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Posted by Trudy Scrumptious (# 5647) on :
 
When you have a question that doesn't fit neatly into any other Ship topic, but you really want Shipmates' input on it, this is the thread to do that on. Last year's general inquiry thread has been banished to Limbo.

Ask away!
 
Posted by Ian Climacus (# 944) on :
 
I will soon be in the US, assuming Trump lets me in.

I am brushing up on my tip mentality, it being not prevalent here; but one thing I am slightly concerned about it me having enough low denomination notes to go around. I tend to use card for everything.

Can I go to a bank on my first day and ask for $50 or $100 in $5s and $1s? Do I use an ATM and then break every note I can at a local convenience store? What tips have you found helpful to have tip money?
 
Posted by Brenda Clough (# 18061) on :
 
You do know that it is accepted practice to add the tip money to the credit card bill? I don't know if they have it in Europe, but in the US the credit card slip has a place for you to write in the amount you are going to pay, a second line for the tip, and then a third line for the grand total to be charged to your card. There's a longer fourth line beneath all this, for your signature.

If you want to leave a tip in cash I would stick to paper money and not worry about coins. Fifteen to twenty percent is the going rate. The last thing you want in your life is a hundred dollars in ones; that's a fat wad of cash. It's not difficult to break bigger bills; get your $100 in three twenties (= $60) four fives ( =$20) and twenty ones.

[ 10. January 2018, 00:02: Message edited by: Brenda Clough ]
 
Posted by Uncle Pete (# 10422) on :
 
If you leave a tip in cash it is more likely your server will get the larger part of it; if you use a credit card, not only will the owner of the restaurant get the lion's share, but your credit card balance will increase and then (unless you pay it off monthly) be charged the increasingly large interest rate on the higher balance. FWIW I do my best not to use my credit card to pay for meals. Debit card or cash, all the way.
 
Posted by Brenda Clough (# 18061) on :
 
OTOH, if you are not spending a great deal of time here, exchanging money can be entirely evaded with plastic. We went ti Iceland for three days. I never saw a unit of Icelandic money, and am still not sure what it is -- the kroner? We put everything on plastic. It's tons easier.

Be warned that in the US we by and large do not have the handy devices that allow you to wave your cell phone over them and instantly transfer money from your bank account to the restaurant. I am tell these are standard in Asia. Although many stores/restaurants have the chip (allowing you to insert your card into a slot) may don't and you will still need to swipe the magnetic strip on the back of your card.
 
Posted by Leorning Cniht (# 17564) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ian Climacus:
but one thing I am slightly concerned about it me having enough low denomination notes to go around. I tend to use card for everything.

Cards are pretty common in the US these days. About the only places I regularly spend cash these days are the canteen at work and the bar, and both of those places will take cards (it's just that cash is faster).

US ATMs almost uniformly in my experience hand out $20s and nothing else. Buying something for a few bucks with a $20 is completely normal. (Yes, there are ATMs that carry other denominations - there's one in the downtown branch of my bank that has singles - but they're not that common.)

Usually if you pay for a service in $20s, you'll get change including the kind of notes that the server is hoping to get back as a tip [Big Grin]

As Brenda noted, change is almost completely worthless in the US. $1 coins exist, but you're unlikely to be given any in change. 25 cents is the largest coin you're likely to encounter. Don't leave change as a tip, but rounding up bill+tip to whole dollars and leaving that is OK.

You're going to want to tip 15-20 percent for a restaurant meal. A buck a drink is normal in a regular bar; more if it's a fancy place. 15% is about the going rate for taxi/limo drivers.

[ 10. January 2018, 00:37: Message edited by: Leorning Cniht ]
 
Posted by Ian Climacus (# 944) on :
 
Thank you all; exceptionally helpful, and puts my mind at rest. I was not sure if tips could be given by card [and Pete expresses some of my concern about who gets them!], but that would make it easier. Luckily I have a fee-free (even OS) debit card.

Now to get in the mindset of tipping. Coming from a non-tipping culture, it is so easy to just forget.

My sincerest thanks again.
 
Posted by georgiaboy (# 11294) on :
 
Also on the subject of restaurant tipping:

You will find very few -- almost no -- restaurants that include 'service' in the bill. (Which I found quite common in Europe).
The few which do so are found mostly in NYC, Chicago & California.
 
Posted by Brenda Clough (# 18061) on :
 
Always glance over your bill to be sure they haven't already added 'service' in. This often happens if it's a large party. Also it's worth checking if the bill is correct, and (if you hand the server your credit card) that you're getting the correct card back again. All those dark-gray Visa cards, very similar in a dark restaurant.

If you're traveling, it's worth phoning your credit card before you leave, and telling that you're going to Georgia or wherever it is. (Use the customer service # on the back of the card.) This prevents them from tagging the unusual charge as a stolen-card charge, and freezing your card out. If your card is tied to your cell phone you might get a text or automated call, asking you to confirm that it was you who just charged $200 in Atlanta. But if you don't have a cell, or you fail to reply to the text, they could pull the plug on your card and you'd be stranded without it.
 
Posted by Lots of Yay (# 2790) on :
 
Many of the banks allow you to do that online. I know NAB and ING both have functions on their apps to tell them that you’re going overseas, which countries and which dates you’ll be away. Although I must say the ING people are very friendly when I call to tell them about my travels and always wish me a good trip.

What I found annoying in the US was how difficult it was to find an ATM that would give me money. My cards generally work everywhere... except there. I also dazzled the staff at one shop by showing them that their credit card machine had tap and go functionality. That was a few years ago now but fairly sure I could only use contactless payment at that one shop. Everywhere else wanted signatures. I had never ever used a signature with my visa debit card before that.
 
Posted by simontoad (# 18096) on :
 
Good on you Ian. Enjoy the trip. I almost never tip in Australia (although I did yesterday after 4 hours in the pub getting larger than standard whiskies). I tipped everywhere in the States - its necessary for those poor bastards in the service industries. We used the credit card to pay for the meal and left cash on the table. I'd also give people who took our bags to the room a tip, although if you are staying in mid-range Holiday Inn type places, you lug your own bags. For random services like that I'd give what I had, and hope it was a tenner.

Ordinary thing that freaked me out the most: No kettles in hotel rooms for making hot drinks. No kettles anywhere in fact. We tried to buy one so my MIL could have her powdered coffee drink fix.

One question to USA people: Is it considered appropriate politically to lower your tip below the 10% mark for bad or below-par service? Obviously, from a rich leftie perspective, but I'd also especially like to hear from someone who relies on tips, or did when younger.

Also if you stay at a mid-range Holiday Inn place, should you tip room staff and reception? Maybe not for a night, but what if that was your base for a week?
 
Posted by simontoad (# 18096) on :
 
Ian, many petrol stations in the US have pay at the pump. That's their preferred method I think. But the pump wouldn't take my NAB visa. You just have to go inside and pay there. Don't tear your metaphorical hair out and be all stressed like I was the first time [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Brenda Clough (# 18061) on :
 
I do not believe one tips the reception person at a middling hotel, but you could leave a tip in the room for the chambermaid, who will surely be able to use it.
If you get bad service in a restaurant, see if you can determine who's to blame. Your waiter may have been panting to bring you your food, but the kitchen had fallen off the sled about cooking it. In nearly all cases it's worth complaining to the management instead.
 
Posted by Golden Key (# 1468) on :
 
Re kettles:

I'm surprised that there weren't any. There's usually *something*--I'm used to a glass carafe and a special hotplate. Some places provide microwaves, so you could heat water there.

You might look at a drugstore or department store for a "hot pot" or electric kettle. (Drugstores like Walgreen's or CVS.) Be mindful of whether it actually has an off switch, or if you have to unplug it to turn it off. (May sound obvious, but people don't always notice that sort of thing.)

