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SpongeBob ... is seen as an icon for adult gay men in the US, apparently because he regularly holds hands with his sidekick Patrick.

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WAFF spokesman Mark Barondeso told the newspaper that anyone who thought the video promoted homosexuality "needs to visit their doctor and get their medication increased".

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A more Ship-like response I can't imagine
 

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Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
Oh no!

When I minded Left At the Altar's children on Saturday night they forced me to watch a SpongeBob movie with them. Do you suppose I'm scarred for life?

(I thought the hand-holding was kind of cute.)

Huia
 

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Posted by Laura (# 10) on :
 
I saw this on the Today show this morning (which I only watch while running. It makes the exercise seem less painful by comparison.) I yelled at the screen, "The Video promotes tolerance of differences in general!! Not acceptance of homosexuality! Jesus might even have approved! You have a Bible, look it up!"

[ 21. January 2005, 12:59: Message edited by: Laura ]
 

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Posted by Amos (# 44) on :
 
Shades of Tinky-winky's handbag!
 

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Posted by Henry Troup (# 3722) on :
 
Back in 1999, Jerry Falwell went on about Teletubbies in the same vein.

(cross-posted with Amos)

[ 21. January 2005, 13:10: Message edited by: Henry Troup ]
 

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Posted by cocktailgirl (# 8684) on :
 
And even Noddy got censored a few years ago, because he slept in the same bed as Big Ears.

What sort of bizarre moral universe do these people inhabit that they see so-called sexual deviancy everywhere? They are well and truly obsessed.
 

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Posted by Amos (# 44) on :
 
Sleeping with Big Ears is deviant behaviour. You have to draw the line somewhere.

[ 21. January 2005, 13:21: Message edited by: Amos ]
 

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Posted by Cheesy* (# 3330) on :
 
I hold hands and skip down the street (with my four year old). What does that make me? Or does it only apply to cartoon characters?

C
 

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Posted by Off Centre View (# 4254) on :
 

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Originally posted by Amos:
Sleeping with Big Ears is deviant behaviour. You have to draw the line somewhere.

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Camilla Parker Bowles?
 

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Posted by JohnBoot (# 3566) on :
 

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SpongeBob ... is seen as an icon for adult gay men in the US, apparently because he regularly holds hands with his sidekick Patrick.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Cheesy*:
I hold hands and skip down the street (with my four year old). What does that make me? Or does it only apply to cartoon characters?

C

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Obviously, you must be a pedophile. Holding hands with children is definitely always sexual in nature. Next time I see a group of young school kids holding hands with their "buddies" I plan to tell them just how disgusting they are being.

[ 21. January 2005, 14:23: Message edited by: Qestia ]
 

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Posted by Sioni Sais (# 5713) on :
 

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Originally posted by JohnBoot:

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SpongeBob ... is seen as an icon for adult gay men in the US, apparently because he regularly holds hands with his sidekick Patrick.

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There's a thread in Mystery Worship on this same subject. Many posters fear that holding hands will promote homosexuality and - apparently - heterosexuality.

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Most relationships start with people talking to one another. That's where the problem starts! No more conversations! It leads to keeping each other company, playing together, holding hands, sharing meals and who knows something homosexual or heterosexual is bound to come out of it! People should be content to their own company for fear that they may meet anyone else.

Dobson and your paranoid ilk: attack evil that is truly evil, not that which is as much or more a sign of good as of evil. Because you are not comfortable holding hands with another man is no reason other men should not do that.

ps: and don't screw standing up. It only leads to dancing.
 

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Posted by Spiffy da Wonder Sheep (# 5267) on :
 
I was informed yesterday that holding hands promotes cooties.
 

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Posted by Matt Black (# 2210) on :
 
What about Morecambe and Wise, for crying our loud? To think I spent all these years never suspecting that they both might be Players of the Pink Oboe (as the late great Peter Cook would have had it)

Matt
 

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Posted by Raspberry Rabbit (# 3080) on :
 
Every since SpongeBob was featured on Queer Eye for the Straight Cartoon Character he's been acting rather strangely.

RR
 

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Posted by shareman (# 2871) on :
 
So that's why I've been finding myself attracted to square shaped yellow pock marked men! Now it's all clear! I refuse to walk a dog on a leash. I know I'd be promoting S&M bestiality.

[ 21. January 2005, 15:21: Message edited by: shareman ]
 

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Posted by Righteous Rebel (# 7524) on :
 
While Dr. Dobson is not exactly what I'd call a loony, I do believe he has missed the boat on this one, just as Rev. Falwell missed on the Teletubbies. But, then again, I remember a time back in the '70s (I'm telling my age ) when Falwell made a statement on national television that Billy Graham was going to hell because he had let his hair grow over the top of his shirt collar . The problem with people in ministry who rise to national prominence all too often forget that God is the giver of wisdom, not imperfect human beings. Right-wing fundamentalists make me sick because they're so self-righteous and narrow in their views and they make me ashamed because, at one time, I was one of them.
 

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Posted by Og: Thread Killer (# 3200) on :
 
Sponge bob must be Paul Martin's friend.

CBC article

[ 21. January 2005, 16:13: Message edited by: Og: Thread Killer ]
 

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Posted by dj_ordinaire (# 4643) on :
 

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Originally posted by JohnBoot:

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SpongeBob ... is seen as an icon for adult gay men in the US, apparently because he regularly holds hands with his sidekick Patrick.

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There's a thread in Mystery Worship on this same subject. Many posters fear that holding hands will promote homosexuality and - apparently - heterosexuality.

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Wtf? You mean the one about holding hands during the Lord's Prayer?
 

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Posted by Janine (# 3337) on :
 
The only reason Spongy don't look gay as a flamenco dancer's pink undies to me is because he dresses so horribly. He does remind me of certain high school friends... But they always dressed impeccably.
 

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Posted by Mad Geo (# 2939) on :
 

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Originally posted by Righteous Rebel:
While Dr. Dobson is not exactly what I'd call a loony...

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Originally posted by dj_ordinaire:
You mean the one about holding hands during the Lord's Prayer?

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Originally posted by Exiled Youth:
men all over nepal hold hands all the time cos they're mates...possibly elsewhere, but i'm not as well travelled as i'd like to be.

I'd like to see Dr whatsisface try and tell them they're all gay. He'd be strung up in short order...

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Wasn't there also video footage of President Dubya holding hands with various Saudi Arabian men, and his father also holding hands with hands with other such well-dressed men....

EDIT: As a previous post just commented on!

[ 21. January 2005, 17:50: Message edited by: Off Centre View ]
 

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Posted by nicolemrw (# 28) on :
 
another story

from cnn, giving a bit more info. very, very silly.
 

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Posted by MrSponge2U (# 3076) on :
 


But, but, all I wanted to do was to make people happy. And sing!

I blame David Hasselhoff. I told the studio I didn't want him in my last movie, but do they ever listen to me? NO! Now my whole image is gotten shot to hell.

