Ship of Fools: Hell: Snarky mousethief- -maybe , but the world is too chickenshit to tell him so.

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Posted by South Coast Kevin (# 16130) on :

Tell you what, why don't you engage with my point (or ignore it, as you wish) rather than responding with a smart-arse comment that doesn't really address what I said?

[ 10. January 2015, 20:42: Message edited by: Kelly Alves ]

Posted by comet (# 10353) on :

But then we'd never hear from him again.

Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on :

Damn your eyes, comet. I was just about to write, "Boy, the post count would go down..."

Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :

But Mousethief does snark so well - and at least it gave me a giggle on a grey day.

Posted by comet (# 10353) on :

'struth. I see him as the Ship's Statler and Waldorf. Love those guys. If they appeared in MY theater, they'd become props for Julius Ceasar.

Eta: or maybe Titus Andronicus.

[ 19. May 2013, 04:40: Message edited by: comet ]

Posted by Sioni Sais (# 5713) on :

I've sometimes thought that Hamlet would be improved by replacing Rosencrantz and Guildenstern with Waldorf & Statler.

MT, have you an Equity card?

Posted by George Spigot (# 253) on :

HAMLET
O God, I could be bounded in a nut shell and count
myself a king of infinite space, were it not that I have bad dreams.

GUILDENSTERN
You think you have problems! This plays gonna give me nightmares for weeks.

ROSENCRANTZ
I told you not to eat nuts before bedtime.

GUILDENSTERN It's the nutty Princes who are the problem.

ROSENCRANTZ Why what's the matter?

GUILDENSTERN I blame the mother. She's hell to live with.

ROSENCRANTZ I blame the father. He lives in hell.

GUILDENSTERN & ROSENCRANTZ Hur hur hur hur hur hur

Posted by Pyx_e (# 57) on :

proof

Posted by Eutychus (# 3081) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Pyx_e:
proof

Why is the Greek for Snarky "fantastic"?

Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on :

It could be that is because snark lives in a fantasy world.

OR

Why not?

Posted by Pyx_e (# 57) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Eutychus:

quote:
Originally posted by Pyx_e:
proof
Why is the Greek for Snarky "fantastic"?

cos in my mind I think of Mousethief as "Dr Fantastic."

Posted by mousethief (# 953) on :

But Pete, the Snark was a Boojum.

Pyx-e:

[Hot and Hormonal]

Posted by Net Spinster (# 16058) on :

quote:
Originally posted by mousethief:
But Pete, the Snark was a Boojum.

Does that mean someone is going to softly and suddenly vanish?

Admittedly my grandfather's lab, Boojum, was remarkably adept at vanishing dinner (his or my grandparents).

Posted by Evensong (# 14696) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Pyx_e:
proof

How the hell did you do that? Very cool.

Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on :

Girl, ain't you learned how to code in Greek yet? Go to Keryg and school yourself! (the stickied link at the top of the board.)

Posted by Evensong (# 14696) on :

I can do Greek letters. Just don't know how to chuck em on a page in a book and take a picture of em! [Smile]

Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on :

αmen.

Posted by Patdys (# 9397) on :

Evensong

Posted by Evensong (# 14696) on :

Pah. It's magic!

(Thanks. I found the image. [Big Grin]

)

Posted by Mark Betts (# 17074) on :

Does "snarky" mean "up his own arse"?

Posted by Caz... (# 3026) on :

I have come here about once every 5 years lately.

There is always a thread calling MT to hell when I come [Smile]

It gives me a strange comfort.

Posted by Mark Betts (# 17074) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Mark Betts:
Does "snarky" mean "up his own arse"?

Actually, no it doesn't. OK, I need to find another good word which means "up his own arse"...

Posted by Karl: Liberal Backslider (# 76) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Mark Betts:

quote:
Originally posted by Mark Betts:
Does "snarky" mean "up his own arse"?
Actually, no it doesn't. OK, I need to find another good word which means "up his own arse"...

must...not...make...obvious...suggestion....

[ 20. May 2013, 13:58: Message edited by: Karl: Liberal Backslider ]

Posted by mousethief (# 953) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Karl: Liberal Backslider:

quote:
Originally posted by Mark Betts:

quote:
Originally posted by Mark Betts:
Does "snarky" mean "up his own arse"?
Actually, no it doesn't. OK, I need to find another good word which means "up his own arse"...
must...not...make...obvious...suggestion....

Markbettsian?

Posted by Ariel (# 58) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Caz...:
I have come here about once every 5 years lately.

There is always a thread calling MT to hell when I come

It gives me a strange comfort.

Hellooooo! and welcome back. [Smile]

Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on :

quote:
Originally posted by mousethief:

quote:
Originally posted by Karl: Liberal Backslider:

quote:
Originally posted by Mark Betts:

quote:
Originally posted by Mark Betts:
Does "snarky" mean "up his own arse"?
Actually, no it doesn't. OK, I need to find another good word which means "up his own arse"...
must...not...make...obvious...suggestion....
Markbettsian?

MT, you gotta respect Betts for taking you on. I actually collected myself a bowl of popcorn in honor of this one.

And just because everybody's being too nice, I have to share that I once observed that when you and MartinPCNot go at it, it's like watching a couple Furbies chatting with each other.
[Snigger]

Posted by mousethief (# 953) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
MT, you gotta respect Betts for taking you on.

I do?

quote:
And just because everybody's being too nice, I have to share that I once observed that when you and MartinPCNot go at it, it's like watching a couple Furbies chatting with each other.

Hmpf. I never.

Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on :

Real love is not blind, my friend. [Big Grin]

Bett's giddy kamikaze attempt just reminded me of it, but you and Martin snarking at each other in Purg a while back, while struggling to stay within the 10 C's, was some funny shit. [Snigger]

Posted by Lyda*Rose (# 4544) on :

Kelly Alves:

quote:
Bett's giddy kamikaze attempt...

The trouble with Mark Betts as a kamikazi pilot is that he keeps rising from the flames like a cross between a phoenix and a budgie.

Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on :

[Killing me]

Posted by mousethief (# 953) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
Bett's giddy kamikaze attempt just reminded me of it, but you and Martin snarking at each other in Purg a while back, while struggling to stay within the 10 C's, was some funny shit.

You have to admit, we're both pretty good at it.

Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on :

It was Un.Canny. It was like that Star Trek episode...

Posted by mousethief (# 953) on :

I'm not sure I've ever been compared to a Star Trek episode before.

Posted by Sioni Sais (# 5713) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
It was Un.Canny. It was like that Star Trek episode...

But which was the guy in the red shirt ...

Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on :

quote:
Originally posted by mousethief:
I'm not sure I've ever been compared to a Star Trek episode before.

You know, earlier this week I had decided that God's sole purpose in putting me on this earth was to give other people an ego boost. This just cinches it. Here I am trying to pull your tail, and you figure out a way to frame me putting you in a death dance with MartinPCNot as a compliment.

Can't you exhibit just the tiniest bit of narcissistic wounding, just to make me feel like I can do something else with my life? Call me a bitch or something. Complain about me in the Styx. Anything.

Posted by mousethief (# 953) on :

[Overused]

Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on :

Bastard.

Posted by mousethief (# 953) on :

[Waterworks]

Posted by Boogie (# 13538) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Ariel:
Originally posted by Caz...:

There is always a thread calling MT to hell when I come...

Fair enough, whatever turns you on, I'm just surprised that you admit to it. [Big Grin]

[ 21. May 2013, 06:47: Message edited by: Boogie ]

Posted by Pooks (# 11425) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Kelly Alves:

quote:
Originally posted by mousethief:
I'm not sure I've ever been compared to a Star Trek episode before.
You know, earlier this week I had decided that God's sole purpose in putting me on this earth was to give other people an ego boost. This just cinches it. Here I am trying to pull your tail, and you figure out a way to frame me putting you in a death dance with MartinPCNot as a compliment.

Can't you exhibit just the tiniest bit of narcissistic wounding, just to make me feel like I can do something else with my life? Call me a bitch or something. Complain about me in the Styx. Anything.

Kelly, you're a star! [Killing me]

(*Wipes coffee off keyboard.)

Posted by orfeo (# 13878) on :

quote:
Originally posted by mousethief:
I'm not sure I've ever been compared to a Star Trek episode before.

Perhaps not, but we WERE at one point going to go into business together creating "Muslims are the Borg" merchandise.

Posted by Barnabas62 (# 9110) on :

quote:
Originally posted by mousethief:

quote:

There's a kind of comedic genius at work in those posts.

As well as bastardy.

Loving this thread. A bit of Hellish Heaven on a damp grey May morning in the UK.

Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on :

I wish I could repost the mutual admiration fest we had going on Facebook while we were carping at each other. Or while I was carping and he was cockteasing me. [Big Grin]

Posted by mousethief (# 953) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Pooks:
Kelly, you're a star!

(*Wipes coffee off keyboard.)

See? Now that's essentially what I said (although as is not uncommon I was more succinct), and she calls me a bastard!

I'll have you know my parents were married when I was born! Just.

Posted by Evensong (# 14696) on :

I still think it was a grave disservice not to call her a bitch.

Posted by comet (# 10353) on :

To each other?

Posted by Evensong (# 14696) on :

It would be a grave disservice to bitches to call mousetheif a bitch.

[ 22. May 2013, 13:40: Message edited by: Evensong ]

Posted by Pooks (# 11425) on :

quote:
Originally posted by mousethief:

quote:
Originally posted by Pooks:
Kelly, you're a star!

(*Wipes coffee off keyboard.)
See? Now that's essentially what I said (although as is not uncommon I was more succinct), and she calls me a bastard!

My dear Mousie, that's because Kelly wants to play, but you just rolled over. Go on! Be snarky. After all, that's what this thread is for. Isn't it?

(*Mwahahahahaha! I iz so happily evil.)

Posted by mousethief (# 953) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Pooks:
My dear Mousie, that's because Kelly wants to play, but you just rolled over.

Fuckin' A. My passive-aggressive response was just the thing; otherwise she wouldn't have called me a bastard. I did play, it was funny, and Kelly responded in a playful manner.

quote:
Originally posted by Evensong:
It would be a grave disservice to bitches to call mousetheif a bitch.

Evensong, I expect you to stick up for me. That's your M.O. in Hell. Are you changing? Can we expect less of that kind of bullshit in the future, do you think?

[ 22. May 2013, 14:37: Message edited by: mousethief ]

Posted by Pooks (# 11425) on :

quote:
Originally posted by mousethief:
Fuckin' A. My passive-aggressive response was just the thing; otherwise she wouldn't have called me a bastard. I did play, it was funny, and Kelly responded in a playful manner.

Hmm, OK. Well played. I'll make sure I put my glasses on next time because I only saw passive, no aggressive. Having said that, I'll admit my difficulty is more likely caused by the event-horizon situated between my audio receptors and this is what happens when one speaks from a black hole.

Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on :

quote:
Originally posted by mousethief:

quote:
Originally posted by Pooks:
My dear Mousie, that's because Kelly wants to play, but you just rolled over.
Fuckin' A. My passive-aggressive response was just the thing; otherwise she wouldn't have called me a bastard. I did play, it was funny, and Kelly responded in a playful manner.

Exactly! The whole exchange was absolutely note perfect!
" [Overused]

" in this case was a middle finger aimed at me, and my response was to laugh for like, three minutes straight.

Thanks for calling me a star, though, Pooks. Modesty forbids me repeating what Mousethief said, but suffice it to say I am still on Cloud 9. Never has Pulling The Tail been so rewarding. [Tear]

I highly recommend it. [Devil]

[ 22. May 2013, 18:47: Message edited by: Kelly Alves ]

Posted by Sioni Sais (# 5713) on :

quote:
Originally posted by mousethief:

quote:
Originally posted by Evensong:
It would be a grave disservice to bitches to call mousetheif a bitch.
Evensong, I expect you to stick up for me. That's your M.O. in Hell. Are you changing? Can we expect less of that kind of bullshit in the future, do you think?

MT, Evensong's a defender of lost causes, underdogs and the perpetually bewildered. You're not any of these things. Plenty of people defend you, Kelly for a start.

Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Sioni Sais:
Plenty of people defend you, Kelly for a start.

This is getting surreal.

TBH, Mousethief, I honestly started with the Furby thing because I couldn't stand seeing a Hell call hang there without getting one shot in. I figured there was a fifty-fifty chance of you finding it funny, or it hitting you the wrong way and me enjoying the sight of a mouse-tantrum. Win-win, for me. Popcorn at the ready.

How this all wound up with me being declared your defender I don't know. It leaves me despondent. I really couldn't fight my way out of a paper bag, could I?

[ 22. May 2013, 19:04: Message edited by: Kelly Alves ]

Posted by lilBuddha (# 14333) on :

Kelly defends all sorts of disreputable characters. Bad habit that.

ETA: Ah Kells, do not be so hard on yourself. I'd give you at least a 25% chance of finding the exit.

[ 22. May 2013, 19:05: Message edited by: lilBuddha ]

Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on :

quote:
Originally posted by lilBuddha:

ETA: Ah Kells, do not be so hard on yourself. I'd give you at least a 25% chance of finding the exit.

Now, see that? That's a bitch.

Posted by Pooks (# 11425) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
Exactly! The whole exchange was absolutely note perfect!
" " in this case was a middle finger aimed at me, and my response was to laugh for like, three minutes straight.

Thanks for calling me a star, though, Pooks. Modesty forbids me repeating what Mousethief said, but suffice it to say I am still on Cloud 9. Never has Pulling The Tail been so rewarding.

I highly recommend it.

Aye Kelly. It was fun for me to watch you two at it too. Alas, not having your gift at tail pulling, I tried to poke Mousie just a little, but he just complied. Oh well, you win some and I lose some, so it's all good.

Let modesty be damned. People don't always get the better of Mousie, so you go girl.

