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Posted by Yorick (# 12169) on
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Rather than having you clutter up any nice Purgatory thread with your facile sniping, here’s yet another Hell thread especially for you, mousethief. No doubt, after your tenth anniversary here on the Ship (congratulations, by the way) you’ve seen it all before, so it’s quite understandable that you should be a little bored with the same old discussions coming up again and again, but, well, this is supposed to be a discussion board, you know, for discussion, and all that. Maybe, after having outputted nearly fifty thousand posts here, at the phenomenal rate of about fourteen per every single freaking day during that entire decade, you’ve expended your every useful thought, so here’s a more suitable place for you to dump your totally and utterly useless ones. An entire decade. Wow. God the Almighty must be so proud of you for having devoted such a large portion of your brief and infinitely precious life to such a repeatedly tiresome place, when you could otherwise have been out there expending it more devotedly to useful causes. Facile sniping for Jesus. Yay.
[ 05. January 2015, 23:49: Message edited by: Kelly Alves ]
Posted by Marvin the Martian (# 4360) on
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One does have to wonder why he feels so compelled to read and post on threads that he so clearly finds to be dull and repetitive. Most sane people, on thinking "FFS this is just the same old crap", would go and read something else instead...
Posted by jacobsen (# 14998) on
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Yorick, you had to go back to 2005 to find an example to whinge about? Get a life.
Posted by Marvin the Martian (# 4360) on
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Originally posted by jacobsen:
Yorick, you had to go back to 2005 to find an example to whinge about? Get a life.
What on earth are you on about?
Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on
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My thoughts exactly, Marvin (I was just behind you in checking the link)
Oh, hi Yorkie. Still yapping, I see.
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Posted by Balaam (# 4543) on
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There have been a lot of new posters over the years. many of whom will not have taken part in the said discussions.
If the thread in question had been started by a n00b, you Yorick, would have my support.
But it wasn't that, was it. It was a thread started by someone who regularly starts such threads, or pastes comments to the same effect on other threads.
And that is boring.
Then the same poster has the audacity to complain that someone has called them on restarting something that they knew was here before.
Yorick, you are a one trick pony. To complain when that is pointed out looks like twattery to me.
Posted by Yorick (# 12169) on
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So what would you have me do, then, Steven? I’m interested today in starting a discussion that I was interested enough to take part in last year, and also a year before that (hypothetically speaking). Should I therefore shut the fuck up just in case you or mousethief happen to find my taking part repetitive or boring? Should I stop taking part in said discussion, so that you can have your discussion board undisturbed by, er, discussion? Or should I just stop being interested? Why don't you tell me what you want, so I can tell you to go and fuck yourself with it?
Posted by Sioni Sais (# 5713) on
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Haven't seen anybody call him/herself to Hell since, oh, probably mine last week (it was allegedly to IngoB, but you know what these things are like).
Posted by Yorick (# 12169) on
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Well, since you've kindly (though completely irrelevantly) turned up here instead, fuck you, twatface.
Posted by Zach82 (# 3208) on
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Well, since you've kindly (though completely irrelevantly) turned up here instead, fuck you, twatface.
Next time you feel inspired to start a Hell thread, Yorick, I advise you to first go on a nice walk in the park, throw some bread crumbs to the duckies, and maybe have some coffee and cake at a cafe while watching the clouds sail by. Perhaps even buy a glossy magazine to read in your garden. I recommend Monocle, which has a little something for everyone, nothing to raise the blood pressure, and lots of ads for very nice watches.
Zach
Posted by Sober Preacher's Kid (# 12699) on
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It's mousethief's birthday?
Posted by Taliesin (# 14017) on
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I'm intriegued* as to why he picked on MT - at least 3 other posters said the same thing. As would I, if I could have been bothered to read the thread. Now I have read the thread, but only cos it was linked. So any comment is a bit redundant.
I liked Leaf's fix.
*I wish the ship had spell check.
Posted by alienfromzog (# 5327) on
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Originally posted by Taliesin:
I'm intriegued* as to why he picked on MT - at least 3 other posters said the same thing. As would I, if I could have been bothered to read the thread. Now I have read the thread, but only cos it was linked. So any comment is a bit redundant.
I liked Leaf's fix.
*I wish the ship had spell check.
Spell Checker...
Posted by rugasaw (# 7315) on
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Originally posted by Sober Preacher's Kid:
It's mousethief's birthday?
Actually Yorick said anniversary, although a month late.
Posted by Leaf (# 14169) on
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Boo hoo hoo, now you're all picking on me, when all I wanted to do was contribute to a discussion and honestly learn more about christianity from you fucking deluded idiots. Boo hoo hoo. (sobs into handkerchief)
- Intermission - Act III
I'm a great person, really. You shouldn't judge me by my posts, you should judge my motivations which are pure as the driven snow, I assure you. I'm a hero in real life, and if you only took the time to know the real me, you'd admire me as much as I admire myself. (sighs longingly into mirror)
- Intermission - Act IV
I hate all you bastards, and I'm quitting this tiresome place. That is, until I come back because I crave attention almost as much as I admire my own principled contempt for you all. (curtain)
Thank you, thank you very much. Next show's at 11. Don't forget to buy my CD on the way out!
Posted by Alfred E. Neuman (# 6855) on
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Originally posted by Leaf:
...Thank you, thank you very much. Next show's at 11. Don't forget to buy my CD on the way out!
Only if it has that great old stand-up routine about how no one can really know the real you simply by your posts. It's one of my favorites. *sniff*
Posted by Patdys (# 9397) on
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Originally posted by Leaf:
I'm a great person, really. You shouldn't judge me by my posts, you should judge my motivations which are pure as the driven snow, I assure you.
Don't piss in my lunchbox, thank you very much.
Patdys (Pure as the Driven Yellow Snow)
Posted by Evensong (# 14696) on
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It's hard being boring and predictable isn't it Yorick? Makes one feel quite small.
Luddites unite!
Posted by Yorick (# 12169) on
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It seems mousethief intends not to make an appearance, and, although some of your posts are quite alluring, I think the better part of valour might be discretion. If there is sufficiently popular demand for another thread all about me, I might reconsider, but, as far as my whinge about mousethief goes, I think I’m done here.
Posted by Evensong (# 14696) on
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Originally posted by Yorick:
but, as far as my whinge about mousethief goes, I think I’m done here.
I don't know what has happened to Hell.....
Ain't like the old days.
Way too much niceness going on.
Just aint fun anymore.
Posted by Marvin the Martian (# 4360) on
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So fuck off, then. Ain't like we'd miss you.
Posted by Sioni Sais (# 5713) on
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Originally posted by Evensong:
quote:
Originally posted by Yorick:
but, as far as my whinge about mousethief goes, I think I’m done here.
I don't know what has happened to Hell.....
Ain't like the old days.
Way too much niceness going on.
Just aint fun anymore.
You've been here less than eighteen months and talking like a bitter and twisted ol' timer.
What is it you call whingers from Australia now? Ah yes, Australians.
Posted by Niteowl2 (# 15841) on
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We could start roasting random members on a monthly basis just to whip up the embers.
Posted by Alfred E. Neuman (# 6855) on
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Originally posted by Marvin the Martian:
So fuck off, then. Ain't like we'd miss you.
Yikes! Marvin "Napalm" Martian lays down some cleansing fire!
Where's my asbestos tighty-whiteys?
Posted by Alfred E. Neuman (# 6855) on
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Oh, there they are! *stretch*struggle*yank*squeeze*pull*
Say - do these make my arse look big?
Posted by kingsfold (# 1726) on
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Yes. Do you care?
Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on
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Well if MouseT is not going to post on this thread (and he told me so!)perhaps we could leave this open as a generic thread for Yappie Yorkie to tell us how wonderful he is, and how much people like him in real life (whatever that is).
Spill the bile til I get bored then.
Posted by leo (# 1458) on
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Originally posted by PeteC:
Well if MouseT is not going to post on this thread (and he told me so!)perhaps we could leave this open as a generic thread for Yappie Yorkie to tell us how wonderful he is, and how much people like him in real life (whatever that is).
Spill the bile til I get bored then.
Why should he? I never have when called to Hell - it's a statement of contempt not to do so.
What is wrong with him anyway? I like him.
Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on
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I said nothing about Mousethief's non-posting - read for context.
Posted by Firenze (# 619) on
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Originally posted by leo:
Why should he? I never have when called to Hell - it's a statement of contempt not to do so.
I always saw it as cowardice myself.
Posted by Imaginary Friend (# 186) on
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leo is admitting to being contemptuous?
Posted by Leaf (# 14169) on
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Originally posted by Patdys:
Don't piss in my lunchbox, thank you very much.
Patdys (Pure as the Driven Yellow Snow)
In fact I had your original name in mind, and let the readers understand. The prop for this point in the play would not have been white. I'm sure it would have gotten big laughs.
Posted by Sober Preacher's Kid (# 12699) on
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Originally posted by Imaginary Friend:
leo is admitting to being contemptuous?
Was that the cause of cold blast I just felt then?
Posted by jlg (# 98) on
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Originally posted by Leaf:
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Originally posted by Patdys:
Don't piss in my lunchbox, thank you very much.
Patdys (Pure as the Driven Yellow Snow)
In fact I had your original name in mind, and let the readers understand. The prop for this point in the play would not have been white. I'm sure it would have gotten big laughs.
