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Mark Wuntoo
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As a non-theist I struggle a little with the fact that from ancient times humankind has needed a god / gods.
Was god always a creation of the human mind? Well, I suppose so.
But it’s strange to me that it seems to be a universal need to have a god with ‘whom’ to have some sort of relationship.
Why, apparently, do some of us not need a god?

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People need meaning and purpose to their lives, perhaps you have replaced faith with something else ?

[ 14. December 2014, 17:52: Message edited by: Doublethink. ]

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Mark Wuntoo
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quote:
Originally posted by Doublethink.:
People need meaning and purpose to their lives, perhaps you have replaced faith with something else ?

Yes, indeed.
I am still working on what it is that has replaced faith. At the moment I have little idea. But whatever it is, it will not be called GOD, I think. On the other hand, I have long held to the view that 'I know what I believe today but not what I will believe tomorrow' - which seems healthy to me.
It is intriguing to me that humankind usually focusses on this search for meaning as 'GOD' and I am not sure I understand why GOD has to have human attributes (though not always).

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As a non-theist, I think what people worshipped at the beginning was different than later. Many gods, some more powerful than others, most more powerful than humans. So you could see why your god didn't save you. That's different than trying to explain theodicy of an omniscient omnipotent god.
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Humans are pattern seekers - I suppose we're hardwired to try and find meaning even when there may not be any.

Our Gods have got bigger as our understanding of the patterns and the rules of the universe has got deeper. I think now maybe our patterns have got a bit big for the God we've had developing since early agriculture so we might not recognise 'God' as we have known it through the great world religions.

I don't think that 'God' or 'the sacred' has particularly changed. More our understanding of it and interpretation of how to fit that into our lives.

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Was god always a creation of the human mind? Well, I suppose so.
Well yes, but maybe only in the trivial sense that all concepts that we use are creations of the human mind. Some, like the Table of The Elements are well correlated to what is true about the world. Others, like phlogysten are not and die away.

So it is quite possible to be a theist and accept what you say, at least IMHO.

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Mark Wuntoo
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Originally posted by anteater:
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Was god always a creation of the human mind? Well, I suppose so.
Well yes, but maybe only in the trivial sense that all concepts that we use are creations of the human mind. ....
Naughty! You trivialise my profound and obviously factual truth! [Biased] [Biased]

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