Cheers!

[ 22. May 2013, 19:21: Message edited by: Pooks ]

Posted by mousethief (# 953) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
TBH, Mousethief, I honestly started with the Furby thing because I couldn't stand seeing a Hell call hang there without getting one shot in.

Wait, YOU WERE DOGPILING ME?

Evensong! Help! I'm being oppressed!

quote:
How this all wound up with me being declared your defender I don't know. It leaves me despondent. I really couldn't fight my way out of a paper bag, could I?

Boutique shop paper bag, or grocery store brown kraft?

Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on :

Either one, soaking wet.

Posted by lilBuddha (# 14333) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Kelly Alves:

quote:
Originally posted by lilBuddha:

ETA: Ah Kells, do not be so hard on yourself. I'd give you at least a 25% chance of finding the exit.
Now, see that? That's a bitch.

See? I try to buoy her by giving the highest possible compliment ( [Angel]

) and she calls me a bitch. [Waterworks]

Posted by mousethief (# 953) on :

25% is the highest compliment you have?

Posted by lilBuddha (# 14333) on :

Hey, I threw out up, down, the corners, etc.
Doesn't matter, she'd likely just lay to with the axe and go whichever direction she chose.

Posted by Barnabas62 (# 9110) on :

It gets even better! Even the sun is shining this morning, here in North Norfolk UK.

Time for Johnny Nash .. even in Hell.

Posted by mousethief (# 953) on :

I think the axe may just be for show. I've given her more reason to use it on me than most people here, and yet my chin and chest are still within shouting distance.

Posted by The5thMary (# 12953) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
I wish I could repost the mutual admiration fest we had going on Facebook while we were carping at each other. Or while I was carping and he was cockteasing me.

Y'all are on Facebook?! Oh, Lord...
[Ultra confused]

----------------------------------------------------

Edited to tidy cr@p UBB. Preview post is for you too.

Sioni Sais
Hellhost

[ 23. May 2013, 11:44: Message edited by: Sioni Sais ]

Posted by lilBuddha (# 14333) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Barnabas62:
It gets even better! Even the sun is shining this morning, here in North Norfolk UK.

Time for Johnny Nash .. even in Hell.

The song belongs in Heaven, but that outfit is at home right Here.

Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on :

So, Pete, I noticed you changed the thread title and decided we needed to up the ante.

Brace yourself, Mousethief, every fresh-faced dude wanting to prove himself* will be moseying into this corral twirling his* Winchster and looking for a fight.

*herself, her

Posted by South Coast Kevin (# 16130) on :

Lol at both the thread title changes! Nice one.

I shan't be joining in the thread any further though. I made my point with the very first post. /Pious flounce

Posted by mousethief (# 953) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
Brace yourself, Mousethief, every fresh-faced dude wanting to prove himself* will be moseying into this corral twirling his* Winchster and looking for a fight.

*herself, her

Mouseying? Surely that's my prerogative?

Posted by Pyx_e (# 57) on :

Never pick a fight with a guy who buys his ink* buy the barrel.

Fly Safe, Pyx_e.

*post rate

Posted by Pooks (# 11425) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
Brace yourself, Mousethief, every fresh-faced dude wanting to prove himself* will be moseying into this corral twirling his* Winchster and looking for a fight.

*herself, her

Nah! I reckon it's Mousie's cooler they'll be looking for (*Hic!)

... ...Mind you, they just might be willing to shoot for it. (*Dives under the table!) Damn chair!

Posted by mousethief (# 953) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Pooks:
I reckon it's Mousie's cooler they'll be looking for (*Hic!)

... ...Mind you, they just might be willing to shoot for it. (*Dives under the table!) Damn chair!

Does this count as thread convergence with that cockfight between EE and Marvin, I mean goperryrevs, I mean Anselmina -- well, the cockfight between EE and the rest of the civilized world?

Posted by deano (# 12063) on :

Oh come on!

Mousethief gets called to Hell and it turns into two pages of twee satire!!

He’s a twat for fuck’s sake and should be abused as such! His method of arguing marks him out as a twat, his humour marks him out as a twat and his latent socialism marks him out as a twat.

I get off a plane, drive three hours home, kiss the missus and kids and check this site to find that Mousethief is called to Heck!

I know you can do better than that. I’ve been on the receiving end of it to know full well how you can vomit bile and blood over someone and his Hell call is the equivalent of being on Have I Got News For You or a roast by the Harvard branch of Queer Eye for the Straight Guy!

Get on with it before we all get bored and do something we will regret later such as try crack or buy a kebab.

Posted by comet (# 10353) on :

Bored already. You do it. I have a crack kebab to go buy.

Posted by deano (# 12063) on :

quote:
Originally posted by comet:
Bored already. You do it. I have a crack kebab to go buy.

But it wouldn't be a surprise if I did it. Now if Ken came out of the jungle via a monkey bite to Mousethiefs gonads then it might be worth hanging around for.

Alternatively if Josephine pointed out that he's crap in bed and needed five or six viagra to get it up then maybe the thread would be worth keeping alive (Boy that thought is going to linger!).

Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on :

I fuckin' tried!

The thing is, when MT is being cool, you want to just live in the moment, because it can pass with lightning swiftness. And then all of a sudden you find yourself having a conversation like this:

Kelly:I like navel oranges.

MT: Oranges don't have navels.

Kelly. It's just what they call them.

MT: Who's they?

Kelly: I dunno, some fruit mogul I guess. It's just part of the language now.

MT: So you are willing to continue a scientific inaccuracy just because it's the common practice? No wonder Creationist hold sway in our country.

Kelly: How the hell did Creationists come into it?

MT: If you can't parse that, I don't see why I should help you.

Kelly: Lighten the hell up, Mousethief, it's oranges. Why are you suddenly the Noam Chomsky of oranges?

MT: Why are you being so bitchy?

Kelly:Why are you being so douchey?

MT: How the hell dare you call me a douche?

Kelly: You started it! You called me a bitch!

MT: Tu quoque!

(Takes bow)

[ 24. May 2013, 23:04: Message edited by: Kelly Alves ]

Posted by Tortuf (# 3784) on :

deano,

The differences between you and mousey are too numerous to list.

One big difference is that he uses wit.

I'd tell you to think about it, but I already know you won't.

And really, the crudity of you last post . . . Your mother would be ashamed even if you aren't.

Posted by deano (# 12063) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
I fuckin' tried!

The thing is, when MT is being cool, you want to just live in the moment, because it can pass with lightning swiftness. And then all of a sudden you find yourself having a conversation like this:

Kelly:I like navel oranges.

MT: Oranges don't have navels.

Kelly. It's just what they call them.

MT: Who's they?

Kelly: I dunno, some fruit mogul I guess. It's just part of the language now.

MT: So you are willing to continue a scientific inaccuracy just because it's the common practice? No wonder Creationist hold sway in our country.

Kelly: How the hell did Creationists come into it?

MT: If you can't parse that, I don't see why I should help you.

Kelly: Lighten the hell up, Mousethief, it's oranges. Why are you suddenly the Noam Chomsky of oranges?

MT: Why are you being so bitchy?

Kelly:Why are you being so douchey?

MT: How the hell dare you call me a douche?

Kelly: You started it! You called me a bitch!

MT: Tu quoque!

(Takes bow)

Hmm... Are you saying you are unable to cope with his... personality? I thought you were made of sterner stuff than Sandra Dee.

Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on :

No, I am saying I'd rather conserve precious energy that I might waste on MT when he is tarbaby mode--which is getting rarer and rarer, to his credit-- that might be using on more consistent, career douchebags such as yourself.

I fully expect you to get reamed up down and sideways for your ugly crack about Josephine and look forward to it. If you really wanted us to focus on MT, making that remark was a very, very bad idea. You make him look like fucking Gandhi right now.

Posted by deano (# 12063) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
No, I am saying I'd rather conserve precious energy that I might waste on MT when he is tarbaby mode--which is getting rarer and rarer, to his credit-- that might be using on more consistent, career douchebags such as yourself.

I fully expect you to get reamed up down and sideways for your ugly crack about Josephine and look forward to it. If you really wanted us to focus on MT, making that remark was a very, very bad idea. You make him look like fucking Gandhi right now.

Oh, sorry. I thought it was taking the piss out of MT rather than Josephine, you know, with the implication that MT has erectile dysfunction*, but whatever.

*I've been in the US a lot over the last two months and I may have seen too much advertising on TV.

Posted by irish_lord99 (# 16250) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
So, Pete, I noticed you changed the thread title and decided we needed to up the ante.

Brace yourself, Mousethief, every fresh-faced dude wanting to prove himself* will be moseying into this corral twirling his* Winchster and looking for a fight.

*herself, her

Surely you mean Colt? I can't imagine twirling a Winchester!

Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on :

Annie Oakley could do it.!

( [Hot and Hormonal]

)

Posted by mousethief (# 953) on :

Attention shoppers, will the person who pissed in deano's Cheerios please come to checkstand one?

Posted by irish_lord99 (# 16250) on :

Is his missus registered on SoF?

Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on :

(From another thread)

quote:
Originally posted by mousethief:
Oh BTW your dialogue was very funny.

(Assuming you meant the above.) It occurred to me much later that "Tu Quoque" is your version of "THIRD BASE!"

And I laughed, and laughed...

Posted by mousethief (# 953) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
(From another thread)

quote:
Originally posted by mousethief:
Oh BTW your dialogue was very funny.
(Assuming you meant the above.) It occurred to me much later that "Tu Quoque" is your version of "THIRD BASE!"

And I laughed, and laughed...

Posted by Pooks (# 11425) on :

quote:
Originally posted by mousethief:

quote:
Originally posted by Pooks:
I reckon it's Mousie's cooler they'll be looking for (*Hic!)

... ...Mind you, they just might be willing to shoot for it. (*Dives under the table!) Damn chair!
Does this count as thread convergence with that cockfight between EE and Marvin, I mean goperryrevs, I mean Anselmina -- well, the cockfight between EE and the rest of the civilized world?

No. Like deano, I am on a whole different level.

Chair won.

Posted by mousethief (# 953) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Pooks:
Like deano, I am on a whole different level.

I see I shall have to read Dante again.

Posted by Pooks (# 11425) on :

quote:
Originally posted by mousethief:
I see I shall have to read Dante again.

Ah, a pilgrimage, I see. Given that you're already a regular in hell and purgatory, paradise is that way -------->

Safe journey.

Posted by comet (# 10353) on :

Do we have anything to discuss, here? Or is it really the pathetic circle-jerk it appears to be?

Posted by Sarkycow (# 1012) on :

I think we're discussing whether Kelly can actually be mean to people or whether she's unrelentingly nice.

But I could be wrong [Biased]

Posted by Pooks (# 11425) on :

My apologies, Comet. I thought the whole thread was pretty pointless. I will stop now.

Posted by comet (# 10353) on :

The whole thread IS pointless. Rest assured, that comment was not directed at you.

Posted by Pooks (# 11425) on :

Thank you. [Big Grin]

Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Sarkycow:
I think we're discussing whether Kelly can actually be mean to people or whether she's unrelentingly nice.

But I could be wrong

By my count, if you add in the Emily thread, I have snarked all over four different people in the past two days.If they refuse to be insulted, it's hardly my fault.

And an odd paradox I've noticed is that a lot of same people who insist on referring to me as "nice" -- not you Sark, cover your ears, I know you love me dirty, but a lot of people, on or off Ship-- are the same people who freak right the fuck out when I tell them something they don't like, or unexpectedly disagree with them, or express a nasty thought, or lose my temper, or just generally do something other than tell them how great they are.

Witness Sine on the other thread-- I told him once, like a year ago, that he'd thrown the word "Loser" into a couple posts in ways that struck me as odd --just that, just an observation-- and he remembers that as being "jumped on".

Holy Fuck. "Jumped on?" And he used to be a Hell Host.

I'm Sandra Dee, deano? Fuck that. Only if you deliberately ignore a lot.

[ 26. May 2013, 03:21: Message edited by: Kelly Alves ]

Posted by mousethief (# 953) on :

quote:
Originally posted by comet:
The whole thread IS pointless.

Kinda thought that from the OP on.

Posted by Lyda*Rose (# 4544) on :

Kelly Alves:

quote:
Witness Sine on the other thread-- I told him once, like a year ago, that he'd thrown the word "Loser" into a couple posts in ways that struck me as odd --just that, just an observation-- and he remembers that as being "jumped on".

Holy Fuck. "Jumped on?" And he used to be a Hell Host.

See, when you make an observation, there's a lot of weight assigned to it. Thus a quiet tap on the shoulder balloons into a "horse collar tackle". A lot of people are out of your league, Kelly, but Sine should know better. Maybe being away so much has made him soft. [Disappointed]

Posted by Lyda*Rose (# 4544) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
I fuckin' tried!

The thing is, when MT is being cool, you want to just live in the moment, because it can pass with lightning swiftness. And then all of a sudden you find yourself having a conversation like this:

Kelly:I like navel oranges.

MT: Oranges don't have navels.

Kelly. It's just what they call them.

MT: Who's they?

Kelly: I dunno, some fruit mogul I guess. It's just part of the language now.

MT: So you are willing to continue a scientific inaccuracy just because it's the common practice? No wonder Creationist hold sway in our country.

Kelly: How the hell did Creationists come into it?

MT: If you can't parse that, I don't see why I should help you.

Kelly: Lighten the hell up, Mousethief, it's oranges. Why are you suddenly the Noam Chomsky of oranges?

MT: Why are you being so bitchy?

Kelly:Why are you being so douchey?

MT: How the hell dare you call me a douche?

Kelly: You started it! You called me a bitch!

MT: Tu quoque!

(Takes bow)

Plus+

quote:
Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
(From another thread)

quote:
Originally posted by mousethief:
[qb] Oh BTW your dialogue was very funny.
(Assuming you meant the above.) It occurred to me much later that "Tu Quoque" is your version of "THIRD BASE!"