You might also look for an immersion heater. Basically, pieces of metal attached to a cord and plug. You put the metal end directly into the liquid, and plug in the cord. That heats up the liquid. I've never seen one with any kind of switch, so you would have to unplug it *and* place the metal end on something non-flammable to cool.

You could also check with the front desk. They might have a kettle to lend or rent.

FWIW.
 
Posted by simontoad (# 18096) on :
 
we couldn't find any kettles at all in places like Walmart but I don't think we thought to look in Drugstores. That's one of the areas we differ I think. Drugstores mean Chemists and to us that means medication, perfume, health supplements, bandages and small bags of lollies for diabetics. The other possibility is that we just didn't have the eyes to see kettles because they were called something else or put in an area where we don't think to look. We will be back in California around Thanksgiving, so I think we will go explore a drug store. My wife likes to post pictures of stuff she finds weird or funny in shops on her facebook page. I think there is a Walgreens in Sutter Creek. It rings a bell. I think its logo is cursive script on a slant...

Thanks for answering my queries re tips too guys. If you give a stuff (and I do) it can be a bit of a minefield.
 
Posted by Leorning Cniht (# 17564) on :
 
Target stock kettles. They'd be the first place I would look.
 
Posted by Gill H (# 68) on :
 
Re tipping for housekeeping - it is worth taking some envelopes to put the tip in and writing ‘for housekeeping’ on them. If you just leave money lying around, they may just think it is your loose change.

Kettles in rooms are rare in much of continental Europe too. Coffee makers are becoming more common though.
 
Posted by Gill H (# 68) on :
 
Bear in mind that to many in the US, a kettle is the old fashioned metal thing you put on a stove. The electric kettle is not ubiquitous in people’s homes as it is in the UK.

I have friends who take a travel kettle with them.

As for tipping - on the other message board I frequent, that is the equivalent of a Dead Horse! It gets very heated. I would say, if there is a problem, bring it up politely with the manager and give them a chance to sort it. If the service is really bad, let them know why your tip reflects that, otherwise they will just think you are another foreigner who doesn’t understand tipping. But I have to say, I have never had bad service.

Things to bear in mind (from the perspective of a UK visitor, I can’t speak for Oz):

If you tend to order starter and main course at the outset, you may find they bring the main before you finish the starter. This is due to cultural differences. To avoid it you can either ask for a break between courses when you order, or just order one course at a time.

Incidentally, appetisers = starter and entree = main course, not starter as it would be in France.

The other cultural difference is clearing plates. I have seen so many Brits complain about rude service in the US because the server cleared their dirty plate before others in the party finished eating. But this is good service in the US, they don’t want you sitting looking at a dirty plate.

Also you may find the server puts the check (bill) on the table before you have finished eating. Again, Brits may feel they are rushing you to finish and pay. Nope - it just means you don’t have to flag someone down when you finish.

[ 11. January 2018, 05:33: Message edited by: Gill H ]
 
Posted by Ian Climacus (# 944) on :
 
You people are wonderful! [Overused]

Thank you all so much.
 
Posted by balaam (# 4543) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Gill H:
Bear in mind that to many in the US, a kettle is the old fashioned metal thing you put on a stove. The electric kettle is not ubiquitous in people’s homes as it is in the UK.

Bear in mind that some US electric kettles are set not to come to the sort of rolling boil that is required to make a decent pot of tea. In Northern states nipping into Canada for a kettle is not unknown. So that is not a bad thing.
 
Posted by jedijudy (# 333) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Leorning Cniht:
Target stock kettles. They'd be the first place I would look.

Also, Bed, Bath and Beyond where I got mine. Mine also comes to a rolling boil for about five seconds or so. Good for making tea!

It used to be when you would have very bad service at a restaurant, you would leave a penny. That would let the server know that you really were displeased. I haven't heard of folks doing that for a while, however. Conversely, if you have outstanding service, you would leave a good tip with a penny added. Again, I haven't heard of folks doing this for a while, but is probably something servers would be aware of!

I'm showing my age, aren't I?
 
Posted by Brenda Clough (# 18061) on :
 
Unless you have vast luggage it's a bore to carry a kettle with you. I like the notion of an immersion heater, but even with that be sure they'll work with the local plugs/wattage. (There are jacks you can buy so that you can power your coffee machine -from the port in your computer.- If you plug your computer in to charge up then it works great.) As long as your hotel isn't of the most economy class, I'd ask at the desk -- they'll lend you one. Most hotel rooms now have a coffee setup en suite.
 
Posted by Leorning Cniht (# 17564) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Brenda Clough:
Unless you have vast luggage it's a bore to carry a kettle with you. I like the notion of an immersion heater, but even with that be sure they'll work with the local plugs/wattage. (There are jacks you can buy so that you can power your coffee machine -from the port in your computer.- If you plug your computer in to charge up then it works great.) As long as your hotel isn't of the most economy class, I'd ask at the desk -- they'll lend you one. Most hotel rooms now have a coffee setup en suite.

Electric coffee pots do not typically boil the water, so aren't suitable for making tea.

Standard computer USB ports provide up to 0.5A at 5V, which is a mighty 2.5W. The specific heat capacity of water is 4.184 J /g /K. At 2.5W, and assuming perfect insulation (!) it would take 8.5 hours to raise the temperature of an 8 oz mug of water from room temperature to 100 degrees C. A standard 1.5 kW US electric kettle will accomplish the task in 50 seconds.

Or there's always the microwave (many hotel rooms have a microwave), but it's a little tricky to judge when the water has reached boiling point in a microwave (although dropping a teabag in superheated water is always amusing).

[ 11. January 2018, 14:18: Message edited by: Leorning Cniht ]
 
Posted by no prophet's flag is set so... (# 15560) on :
 
There's probably a kettle and tea thread in here somewhere. Having shorted out a hotel wing with an immersion heater, I have 800 ml dual voltage kettle, you can get them down to about 500 ml. I take it everywhere. Hotel rooms like to have little coffee makers in them, which make hot water but leave it under-cooked for tea. I also hold that there are two drinks: tea and tea bag, which is another story (I have been known to take my own water for tea with me on road trips)
 
Posted by Moo (# 107) on :
 
Getting back to the money issue, you will need coins if you do your own laundry. Most laundromats have money-change machines which will change a $1 bill. Some will change a $5.

Moo
 
Posted by Bishops Finger (# 5430) on :
 
Just supposing (yes, I know....if only) Hillary Clinton had become President of the USA. What title would have been given to her husband, Bill?

'First Man' sounds a bit odd, and 'First Gentleman' may be, er, inappropriate. 'First Husband' sounds rather unfortunate.....

'First Lady', OTOH, just suited Michelle Obama down to the ground. Not sure about poor Melancholia - 'First Prisoner', perhaps?

IJ
 
Posted by Pigwidgeon (# 10192) on :
 
Bill Clinton said he wanted to be the First Laddy.
 
Posted by John Holding (# 158) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by balaam:
quote:
Originally posted by Gill H:
Bear in mind that to many in the US, a kettle is the old fashioned metal thing you put on a stove. The electric kettle is not ubiquitous in people’s homes as it is in the UK.

Bear in mind that some US electric kettles are set not to come to the sort of rolling boil that is required to make a decent pot of tea. In Northern states nipping into Canada for a kettle is not unknown. So that is not a bad thing.
Nipping into Canada is always a good thing.

John
 
Posted by Barnabas Aus (# 15869) on :
 
Lots of Yay wrote
quote:
Many of the banks allow you to do that online. I know NAB and ING both have functions on their apps to tell them that you’re going overseas, which countries and which dates you’ll be away. Although I must say the ING people are very friendly when I call to tell them about my travels and always wish me a good trip.

Double-check on this process. We did notify NAB of our travel intentions, but when we made a couple of big purchases in the first day or two of our trip, the card was flagged and we were left embarrassed at the check-in desk of a five-star hotel when the card was declined. It took a large chunk of my roaming credit on the phone to get it sorted.
 