I'm surely not the only one who has the Frank Zappa/Mothers of Invention tune now on auto-play inside my head. I suspect the Stealer of Small Rodents does.
Posted by The Silent Acolyte (# 1158) on
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Give meeeee....
...your dirty looove
Posted by art dunce (# 9258) on
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jlg posted: I'm surely not the only one who has the Frank Zappa/Mothers of Invention tune now on auto-play inside my head. I suspect the Stealer of Small Rodents does.
Must have something to do with him since the other day his tangent about incense had me humming " Camarillo Brillo" all day.
Posted by Latchkey Kid (# 12444) on
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Originally posted by Marvin the Martian:
So fuck off, then. Ain't like we'd miss you.
Unlike some we'd like to miss.
Posted by Sober Preacher's Kid (# 12699) on
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Originally posted by The Silent Acolyte:
Give meeeee....
...your dirty looove
I'll have you know I showered today.
Posted by Lyda*Rose (# 4544) on
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Originally posted by Firenze:
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Originally posted by leo:
Why should he? I never have when called to Hell - it's a statement of contempt not to do so.
I always saw it as cowardice myself.
If I ever get called to Hell that would be my reason for suddenly being scarce. I won't stand on my dignity.
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Posted by Balaam (# 4543) on
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Originally posted by Latchkey Kid:
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Originally posted by Marvin the Martian:
So fuck off, then. Ain't like we'd miss you.
Unlike some we'd like to miss.
Not if you aim carefully.
Posted by Patdys (# 9397) on
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Originally posted by Leaf:
quote:
Originally posted by Patdys:
Don't piss in my lunchbox, thank you very much.
Patdys (Pure as the Driven Yellow Snow)
In fact I had your original name in mind, and let the readers understand. The prop for this point in the play would not have been white. I'm sure it would have gotten big laughs.
A dear old Foaming friend once texted me a photo he took that reminded him of me... ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
.
Posted by Evensong (# 14696) on
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Originally posted by Niteowl2:
We could start roasting random members on a monthly basis just to whip up the embers.
Fantastic idea!
Should we start with Lyda*Rose?
She's just so good.
Yet personally I was hoping Alfred would go for Sioni Sais.
I don't like his beard.
[ 11. August 2011, 11:27: Message edited by: Evensong ]
Posted by leo (# 1458) on
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Originally posted by Firenze:
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Originally posted by leo:
Why should he? I never have when called to Hell - it's a statement of contempt not to do so.
I always saw it as cowardice myself.
No. True, I don't like the mud-slinging but when I have been called to hell it has been:
a) because I champion Islam
b) I think some evangelical theology is shallow.
I don't think I need further to justify my views, having already done so in Purgatory or whatever.
Posted by leo (# 1458) on
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Originally posted by Imaginary Friend:
leo is admitting to being contemptuous?
Indeed, and why not? Just because I am not a snob, doesn't mean that some people are not worth arguing with because they do not/will not understand a issue.
Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on
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Boy, did someone die in here? The self satisfied smog is overwhelming.
Posted by Firenze (# 619) on
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Originally posted by leo:
when I have been called to hell it has been:
a) because I champion Islam
b) I think some evangelical theology is shallow.
The call for causing the book thread to sink under pretension overload - which was that? Islam or evangelical theology?
Posted by AristonAstuanax (# 10894) on
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Shhh, even mentioning that would be beneath him. He has more important things to do, like copying Amazon customer reviews and posting them in the book thread.
Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on
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My bet is dust jackets.
Posted by Curiosity killed ... (# 11770) on
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I just wish I recognised one of the books I've read and leo's review as the bearing some relation to one another.
Posted by RooK (# 1852) on
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Originally posted by leo:
Just because I am not a snob [snip]
I instinctively leaned out of the way of the metaphorical lightning strike for that assertion.
leo, if we charged you for the amount of throbbing snobbery you convulsively inflict upon these bulletin boards, we'd be fucking rich. Please, just stop deluding yourself.
Posted by comet (# 10353) on
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Originally posted by RooK:
throbbing snobbery
I'm stealing this. you can't stop me.
Posted by Lamb Chopped (# 5528) on
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You need to add to that the "thrumming jealousy" of a few years back. Golden words.
Posted by leo (# 1458) on
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Originally posted by AristonAstuanax:
Shhh, even mentioning that would be beneath him. He has more important things to do, like copying Amazon customer reviews and posting them in the book thread.
Clever - some one is doing some research. The reviews on Amazon that I summarise on these boards are, in fact, my own - they have my name against them.
Posted by leo (# 1458) on
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Originally posted by Curiosity killed ...:
I just wish I recognised one of the books I've read and leo's review as the bearing some relation to one another.
Well, I have written reviews in peer-reviewed academic journals.
Maybe you don't read those sort of books.
Posted by chive (# 208) on
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Leo, you are such a snobbish cunt.
Posted by Zach82 (# 3208) on
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It's all well and good to be the sort that is smarter and knows more than everyone else, Leo, but some of us have the decency to not lord it over everyone.
Zach
Posted by Firenze (# 619) on
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Originally posted by RooK:
Please, just stop deluding yourself.
If leo did that there would be nothing of him left.
Zach82, if you think leo's claims to superiority have any actual basis, you haven't read enough of his posts.
Still waiting to hear what was Islamic about the book thread call.
Posted by Sober Preacher's Kid (# 12699) on
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Originally posted by leo:
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Originally posted by Curiosity killed ...:
I just wish I recognised one of the books I've read and leo's review as the bearing some relation to one another.
Well, I have written reviews in peer-reviewed academic journals.
Maybe you don't read those sort of books.
Wikipedia doesn't count, please try again.
Posted by Sine Nomine (# 66) on
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Originally posted by leo:
I have written reviews in peer-reviewed academic journals.
Have I ever mentioned Queen Elizabeth waved at me once? It's true. I swear.
(Somehow when I imagine leo's peers, Pee-wee Herman comes to mind.)
Posted by Sioni Sais (# 5713) on
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Originally posted by leo:
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Originally posted by Curiosity killed ...:
I just wish I recognised one of the books I've read and leo's review as the bearing some relation to one another.
Well, I have written reviews in peer-reviewed academic journals.
Maybe you don't read those sort of books.
Peer-reviewed. Ah yes. You scratch my back, I'll scratch yours.
Posted by fletcher christian (# 13919) on
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posted by Leo the not-so-great
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Well, I have written reviews in peer-reviewed academic journals.
Well get you, you fatuous dribbling old goat. ![[Projectile]](graemlins/puke2.gif)
Posted by AristonAstuanax (# 10894) on
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Originally posted by leo:
Well, I have written reviews in peer-reviewed academic journals.
And, as someone else who's done the same, let's burst your bubble for a moment: book reviews in academic journals don't mean shit. They're pretty much just CV padding, writing/dealing with journals practice for grad students, or something the journal sticks at the back to make its pages come out to a multiple of 16. Any fool can write one—Hell, they let me do it!—since all that's required is someone handing you one of the fifteen thousand books a journal's office gets every week and you writing some BS about something pretty much nobody else (especially the people who let you write the review) will ever read.
So don't act like you're special for doing something I'd reckon more than a few people here on the Ship have done.
Posted by Doc Tor (# 9748) on
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Originally posted by AristonAstuanax:
So don't act like you're special for doing something I'd reckon more than a few people here on the Ship have done.
You forgot to mention they let you keep the books - specialist academic publishers charge like a wounded rhino for those things. ![[Yipee]](graemlins/spin.gif)
Posted by Think² (# 1984) on
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I'll see you a Queen, Sine, and raise you a not-quite-recognised-as-a-saint-yet - Mother Teresa - I was prayed over no less. That's what makes me the nice hellhost.
I don't know if it elevates me above the level of Leo's contempt though ...
[ 12. August 2011, 19:53: Message edited by: Think² ]
Posted by Ariel (# 58) on
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Originally posted by leo:
Well, I have written reviews in peer-reviewed academic journals.
I expect you probably have, but that isn't really what the book thread is about. It's not really about posting frequent reviews of what you read for work, or something you've been asked to read, or something you've been paid a fee for reading. It's more about what you read for pleasure and what's made a particular impression on you. We could probably all post about what we read because we have to, or what we read for work, and it would likely make for some pretty uninspiring reading, worthy though it is.
Go on, read something frivolous for a change. It'll do you good.
Posted by Ricardus (# 8757) on
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Originally posted by Think2:
I'll see you a Queen, Sine, and raise you a not-quite-recognised-as-a-saint-yet - Mother Teresa - I was prayed over no less. That's what makes me the nice hellhost.
I don't know if it elevates me above the level of Leo's contempt though ...
A Premiership Footballer's Dog barked at me once. I don't know why, the telescopic zoom lens was none of its business ...
I also once met someone who was so ignorant he'd never even heard of leo. But he's not worth bothering about, because he had different views from leo on Judaism and Islam, and was therefore obviously an Islamophobic anti-Semite.
[ 12. August 2011, 20:00: Message edited by: Ricardus ]
Posted by Spiffy (# 5267) on
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Originally posted by leo:
Well, I have written reviews in peer-reviewed academic journals.
You do know you're not supposed to write in the margins of library copies of journals, because the librarians get quite cross with you when you do.