And I laughed, and laughed...

It has to be done: Quotes file! [Overused]

Posted by Barnabas62 (# 9110) on :

comet, it may be pointless, but it has sure as Hell been very very funny! I reckon it deserves Limboing when you get round to clear-out.

Much appreciated. I include deano's responses to someone pissing in his Cheerios as well.

But I suppose you're going to have to kill it, comet? Ah well. All good things must come to an end, I suppose.

Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on :

I actually was trying to be authentic with MT, rather than blowing smoke up his ass, like what was happening with the first page. The dialogue I made up actually had roots in exchanges I have had with him (at least how they seemed to me.) Some of them weren't funny at all. Some of them had me logging off in tears.

I had no idea how he would react. I actually thought he might be pissed. But I guess ten years of hanging in there with each other proved itself-- from the way he reacted, he sensed the genuine love behind the sarcasm.

So, if all Hell is about is being as piss-mean as you can be, or establishing yourself as King of Badass Hill, then I guess I suck. But if part of it about being real, even if the person you are addressing is a notorious, take-no-prisoners badass who just might likely spend the next week or so paying you back for it--well, I think I did quite well.

Posted by RooK (# 1852) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
Hell is about is being as piss-mean as you can be, or establishing yourself as King of Badass Hill

You say that like it's not a worthy aspiration. [sniffle]

Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on :

It's a rather limited ambition. What do you do when you get there?

(Well, spin in a circle and piss on people, I suppose.)

[ 26. May 2013, 07:22: Message edited by: Kelly Alves ]

Posted by Barnabas62 (# 9110) on :

quote:
Originally posted by RooK:

quote:
Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
Hell is about is being as piss-mean as you can be, or establishing yourself as King of Badass Hill
You say that like it's not a worthy aspiration. [sniffle]

You don't fool me. Experienced Shipmates still quake when you re-enter Hell. We know you have some purpose worthy of your aspirations to be a Terrible Judge.

Just a little too nice though, since leavened by Adminning. The evil persona may need a bit of work.

I remember the Big Bad RooK in Hell days. Used to stay out of your way for fear of being verbally eviscerated, hung out to dry, etc. Like just about anyone else with any sense ..

Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on :

Yeah, the pussy.

Posted by mousethief (# 953) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
I actually was trying to be authentic with MT, rather than blowing smoke up his ass, like what was happening with the first page. The dialogue I made up actually had roots in exchanges I have had with him (at least how they seemed to me.) Some of them weren't funny at all. Some of them had me logging off in tears.

Please accept my apologies for those assholicities. Your willingness to continue to engage with me subsequent to same speaks volumes about your strength of character. I have definitely learned from you.

Posted by Pooks (# 11425) on :

quote:
Originally posted by mousethief:

quote:
Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
I actually was trying to be authentic with MT, rather than blowing smoke up his ass, like what was happening with the first page. The dialogue I made up actually had roots in exchanges I have had with him (at least how they seemed to me.) Some of them weren't funny at all. Some of them had me logging off in tears.
Please accept my apologies for those assholicities. Your willingness to continue to engage with me subsequent to same speaks volumes about your strength of character. I have definitely learned from you.

Damn it, Mouse! I already said Kelly is a star. Now I would have to give you a [Overused]

as well. Honestly, what's the world coming to?

Posted by lilBuddha (# 14333) on :

And in Hell no less. [Disappointed]

Posted by mousethief (# 953) on :

Oh come on, you lily-livered cretins. People apologize in Hell all the time. Get the fuck over it.

Edited to add:

TU QUOQUE! TU QUOQUE!

[ 26. May 2013, 14:26: Message edited by: mousethief ]

Posted by lilBuddha (# 14333) on :

What matter to you, the colour of my liver?
(Wanders to mousethief's kitchen)
Careful the beans don't burn. Nice choice of wine, love the straw-covered bottles. What is the main course?

Posted by mousethief (# 953) on :

quote:
Originally posted by lilBuddha:
What is the main course?

Tonight it's baked pork chops with a rhubarb-cherry sauce. (pork, rhubarb and fresh cherries all from the farmers' market yesterday)

Posted by Sarkycow (# 1012) on :

quote:
Originally posted by mousethief:

quote:
Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
I actually was trying to be authentic with MT, rather than blowing smoke up his ass, like what was happening with the first page. The dialogue I made up actually had roots in exchanges I have had with him (at least how they seemed to me.) Some of them weren't funny at all. Some of them had me logging off in tears.
Please accept my apologies for those assholicities. Your willingness to continue to engage with me subsequent to same speaks volumes about your strength of character. I have definitely learned from you.

Oh MT, there's no need to be that mean to Kelly [Disappointed]

She's said that she was trying to insult you and she failed. And now you talk about her strength of character and caringness in continuing to engage with you? You're just underlining how much she failed.

I mean, we all know she failed, but telling her is a bit like shooting fish in a barrel. She needs encouragement in trying to be hellish, not thanking for her caring [Big Grin]

Posted by mousethief (# 953) on :

The levels of reversed meaning are starting to give me a headache. Damn you, Sarkycow.

Posted by Sine Nomine (# 66) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
Witness Sine on the other thread-- I told him once, like a year ago, that he'd thrown the word "Loser" into a couple posts in ways that struck me as odd --just that, just an observation-- and he remembers that as being "jumped on".

Actually "jumped on" was chosen to be ironical considering who I was talking about. However I do think this business of telling people how you really feel can be highly overrated and frequently leads to unfortunate boundary issues.

I say nod, smile, and keep moving.

Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on :

quote:
Originally posted by mousethief:
Oh come on, you lily-livered cretins. People apologize in Hell all the time. Get the fuck over it.

Edited to add:

TU QUOQUE! TU QUOQUE!

I so did not fail.

Posted by Barnabas62 (# 9110) on :

quote:
Originally posted by mousethief:
Damn you, Sarkycow.

Let's see if I've got this right. When Sarky was a HellHost, that would have been a compliment, but now she isn't, it's a curse. Unless she becomes a HellHost again ...

Yes, that must be it.

But, on the other hand ....

Hmm. Maybe Sine has a point.

(Nods, smiles, moves on.)

[Translations available on request]

[ 26. May 2013, 20:08: Message edited by: Barnabas62 ]

Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Sine Nomine:
Actually "jumped on" was chosen to be ironical considering who I was talking about.

Oh. In that case, fuck you. [Smile]

Posted by Sine Nomine (# 66) on :

Gurl, make up your mind.

Posted by mousethief (# 953) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Kelly Alves:

quote:
Originally posted by mousethief:
Oh come on, you lily-livered cretins. People apologize in Hell all the time. Get the fuck over it.

Edited to add:

TU QUOQUE! TU QUOQUE!

I so did not fail.

You're welcome.

Posted by LeRoc (# 3216) on :

I'm not sure if Mousethief is snarky, but I do find his latest trend of seeing logical fallacies everywhere (even where there aren't any) tiresome. Maybe he should start by looking up what Bulverism really means.

Just a hint:

- You claim that A is true.
- Because of B, you personally desire that A should be true.
- Therefore, I don't accept your claim that A is true.

is not Bulverism.

Posted by quetzalcoatl (# 16740) on :

I'm puzzled why mousethief keeps making anal-obsessive criticisms of grammar or vocabulary on some of my posts. I did wonder if mt is not a native English speaker, as idiomatic phrases seem to be a particular difficulty - for example, I recently uttered a rhetorical question, to which mousethief replied 'of course not', which is course, the point of a rhetorical question.

Anyway, before I get onto 'fuck off' and variants thereof, what gives? Please stop doing it.

Posted by mousethief (# 953) on :

quote:
Originally posted by quetzalcoatl:
for example, I recently uttered a rhetorical question, to which mousethief replied 'of course not', which is course, the point of a rhetorical question.

That's called "agreeing with you." I know you're not used to people agreeing with you, so it may come as a shock. But when someone asks a rhetorical question and somebody else answers in a way that confirms and does not contradict the question, what they are doing is agreeing with the person who asked the question. Happy to have provided this informative service.

Posted by quetzalcoatl (# 16740) on :

But why do you keep correcting other posts? Is it that you are not a native speaker of English, or you're anal-obsessive, or just for shits and giggles?

Posted by mousethief (# 953) on :

Who can say? At any rate, I apologize for agreeing with you. I didn't make that clear in my earlier post. It won't happen again.

Posted by orfeo (# 13878) on :

quote:
Originally posted by mousethief:

quote:
Originally posted by quetzalcoatl:
for example, I recently uttered a rhetorical question, to which mousethief replied 'of course not', which is course, the point of a rhetorical question.
That's called "agreeing with you." I know you're not used to people agreeing with you, so it may come as a shock. But when someone asks a rhetorical question and somebody else answers in a way that confirms and does not contradict the question, what they are doing is agreeing with the person who asked the question. Happy to have provided this informative service.

See, this is the kind of posting that Facebook avoids by providing a Like button.

Posted by quetzalcoatl (# 16740) on :

Well, keep doing it buddy, and I will roast your fucking nuts, and turn them into some shitty Mediterranean spread, metaphorically speaking of course.

Posted by mousethief (# 953) on :

quote:
Originally posted by orfeo:
See, this is the kind of posting that Facebook avoids by providing a Like button.

When shippies have asked for a "Like" button in the past, they were told they could just quote the relevant part of the other person's post and make "I agree with you" kinds of noises. Which usually works. "Usually" being the key term here.

Posted by quetzalcoatl (# 16740) on :

I'm watching you, fuck-face.

Posted by mousethief (# 953) on :

quote:
Originally posted by quetzalcoatl:
Well, keep doing it buddy, and I will roast your fucking nuts, and turn them into some shitty Mediterranean spread, metaphorically speaking of course.

Don't you have some mud cakes to bake, or swing sets to climb, or something?

Posted by orfeo (# 13878) on :

quote:
Originally posted by mousethief:

quote:
Originally posted by orfeo:
See, this is the kind of posting that Facebook avoids by providing a Like button.
When shippies have asked for a "Like" button in the past, they were told they could just quote the relevant part of the other person's post and make "I agree with you" kinds of noises. Which usually works. "Usually" being the key term here.

All very true. I am forced, however reluctantly, to agree with you.

Posted by quetzalcoatl (# 16740) on :

quote:
Originally posted by mousethief:

quote:
Originally posted by quetzalcoatl:
Well, keep doing it buddy, and I will roast your fucking nuts, and turn them into some shitty Mediterranean spread, metaphorically speaking of course.
Don't you have some mud cakes to bake, or swing sets to climb, or something?

Fucking hell, mate, you're an amateur at this.

Posted by mousethief (# 953) on :

quote:
Originally posted by orfeo:
All very true. I am forced, however reluctantly, to agree with you.

Be careful or quetzalcoatl will grind your stones to make his bread.

Posted by Wesley J (# 6075) on :

Time to get your quetzalcoat?

Posted by quetzalcoatl (# 16740) on :

quote:
Originally posted by mousethief:

quote:
Originally posted by orfeo:
All very true. I am forced, however reluctantly, to agree with you.
Be careful or quetzalcoatl will grind your stones to make his bread.

Not bread, cunt-brain. Grinding your nuts would produce a very fine powder, which would probably make some awful instant coffee.

Posted by mousethief (# 953) on :

quote:
Originally posted by quetzalcoatl:
Fucking hell, mate, you're an amateur at this.

Oh God, you're playing noob. It's so cute. Thump your chest some more, and tell me I can't touch your erudition in insults. Truly, I am enjoying this muchly. Reminds me of Thomas DF. Now THERE was a better-insulter-than-thou troll of monumental proportions.

Posted by Wesley J (# 6075) on :

Can a cunt-brain cock up, one wonders.

Posted by quetzalcoatl (# 16740) on :

quote:
Originally posted by mousethief:

quote:
Originally posted by quetzalcoatl:
Fucking hell, mate, you're an amateur at this.
Oh God, you're playing noob. It's so cute. Thump your chest some more, and tell me I can't touch your erudition in insults. Truly, I am enjoying this muchly. Reminds me of Thomas DF. Now THERE was a better-insulter-than-thou troll of monumental proportions.

Well, I genuinely thought maybe you are autistic, as your attempted corrections of English seemed so weird, or you're maybe a Lithuanian who's autistic. But fucking A, it's much worse, you're a man who does sarcasm. Oh fuck.

Posted by quetzalcoatl (# 16740) on :

Oh fuck, did you really say 'muchly'? Now I just feel sad.

Posted by quetzalcoatl (# 16740) on :

Hey mousethief, I don't know if you're used to this stuff or not, but the point isn't about being clever at insults; well, that is how these things often start. But quite quickly people move beyond that, and that's when it gets serious and grown-up. That's when I wonder if you are an amateur really, and there's something about you that makes me feel sad, as I wonder if you can go beyond the sarcasm or not. Off to watch TV now.

Posted by mousethief (# 953) on :

Still more dick-waving. I'm an amateur and you're a professional. You're used to it, and I'm not. That's where it starts, and apparently that's where it ends.

[ 26. June 2013, 18:36: Message edited by: mousethief ]

Posted by orfeo (# 13878) on :

The interwebz suggests quetzalcoatl is the god of intelligence and self-reflection.

I'm not seeing it.

Posted by quetzalcoatl (# 16740) on :

quote:
Originally posted by mousethief:
Still more dick-waving. I'm an amateur and you're a professional. You're used to it, and I'm not. That's where it starts, and apparently that's where it ends.

No, not dick-waving. You make me feel sad. That's it.

Posted by Sine Nomine (# 66) on :

quote:
Originally posted by quetzalcoatl:
I'm watching you, fuck-face.