Posted by simontoad (# 18096) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Leorning Cniht:
quote:
Originally posted by Brenda Clough:
Unless you have vast luggage it's a bore to carry a kettle with you. I like the notion of an immersion heater, but even with that be sure they'll work with the local plugs/wattage. (There are jacks you can buy so that you can power your coffee machine -from the port in your computer.- If you plug your computer in to charge up then it works great.) As long as your hotel isn't of the most economy class, I'd ask at the desk -- they'll lend you one. Most hotel rooms now have a coffee setup en suite.

Electric coffee pots do not typically boil the water, so aren't suitable for making tea.

Standard computer USB ports provide up to 0.5A at 5V, which is a mighty 2.5W. The specific heat capacity of water is 4.184 J /g /K. At 2.5W, and assuming perfect insulation (!) it would take 8.5 hours to raise the temperature of an 8 oz mug of water from room temperature to 100 degrees C. A standard 1.5 kW US electric kettle will accomplish the task in 50 seconds.

Or there's always the microwave (many hotel rooms have a microwave), but it's a little tricky to judge when the water has reached boiling point in a microwave (although dropping a teabag in superheated water is always amusing).

This is an amazing post. Truly wonderful. I knew a fellow who was absolutely fanatical about tea. He would print this post out and keep it in his wallet, I'm sure.
[Overused]
 
Posted by Golden Key (# 1468) on :
 
If I may ask, what is the advantage of bringing water for tea to a rolling boil?

Thx.
 
Posted by Golden Key (# 1468) on :
 
BF--

I've heard "First Gentleman" most often. I like it--it's the exact counterpart of First Lady.
 
Posted by balaam (# 4543) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Golden Key:
If I may ask, what is the advantage of bringing water for tea to a rolling boil?

Thx.

Boiling water hitting the tea releases tannins that would otherwise not be released. More flavour = better tea.
 
Posted by balaam (# 4543) on :
 
Additional re: tea,

On a kettle that will not reach a rolling boil operate it with the lid open, that should work.
 
Posted by Gracious rebel (# 3523) on :
 
I have taken a dual voltage travel kettle to the USA before (knowing about the lack of kettles in rooms) but we found it frustrating to use because it took so long to come to the boil (due to 110V system in the USA compared with 240V at home). We also had a thermos flask with us, so we came up with an inventive solution to brew an early morning cuppa in reasonable time ... the night before we would boil the kettle (when we weren't in a rush) and put the boiling water in the thermos overnight. The following morning, the already hot water could be reboiled in the kettle in a short time, and hey presto tea could be made on waking without waiting too long.

More recent trips to the US have mostly involved giving up on the idea of trying to drink tea, and just switching to coffee only for the duration of the holiday. Even the cheapest motel chains such as Motel 6 will have coffee available in the lobby, if not in your room. Also ice machines ... something I have never seen in the UK.
 
Posted by Bishops Finger (# 5430) on :
 
@Golden Key - yes, 'First Gentleman' sounds OK.

My rather uncharitable thought was that Mr. Clinton rather spoiled his presidency at one point by not behaving in a gentlemanly fashion...

IJ
 
Posted by bib (# 13074) on :
 
Re tipping: Are there any services in the US for which one doesn't have to tip? Why do I have to tip, particularly if the service is bad or non existent and what will happen if I don't tip?
 
Posted by Brenda Clough (# 18061) on :
 
Probably nothing. As far as I know, you do not tip mailmen, the staff at gyms or pools, librarians, staff in retail stores (bookshops, clothing stores, shoe shops, etc.).
 
Posted by lilBuddha (# 14333) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bib:
Re tipping: Are there any services in the US for which one doesn't have to tip?

All of them. Tipping is expected in some places, but not required.
quote:

Why do I have to tip, particularly if the service is bad or non existent

Unlike the civilised world, wait-staff in America are paid very poorly in the expectation the customers will tip and make the difference. Essentially, the customer is directly paying part of the salary of their wait-staff. By not paying, you are also cheating their assistants as they share tip money, so it is not just the server. Also, the server might not be responsible for your bad service, they cannot control the kitchen.
quote:

and what will happen if I don't tip?

Nothing. Unless you go back and the staff remember you.
 
Posted by cliffdweller (# 13338) on :
 
I really wouldn't go to a sit-down restaurant and not tip at least 15% unless the waitstaff did something truly dreadful that was clearly their fault-- not the management (for understaffing) or kitchen staff (getting food out late). It's just not done, for reasons mentioned above.

But it's considered OK to not tip in self-serve cafeteria style places-- the type where you order stand in line to place your order to a cashier, including coffee places like Starbucks. There's usually a "tip jar" where it's nice to throw a dollar or two, but it's not essential. This is the one exception to the "no change" rule-- if you've got some quarters that are weighing you down, it's OK to throw some in the tip jar, or the change you get back if paying cash. But no pennies. That's just rude.

Sorry about the kettles! Being married to a Canadian, I know how beloved they are. But us Americans-- we're just not that into tea. We're much more fanatical about our coffee-- you'll find heated debates about pour-over vs French press, Starbucks vs. Peets, much more than any concern about getting water to boil for tea. You'll always find a coffee pot in every hotel room and a microwave in most so if you can find a way to make that work, it's probably your best option.
 
Posted by simontoad (# 18096) on :
 
Never heard of Peets. Starbucks, I have heard of. I've only ever had one drink there that I remember. I ordered a small flat white. I was very unhappy. My belief is that the staff forgot to put coffee in the drink.

Espressos can be found in the US, and I frankly don't care about the quality of the brew, as long as I get my hit. I frequently get cheap espressos out of coffee machines here in Australia.

Do the Americans have any tips for locating an espresso? Are they available in service station coffee machines for instance? Is there maybe a coffee brand sticker on windows or awnings that would signify espressos?

Coffee is quite important to me. I am ashamed to say that if I don't have coffee early, I will be grumpy and probably rude. Espresso is not vital. I will happily drink strong brewed coffee with a little milk, and even instant coffee.
 
Posted by Ohher (# 18607) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cliffdweller:
But us Americans-- we're just not that into tea.

Speak for yourself, and/or your region of the country. In New England, there are still many tea drinkers (I am one), though coffee is also common. We have kettles. We have actual teapots, with internal holes at the bases of spouts for aerating hot tea as it's poured. Grocery stores here still stock loose tea (though the number & varieties of brands and types are shrinking. I've had to order some favorites online of late).
 
Posted by Ian Climacus (# 944) on :
 
My friend, a fellow worshipper of the demon brew, dragged me to Peet's on numerous occasions. The look of horror when my other friend suggested Starbucks had to be seen. I quite liked Peets: good coffee.

Thanks for the continued tips (ha!) all.

I'm staying at 2 B&Bs: may I ask the rules for tipping there?
 
Posted by Ohher (# 18607) on :
 
Well, here's my query: Do any shipmates have experience with wearing tabi-style shoes?

As I age, I've developed a bunion and a hammer toe, and wondered if the split-toe tabi shoes from Japan might be helpful in preventing further damage.
 
Posted by Ohher (# 18607) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ian Climacus:
My friend, a fellow worshipper of the demon brew, dragged me to Peet's on numerous occasions. The look of horror when my other friend suggested Starbucks had to be seen. I quite liked Peets: good coffee.

Thanks for the continued tips (ha!) all.

I'm staying at 2 B&Bs: may I ask the rules for tipping there?

Starbucks is the spawn of Satan. Must be; they burn the stuff in the fires of hell before they brew it. Awful, awful stuff. Stick with Peet's.

[ 13. January 2018, 02:03: Message edited by: Ohher ]
 
Posted by Golden Key (# 1468) on :
 
BF--

quote:
Originally posted by Bishops Finger:
@Golden Key - yes, 'First Gentleman' sounds OK.

My rather uncharitable thought was that Mr. Clinton rather spoiled his presidency at one point by not behaving in a gentlemanly fashion...

