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Firenze

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This post in Hell reminded me that there are some words or phrases that just seem to bleach all hope of fun from the world. To 'outlet' I would add 'function suite' - and indeed 'function'. 'Seminar', 'workshop' and 'training' never come freighted with a feeling of joy either (you can tell where I spent my working life). For the same reason, anything beginning 'Windows' or 'Word' have me looking for the exit.

It's not just the world of work - but home, family, church, the world of leisure - see, there's another one: 'amusements' and 'the x experience' are also coming rapidly to signify stuff to which chewing tinfoil would be a happy alternative.

What are your (least) favourites?

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Kelly Alves

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"networking"

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Brainstorm when used as a verb. In fact, any noun used as a verb.

"Facilitate" makes the Baby Jesus cry.

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"you guys;" "kids;" (aaaah worst of all); "breakout;" "discussion;" "at the end of the day;" "no offence but ..." and sadly "freighted"
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Kelly Alves

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Someone once scolded the word "utilize" out of me.

"Use." The word is "use."

And for some reason the kids are starting to throw around the word "conversate," which just makes me want to brain myself.

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"Mission action plan" or maybe "Risk assessment" to name but two.

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Going forward. A really stupid way of trying to sound like you have a plan.

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I second 'facilitate' and 'networking'.

'The [whatever] Experience'; 'strategy'; 'power point presentation'; 'stakeholders'; 'customers' when used instead of 'passengers' on the Tube.

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"Management of change", "hotdesk", "exciting opportunity".

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My name is Sioni Sais and I am a heart-sinking word user. I goes with my trade of business analysis, which is a heart-sinking term, but I have to facilitate workshops that can include brainstorming (though they shouldn't) and when issues arise that we can't handle we park them. We have 'breakouts' too but don't get me onto them, because they are a bloody menace. Actually there's hardly a term in business analysis and the whole of enterprise architecture that isn't heart-sinking.

Ah, yes. 'Overly', that's the one that makes my flesh creep. WTF is it for?

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Ina church setting "missional" and "intentional" are buzz words. When challenged the people using them can't define them.
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I work in primary school aged childcare in the school holidays and the government recently put in place a new 'quality standards framework'. This involved quite a bit of work, meetings in term-time and paperwork on our part so now I also dislike the words and phrases 'quality improvement plan', 'statement of philosophy' and 'learning story'. I also do not like 'minor incident reports' and 'risk assessments' and 'minor first aid forms' as we have to fill them in for every little thing. Though better than having to report a 'major incident'.

At least we were recently 'audited' and for all our hard work achieved 'exceeding standards' in all areas. I don't mind that phrase. [Smile]

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quote:
Originally posted by ExclamationMark:
"you guys;" "kids;" (aaaah worst of all); "breakout;" "discussion;" "at the end of the day;" "no offence but ..." and sadly "freighted"

This reminded me of a wonderful exchange with my older son apropos of naked selfies.

Niminypiminy: I can't imagine ever wanting to put a photo of myself naked on the internet for everyone to see.
Nimlet1: Well, no offence, Mum, but most people who do it aren't old and fat.
Niminypiminy: !!!!!!

My heart-sinking word is 'appropriate', especially in the mouths of babes and primary school children.

'Breakfast bar' and 'ensuite' used as a noun also make me die a little.

[ 18. October 2014, 09:49: Message edited by: Niminypiminy ]

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"I hear you but..."

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quote:
Originally posted by ExclamationMark:
Ina church setting "missional" and "intentional" are buzz words. When challenged the people using them can't define them.

"Mission statement" when used of a church often contains aims which are really unable to be measured to give any result at all.

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quote:
Originally posted by Spike:
Brainstorm when used as a verb. In fact, any noun used as a verb.

I love verbifying nouns and nounifying verbs.

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Role-play - as a business term, I understand it can be fun in other scenarios.

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quote:
Originally posted by ExclamationMark:
I na church setting "missional" and "intentional" are buzz words. When challenged the people using them can't define them.

That gets a [Overused] I agree.

As is 'being church' or virtually any use of 'church' without a definite or indefinite article. Likewise anything that refers to finding one's inner child.

I too don't like or get role plays. They only came along when I was already a fairly mature adult.

[ 18. October 2014, 11:22: Message edited by: Enoch ]

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"Agile working"

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The church is full of meaningless words that make my heart sink, because it indicates the people using them don't know what they are talking about. "Bible-based" is one. "seeking to be ..." - generally indicates something that is aspirational, but we will not put in the work to make it happen.

I work in IT, which is, of course, driven by buzz-words. We wouldn't survive without them (PMs, for example, would have to be silent).

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Originally posted by Bene Gesserit:
"Agile working"

This is one that irritates me. Everyone wants "agile development skills", but as every place implements these in totally different ways, it is meaningless. It is like asking for "computer skills" (which can be everything from knowing how to use word to begin able to develop software, to being confident to dismantle and rebuild a laptop.)

"Performant" is another one that gets me. It means nothing. Even when you turn it into "performing well" it is still meaningless, unless you add in what you actually mean.

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quote:
Originally posted by Enoch:
quote:
Originally posted by ExclamationMark:
I na church setting "missional" and "intentional" are buzz words. When challenged the people using them can't define them.

That gets a [Overused] I agree.


I agree, I agree. A former rector, whom I love dearly, but who came to the cloth after having a business career, bless his heart, got the vestry to approve this mission statement. Aaarrrgh!
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(My church)...is a loving Christ-filled family that provides an inclusive home of liturgy, music, outreach, and fellowship. We are a supportive place for change as we empower each other through the Holy Spirit to do God's work of social awareness, environmental consciousness, and spiritual growth. In thanksgiving for our abundance, we are called to serve the community. Come join us on the journey!
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Information Management System.