[edited because I can't spel.]
[ 12. August 2011, 21:58: Message edited by: Spiffy ]
Posted by Scarlet (# 1738) on
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Originally posted by Think²:
I'll see you a Queen, Sine, and raise you a not-quite-recognised-as-a-saint-yet - Mother Teresa - I was prayed over no less. That's what makes me the nice hellhost.
I don't know if it elevates me above the level of Leo's contempt though ...
I'm gonna trump with Jimmy Swaggart. (and I swear to God I babbled in tongues as I fell over from his prayer...)
Posted by Siegfried (# 29) on
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Originally posted by Sine Nomine:
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Originally posted by leo:
I have written reviews in peer-reviewed academic journals.
Have I ever mentioned Queen Elizabeth waved at me once? It's true. I swear.
(Somehow when I imagine leo's peers, Pee-wee Herman comes to mind.)
I once exchanged the peace with Mr. Rogers...
Posted by Chorister (# 473) on
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This exchange reminds me of those 'Do you know who I am?' nursing home jokes.
Although this one is better.
I somehow imagine Leo as the invigilator and RooK as the student.
Posted by Taliesin (# 14017) on
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Is it a nursing home joke? I thought it was a restaurant joke...
Posted by Ricardus (# 8757) on
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Originally posted by Taliesin:
Is it a nursing home joke? I thought it was a restaurant joke...
The one I know is:
Nurse: I'm afraid I can't let you in, sir.
Important Visitor: Excuse me, do you know who I am?
Nurse: No, dear, but if you go and ask the ward sister I'm sure she'll be able to tell you.
Posted by Evensong (# 14696) on
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Originally posted by Siegfried:
I once exchanged the peace with Mr. Rogers...
Mr Rogers?
Posted by Pooks (# 11425) on
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Originally posted by Evensong:
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Originally posted by Siegfried:
I once exchanged the peace with Mr. Rogers...
Mr Rogers?
Not... surely not...the great Will Rogers?
Posted by Doc Tor (# 9748) on
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The real problem I have is that all the famous people I know are either scientists or SF/F authors - who are highly regarded in their field, but pretty much unknown outside.
Just like me ![[Waterworks]](graemlins/bawling.gif)
Posted by Moo (# 107) on
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Originally posted by Ricardus:
The one I know is:
Nurse: I'm afraid I can't let you in, sir.
Important Visitor: Excuse me, do you know who I am?
Nurse: No, dear, but if you go and ask the ward sister I'm sure she'll be able to tell you.
Apparently Southwest Airlines has instructed its agents to do this when someone demands immediate service, saying, "Do you know who I am?" The agent takes the microphone and announces, "There is a man here who does not know who he is. If anyone can identify him, please come to the Southwest desk." Naturally, the self-important individual wilts.
My son-in-law saw this happen once, and I have heard the same story from others.
Moo
[ 13. August 2011, 12:45: Message edited by: Moo ]
Posted by leo (# 1458) on
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Originally posted by leo:
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Originally posted by AristonAstuanax:
Shhh, even mentioning that would be beneath him. He has more important things to do, like copying Amazon customer reviews and posting them in the book thread.
Clever - some one is doing some research. The reviews on Amazon that I summarise on these boards are, in fact, my own - they have my name against them.
Are you going to withdraw your imputation of plagiarism re- the above?
Posted by leo (# 1458) on
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Originally posted by Chorister:
...Although this one is better.
I somehow imagine Leo as the invigilator and RooK as the student.
Amusing clip. However, to be pedantic, all the students would have failed on a technicality were it in England or Wales, since the exam boards stipulate that the students must remain seated, in silence, while the invigilators collect all scripts directly from their desks. Only then may they leave the room - in silence.
Posted by RooK (# 1852) on
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Give it up, you plagiarizing suckhard.
Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on
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That would only, once again, bring me to ask the question:
Do I know who you are?*
Presumably these Amazon reviews and peer-reviewed journals are submitted under your real name.
I certainly don't know that and would expect others are in the same boat.
*The ward sister knows, I'm sure.
[oooh, a cross-post with a Kindly One™ who expressed in one succinct sentence what took me paragraphs!]
[ 13. August 2011, 14:09: Message edited by: PeteC ]
Posted by leo (# 1458) on
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quote:
Originally posted by PeteC:
That would only, once again, bring me to ask the question:
Do I know who you are?*
Presumably these Amazon reviews and peer-reviewed journals are submitted under your real name.
I certainly don't know that and would expect others are in the same boat.
*The ward sister knows, I'm sure.
Yes, under my real name, as I have already pointed out to AristonAstuanax twice.
Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on
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leo minor responded to Chorister:
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to be pedantic
What an amazing insight!
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Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on
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Originally posted by leo:
Yes, under my real name, as I have already pointed out to AristonAstuanax twice.
Oooh, how jolly! But I point out, yet again, to you that no-one outside your small coterie of friends in the UK, knows your real name.
[ 13. August 2011, 14:22: Message edited by: PeteC ]
Posted by Curiosity killed ... (# 11770) on
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You wish, PeteC. (related to the pedantry quote)
An amazing lack of self-awarenes is being demonstrated, along with the pedantry, snobbery and assumptions that just because he says so, shipmates should believe that some random person off the internet isn't just plagiarising stuff and calling it their own.
eta - cross post, with PeteC's last post
[ 13. August 2011, 14:22: Message edited by: Curiosity killed ... ]
Posted by Pearl B4 Swine (# 11451) on
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What's a invigilator ? Some kind of a dildo?
BTW, I think more of you would look up to me if you knew that I was the page-turner for the organist at Dwight Eisenhower's funeral, at the National Cathedral. Any number of truly important people were there, and none of them made even a hint of bad comment about my performance.
Posted by Josephine (# 3899) on
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Originally posted by Evensong:
quote:
Originally posted by Siegfried:
I once exchanged the peace with Mr. Rogers...
Mr Rogers?
Fred Rogers. Although, to most of us, I think, he has no need of a first name. He is simply the Mr. Rogers.
Posted by Anglican't (# 15292) on
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Originally posted by leo:
quote:
Originally posted by Chorister:
...Although this one is better.
I somehow imagine Leo as the invigilator and RooK as the student.
Amusing clip. However, to be pedantic, all the students would have failed on a technicality were it in England or Wales, since the exam boards stipulate that the students must remain seated, in silence, while the invigilators collect all scripts directly from their desks. Only then may they leave the room - in silence.
Perhaps this was an internal exam?
Posted by leo (# 1458) on
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Hadn't thought of that (though the phrase conjures up some sort of medical examination with rubber gloves in odd places).
Then again, we have always tried to run 'mock' exams as close to the real thing as possible so that students are trained long in advance of sitting externals.
Posted by Anglican't (# 15292) on
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Perhaps those cheeky Aussies just like to throw caution to the wind when preparing mock exams?
Posted by Ricardus (# 8757) on
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No - as the Archbishop was saying to me in Synod yesterday - UK exams must ALWAYS be carried out in accordance with best practice regulations - as I sit on the exam board's regional under-sub-sub-sub-commmittee I have some experience of these matters.
"Indeed, it is often considered ... pedagogical ... optimisation ... value-added ... framework ... target action plan ... checklist ... competencies ... key skills ... core outcome action framework target plan."
-- Dr Herbert McSporran, Discussion-Stifling Quotations for Bulletin Board Users (Bognor Regis: University Press, 2004)
Posted by leo (# 1458) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Ricardus:
No - as the Archbishop was saying to me in Synod yesterday
Synod did not meet yesterday. ![[Biased]](wink.gif)
Posted by Sober Preacher's Kid (# 12699) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Pearl B4 Swine:
What's a invigilator ? Some kind of a dildo?
BTW, I think more of you would look up to me if you knew that I was the page-turner for the organist at Dwight Eisenhower's funeral, at the National Cathedral. Any number of truly important people were there, and none of them made even a hint of bad comment about my performance.
Close. An Invigilitor is the person who sits in the exam room and makes sure you don't cheat. They also collect your exam and return it to wherever exams go.
That's the theory anyway. I had one Invigiliator who left the room in the middle of a math exam I was writing. I then saw him through the window, looking in while smoking a cigarette.
The world "dildo" springs to mind. ![[Disappointed]](graemlins/disappointed.gif)
Posted by chive (# 208) on
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I had an invigilator who would arrive at exams with a big box of sweeties and half way through the exam would put one on every desk.
That doesn't take away from the fact that leo is a cock though.
Posted by Ricardus (# 8757) on
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quote:
Originally posted by leo:
quote:
Originally posted by Ricardus:
No - as the Archbishop was saying to me in Synod yesterday
Synod did not meet yesterday.
OK, I'll admit that was quite nicely played ...
Posted by Leaf (# 14169) on
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I never post in the contemptible board called Hell, until I do.
Posted by Niteowl2 (# 15841) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Leaf:
I never post in the contemptible board called Hell, until I do.
Does that then make you contemptible?
Posted by Leaf (# 14169) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Niteowl2:
quote:
Originally posted by Leaf:
I never post in the contemptible board called Hell, until I do.
Does that then make you contemptible?
Certainly not. I am a pure and spotless Girardian lamb, here to be scapegoated by your vicarious violence, as I defend my virtuous causes.
