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Posted by Ariel (# 58) on :
 
Cast your votes for the next Pope! Pick up to three candidates from this list. They're all male, Catholic and in holy orders so there should be no problem there.

[ 13. May 2013, 10:52: Message edited by: Imaginary Friend ]
 

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Posted by comet (# 10353) on :
 
Come on, Father Jack!
 

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Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on :
 
HA!

I went with Adzo.
 

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Posted by Ariston (# 10894) on :
 

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I went with Adzo.

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I went with Adzo.

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Because we're all expecting someone repulsive and ugly, but found ourselves instead with someone young and handsome from whom no fee was required.

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Also he's completely gullible and will do whatever we tell him.
 

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Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on :
 
I note that Brother Cadfael is in the lead. Mmm a pope who knows how to find the skeletons in the closet.

Could do worse, I expect. If I could also vote for the abbess who looks after the papal apartments, I would vote for Edith Pargetter (nom de plume: Ellis Peters) now sadly dead.

Pargetter wrote cracking whodunits under both her own name and the Peters pseudonym. Underrated, but marvellous.
 

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Posted by MSHB (# 9228) on :
 
Cardinal Richelieu stands out as the one best qualified to understand the Vatican underworld - and best qualified to rig the vote in his own favor. And, as a cardinal, he is already inside the room where the vote takes place. He's clearly the man for the job.

Isn't it about time that the French got to bring the papacy back to France?

(I actually voted for Father Brown and Friar Tuck, sentimentalist and idealist that I am.)
 

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Posted by Golden Key (# 1468) on :
 
Went for Br. Cadfael, Fr. Brown, and Fr. Dowling. Compassion, common sense, talent for figuring out and solving problems, and capable of more than black-and-white thinking.

If I could add another, it would be Friar Tuck. For the above reasons, more or less, and Robin Hood skills and sensibilities would not be amiss!


As to the papal household, I'd vote for two folks from the TV "Fr. Dowling Mysteries"--Jean, the housekeeper (played by Mary Wickes, aka Josephine the Plumber from the old ads); and Sr. Stephanie (Tracy Nelson), who'd partly grown up on the streets, could hotwire cars, and was brave enough to help a fellow teenager give birth in an emergency, get her to safe harbor, and keep her promise to never tell. I think Stephanie would probably go on private missions.
 

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Posted by Lyda*Rose (# 4544) on :
 
But where is John Blackwood "Blackie" Ryan?
 

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Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on :
 

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Originally posted by Lyda*Rose:
But where is John Blackwood "Blackie" Ryan?

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Disqualified for lust and bad writing on the part of his creator.


 

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Posted by Golden Key (# 1468) on :
 
Yes, Fr. Blackie! And he could definitely handle the politics.

I've long hoped that Andrew Greeley would make him pope.

 

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Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
Sadly Monsignor Quixote was missed off the list so I had to go for Don Camillo as my first choice.
 

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Posted by Ariel (# 58) on :
 

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But where is John Blackwood "Blackie" Ryan?

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I knew sooner or later someone would pop in with "But where's...?"

Can't please everybody, sorry

It's looking like a clear-cut result for the Benedictines, but they've produced more popes than any other order, so no surprise there.
 

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Posted by Ariston (# 10894) on :
 

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It's looking like a clear-cut result for the Benedictines . . .

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. . . except for poor Adzo von Melk—but he's only a Benedictine in the book, so I guess you have a point. I was thinking that what we want is a detective for Pope!
 

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Posted by piglet (# 11803) on :
 
I am a piglet of very little brain - I missed the "vote for up to three" bit, so cast only one vote - Father Ted, in memoriam.

If I'd had my brain-cell switched on, I'd have added Brother Cadfael and Father Jack.

Careful, now.
 

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Posted by lilBuddha (# 14333) on :
 
I would have cast all three votes for Cardinal Ritchie if I could. I object this was not possible. I suspect malice in that...
 

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Posted by Timothy the Obscure (# 292) on :
 
Fr. Sarducci seems the obvious choice to me. Pragmatic and flexible. He might have to quit smoking, though.
 

