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Sarasa
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What authors (either living or dead) would you invite to a dinner party?
I'm reading Nutshell by Ian McEwan at the moment, and there is something about the authorial voice that makes me think I wouldn't like the guy if we met. On the other hand I think I would enjoy an afternoon in Elizabeth Gaskell's company.
From the McEwans I've read, there seems to be something closed in and mean about him, whereas Gaskell seems to be generous and have a sense of humour.
It's not just personalities. I've sure Evelyn Waugh could be vile, but I also think he might be entertaining, at least for a short while.
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I get the impression that Elizabeth Gaskell was an amusing, intelligent and humane person, if a bit proper. So yes.
I'd love to hear Evelyn Waugh at somebody else's party but I'd be hesitant of inviting him chez moi.
I'd be terrified of Jane Austen. I'd be bored by George Eliot.
But I'd love to entertain Barbara Pym.
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I think I'd like to see how different authors interact with one another. For example, two writers I like, who were contemporaries of one another, yet radically different, are Thomas Hardy and H.P. Lovecraft. They might hate each other, but it would be wonderful to see what possible collaborations they might come up with.
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Firenze
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I would love to meet Jane Austen, but I doubt we would get on politically, she was very much a High Tory.
Shakespeare would be one of these people it would be difficult to draw out: he would give polite, deflective answers and withdraw into the wallpaper the better to watch and listen.
John Donne, in his young days, would obviously be a hot date.
But for a girls' night in I'd chose Margaret Oliphant. After a bottle of Chilean Merlot and a good bitch we'd rise, tie on the bonnets, tight wrap the shawls and go back to holding our worlds together.
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Evangeline
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I am swooning already at the idea of meeting a young John Donne.
I'd like to talk religion, women's rights and the CofE with Charlotte Bronte over a good bottle of red.
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Kaplan Corday
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Originally posted by Sarasa:
What authors (either living or dead) would you invite to a dinner party?
Living.
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I'd like John Donne for an intimate dinner a deux, rather than a dinner party.... ![[Hot and Hormonal]](icon_redface.gif)
I'd love to observe Jane Austen at a dinner party. Also, Thomas and Jane Carlyle, just to see how they behaved with each other. I think Nan Shepherd would be good company.
First choice would be my very distant relative, Lorna Moon, who left north east Scotland for the glamour of Hollywood and led a quite scandalous life with aplomb.
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betjemaniac
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I think mine could make up either the dinner party from heaven or from hell...
Patrick Leigh Fermor
Graham Greene
Evelyn Waugh
Patrick Hamilton
John Betjeman
Julian Maclaren-Ross
Anthony Powell
roast beef, and a *lot* of claret, possibly in the Coffee Room at the Army and Navy Club.
There's always been something about mid 20th century writers that has drawn me in. The above is a fairly combustible mix, but it would be one hell of a night.
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Sipech
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Anyone for a curry night with Rudyard Kipling, Winston Churchill, Salman Rushdie & Arundhati Roy?
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betjemaniac
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Originally posted by Sipech:
Anyone for a curry night with Rudyard Kipling, Winston Churchill, Salman Rushdie & Arundhati Roy?
yes, so long as it's not the night after mine, very much in!
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Originally posted by Sipech:
Anyone for a curry night with Rudyard Kipling, Winston Churchill, Salman Rushdie & Arundhati Roy?
To that list can I add William Dalrymple? I think he would leaven that mix rather nicely.
Dalrymple would also fit well with John Keay, Gavin Young & Alexander Frater - a travel correspondents night out!
I think Voltaire would be great at a dinner party [if my own French was better], but who to invite with him? Perhaps Jonathan Swift?
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Ariel
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Yeats. And Shelley (which means cooking vegetarian food). And I have questions I want to ask Shakespeare.
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Lyda*Rose
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Originally posted by Ariel:
Yeats. And Shelley (which means cooking vegetarian food). And I have questions I want to ask Shakespeare.
Like: Did you yourself really write all that stuff? ![[Two face]](graemlins/scot_twoface.gif)
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Hilda of Whitby
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Alan Bennett, without question.
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Brenda Clough
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I have a weakness for people who froze to death in Antarctica, and would love to dine with Robert Falcon Scott. Jane Austen would probably go all mim on any American, but I bet Charles Dickens would be convivial -- we need him to mix up some of his famous punch. Dorothy Sayers!
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Dafyd
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Samuel Coleridge I gather talked like an angel, which was just as well as he kept talking.
Dickens I think might be a bit the same.
I'd like to invite Marilynn Robinson and Ali Smith. And Terry Pratchett and WH Auden.
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Og, King of Bashan
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I have always thought that Oscar Wilde could go one way or another. He'd either be the most entertaining person at the party, or the guy who needs to shut up with the one liners so that everyone can listen to Tennyson.