Posted by leo (# 1458) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Leaf:
I never post in the contemptible board called Hell, until I do.
Fair do's - but I am defending myself in The Styx and am only responding to allegations of plagiarism here. I do not respond to playground bullying. As a teacher, I just walked slowly towards it so that it melted away before I had to deal with it by cracking heads.
Posted by leo (# 1458) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Leaf:
quote:
Originally posted by Niteowl2:
quote:
Originally posted by Leaf:
I never post in the contemptible board called Hell, until I do.
Does that then make you contemptible?
Certainly not. I am a pure and spotless Girardian lamb, here to be scapegoated by your vicarious violence, as I defend my virtuous causes.
Girard - well done. You have done your homework. Alpha minus.
Posted by leo (# 1458) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Curiosity killed ...:
I just wish I recognised one of the books I've read and leo's review as the bearing some relation to one another.
If you could tell me one of these books, I will gladly correspond with you about the differences. Until such time, this is just a hearsay allegation that argues that either you or I, or both, are ignorant or have too much to read.
[ 13. August 2011, 19:57: Message edited by: leo ]
Posted by leo (# 1458) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Ariel:
quote:
Originally posted by leo:
Well, I have written reviews in peer-reviewed academic journals.
I expect you probably have, but that isn't really what the book thread is about. It's not really about posting frequent reviews of what you read for work, or something you've been asked to read, or something you've been paid a fee for reading. It's more about what you read for pleasure and what's made a particular impression on you. We could probably all post about what we read because we have to, or what we read for work, and it would likely make for some pretty uninspiring reading, worthy though it is.
Go on, read something frivolous for a change. It'll do you good.
See my comment in The Styx.
Posted by Sober Preacher's Kid (# 12699) on
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quote:
Originally posted by chive:
I had an invigilator who would arrive at exams with a big box of sweeties and half way through the exam would put one on every desk.
That doesn't take away from the fact that leo is a cock though.
Inded, leo is a penis. His public wanking session here in Hell caused him to ejaculate all the way up to the Styx.
I believe that counts as cumming right in RooK's face.
Posted by Chesterbelloc (# 3128) on
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SPK, might I tentatively suggest that "you've taken that too far"?
Posted by AristonAstuanax (# 10894) on
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Holy Fuck, leo, would you rather I said you got your "book reviews" off the back of the book? I wasn't accusing you of plagiarism, but rather of being a pompous pseudo-inellectual blowhard who makes lots of posts about dense-sounding books to make himself sound smarter.
So far, your reaction to all this, including in the Styx, has pretty much confirmed my judgment to stay away from threads you post in. You know why I've never interacted with you? It's because your posts are so damn tedious and autoerotic that the time spent reading them to engage with you would be a waste. The only reason I force myself to do so now is to keep an eye on what the issues are on other boards before they become problems on mine!
[ 13. August 2011, 22:16: Message edited by: AristonAstuanax ]
Posted by rugasaw (# 7315) on
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quote:
Originally posted by leo:
I do not respond to playground bullying. As a teacher, I just walked slowly towards it so that it melted away before I had to deal with it by cracking heads.
I hope to God you did more than just let the playground bullying melt away. Teachers should do their best to make school a safe place and that means no tolerance for bullying.
Posted by Ariel (# 58) on
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quote:
Originally posted by leo:
See my comment in The Styx.
OK, having now had time to compose a reply and found that RooK isn't in favour of having it posted there, it can go here.
quote:
Originally posted by leo:
On the specific issues of the book thread, it asked ‘Between the Covers (whatya reading?)’ not what did you read for pleasure.
I think the OPer probably assumed, as most of us did, that it would be about recreational reading, and most probably fiction. Tacit assumption, but I believe this to be a mainstream one, given the tenor of the vast majority of responses.
quote:
– I take great pleasure in all sorts of books, especially academic books and I take great pleasure in my work, which is very lucky for me as many hate their work. I Love it.
Excellent. Glad to hear you enjoy all sorts of books, other than just theology.
quote:
So why have the following non-frivolous people been called to Hell?:
(I'm assuming you left out the word "not" there.) Because most of these people have posted what are clearly one-offs. It's not as if they regularly and frequently post the same kind of non-fiction books almost on a daily basis - which can give the impression that someone is working their way down a reading list and essentially making journal notes on when they read what; or else that they are in the business of reviewing books. A sprinkling of these things would be fine and perfectly acceptable. Something that particularly impressed you or that you particularly disliked; just not a catalogue of everything read recently.
Sorry, Leo. I don't dislike you, but from your postings to the book thread, I just think that you would benefit from at times putting some of the heavy stuff aside and doing something light, yes, even superficial, purely for the fun of it. I'm sure the theology books provide you with a lot of intellectual stimulation and food for thought. But when did they last make you laugh, or move you emotionally?
Ah well. We are as we are, but "all things in moderation" is still as true today as when first put forward.
Posted by Curiosity killed ... (# 11770) on
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quote:
Originally posted by leo:
quote:
Originally posted by Curiosity killed ...:
I just wish I recognised one of the books I've read and leo's review as the bearing some relation to one another.
If you could tell me one of these books, I will gladly correspond with you about the differences. Until such time, this is just a hearsay allegation that argues that either you or I, or both, are ignorant or have too much to read.
I can't remember them all - but the reason I called you to Hell for this last year was the combination of the daily posts of worthy books showing off erudition, rather than saying "Oh, wow, have you read this, it's fantastic" which is rather what I thought the book thread was aiming for, and the fact that of the books on the daily reading list posted I really didn't recognise any of the books I'd read as the same books. I hadn't read enough of them to be certain, and the Hell call was partly in the hope others had picked this up too.
One book in particular that has stuck in my mind because it was the Lent book we used in 2010 was one of the Robert Warren and Sue Mayfield Life books - in which your book review made absolutely no mention of the fact that it's not a reading book, but structured course notes exploring a theme, and you don't sit down and read it, that's not the point of it. I also didn't recognise what you said the book was about either, my impression of your review was that you'd read the sleeve notes only.
But there were several others that I don't remember now, and life is far too short to go through last year's book thread to prove a point.
Posted by Evensong (# 14696) on
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Oh for fuck's sake people, get over it.
leo isn't as bad as Yorick or Mudfrog or Ingo or Curiosity killed... or Zach or Sioni Sais*
They are most certainly going to hell.
leo is just a head person.
(* but only for his beard)
[ 14. August 2011, 11:42: Message edited by: Evensong ]
Posted by Amos (# 44) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Evensong:
Oh for fuck's sake people, get over it.
leo isn't as bad as Yorick or Mudfrog or Ingo or Curiosity killed... or Zach or Sioni Sais*
They are most certainly going to hell.
leo is just a head person.
(* but only for his beard)
'Everyone to his own fancy,' as the old woman said when she kissed the cow.
Posted by Evensong (# 14696) on
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That's a bit of a soft, pomo response Amos. Surely you can do better than that. Being an ancient shippie 'n all.
Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on
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Evensong, I wish you would get over it. But I don't think I'll get my wish, because you sure as fuck can't or won't.
Posted by Ricardus (# 8757) on
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quote:
Originally posted by PeteC:
Evensong, I wish you would get over it. But I don't think I'll get my wish, because you sure as fuck can't or won't.
To be fair, Evensong raises a valid point. There are posters more annoying than leo. Evensong, for example.
Posted by Zach82 (# 3208) on
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quote:
Oh for fuck's sake people, get over it.
leo isn't as bad as Yorick or Mudfrog or Ingo or Curiosity killed... or Zach or Sioni Sais*
They are most certainly going to hell.
leo is just a head person.
(* but only for his beard)
Sigh... when it comes to Hell calls, I'm always the bridesmaid, never the bride.
Zach
Posted by leo (# 1458) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Evensong:
leo is just a head person.
(* but only for his beard)
Too late - I shaved it off (in Berlin) because it was going grey.
Posted by Gamaliel (# 812) on
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I think you'll find, leo, that Evensong's reference was to Sioni Sais's beard rather than yours.
Sioni nicked his from Cezanne.
Posted by rugasaw (# 7315) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Evensong:
That's a bit of a soft, pomo response Amos. Surely you can do better than that. Being an ancient shippie 'n all.
He just compared you to a cow kisser. What do you want, to be called a goat fucker?
Posted by Lamb Chopped (# 5528) on
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Love this hell thread, people grabbing the spotlight one after another. It's sort of like Hell Idol.
Posted by Firenze (# 619) on
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I think I'm squirrelling that idea away for the next H&As (you will, of course, be credited as the onlie begetter).
Posted by Lamb Chopped (# 5528) on
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![[Snigger]](graemlins/snigger.gif)
Posted by Evensong (# 14696) on
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quote:
Originally posted by rugasaw:
quote:
Originally posted by Evensong:
That's a bit of a soft, pomo response Amos. Surely you can do better than that. Being an ancient shippie 'n all.
He just compared you to a cow kisser. What do you want, to be called a goat fucker?
I like cows. They're holy in some places ya know.
quote:
Originally posted by Firenze:
I think I'm squirrelling that idea away for the next H&As (you will, of course, be credited as the onlie begetter).
Onlie begetter? Is that in the creeds?
Posted by Lamb Chopped (# 5528) on
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See the quotation at the start of this.