That's a little creepy. Unless of course – as I hope – he is speaking metaphorically. Perhaps even transcendentally. But vocabulary and syntax suggest that would be a stretch.

Posted by Jahlove (# 10290) on :

quote:
Originally posted by orfeo:
The interwebz suggests quetzalcoatl is the god of intelligence and self-reflection.

I'm not seeing it.

Every day's an endless dream of ziggurats and thorazine. Mm-hmm.

Posted by Kyzyl (# 374) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Wesley J:
Can a cunt-brain cock up, one wonders.

Of course not.

Posted by Martin PC not & Ship's Biohazard (# 368) on :

@Kelly Alves, like this?

Posted by Golden Key (# 1468) on :

Methinks the MesoAmerican feathered serpent god's feathers are not just ruffled, but bent.

Perhaps no one's made the requisite sacrifice of butterflies and snakes lately???

Posted by orfeo (# 13878) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Kyzyl:

quote:
Originally posted by Wesley J:
Can a cunt-brain cock up, one wonders.
Of course not.

Posted by irish_lord99 (# 16250) on :

Reading all the way back to the original 'offense' in Purg, I can't for the life of me figure what's got him/her so pissed?

You been hitting the sauce Q?

Posted by RooK (# 1852) on :

Wait, you mean we can get paid for insulting people? Fascinating.

Mind you, I'm certain that some people would still earn insults for free.

Posted by duchess (# 2764) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Wesley J:
Time to get your quetzalcoat?

Quite time quesycoat.

[eta: 10 pts = Wesley Jr. ZERO = quesycoat].

[ 27. June 2013, 04:03: Message edited by: duchess ]

Posted by mousethief (# 953) on :

Hi Duchess! Long time! I hope you are doing well.

Posted by Evensong (# 14696) on :

Oh look. The old guard are forming ranks. How cute.

Stand TALL quetzalcoatl !

Posted by mousethief (# 953) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Evensong:
Oh look. The old guard are forming ranks. How cute.

Stand TALL quetzalcoatl !

Oh look, Evensong is sticking up for a jackass underdog and attacking mousethief. How cliché.

Fuck OFF Evensong !

Posted by RooK (# 1852) on :

It is entirely possible that Evensong is completely incapable of fucking off, even when she might suffer insight sufficient to recognize that she should. I can't help imagining that despite being allegedly a human female, she is in fact a just a wobbly phallus that beats its head against a keyboard with senseless impulse. Honestly, how would we tell the difference?

Posted by mousethief (# 953) on :

quote:
Originally posted by RooK:
It is entirely possible that Evensong is completely incapable of fucking off, even when she might suffer insight sufficient to recognize that she should. I can't help imagining that despite being allegedly a human female, she is in fact a just a wobbly phallus that beats its head against a keyboard with senseless impulse. Honestly, how would we tell the difference?

Sticky keysssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

Posted by Evensong (# 14696) on :

I'm so sorry. I humbly beg the old guard's forgiveness.

It's just that I happen to like the current jackass underdog.

*sniffs*

Good lord, why does it smell like mothballs in here?

Posted by orfeo (# 13878) on :

I like quetzalcoatl too. That doesn't automatically prevent quetzalcoatl being a jackass on this particular occasion, though.

The thing that's so fucking annoying about the Evensong patented Support The Underdog technique is that the merit of the individual situation doesn't make the slightest bit of difference.

Posted by duchess (# 2764) on :

quote:
Originally posted by mousethief:
Hi Duchess! Long time! I hope you are doing well.

ducks for cover

Doing fantastic, MouseThief! Hope you, the wife and the kids are too. [Smile]

Now runs out....past the babbling fool in some smelly quesycoat...phewwww...what's that smell??

Posted by Evensong (# 14696) on :

quote:
Originally posted by orfeo:
I like quetzalcoatl too. That doesn't automatically prevent quetzalcoatl being a jackass on this particular occasion, though.

No of course not. But I'm not sure how whingeing about mousetheif making anal-obsessive criticisms of grammar or vocabulary on some of his posts makes him a jackass.

quote:
Originally posted by orfeo:

The thing that's so fucking annoying about the Evensong patented Support The Underdog technique is that the merit of the individual situation doesn't make the slightest bit of difference.

You give me far too much credit my dear boy.

Why, if I could manage to support all underdogs with no consideration of merit I'd be God.

”Love is holy because it is like grace – the worthiness of its object is never really what matters.” Marilynne Robinson

Posted by passer (# 13329) on :

quote:
Originally posted by orfeo:

The thing that's so fucking annoying about the Evensong patented Support The Underdog technique is that the merit of the individual situation doesn't make the slightest bit of difference.

But orfeo - it's a thread about mousethief, so normal rules apply.

Thread revived by the latest in a long line of twats who think they might make a name for themselves (somewhere, anywhere, in their own heads?) by taking on our very own elder statesman (metaphorically MT, no ageism intended).

Treated with appropriate disdain, twat reverts to potty-mouth and the kind of aggressive name-calling that he's seen work on other forums.

Tumbleweed.

Exits with poor grace via this weak post.

And then. Along comes our favourite antipodean (no offence orfeo). She sees a gap in the attention-seeker market. She digs out her favourite fancy fuck-me underwear from the special drawer (it's been a while.... she finds the smell of camphor strangely distracting, and yet arousing, driving her on once more - maybe this time she'll pull...).

She's immediately rebuffed, so tosses in the "old guard" firecracker to see if it'll actually ignite this time. It doesn't. Ho-hum.

This is the way her world will end, not with a bang but a wimple.

Posted by Evensong (# 14696) on :

You really should write for the screen passer. You're very good.

Posted by quetzalcoatl (# 16740) on :

quote:
Originally posted by passer:

quote:
Originally posted by orfeo:

The thing that's so fucking annoying about the Evensong patented Support The Underdog technique is that the merit of the individual situation doesn't make the slightest bit of difference.
But orfeo - it's a thread about mousethief, so normal rules apply.

Thread revived by the latest in a long line of twats who think they might make a name for themselves (somewhere, anywhere, in their own heads?) by taking on our very own elder statesman (metaphorically MT, no ageism intended).

Treated with appropriate disdain, twat reverts to potty-mouth and the kind of aggressive name-calling that he's seen work on other forums.

Tumbleweed.

Exits with poor grace via this weak post.

And then. Along comes our favourite antipodean (no offence orfeo). She sees a gap in the attention-seeker market. She digs out her favourite fancy fuck-me underwear from the special drawer (it's been a while.... she finds the smell of camphor strangely distracting, and yet arousing, driving her on once more - maybe this time she'll pull...).

She's immediately rebuffed, so tosses in the "old guard" firecracker to see if it'll actually ignite this time. It doesn't. Ho-hum.

This is the way her world will end, not with a bang but a wimple.

Not trying to make a name for myself; just objected to series of anal-obsessive criticisms of grammar by mousethief; received series of sarcastic responses; got angry; don't care if he's the Lord Chamberlain really; 'weak post'? Is it - dunno, mousethief seems a sad fellow to me.

Posted by mousethief (# 953) on :

quote:
Originally posted by quetzalcoatl:
mousethief seems a sad fellow to me.

But of a one-note opera, aren't you?

Posted by passer (# 13329) on :

He doesn't strike me as a sad fellow at all, Quetzalcoatl.

You've been here a while, so should know this. Regarding his style, his 52K posts on this board should lead you (correctly) to expect that it's very finely honed. If he respects your approach, he can argue eloquently and at length as I'm sure you're aware, but if he tires either of you or your argument, and thinks you're campaigning or proselytising or just blinkered in your views, or a twat, he is likely to dismiss you with a pithy one-liner, or start poking you with a metaphorical stick and making you squeal. As you have experienced. If you upset him, he can be quite fiery too.

To the best of my knowledge, he has never come second in a Hell-spat, so the most you can do is vent, if you feel the need to do anything. He is rather fond of having the last word though, so engage at your peril. If he lets you have the last word, it's because you've been dismissed, not because you've won.

If I were you I'd let it go. If he's chosen an angle from which to poke you, and you attempt to respond in kind, you should accept that you're playing by his rules, which isn't promising from your perspective. You're just distracting yourself from your mission, whatever that might be.

He is a terrific contributor to the board, driving discussion and rousing ire in equal parts - generating traffic! Although not universally loved either by transient shipmates or the local autocracy, he endures, which is indicative of something or other. I doubt that he encounters much on here that is new to him nowadays. And for the record, I'm not "old guard" - he's been here twice as long as me. And he called me a nasty word once.

(Will that do, mousethief?)

Posted by South Coast Kevin (# 16130) on :

quote:
Originally posted by passer:
To the best of my knowledge, he has never come second in a Hell-spat, so the most you can do is vent, if you feel the need to do anything. He is rather fond of having the last word though, so engage at your peril. If he lets you have the last word, it's because you've been dismissed, not because you've won.

Hmm, respect for a valued and energetic contributor is all good but IMO this is getting in to overly deferential territory. Let's not set up mousethief as one whom no-one dares criticise, for fear of a sycophancy-driven lynching.

Posted by comet (# 10353) on :

I'm just wondering if MT at least gave passer a nice reach-around for that post. hooo-boy.

Posted by passer (# 13329) on :

I've always been a bit of a fan-boy-type comet, I have a helluva reputation for it around here....... however, he has a beard. And Josephine.

Kevin, overly deferential is not really my bag. I did elect not to point out the typo in his last post, but that's because I was scared.

Describing the usual outcome of a situation doesn't preclude it from being repeated. I just thought that Quetzalcoatl's tack, after being dismissed, was a bit kind of "Yo mama so big etc.", and in my magnanimity was trying to suggest that he should probably be a tad more inventive in his response, rather than being steamrollered. Bit of a well-intentioned pity-post.

Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on :

Yeah, like nobody's ever accused MT being pedantic and pissy before.

I'm not sure napalm-grade fury is the most fitting response either, though. WTF, Q?

@Martin--Possibly...

(Crosspost-- agreeing with Comet. Maybe she'll now want to garrotte me for agreeing with her.)

[ 27. June 2013, 21:07: Message edited by: Kelly Alves ]

Posted by South Coast Kevin (# 16130) on :

quote:
Originally posted by passer:
Kevin, overly deferential is not really my bag. I did elect not to point out the typo in his last post, but that's because I was scared.

Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on :

Passer, I take back every bad thing I have said about you, except volumes 3-5.

Posted by Socratic-enigma (# 12074) on :

quote:
Originally posted by mousethief:
But of a one-note opera, aren't you?

I suspect MT may be attempting an English accent - scouser perhaps?

S-E

Posted by quetzalcoatl (# 16740) on :

passer

Fabulous encomium there for mousethief, tending towards the bottom-licking, I suppose.

I must admit I haven't really been aware of mousethief since I've been coming here. I was just warning him not to keep on with the obsessive grammatical criticism. Inane, and insane, really.

Posted by Sine Nomine (# 66) on :

quote:
Originally posted by quetzalcoatl:
I must admit I haven't really been aware of mousethief since I've been coming here.

This sentence is so preposterously unlikely I thought it deserved to be showcased.

Posted by quetzalcoatl (# 16740) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Sine Nomine:

quote:
Originally posted by quetzalcoatl:
I must admit I haven't really been aware of mousethief since I've been coming here.
This sentence is so preposterously unlikely I thought it deserved to be showcased.

So do you think I am pretending that?

Posted by Sine Nomine (# 66) on :

I certainly didn't pick the words 'preposterously unlikely' at random.

Posted by quetzalcoatl (# 16740) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Sine Nomine:
I certainly didn't pick the words 'preposterously unlikely' at random.

Why the fuck would I pretend?

Posted by Sine Nomine (# 66) on :

Uh... Emotional immaturity? A childish need to appear right at all costs? I could go on, but while I've got your attention what the hell did you mean up thread by "I'm watching you fuck face"?

That had a really creepy stalker feel to it.

Posted by quetzalcoatl (# 16740) on :

I've noticed the people I've interacted with, that is, on the same thread. As far as I know, I've never addressed mousethief on a thread, nor he me, until this stupid grammatical shit. So why would I be aware of him?

I'm just telling him to fuck off with his witless grammatical analysis.

Posted by Sine Nomine (# 66) on :

"I'm watching you"?

You don't do cam2cam do you?

Posted by quetzalcoatl (# 16740) on :

Getting bored now. Telly's on.

Posted by Sine Nomine (# 66) on :

Don't be ashamed. Lots of people do it. It's perfectly normal...kind of.

Posted by duchess (# 2764) on :

Uncle Sine 10 pts, queasycoat = minus 10 now

[eta: I picture queasycoat in a smelly trench coat...blaring videos of MT, touching...something. Oh that was disturbing, nevermind.]

[ 28. June 2013, 01:20: Message edited by: duchess ]

Posted by RooK (# 1852) on :

When did watching TV become code for "I know I'm losing an argument and want to flee"?

Posted by orfeo (# 13878) on :

Ah, passer. It seems I have underestimated you. Behind those little bouts of passive aggressive snark there lay an astute observational mind.

Posted by comet (# 10353) on :

meh.

maybe it's the Quaker in me, but I've always known that deep beneath the surface of every asshole there's at least one redeeming quality. however vestigial it might be.

it's the outward behavior that impacts me. So passer is still a cranky little fucker in my book.

Not that that's a bad thing. I have a natural affinity for dickheads.

Posted by mousethief (# 953) on :

quote:
Originally posted by passer:
(Will that do, mousethief?)

Yes. The chocolate is in the mail.

Posted by mousethief (# 953) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
Yeah, like nobody's ever accused MT being pedantic and pissy before.

Pace the thread title?

Posted by JFH (# 14794) on :

It seems to me that Mousethief has a strange ability to rub your nose in your own weakness, and reflects your own shortcomings in a way that could almost be described as prophetic. That doesn't take away from that he's rather anal in even his most brilliant posts. He's sort of the F.C. Barcelona of the Ship...