How about a night of cowboy food (steak and beans), beer, and bourbon with Larry McMurtry, Jim Harrison, and Cormac McCarthy? Definitely a dude-centric lineup, which I'm not entirely happy with, but it would be fun.
I'd also like to sit down for beer, wings, and football with George Plimpton, Buzz Bissinger, and Hunter Thompson.
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I would love to meet Arundhati Roy - The God of Small Things still comes up in conversation in my writers groups. And sorry Sipech, but Salman Rushdie I find boring, so I wouldn't join the whole party.
Umberto Eco, who would probably make me feel like an uneducated moron, but in a nice way. And Douglas Coupland, who I suspect I would get on with very well.
John Wyndham as well, probably over coffee to discuss time and possibility.
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Robertson Davies. He wrote a series of wonderful interwoven trilogies that seem Jungian to me, and is the finest Canadian author of the 20th century in my view.
E. Pauline Johnson (Tekahionwake), Mohawk-Canadian poet.
Patrick O'Brian. Writer of early 19th century naval adventures.
William Shirer. War correspondent and writer of Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, books about Tolstoy, Gandhi, and the remarkable 3 volume "Twentieth Century Journey" an autobiography which seems to speak of yesterday and the present.
Emile Zola. Can more be said?
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Sipech
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Originally posted by Schroedinger's cat:
I would love to meet Arundhati Roy - The God of Small Things still comes up in conversation in my writers groups. And sorry Sipech, but Salman Rushdie I find boring, so I wouldn't join the whole party.
I don't deny that. Midnight's Children was a dreadful book. But it might be interesting to see the flow/contrast of ideas on imperialism in India, with he and Roy on one side, Churchill & Kipling on the other.
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Ariel
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Originally posted by Lyda*Rose:
quote:
Originally posted by Ariel:
Yeats. And Shelley (which means cooking vegetarian food). And I have questions I want to ask Shakespeare.
Like: Did you yourself really write all that stuff?
I was thinking more of "So what else did you write and do you have any copies?".
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Albertus
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Originally posted by Og, King of Bashan:
I have always thought that Oscar Wilde could go one way or another.
I believe some people thought that at the time. ![[Biased]](wink.gif)
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Pigwidgeon
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Definitely William Shakespeare. There's no other author I'd fly around the world to see his plays.
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Og, King of Bashan
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Originally posted by no prophet's flag is set so...:
Robertson Davies. He wrote a series of wonderful interwoven trilogies that seem Jungian to me, and is the finest Canadian author of the 20th century in my view.
Oh, that's a good one. No one could make the most disgusting and grotesque images in the world seem like pure poetry like Davies.
One scene I remember (from "The Rebel Angels," I think,) has a biologist positively and convincingly arguing that human shit is a form of art.
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Callan
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Gore Vidal, Albert Camus, Thomas Babington Macaulay, Sidney Smith, AJP Taylor.
With the proviso that they all get to spend some time reading up how things have gone since they shuffled off this mortal coil.
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Pigwidgeon
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Gore Vidal...
I met his brother (an Anglican priest) a number of years ago. For some reason he was wandering around the grounds of the church where I worked at the time. He introduced himself as "Vance Vidal, Gore Vidal's brother." I was thinking I should introduce myself as XXX XXX's sister. It struck me as very odd that his only identity was through his well-known brother.
(I just looked him up on Wikipedia -- they were actually half-brothers.)
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ArachnidinElmet
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On evidence of readings/seeing interviews I'd say Iain Banks, Ursula le Guin, Neil Gaiman, Simon Armitage, Zora Neale Hurston & Naomi Mitchison (maybe Warren Ellis if we had an outdoor table and an ashtray). Not just because I enjoy their work, but because I think they might enjoy each other's company.
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Brenda Clough
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Le Guin and Gaiman are alive, and I have met them -- they are lovely people.
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Sarasa
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Firenze said:
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But for a girls' night in I'd chose Margaret Oliphant. After a bottle of Chilean Merlot and a good bitch we'd rise, tie on the bonnets, tight wrap the shawls and go back to holding our worlds together.
If we're having that sort of girls night in, can I come along with the aforementioned Elizabeth Gaskell and also bring Emily Eden . Her two novels are among my favourite comfort reads, and as she was close to the political scene of the day, there could be some interesting gossip.
As for authors I've actually met, I invited one of my favourites, Diana Wynne Jones, to a school I used to work in. I sat on the floor of the drama teacher's van on the way back to the station so I could talk to her some more.
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OMG, Sarasa. And she is gone -- Jones was one of those authors who should have lived forever, and write a book a year.
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Pigwidgeon
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Originally posted by Sipech:
Anyone fancy a tête-à-tête with the 2016 winner of the Nobel Prize for Literature? I did not see that one coming.
I'd love to! I did see him in person several years ago, but would love to join your dinner party with him.
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Dead: The late Father Andrew M. Greeley. I hope he wouldn't talk about women's breasts a lot, though. Gets tedious.