What does a sponge have to do to prove himself a MAN to Mr. Dobson and his Fundamentalist friends? Or else I'll never get to show my face around Colorado Springs again.

Why I know. I'll join the Power Team. Watch out Veggie Tales, here comes POWER SPONGE!
 

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Posted by Siegfried (# 29) on :
 

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Originally posted by JohnBoot:

quote:

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SpongeBob ... is seen as an icon for adult gay men in the US, apparently because he regularly holds hands with his sidekick Patrick.

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There's a thread in Mystery Worship on this same subject. Many posters fear that holding hands will promote homosexuality and - apparently - heterosexuality.

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Tolerance is a personal decision that comes from a belief that every person is a treasure. I believe that America's diversity is its strength. I also recognize that ignorance, insensitivity and bigotry can turn that diversity into a source of prejudice and discrimination.

To help keep diversity a wellspring of strength and make America a better place for all, I pledge to have respect for people whose abilities, beliefs, culture, race, sexual identity or other characteristics are different from my own.

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Utterly scandalous, that is!
Respect! Surely you jest!
Anyone who makes this pledge is going straight to hell, you can bet on that! Except that betting will take you straight to hell, too.
 

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Posted by Nutmeg (# 5297) on :
 
I have just discussed this with my 14 yo boy who rolled his eyes and said.

"When you are at school and go to the library the teachers tell you to hold hands with the person next to you" (the kids walk in two columns holding hands and the kids usually pair up in same sex pairs ).

My boy also said kids would not think of homosexuality becuase two inanimate same sex cartoon characters held hands (get real). He did concede that if spongebob kissed Patrick on the lips there would be suspicions.

He also thought there was a 'lot more' to weigh up when declaring yourself homosexual than the fact that two cartoon characters held hands.
 

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Posted by kiwigoldfish (# 5512) on :
 
It is no accident that the first five letters of SpongeBob's name spell the name of a certain bishop.
 

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Posted by Exiled Youth (# 8744) on :
 

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Originally posted by Off Centre View:

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Originally posted by Exiled Youth:
men all over nepal hold hands all the time cos they're mates...possibly elsewhere, but i'm not as well travelled as i'd like to be.

I'd like to see Dr whatsisface try and tell them they're all gay. He'd be strung up in short order...

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Wasn't there also video footage of President Dubya holding hands with various Saudi Arabian men, and his father also holding hands with hands with other such well-dressed men....

EDIT: As a previous post just commented on!

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Originally posted by Nutmeg:
He did concede that if spongebob kissed Patrick on the lips there would be suspicions.

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Kids don't miss a trick, do they?
 

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Posted by Sine Nomine (# 3631) on :
 

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Originally posted by Grits:
If SpongeBob is indeed an "icon for gay adult men in the U.S.", who's going to tell them?

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quote:

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Tomorrow upon arising...

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quote:

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Originally posted by Sine Nomine:
...Tomorrow upon arising I shall commence to search for an icon of SpongeBob to replace the apparently oh-so-passe St. Xenia of Rome.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Mad Geo:

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Originally posted by Sine Nomine:
...Tomorrow upon arising I shall commence to search for an icon of SpongeBob to replace the apparently oh-so-passe St. Xenia of Rome.

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Perhaps this?

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Originally posted by Mad Geo:
Perhaps this?

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Originally posted by The Riv:

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Tomorrow upon arising...

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Now, there's some witty text painting.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Sine Nomine:

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Originally posted by Mad Geo:
Perhaps this?

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Actually I think this would be more iconographic. Especially in a beaten-silver frame.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Foolhearty:
What's a Christian™ to do?

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quote:

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Originally posted by Squirrel:
BUGS BUNNY is definitely out. He sometimes kissed Elmer Fudd before doing things like handing him a bomb. So, not only was he gay, but also a sadiist.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Sine Nomine:
One musn't dawdle or one might miss the next new thing. Who knows what might be all the rage by supper time?

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Originally posted by Sine Nomine:
(That was directed at James Dobson and his ilk, Foolhearty, not at you.)

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quote:

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Originally posted by JohnBoot:
Well, I re-read the MW thread in order to pluck a good example, but the whole thread is so asstight that I would hate to showcase one puckeree above the other puckerees.

There seems to be a common philosophy that the posters' arid view of life and worship is the norm for humanity.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
Dobson or one of his camp

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Originally posted by Conte Oberto:
Excuse me, JohnBoot, I'm new here. I am not trying to start a fight, however, I am not sure from your post if you are gay or gay-baiting but it looks like one or other. What do you mean by "asstight" and "puckerees", thank you.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Conte Oberto:

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Originally posted by JohnBoot:
Well, I re-read the MW thread in order to pluck a good example, but the whole thread is so asstight that I would hate to showcase one puckeree above the other puckerees.

There seems to be a common philosophy that the posters' arid view of life and worship is the norm for humanity.

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Excuse me, JohnBoot, I'm new here. I am not trying to start a fight, however, I am not sure from your post if you are gay or gay-baiting but it looks like one or other. What do you mean by "asstight" and "puckerees", thank you.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Mousethief:
I just want to apologize for ever having listened to the "Focus on the Family" radio show, or purchased any of Dobson's books. Please forgive me.

I am willing to hear suggestions for a reasonable penance.

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quote:

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Originally posted by HangarQueen:
I could send you the entire Sponge Bob collection overdubbed in Korean.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Gort:
SpongeBob speaking Korean may be more enlightening than the rants that pass for discourse in these nether regions.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Mousethief:
Preferrably not penances that waste horrific amounts of time. I have things I need to do.

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You are hereby confined to a small room with a computer, where you will spend the rest of your life castigating complete strangers on a message board for making innocuous postings on a relatively unknown message board.
 

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Posted by Mousethief (# 953) on :
 
That's not my penance, that's my hobby.
 

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Posted by Gort (# 6855) on :
 
Must think of something more deviant...will get back to you.
 

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Posted by Ariel (# 58) on :
 

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Originally posted by Amos:
Sleeping with Big Ears is deviant behaviour. You have to draw the line somewhere.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Ariel:
As the sun fell on them they sort of glowed in the light.

I'd never realized before what extraordinary things ears could be.

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They glow if you shine a flashlight (torch?) behind them too. I recall this gave me and my brother hours of childhood fun.

That and putting magnifying glasses over the top of ant hills on sunny days.
 

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Posted by dj_ordinaire (# 4643) on :
 
You get the same affect if you stick a mag-light up your nostril.

Perhaps Dobson has seen the Spongebob episode in which he and Patrick adopt a baby? Or the one with the quote "am I a pretty girl?"

The Spongebob thong is also available at a shop near you!
 

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Posted by MrSponge2U (# 3076) on :
 
I think Dr. Dobson is just confused about a sponge that is a snappy dresser and hangs out with colorful friends. He needs to learn some more about the term "metrosexual". It will certainly add to his "hipness" cred with the young people.

Seriously, I think the problem with people like Dr. Dobson and other people that are into the whole "culture war" mentality, is that they are so obsessed with the so-called "gay agenda" that they look for it in places where it doesn't exist. Things like this are an embarrassment to Christianity.
 