IJ

That part aside: at his best, he'd be an excellent First Gentleman. E.g., he'd have great fun arranging who would sit next to each other at state dinners. Much mischief. [Biased] Unfortunately, he hasn't been at his best for a long time.

If Hillary had become president, I figured there should be a rule that he couldn't meet with a woman alone, unless the door was open. He's an admitted sex addict. Or he could go into a cloistered monastery for several years.
 
Posted by Golden Key (# 1468) on :
 
Ohher--

quote:
Originally posted by Ohher:
Well, here's my query: Do any shipmates have experience with wearing tabi-style shoes?

As I age, I've developed a bunion and a hammer toe, and wondered if the split-toe tabi shoes from Japan might be helpful in preventing further damage.

I think I tried some, long ago. Big toe separate from the others? That's like flip-flops. If you try *those*, you might get an idea.

Tabi *socks* felt weird to me.

Good luck!
 
Posted by lilBuddha (# 14333) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ian Climacus:

I'm staying at 2 B&Bs: may I ask the rules for tipping there?

The general rule of thumb I have heard and use is that if the owners are also the staff, then no tip. If they employ others as staff, tip housekeeping ~$5 per day and meal service the standard 20%.
 
Posted by Rossweisse (# 2349) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ohher:
Well, here's my query: Do any shipmates have experience with wearing tabi-style shoes?...

Yes, in performances of "Madame Butterfly."

They're like flip-flops. Since I've never cared for flip-flops, I don't know how helpful I can be to you, but there you have it.
 
Posted by cliffdweller (# 13338) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Golden Key:
Ohher--

quote:
Originally posted by Ohher:
Well, here's my query: Do any shipmates have experience with wearing tabi-style shoes?

As I age, I've developed a bunion and a hammer toe, and wondered if the split-toe tabi shoes from Japan might be helpful in preventing further damage.

I think I tried some, long ago. Big toe separate from the others? That's like flip-flops. If you try *those*, you might get an idea.

Tabi *socks* felt weird to me.

Good luck!

Haven't tried those, but my son who has rather widely spaced toes swears by Vibrams which have all 5 toes separated. He loves them and says his feet actually hurt if he uses regular shoes. They have a similar feel as being barefoot, some runners swear by them.

Word of caution: you MUST get the five-toed socks that go with them and wash them every day or your 5-toe shoes become impossibly stinky. We tried everything-- baking soda, soap & water, lysol-- once they develop the funk there's no getting rid of it. So socks washed every day is a must.
 
Posted by Golden Key (# 1468) on :
 
cliffdweller--

Did you try Borax? IME, good for both odors and stains. There are probably detailed instructions online.

NOTE: It's important to rinse the washed item *very* thoroughly with water, afterwards. Borax can irritate sensitive skin.

FWIW, YMMV.
 
Posted by simontoad (# 18096) on :
 
Ohher, I have a protrusion from the knuckle joint of each big toe that I thought was related to gout but looks like the bunion on the wikkipedia page. My toes don't have a slant though. They don't give me any trouble YET! Not compared to the trouble I had with gout anyway.

In my disability work, people often develop trouble with their feet, and getting the right shoes is very important in helping them with pain management and remedial stuff where appropriate. If you haven't yet consulted a foot person, I recommend making the investment. Specialised footwear can be expensive but you might also be able to pump your foot person for info on what sort of stuff or foot positioning would be most helpful.

One of my clients whose toes fold underneath her feet wears slippers and those sock shoes only - very cheap! She's in a wheelchair so not much rubbing, but hard to match with a party dress [Smile]

[ 13. January 2018, 12:25: Message edited by: simontoad ]
 
Posted by Pigwidgeon (# 10192) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cliffdweller:
...So socks washed every day is a must.

Isn't that the case no matter what type of shoes or socks you wear? (Well, not necessarily washing them every day, but not wearing them a second day without washing.)
 
Posted by lilBuddha (# 14333) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cliffdweller:

Word of caution: you MUST get the five-toed socks that go with them and wash them every day or your 5-toe shoes become impossibly stinky. We tried everything-- baking soda, soap & water, lysol-- once they develop the funk there's no getting rid of it. So socks washed every day is a must.

Multiple pairs of shoes, worn in rotation, are also a factor in reducing odour. Wearing the same pair in consecutive days doesn't allow them to dry and moisture is the friend of the bacteria that produce that lovely aroma.
 
Posted by churchgeek (# 5557) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by simontoad:
Never heard of Peets.

It's a West-Coast chain. I don't think it's made it out of the West much yet. I'm not a coffee drinker, myself, but here in Michigan, there are no Peet's. I lived in California for a while, though, and they had a major presence there.

As a side note, Peet's features in the latest Bruce Cockburn album, since he's moved to San Francisco.
 
Posted by Brenda Clough (# 18061) on :
 
They are now in the DC area. Also, their coffees are in grocery stores.
 
Posted by Ian Climacus (# 944) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by lilBuddha:
quote:
Originally posted by Ian Climacus:

I'm staying at 2 B&Bs: may I ask the rules for tipping there?

The general rule of thumb I have heard and use is that if the owners are also the staff, then no tip. If they employ others as staff, tip housekeeping ~$5 per day and meal service the standard 20%.
That sounds very sensible. Thanks lilBuddha.
 
Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :
 
American shipmates- does UTF stand for something? I sent a Christmas card to an elderly relative who lived in a senior living community in America. It was returned to me today with UTF in pen and a sticker saying "Return to sender. Not deliverable as addressed. Unable to forward" I don't know whether my relative has died, been moved to somewhere that provides more care, or whether I misaddressed it.
 
Posted by balaam (# 4543) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by North East Quine:
American shipmates- does UTF stand for something? I sent a Christmas card to an elderly relative who lived in a senior living community in America. It was returned to me today with UTF in pen and a sticker saying "Return to sender. Not deliverable as addressed. Unable to forward" I don't know whether my relative has died, been moved to somewhere that provides more care, or whether I misaddressed it. [/QB]

I think you answered it yourself.
 
Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :
 
D'uh!!
 
Posted by Brenda Clough (# 18061) on :
 
Double check to be sure you didn't write the address wrong. Then, contact the care home. She may simply have been moved to another floor or another facility. (Sometimes merely putting the wrong room number gets the mailpiece kicked back.) If the family has moved her somewhere else they may have a forwarding address. If she has passed away they almost certainly know that.
 
Posted by Pigwidgeon (# 10192) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Brenda Clough:
Double check to be sure you didn't write the address wrong. Then, contact the care home. She may simply have been moved to another floor or another facility. (Sometimes merely putting the wrong room number gets the mailpiece kicked back.) If the family has moved her somewhere else they may have a forwarding address. If she has passed away they almost certainly know that.

I called a care home to check the address of a friend when a card to her was returned as undeliverable. The woman who answered was very nice and polite, but due to privacy concerns she could not tell me anything. It turns out my friend was still at that facility, but in a different room. (So why didn't the person sorting the mail know that?)
 
Posted by Brenda Clough (# 18061) on :
 
I have no idea how the mail people do this. But a lot of the delivery is now computerized (that little bar code printed by the PO at the bottom of your envelope) so the wrong room number can be an issue.
 
Posted by Pigwidgeon (# 10192) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Brenda Clough:
I have no idea how the mail people do this. But a lot of the delivery is now computerized (that little bar code printed by the PO at the bottom of your envelope) so the wrong room number can be an issue.

I guess it would depend on whether the postal carrier delivers and sorts, or if the mail is delivered to the home where an employee sorts it.

But if the person has changed rooms, or moved elsewhere, or joined the bleedin' choir invisible*, there should be a forwarding order on file. If my card to her was returned unforwardable, what about more important correspondence that didn't reach her?

*Well, I guess there's no forwarding address to there.
 