Posted by Evensong (# 14696) on
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LOL. Thought it was a typo.
Come to think of it Lamb Chopped, we could also have a Heaven Idol on the H&A's day. You would certainly make at least the quarter finals.
Bless your cotton socks.
Posted by JFH (# 14794) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Evensong:
quote:
Originally posted by rugasaw:
quote:
Originally posted by Evensong:
That's a bit of a soft, pomo response Amos. Surely you can do better than that. Being an ancient shippie 'n all.
He just compared you to a cow kisser. What do you want, to be called a goat fucker?
I like cows. They're holy in some places ya know.
Isn't Leo too?
[eta: code fix]
[ 15. August 2011, 07:27: Message edited by: JFH ]
Posted by Think² (# 1984) on
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He certainly thinks he is. It is that complete lack of humility that really gets up winds people to be honest - rather than any of his specific theological or social opinions.
Posted by The Great Gumby (# 10989) on
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Oh come on, that's not fair - there's the sanctimonious pomposity as well.
Posted by fletcher christian (# 13919) on
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maybe he's short
Posted by MSHB (# 9228) on
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quote:
Originally posted by fletcher christian:
maybe he's short
Maybe he's your height.
Posted by Evensong (# 14696) on
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quote:
Originally posted by MSHB:
quote:
Originally posted by fletcher christian:
maybe he's short
Maybe he's your height.
![[Killing me]](graemlins/killingme.gif)
Posted by Beeswax Altar (# 11644) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Siegfried:
quote:
Originally posted by Sine Nomine:
quote:
Originally posted by leo:
I have written reviews in peer-reviewed academic journals.
Have I ever mentioned Queen Elizabeth waved at me once? It's true. I swear.
(Somehow when I imagine leo's peers, Pee-wee Herman comes to mind.)
I once exchanged the peace with Mr. Rogers...
![[Overused]](graemlins/notworthy.gif)
Posted by leo (# 1458) on
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quote:
Originally posted by fletcher christian:
maybe he's short
6 foot 6
Posted by Zach82 (# 3208) on
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There you go, lording your height over all of us. You jerk.
Zach
Posted by Sine Nomine (# 66) on
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Internet inches?
Posted by Ariel (# 58) on
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In these days of recession and economic doom and gloom I have to ask, do you really need quite so many inches?
Posted by Sine Nomine (# 66) on
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Leo is a size queen in so many, many ways.
Posted by Lyda*Rose (# 4544) on
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Now, people, leo can't help that he is smart, tall, and erudite and knows it. Bless his heart.
Posted by Zach82 (# 3208) on
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He could at least write with shorter words and stoop when around us.
Zach
Posted by Alfred E. Neuman (# 6855) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Sine Nomine:
Internet inches?
The reach should always exceed ones grasp.
Posted by Sioni Sais (# 5713) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Zach82:
He could at least write with shorter words and stoop when around us.
Zach
I'd be happier with fewer words.
Posted by fletcher christian (# 13919) on
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laying the traps is just too easy for this one
Posted by QLib (# 43) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Alfred E. Neuman:
quote:
Originally posted by Sine Nomine:
Internet inches?
The reach should always exceed ones grasp.
"Or what's a Heaven for?" (Browning)
Posted by Alfred E. Neuman (# 6855) on
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I was wondering which of you Victorian pedants would step forward with an attribution.
“There, that is our secret: go to sleep! You will wake, and remember, and understand.”
Posted by Eutychus (# 3081) on
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Speaking of attributions...
quote:
Originally posted by leo, here:
quote:
Originally posted by Eutychus:
OK. Pending leo's explanation of his absent colon
Rook said,"And, NO, I don't want to discuss leo here any more. Please stop, and keep that misery in Hell where it belongs." above. So it isn't pending any more.
Well, since you appear to have run under Rook's skirts in the Styx, let's bring it here, where it's still pending.
You claimed to have attributed the text quoted en bloc in this post by your innovative use of a colon to signify "anything after this point may be a quotation".
As has been pointed out, in that instance, there ain't no colon.
Rather than own up to this on the Styx thread, you instead appear to attempt to justify taking the words out of others' mouths and passing them off as your own by referring to some socialist notion of the non-ownership of ideas (here).
(Unfortunately for you, as I argued here, while the article makes for a mildly interesting read on the rights and wrongs of copyright and intellectual property, irrespective of the politics, it actually sympathises with the objection to the wilful presentation of words penned by others as one's own without due attribution).
So which is it? Are you going to fess up and admit there's no colon where you claim there was? Or are you going to try and worm your way out of it on ideological grounds?
Posted by Molopata The Rebel (# 9933) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Zach82:
quote:
Oh for fuck's sake people, get over it.
leo isn't as bad as Yorick or Mudfrog or Ingo or Curiosity killed... or Zach or Sioni Sais*
They are most certainly going to hell.
leo is just a head person.
(* but only for his beard)
Sigh... when it comes to Hell calls, I'm always the bridesmaid, never the bride.
Zach
Well if it is any consolation to you, I once very nearly did furnish you with your very own hell thread, but then I figured it would just amount to the worst hell call ever.
Try harder next time and I might well ask for your hand...
There again, I'd rather you didn't bother.
Posted by The Silent Acolyte (# 1158) on
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quote:
Eutychus offers us this twisted thought:
...under Rook's skirts...
Now that is a truly disturbing image, whether it be leo in the Styx or Miss Scarlett in the Lounge.
Posted by Yorick (# 12169) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Eutychus:
So which is it? Are you going to fess up and admit there's no colon where you claim there was? Or are you going to try and worm your way out of it on ideological grounds?
Um, why does it matter? I mean, seriously. What do you want from this person? A confession and apology for trying to make himself appear clever on an internet discussion board by allowing people to think he's some sort of great literary critic? So the fuck what? What if he does admit it? Will that help you to sleep at night? Do you need his confession and apology to affirm your life in some way? If he refuses, your having rather cornered him, why should you care?
Why do people get so heated up about this sort of shit on here?
Posted by Alfred E. Neuman (# 6855) on
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People tend to get their hackles up over phonies, Yorick. But then, you knew that.
Posted by Chesterbelloc (# 3128) on
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[x-p'd with Alf, who was spot-on.]
I can't answer for Eutychus, but it matters for me as simple matter of honesty - let's say "integrity", to cover all the bases.
I can't know whether anyone on these boards is really straight with us all or not, of course, unless I know him/her IRL. Having subsequently met IRL at least one person I've had serious issues with on the Ship , I know him to be "for real" and (ISTM) a really decent chap.
But I know leo on several occasions to have been challenged on distinctly dodgy lines of argument and then him back them up with stuff that subsequently turns out to have been lifted whole and entire from other sources without anything like proper attribution (in some cases without attribution at all). Usually, such tactics fail to address the issues raised at all, so do not in fact strengthen his case.
But, when called on it, he usually denies that he has done any such thing: sometimes he claims he made it clear he was quoting, sometimes he claims to be ignorant of the source, sometimes he claims he was paraphrasing, and sometimes he claims all of the above at the same time.
In other words, despite being repeatedly called on this - over a span of years, by Hosts as well as plain shippies - he continues to be profoundly misleading (at best) and outright deceptive (at worst) and rather than fess up, he always prevaricates and throws smoke in our eyes. But his deceit and evasion are so obvious as to constitute an insult.
The worst thing about his conduct, as far as I'm concerned, is that it is a mad-making cocktail of dismissve arrogance, pseudo-intellectualism, slipperiness and (comparative) ignorance. Haughty but naughty.*
If nothing else, it is deeply contemptuous of the intelligence and integrity of his fellow shippies and (if he but knew it) makes him look really rather shabby.
Och, I'll stop there because part of my frustration is that I rather like the daft spud - and that just leads to vicarious cringing. He's not exacttly the Stalin of the Ship. But if he just cut the fibs he'd be so much better a shipmate.
*In the Prayer Book sense.
[ 16. August 2011, 21:16: Message edited by: Chesterbelloc ]
Posted by Eutychus (# 3081) on
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It annoys me for much the same reasons as Chesterbelloc's given.
If it makes you happy, Yorick, I'll admit it. People who, rather than admit they've made a mistake, hunker down (or in this case, hilariously, go crying to an admin), divert attention, quote articles hoping to blind with science, and eventually, when cornered, just shut up and hope people will forget before re-offending somewhere else, push all my buttons. Plus what I've said about undermining confidence.
Most of the "interaction" I've had with leo has been on the "seen any good films lately" thread (ie we are both habitual posters on it). I thought that thread was about people swapping their personal impressions of films they'd watched. That's certainly how I've contributed.
I'd thought before that leo had watched rather a large number; now I'm left wondering whether they aren't all just some cut-and-paste film reviews. It leaves a nasty taste, and it's an insult to other posters.
Posted by jacobsen (# 14998) on
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And I just called him arrogant. My self control astounds me. Sighs in self appreciation and luxurious Schadenfreude*
*Rejoicing in someone else's downfall, bad luck, outing....
Posted by Beeswax Altar (# 11644) on
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quote:
Originally posted by The Silent Acolyte:
quote:
Eutychus offers us this twisted thought:
...under Rook's skirts...
Now that is a truly disturbing image, whether it be leo in the Styx or Miss Scarlett in the Lounge.