Alive: Daryl Gregory who wrote one of my favorite books thus far in my 49 years on this planet, "Afterparty". Excellent, excellent book.
I am coming off some medicinal marijuana at the moment and can barely spell or concentrate on stringing the proper words and letters together. I'm off for a long sleep.
I'm sure I will have many other authors to share, once I've "sobered" up.
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Sandemaniac
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I'd go for Diana Wynne-Jones (spelling?), mostly because her grandparents lived in my parent's village, but I'm buggered if I can work out who they were.
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ArachnidinElmet
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Originally posted by Brenda Clough:
Le Guin and Gaiman are alive, and I have met them -- they are lovely people.
As are Ellis and Armitage. A friend met Simon Armitage a couple of times, he's local-ish and often does readings; she thought very highly of him.
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Firenze
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Originally posted by Sarasa:
and also bring Emily Eden . Her two novels are among my favourite comfort reads,
I've downloaded The Semi Detached House. So far it seems mainly about mocking rich, vulgar Jews. But perhaps it picks up later.
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I wish I'd met Terry Pratchett. From reading his output, he seems to have had an almost identical education to mine!
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Dafyd wrote:
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I'd like to invite Marilynn Robinson
Me too - but having read some of her non-fiction, I know that I need more time to enjoy it than it would take her to think it / say it. So maybe you'd allow me to take an audio feed from the dinner party and digest it off-line. I could be an unseen guest a little like the DDR surveillance officer in 'The Lives of Others'.
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Brenda Clough
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This kind of thought always raises up caveats in my mind. There has to be an app or a feature, to get us past language barriers, for instance. Would we understand Shakespeare, without it? Certainly you would need it to get anything out of a meeting with Martin Luther or Socrates (both great dinner companions by all report).
And while we're at it the app should get us past racial and cultural barriers. There are too many authors of the past, who would not sit at table with a person of different race or gender or even nationality. Dickens and Trollope toured America, but didn't like Americans (insufficiently deferential).
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Sipech
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Some of the tensions/prejudices might serve up some interesting conversations. Imagine inviting Hitler along to be confronted by the likes of Gore Vidal, Martin Luther King Jr and Maya Angelou.
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What Dickens didn't like about Americans was their hypocritical racism when going on about freedom.
Anthony Trollope's mother, Fanny, wrote a book about Americans. I don't think her son did,
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Brenda Clough
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Trollope is on record, in his letters, complaining about how Americans served him.
I wrote a book once about Lawrence 'Titus' Oates, and to that end read everything extant about him, both his own writings and those of others. I became uneasily aware than an Edwardian gentleman would be unlikely to approve of me (wrong race, wrong nationality, wrong gender). And I had a dream.
In my dream he looked as he does in the photo on the Wikipedia page. All he did was stare at me; no conversation was exchanged. But I knew, as one does, that this was the true man -- the historical person, not the fictional construct or the fellow in the history books. And I knew that he did not want me to write about him. If I continued, I would have to answer for it some day. He would meet me at the Pearly Gates, a riding crop in hand. I woke up with quite a nasty start.
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ArachnidinElmet
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Not sure about erasing cultural differences, but for languages maybe we should be using Babel Fish ?
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P.G. Wodehouse.
Patrick O'Brian.
And an author I've always thought would be a great dinner companion, especially for a dinner that goes on late into the evening: Herodotus! I imagine he would be so entertaining (I recommend the Histories to students as beach reading). And to make the conversation flow more easily (and to ask the man questions I wouldn't have thought of), some modern scholar, such as the late J.K. "Jock" Anderson. ![[Votive]](graemlins/votive.gif)
I also want to meet Manetho (early third century BC), author of the Aegyptiaca , whose dynastic outline we still use today, but whose work survives only in summaries made by later historians. Where did he do his research? What king-lists did he consult? What about the stories that didn't make it into the fragments preserved today? How accurate are those summaries? I would be happy to buy him all the bread and beer, beef and fowl, that he desires!
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P.G. Wodehouse...
How could I have forgotten Plum?
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I read a biography of Plum which reckoned he was not very brilliant as a conversationalist or socialite and preferred a quiet life in his own home.
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venbede
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I love Elizabeth David's grande dame bitchiness in her journalism, but I would be wary of her company (although she did get on with gay men).
But I would love, love, love to help Jane Grigson prepare a meal and then sit down to eat it with her and friends. She comes over as really nice. And when she criticises dubious attitudes to food, it is more in sorrow than in anger.
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Both dead, alas, but:
1. Wilkie Collins, younger contemporary and friend of Dickens. Collins invented wonderful devices for murdering his characters, and actually built at least one...to see if it would work ![[Eek!]](eek.gif)
2. Jerome K. Jerome, a man with a very dry and witty approach to life, but who (in his late 50s) served as an ambulance driver in WW1.
Living?
J. K. Rowling (Harry Potter)
2. Peter Robinson (Chief Inspector Banks)
Ian J.
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