same time as her children, and very nearly succeeded - she did not intend to live after her children's death. I don't know why it seems important to add that, but somehow it does.

Thanks North East Quine. An important point.
Posts: 175 | Registered: Feb 2014  |  IP: Logged
hatless

Shipmate
# 3365

 - Posted      Profile for hatless   Author's homepage     Send new private message       Edit/delete post   Reply with quote 
What would you say to the staff who cared for her? If you were asked to take her funeral service, what would you say then?

--------------------
My crazy theology in novel form

Posts: 4531 | From: Stinkers | Registered: Sep 2002  |  IP: Logged
Schroedinger's cat

Ship's cool cat
# 64

 - Posted      Profile for Schroedinger's cat   Author's homepage     Send new private message       Edit/delete post   Reply with quote 
The problem is, is someone is determined to take their own life, there is very little anyone can do to prevent them. Even in a secure institution.

That does not mean it is reasonable or valid to celebrate this. She was clearly a very troubled person, and the system - in all aspects - failed to help her.

--------------------
Blog
Music for your enjoyment
Lord may all my hard times be healing times
take out this broken heart and renew my mind.

Posts: 18859 | From: At the bottom of a deep dark well. | Registered: May 2001  |  IP: Logged
Amos

Shipmate
# 44

 - Posted      Profile for Amos     Send new private message       Edit/delete post   Reply with quote 
Suicide and self-harm are rampant in prisons, particularly in women's prisons, in this country. As long as the prison service is run with one eye on the tabloids and another on privatisation, it will continue to be the case.

--------------------
At the end of the day we face our Maker alongside Jesus--ken

Posts: 7667 | From: Summerisle | Registered: May 2001  |  IP: Logged
Doublethink.
Ship's Foolwise Unperson
# 1984

 - Posted      Profile for Doublethink.   Author's homepage     Send new private message       Edit/delete post   Reply with quote 
I don't think she was in prison.

Even with ligature audits etc, it is very difficult to prevent someone comitting suicide on a hospital ward if they are either very determined or make repeated impulsive attempts.

I am not willing to put methods up on a public forum, but would just saw that there are methods you will not have thought of that are more effective than you would expect. Prevention can end up being about levels of observation, continuous one to one eyeline observation can be very intrusive for the patient. So at some point you are going to have to make a judgement about reducing that, and there will always be an element of risk in doing so.

[ 11. March 2014, 19:11: Message edited by: Doublethink ]

--------------------
All political thinking for years past has been vitiated in the same way. People can foresee the future only when it coincides with their own wishes, and the most grossly obvious facts can be ignored when they are unwelcome. George Orwell

Posts: 19219 | From: Erehwon | Registered: Aug 2005  |  IP: Logged
Martin60
Shipmate
# 368

 - Posted      Profile for Martin60   Email Martin60   Send new private message       Edit/delete post   Reply with quote 
She rests in peace and will rise to complete healing at the beginning of eternity with her children and us all.

God is THAT powerful.

--------------------
Love wins

Posts: 17586 | From: Never Dobunni after all. Corieltauvi after all. Just moved to the capital. | Registered: Jun 2001  |  IP: Logged


 
Post new thread  Post a reply Close thread   Feature thread   Move thread   Delete thread Next oldest thread   Next newest thread
 - Printer-friendly view
Go to:

Contact us | Ship of Fools | Privacy statement

© Ship of Fools 2016

Powered by Infopop Corporation
UBB.classicTM 6.5.0

 
follow ship of fools on twitter
buy your ship of fools postcards
sip of fools mugs from your favourite nautical website
 
 
  ship of fools