[ 28. June 2013, 08:57: Message edited by: JFH ]

Posted by quetzalcoatl (# 16740) on :

Off-topic - that Barcelona article, another great piece by that monster, Barney Ronay.

Posted by Evensong (# 14696) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
Passer, I take back every bad thing I have said about you, except volumes 3-5.

You been reading Jerk Dogmatics have you?

If so, I'd agree but I wouldn't take back volumes 3-13.

[ 28. June 2013, 11:48: Message edited by: Evensong ]

Posted by Evensong (# 14696) on :

Oh and mousetheif? I reckon you should rename yourself "Ship's Golden Boy - Above Reproach".

The ass licking is making me sick.

Oh and duchess? Go back to whatever kindergarten playground you escaped from. Please.

Posted by Yorick (# 12169) on :

I like quetzalcoatl. I always liked his evenhanded contributions and mild manner, and I like him even more now I know he can get unreasonably angry and offensive.

I'd buy him a beer.

Posted by orfeo (# 13878) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Evensong:
The ass licking is making me sick.

It's working, everybody KEEP LICKING!

Posted by RooK (# 1852) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Evensong:
I reckon you should rename yourself "Ship's Golden Boy - Above Reproach".

I should point out that Mousethief's long career posting here has been filled with all sorts of reproach. While his ability to accept said reproach has only just barely kept him from being banned a couple of times, that's more than can be said for others.

Yorick, your ongoing embracing of fucking moronic irony reinforces your reputation. Indeed, I suspect that many of us could have known who wrote that even if completely devoid of markings or context. Congratulations on approaching even closer to the asymptote of your own caricature.

Posted by quetzalcoatl (# 16740) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Yorick:
I like quetzalcoatl. I always liked his evenhanded contributions and mild manner, and I like him even more now I know he can get unreasonably angry and offensive.

I'd buy him a beer.

You're on mate. Let's make it Irish car bombs (the cocktail)!

Posted by mousethief (# 953) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Evensong:
Oh and mousetheif?

Was that intentional, or are you just stupid?

Posted by Jahlove (# 10290) on :

quote:
Originally posted by RooK:
When did watching TV become code for "I know I'm losing an argument and want to flee"?

About the same time as "I wish to spend more time with my family" became code for politicians about to be publicized with trousers down/hands in till.

Posted by Mamacita (# 3659) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Evensong:
Oh and duchess? Go back to whatever kindergarten playground you escaped from. Please.

Duchess was slamming phonies with her steel-plated Bible back when you had just begun filling out seminary applications. Have some respect.

Posted by mousethief (# 953) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Mamacita:

quote:
Originally posted by Evensong:
Oh and duchess? Go back to whatever kindergarten playground you escaped from. Please.
Duchess was slamming phonies with her steel-plated Bible back when you had just begun filling out seminary applications. Have some respect.

Getting insulted by Evensong is like having a stray dog shit on your porch.

Posted by Evensong (# 14696) on :

quote:
Originally posted by mousethief:

quote:
Originally posted by Evensong:
Oh and mousetheif?
Was that intentional, or are you just stupid?

Is this yet another example of you being anally retentive about syntax and punctuation?

[Killing me]

I think perhaps you need to hear Stephen Fry's wisdom. 4.44 is particularly apposite for you.

Posted by orfeo (# 13878) on :

quote:
Originally posted by mousethief:

quote:
Originally posted by Mamacita:

quote:
Originally posted by Evensong:
Oh and duchess? Go back to whatever kindergarten playground you escaped from. Please.
Duchess was slamming phonies with her steel-plated Bible back when you had just begun filling out seminary applications. Have some respect.
Getting insulted by Evensong is like having a stray dog shit on your porch.

Meh. More like a stray squirrel.

Posted by mousethief (# 953) on :

Edited to provide context.

quote:
Originally posted by Evensong:
Was that intentional, or are you just stupid?

quote:
Originally posted by Evensong:
Is this yet another example of you being anally retentive about syntax and punctuation?

Ah, you're just stupid. Fits in with all existing evidence; no need to change paradigms.

[ 29. June 2013, 04:47: Message edited by: mousethief ]

Posted by mousethief (# 953) on :

Oh, and fuckwit, people wanting to have their names spelled correctly is not anal retentive. One's personal name is rather an important thing to a human being. You might want to read up about human beings. If you're going to be a clergyperson*, you will want to know a bit about us.

___
*oh dear God

Posted by duchess (# 2764) on :

Evensong, this is my playground. I am too bored honestly by your sad antics, to even try to play with you.

[edited because grammar.]

[ 29. June 2013, 05:58: Message edited by: duchess ]

Posted by Golden Key (# 1468) on :

Psssst, Duchess: if you do decide to play, bring your stainless-steel Bible! Hasn't been seen in these parts for a long time.

kthxbai [Smile]

Posted by Pooks (# 11425) on :

quote:
Originally posted by quetzalcoatl:
But why do you keep correcting other posts? Is it that you are not a native speaker of English, or you're anal-obsessive, or just for shits and giggles?

You seem to be assuming that non-native English speakers have a habit of correcting others' posts. As a non-native English speaker here on the Ship, I would very much like to see your reason for that assumption please.

Personally, I have been on the receiving end of corrections all the time, but I see it as that someone is doing me a favour by pointing it out most of the time. Yes it can be irritating if I was already in a bad mood, but most of the time I don't see it as a negative. One thing that hasn't been said during this particular spat is that for some people, atrocious grammar and bad spelling can be extremely irritating for them to read. In those cases, when they exercise restraint by saying nothing, they are being very tolerant as well, but nobody knows about it. I don't know if this applies to Mousie or not, but this my two pennies worth for you to consider.

quote:
Originally posted by RooK:
Congratulations on approaching even closer to the asymptote of your own caricature.

[*sighs. Goes to look up asymptote. ]

Big bird, every time you post, I have to go and look up some word that I have never seen before. I bet you didn't know that you are quite a motivational educator here, did you? Yup! Even floccinaucinihilipilification works in mysterious ways.

Posted by Patdys (# 9397) on :

Like aperients?

Posted by Pooks (# 11425) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Patdys:
Like aperients?

No, but it's better than constipation. For someone who can't spell, aperients consists only of 9 letters, constipation uses 12. It's clear which requires less effort. [Razz]

Posted by quetzalcoatl (# 16740) on :

Hi Pooks. No, I wasn't thinking that non-native speakers are more likely to correct stuff, but less likely to understand idioms, such as 'he came over all postmodern', etc. You can tell a really good second language speaker by the grasp of idioms, innit?

Posted by Pooks (# 11425) on :

Ok. Thanks for the clarification. Cheers! [Big Grin]

Posted by Sine Nomine (# 66) on :

quote:
Originally posted by mousethief:
Oh, and fuckwit, people wanting to have their names spelled correctly is not anal retentive. One's personal name is rather an important thing to a human being.

On the other hand as one of my grandmothers was fond of advising me "Consider the source."

(Although 'mousethief' is not your actual personal name, which raises some interesting identity questions. "Back away from the keyboard" comes to mind.)

[ 29. June 2013, 17:19: Message edited by: Sine Nomine ]

Posted by passer (# 13329) on :

...... says the man with no name. [Cool]

Posted by Sine Nomine (# 66) on :

(I had to get over people calling me 'Sign'.)

Posted by Patdys (# 9397) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Pooks:

quote:
Originally posted by Patdys:
Like aperients?
No, but it's better than constipation. For someone who can't spell, aperients consists only of 9 letters, constipation uses 12. It's clear which requires less effort.

Can you beat five letters?
And for double your money, what is the twenty six letter word starting and ending in N that means constipation?

Posted by Patdys (# 9397) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Sine Nomine:
(I had to get over people calling me 'Sign'.)

Yeah but when people say 'stop Sine', you can proceed with caution...

Posted by Zacchaeus (# 14454) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Patdys:

quote:
Originally posted by Pooks:

quote:
Originally posted by Patdys:
Like aperients?
No, but it's better than constipation. For someone who can't spell, aperients consists only of 9 letters, constipation uses 12. It's clear which requires less effort.
Can you beat five letters?
And for double your money, what is the twenty six letter word starting and ending in N that means constipation?

Goodness me that joke was in the rag mag when I was at university 30 mumble mumble years ago.

Now I know I'm old.. That's why this is hell I suppose.....

Posted by duchess (# 2764) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Patdys:

quote:
Originally posted by Sine Nomine:
(I had to get over people calling me 'Sign'.)
Yeah but when people say 'stop Sine', you can proceed with caution...

rhymes with "silly". This is how I remember. [Biased]

[eta: actually I am DEAD WRONG here. It seems to GO SOMEHOW with silly. See-nay. Oh I'll get me queasy-coat. [Hot and Hormonal]

]

[ 29. June 2013, 20:52: Message edited by: duchess ]

Posted by duchess (# 2764) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Golden Key:
Psssst, Duchess: if you do decide to play, bring your stainless-steel Bible! Hasn't been seen in these parts for a long time.

kthxbai

I'll get back to you on that one. But I've become a damn Progressive Christian who still believes the bible is inerrant.

Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on :

Sine-- I totally believe Quetzalcoatl hasn't run into MT much yet, mostly because QC (I guess?) has been sticking to a small number of threads so far. He has seemed pretty cool, well-informed, and pragmatic in those venues, too. I hope the two gentlemen eventually get over all this and hold hands and and sing kumbayah and stuff, because they might like each other.

MT, I would agree with everything RooK said in response to Evensong's "above reproach" comment except to edit one sentence to read "While his ability to turn into Edward Scissorhands for about a day or so and then accept said reproach." Because I can be picky, too.

And now for you, Evensong-- whatever about everyone else. You are not worthy to scrub out Duchess's toilet with a toothbrush you intend to use. You have no clue the caliber of person you are cutely dismissing like that, and it is your sad, ignorant misfortune that you don't.

[ 29. June 2013, 22:58: Message edited by: Kelly Alves ]

Posted by Sine Nomine (# 66) on :

(Oh shit. I just tried to 'like' Kelly's post.)

Posted by mousethief (# 953) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Sine Nomine:
(Although 'mousethief' is not your actual personal name, which raises some interesting identity questions. "Back away from the keyboard" comes to mind.)

That's not a question, it's a command or suggestion. [Biased]

Posted by Sine Nomine (# 66) on :

I segued. Sorry if it threw you.

Posted by RooK (# 1852) on :

To be pedantic¹, the first sentence need not be directly connected to the second sentence in terms of objects. They can be separate supporting statements to the thesis. No matter what Strunk and White might prefer.

¹ I realize that this phrase is generally "understood" in my case and thus superfluous. I just like how the phraseology rolls off my keyboard.

Posted by mousethief (# 953) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Sine Nomine:
I segued. Sorry if it threw you.

Well, "segue" means "to move smoothly from one state or subject to another," and that was rather abrupt and unsignalled.

Posted by Sioni Sais (# 5713) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Sine Nomine:
(I had to get over people calling me 'Sign'.)

Hell, there are people in Wales who mispronouce the name I use here (they mispronounce my surname too but WTF).

Posted by passer (# 13329) on :

Fish - check.
Barrel - check.
Shotgu....

Sod it, too easy. Opportunity declined.

Posted by mousethief (# 953) on :

The fucking obnoxious thing of it is, quetzalcoatl sometimes says things that I either agree or disagree with and want to respond to, but I don't dare lest he think I'm picking on him or something, the poor, fragile, precious little dear. Fuck you, you pansy.

Posted by Patdys (# 9397) on :

The very model of restraint. [Big Grin]

Posted by mousethief (# 953) on :

[Big Grin]

Posted by Left at the Altar (# 5077) on :

I think Snarkymouse is a nice name.

And a nice gesture.

Posted by quetzalcoatl (# 16740) on :

quote:
Originally posted by mousethief:
The fucking obnoxious thing of it is, quetzalcoatl sometimes says things that I either agree or disagree with and want to respond to, but I don't dare lest he think I'm picking on him or something, the poor, fragile, precious little dear. Fuck you, you pansy.

How about we have a truce? I'm OK with you agreeing or disagreeing with me. If you want to talk about grammar, maybe we could have a thread on it, but I have a Ph. D. in linguistics, so I might just fuck you with a dangling participle.

Posted by mousethief (# 953) on :

You can't even call a truce without dickwaving your fucking PhD and making threats. Do you have "loser" tattooed on your forehead?

Posted by Wesley J (# 6075) on :

quote:
Originally posted by quetzalcoatl:
[...] I have a Ph. D. in linguistics [...]

Don't we all.

Posted by Wesley J (# 6075) on :

quote:
Originally posted by mousethief:
[...] Do you have "loser" tattooed on your forehead?

On his dick.

Posted by Sioni Sais (# 5713) on :

quote:
Originally posted by mousethief:
You can't even call a truce without dickwaving your fucking PhD and making threats. Do you have "loser" tattooed on your forehead?

That'll be Dr Loser*, thank you.

(*in polite academic circles)

Posted by mousethief (# 953) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Sioni Sais:

quote:
Originally posted by mousethief:
You can't even call a truce without dickwaving your fucking PhD and making threats. Do you have "loser" tattooed on your forehead?
That'll be Dr Loser*, thank you.

(*in polite academic circles)

Cha. Linguistics. That's not a real doctor.

Posted by Wesley J (# 6075) on :

Bones, now he was a real doctor. He even cured the sick bay.

Posted by quetzalcoatl (# 16740) on :

quote:
Originally posted by mousethief:
You can't even call a truce without dickwaving your fucking PhD and making threats. Do you have "loser" tattooed on your forehead?

But c'mon, you are beginning to like me, aren't you? Just a bit?

