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Doublethink.
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I feel Schweinsteiger deserves some sort of medal, possibly a purple heart ...
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Kelly Alves
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Que viva la Alemania!*
*Long live Germany
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Kelly Alves
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He, Neph's status update:
quote: Congratulations to #Germany the 2014 World Cup Champions. Germany defeats Argentina 1-0 in extra time. Amazing game by both teams but in the end a late goal in the extra time period ended the dreams of one team and achieved the dreams of another.
He's such a great kid.
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Sioni Sais
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Good match, 100% commitment and a great goal to win it!
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IngoB
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I'm not sure the German deserved to win the night, but they sure deserved to win the tournament. And what a beautiful goal from the young guns! [ 13. July 2014, 21:55: Message edited by: IngoB ]
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Kelly Alves
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The Lord loves a gracious winner.
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balaam
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The best defence in the competition did not hold out in the end against the best attack. Good playing from both sides.
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Tukai
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A final worth watching , even though it did start at 5 am Aust time. At about the 80 minute mark, I reckoned that Argentina (esp Higuain) had not taken their chances, and so Germany might well notch the one goal that would win it.
And although Pope Francis [ a keen supporter of one of the Buenos Aires clubs since his childhood] may not have liked the result, he would have been pleased by the work of the camera director, who often showed Jesus looking down benignly on the stadium below, and topped that off at sunset by having a [helicopter ] shot that made the setting sun into a halo for Jesus.
[For those who haven't been to Rio, I refer to the cameraman's use of the famous hilltop statue of Jesus, but who knows what the real JC was thinking.]
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Kelly Alves
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"I love futbol thiiis much."
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Cod
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Bother. That's it for another 4 years.
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deano
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quote: Originally posted by Cod: Bother. That's it for another 4 years.
Err no. The real thing kicks off on the 16th of August, or the 9th if you follow a non-premiership club.
Schweinsteigers bloody face should kill off the notion that "sacr" is something you pick your daughter up from though.
I'm chuffed for Germany. Much preferred them to win rather than the Argies, and it's always heartwarming to hear Sepp Blatter get roundly boo'ed. So aside for England's no show it wasn't too bad a way of spending the early summer.
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Sir Kevin
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We watched the match at a restaurant in Pasadena called McCormick and Schmidt's which was not a sports bar. The food and the service was good, but we watched it with closed captions as house rules prohibited sound on the televisions and played music instead.
I thought it would surely go into penalty kicks, but thankfully it did not! A good result but a bit late in the match. The microbrew beer from Irvine helped pass the time as did conversation with my wife. Gotze was brilliant!
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Hedgehog
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quote: Originally posted by Sir Kevin: I thought it would surely go into penalty kicks, but thankfully it did not! A good result but a bit late in the match.
I thought at the end that Germany was playing for penalty kicks too. They were having a lot of possession but didn't seem to be pushing for a goal...until they did! I am very glad it ended with a goal and even more so that it was a well-taken, beautiful goal and not the result of a chance bounce or fluke accident. Goetze took full advantage of his legs being considerably fresher than most of the people on the field!
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quetzalcoatl
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A very good goal indeed; but Argentina must be rueing their missed chances, of which they had, what, 3 or 4? A fascinating game really, in which the defences dominated. I enjoyed watching both sides defend - Boateng and Mascherano especially.
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quote: Originally posted by deano: quote: Originally posted by Cod: Bother. That's it for another 4 years.
Err no. The real thing kicks off on the 16th of August, or the 9th if you follow a non-premiership club. ...
We've been over this before but what the hey.
The majority of the football following world doesn't follow the EPL, or English football.
Live your dreams but your football knowledge and experience would be far more enjoyable if you looked at football in the rest of Europe and in South America.
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Ad Orientem
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Er, isn't the English Premier League have followers over a billion?
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LeRoc
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Not sure where to put this, but my team drew against Aberdeen tonight. Next Thursday the return. [ 17. July 2014, 21:33: Message edited by: LeRoc ]
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Sioni Sais
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Chelsea sign Brazilian defender.
Obviously, he was not part of the current Brazil team. Filipe Luis was on Brazil's stand-by list* for the World Cup and while transfer fees for defenders have risen, £15.8million for a 28 year old looks a lot.
*TBH, some of those on the pitch weren't doing much more than 'standing by'.
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Imaginary Friend
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I'd say it looks distinctly less than the money that United and Liverpool have been paying for unproven Englishmen this summer.
I'm happy - we need a replacement for the legend that is Ashley Cole, and I think Felipe fits the bill nicely. He certainly impressed when we played Atléti last season.
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Ricardus
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Pfft. Why waste money on defenders? It's not as though a team has ever lost the Premiership through a weak defence ... er ...