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Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on :
 

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Originally posted by Mousethief:
That's not my penance, that's my hobby.

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At least you have the grace to admit it...

(P.S. Points for being the first to pick up on "Camp." )
 

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Posted by Lurker McLurker™ (# 1384) on :
 

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Originally posted by Laura:
Memo to Mr. Dobson:

Stop embarassing your fellow Christians.

Regards.

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Then again there's making a fool of oneself and telling blatant lies.

given the damage that man has done over the years, perhaps we're better off with him fixating on catoon charcters.

I wonder if we can get him to have a serial killer believing he'd avoid the death penalty if he went on TV and falsely blamed Spongebob for his crimes. That would be fun to see.

[ 22. January 2005, 16:51: Message edited by: Lurker McLurker™ ]
 

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Posted by Swish (# 8566) on :
 
What is this world coming too? Only 10 years ago a Christian would know what was offensive, what was childish and what was silly! And even then, if it was offensive, they would probably realise that protesting would only make more people watch it. There were a few exceptions in the past (Life of Brian) but generally Christians (and other religions) kept their heads on.

Now, in a matter of months, there have been riots and protests against Spongue Bob, Jerry Springer and many others! It's not confined to Christianity either, as many adament theatre goers would agree. What has happened? Is it just that I've begun to realise it? Why doesn't everyone just cool it, read the bit in the Bible about love, fellowship and tollerance and just stop it? Ooh it makes me mad!
 

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Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on :
 
(sourly) Would have worked for Dan White.

[That was in reference to Lurker's serial killer scenario.]

[ 22. January 2005, 17:27: Message edited by: Kelly Alves ]
 

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Posted by Spiffy da Wonder Sheep (# 5267) on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by dj_ordinaire:
The Spongebob thong is also available at a shop near you!

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quote:

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Originally posted by Spiffy da Wonder Sheep:

Oh, and JohnBoot: Fuck off and die, y'gormless twat.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Swish:
What is this world coming too? Only 10 years ago a Christian would know what was offensive, what was childish and what was silly! And even then, if it was offensive, they would probably realise that protesting would only make more people watch it. There were a few exceptions in the past (Life of Brian) but generally Christians (and other religions) kept their heads on.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Gort:
Don't worry Conte, just don't drop the soap when posting around Mr. Boot.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Sine Nomine:
I think the rage he inspires is a tribute to the truths he tells.

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Originally posted by Sine Nomine:
Well, he certainly inspires controversy, doesn't he?

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Originally posted by Sine Nomine:
Gosh, what a dull world it would be if we all had the same opinions. Fortunately that's not likely to happen. It would make it difficult to get good odds on the trifecta.

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Opinion isn't the issue.
 

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Posted by Gort (# 6855) on :
 
erm..what was the issue again?
 

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Posted by Mousethief (# 953) on :
 
assholity
 

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Posted by Gort (# 6855) on :
 
Oh, yeah! SpongeBob really takes the cake. Corrupting the youth of American and all...
 

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Posted by Mousethief (# 953) on :
 
I like the self-depricating irony, Gort.
 

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Posted by Sine Nomine (# 3631) on :
 

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Originally posted by Mousethief:
assholity

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quote:

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Originally posted by Sine Nomine:
...in your opinion.

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I get it now!

Opinions=assholes=everyone's got one

Sometimes you guys are so cryptic it takes awhile.
 

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Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on :
 
Gort, you crack my shit up on a regular basis.
 

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Posted by Sarkycow (# 1012) on :
 

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Originally posted by Sine Nomine:
Well, he certainly inspires controversy, doesn't he? That's a tribute of a sort. So Unrestful.

Sort of like one of those annoying Old Testament prophets.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Sine Nomine:
My posts are very short. Even you ought to be able to read them.

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He ought to be able to, but he doesn't have to.

That's a, ummmm, prvivilege reserved for the hellhosts.


 

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Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on :
 

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Originally posted by Tortuf:
Well, I think you were resolute.

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Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
(sourly) Would have worked for Dan White.

[That was in reference to Lurker's serial killer scenario.]

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Originally posted by Lurker McLurker™:
Actually, he had had the standard fucked up serial killer past, complete with childhood animal torture, being beaten up by his grandad etc.

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It'll proabbly never be known what Dobson said he would do for Bundy in return for this, but I bet Ted didn't give that interview for fun.

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Originally posted by Sine Nomine:
I am proud to say I both understand and agree with most of Mr. Boot's posts. I know of no one on the ship better at puncturing pomposity or exposing hypocrisy. The Unrestful tend not to like it when it is pointed out that they too frequently fall into the whited sepulcher category.

I think the rage he inspires is a tribute to the truths he tells.

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Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
I have never understood all the fuss, myself. Of all the irritating wiseasses around here--myself included, now that I think of it*--why is it Boots is elected the Great Satan of them All?

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Originally posted by Rossweisse:
Oh, I understand his posts, all right. I also understand that he's just a thoroughly unpleasant troll whose hobbies include derailing threads (like this one!) and launching vicious attacks on innocent people who have nothing to do with him.

Most of his "puncturings" and "exposures" are nothing more than nasty dismissals of any viewpoint that differs from his own idiosyncratic brand of narrowmindedness. As far as "whited sepulchres" go, he has about the highest putridity-to-whitewash ratio on the Ship.

He doesn't inspire rage, at least as far as I'm concerned. He inspires contempt. And the truth does not, I fear, appear to be in him.

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quote:

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Originally posted by JohnBoot:
Posts like this make it all worthwhile.

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Originally posted by Rossweisse:
At least you can't claim that nobody understands you, Bootsie. And I'm sure you're enjoying all the attention -- clearly, you'd much rather be the object of much-deserved contempt than ignored.

So I'll get back to ignoring you.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
See? She gets it!

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Oh, I think most of us here get it.

Rossweisse // so much for poor old Spongebob...
 

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Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on :
 
Ok, SPongebob...

was Spongebob the character that "married" one of his male friends in one episode? or am I cross-referencing another Dobson fixation?
 

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Posted by Rossweisse (# 2349) on :
 
Beats me. I am happy to say that my children have about outgrown the Annoying Animated Character Fixation stage.

Rossweisse // would that Mr. Dobson would do the same
 

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Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on :
 
//
 

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Posted by Peppone (# 3855) on :
 

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Originally posted by Mousethief:
assholity

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...and ivy
When they are both full grown...


Hey, I remember the words!
 

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Posted by Lamb Chopped (# 5528) on :
 
...out of all the freaks that are in the woods...
 

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Posted by Mousethief (# 953) on :
 
...James Dobson wears the crown.
 

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Posted by Rossweisse (# 2349) on :
 
Bravi tutti!
 

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Posted by Sine Nomine (# 3631) on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by Rossweisse:
Most of his "puncturings" and "exposures" are nothing more than nasty dismissals of any viewpoint that differs from his own idiosyncratic brand of narrowmindedness.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Sine Nomine:
... Must be a case of "If I spot it, I've got it."