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Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on :
 
I screwed up on the three votes thing, too- # 2 and# three would have been William of Baskerville and Sarducchi.
 

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Posted by lilBuddha (# 14333) on :
 
Sorry, but Sarducchi comments belong on a particular thread in Heaven.
 

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Posted by Ariel (# 58) on :
 
Benedictines R Us.

Is "Father Brown" being repeated any time soon, does anyone know? I missed the lot.
 

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Posted by Firenze (# 619) on :
 

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Originally posted by Ariel:
Benedictines R Us.

Is "Father Brown" being repeated any time soon, does anyone know? I missed the lot.

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It occurred to me this morning that Brother Cadfael, jolly good chap though he was, wouldn't have been eligible. At least one of the books mentions (IIRC it was regarding not being able to hear confessions) that although he had taken monastic vows, he wasn't ordained as a priest.

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Originally posted by Firenze:
You missed nothing. Related to the original in name only.

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Originally posted by Firenze:
You missed nothing. Related to the original in name only.

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Ah, right. I didn't enjoy the stories much when I read them (years ago now) but it might be time to give them another go.

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I note that Brother Cadfael is in the lead. Mmm a pope who knows how to find the skeletons in the closet.

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Not a a bad quality for someone about to live and work in the Vatican.

Cadfael is also fair, humble, hard-working, inquisitive, kind. He dislikes injustice, is willing to question official dogma, and is gently subversive of prideful superiors. He lives in the real world and engages with people of all classes., He thinks empirically while not forgetting that God is always around us. He talks simply and does not wear flashy clothes.

We could do worse than choose a Pope like that.
 

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Posted by Golden Key (# 1468) on :
 
Re Cadfael:

I only know him from the TV series (with Sir Derek Jacobi!) and a non-fiction book about his garden.

He was really sensitive to shades of gray in life. I'll never forget the time he interviewed a woman who'd been the mistress of a nobleman, borne him a son, and was now a (lay?) nun. He needed to ask about all that, and he approached her very gently and delicately. She smiled, and said something to the effect of "there is room in my life now for neither pride nor shame".


I was thinking, also, that the real-life Br. Lawrence of the Resurrection (author of "The Practice of the Presence of God") would make a good choice. He was a soldier who converted while he was recovering from an injury. He expected that the spiritual life would be miserable, and he was pleasantly surprised. He was very compassionate, and much sought after as a spiritual director.
 

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Posted by ArachnidinElmet (# 17346) on :
 
It seems that we'd all prefer a candidate, who, in all likeliehood, wouldn't want to be pope.

Hmm. Maybe that should be a pre-requisite?
 

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Posted by Ariel (# 58) on :
 
Definitely. I think it is or was a monastic rule that anyone who "intrigued after the office of Abbot should not have it".
 

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Posted by Lyda*Rose (# 4544) on :
 
I understand that Karol Wojtyła (John Paul II) muttered something like "God forgive you!" under his breath when he saw how the vote count was going.
 

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Posted by Robert Armin (# 182) on :
 
Don Camillo gets my vote, as he is in the habit of talking to God and being ticked off by him. Seems to me the single most important attribute for any church leader of whatever stripe.

(And, Firenze, I'm another Father Brown afficianado, who was horrified when I saw one of the TV series.)
 

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Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on :
 
Brother Cadfael is still in a (narrow) lead!


 

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Posted by Golden Key (# 1468) on :
 
Perhaps we could quietly relay our selection to the Conclave? In fortune cookies!
 

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Posted by SyNoddy (# 17009) on :
 
If asked, I would say that Brother Cadfael has been a hugely positive influence on my spiritual journey. I was reading Ellis Peters long before I began to read the Bible, so I'm going to vote for a welsh pope - though he'd hate it I'm sure
 

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Posted by Golden Key (# 1468) on :
 
Re Fr. Brown TV series:

Is this the American one from the 70s/80s with Barnard Hughes in the lead?
 

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Posted by Firenze (# 619) on :
 

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Re Fr. Brown TV series:

Is this the American one from the 70s/80s with Barnard Hughes in the lead?

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