I suspect Col. Mustard under Rook's skirts in the library with a wrench...
Posted by Dafyd (# 5549) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Beeswax Altar:
I suspect Col. Mustard under Rook's skirts in the library with a wrench...
I read that as 'wench'.
Posted by Beeswax Altar (# 11644) on
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Why do you think I chose wrench over all the other weapons? ![[Two face]](graemlins/scot_twoface.gif)
Posted by AristonAstuanax (# 10894) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Beeswax Altar:
quote:
Originally posted by The Silent Acolyte:
quote:
Eutychus offers us this twisted thought:
...under Rook's skirts...
Now that is a truly disturbing image, whether it be leo in the Styx or Miss Scarlett in the Lounge.
I suspect Col. Mustard under Rook's skirts in the library with a wrench...
Given the last game of Cluedo, I'm not exactly sure I'm comfortable with that image.
And just in case the skirt-chaser is reading this (though not replying), here's my take on the whole plagiarism/wiggling out shenanigans. Quite frankly, leo, you remind me of a particularly nasty breed of snowflake, the kind that is so convinced of his or her genius that they don't see the need to cite their sources, follow the directions, or admit that they're no smarter than the rest of their peers. These nasty students believe that their own Specialness makes them far better than anyone else in the classroom, or, for that matter, the teacher.
Everyone hates these people, mostly because they really aren't as bright as they think they are. They'll fling pseudo-credentials at you all day long, talk about how "everyone knows" X position, and, above all, get pissy at you when you ask them to follow instructions, especially for formatting, citations, etc. leo, there are a lot of people on this Ship who are at least as bright as you and don't give a damn about the smokescreen you throw up to convince us of your brilliance. If you just dropped the egomaniac act, we'd stop having problems with you—but don't feel the need to bullshit us.
But, on the off chance you do feel the need to whip out your e-penis, claiming that it's a foot long, just remember this: none of us are fooled. We can see through it all.
Posted by pjkirk (# 10997) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Beeswax Altar:
quote:
Originally posted by The Silent Acolyte:
quote:
Eutychus offers us this twisted thought:
...under Rook's skirts...
Now that is a truly disturbing image, whether it be leo in the Styx or Miss Scarlett in the Lounge.
I suspect Col. Mustard under Rook's skirts in the library with a wrench...
I don't want to know what that wrench is being used for.
Posted by RooK (# 1852) on
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I'd be afraid that the Colonel was under the impression that my nuts were stuck.
Posted by Firenze (# 619) on
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Time to bolt.
Posted by Yorick (# 12169) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Eutychus:
It annoys me…
…People who [behave in ways that annoy me] push all my buttons.
…It leaves a nasty taste, and it's an insult to other posters.
I think you’re missing something else. Look deep into your heart. You see that tiny glimmer of petty spite? Yes, there it is.
This place constantly fascinates me. The only, and I mean ONLY good thing about Christianity is the Prime Command to be nice, of which this place is replete with abject failure.
Posted by Ricardus (# 8757) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Yorick:
This place constantly fascinates me. The only, and I mean ONLY good thing about Christianity is the Prime Command to be nice, of which this place is replete with abject failure.
I love it when posters attack the Ship as a whole, while failing to notice that they themselves are aslo part of the Ship.
Anyway, "thou shalt be nice" isn't in the Bible. The Bible is full of insults, like "you brood of vipers" and all that business about lusting after the Egyptians with their big penises.
Posted by Yorick (# 12169) on
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Oh, yeah, I've just checked my Bible, and you're quite right:
quote:
Matthew 5:7 Blessed are the pettily spiteful: for they art perfect, as their heavenly Father is perfect.
Posted by Eutychus (# 3081) on
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[x-post, to Yorick]
Ooh, thanks, I've always wanted my personal online conscience.
Besides, I don't notice Jesus saying anything about being nice. I do notice him and his mates saying quite a lot about the truth, hypocrisy, double-talk and deceitfulness, and confronting one's brother on such things (In christian love of course ![[Axe murder]](graemlins/lovedrops.gif)
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(This sort of thing has happened before on the Ship (as you'd know if you read carefully enough) and I'd say the final outcome of confronting the issue was one of the best demonstrations of discipline, repentance, and restoration into the community I've ever seen; I just wish I'd seen as much in more real-life situations).
I came down here because leo claimed immunity in the Styx and I thought that was just too easy a cop-out.
Since posting here, I've noticed that he seems to have abandoned colons in favour of quotation marks (here), so you may be relieved for my soul's sake to hear that in an act of Christian charity, I'm prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt. It's just a shame he hasn't owned to the original absent colon.
[ 17. August 2011, 08:28: Message edited by: Eutychus ]
Posted by Yorick (# 12169) on
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No little flicker of spite in there, then? Just Christian concern and altruism?
I think I prefer a bit of honest to god old-fashioned snowflakiness.
Posted by Eutychus (# 3081) on
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Well, I'm searching my conscience, Yorick. There are lots of things in there I'm not very proud of, but I don't think spite's one of them. Maybe you can explain how you think I'm being spiteful?
Posted by Yorick (# 12169) on
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It just seems your remarkably enthusiastic though headachingly trivial pursuit of leo must be motivated by something or other, and it’s hard to believe it’s for the benefit of mankind.
Posted by IngoB (# 8700) on
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Originally posted by Yorick:
The only, and I mean ONLY good thing about Christianity is the Prime Command to be nice, of which this place is replete with abject failure.
Dude, WTF?! I would never, ever, in a billion years sign up for a religion of niceness. Many terrible, horrible things can be said about Christianity with some degree of justification, but that it is nice? - certainly not! Me thinks you are confusing Christianity with the English middle class.
Posted by Yorick (# 12169) on
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Pleas don't call me Dude, Ingo. It's honestly quite disturbing.
Posted by IngoB (# 8700) on
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Originally posted by Yorick:
Pleas don't call me Dude, Ingo. It's honestly quite disturbing.
Got it, mate.
Posted by Eutychus (# 3081) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Yorick:
It just seems your remarkably enthusiastic though headachingly trivial pursuit of leo must be motivated by something or other, and it’s hard to believe it’s for the benefit of mankind.
Oh, so "spite" was just the first adjective that came to hand in your dictionary?
As to benefits, I think I've argued the case re: the Ship quite enough without needing to rehash it again.
Dude.
Posted by Yorick (# 12169) on
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Originally posted by Eutychus:
Oh, so "spite" was just the first adjective that came to hand in your dictionary?
No, it was aardvarky, but that somehow didn't seem right.
[ 17. August 2011, 09:12: Message edited by: Yorick ]
Posted by Eutychus (# 3081) on
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Ah, now that happens to be one of my favourite words. I'd confess to aardvarkiness any day.
Posted by Anselmina (# 3032) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Yorick:
quote:
Originally posted by Eutychus:
It annoys me…
…People who [behave in ways that annoy me] push all my buttons.
…It leaves a nasty taste, and it's an insult to other posters.
I think you’re missing something else. Look deep into your heart. You see that tiny glimmer of petty spite? Yes, there it is.
This place constantly fascinates me. The only, and I mean ONLY good thing about Christianity is the Prime Command to be nice, of which this place is replete with abject failure.
Damn. Another memo I've missed from the Lord God on what Christians should be. That Jesus guy, and the Bible - so very un-nice - just keeps getting in the way. And why does he keep telling you these vital things? You don't even believe in the Christian's God - sheesh!
And btw, 'this place'? You are a self-subscribing member of 'this place'. You contribute to 'this place'. You help to make 'this place' what it is. You are in every way like everyone else who posts here a constitutent part of 'this place'. Accept your responsibility like a man.
Don't fool yourself that just because your prejudice compels you to look down your nose at other posters here, this actually makes you superior to them - or makes them deserving of your scorn. On an internet bulletin board we all stand or fall by what we post.
As the reading last Sunday said: don't think more of yourself than you really should.
Nice enough? (I mean it in love, of course)
Posted by Pre-cambrian (# 2055) on
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Originally posted by IngoB:
I would never, ever, in a billion years sign up for a religion of niceness.
I thought you signed up to a religion because you believed it was true, not because it didn't offend your own opinions of what a religion ought to be like.
Posted by Yorick (# 12169) on
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Originally posted by Eutychus:
I'd confess to aardvarkiness any day.
quote:
Aard·varky -adj.: behaviour characteristic of an aardvark (Orycteropus afer, from Greek ορυκτερόπους (orykterópous) meaning "digging footed" and afer: from Africa), viz., digging around in the dirt with a malicious, usually petty, desire to harm, annoy, frustrate, or humiliate another, typically invertebrate, creature; bitter ill will; malice.; showing spite; malicious; malevolent; venomous: an aardvarky child.
![[Razz]](tongue.gif)
Posted by Eutychus (# 3081) on
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I'm almost tempted to cry plagiarism, but I'm more astounded that you seem to think leo's an invertebrate.
Posted by Yorick (# 12169) on
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It was plagiarism. Is anybody hurt?
Posted by Eutychus (# 3081) on
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It just seems your remarkably enthusiastic though headachingly trivial pursuit of Eutychus must be motivated by something or other, and it’s hard to believe it’s for the benefit of mankind.
Posted by Patdys (# 9397) on
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Better pursuit of you than something he could breed with.
Besides 'a' is the first word in my dictionary.