Posted by Leorning Cniht (# 17564) on :

quote:
Originally posted by mousethief:
You can't even call a truce without dickwaving your fucking PhD

I didn't know you could get one for that... [Hot and Hormonal]

Posted by mousethief (# 953) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Leorning Cniht:

quote:
Originally posted by mousethief:
You can't even call a truce without dickwaving your fucking PhD
I didn't know you could get one for that...

Posted by Palimpsest (# 16772) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Leorning Cniht:

quote:
Originally posted by mousethief:
You can't even call a truce without dickwaving your fucking PhD
I didn't know you could get one for that...

I think you can in San Francisco ;-)

Posted by duchess (# 2764) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Palimpsest:
I think you can in San Francisco ;-)

Because of gay pride, and less judgement towards same sex marriage, you are saying that PhDs are given away for dicks in SF? Your joke runs flat, limp, dare I say...flaccid. Cold.
[Roll Eyes]

[edited to make post solid as a rock.]

[ 06. July 2013, 17:07: Message edited by: duchess ]

Posted by mousethief (# 953) on :

Duchess, I find that my feelings about your post are going up and down. At first I think it's swell, then I think it falls short.

Posted by comet (# 10353) on :

'cause we never get enough dick jokes in Hell.

Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on :

I am going to assume you mean that. and totally agree.

Posted by Wesley J (# 6075) on :

After all, your last VeePee was a right real Dick.

Posted by Palimpsest (# 16772) on :

quote:
Originally posted by duchess:

quote:
Originally posted by Palimpsest:
I think you can in San Francisco ;-)
Because of gay pride, and less judgement towards same sex marriage, you are

You can get a degree at the City College of San Francisco Gay and Lesbian Studies programs on a wide variety of topics including Dick Waving. It's part of a larger community writing and making art, films and theory that includes Susie Bright, Peter Berlin, a friend of mine who did a documentary on the Cockettes and James Franco although he's trying right now to get his Doctorate at NYU.
I've sat through readings of academic papers on San Francisco Leather Bars and the history of the Lesbian Bar Maud's. You can get a doctorate on the topic of Dick Waving in San Francisco.

Posted by duchess (# 2764) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Palimpsest:
You can get a degree at the City College of San Francisco Gay and Lesbian Studies programs on a wide variety of topics including Dick Waving. It's part of a larger community writing and making art, films and theory that includes Susie Bright, Peter Berlin, a friend of mine who did a documentary on the Cockettes and James Franco although he's trying right now to get his Doctorate at NYU.
I've sat through readings of academic papers on San Francisco Leather Bars and the history of the Lesbian Bar Maud's. You can get a doctorate on the topic of Dick Waving in San Francisco. [/QB]

Go on. I looked for sources and could not, but I am inclined to take you at your word having lived here in the Bay Area since 1976. Please link to sources. Also, I apologize, I took your post wrong. Thanks for clearing that up. I now am going to eat my veggies and go for a walk. Looks like I need to stay off the interweb for a bit.
[Hot and Hormonal]

Posted by Palimpsest (# 16772) on :

quote:
Originally posted by duchess:

quote:
Originally posted by Palimpsest:
You can get a degree at the City College of San Francisco Gay and Lesbian Studies programs on a wide variety of topics including Dick Waving. It's part of a larger community writing and making art, films and theory that includes Susie Bright, Peter Berlin, a friend of mine who did a documentary on the Cockettes and James Franco although he's trying right now to get his Doctorate at NYU.
I've sat through readings of academic papers on San Francisco Leather Bars and the history of the Lesbian Bar Maud's. You can get a doctorate on the topic of Dick Waving in San Francisco.

Go on. I looked for sources and could not, but I am inclined to take you at your word having lived here in the Bay Area since 1976. Please link to sources. Also, I apologize, I took your post wrong. Thanks for clearing that up. I now am going to eat my veggies and go for a walk. Looks like I need to stay off the interweb for a bit.
[/QB]

I've been chided before here not to put in a lot of urls since it makes a lot of work for hell hosts.
So let me give you a resource summary which itself has a lot of links
LGBTQI Studies & Sexuality Studies Programs in North
America

Look up San Francisco State University (although they now only list a masters program), City College of San Francisco: Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual, and Transgender Studies
Department.

The Institute for Advanced Study of Human Sexuality

And slightly out of the city, UC/Berkeley and Stanford have undergraduate degrees.

Since it's been decades since I went to a queer theory class, I'm not able to rummage up the citation on the anthropology paper on the leather s/m bar the Eagle. I think it was by Gayle Rubin but I can't find it online directly.

For the rest of the dick waving many books have been made into films. The Frameline.org annual film festival lists a lot of documentaries. Peter Berlin, Susie Bright all have books about or by them. There is a good film about the Cockettes, a moving documentary about Harvey Milk.

Posted by Twilight (# 2832) on :

Glad this is still here since MT called me a racist on the Zimmerman thread and I just wanted to say:

I'd bet every penny I own that I've had more real, face to face, dealings with African-Americans, racism, and the fight for civil rights in any single year of my life than Mousethief has in his entire rarified, cloistered existence. Fighting racism is about actually doing things not sitting in front of your computer calling people names when they don't fit your Liberal Views checklist.

You have had, first me, then MOO, finally Tortuf explain what the case was about and how the evidence of Trayvon's membership in a fight club factored into Zimmerman's self-defense claim and you have chosen to ignore it because you think it makes you look like the great white defender of poor mistreated blacks to call other white people racist. It's illogical and ridiculous.

Posted by mousethief (# 953) on :

Twilight, friend of friends, if you will look at what I called you out on, it was "gold teeth and tattoos." Lots of people not in fight clubs have gold teeth and tattoos. Thanks for playing.

Posted by JFH (# 14794) on :

Yep, MT, you're pulling a Neymar on that one.

Posted by mousethief (# 953) on :

English please?

Posted by Sioni Sais (# 5713) on :

quote:
Originally posted by mousethief:
English please?

This is a reference to a soccer player "taking a dive". I expect JFH implies you have dived in with insufficient regard for the possible consequences. Don't worry though, there's a lot of it about.

Posted by JFH (# 14794) on :

You cried havoc and let loose the language of war over what was obviously fair play. How's my grammar, btw?

Posted by Sioni Sais (# 5713) on :

quote:
Originally posted by JFH:
You cried havoc and let loose the language of war over what was obviously fair play. How's my grammar, btw?

Is that in reply to me or Mousethief? You are free to play the man instead of the ball in Hell but give us a clue which man you are playing.

Posted by mousethief (# 953) on :

"Taking a dive" would mean someone hit me legally and I was trying to get them thrown out of the game by appealing to the referees with a false show of injury.

I'm having a real hard time seeing how this applies.

Oh, and "how's my grammar"? Really? A little childish, aren't you?

Posted by JFH (# 14794) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Sioni Sais:

quote:
Originally posted by JFH:
You cried havoc and let loose the language of war over what was obviously fair play. How's my grammar, btw?
Is that in reply to me or Mousethief? You are free to play the man instead of the ball in Hell but give us a clue which man you are playing.

Mousethief. Sorry for lack of clarity.

quote:
Originally posted by mousethief:
"Taking a dive" would mean someone hit me legally and I was trying to get them thrown out of the game by appealing to the referees with a false show of injury.

I'm having a real hard time seeing how this applies.

Or it could mean exaggerating a situation beyond reckoning or reason. Calling racism on Twilight's reasonable argument was.

quote:
Oh, and "how's my grammar"? Really? A little childish, aren't you?

I thought it pretty apt given the start of this thread and your reference to English (as if football/soccer wouldn't be!). Ah well. I think you'll live.

Posted by RuthW (# 13) on :

I'm trying to work out how pointing out that someone has gold teeth and tattoos makes Twilight a racist. To me those are signifiers of class, not race.

Posted by mousethief (# 953) on :

quote:
Originally posted by JFH:
I thought it pretty apt given the start of this thread and your reference to English (as if football/soccer wouldn't be!). Ah well. I think you'll live.

My God, you're a dolt. Asking for a translation of something into English isn't denying that football is an English game. It's asking for a translation of something into English. The implication being that "pulling a Neymar" isn't a standard phrase in the part of the world I inhabit.

Posted by mousethief (# 953) on :

quote:
Originally posted by RuthW:
I'm trying to work out how pointing out that someone has gold teeth and tattoos makes Twilight a racist. To me those are signifiers of class, not race.

Really? What class is a tattoo a marker of? What class are gold teeth a marker of?

Posted by Twilight (# 2832) on :

I know where tattoos and gold teeth are not usually found -- on sweet pre-teen kids whose only interest is candy and baseball. If the prosecution can, as it did, actually bring in and wave around a bag of Skittles to try and put the latter picture in the minds of the jury then I think it's only fair for the defense to have pointed out features that are usually found on an older, tougher person.

Posted by lilBuddha (# 14333) on :

Skittles, not a gun, was the impression I received. That what Martin had was innocuous, no matter the age of the carrier.
Why "sweet"? I have tattoos, and whilst sweet may not be the best descriptor for me, I know a lot of truly sweet people with tattoos. Also educated, high earners; lawyers, doctors, engineers.

Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on :

quote:
Originally posted by mousethief:

quote:
Originally posted by RuthW:
I'm trying to work out how pointing out that someone has gold teeth and tattoos makes Twilight a racist. To me those are signifiers of class, not race.
Really? What class is a tattoo a marker of? What class are gold teeth a marker of?

Replace "class" with "race" and you've made Ruth's point for her.

Posted by RuthW (# 13) on :

quote:
Originally posted by mousethief:

quote:
Originally posted by RuthW:
I'm trying to work out how pointing out that someone has gold teeth and tattoos makes Twilight a racist. To me those are signifiers of class, not race.
Really? What class is a tattoo a marker of? What class are gold teeth a marker of?

You don't know? How many successful politicians and folks in business have you seen sporting either?

Sure, lots of people get tattoos these days, but people who think they're going to get ahead in life still for the most part get those tattoos in places covered by business attire. In general, if you have a stake in the system, you don't get tattoos visible in a business suit, and you sure as hell don't get gold teeth.

Posted by mousethief (# 953) on :

quote:
Originally posted by RuthW:
Sure, lots of people get tattoos these days, but people who think they're going to get ahead in life still for the most part get those tattoos in places covered by business attire. In general, if you have a stake in the system, you don't get tattoos visible in a business suit, and you sure as hell don't get gold teeth.

Were Trayvon's tattoos in places that couldn't be hidden by a business suit? I don't remember seeing any photos of his tattoos.

Posted by RuthW (# 13) on :

I don't know. I was speaking in general. Which is why I said, you know, "in general."

But if you want to call someone a racist, make it BWSmith, and I'll be on board with that. Though perhaps he deserves his own thread?

(And while I'm at it, thank you for re-posting the Mousethief Cooler recipe a little while ago in Heaven. I stumbled across it last Friday and blessed your name several times on Saturday.)

Posted by mousethief (# 953) on :

quote:
Originally posted by RuthW:
But if you want to call someone a racist, make it BWSmith, and I'll be on board with that. Though perhaps he deserves his own thread?

There's a winner. My God, he doesn't think there are white people who hate black people, and he thinks all racial tension is caused by black people being vindictive (or I suppose you could use "uppity"). What a tool.

quote:
(And while I'm at it, thank you for re-posting the Mousethief Cooler recipe a little while ago in Heaven. I stumbled across it last Friday and blessed your name several times on Saturday.)

Good stuff ain't it? Awesome sauce on a hot day.

Posted by JFH (# 14794) on :

quote:
Originally posted by mousethief:

quote:
Originally posted by JFH:
I thought it pretty apt given the start of this thread and your reference to English (as if football/soccer wouldn't be!). Ah well. I think you'll live.
My God, you're a dolt. Asking for a translation of something into English isn't denying that football is an English game. It's asking for a translation of something into English. The implication being that "pulling a Neymar" isn't a standard phrase in the part of the world I inhabit.

May the Lord bless you and keep you.
May the Lord show you the imperfections of your words in ways more gentle, patient and wise than I ever could, and be gracious to you.
May the Lord turn his face toward you, and give you peace.

Posted by mousethief (# 953) on :

Prayer as personal attack. Nice. Very Christian.

Posted by Evensong (# 14696) on :

True. Much better than personal attack without prayer. [Big Grin]

Posted by RuthW (# 13) on :

Hey, it's a venerable Christian tradition, taking shots at people under the guise of lifting up concerns in prayer.

Lord, I just pray for JFH, that he would just realize what a douchebag he is.

Posted by JFH (# 14794) on :

Awright, it was a jerk move. But so was not getting (or acting as if not getting) that the bit about the English* was pure snark. As well as not responding to the pertinent point but instead going full out on an accusation of stupidity for twisting your rhetorics. Not sure who's the dolt, but I'm done here.

*Language and sport.

Posted by JFH (# 14794) on :

Actually, I'd take even that back if I could.

Mousethief, I wanted to support Twilight as I considered her falsely and excessively zealously accused of racism. I attempted to do that in hellion style, with snark and wits and clever language, but failing to communicate that proved that I evidently couldn't master that. I cannot be sorry for my failing command of the English language (which you are indeed a master of, given your talent for stylish putdowns and oneliners) as it's not due to lack of trying, but I am sorry for not realising that the temptation of snark may really be a temptation of pride, and for acting that out and placing my own pride before you as a human being and offending you and other Christian brethren for a cheap attempt at bolstering my own sorry excuse for a self-confidence.

In conclusion: I maintain that I think you went too far and out of line in accusing Twilight of racism, but I admit that I failed to communicate that and that I also added another motive of pride and subjected you to that. I'm sorry for that.

Posted by Sioni Sais (# 5713) on :

JFH, you're some 50 kiloposts behind Mousethief, that accounts for some of the difference.

Posted by mousethief (# 953) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Evensong:
True. Much better than personal attack without prayer.