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Originally posted by Sine Nomine:
...in my opinion.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Rossweisse:

Sorry, but your opinion has lost all pertinence.

Rossweisse // ...in my opinion

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Originally posted by Gort:
uh...in all fairness, I think he had a little help.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Sine Nomine:
I get furious with myself that I allow Rossweisse to get my goat. ...

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quote:

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Originally posted by Rossweisse:
Oh, absolutely. Sine was having a lovely time stirring the pot, I got tired of being kicked by the two of them, and several other people contributed to the derailing as well.

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Was Ms .Rossweisse's name mentioned on this thread before she (so graciously) showed up?
 

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Posted by Leetle Masha (# 8209) on :
 
"Hurry up, please, it's time!
"Hurry up, please, it's time. . . ."
 

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Posted by Gort (# 6855) on :
 
I said witty banter...and you're beginning to look suspiciously like cardboard.

[ 24. January 2005, 02:49: Message edited by: Gort ]
 

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Posted by Leetle Masha (# 8209) on :
 
Sheesh, I'm the one on here once tried to be a nun, and they didn't even give me a ruler....

Come over here Gort so I can thrash you with me rosary beads.

You love it!
 

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Posted by Rossweisse (# 2349) on :
 

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Originally posted by Gort:
I said witty banter...and you're beginning to look suspiciously like cardboard.

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Cardboard?


Whatever, Gort.
 

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Posted by Gort (# 6855) on :
 
Just messin' with ya Ross..nevermind!
 

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Posted by Leetle Masha (# 8209) on :
 
Aluminium cuts cardboard, Gort.
 

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Posted by Mousethief (# 953) on :
 
WAAAAAIIIITERRRRRRRR!!!!!!!
 

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Posted by Rossweisse (# 2349) on :
 
Poor SpongeBob....he never had a chance!
 

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Posted by Gort (# 6855) on :
 
Nice timing on the sig change Ross!!
 

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Posted by Rossweisse (# 2349) on :
 
I was tired of it anyway.


But I'll change it back if you'd like.
 

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Posted by Alan Cresswell (# 31) on :
 

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Originally posted by Rossweisse:
Poor SpongeBob....he never had a chance!

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quote:

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Originally posted by Spiffy da Wonder Sheep:

quote:

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Originally posted by dj_ordinaire:
The Spongebob thong is also available at a shop near you!

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Um, IIRC from the movie previews, Spongebob wears boxes.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Leetle Masha:
Sigh. And here, all this time, my first impression of Spongebob Squarepants was that he was a device to encourage children to take baths.... Or to scrub floors....

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quote:

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Originally posted by dj_ordinaire:
No, no, you misunderstand - a thong with Spongebob on it, not a thong such as Spongebob would wear.

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But I think there is a question of philosophical purity at hand here. If Spongebob wears boxers, then does it not fly in the face of all he stands for to manufacture Spongebob thongs? Does that not constitute a mockery of his Boxer-wearing stance?

I'm gonna get my nephew's opinion on this; he will set you all straight.

[ 24. January 2005, 16:09: Message edited by: Kelly Alves ]
 

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Posted by Laura (# 10) on :
 
John Boot, Sine and Rossweisse: the way you all wind each other up and send threads cantering off down paths dark and thorny is starting to tire me immensely. It unfolds so predictably. And further, Sine, the fact that the confessed troll John Boot should amuse you at all I find deeply worrying. He is one of the most disruptive influences we have had on the board, and specializes in constant skating just so close to the edge but no further that he is a constant irritant. I have no idea why he does this.

Anyway. Have a nice day.
 

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Posted by Lurker McLurker™ (# 1384) on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:

quote:

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Originally posted by Rossweisse:
Poor SpongeBob....he never had a chance!

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That's the problem with beign a gay icon. Are any of them big strong "don't mess with me" types? We need to recruit Charles Bronson or Dirty "make my day, punk" Harry to the ranks of gay icons. Then they may have a chance.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Kelly Alves:

I'm gonna get my nephew's opinion on this; he will set you all straight.

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Good. Thus undoing all the harm SpongeBob has done.
 

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Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on :
 
(t-5 seconds)

(4)

(3)

(2)

(joke premise identified)




(ok, sometimes it takes me a while...)
 

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Posted by Spiffy da Wonder Sheep (# 5267) on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by dj_ordinaire:

quote:

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Originally posted by Spiffy da Wonder Sheep:
Um, IIRC from the movie previews, Spongebob wears boxes.

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No, no, you misunderstand - a thong with Spongebob on it, not a thong such as Spongebob would wear. Although I'm intrigued to hear that he has switched to boxers - in the episodes, it's y-fronts all the way!

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quote:

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Originally posted by Laura:
Sine, the fact that the confessed troll John Boot should amuse you at all I find deeply worrying.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Spiffy da Wonder Sheep:

quote:

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Originally posted by dj_ordinaire:

quote:

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Originally posted by Spiffy da Wonder Sheep:
Um, IIRC from the movie previews, Spongebob wears boxes.

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No, no, you misunderstand - a thong with Spongebob on it, not a thong such as Spongebob would wear. Although I'm intrigued to hear that he has switched to boxers - in the episodes, it's y-fronts all the way!

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You try to make obscure jokes based on shows you've never seen, and they blow up in your face.

Key word in original quote: boxes.

(in the movie previews, Sr. Bob folded his cardboard knickers into shape. Then tab A fell out of tab b and everyone was mooned by a neon yellow sponge. Is my raving making sense now?)

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quote:

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Originally posted by Spiffy da Wonder Sheep:

You try to make obscure jokes based on shows you've never seen, and they blow up in your face.

Key word in original quote: boxes.

(in the movie previews, Sr. Bob folded his cardboard knickers into shape. Then tab A fell out of tab b and everyone was mooned by a neon yellow sponge. Is my raving making sense now?)

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oops... sorry! just read it as boxers and havn't seen that preview (perhaps not to be seen in Blighty). Rest assured the raving now makes perfect sense!
 

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Posted by JohnBoot (# 3566) on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by Sine Nomine:

Dear Lady Marchmain,

I am sorry I have disappointed you and shall no longer associate with that wicked Anthony Blanche.

Sincerely,
Charles Ryder

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Antoine. Please, it's Antoine.
 

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Posted by Laura (# 10) on :
 
Antoine and Charles:

You gentlemen clearly need to get a room.
 

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Posted by QuakerCub (# 4728) on :
 
Mr. Dobson is guilty of a far greater sin than has been mentioned so far. By focusing our attention on SpongeBob, he has blinded us to the true evil.

How often, Shipmates, have we been walking down the aisle at our local grocery store (the snack section specifically) and come across the leering face of the true "Gay Icon?" I speak of Orville Reddenbacher!!! What better way to corrupt children and lead them into the gay lifestyle than to offer them the tasty treat that they have learned to love at their favorite nickelodeon emporium (Dobson still calls them that!) It is insidious and it is happening right in front of our very noses! A campaign must be organized to remove him from our children's sight
 

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Posted by Og: Thread Killer (# 3200) on :
 
Orville died 10 years ago.