Posted by Brenda Clough (# 18061) on :
 
I deal with the returned mail here at my office. I would judge that a goodly percentage of it, about ten percent, is perfectly correctly addressed and sent to a recipient who is there and has not moved. Nevertheless the post office drops the ball and tells me they're not there. I phone, and the recipient tells me that no, their address is the same and they've been there since 1979. There is nothing to do at that point but to blame the postal people.
 
Posted by Pigwidgeon (# 10192) on :
 
I've exchanged Christmas cards for many years with a woman who attended a church where I used to work and then moved across the country. She had mentioned in previous years that her health was failing (cancer), and in her Christmas note in 2016 she said that it was probably her last Christmas, and she was o.k. with that -- she knew something better awaited her and her suffering would be over. I sent her an Easter card last year*, not something I normally do, and received a nice note of thanks. This year I sent a Christmas card and did not receive one in return, but that could just mean that she was too ill to respond. My card was not returned "unforwardable." So this morning I Googled obituaries and discovered that her suffering ended in August. I guess my card to her was dumped in the trash either by her facility or by the post office. Rest in peace, Jean. [Votive]

*It's very difficult to find an Easter card that doesn't have (a) Bunnies, or (b) lots of cheerful talk about life.
 
Posted by Brenda Clough (# 18061) on :
 
I wrote an article for a magazine recently, about things to do to make it easier for your survivors after you die. The major stuff (decluttering, your will) we all know about. But it's also useful to have a handy lit of people who ought to be informed when you pass away. People like the Christmas-card list, or the folks you play bridge with, or your online hangout here at SoF.
 
Posted by Pigwidgeon (# 10192) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Brenda Clough:
I wrote an article for a magazine recently, about things to do to make it easier for your survivors after you die. The major stuff (decluttering, your will) we all know about. But it's also useful to have a handy lit of people who ought to be informed when you pass away. People like the Christmas-card list, or the folks you play bridge with, or your online hangout here at SoF.

I've actually done that (hoping it won't be needed for another 20 years!). People at my church will know, but I've listed contact information for my college alumni magazine, etc. Most importantly, I've authorized a Shipmate who is a fellow parishioner to "out" me and notify the Ship.
 
Posted by Brenda Clough (# 18061) on :
 
The internet has made it all more complicated; your various groups, their different passwords, etc.
 
Posted by simontoad (# 18096) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Pigwidgeon:
I called a care home to check the address of a friend when a card to her was returned as undeliverable. The woman who answered was very nice and polite, but due to privacy concerns she could not tell me anything. It turns out my friend was still at that facility, but in a different room. (So why didn't the person sorting the mail know that?)

[Roll Eyes]

Privacy concerns... "It's worse than that they're dead Jim dead Jim dead Jim. It's worse than that they're dead Jim dead Jim dead."

[ 22. January 2018, 20:17: Message edited by: simontoad ]
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
My middle brother lives in Chicago. I am going to make a wall hanging for his birthday next year. Usually I would hang it from a piece of dowelling I don't know if it exists there under that name , but it's a length of round wood that comes in various diameters (think broomstick handle right down to kebab stick size). I want to send the hanging without the pole it's to be hung from (due to postage costs).

My questions are; does it exist there?

Would a place like Wal-Mart sell it?

Huia -postal cheapskate [Razz]
 
Posted by Golden Key (# 1468) on :
 
Huia--

Yes, we have doweling, dowels, dowel rods here. (Various names.)

He can get it at a hardware store or an art store.

ETA: In my experience, it's usually pretty cheap.

[ 26. January 2018, 05:40: Message edited by: Golden Key ]
 
Posted by Sparrow (# 2458) on :
 
I'm having an intermittent problem with my DAB clock radio. I've had it several years and it's never played up before. But now periodically the sound becomes very distorted, voices and music on all stations sound like they're coming from underwater.

Is this likely to be a hardware problem, ie some problem with the speaker, or maybe interference from outside, e.g. a neighbour's broadband or something? I've been trying to work out whether there is any consistency in when it happens but it seems to be any time of day or night, sometimes it is ok for days at a time then it will play up for a few days, then ok again.

Any ideas anyone?
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
Thanks, Golden Key. Good to hear that the terminology is the same, as it simplifies matters from this end.

Huia
 
Posted by LutheranChik (# 9826) on :
 
Facebook question here: I am still listed as administrator for a Facebook page I started for an organization that I’m no longer a part of. I still get notifications for stuff I no longer care about. How do we get my name off the page?
 
Posted by Ian Climacus (# 944) on :
 
Do people still put two spaces after a full stop, or has that gone away in the digital age? I do, and didn't think about it until I saw a tweet on it, suggesting we were Luddites.
 
Posted by Jengie jon (# 273) on :
 
A friend certainly does.

Jengie
 
Posted by M. (# 3291) on :
 
I still do too. But I probably am a Luddite.

M.
 
Posted by Sparrow (# 2458) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ian Climacus:
Do people still put two spaces after a full stop, or has that gone away in the digital age? I do, and didn't think about it until I saw a tweet on it, suggesting we were Luddites.

That is certainly what I was taught to do many years ago in secretarial college! One space after a comma, and two after a full stop, semicolon or colon.

My current version of Word doesn't like it though, and I keep meaning to go into the settings and force it to do what I want. Does anyone know if that is possible?
 
Posted by Curiosity killed ... (# 11770) on :
 
I still put two spaces after a full stop, and so did my daughter, but she is not allowed to while writing her thesis - one space only.
 
Posted by Arethosemyfeet (# 17047) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Sparrow:
I'm having an intermittent problem with my DAB clock radio. I've had it several years and it's never played up before. But now periodically the sound becomes very distorted, voices and music on all stations sound like they're coming from underwater.

Is this likely to be a hardware problem, ie some problem with the speaker, or maybe interference from outside, e.g. a neighbour's broadband or something? I've been trying to work out whether there is any consistency in when it happens but it seems to be any time of day or night, sometimes it is ok for days at a time then it will play up for a few days, then ok again.

Any ideas anyone?

DAB interference is usually stuttering rather than distortion. The underwater-type effect makes me wonder whether the speaker has separate bass and treble speaker cones and the latter is becoming detached occasionally.
 
Posted by Brenda Clough (# 18061) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Sparrow:
quote:
Originally posted by Ian Climacus:
Do people still put two spaces after a full stop, or has that gone away in the digital age? I do, and didn't think about it until I saw a tweet on it, suggesting we were Luddites.

That is certainly what I was taught to do many years ago in secretarial college! One space after a comma, and two after a full stop, semicolon or colon.

My current version of Word doesn't like it though, and I keep meaning to go into the settings and force it to do what I want. Does anyone know if that is possible?

It's easy to fix in the final version. Go through and do a global search and replace, subbing in a single space for all double spaces.
If the thing is going to be published, the magazine/book people will go through and force the house style onto your Word doc anyway.
 
Posted by LutheranChik (# 9826) on :
 
Re tipping below 15 percent for poor service: I have on occasion resorted to my Five Cent Tip of Doom for service so egregiously bad that I wanted to make a point. Tipping five or ten percent may be interpreted as just ignorance on your part; but a nickel on the table sends a pretty clear message. (Although keep in mind that waitstaff have to share their tips; we had one incident where the Five Cent Tip of Doom was averted only by our awesome busboy, who did everything our disinterested waitress should have but didn’t. So we tipped our usual, gave the busboy high praise to the manager, and...um...did the opposite with the waitress.)

We will tip hotel maids a buck or two per night, depending on if we asked them to do a full linen swap or just a tidying- up— if we’re flying we also let them have pocket change we don’t want to deal with at the airport.

In resort areas you’ll see tip jars in odd places, like random retail stores — and we once found one at a roadside produce stand stand near Lake Michigan, with a sign saying “ Our Son’s College Fund” — you’re under no obligation to contribute to these unless so moved.
 