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Imaginary Friend
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...Although it wasn't the defence that slipped up when it mattered most...
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Cod
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quote: Originally posted by deano: quote: Originally posted by Cod: Bother. That's it for another 4 years.
Err no. The real thing kicks off on the 16th of August, or the 9th if you follow a non-premiership club.
Nonsense. The real thing kicks off with the Southern Premier.
But nevertheless, there is something about the World Cup. It lacks the relentless grind of league football.
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Sioni Sais
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Live coverage of pre-season friendlies is driving Mrs Sioni potty. We're sure it's new.
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deano
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quote: Originally posted by Sioni Sais: Live coverage of pre-season friendlies is driving Mrs Sioni potty. We're sure it's new.
Are they on Sky? I don't get Sky so boo if they are but still, good for them as do.
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Sioni Sais
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quote: Originally posted by deano: quote: Originally posted by Sioni Sais: Live coverage of pre-season friendlies is driving Mrs Sioni potty. We're sure it's new.
Are they on Sky? I don't get Sky so boo if they are but still, good for them as do.
They have been on BT. Liverpool on Friday, Spurs yesterday. I suppose it's better than talking heads which BT has an awful lot of.
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Imaginary Friend
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Oh wow. When we were living in the States we used to go to watch the preseason games because they were the only time we could watch the boys live without travelling transatlantic. But they were rubbish games, so I don't know who would want to watch them on TV. I haven't watched any of Chelsea's.
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Sir Kevin
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My Spurs scored first and came to a respectable 3-3 draw against the well-coached Seattle side. I wore rather a lot of the clothes I bought in England including a Spurs long-sleeved dress shirt in celebration. That was he only thing in my gear I did not get at Marks and Spencers or Clarks, other than my socks...
I've mislaid the ones British Airways gave me when they lost some of our luggage in 2007....
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Sir Kevin
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From the Grauniad:
[Copyrighted material removed.] [ 21. July 2014, 17:40: Message edited by: Imaginary Friend ]
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Imaginary Friend
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Sir Kevin, two separate points:
1. Please be aware that copying large amounts of text from a copyrighted source is against the Ship's policies. We don't need trouble from The Guardian's lawyers. In future, a link to an article would be much more appropriate.
2. As a stylistic note (rather than a legal one), these threads are supposed to be more about discussing sport than merely relaying news. Obviously there are times when those two will intersect, but in general, posts which move the discussion on are better than those that don't.
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LeRoc
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Darn! Groningen–Aberdeen 1–2.
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Ur lot was pretty good last night Sir Kevin.
You needed a DM in the second half which allowed enough space for our C team strikers to score.
Davies looked good.
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Oscar the Grouch
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SCK
What the hell is happening to the Saints? Has Katharina Liebherr gone down to the bookies and put the whole family inheritance on them getting relegated this season? Very disappointed.
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Imaginary Friend
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Yeah, I'd be pretty annoyed if I was Saints. I guess you'd better hope your academy is as good as everyone says it is. I reckon a few of your youngsters might be getting a go this year.
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South Coast Kevin
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quote: Originally posted by Oscar the Grouch: What the hell is happening to the Saints? Has Katharina Liebherr gone down to the bookies and put the whole family inheritance on them getting relegated this season? Very disappointed.
I'm concerned, obviously - troubling, uncertain times on the south coast. But, realistically, what could the Saints management do? Haven't they got a good price for all the players who've gone? I really rate Lovren, for example, and think he'll be great at Liverpool, but is he really a £20million player...?
This article sums up my feelings well. As long as Southampton do bring in several players (I'd be happy with most of those at the bottom of that article - Leroy Fer, Fraser Forster, Serge Gnabry, Vlad Chiriches and Lewis Holtby) and don't get ripped off due to the other clubs knowing Saints are loaded, then I think we'll finish comfortably around mid-table.
And, from what I hear, the academy is that good! So there should be a few top-notch young players who get their chance in the first team this season and, if they do as well as Shaw, Chambers and Ward-Prowse did in 2013-14, then Saints will be just fine.
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Oscar the Grouch
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quote: Originally posted by South Coast Kevin: quote: Originally posted by Oscar the Grouch: What the hell is happening to the Saints? Has Katharina Liebherr gone down to the bookies and put the whole family inheritance on them getting relegated this season? Very disappointed.
I'm concerned, obviously - troubling, uncertain times on the south coast. But, realistically, what could the Saints management do? Haven't they got a good price for all the players who've gone? I really rate Lovren, for example, and think he'll be great at Liverpool, but is he really a £20million player...?
This article sums up my feelings well. As long as Southampton do bring in several players (I'd be happy with most of those at the bottom of that article - Leroy Fer, Fraser Forster, Serge Gnabry, Vlad Chiriches and Lewis Holtby) and don't get ripped off due to the other clubs knowing Saints are loaded, then I think we'll finish comfortably around mid-table.