Is he an icon in the orthodox gay tradition then?
 

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Posted by nickel (# 8363) on :
 
I usually don't wear cartoon characters to Church, but this merits an exception.
 

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Posted by dj_ordinaire (# 4643) on :
 
Sorry, who is this guy???
 

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Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on :
 
He was a popcorn mogul. No, seriously, he was.

Was he gay? Never knew that.
 

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Posted by nicolemrw (# 28) on :
 
i thought orville redenbacher had kids who continued the business? i might be wrong about that, and even if i'm right, it doesn't prove he wasn't gay, but somewhat lessens the probability...
 

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Posted by nicolemrw (# 28) on :
 
ah, here we go:

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Orville Redenbacher's death came as a shock to his family. Although 88, he was in good health. Just before his death, he was planning a trip to Yosemite National Park with his family. He is survived by daughters Billie Ann Atwood and Gail Tuminello, 12 grandchildren, and ten great-grandchildren. Two wives, Corinne and Nina, preceded him in death. "He's in heaven now so he can go wherever he wants," said Atwood. During his lifetime, Redenbacher reportedly ate popcorn several times a week, following in the footsteps of his father, who ate it every night. Though most people now microwave their popcorn, Redenbacher once admitted his favorite way to make popcorn was the old-fashioned way--a little bit of oil and popcorn, popped in a pan atop a stove until it nearly popped the lid off.

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quote:

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Whatever happened to the days of Big Hollywood epics like Spartacus and Ben Hur? When gay men lusted after muscular swordfighters, not members of boy bands and stuff?

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Sigh. And here, all this time, my first impression of Spongebob Squarepants was that he was a device to encourage children to take baths.... Or to scrub floors....

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suggests both bars of soap, and the act of bending over to pick them up. And we all know how dangerous that can be, don't we?
 

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Posted by nicolemrw (# 28) on :
 
*nicole reaches through the internet and swats the wanderer on the wrist*

naughty boy!
 

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Posted by MrSponge2U (# 3076) on :
 
This is where soap-on-a-rope comes in handy.
 

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Posted by Janine (# 3337) on :
 
Bugs Bunny in a dress kissing and marrying Elmer Fudd promoted homosexuality about as well as Milton "Uncle Milty" Berle in drag did.

Maybe the modern cartoon types promote it more efficiently, more like Queer Eye guys.

Someone needs to do a study on adult homosexuals who consider that their TV icons in their younger years gave them the warm fuzzies.
 

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Posted by QuakerCub (# 4728) on :
 
Let us not forget Bruce Wayne and his "youthful ward," Dick Grayson!!! Not only homosexuality but NAMBLA!!!! Oh no!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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Posted by Mousethief (# 953) on :
 

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Originally posted by QuakerCub:
Let us not forget Bruce Wayne and his "youthful ward," Dick Grayson!!! Not only homosexuality but NAMBLA!!!! Oh no!!!!!!!!!!!

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quote:

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Originally posted by nomadicgrl:
Ironically enough today's reading of Madeleine L'Engle is where she talks about her book A Wrinkle in Time and C.S. Lewis's Narnia series being on a list of books that "should be banned" for pornographic content.

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Narnia? OMG - where was the pornography in there?
 

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Posted by Golden Key (# 1468) on :
 
Yeah, I know about "Wrinkle" being banned--some idjits thought that tessering was sex! But don't think I ever heard about the Narnia books.
 

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Posted by nomadicgrl (# 7623) on :
 

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Originally posted by anglicanrascal:

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Originally posted by nomadicgrl:
Ironically enough today's reading of Madeleine L'Engle is where she talks about her book A Wrinkle in Time and C.S. Lewis's Narnia series being on a list of books that "should be banned" for pornographic content.

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Narnia? OMG - where was the pornography in there?

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quote:

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Originally posted by nomadicgrl:
the "pornography" is a freudian take on pushing through the fur coats to enter the magical land?)

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quote:

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Originally posted by Mousethief:

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Originally posted by QuakerCub:
Let us not forget Bruce Wayne and his "youthful ward," Dick Grayson!!! Not only homosexuality but NAMBLA!!!! Oh no!!!!!!!!!!!

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I think Dick Grayson was of age. Could be wrong, though.

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Originally posted by ken:
And comes across a faun. We all know what they get up to on ancient Greek vases.

A faun that entices young girls back to his den.

And then her brother is drugged and seduced by a frigid older woman.

And the next thing is that they all put on fur coats, go through the hole, and meet the beavers :eek@.

Just say the word "furry" to ChastMastr of this parish, and vow never to log on to any of the relevant websites he then finds for you.

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quote:

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Originally posted by ken:

Just say the word "furry" to ChastMastr of this parish, and vow never to log on to any of the relevant websites he then finds for you.

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quote:

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Originally posted by ken:
And comes across a faun. We all know what they get up to on ancient Greek vases.

A faun that entices young girls back to his den.

And then her brother is drugged and seduced by a frigid older woman.

And the next thing is that they all put on fur coats, go through the hole, and meet the beavers :eek@.

Just say the word "furry" to ChastMastr of this parish, and vow never to log on to any of the relevant websites he then finds for you.

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Good God, haven't had a laugh like that in a week...
 

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Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on :
 

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Originally posted by Siegfried:
You know, there is more to the furry fandom than one sees on CSI or MTV. *sigh*

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I know, I know... have you seen cobalt lately? Tell him to drop his cousin a line...

[ 28. January 2005, 01:26: Message edited by: Kelly Alves ]
 

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Posted by Zeke (# 3271) on :
 

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Originally posted by ken:
And comes across a faun. We all know what they get up to on ancient Greek vases.

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I was always told that those were satyrs. Are these just two words for the same thing--er--creature? They sure do look alike.
 

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Posted by Golden Key (# 1468) on :
 
Well, someone has some sanity.

The United Church of Christ has issued a welcome to SpongeBob and all similarly beleagured cartoon folk.

Check out SB's photo diary--it's like Sven's old diary!



 

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Posted by Gort (# 6855) on :
 
The Gay Plot™ to seduce our youth continues! The scheduled PBS animated show featuring Buster the Bunny has been condemned by the new US Secretary of Education for featuring the immoral rabbit visiting lesbians on a Vermont maple syrup farm! PBS has bowed to Fed pressure and has pulled the episode called "Sugertime!"

CNN Report
 

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Posted by auntbeast (# 377) on :
 
Posted by Kelly Alves

quote:

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(And anyway, it seems to me that kything(In the L'Engle books) would be a better sexual metaphore than tessering)

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quote:

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Originally posted by Golden Key:


The United Church of Christ has issued a welcome to SpongeBob and all similarly beleagured cartoon folk.

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Spongebob has always struck me as more of a Charismatic, though. He might get in trouble with the church by jumping up and shouting "Hallelujah!" at inappropriate moments during the service.
 