I dunno. Assholity, or assholity PLUS blasphemy. I'm going to say you're 180° wrong here.

I won't say how unusual I find that.

quote:
Originally posted by JFH:
Awright, it was a jerk move. But so was not getting (or acting as if not getting) that the bit about the English* was pure snark.

Uh, no. I don't follow football. I don't have a fuck's idea who Neymar is. That you think everybody knows what you do about football says something about you. I'm not sure what. Something not very flattering, though.

[ 16. July 2013, 19:18: Message edited by: mousethief ]

Posted by daronmedway (# 3012) on :

quote:
Originally posted by mousethief:
Prayer as personal attack. Nice. Very Christian.

Happens a lot. Sadly. It always amazes me how the person doing it doesn't seem to think everyone else is onto what they're doing.

Posted by Twilight (# 2832) on :

JFH was not trying to get away with anything, he was trying a bit of clever snark. He has since apologized very nicely and humbly to the mighty Mouse. What's more he defended me. I think he's great. [Razz]

Posted by mousethief (# 953) on :

Who said anything about getting away with anything?

Posted by Twilight (# 2832) on :

daronmedway

Posted by Evensong (# 14696) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Twilight:
JFH was not trying to get away with anything, he was trying a bit of clever snark.

Amen sister. [Big Grin]

Posted by comet (# 10353) on :

quote:
Originally posted by JFH:
Actually, I'd take even that back if I could.

Mousethief, I wanted to support Twilight as I considered her falsely and excessively zealously accused of racism. I attempted to do that in hellion style, with snark and wits and clever language, but failing to communicate that proved that I evidently couldn't master that. I cannot be sorry for my failing command of the English language (which you are indeed a master of, given your talent for stylish putdowns and oneliners) as it's not due to lack of trying, but I am sorry for not realising that the temptation of snark may really be a temptation of pride, and for acting that out and placing my own pride before you as a human being and offending you and other Christian brethren for a cheap attempt at bolstering my own sorry excuse for a self-confidence.

In conclusion: I maintain that I think you went too far and out of line in accusing Twilight of racism, but I admit that I failed to communicate that and that I also added another motive of pride and subjected you to that. I'm sorry for that.

sheer class.

Posted by Evensong (# 14696) on :

That's not class.

That's lowering your standards and buckling to mousetheif's silly comment about being a nice Christian.

I thought he communicated via snark very well. [Cool]

Posted by mousethief (# 953) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Evensong:
That's not class.

That's lowering your standards and buckling to mousetheif's silly comment about being a nice Christian.

I thought he communicated via snark very well.

Interesting. You (1) find complaining about blasphemy to be silly, and (2) applaud blasphemy, and (3) excoriate JFH for repenting of it.

Truly, all that matters to you in Hell is slagging off people you are jealous of. You get here, and any loyalty you ever had to truth or sanity or sanctity flies out the window, while you find people you think are unfairly lionized, and throw everything in your laughable arsenal at them.

Pa-fucking-thetic.

[ 17. July 2013, 08:21: Message edited by: mousethief ]

Posted by JFH (# 14794) on :

quote:
Originally posted by mousethief:

quote:
Originally posted by JFH:
Awright, it was a jerk move. But so was not getting (or acting as if not getting) that the bit about the English* was pure snark.
Uh, no. I don't follow football. I don't have a fuck's idea who Neymar is. That you think everybody knows what you do about football says something about you. I'm not sure what. Something not very flattering, though.

Indeed, I've failed repeatedly to communicate things in this thread. What I meant to communicate at this point was not frustration that you didn't understand my use of a football simile, but frustration that my subsequent use of your response, especially the reference to the English language, in order to add rather cheap snarkiness and attach it to previous criticism on this thread. It was intended to be unattached to the actual point of your argument, but sheerly snark at what could be seen as an unfortunate use of words. And then I went overboard, which I have already apologised for and remain sorry for.

I feel this original riposte has been constantly misunderstood, which has cast rather unfortunate light on my character - but even more so on my (lack of) skill for communication. (This is the main reason why I'd take back the post you quote, as it's blaming others for my own communicative faults.) I'll try to get better, and I'm sorry for the frustration caused by said malcommunication.

Posted by Sioni Sais (# 5713) on :

quote:
Originally posted by mousethief:

quote:
Originally posted by Evensong:
That's not class.

That's lowering your standards and buckling to mousetheif's silly comment about being a nice Christian.

I thought he communicated via snark very well.
Interesting. You (1) find complaining about blasphemy to be silly, and (2) applaud blasphemy, and (3) excoriate JFH for repenting of it.

Truly, all that matters to you in Hell is slagging off people you are jealous of. You get here, and any loyalty you ever had to truth or sanity or sanctity flies out the window, while you find people you think are unfairly lionized, and throw everything in your laughable arsenal at them.

Pa-fucking-thetic.

Whereas you, mousethief, swing between piety and sanctimony on the one hand and sarcasm and bitterness on the other with no apparent mid point.

Posted by mousethief (# 953) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Sioni Sais:
Whereas you, mousethief, swing between piety and sanctimony on the one hand and sarcasm and bitterness on the other with no apparent mid point.

What should the midpoint be, in Hell?

Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on :

quote:
Originally posted by JFH:

I feel this original riposte has been constantly misunderstood, which has cast rather unfortunate light on my character - but even more so on my (lack of) skill for communication. (This is the main reason why I'd take back the post you quote, as it's blaming others for my own communicative faults.) I'll try to get better, and I'm sorry for the frustration caused by said malcommunication.

Personally, I think your ability to forget other people's behavior in favor of analyzing your own speaks volumes to your character.

The sad thing is you will probably not get the same respect.

Posted by Evensong (# 14696) on :

quote:
Originally posted by mousethief:

quote:
Originally posted by Sioni Sais:
Whereas you, mousethief, swing between piety and sanctimony on the one hand and sarcasm and bitterness on the other with no apparent mid point.
What should the midpoint be, in Hell?

Not pretending to be a sanctimonious twit in Hell when it suits you.

There's no reason JFH can't wave a "get out of jail free card - this is Hell" if you can.

Or myself for that matter.

Posted by BWSmith (# 2981) on :

quote:
Originally posted by mousethief:

quote:
Originally posted by RuthW:
But if you want to call someone a racist, make it BWSmith, and I'll be on board with that. Though perhaps he deserves his own thread?
There's a winner. My God, he doesn't think there are white people who hate black people, and he thinks all racial tension is caused by black people being vindictive (or I suppose you could use "uppity"). What a tool.

Fine, give me my own thread.

Of course there are "white people who hate black people", and vice versa. There are also people on both sides who coexist quite well, and those people encompass the vast majority of people I have encountered daily.

My beef with racial politics is best expressed in a quote from Booker T. Washington:

"There is a class of colored people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs. There is a certain class of race-problem solvers who don't want the patient to get well."

Posted by Arethosemyfeet (# 17047) on :

quote:
Originally posted by BWSmith:
"There is a class of colored people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs. There is a certain class of race-problem solvers who don't want the patient to get well."

Is there any reason to suppose this "class" exists today even if it did a century ago (of which I am by no means convinced). Can you name any members of it? And how will your list differ from a list of those whom the KKK consider "uppity"?

Posted by roybart (# 17357) on :

It's a shock to see this 100+-year-old statement, uttered in an entirely different context over 100 years ago, dragged up here.

I have seen this used before and know that this quotation has become a favorite bit of ammunition among white racial conservatives in the U.S.

I guess its appearance on SofF proves that, with certain topics, "Hell" is indeed Hell.

Posted by Lyda*Rose (# 4544) on :

All respect to Booker T. Washington (may light perpetual shine upon him), but if people of color are still being oppressed, people still have to speak to the problem- with vigor. Mr. Washington believed that if "colored people" -a polite term in his time- worked within the system current at his time and place, the South, and got education in industries with skilled jobs available to African Americans, that eventually, gradually the tide would turn. Frankly, he was afraid of white backlash, and with good reason. He lived in the South and I'm sure personally knew people who had been lynched.

Perhaps his style of civil rights activism was useful for its time. But in the later eras, civil rights would have been very slow in coming and many people would have lived and died without having the rights they now have. And there is no reason that people of today have to put up with any oppressive situations still around.

Posted by RuthW (# 13) on :

Dudley Randall has a nice little poem that seems relevant.

BWSMith citing Booker T. Washington as precedent or justification for his views is right up there with saying "but some of my best friends are black!"

Posted by Net Spinster (# 16058) on :

I think the answer to Booker T. Washington's quote is Martin Luther King's letter from a Birmingham Jail

"You deplore the demonstrations taking place in Birmingham. But your statement, I am sorry to say, fails to express a similar concern for the conditions that brought about the demonstrations. I am sure that none of you would want to rest content with the superficial kind of social analysis that deals merely with effects and does not grapple with underlying causes. It is unfortunate that demonstrations are taking place in Birmingham, but it is even more unfortunate that the city's white power structure left the Negro community with no alternative."

Posted by roybart (# 17357) on :

Regarding the thinking behind those who misuse that quote -- John Oliver, on a recent Daily Show with Jon Stewart, was discussing the Pope's "change of tone" on homosexuality. He pointed out that the dogma is unchanged ("the same hateful doctrine"), even though the tone is now rather nice. He then showed two visuals to illustrate a parallel with racial segregation.

First visual; during the days of segregation -- Two water fountains, side by side. One says "Colored only" the other says "Whites Only."

Second visual, following a "change of tone" -- Two water fountains. One still says "Colored only," but the other says: "Whites Only, but have a nice day." (With a smilie face.)

Posted by mousethief (# 953) on :

quote:
Originally posted by roybart:
It's a shock to see this 100+-year-old statement, uttered in an entirely different context over 100 years ago, dragged up here.

That would be because you're not familiar with BWRacist.

Posted by BWSmith (# 2981) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Arethosemyfeet:
Is there any reason to suppose this "class" exists today even if it did a century ago (of which I am by no means convinced). Can you name any members of it?

Yes there is, and yes I can.

quote:
Originally posted by Arethosemyfeet:
And how will your list differ from a list of those whom the KKK consider "uppity"?

Dunno. Are you calling me a Klan member?

Posted by BWSmith (# 2981) on :

quote:
Originally posted by roybart:
It's a shock to see this 100+-year-old statement, uttered in an entirely different context over 100 years ago, dragged up here.

The context is not different.

quote:
Originally posted by roybart:
I have seen this used before and know that this quotation has become a favorite bit of ammunition among white racial conservatives in the U.S.

Calling me a racist?

quote:
Originally posted by roybart:
I guess its appearance on SofF proves that, with certain topics, "Hell" is indeed Hell.

Hell is always a group effort. Your contribution is appreciated.

Posted by BWSmith (# 2981) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Lyda*Rose:
All respect to Booker T. Washington (may light perpetual shine upon him), but if people of color are still being oppressed, people still have to speak to the problem- with vigor.

Mr. Washington believed that if "colored people" -a polite term in his time- worked within the system current at his time and place, the South, and got education in industries with skilled jobs available to African Americans, that eventually, gradually the tide would turn. Frankly, he was afraid of white backlash, and with good reason. He lived in the South and I'm sure personally knew people who had been lynched.

Perhaps his style of civil rights activism was useful for its time. But in the later eras, civil rights would have been very slow in coming and many people would have lived and died without having the rights they now have. And there is no reason that people of today have to put up with any oppressive situations still around.

Agree totally! Thank you for the respectful post.

Posted by BWSmith (# 2981) on :

quote:
Originally posted by RuthW:
BWSmith citing Booker T. Washington as precedent or justification for his views is right up there with saying "but some of my best friends are black!"

If you can't argue like a man, bark like a dog.

(Sorry Ruth, I didn't bring my tennis ball.)

Posted by BWSmith (# 2981) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Net Spinster:
"...it is even more unfortunate that the city's white power structure left the Negro community with no alternative."

A white power structure with a black president?

Posted by BWSmith (# 2981) on :

quote:
Originally posted by roybart:
... the Pope ...

Comparing me to the Pope? (I get that a lot.) Many thanks!

Posted by lilBuddha (# 14333) on :

quote:
Originally posted by BWSmith:

quote:
Originally posted by Net Spinster:
"...it is even more unfortunate that the city's white power structure left the Negro community with no alternative."
A white power structure with a black president?

If you truly believe this one act signifies the end of a white dominated power structure, then you are an idiot even if you are not racist.

Posted by BWSmith (# 2981) on :

quote:
Originally posted by mousethief:
That would be because you're not familiar with BWRacist.

Ah mousethief, I think I represent everyone here in expressing my sympathy for the humble eloquence expressed in your "Even-handedness" Styx thread.

Next time I catch people "piling on" you, I will intercede in your defense.

You're just a tender little guy making his tender little argument. There's no shame in that.

Posted by BWSmith (# 2981) on :

quote:
Originally posted by lilBuddha:

quote:
Originally posted by BWSmith:
A white power structure with a black president?
If you truly believe this one act signifies the end of a white dominated power structure, then you are an idiot even if you are not racist.

Oh whoops, forgot that his mother was white. Never mind...

Posted by lilBuddha (# 14333) on :

quote:
Originally posted by BWSmith:

quote:
Originally posted by lilBuddha:

quote:
Originally posted by BWSmith:
A white power structure with a black president?
If you truly believe this one act signifies the end of a white dominated power structure, then you are an idiot even if you are not racist.
Oh whoops, forgot that his mother was white. Never mind...

Care to spark the gap between at least two brain cells and address the comment?

Posted by roybart (# 17357) on :

quote:
Originally posted by mousethief:

quote:
Originally posted by roybart:
It's a shock to see this 100+-year-old statement, uttered in an entirely different context over 100 years ago, dragged up here.
That would be because you're not familiar with BWRacist.

Another example of one of my mother's favorite maxims, "Live and Learn."