Does that make me a smart-aardvark?
Posted by Yerevan (# 10383) on
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quote:Originally posted by PeteC:
Evensong, I wish you would get over it. But I don't think I'll get my wish, because you sure as fuck can't or won't.
To be fair, Evensong raises a valid point. There are posters more annoying than leo. Evensong, for example.
Evensong and Leo have a lot in common. They both read a Big Book with Proper Footnotes once and have never come down off the high. Its a first year undergraddy thing.
Posted by Moo (# 107) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Patdys:
Better pursuit of you than something he could breed with.
Moo
Posted by IngoB (# 8700) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Pre-cambrian:
I thought you signed up to a religion because you believed it was true, not because it didn't offend your own opinions of what a religion ought to be like.
I do not believe that a religion of niceness can be true. (Mind you, to me truth is a necessary but not a sufficient condition for religion anyhow.)
Posted by Yorick (# 12169) on
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quote:
Originally posted by IngoB:
I do not believe that a religion of niceness can be true.
...and yet you believe a woman can give birth to God with an intact hymen?
Posted by leo (# 1458) on
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Originally posted by rugasaw:
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Originally posted by leo:
I do not respond to playground bullying. As a teacher, I just walked slowly towards it so that it melted away before I had to deal with it by cracking heads.
I hope to God you did more than just let the playground bullying melt away. Teachers should do their best to make school a safe place and that means no tolerance for bullying.
If you see a fight starting, with all the kids running towards it, the best approach is to walk slowly towards the 'epicentre' and then most of the kids will melt away (otherwise, they might catch on that they are in the majority). The two who are left in the middle can then be sent to the head of house for dealing with.
Posted by Spike (# 36) on
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That's crap. If bullying is going on and a teacher walks slowly towards them, of course the bully is going to stop and act all innocent. That's what bullies do. The one being bullied won't say anything either as he's shit scared of what will happen if he does. Of course, once the teacher walks away with the blinkered view that everything is OK, the bullying will start again.
If that was really your way of dealing with bullying, I'm glad you weren't a teacher at my school.
Posted by Gwai (# 11076) on
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Well, he didn't say it was the best approach for the kids. Perhaps it's just the best approach for the teacher!
Posted by Beeswax Altar (# 11644) on
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Originally posted by Yerevan:
quote:
quote:Originally posted by PeteC:
Evensong, I wish you would get over it. But I don't think I'll get my wish, because you sure as fuck can't or won't.
To be fair, Evensong raises a valid point. There are posters more annoying than leo. Evensong, for example.
Evensong and Leo have a lot in common. They both read a Big Book with Proper Footnotes once and have never come down off the high. Its a first year undergraddy thing.
You can't compare Evensong to Leo. Evensong doesn't take herself seriously. She recognizes when she's talking bollocks and admits it. Leo doubles down.
Posted by Taliesin (# 14017) on
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Is it time to retitle the thread yet?
I vote for 'fuck off, Yorick.'
Posted by leo (# 1458) on
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Originally posted by Spike:
That's crap. If bullying is going on and a teacher walks slowly towards them, of course the bully is going to stop and act all innocent. That's what bullies do. The one being bullied won't say anything either as he's shit scared of what will happen if he does. Of course, once the teacher walks away with the blinkered view that everything is OK, the bullying will start again.
If that was really your way of dealing with bullying, I'm glad you weren't a teacher at my school.
How many fights have you broken up? Over how many years? Have you read local authority and central government guidelines about fights and restraint? or dealt with parental appeals against exclusion? If your answer is 'yes', then I will dialogue with you. If not, why bother, since you do not know what you are talking about.
Posted by JoannaP (# 4493) on
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Leo,
You appear to be using the terms "fighting" and "bullying" as synonyms but, IME, they are very different things. I was frequently bullied at school but never involved in a fight.
Joanna
Posted by Sine Nomine (# 66) on
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Originally posted by leo:
…I will dialogue with you.
"I will dialogue". Oh dear God! Even if I knew nothing else that would tell me everything I needed to know.
Posted by Think² (# 1984) on
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"dialogue with you" ![[Confused]](confused.gif)
Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on
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That's Newspeak for something, but I am unclear just what.
Posted by Curiosity killed ... (# 11770) on
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Originally posted by PeteC:
That's Newspeak for something, but I am unclear just what.
dialogue with you 1 - if I think you are worthy to have a conversation I may possibly do so, if not I'll reiterate that I never post in Hell (until I do - thank you Leaf)
or possibly - dialogue with you 2 - I've spent far too much time writing policies and procedures and spent far too little time putting them into action so don't realise that I've completely lost the plot and any situation described bears little relation with reality
Posted by Sine Nomine (# 66) on
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leo lives in a world where 'dialogue' is a verb. He probably used to know better and he may occasionally suspect he's not as grand as he makes out but to paraphrase Mr. Churchill, he picks himself up and hurries off as if nothing ever happened.
Posted by Ariel (# 58) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Curiosity killed ...:
or possibly - dialogue with you 2 - I've spent far too much time writing* policies and procedures and spent far too little time putting them into action** so don't realise that I've completely lost the plot and any situation described bears little relation with reality
* That should be "authoring".
** That should be "actioning".
Posted by Taliesin (# 14017) on
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Originally posted by JoannaP:
Leo,
You appear to be using the terms "fighting" and "bullying" as synonyms but, IME, they are very different things. I was frequently bullied at school but never involved in a fight.
Joanna
Yes, I thought this.
I'd hope a fight would dissolve but bullying just relocates.
Posted by leo (# 1458) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Think²:
"dialogue with you"
Yes, I know - it is too much garbage speak and is what comes with nearly 40 years working for the public sector - but, hey, the pension is very good.
On the issue, I have thrown away/recycled my various copies of staff handbooks, with guidance from the five local authorities I have worked for, which all say the same about 'walking slowly' towards fights but I did find the following on the net:
: ‘A teachers' union is planning to write to all of its members warning them not to intervene in playground fights. The union said the "final straw" came when Glasgow City Council refused to let an injured teacher take time off to complete dental surgery. The Scottish Secondary Teachers' Association said staff would now be less inclined to break up disputes. Glasgow council said it judged claims on their individual merits and advised staff to not put themselves at risk.’ from here and ‘Teachers are hired to teach, not to be security personnel. The last thing you want to do is escalate, especially if you have no training about what to do in that situation… I can't fault them for not intervening. They weren't hired to be a bouncer; they were hired because they wanted to teach math. They have no obligation, IMHO, to intervene. If you want teachers to be bouncers, start hiring big muscled guys to do that, and train them appropriately….. The Duty of Care is not without its limits, however. A teacher is not expected.
As it happens, I don;t agree with either because it seems to me that they are a dereliction of duty to care... etc.
[pompous blowhard can't code links]
[ 18. August 2011, 06:59: Message edited by: Marvin the Martian ]
Posted by dj_ordinaire (# 4643) on
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So, nothing to do with bullying, then?
Posted by Beeswax Altar (# 11644) on
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Well, no, the teachers are worried they might be bullied. The poor children getting bullied will just have to take care of themselves. Where I graduated from high school, not only would the teachers break up the fight but the principal would call the police.
I broke up some fights once while working as a substitute. In one instance, the instigator got 3 licks from the assistant principal and 3 more licks from the teacher whose place I was taking. Next time I had him in a class, he was a model student.
Posted by Lyda*Rose (# 4544) on
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Sine Nomine: quote:
He {leo} probably used to know better and he may occasionally suspect he's not as grand as he makes out but to paraphrase Mr. Churchill, he picks himself up and hurries off as if nothing ever happened.
He sounds like one of my favorite animals- a cat! ![[Cool]](cool.gif)
Posted by leo (# 1458) on
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quote:
Originally posted by leo:
quote:
Originally posted by Think²:
"dialogue with you"
Yes, I know - it is too much garbage speak and is what comes with nearly 40 years working for the public sector - but, hey, the pension is very good.
On the issue, I have thrown away/recycled my various copies of staff handbooks, with guidance from the five local authorities I have worked for, which all say the same about 'walking slowly' towards fights but I did find the following on the net:
: ‘A teachers' union is planning to write to all of its members warning them not to intervene in playground fights. The union said the "final straw" came when Glasgow City Council refused to let an injured teacher take time off to complete dental surgery. The Scottish Secondary Teachers' Association said staff would now be less inclined to break up disputes. Glasgow council said it judged claims on their individual merits and advised staff to not put themselves at risk.’ from here and ‘Teachers are hired to teach, not to be security personnel. The last thing you want to do is escalate, especially if you have no training about what to do in that situation… I can't fault them for not intervening. They weren't hired to be a bouncer; they were hired because they wanted to teach math. They have no obligation, IMHO, to intervene. If you want teachers to be bouncers, start hiring big muscled guys to do that, and train them appropriately….. The Duty of Care is not without its limits, however. A teacher is not expected.'
As it happens, I don;t agree with either because it seems to me that they are a dereliction of duty to care... etc.
Posted by leo (# 1458) on
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Was trying to add a: ' for the grammar police but somehow missed it. Them again, we have survived a nulaear war
Posted by leo (# 1458) on
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Originally posted by Beeswax Altar:
Where I graduated from high school, not only would the teachers break up the fight but the principal would call the police
How long was that? If you call the police, you are being disloyal to the institution and therefore you are a whistle blower and therefore you are likely to be dismissed.