And, from what I hear, the academy is that good! So there should be a few top-notch young players who get their chance in the first team this season and, if they do as well as Shaw, Chambers and Ward-Prowse did in 2013-14, then Saints will be just fine.
Spoken like a True Believer! There's nothing like the optimism of a fan BEFORE the season has started. No goal conceded and anything is still possible.
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South Coast Kevin
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Ah, be fair. It wasn't that one-eyed, was it?
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Oscar the Grouch
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I can't really point the finger - I'm that person at this time of the year, every year.
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South Coast Kevin
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Aren't we all, Mr Grouch, aren't we all? Remind me which team you follow, though - my memory is failing me this morning!
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Sir Kevin
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Sorry IF, I should know better and take advice from a Shipmate with a background in IT like yourself to help me with links!
V. Happy my North London side had a healthy succession of two wins and a draw against USA in friendlies last month. That is what I meant to convey...
Glad North London Danny Rose, as opposed to a colorless historical figure who went by the name of Broadway Danny Rose, is with us permanently and that this brilliant back is no longer on loan elsewhere...
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Marvin the Martian
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quote: Originally posted by South Coast Kevin: Aren't we all, Mr Grouch, aren't we all? Remind me which team you follow, though - my memory is failing me this morning!
His avatar would appear to suggest Aldershot Town.
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South Coast Kevin
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Thanks MtM, I hadn't looked closely enough to spot that.
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Ad Orientem
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quote: Originally posted by Oscar the Grouch: quote: Originally posted by South Coast Kevin: quote: Originally posted by Oscar the Grouch: What the hell is happening to the Saints? Has Katharina Liebherr gone down to the bookies and put the whole family inheritance on them getting relegated this season? Very disappointed.
I'm concerned, obviously - troubling, uncertain times on the south coast. But, realistically, what could the Saints management do? Haven't they got a good price for all the players who've gone? I really rate Lovren, for example, and think he'll be great at Liverpool, but is he really a £20million player...?
This article sums up my feelings well. As long as Southampton do bring in several players (I'd be happy with most of those at the bottom of that article - Leroy Fer, Fraser Forster, Serge Gnabry, Vlad Chiriches and Lewis Holtby) and don't get ripped off due to the other clubs knowing Saints are loaded, then I think we'll finish comfortably around mid-table.
And, from what I hear, the academy is that good! So there should be a few top-notch young players who get their chance in the first team this season and, if they do as well as Shaw, Chambers and Ward-Prowse did in 2013-14, then Saints will be just fine.
Spoken like a True Believer! There's nothing like the optimism of a fan BEFORE the season has started. No goal conceded and anything is still possible.
That's the way it should be.
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Sir Kevin
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quote: Originally posted by Ad Orientem et al: Spoken like a True Believer! There's nothing like the optimism of a fan BEFORE the season has started. No goal conceded and anything is still possible. That's the way it should be.
I am v. optimistic that my side will keep up with the other sides and return to the top three for good. Yes, the new man really is as good as sliced bread! He bloody well proved it on the US tour!
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South Coast Kevin
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You're a Spurs fan aren't you, Sir Kevin? You've already poached our manager, can't you leave Schneiderlin and Rodriguez alone?! *Grumbles*
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LeRoc
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Aston Villa – Groningen 1–4!
Too bad it was only a friendly
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deano
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quote: Originally posted by LeRoc: Aston Villa – Groningen 1–4!
Too bad it was only a friendly
Was Vlaar playing or were they keeping him safe? If the latter then Villa can get ready for more results like that!
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Oscar the Grouch
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quote: Originally posted by South Coast Kevin: Aren't we all, Mr Grouch, aren't we all? Remind me which team you follow, though - my memory is failing me this morning!
The clue is in the Avatar!
(For those who can't make it out, it's Aldershot Town. Though I'm now cultivating an affection for my "local" MLS team - Vancouver Whitecaps, who have just drawn their 11th game out of 21 played.)
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Imaginary Friend
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They say Americans don't like draws, but apparently Canadians are absolutely fine with them!
Meanwhile, now that I've moved away from America's capital, DC United have gone from being last year's whipping boys to second in their conference with a game in hand. You're welcome, DC, and Vamos United!
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LeRoc
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quote: deano: Was Vlaar playing or were they keeping him safe?
He wasn't playing.
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Oscar the Grouch
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quote: Originally posted by Imaginary Friend: They say Americans don't like draws, but apparently Canadians are absolutely fine with them!
NY Red Bulls have drawn 10 times this season and Chicago Fire an amazing 13 times! I don't think I've ever seen a league table so dominated by draws.
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