Posted by Sparrow (# 2458) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Brenda Clough:
quote:
Originally posted by Sparrow:
quote:
Originally posted by Ian Climacus:
Do people still put two spaces after a full stop, or has that gone away in the digital age? I do, and didn't think about it until I saw a tweet on it, suggesting we were Luddites.

That is certainly what I was taught to do many years ago in secretarial college! One space after a comma, and two after a full stop, semicolon or colon.

My current version of Word doesn't like it though, and I keep meaning to go into the settings and force it to do what I want. Does anyone know if that is possible?

It's easy to fix in the final version. Go through and do a global search and replace, subbing in a single space for all double spaces.
If the thing is going to be published, the magazine/book people will go through and force the house style onto your Word doc anyway.

Yes I know about that, but I don't want to have to do that every time I type something. I need a permanent fix!
 
Posted by Golden Key (# 1468) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Huia:
Thanks, Golden Key. Good to hear that the terminology is the same, as it simplifies matters from this end.

Good. IME, "dowel" is the most common version.
 
Posted by Gill H (# 68) on :
 
Two spacer here. I just can't break the habit, and I think it looks easier to read anyway.
 
Posted by Cathscats (# 17827) on :
 
I don't want to break the habit!
 
Posted by Nicolemr (# 28) on :
 
Two spacer here too. I think it's much easier to read that way when you have a long paragraph.
 
Posted by Rossweisse (# 2349) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Brenda Clough:
... But it's also useful to have a handy lit of people who ought to be informed when you pass away. People like the Christmas-card list, or the folks you play bridge with, or your online hangout here at SoF.

I sent Christmas cards with letters to my father's list both two years ago (when he was in hospice) and in 2016 (after he died). I need to prepare a list for myself,

And I need to step up the decluttering, lest my children curse me when I'm gone.
 
Posted by Rossweisse (# 2349) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ian Climacus:
Do people still put two spaces after a full stop, or has that gone away in the digital age? I do, and didn't think about it until I saw a tweet on it, suggesting we were Luddites.

No, we're not Luddites. We just have standards.
 
Posted by Amanda B. Reckondwythe (# 5521) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ian Climacus:
Do people still put two spaces after a full stop?

Of course. Civilization has not disappeared completely.

Interestingly, we use Dreamweaver to edit MW reports for publication and to prepare the various MW index pages. Dreamweaver will automatically delete the second space.
 
Posted by aliehs (# 18878) on :
 
A comment about Rossweise's advice concerning decluttering:
I am without family where I live; my cousins [of whom I am now the oldest] all live overseas, but we enjoy good communications, and I have been to see them about 2 years ago. I took the family jewellery and distributed them appropriately, or at least as I wished, and asked about the various bits of family memorabilia that I have here, and who wanted what. To my surprise, no one wanted anything, with one exception, a shepherd's crook .[ This cost me an arm and a leg to send, as I couldn't detach the crook from the handle, so it made a very odd shaped parcel].

So, it is all very well to declutter, but I can't and don't want to chuck stuff out or sell it on EBay, while I can still enjoy it,[and do].
I have threatened my friends that I will leave some smallish antiques and paintings with labels on the back, and that they should come and rescue them once I have gone, but my solicitor is my executor, and I haven't told him about this arrangement.
All monies including funds from the sale of the house are going to charities, but it is the disposal of personal items that challenges me.

Any Ideas?
 
Posted by aliehs (# 18878) on :
 
sorry, I was trying to remember and of course it should have been Roseweisse's comment.

But a rose by any other name would smell as sweet. [Angel]
 
Posted by Golden Key (# 1468) on :
 
Not a lawyer, and I don't know much about wills; but maybe say "any personal belongings not otherwise designated should be given to (charity name)".
 
Posted by Pangolin Guerre (# 18686) on :
 
No - be much more precise than that. Label things as you intend, but catalogue them as to who gets what, and give a copy to your solicitor so that he/she can amend the will accordingly. Alternatively, dispose of items in advance, if that's possible. (That has the great advantage of making your intentions clear and indisputable because you have presented one and all with a fait accompli.)Perform the "What could go wrong?" mind experiment, assuming nothing about people's good behaviour. Similarly the proceeds from the sale of the house. Specify the charities clearly and the precise proportions they are to receive from the proceeds of the sale. Your solicitor should know to do this, but keep him/her up to speed on your intentions.

My mother's will was a masterpiece of clarity and simplicity, and my sister and I agreed on the division of the furniture, jewellery, and art in my mother's presence. Drinks all around.

[ 04. February 2018, 05:42: Message edited by: Pangolin Guerre ]
 
Posted by Golden Key (# 1468) on :
 
Well, it was my way of keeping it as simple as possible.

Certain specific things would be designated for certain recipients--and I'm thinking just a few things (or even 1) for who I pick.

Anything else (other than papers, which should be handled separately) would be given to a charity I would name--one which has a hauling truck. No further sorting needed. A lot of books, and some household stuff.

I don't have family as such--a few estranged folks. So I don't have to go through the fuss of wrangling over who gets what. (Whew!)
 
Posted by Wesley J (# 6075) on :
 
On the Styx thread about Ship mugs, I had enquired about microwavablity of said precious recipients of life-giving fluids.

Having now, as a friend said, finally arrived in the ... 1980s [Big Grin] , and got myself a microwave oven (!), a question:

Can you actually make tea in that machine?

So far, I'm playing around with max setting (800W) and up to 2 mins for reasonably hot water (the bag - yes, I know, sadly no loose leaf tea for me! - is put in later), but I find the reasonability to be rather at the low end of the acceptable.

Any suggestions? (Re-heating a cuppa is ok for me, and truly a nice feature, but this here is about the first brew.)

Thanks. [Smile]

[ 08. February 2018, 09:54: Message edited by: Wesley J ]
 
Posted by Amanda B. Reckondwythe (# 5521) on :
 
I've never put my Ship of Fools mugs in the microwave but I do regularly drink hot coffee from them and wash them in the dishwasher.

I make tea by boiling a cup of water in the microwave (not, admittedly, not Ship of Fools mugs) and then steeping a teabag in the water. But hey, I'm American.
 
Posted by BroJames (# 9636) on :
 
I would have said that for tea ‘reasonably hot’ water won’t do. You need to make sure it’s thorougly boiling. Then take it out of the microwave and add the tea bag promptly, ideally cover (otherwise it will cool too quickly) and allow to brew. Then remove tea bag and add milk etc. if you use it.
 
Posted by Wesley J (# 6075) on :
 
Yep. I love to hear and then pour the 'rolling boil' of the kettle (which is a whistling one on the stove for me)! [Smile]

From what I've read about microwaves, they will not 'boil' your water, but bring it to just below that. I think that must be the sudden tiny bubbly effect for a very reasonably high temperature I've noticed in a water-only SoF mug. For my appliance, that seems to happen at 2 mins 30 secs at max setting. I guess I can live with that; it also means that the mug itself gets quite hot, perhaps a bit more so than when using kettle-boiled water. Bag follows then, milk and sugar later, if desired.

Hm. Though I must say I somehow miss the sound of the boiling kettle and the whistle compared to the so sexy and 'modern' (for me!) miniature-wave device. And I miss putting in the bag before the water. But it does stop when it's done; the whistling stove kettle had me quickly and prematurely de-shower myself more than once! [Big Grin]
[Paranoid]
 
Posted by no prophet's flag is set so... (# 15560) on :
 
The water will boil in the microwave. Having tried this years back. The water will look still but if agitated with boil over. Sometimes explosively.

As an 8-10 cup a day tea drinker not a tea bag drinker, the water should be just still for black teas, about 80°C/180°F for green and yellow teas, just slightly more than green for oolong, slightly less for white.

The price for loose teas is more up front, but you get 225 cups per pound. You have to be careful in tea shops. They hang onto dried out old leaves and charge far too much. I've mail ordered tea for decades.
 