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Posted by Benedictus (# 1215) on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by Gort:
The Gay Plot™ to seduce our youth continues! The scheduled PBS animated show featuring Buster the Bunny has been condemned by the new US Secretary of Education for featuring the immoral rabbit visiting lesbians on a Vermont maple syrup farm! PBS has bowed to Fed pressure and has pulled the episode called "Sugertime!"

CNN Report

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quote:

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Originally posted by Zeke:

quote:

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Originally posted by ken:
And comes across a faun. We all know what they get up to on ancient Greek vases.

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I was always told that those were satyrs. Are these just two words for the same thing--er--creature? They sure do look alike.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Benedictus:

quote:

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Originally posted by Gort:
The Gay Plot™ to seduce our youth continues! The scheduled PBS animated show featuring Buster the Bunny has been condemned by the new US Secretary of Education for featuring the immoral rabbit visiting lesbians on a Vermont maple syrup farm! PBS has bowed to Fed pressure and has pulled the episode called "Sugertime!"

CNN Report

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Well, now, that's just damned embarrassing.

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quote:

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Originally posted by QuakerCub:
Mr. Dobson is guilty of a far greater sin than has been mentioned so far. By focusing our attention on SpongeBob, he has blinded us to the true evil.

How often, Shipmates, have we been walking down the aisle at our local grocery store (the snack section specifically) and come across the leering face of the true "Gay Icon?" I speak of Orville Reddenbacher!!! What better way to corrupt children and lead them into the gay lifestyle than to offer them the tasty treat that they have learned to love at their favorite nickelodeon emporium (Dobson still calls them that!) It is insidious and it is happening right in front of our very noses! A campaign must be organized to remove him from our children's sight

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quote:

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Originally posted by Benedictus:

quote:

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Originally posted by Gort:
The Gay Plot™ to seduce our youth continues! The scheduled PBS animated show featuring Buster the Bunny has been condemned by the new US Secretary of Education for featuring the immoral rabbit visiting lesbians on a Vermont maple syrup farm! PBS has bowed to Fed pressure and has pulled the episode called "Sugertime!"

CNN Report

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Well, now, that's just damned embarrassing.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Gort:
My apologies for the lack of seriousness in the tone of my post, Bede. This subject absolutely blows my gaskets. I understand that the Fed funding of PBS programs such as this puts the managers in subordinate position, but this mindless nonsense seems to be growing in our country and it frustrates the hell out of me.

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quote:

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But I lent [a book] to a classics student who then died, so it seemed inappropriate to ask for it back.

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Ken, I read this as "I FED it to a classics student...."

Sorry, I'm easily amused.
 

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Posted by Laura (# 10) on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by Gort:
The Gay Plot™ to seduce our youth continues! The scheduled PBS animated show featuring Buster the Bunny has been condemned by the new US Secretary of Education for featuring the immoral rabbit visiting lesbians on a Vermont maple syrup farm! PBS has bowed to Fed pressure and has pulled the episode called "Sugertime!"

CNN Report

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quote:

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Originally posted by Mousethief:
I just don't understand the point of view that says "if we portray normal homosexual people as normal people, our children will be tempted to become homosexuals themselves."

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Originally posted by Sine Nomine:
...which is puzzling since I have a very attractive friend of the straight persuasion. I try to be in his presence as much as possible but he still hasn't succumbed. He must have natural anti-bodies to my body.

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quote:

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Originally posted by MarkthePunk:

quote:

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Originally posted by Sine Nomine:
...which is puzzling since I have a very attractive friend of the straight persuasion. I try to be in his presence as much as possible but he still hasn't succumbed. He must have natural anti-bodies to my body.

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Try watching SpongBob with him.

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Sine, maybe using SpongeBob with him in the shower would help.

(And Mark, it is SpongeBob, not SpongBob. You may have fantasies about the retired Bishop of Newark, but try to control yourself in public.)
 

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Posted by MarkthePunk (# 683) on :
 
Oh dear, that was an embarrassing typo.
 

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Posted by Gort (# 6855) on :
 
If I am to be converted to the homosexual lifestyle, then let it be with images of someone I admire, not of a sea-dwelling sponge. Alas, it seems that is not to be.

Yours,
Robo-curious.
 

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Posted by The Bede's American Successor (# 5042) on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by MarkthePunk:
Oh dear, that was an embarrassing typo.

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quote:

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Originally posted by The Bede's American Successor:
...I caught a very interesting error on her Consecration Certificate after all 20 +/- bishops had signed and sealed it. Her certificate says "Bishop Coadjutor," not "Bishop Suffragan." ...

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I wonder what the legal types would say about that one...
 

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Posted by nicolemrw (# 28) on :
 
sine, a friend of mine holds out that the only difference between a straight man and a bi man is a 6-pack of beer. have you tried that?
 

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Posted by MarkthePunk (# 683) on :
 
A six pack of beer while watching SpongeBob SquarePants and . . . well, I don't want to think of such things.
 

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Posted by Zeke (# 3271) on :
 
I heard something about the offending Buster episode on the radio this morning, and the person mentioning commented that it mainly consisted of seeing two women in a kitchen together. Makes you really worry about those church suppers, doesn't it? Of course I didn't see the evil abomination myself.
 

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Posted by Zeke (# 3271) on :
 
Double-posted to add: Why is it that other people's lives have so much style? I don't think mine has all that much. That's about all you hear about these days, it seems sometimes, other people whose lives have all this "style." Goes with being exceptionally fashion-conscious, I suppose.
 

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Posted by Sine Nomine (# 3631) on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by Zeke:
Why is it that other people's lives have so much style?

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quote:

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Originally posted by Gort:
Alas, it seems that is not to be.

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Actually I emailed Grits some pix last week. I hope you've got that crisp twenty all ready to mail.
 

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Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on :
 
HA!
 

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Posted by Go Anne Go (# 3519) on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by The Bede's American Successor:
[Speak for yourself. The bow tie on Reddenbacher was misleading. There are a few straight men that wear them.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Sine Nomine:
..and yes, nicole, I think that is frequently the case, which may be why said friend has never had more than two beers in my presence.

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Buy double strength beer, and then you'll only have to figure out how to get one more into him.
 

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Posted by Sine Nomine (# 3631) on :
 
Of course he's a church musician so he's probably lying anyway.

...oh, sorry Riv.

[ 29. January 2005, 22:12: Message edited by: Sine Nomine ]
 

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Posted by Zeke (# 3271) on :
 
Or else he's awfully lonely.
 

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Posted by Golden Key (# 1468) on :
 
Here is Delusions of grandeur at "Focus on the Family" by Keith Olbermann of MSNBC. It seems that the Dobson groupies have been spamming him. This is his response.
 

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Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on :
 
Keith Olbermann is my new hero
 

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Posted by Go Anne Go (# 3519) on :
 
I just e-mailed Keith Olbermann because of that article, and for thoroughness I cc:ed Focus on the Family on that e-mail.

In short: I have a new and profound respect for Keith Olbermann, and less and less respect for Focus on the Family (if indeed I ever did.)

