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Thread: Saysay take your self-righteous bullshit straight to Hell
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mousethief
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Originally posted by saysay:
I'm not OK with imposing serious criminal penalties on people for their failure to be psychic. You are.
So be it.
Don't you EVER tell me what I think again. Fuck you and the high horse you ride around on.
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Link, pls? Thx.
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Kelly Alves
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Oh, and thank you, saysay, for cherry- bombing a fascinating discussion with your unrelated hobbyhorses. Not everything in the world is directly about fucking Title IX.
On that subject, if any of my nieces heard you say that their school soccer clubs were symptoms of the subjugation of men, they would make a pinata of your avatar and kick it into unrecognizable shreds. And then hand those over to their very proud brothers. Who would use it to make a collage that said, WE LOVE OUR TURF-SHREDDING SISTERS.
(Why you all took the bait, I don't know. ![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif)
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Soror Magna
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And then there was thi:
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Originally posted by saysay:
... No wonder that they locked me in a cage and forced me to pee in front of men that I didn't know in order to enforce a writ from nowhere.
Sayshit
My first thought was, "My, what an interesting sex life you have." My second thought was, "OMG is Curious Buddhist back?"
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Mere Nick
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Originally posted by mousethief:
Fuck you and the high horse you ride around on.
Call Cameron. Maybe he's game.
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saysay
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Originally posted by mousethief:
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Originally posted by saysay:
I'm not OK with imposing serious criminal penalties on people for their failure to be psychic. You are.
So be it.
Don't you EVER tell me what I think again. Fuck you and the high horse you ride around on.
OK, if you'd like me to know what you think about this case instead of trying to read in to what little you did say about it, why don't you try telling me what you think? Try using words other than 'stupid' and 'irrelevant.' Try to avoid quoting bogus campus rape statistics.
Go on, then.
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Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
Oh, and thank you, saysay, for cherry- bombing a fascinating discussion with your unrelated hobbyhorses. Not everything in the world is directly about fucking Title IX.
I wasn't the one who first linked to that particular case. Nor was I the first to respond. So sorry (not sorry) that I find it difficult to remain silent in the face of injustice and the presumption of guilt just because someone belongs to a particular demographic.
I'm obviously not that hard to ignore.
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On that subject, if any of my nieces heard you say that their school soccer clubs were symptoms of the subjugation of men, they would make a pinata of your avatar and kick it into unrecognizable shreds. And then hand those over to their very proud brothers. Who would use it to make a collage that said, WE LOVE OUR TURF-SHREDDING SISTERS.
Oh, right, because we were talking about school soccer clubs, not the criminal court proceedings that are not only the logical endgame of a certain type of thinking but which are actually happening and being reported upon by (formerly reliable) sources such as the New York Times.
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Originally posted by Soror Magna:
My first thought was, "My, what an interesting sex life you have." My second thought was, "OMG is Curious Buddhist back?"
Good thing you're a bitch without a shred of credibility (at least to me, which I'm sure you don't care about) if you think I was describing my (voluntary) sex life rather than what the fucking goons in the government did because "procedure." If you listened to anyone except your own entitlement you'd understand the problem I'm describing.
OTOH, remind me not to tell you my name in case you want to charge me with hurting your delicate academic Canadian feelings.
You are quite possibly the most hateful human being I've ever had the misfortune of encountering.
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Saysay is well balanced in a way, with chips on both shoulders.
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Soror Magna
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Really? I waste a few electrons on you and I'm more hateful than the guys you played golden showers with? Or the middle-aged white women you keep claiming are persecuting you? Either you have the attention span of a demented Alzheimer's patient, or your scale of hatefulness is inversely logarithmic.
ETA: And you've got the wrong end of the Canadian stick. Canadians apologize when other people hurt our feelings. Like, if someone bumps into me, I'm the one who says "sorry".
[ 23. September 2015, 21:42: Message edited by: Soror Magna ]
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Doublethink.
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Saysay, if you mean overcrowded jail cell, why don't you just *say* over crowded jail cell ? Or someone watched me pee because they wanted to test me for drugs, and they had no just cause to do so.
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LeRoc
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Soror Magna: or your scale of hatefulness is inversely logarithmic.
I didn't really follow this discussion, but this one is good.