Posted by la vie en rouge (# 10688) on :
 
You can make tea in the microwave but I consider the result highly inferior to using the kettle. Kettles are now widespread in France since tea has become fashionable but this wasn’t always the case and the go-to for many French people was the microwave.

In my experience, it always leaves a layer of foamy scum on the top of the tea.
 
Posted by Amanda B. Reckondwythe (# 5521) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Wesley J:
From what I've read about microwaves, they will not 'boil' your water, but bring it to just below that. <<snip>> I somehow miss the sound of the boiling kettle and the whistle.

Depends on the power of the microwave, I think. Mine brings water to a rolling boil that continues for seconds even after the cup is removed. And old age has robbed me of the ability to hear the tea kettle whistle anymore. [Waterworks]
 
Posted by Bishops Finger (# 5430) on :
 
The microwave is useful for heating up SOUP (in a mug, rather than a pan!) if the Episcopal Stove is taking too long (or I can't bear to wait any longer).

I have been known to boil water, and teabag, in the ping! machine, but yes, it does seem to leave a scum.... [Frown]

IJ
 
Posted by no prophet's flag is set so... (# 15560) on :
 
The scum may be minerals in the water. (I'm known to take my own water on road trips to make tea with, if the water is suspected to be inferior)

Boiling tea in water. Yes, I do this when making chai, though it's 50% fake milk (almond usually), which is lovely on a frigid winter's day. (we're in the mid -30s this week)
 
Posted by Qoheleth. (# 9265) on :
 
What's the most appropriate way to refer in print to those Indian cities that have changed their names in recent years?

quote:
Ms X served as a Mission Partner with the CSI in Madras (Chennai) for 37 years.
The place was Madras all the time that she worked there, becoming Chennai in 1996.
 
Posted by Eutychus (# 3081) on :
 
"Chennai (formerly known as Madras)" is how I, as a translator, would put it if I put the old name at all. Which I would do if my audience was more likely to have heard of Madras than Chennai and I felt they needed educating.
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
And I, as someone who needed educating on this [Hot and Hormonal] would be grateful that you did so.

Huia
 
Posted by Eutychus (# 3081) on :
 
The whole art of being a good translator is pretending you always knew things that you have just learned through what you have just read [Biased]

[ 10. February 2018, 08:12: Message edited by: Eutychus ]
 
Posted by Brenda Clough (# 18061) on :
 
This has come up in the course of writing a story about vampires. As you know from Bram Stoker, one may defend against vampires with the paraphernalia of Catholicism -- crucifixes, holy water, etc.
My question is: Is there a Protestant equivalent? Would reciting the Westminster Confession of Faith be sufficient to repel a vampire, or do you need a real physical artifact? Which would be a problem, since the Reformation cleared out all those relics and crucifixes and stuff.
 
Posted by Amanda B. Reckondwythe (# 5521) on :
 
Protestants still accept the cross (minus the corpus). I suppose if you brandish that, or perhaps the Bible (King James, of course), at a vampire it would put it to flight.
 
Posted by Robert Armin (# 182) on :
 
Read the 39 Articles! That should settle their evil vampire ways.
 
Posted by Nicolemr (# 28) on :
 
I think it's in the Roman Polanski movie "Fearless Vampire Killers" that a vampire who was Jewish in life is presented with a cross and says something along the lines of "Oy vey, have you got the wrong vampire".

(Just checked on IMDB.com and yes, that's the line)
 
Posted by Hedgehog (# 14125) on :
 
There was an X-Man comic where Kitty Pryde (Jewish) holds a cross before Dracula. He laughs and brushes it aside and grabs her by the throat, because she has no belief int he cross--but Dracula then gets burned anyway because she is wearing a necklace with the Star of David.

This sort of ties in with the approach taken in Doctor Who's "The Curse of Fenric." The object isn't important--its the faith. A Communist soldier is protected from the vampires (although they weren't called that) because he has faith on the Communist Revolution. And it is suggested that the Doctor protects himself by reciting the names of his past companions--those whom he has faith in.
 
Posted by Brenda Clough (# 18061) on :
 
Yes, that's also a common feature, which I may well use. But does it have to be something physical? Is a generalized belief in the Communist Party sufficient, or do you need your Lenin pin? (And, if the Communist Party would do, would Star Wars? What about SoF?)
 
Posted by Rossweisse (# 2349) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Brenda Clough:
... Would reciting the Westminster Confession of Faith be sufficient to repel a vampire, or do you need a real physical artifact?...

Well, it would repel me - but I'm not a vampire.

I would think a regular cross or a Bible would do the trick.
 
Posted by ArachnidinElmet (# 17346) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Hedgehog:
This sort of ties in with the approach taken in Doctor Who's "The Curse of Fenric."

Yes, and the vicar who has a bible in hand but no faith comes to a sticky end.

There's a Buffy episode where Willow wonders why a Star of David doesn't work against vampires, but they don't come to any conclusions.

Also the scene in The Mummy (1990s) where Kevin J O'Connor tries to ward off the Mummy by showing him a cross and when that doesn't work working through various symbols before trying a Star of David which the 'ancient Egyptian' recognises.

I think it's a recognisable trope, but no two people can agree what the rules should be. Post-Dracula crosses rather than crucifixes are more in use. You don't have to be Catholic to cross two candlesticks a-la-Peter Cushing.
 
Posted by Gill H (# 68) on :
 
It comes into the German musical ‘Tanz der Vampire’ too. The Jewish innkeeper becomes a vampire and laughs when someone tries to use a cross to stop him.
 
Posted by Golden Key (# 1468) on :
 
Also in the film "Love At First Bite". Dracula is having a restaurant dinner with his romantic rival (RR).

RR is talking D towards a confrontation, and suddenly pulls out a Star of David necklace from his shirt, in great triumph.

D flinches, reflexively, then takes a closer look. "I think you should find a nice *Jewish* girl, and leave [name] alone".

Really good scene in a fun movie. [Smile]
 
Posted by Golden Key (# 1468) on :
 
BTW, good cast in "Love At First Bite"--especially George Hamilton as Dracula.
 
Posted by Golden Key (# 1468) on :
 
Nicole--

quote:
Originally posted by Nicolemr:
I think it's in the Roman Polanski movie "Fearless Vampire Killers" that a vampire who was Jewish in life is presented with a cross and says something along the lines of "Oy vey, have you got the wrong vampire".

(Just checked on IMDB.com and yes, that's the line)

Thanks for this. I heard and used the line quite a bit, decades ago, but I don't think I knew the source.
[Smile]
 
Posted by Golden Key (# 1468) on :
 
Brenda--

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Originally posted by Brenda Clough:
This has come up in the course of writing a story about vampires. As you know from Bram Stoker, one may defend against vampires with the paraphernalia of Catholicism -- crucifixes, holy water, etc.
My question is: Is there a Protestant equivalent? Would reciting the Westminster Confession of Faith be sufficient to repel a vampire, or do you need a real physical artifact? Which would be a problem, since the Reformation cleared out all those relics and crucifixes and stuff.

Brenda, are you familiar with the book "Sacred Space", by Denise Linn? Her professional specialty is clearing and protecting spaces, using feng shui and many other methods. I remember there's a Jewish method of using...um, kosher salt and vodka, flaming, to clear out a bad spirit. I don't remember anything specific to vampires, but there might be something, and she may list other resources.

There's also "Sister Karol's Book of Spells and Blessings". Karol Jackowski is an RC nun, and basically considers prayer, magic, etc. to all be part of the same thing. The edition I have is really beautiful--done up like a prayer book, with a hard cover; gilt-edged, quality paper; and ribbon markers. I don't think there's anything vampire specific; but there are ways to make bad things go away.

Oh, and do a search on "deliverance ministry", for the Prot. fund./char. angle.

Good luck!
 
Posted by Sipech (# 16870) on :
 
Question for any of the ship’s sparks.