I also just came from listening to Jim Wallis speak. He had his own tale to tell about Focus on the Family. He sat in a room with the heads of them for hours and hours and finally got them to admit that really and truly gays were NOT responsible for the breakdown in the heterosexual family. According to him, they did indeed admit this. Of course their next line was:
"But we can't speak on behalf of our fundraising department."
Tells you just what you need to know.
 

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Posted by Mousethief (# 953) on :
 
What a delightful man. Go, Keith Olbermann! Does he have a fan club?
 

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Posted by Go Anne Go (# 3519) on :
 
This is the web, there's ALWAYS a fan club.
 

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Posted by Zeke (# 3271) on :
 
No official club membership, but I have been a fan of his for quite a long time.
 

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Posted by Revelle (# 8554) on :
 
Excellent article by Keith. My parents used to be subscribed to Focus on the Family magazines, which we have thankfully de-subscribed from. Mr. Dobson needs to check over what he's done, and maybe, just maybe, he should apologize for this blaring mistake.
 

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Posted by ChastMastr (# 716) on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by Nutmeg:
My boy also said kids would not think of homosexuality becuase two inanimate same sex cartoon characters held hands (get real). He did concede that if spongebob kissed Patrick on the lips there would be suspicions.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Mousethief:
I just want to apologize for ever having listened to the "Focus on the Family" radio show, or purchased any of Dobson's books. Please forgive me.

I am willing to hear suggestions for a reasonable penance.

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Having suffered through them is penance enough.

It could be worse. It could be "Talk Back with Bob Larson."
 

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Posted by ChastMastr (# 716) on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:
That's the problem with beign a gay icon. Are any of them big strong "don't mess with me" types? We need to recruit Charles Bronson or Dirty "make my day, punk" Harry to the ranks of gay icons. Then they may have a chance.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Lurker McLurker™:
Whatever happened to the days of Big Hollywood epics like Spartacus and Ben Hur? When gay men lusted after muscular swordfighters, not members of boy bands and stuff?

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Er...



What David is not saying is that he spent an inordinate amount of time this very day downloading Steve Reeves screen-caps, without ever having read this post. Synchronicity lives
 

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Posted by ChastMastr (# 716) on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by Mousethief:
I think Dick Grayson was of age. Could be wrong, though.

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quote:

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Originally posted by ken:
Just say the word "furry" to ChastMastr of this parish, and vow never to log on to any of the relevant websites he then finds for you.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Siegfried:
You know, there is more to the furry fandom than one sees on CSI or MTV. *sigh*

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quote:

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Originally posted by w_houle:
3. some of the allure of homosexuality is it being taboo, the forbidden fruit.

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quote:

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People who engage in homosexual acts feel as though they are getting away with something

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I need to go lie down now.
 

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Posted by 3M Matt (# 1675) on :
 
Spongebob is far FAR too inane, pathetic, juvinile and uninteresting to have a subtext.

It's not a proper grown up programme like "The Simpsons".

If you want gay subtext in innocent cartoons, "Sharks Tale" is great.
 

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Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on :
 
Finally, a sensible voice...
 

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Posted by Alan Cresswell (# 31) on :
 
And, from Matt of all people. Not usually the first to express sanity (which I guess is why he called himself the mad medic).
 

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Posted by ChastMastr (# 716) on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by 3M Matt:
If you want gay subtext in innocent cartoons, "Sharks Tale" is great.

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Because of Ellen as Dorie?

I don't think Bruce was modeled on Exodus; I think it's more AA.

...

Oh.

That's Finding Nemo, isn't it?

Dang. Shark's Tale is out of the theatres, isn't it? I wanted to see it...
 

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Posted by Go Anne Go (# 3519) on :
 
This week's Time Magazine cover article on the 25 most influential evangelicals in America mentions Dobson. It doesn't mention the whole Spongebob fiasco. (Who I think the whole homosexuality thing is actually a cover against miscenegenation. What with Bob being a sponge (and yellow) and Patrick being a starfish (and pink). That's the real reason FoF doesn't mention Bob's crush on Sandy Squirrel.)

The article does however quote the White House on how it doesn't consider him particualrly influential, and not as influential as Dobson thinks he is.
 

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Posted by Mousethief (# 953) on :
 
I loved Ellen Degeneres in Finding Nemo. Superb voice acting. Delightful caricature. I don't see how her "sexual preferences" have anything to do with that.
 

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Posted by Gill H (# 68) on :
 
Yawn. If you want gay subtext, go and watch X-Men 2. "Have you tried ... not being a mutant?" Cracks me up.
 

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Posted by Laura (# 10) on :
 
It's an odd thing, this debate re: Spongebob et al -- I have heaps of gay friends, and I've never once wanted to engage in sex with another woman, not have really even given it much thought. It can't be that catching. And of course, if sexuality were dependent upon being shown a certain lifestyle depicted in a positive light, then most gays would be straight. They're certainly saturated enough with straight imagery.
 

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Posted by Pob (# 8009) on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by Mousethief:
I loved Ellen Degeneres in Finding Nemo. Superb voice acting. Delightful caricature. I don't see how her "sexual preferences" have anything to do with that.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Go Anne Go:
...The article does however quote the White House on how it doesn't consider him particualrly influential, and not as influential as Dobson thinks he is.

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Or his marketing department makes him out to be.
 

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Posted by Rangatira (# 8232) on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by Cheesy*:
I hold hands and skip down the street (with my four year old). What does that make me?

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A pedophile, o'course.What a stupid question to ask
 

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Posted by Foolhearty (# 6196) on :
 
This whole thing makes me wonder. These loonies sincerely believe sexual orientation is all about "lifestyle choice."

Do you suppose James Dobson has sat down at some point, reflected deeply on his own sexuality, and come to the earthshattering realization that, after years of heterosexual marriage, he is deeply and profoundly and insatiably attracted to starfish?

The poor guy. Let's start a fund to send him to Boston, where the Aquarium has a Tidal Petting Zoo.

A starfish there once curled quite cozily around my finger.
 

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Posted by jlg (# 98) on :
 
Hmmmm. James Dobson as an aquarium exhibit...

Yeah. I like it!
 

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Posted by Ham'n'Eggs (# 629) on :
 


ChastMastr, for 6 consecutive posts on page 5 - and no redundant apology!

Is this a Ship record?
 

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Posted by Benedictus (# 1215) on :
 
We used to get phone calls several times a year from the Focus on the Family people. I finally told them if they had a movie showing a gay couple being treated with courtesy and respect by everybody else in the neighborhood to call me, because that would certainly reflect positive family values. Funny, I haven't heard from them since.
 

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Posted by Gort (# 6855) on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by Laura:
[...] It's an odd thing, this debate re: Spongebob et al -- I have heaps of gay friends, and I've never once wanted to engage in sex with another woman, not have really even given it much thought.

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Sorry, Laura...but your gay women friends must not be very attractive!
 

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Posted by Gort (# 6855) on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by Foolhearty:
[...] A starfish there once curled quite cozily around my finger.