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cliffdweller
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Originally posted by Soror Magna:
Really? I waste a few electrons on you and I'm more hateful than the guys you played golden showers with? Or the middle-aged white women you keep claiming are persecuting you? Either you have the attention span of a demented Alzheimer's patient, or your scale of hatefulness is inversely logarithmic.
I'm feeling neglecting having been knocked off of the top spot. : (
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mousethief
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What has the Queen ever done for us?
Aging Parents
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Originally posted by saysay:
OK, if you'd like me to know what you think about this case instead of trying to read in to what little you did say about it, why don't you try telling me what you think?
Read the OP again. It doesn't say I want you to know what I think. It says I want you to stop TELLING me what I think. That's pretty common decency, actually. Although perhaps you're uncommonly indecent.
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Try to avoid quoting bogus campus rape statistics.
I don't believe I quoted ANY campus rape statistics. Because I don't KNOW any campus rape statistics. Can you link me to a post where I quoted campus rape statistics?
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mousethief
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Oops sorry about the FLP (or FCP) there. Using the same editor to store two different bits of information. Bad plan.
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orfeo
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Originally posted by Soror Magna:
And then there was thi:
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Originally posted by saysay:
... No wonder that they locked me in a cage and forced me to pee in front of men that I didn't know in order to enforce a writ from nowhere.
Sayshit
My first thought was, "My, what an interesting sex life you have." My second thought was, "OMG is Curious Buddhist back?"
I've taken to just ignoring all of her unverifiable heavily dramatized anecdotes. It saves time and energy.
It's basically the equivalent of all those women's magazines that have shocking headlines on the cover to get you to buy, with boring content inside. Things like "HAVE ANGELINA AND BRAD FINALLY SPLIT?" to which you eventually discover the answer is "no".
[ 24. September 2015, 03:58: Message edited by: orfeo ]
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Tubbs
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Originally posted by Doublethink.:
Saysay, if you mean overcrowded jail cell, why don't you just *say* over crowded jail cell ? Or someone watched me pee because they wanted to test me for drugs, and they had no just cause to do so.
But where's the fun in that in providing a simple explanation of something that happened when you can post a convuluted description that makes No Sense. At All.
Tubbs
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saysay
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Originally posted by Soror Magna:
Really? I waste a few electrons on you and I'm more hateful than the guys you played golden showers with? Or the middle-aged white women you keep claiming are persecuting you? Either you have the attention span of a demented Alzheimer's patient, or your scale of hatefulness is inversely logarithmic.
You're not stupid enough to think this is an acceptable paraphrase of anything I've ever said.
Thus, it must be deliberate.
Deliberate meanness is worse than general chaos, etc., etc.
And there's nothing I can appeal to to make you stop.
That's how it goes.
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cliffdweller
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Originally posted by saysay:
quote:
Originally posted by Soror Magna:
Really? I waste a few electrons on you and I'm more hateful than the guys you played golden showers with? Or the middle-aged white women you keep claiming are persecuting you? Either you have the attention span of a demented Alzheimer's patient, or your scale of hatefulness is inversely logarithmic.
You're not stupid enough to think this is an acceptable paraphrase of anything I've ever said.
This sound familiar?
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Originally posted by saysay:
You are quite possibly the most hateful human being I've ever had the misfortune of encountering.
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Kelly Alves
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Honestly, saysay hating you seemsto be a litmus test of cool.
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mousethief
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Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
Honestly, saysay hating you seems to be a litmus test of sanity.
Fixed that for you.
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lilBuddha
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I don't hate saysay. But then I've no claim to either cool or sanity.
Though I do think someone melted the lenses of the specs she wears.
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orfeo
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Originally posted by saysay:
You are quite possibly the most hateful human being I've ever had the misfortune of encountering.
I'd like to thank Soror Magna and cliffdweller for highlighting this great big bowl of hyper.
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If you have a genuine issue with some inequality in the world and your story helps illustrate it tell your story and hope by telling it you can change something.
If you bullshit not only are you undermining yourself and your issues, you're undermining the stories of everyone else who has a similar issue. By doing so you devalue what other people have to say and make them less believable.
Net result - you make things worse for yourself and others in the same position. Fundamentally that makes you a cuntiefuckpig and someone who by their own actions undermines, devalues and pisses all over the people you pretend you're defending. Twat.
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Saysay is one of those people that you think you might agree with, or at least agree had a valid point, sort of, if only she'd actually relate her examples and experiences rather than obliquely refer to them in a way that would only make sense if you had a clue what she was going on about.