A few weeks ago, a bulb blew quite spectacularly. I went to turn the light on and there was a momentary bright blue flash of light that lit up the whole flat. It tripped the circuit breaker and the bulb had a distinct scorch mark on it. Now, though, any bulb I try in that fitting doesn’t work. Yet the same bulbs work in other light fittings. I’m wondering if the fitting itself might somehow be dead. Is that possible?
 
Posted by Honest Ron Bacardi (# 38) on :
 
Yes it's definitely possible. It's also happened to me on a mains socket I had to replace. In that case there had been an arcing event which had caused the metal contact to burn out. You can also get tracking occurring (where the scorched plastic of the fitting starts to conduct current through the carbonised track).
 
Posted by Brenda Clough (# 18061) on :
 
Electricity is not a good thing for the DIY person. Hire a professional, unless you are very certain of what you are at. (And if you were, why would you be here asking us?!?)
 
Posted by Honest Ron Bacardi (# 38) on :
 
Wise advice, Brenda. (Even more so in the case of would-be amateur gas-fitting).
 
Posted by Leorning Cniht (# 17564) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Honest Ron Bacardi:
Wise advice, Brenda. (Even more so in the case of would-be amateur gas-fitting).

Gas is about the only thing I don't want to mess with (well, I've changed the ignitor in my oven, and a few bits and bobs in the gas dryer, but nothing that involves opening up a gas line and then sealing it again.)

I know how to, and could probably do it perfectly safely and so on, but I don't really want to.

For Sipech, yes, I agree that your light fitting is probably toast, and needs replacing. It'll take someone who knows what they're doing just a few minutes to replace it.

ETA: A suitably explosive subject for post 5000?

[ 13. February 2018, 21:05: Message edited by: Leorning Cniht ]
 
Posted by no prophet's flag is set so... (# 15560) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Sipech:
Question for any of the ship’s sparks.

A few weeks ago, a bulb blew quite spectacularly. I went to turn the light on and there was a momentary bright blue flash of light that lit up the whole flat. It tripped the circuit breaker and the bulb had a distinct scorch mark on it. Now, though, any bulb I try in that fitting doesn’t work. Yet the same bulbs work in other light fittings. I’m wondering if the fitting itself might somehow be dead. Is that possible?

Are there any other fittings that are on the same circuit? Check all the plugs in the room if all of the lights work. My experience is that sometimes some things are on the same circuit you'd not expect. With older homes they sometimes simply run wires from one fitting to another and not establish a new circuit. It's unlikely that this light is all alone. If it alone does not work, your light fitting is probably the problem.

Checking wall plugs: just carry around a small lamp and plug into all of them. If they all work, it's probably the light. But then you can turn off the breaker which popped when this light failed and recheck each plug-in fitting. Then you can see which are on the same circuit as the failed light. My 2¢ or .02d
 
Posted by simontoad (# 18096) on :
 
Back to Tourism USA. Back in 2016, we had a month travelling around America. We didn't enjoy the food, which surprised us. The standout place was Bryant Park Grill in New York , where I would happily eat for the rest of my life.

We took a casual approach to eating last time, which was possibly a problem, but I think that many times we just ordered incorrectly, or misread what type of place we were in, and had our hopes dashed.

For instance, I had a steak at a place in Sutter Creek - an upscale tourist town it is fair to say. They asked my how I liked it cooked - great sign - and I said rare. The steak I got was huge and cooked to my instruction, but it was gristly and tough. It would still have been that were it cooked to medium or well done, but I think the faults of the cut would have been less obvious. It was also quite a fatty cut - good for well done, not so much for rare. So I think I misordered by asking for rare in that instance, but also that I didn't realise that I was in a place that would serve what I regard as a cheaper and poorly prepared cut of meat.

Our next trip will be in November. We'll be going from LA to the Grand Canyon, possibly via a Mexican border town, then up to Sacramento via Death Valley and Yosemite, then over to the Monterrey area for Thanksgiving with my Yankee family and then up to San Francisco, from where we fly home.

We both know that American cooking is great, really great. We just need help trying to find it. We consider quality in ingredients and preparation to trump volume of food. For example I had an exquisite young parsnip, roasted, that I am still raving about from Sunday lunch. It was next to a strip of slow-cooked beef that melted off the fork and was a marvel in itself, but I think I shall dream about that parsnip tonight.

Any recommendations would be appreciated. Also, are there any high-quality franchises we should look out for, or any sort of weird code words you think we should know about. Also, what resources are good for finding a quality place? I am leery of trying to get into a first tier restaurant, because while it is no problem here to walk into such an establishment in the clothes you mow the lawn in, I fear there may be a tighter code in the USA. I am definitely a food wanker, but I will only wear a suit at a funeral. Also, we booked a place from home when we went to England and missed the booking by not quite knowing travel times or exactly where the place was. I don't like doing that. I absolutely LOVE going into a place full of suits with stains on my shorts and t-shirt.

What a ramble. I hope you enjoy reading it as much as I did writing it.
 
Posted by Brenda Clough (# 18061) on :
 
California is the most casual state in the union. The most you will ever need is a necktie, which is easily carried in your jacket pocket. I guarantee you that people only wear suits when they are being buried. Bring something warm, however -- in the mountains and even at the Grand Canyon it'll be cold.a
Do you follow the various online restaurant rating sites? They are very reliable in a crowd-sourcey way; a place that is adored by many will be fairly certainly good. It's easy to arrive in a town and survey the top ten or twenty eating places on Yelp or something, and make your pick. California is highly tech-savvy, so everything is ranked on the websites. There are some for the devoted foodies.
I would avoid all chains if you can manage it, unless you positively yearn for the experience.
One of the top burger places worldwide is near Calistoga CA, if you are going up the Napa valley. Also in Napa is French Laundry, which is not a laundry but one of the best restaurants in the region. If you are in San Francisco get to Alice Waters' restaurant in Oakland -- make a reservation as soon as you can because it's a small place.
I'm going to San Francisco in a couple weeks, and I'll let you know where my siblings are taking me for dinner. They live there and are up to date on the latest and greatest.
 
Posted by Pigwidgeon (# 10192) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by simontoad:

Our next trip will be in November. We'll be going from LA to the Grand Canyon, possibly via a Mexican border town, then up to Sacramento via Death Valley and Yosemite, then over to the Monterrey area for Thanksgiving with my Yankee family and then up to San Francisco, from where we fly home.

Are you passing through Phoenix? If so, we'll need a Shipmeet!
 
Posted by Pangolin Guerre (# 18686) on :
 
Simontoad, if you have the slightest interest in going to The French Laundry, make your reservations well in advance and start saving, like, now. Seriously. The waiting list is long, and dinner for two is about US$750+tax+gratuity, depending what you're drinking. And let's face it, if you're paying that much for the food, you're not going to be getting crap wine to go with it - not that you'd be able to there, so my estimate is lowballing. Thomas Keller is the most famous serious chef in the US. Lay your hands on a copy of Michael Ruhlman's The Soul of a Chef - it has a section on Keller. For those truly serious about food, it will bring tears to your eyes, not out of gluttony or envy, but at the shear, humble beauty of it.
 
Posted by simontoad (# 18096) on :
 
Thanks very much for the advice guys. The French Laundry sounds like a place to think about as a cuisine highlight. I treasure those aspects of a trip for a very long time, and fine the experiences well worth the investment. I worry about the booking aspect given our experience in the UK, but it is a factor only. I know booking is essential unless you are Kylie Kwong in Sydney and don't mind people lining up on the street in front of your place.

I find the experience of matching wines in a fine dining restaurant one that enhances my enjoyment of the meal to a certain point. After that, I sometimes catch myself wolfing down the dish and forgetting to appreciate the skills on display. I also start to slur my words a little. I hold my drink about as well as George Papadopoulos.

Pigwidgeon, thanks very much for the shipmeet suggestion. We will be passing close to Phoenix for sure. I'll be able to be more certain as our timetable works itself out.
 


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