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St. Gwladys
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A young friend of ours has PKU - she is protein intolerant. As we use home made bread at communion, she just takes the wine. It was suggested that she might be able to have gluten free wafers, but I can't find any nutritional information for them. Can anyone help or make any reasonable suggestions as to how we can accommodate her?
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ThunderBunk
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Which denomination is involved? I could take this very hellish if you're dealing with the Roman Catholic church in this respect.
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Pangolin Guerre
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I note that you are in Oz, but web page might be of some assistance, as some of the Anglican churches in the Diocese of Toronto offer gluten-free wafers.
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Pangolin Guerre
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TB is correct. RC wafers must contain some wheat.
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Leorning Cniht
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quote: Originally posted by St. Gwladys: A young friend of ours has PKU - she is protein intolerant. Can anyone help or make any reasonable suggestions as to how we can accommodate her?
Gluten-free bread still contains phenylalanine.
PKU patients are, AIUI, usually permitted a small quantity of phenylalanine-containing protein, so it may be OK for her to take a small morsel of your normal bread.
She should discuss this with her doctor - PKU diets are pretty strict. This is not something you want to play "I read on the internet" games with.
Alternatively, she may have prescription low-protein bread as part of her diet. I see no particular reason why she couldn't provide a small quantity to be consecrated for her.
I don't know whether low-protein bread passes muster under the RC rules. It's typically made with wheat starch, so it might be OK. But the OP is probably not RC, so this is a moot point. [ 16. February 2017, 21:30: Message edited by: Leorning Cniht ]
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ThunderBunk
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The ones I can find so far seem all to be pretty high protein, looking at the flours included - even the ones which have no wheat at all. Before John Paul II had his fit of artificial authenticity, the RC ones used to be made of rice, which would have suited this person far better, I believe, but I can't now find any rice-based communion wafers on sale. If you can, they may be useful.
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Leorning Cniht
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quote: Originally posted by Graven Image: Perhaps this is what you are looking for. special diet wafers.
Those are low-gluten, not low-phenylalanine. There's no point getting those for someone with PKU, as they don't address her issue. I don't think the rice-and-potato ones improve on wheat for someone with PKU. [ 16. February 2017, 22:12: Message edited by: Leorning Cniht ]
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Gee D
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quote: Originally posted by Pangolin Guerre: I note that you are in Oz, but web page might be of some assistance, as some of the Anglican churches in the Diocese of Toronto offer gluten-free wafers.
St. Gwladys is in South Wales, not New South Wales - 20K or so km difference.
The young friend really needs to talk with her doctor and see just what she's capable of taking. One of our congregation is protein intolerant, but still takes the wafer; that's not to say that such a course is suitable for others though.
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Pangolin Guerre
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Oooh... read too quickly.... that was embarrassing.
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Golden Key
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I did a web search on "+pku communion wafer", and got several hits. (Including this thread!)
Tangent: in trying various search terms, I found that Amazon actually carries communion wafers!
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Gee D
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quote: Originally posted by Pangolin Guerre: Oooh... read too quickly.... that was embarrassing.
Face as red as the evening sun on a hot summer's day then!
The really important point is that St. Gwladys's friend speaks to her doctor for advice, not just friends - let alone those of us 20K km away.
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ThunderBunk
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quote: Originally posted by Gee D: quote: Originally posted by Pangolin Guerre: Oooh... read too quickly.... that was embarrassing.
Face as red as the evening sun on a hot summer's day then!
The really important point is that St. Gwladys's friend speaks to her doctor for advice, not just friends - let alone those of us 20K km away.
Assuming that said friend has access to a doctor who knows enough about the subject to do more than utter platitudes or attempt to refer her to an inaccessible specialist, I agree.
Real knowledge about such things is still thin on the ground in these parts, from my experience. Different part of the UK admittedly, and these things can be utterly random.
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Gee D
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Well yes, but as the friend has been diagnosed she presumably has access to advice - if she lives in the Rhymney Valley it's only a short trip into Cardiff. Even ou at Norwich aren't far from London and I'd imagine that there's a pretty good rail service.
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St. Gwladys
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She has regular checks on her blood chemistry. I'll suggest she speak to her consultant, but just wondered if anyone else has come across this situation?
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