[ 17. August 2011, 21:32: Message edited by: leo ]
Posted by Beeswax Altar (# 11644) on
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The policy was set by the school board and remains in place. The principal could have been fired for not calling the police. The administration recognized that not everybody would take advantage of their right to an education. So, they tried to make things as unpleasant as possible for troublemakers. Suspensions and detention were one thing. Court mandated community service was something else entirely.
Posted by Spike (# 36) on
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quote:
Originally posted by leo:
quote:
Originally posted by Spike:
That's crap. If bullying is going on and a teacher walks slowly towards them, of course the bully is going to stop and act all innocent. That's what bullies do. The one being bullied won't say anything either as he's shit scared of what will happen if he does. Of course, once the teacher walks away with the blinkered view that everything is OK, the bullying will start again.
If that was really your way of dealing with bullying, I'm glad you weren't a teacher at my school.
How many fights have you broken up? Over how many years? Have you read local authority and central government guidelines about fights and restraint? or dealt with parental appeals against exclusion? If your answer is 'yes', then I will dialogue with you. If not, why bother, since you do not know what you are talking about.
If you don't know the difference between kids fighting and bullying, I'm even more glad you weren't a teacher at my school.
ETA: And since when has "dialogue" been a verb? I'm getting more and more glad you never taught at my school.
[ 17. August 2011, 22:03: Message edited by: Spike ]
Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on
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quote:
Originally posted by leo:
Was trying to add a: ' for the grammar police but somehow missed it. Them again, we have survived a nulaear war
Please repeat that last sentence in English. If you've not drunk too much that is.
And while you're at it, please explain its possible relevance to the topic being discussed.
Posted by IngoB (# 8700) on
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Originally posted by Yorick:
quote:
Originally posted by IngoB:
I do not believe that a religion of niceness can be true.
...and yet you believe a woman can give birth to God with an intact hymen?
Firstly, I don't have to believe the hymen bit. Secondly, it is indeed much more likely that the Holy Spirit performed a miraculous C-section to signify various spiritual points in the flesh in one ultra-prominent case, than that God changed the nature of all human beings on the planet in order to turn a religion of niceness into a good idea. Thirdly, evidence for Jesus teleporting out of Mary's womb may be flimsy to non-existent. But evidence against a religion of niceness abounds everywhere outside of a Green Zone of middle class trivialities.
Posted by fletcher christian (# 13919) on
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do i hear the distant sound of someone trying to rescue their thread or is it the sound of a grieving Hamlet who has lost his beloved toy?
Posted by rugasaw (# 7315) on
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quote:
Originally posted by leo:
quote:
Originally posted by rugasaw:
quote:
Originally posted by leo:
I do not respond to playground bullying. As a teacher, I just walked slowly towards it so that it melted away before I had to deal with it by cracking heads.
I hope to God you did more than just let the playground bullying melt away. Teachers should do their best to make school a safe place and that means no tolerance for bullying.
If you see a fight starting, with all the kids running towards it, the best approach is to walk slowly towards the 'epicentre' and then most of the kids will melt away (otherwise, they might catch on that they are in the majority). The two who are left in the middle can then be sent to the head of house for dealing with.
Oh gosh, where to begin. First credentials, I am a veteran teacher of over 10 years. I do not know the policies and such in countries other than the USA. Next police, we have multiple constables on campus at the high school where I teach.
I find that a slow walk to a fight only allows the fight to continue longer. A purposeful stride or jog is more effective. A sprint is dangerous and should only be done if absolutely necessary. Also I trust my co-workers to have my back and disperse the crowd behind me.
I find that bullying does not draw as big of a crowd. Bullying can be difficult to prove so when you catch it you need to squash it.
Posted by Curiosity killed ... (# 11770) on
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Police on school sites are not unknown in the UK, I can think of several community policemen/women who have worked in schools, and all the schools I can think of locally work with the local police.
Posted by Taliesin (# 14017) on
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It was just a metaphor.
Leo doesn't respond to playground bullying (hell is a childish place)
He describes an image of himself as powerful in a playground setting (unconcerned teacher)
If one pretends not to notice while making one's presence felt, the antagonists will disappear/disperse, find another target.
It had nothing to do with actual schools or real life stratagies for dealing with actual students.
I'm not supporting or undermining anyone, I'm noticing how a metaphor can suddenly become a real issue to be backed up. Which of course it can't. And definitely not in hell.
Posted by Yorick (# 12169) on
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quote:
Originally posted by IngoB:
it is indeed much more likely that the Holy Spirit performed a miraculous C-section to signify various spiritual points in the flesh in one ultra-prominent case, than that God changed the nature of all human beings on the planet in order to turn a religion of niceness into a good idea.
Well, sure. It is indeed much more likely that a pig flew up into the sky and made it blue with his magic curly tail, than that God changed the nature of all human beings on the planet in order to turn a religion of niceness into a good idea.
Likelihood, it seems, is in the eye of the believer.
Posted by IngoB (# 8700) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Yorick:
It is indeed much more likely that a pig flew up into the sky and made it blue with his magic curly tail, than that God changed the nature of all human beings on the planet in order to turn a religion of niceness into a good idea.
Nope, bad analogy: That would involve a very large scale (physical) change without any spiritual point, which is not like the virgin birth at all.
Better analogy: It is much more likely that God turns Yorick miraculously into a little yapping dog to make a point about frivolously questioning His ways, than that he changes the nature of all human beings on the planet.
Lord, graciously hear our prayers.
Posted by Yorick (# 12169) on
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Heh. Don’t hold your breath.
Gr.
Um, pardon me. Don’t know where that came from.
Posted by Lamb Chopped (# 5528) on
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I'm gonna regret this.
WTF does a hymen destroyed in childbirth have to do with Mary's virginity?
I daresay it was. Who the hell cares?
Chances are good the poor lass wound up with tearing as well, which is a helluva lot more painful and troublesome. No episiotomies in those days. And with a God who is so keen to experience all the nasty bits of life, I can't see him skipping labor and vaginal delivery in favor of some funky miracle.
The presence or absence of a piece of skin does not make one a virgin (or not). Sexual experience is what counts.
Posted by Evensong (# 14696) on
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Yet the virgin birth negates Jesus' messianic heritage through Joseph and David.
I still can't figure that out.
Posted by Taliesin (# 14017) on
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I always took it as a message of divine support for all us step-parents. It's relationship that counts...
Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on
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Jesus Christ on a bicycle! Even leo's more fun than Yorkie's non-virginal birth. Take it elsewhere!
PS Yorkie: You lost this thread by inattention. It's all about leo now.
Bugger off!
Posted by Ricardus (# 8757) on
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Originally posted by Lamb Chopped:
WTF does a hymen destroyed in childbirth have to do with Mary's virginity?
I've a feeling a number Catholic theologians have affirmed that Mary's hymen really did remain physically intact, and Yorick assumes IngoB is one of them ...
Posted by Zach82 (# 3208) on
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I think any belief in a just universe must be dispelled by the fact that a hell call for Mousethief has somehow turned into a debate about some dame's bajingo.
Zach
Posted by IngoB (# 8700) on
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As mentioned, I'm not sure that I have to believe that Mary's hymen remained intact in giving birth to Jesus. That said, God has a habit of embodying (spiritual) truths. So a priori I would not exclude that Mary's perpetual virginity was indeed physically signified by a perpetually intact hymen. In particular so, because I bet in 1stC Palestine an intact hymen was in fact the expected bodily proof of female virginity, just as it still is in many places today (parents checking the sheets for signs of blood after the wedding night, and all that). It is likely anachronistic to project our attitudes back to that time and place, and I see no indication that God was primarily working according to 21stC Western sensibilities back then.
As far as scripture goes, an intact hymen during birth is seen as fulfilling the vision of the temple in Ezekiel 44:1-2 (the "gate" to the "sanctuary" of Mary remains shut). Furthermore, it is supposed to foreshadow the resurrected Lord passing miraculously through the sealed and guarded stone of the sepulchre, as per Matthew 27:59-66. There are also various arguments of fittingness, which however assume that an intact hymen is the proper bodily sign of virginity (which was assumed without question till fairly recenly): Jesus is the Word made flesh, but bringing forth a word does not corrupt the mind, so neither should His birth. Jesus came to take away our corruption, so he shouldn't corrupt Mary in doing so. God told us to honour our parents, but corrupting Mary's virginity diminishes her honour. That sort of thing...
Posted by Sine Nomine (# 66) on
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Is it any wonder regular people think church-goers are…to put it mildly…weird?
Posted by Yorick (# 12169) on
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I'm so sorry about this. I'm afraid much of the confusion here stems from my very poor syntax:
quote:
Originally posted by Yorick:
...and yet you believe a woman can give birth to God with an intact hymen?
What I meant to say was, '...and yet you believe a woman with an intact hymen can give birth to God?'
I guess that's how wars start.
Posted by Belisarius (# 32) on
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You were warned.
Thread closed; leo gets a reprieve.
Belisarius
Former Admin
[Lack of official tag on Hellhost post assumed to be an oversight; confirming with PeteC.]
[ 18. August 2011, 14:43: Message edited by: Belisarius ]
Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on
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Let it be so,
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