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"Proactive."

And the dreaded "human resources"--are you providing resources for humans or are you treating humans as resources? Either way, why are you distinguishing yourself from humans?

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Niminypiminy
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In a church context 'have a heart for' is always bad news.
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quote:
Originally posted by ExclamationMark:
Ina church setting "missional" and "intentional" are buzz words. When challenged the people using them can't define them.

It's easy. "Missional" means Holistic mission.

Aren't you glad I cleared that one up.

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A phrse that is widely used in my diocese t the moment is "mission shaped church". WTF is that even supposed to mean?

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quote:
Originally posted by ExclamationMark:
Ina church setting "missional" and "intentional" are buzz words. When challenged the people using them can't define them.

I second these nominations and put into play "collegial" and "team player." I've yet to meet a lead pastor who doesn't self describe as "collegial" but what they mean by that varies widely. They also all say they want a staff of "team players" which can mean anything from "I like input" to "I will punish people who criticize me".

[ 18. October 2014, 15:10: Message edited by: cliffdweller ]

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Kelly Alves

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quote:
Originally posted by Spike:
A phrse that is widely used in my diocese at the moment is "mission shaped church". WTF is that even supposed to mean?

Old pastor of mine used this phrase. Also talked about "baptizing" practices from other faiths. (Like Passover). Also talked about "utilizing our dollars." Would try to recruit folk to church positions and tell them to "go home, think on it, sleep on it, pray on it." ( which was not bad advice, but the way he put it it sounded like a catch phrase.)

[ 18. October 2014, 15:17: Message edited by: Kelly Alves ]

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Enoch
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quote:
Originally posted by Niminypiminy:
In a church context 'have a heart for' is always bad news.

I agree.
quote:
Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
Would try to recruit folk to church positions and tell them to "go home, think on it, sleep on it, pray on it."

Would I be right in suspecting there was a strongly implied message that God would tell them this was something they had to take on?

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quote:
Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
Would try to recruit folk to church positions and tell them to "go home, think on it, sleep on it, pray on it." ( which was not bad advice, but the way he put it it sounded like a catch phrase.)

Did any action ever follow all this consideration? There are churches and people who have been 'waiting on God' since the Bronze Age.

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Kelly Alves

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quote:
Originally posted by Enoch:
Would I be right in suspecting there was a strongly implied message that God would tell them this was something they had to take on?

Yeah, I forgot to add, whatever your prayerful reflection produced was incidental to what Pastor knew was right.

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The phrase "on the ground" used in any way but a completely literal one.
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Spike

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Hashtag. It's bad enough when people type a # before a word for #noreason but even more so when they say "hashtag" out loud. I put it in the same league as making quotation marks with your fingers when speaking.

[ 18. October 2014, 17:46: Message edited by: Spike ]

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Oh, yuck to all of these [Roll Eyes]

And a special yuck to 'I'd like to share with you...xyz' - why the hell not say 'I'd like to tell you about...'?

I hate 'implementation' too.

And 'Bible-believing'. What, as opposed to Mein Kampf?

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quote:
Originally posted by Lothlorien:
"I hear you but..."

"... I'm not going to listen to you" is the bit they forget to say!
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"In my humble opinion..."

Means I am right and you are and for ever will be wrong.

Hate hate hate hearing it. And all the other nasty little words and phrases quoted before.

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quote:
Originally posted by Spike:
making quotation marks with your fingers when speaking.

.... depends which way round the fingers are.

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"I'm telling you this as your friend."
Usually not very friendly, at all.

"There are going to be big changes."
Church again.

"We are re-evaluating."
...And more church. [Frown]

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quote:
Originally posted by Bene Gesserit:
"Agile working"

"hot-desking" - grr. Not content with housing workers in what is effectively a barn with stalls, five years later they move to not even letting you have your own stall...and they come up with this fancy phrase for it and think people will be sold on the idea.

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"Annual Appraisal".

Widely recognised as a charade by all participants except the incompetent buffoons in the HR department, who aren't even sufficiently on the ball to know whether the employees have worked their contracted hours or not.

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quote:
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The phrase "on the ground" used in any way but a completely literal one.

Or the use of "literally" when in fact you mean the complete opposite.

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'veg' as in 'grow your own' or 'fruit and ---'


'pot' when used in the deplorable 'pension pot'.


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no prophet's flag is set so...

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I can't come to terms to arguably the most innovative ministry anyone has ever been gifted and inspirational to share, which if not stirred in our souls means we have hearts of stone. I'll pray for you. Big hugs to all of you.

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Cottontail

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"We must step out of our comfort zone."

I remember a silent internal scream at that one once, which went along the lines of "The last time I was in my effing 'comfort zone' was 1999. I would love to have just a few moments back in my comfort zone."

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quote:
Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
"networking"

And its vomitous cousin, "team building"

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Evangeline
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This is sending shivers down my spine. Years ago I had to write an annual report for the most inept, waster of public funds ever and all I could do was pile weasel word upon weasel word-took me years to garner back my self-respect. So much "committed to", "working towards.....outcomes", and "engaging stakeholders" . [Projectile]
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chive

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I am running a battle at work against the use of the term 'tasking' which means 'asking'. The t is utterly unrequired and makes the user into a wanker as I have pointed out repeatedly.

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'Edward was the kind of man who thought there was no such thing as a lesbian, just a woman who hadn't done one-to-one Bible study with him.' Catherine Fox, Love to the Lost

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