Actually, Mr. Smith's attitude has become more open, more aggressive in the U.S. in recent years. As are his arguments and the underlying anger. (These people are dancing in the aisles at recent Supreme Court decisions that essentially dismantle affirmative action and voting rights laws in states that want to get rid of them.)

It's sad, really.

[ 01. August 2013, 13:37: Message edited by: roybart ]

Posted by BWSmith (# 2981) on :

quote:
Originally posted by lilBuddha:
Care to ... address the comment?

No, because there is no "white power structure".

Race-based preferential treatment has been illegal since the Civil Rights Act.

If you can prove that it exists, take it to court.

Posted by BWSmith (# 2981) on :

quote:
Originally posted by roybart:
Mr. Smith's attitude has become more open, more aggressive in the U.S. in recent years. As are his arguments and the underlying anger.

Well, we have controlled our fear.

Now, we will release our anger. Only our hatred can destroy you.

Posted by Marvin the Martian (# 4360) on :

quote:
Originally posted by BWSmith:
Only our hatred can destroy you.

Destroy whom, exactly?

Posted by BWSmith (# 2981) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Marvin the Martian:

quote:
Originally posted by BWSmith:
Only our hatred can destroy you.
Destroy whom, exactly?

Darth Vader. Or also Darth Maul, or Count Dooku.

In general, whoever the current Sith apprentice happens to be.

(Yes!!! This is my 700th post! Thank you Hell! Woohoo!)

[ 01. August 2013, 14:27: Message edited by: BWSmith ]

Posted by Marvin the Martian (# 4360) on :

Are you even trying to make any sense?

Posted by BWSmith (# 2981) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Marvin the Martian:
Are you even trying to make any sense?

Of course, I'm making perfect sense.

I (and people on my side of the aisle) am being accused of being "aggressive" and "angry" (despite the lack of any supporting evidence) followed by the judgment that my anger is "sad".

In reality, it is the left that lives and dies on anger and aggression. (You can always tell what the left is guilty of by the accusations they hurl at conservatives.)

I can think of no more apt metaphor for the situation than Darth Vader actively coaching Luke Skywalker on "how to destroy him" with anger and hate...

Posted by South Coast Kevin (# 16130) on :

quote:
Originally posted by BWSmith:
In reality, it is the left that lives and dies on anger and aggression. (You can always tell what the left is guilty of by the accusations they hurl at conservatives.)

Is this a more adult version of whoever smelt it, dealt it? [Big Grin]

Posted by mousethief (# 953) on :

Is it shrill in here?

Posted by lilBuddha (# 14333) on :

quote:
Originally posted by BWSmith:

quote:
Originally posted by lilBuddha:
Care to ... address the comment?
No, because there is no "white power structure".

Race-based preferential treatment has been illegal since the Civil Rights Act.

If you can prove that it exists, take it to court.

Wow! Technology is wonderfully simple when someone of your demonstrated limited intellect can manage to use it. Your ignorance is monumental. Truly a testament to the strength of the American safety net when so poorly equipped individual has not starved to death despite its lack of abilities.

Posted by BWSmith (# 2981) on :

quote:
Originally posted by lilBuddha:
Wow! Technology is wonderfully simple when someone of your demonstrated limited intellect can manage to use it. Your ignorance is monumental. Truly a testament to the strength of the American safety net when so poorly equipped individual has not starved to death despite its lack of abilities.

A simple "Your Momma" would have sufficed.

Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on :

[Killing me]

Lauren Green's sockpuppet.

Posted by lilBuddha (# 14333) on :

quote:
Originally posted by BWSmith:

quote:
Originally posted by lilBuddha:
Wow! Technology is wonderfully simple when someone of your demonstrated limited intellect can manage to use it. Your ignorance is monumental. Truly a testament to the strength of the American safety net when so poorly equipped individual has not starved to death despite its lack of abilities.
A simple "Your Momma" would have sufficed.

But even that would stretch your abilities to comprehend.

Posted by lilBuddha (# 14333) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Kelly Alves:

Lauren Green's sockpuppet.

To put it into Star Wars metaphor he so obviously loves, Darth Darth Binks.

Posted by BWSmith (# 2981) on :

quote:
Originally posted by lilBuddha:

quote:
Originally posted by BWSmith:
A simple "Your Momma" would have sufficed.
But even that would stretch your abilities to comprehend.

I comprehended your momma last night. She said it WAS quite a stretch.

Posted by BWSmith (# 2981) on :

quote:
Originally posted by lilBuddha:
To put it into Star Wars metaphor he so obviously loves, Darth Darth Binks.

I see what you did there. Well played. [Overused]

Posted by Rosa Winkel (# 11424) on :

quote:
Originally posted by BWSmith:

quote:
Originally posted by RuthW:
BWSmith citing Booker T. Washington as precedent or justification for his views is right up there with saying "but some of my best friends are black!"
If you can't argue like a man, bark like a dog.

(Sorry Ruth, I didn't bring my tennis ball.)

Does arguing like a man mean spouting ill thought out shite? If so, Ruth can keep her womenly arguments.

[ 01. August 2013, 17:21: Message edited by: Rosa Winkel ]

Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on :

Rosa I have to comment that it took me a while to realize I totally agree with that one.

Posted by BWSmith (# 2981) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Rosa Winkel:
Does arguing like a man mean spouting ill thought out shit? If so, Ruth can keep her womenly arguments.

Rosa Winkel, "if anyone wants to call you a racist, I'll be on board with that. Though perhaps you deserve your own thread?"

(Does this count as well-thought out and 'womenly'?)

Posted by BWSmith (# 2981) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
Lauren Green's sockpuppet.

And you are Huma Abedin's sockpuppet.

Posted by Rosa Winkel (# 11424) on :

quote:
Originally posted by BWSmith:

quote:
Originally posted by Rosa Winkel:
Does arguing like a man mean spouting ill thought out shit? If so, Ruth can keep her womenly arguments.
Rosa Winkel, "if anyone wants to call you a racist, I'll be on board with that. Though perhaps you deserve your own thread?"

(Does this count as well-thought out and 'womenly'?)

Her sex has fuck all to do with her point.

Posted by lilBuddha (# 14333) on :

I do not think RuthW's post was ill-thought. AS to its accuracy, I cannot attest. BWSmith is not prominent enough in my radar to make a conclusion regarding his being a racist, but the post containing the Booker T. Washington quote is ignorant, at best.

Posted by Spiffy (# 5267) on :

quote:
Originally posted by lilBuddha:
I do not think RuthW's post was ill-thought. AS to its accuracy, I cannot attest. BWSmith is not prominent enough in my radar to make a conclusion regarding his being a racist, but the post containing the Booker T. Washington quote is ignorant, at best.

And the 'your mom' attempted insult was juvenile at the least.

I myself am not terribly familiar with the person of BWSmith, but what I've seen I'm not interested in cultivating any more acquaintance because the ignorance has a significant whiff of douchebag-- unnecessary and contributing to the spread of dis-ease.

Posted by BWSmith (# 2981) on :

quote:
Originally posted by lilBuddha:
BWSmith is not prominent enough in my radar to make a conclusion regarding his being a racist, but the post containing the Booker T. Washington quote is ignorant, at best.

(I WAS ignorant to have thought that the quote would go over well in Hell...)

Thanks for the kinder tone - I appreciate the good-natured sparring. (No hard feelings.)

Posted by BWSmith (# 2981) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Spiffy:
I myself am not terribly familiar with the person of BWSmith, but what I've seen I'm not interested in cultivating any more acquaintance because the ignorance has a significant whiff of douchebag...

The person of BWSmith deeply regrets cultivating the whiff of douchbaggery upon your acquaintance and earnestly requests your forgiveness.

This is his first (and hopefully last) trip to Hell. He strives for more agreeable discourse in Kerygmania (and has learned to steer clear of Trayvon threads in Purgatory)... [Smile]

Posted by BWSmith (# 2981) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Rosa Winkel:
Her sex has nothing to do with her point.

I agree. I would have said the same thing were she male.

Anyone who prefers name-calling over discussion is a cynic (and deserves to be treated like Diogenes of Sinope).

Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on :

quote:
Originally posted by BWSmith:

quote:
Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
Lauren Green's sockpuppet.
And you are Huma Abedin's sockpuppet.

OK, you posted on lilbuddha's comment about 15 minutes after I posted mine, so you had to have seen it. It took you that long to come up with that?

And could you unpack it, please? Because surely someone who is as erudite and free from the urge to name-call without pristine clarity of focus can explain how I resemble Huma-forgod'ssake- Abedin. I'm not terribly insulted-- mostly because I have zilch in common with her, good or bad-- but she might start sending you hate mail.

In short-- your mama.

Posted by lilBuddha (# 14333) on :

KA, I began this post by admonishing you for insulting his mother when I realized he may not have one. I do not think BWSmith is a real person, but rather 3 monkeys.

Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on :

"Page could not be effin' found."

Way to go, LilB! [Overused]

Posted by BWSmith (# 2981) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Kelly Alves:

quote:
Originally posted by BWSmith:

quote:
Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
Lauren Green's sockpuppet.
And you are Huma Abedin's sockpuppet.
OK, you posted on lilbuddha's comment about 15 minutes after I posted mine, so you had to have seen it. It took you that long to come up with that?

Sorry, didn't know I was being timed. I'll try to do better.

quote:
Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
And could you unpack it, please?

Sure, you're going out of your way to defend a Weiner.

quote:
Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
In short-- your mama.

Nice! And your mama is fat. VERY fat.

Posted by lilBuddha (# 14333) on :

Oh they are sooooo cute when they are first learning to insult battle, aren't they, Kelly?
(To BWSmith)
Awwww, who's the cutest, little fluffy wuffy insulter? You are! Yes, you are, yes you are!

Posted by BWSmith (# 2981) on :

Like I said earlier, "Thanks for the kinder tone - I appreciate the good-natured sparring. (No hard feelings.)"

Can we wind this down?

Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on :

quote:
Originally posted by BWSmith:
Like I said earlier, "Thanks for the kinder tone - I appreciate the good-natured sparring. (No hard feelings.)"

Can we wind this down?

This is Hell. You landed here of your own volition.

Deal.

Posted by Arethosemyfeet (# 17047) on :

quote:
Originally posted by BWSmith:
Like I said earlier, "Thanks for the kinder tone - I appreciate the good-natured sparring. (No hard feelings.)"

Can we wind this down?

I think you'll have to kiss the horns first...

Posted by RuthW (# 13) on :

quote:
Originally posted by BWSmith:

quote:
Originally posted by RuthW:
BWSmith citing Booker T. Washington as precedent or justification for his views is right up there with saying "but some of my best friends are black!"
If you can't argue like a man, bark like a dog.

(Sorry Ruth, I didn't bring my tennis ball.)

So sad that you don't realize that you're the bitch. Oh well.

Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on :

quote:
Originally posted by BWSmith:

quote:
Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
In short-- your mama.
Nice! And your mama is fat. VERY fat.

She is reading over my shoulder, She just grinned evilly and asked if I wanted her to sit on your head. She offered to eat an entire bowl of sauerkraut ahead of time.

My mom can be really, really cool sometimes.

[ 03. August 2013, 02:59: Message edited by: Kelly Alves ]

Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on :

quote:
Originally posted by BWSmith:
Sure, you're going out of your way to defend a Weiner.

(sigh-- I am gonna hate myself for this one, but it's just too rich...)

This one stuck in my head because I could not figure out what the hell you were talking about, since my sole purpose in joining this particular leg of the thread was to laugh at what an idiot you clearly are. Then it occurred to me-- is he talking about Mousethief?

[Killing me]

Hey, Mousethief! Smith thinks I'm going out of my way to defend you!

[Killing me]

Yeah, because I am so notorious for kissing mouse ass, yep, that's me.

(That's not to say I don't love MT like a brother--in fact, if he was in the room right now, I would be high-fiving him over this one.)

Posted by balaam (# 4543) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
Yeah, because I am so notorious for kissing mouse ass,

Why be content with mouse ass when there's ass ass?

Posted by mousethief (# 953) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
Then it occurred to me-- is he talking about Mousethief? ... Hey, Mousethief! Smith thinks I'm going out of my way to defend you!

I took it to mean you were defending Anthony Weiner. There is no connection between me and Anthony Weiner. For one thing, I have never taken a picture of my Mini Me (or in my case, Micro Me).

quote:
Yeah, because I am so notorious for kissing mouse ass, yep, that's me.

I have met Kelly IRL before, and I can guarantee that her lips have never been anywhere near my patoot.

quote:
(That's not to say I don't love MT like a brother--in fact, if he was in the room right now, I would be high-fiving him over this one.)

And I'd happily make you a MT Cooler.

quote:
Originally posted by balaam:

quote:
Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
Yeah, because I am so notorious for kissing mouse ass,
Why be content with mouse ass when there's ass ass?

Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on :

quote:
Originally posted by mousethief:

quote:
Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
Then it occurred to me-- is he talking about Mousethief? ... Hey, Mousethief! Smith thinks I'm going out of my way to defend you!
I took it to mean you were defending Anthony Weiner. There is no connection between me and Anthony Weiner. For one thing, I have never taken a picture of my Mini Me (or in my case, Micro Me).

A sad loss to the internet world , MT. [Frown]

And for the record-- I can't remember saying a single damn word about Weiner, good or bad, at least on the Ship. So still in the land of WTF.

Posted by mousethief (# 953) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Kelly Alves:

quote:
Originally posted by mousethief:
I have never taken a picture of my Mini Me (or in my case, Micro Me).

A sad loss to the internet world , MT.

With all the problems the internet world has, I'd say this one is tiny.

quote:
And for the record-- I can't remember saying a single damn word about Weiner, good or bad, at least on the Ship. So still in the land of WTF.

We're talking about BWRacist here. WTF is sometimes the only rational response.

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