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Oh.My.Gawd!

The depths of your depravity have obviously never been fully plumbed, my dear!
 

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Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by Gort:

quote:

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Originally posted by Laura:
[...] It's an odd thing, this debate re: Spongebob et al -- I have heaps of gay friends, and I've never once wanted to engage in sex with another woman, not have really even given it much thought.

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Sorry, Laura...but your gay women friends must not be very attractive!

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CLANNNGGG.

(In case y'all are wondering, that is the sound of a robot getting sent upside the head with an axe.)
 

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Posted by Gort (# 6855) on :
 
OUCH!! GEEEZZ!!
 

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Posted by Foolhearty (# 6196) on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by Gort:

quote:

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Originally posted by Foolhearty:
[...] A starfish there once curled quite cozily around my finger.

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Oh.My.Gawd!

The depths of your depravity have obviously never been fully plumbed, my dear!

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Hey. It was the starfish doing the curling. I did nothing -- nothing, I tell you -- to invite such shocking liberties.

It's the agressive coziness which probably sends Dobson over the edge. I think he and Patrick would make a cute couple, though.
 

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Posted by Og: Thread Killer (# 3200) on :
 
Yeah....and just what part of "No" does a starfish not understand?!?!
 

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Posted by Golden Key (# 1468) on :
 
Perhaps someone needs to decorate a sponge cake to look like SpongeBob, and give it to Dobson?

 

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Posted by MrSponge2U (# 3076) on :
 
One SpongeBob cake ready to go
 

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Posted by ChastMastr (# 716) on :
 
I'm happy to report that a search for Spongebob Squarepants slash fiction only turned up this.

For which we can all, particularly Patrick and/or Mr. Krab, be grateful.
 

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Posted by Go Anne Go (# 3519) on :
 
There's a great cartoon this week in the New Yorker showing sponge and a starfish reading the mail. The caption says something like "Ah, how sweet. A congratualtions card from Batman and Robin."

Oh how I laughed.
 

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Posted by Henry Troup (# 3722) on :
 

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Originally posted by ChastMastr:
...a search for Spongebob Squarepants slash fiction ...

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Try fanfiction.net - Spongebob stories rated R!

[ 16. February 2005, 16:16: Message edited by: Henry Troup ]
 

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Posted by ChastMastr (# 716) on :
 
I'm troubled, now.

Though I like the Batman joke...
 

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Posted by fionn (# 8534) on :
 
Try this one of Spidey and Spongy.
 

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Posted by Glenn (# 6517) on :
 
There's no pleasing some fundie groups. Tom and Jerry was too violent, but SpongBob is gay because he is SO not macho. I wouldn't say he's effeminate. He's like a little kid. Maybe he will grow up to be a gay man. Who knows? Who cares?!

I think SpongBob is hilarious. My sister gave me a SpongBob T-shirt, but I'm not gay, honest! No really. I've had sex with lots of women, I'll have you know.

[ 17. February 2005, 01:48: Message edited by: Glenn ]
 

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Posted by Gill H (# 68) on :
 
ChastMaster, you have to post that bit from your LiveJournal here! (Yes, I do read it occasionally ...)
 

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Posted by ChastMastr (# 716) on :
 
Which bit?

David
genuinely curious, as it could be anything
 

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Posted by Zeke (# 3271) on :
 

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Originally posted by Glenn:
There's no pleasing some fundie groups. Tom and Jerry was too violent, but SpongBob is gay because he is SO not macho. I wouldn't say he's effeminate. He's like a little kid. Maybe he will grow up to be a gay man. Who knows? Who cares?!

I think SpongBob is hilarious. My sister gave me a SpongBob T-shirt, but I'm not gay, honest! No really. I've had sex with lots of women, I'll have you know.

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Originally posted by Zeke:
I always thought Spong's name was John.

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It is, or "Jack" to his admirers. Perhaps this is a brother...?
 

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Posted by Zeke (# 3271) on :
 
Actually our new priest raised a few eyebrows last week when he recounted an incident involving him, "Jack" and a third person. I remember thinking it was interesting that he knew the man well enough to call him Jack, but perhaps everybody does. His columns, though, say "John Shelby Spong."

Perhaps there is an entire family, Rossweisse.
 

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Posted by Gill H (# 68) on :
 
The 'They came for Bert and Ernie' bit. Cracked me up.
 

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Posted by Laura (# 10) on :
 
I'd just like to add apropos of nothing in especial, that my cats, despite being exposed to a healthy straight relationship, are still shamelessly gay. They were just Greek wrestling again a moment ago. I don't know what to do for their lost souls.
 

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Posted by The Riv (# 3553) on :
 
Laura, there is a dominance issue common in most species.

Or, they're just two hot pusses.
 

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Posted by Alan Cresswell (# 31) on :
 
It seems you need to watch out for Shrek 2 too.
 

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Posted by Gill H (# 68) on :
 
Well, that's shocking. Calling the bartender evil like that. Terrible.

Oh, and he's Jonathan Ross in the UK version. Not sure if that makes it better or worse.
 

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Posted by nicolemrw (# 28) on :
 
transgender agenda? try saying _that_ three times fast!
 

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Posted by Linguo (# 7220) on :
 

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Originally posted by Laura:
I'd just like to add apropos of nothing in especial, that my cats, despite being exposed to a healthy straight relationship, are still shamelessly gay. They were just Greek wrestling again a moment ago. I don't know what to do for their lost souls.

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Originally posted by Gill H:
The 'They came for Bert and Ernie' bit. Cracked me up.

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Originally posted by nobody calls me mezzo:
I for one think that any kind of sexual innuendo is unacceptable in a children's television programme.

It wasn't like that in my day.

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I tore muscles laughing at that!!

"Pluck, pluck, pluck away..."
 

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Posted by ChastMastr (# 716) on :
 

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Originally posted by ChastMastr:
Aha, it's one in which Homer winds up with gay roommates. Still want to see it!

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quote:

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Originally posted by nobody calls me mezzo:
I for one think that any kind of sexual innuendo is unacceptable in a children's television programme.

It wasn't like that in my day.

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quote:

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Originally posted by saysay:
Chast,

Are you looking for Three Gays of the Condo?

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quote:

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Originally posted by Zeke:
I heard something about the offending Buster episode on the radio this morning, and the person mentioning commented that it mainly consisted of seeing two women in a kitchen together. Makes you really worry about those church suppers, doesn't it? Of course I didn't see the evil abomination myself.

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Here you can view the episode in its entirety or a 1-minute clip. At the end of the 1-minute clip you see the young girl displaying her two moms together in a photo. What a scandal.
 

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Posted by Henry Troup (# 3722) on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by nobody calls me mezzo:
I for one think that any kind of sexual innuendo is unacceptable in a children's television programme.

It wasn't like that in my day.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Ultraspike:
...Here you can view the episode in its entirety or a 1-minute clip. At the end of the 1-minute clip you see the young girl displaying her two moms together in a photo. What a scandal.

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