Either relate the tales or shut up about them. This in-between pointless allusion is, well, pointless.
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Originally posted by Karl: Liberal Backslider:
Either relate the tales or shut up about them.
You don't understand Karl. He made me lie back in a chair, then he forced his hand into my mouth and asked me if I had any plans for the summer.
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Sioni Sais
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For years I have thought that I have been too stupid to understand what Saysay was on about. Now I realise I was playing with a full deck after all and Saysay wasn't explaining everything (or indeed, anything).
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Add me to the list of people who often have no idea what saysay is referring to. I remember one occasion when she was talking about some woman having a private force of "goons" to set on people - but what it turned out she meant was that the woman had made a complaint to the police, and that they (possibly because of some set of sex/race/class biases) had been too inclined to believe the complaint and to over-react. I don't doubt that saysay thought it was obvious that she was talking about the police from the outset, but it wasn't.
In the instant case, I have no real idea whether saysay thinks it right that someone who is alleged to have had sex with a person who clearly said "no", but did not use actual violence to compel them, should be charged with rape. Clearly there is a real discussion to be had about that (to which the conclusion ought to be "yes, because if that can be proved, it is rape") but it would be impossible to have that discussion with saysay because it is completely unclear whether she is objecting to the prosecution because she thinks the defendant didn't do anything wrong on the alleged facts, or because she thinks that the legal process is so irredeemably corrupt that it cannot be trusted in this sort of case. You could have a discussion with someone who holds either view, but not with someone unwilling or unable to differentiate between them.
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Golden Key
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Some of what she said *almost* sounded like "boys will be boys", but I don't think she meant it that way.
I hope not, anyway.
From a previous, rather tangled and intense discussion, she may be coming from experience/perception that a lot of young men are jailed unnecessarily or wrongly. (Often the case for African-Americans.) So she may be inclined to believe that's what's going on in the campus rape case.
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Twilight
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Originally posted by orfeo:
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Originally posted by saysay:
You are quite possibly the most hateful human being I've ever had the misfortune of encountering.
I'd like to thank Soror Magna and cliffdweller for highlighting this great big bowl of hyper.
Well Soror Magna did tell Saysay to "fuck off and die," which tops my list of hateful things to say. But then I like Saysay, so we know what that makes me.
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Soror Magna
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Wrong, Dimlight, I told Russ the homophobe to fuck off and die.
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Kelly Alves
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Originally posted by lilBuddha:
I don't hate saysay. But then I've no claim to either cool or sanity.
Though I do think someone melted the lenses of the specs she wears.
I didn't say anything about hating her. She tends to beat one to the punch on that.
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cliffdweller
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Indeed. On my worst day, I don't think I would have the emotional reserves to summon up the degree of furious hate that saysay is capable of. She seems to have a bottomless well to draw from. There's something goin' on there, but dang if I know what.
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lilBuddha
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Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
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Originally posted by lilBuddha:
I don't hate saysay. But then I've no claim to either cool or sanity.
Though I do think someone melted the lenses of the specs she wears.
I didn't say anything about hating her. She tends to beat one to the punch on that.
You know what is weird? When I read your comment, I read it correctly. When I read mt's, I read it backwards. And that is when I commented
But you are correct, she does project a lot of anger.
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Twilight
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Originally posted by Soror Magna:
Wrong, Dimlight, I told Russ the homophobe to fuck off and die.
Oops, sorry. I followed your very own "sayshit," link and it took me right to those words.
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Kelly Alves
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Originally posted by cliffdweller:
Indeed. On my worst day, I don't think I would have the emotional reserves to summon up the degree of furious hate that saysay is capable of. She seems to have a bottomless well to draw from. There's something goin' on there, but dang if I know what.
Agreed. The key word is "reserves." What the hell are you trying to protect yourself from to expend so much energy being antagonistic?
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Palimpsest
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Originally posted by cliffdweller:
Indeed. On my worst day, I don't think I would have the emotional reserves to summon up the degree of furious hate that saysay is capable of. She seems to have a bottomless well to draw from. There's something goin' on there, but dang if I know what.
Have you noticed that you're in the middle of a thread about anything at all, and in storms Saysay with the attitude that the thread should be about her and her experiences? Out comes the tales of hard to believe persecution that have nothing to do with the topic of the thread.
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