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Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
Here is a brand new, shiny and surprisingly uncluttered thread for all of us who want more order in our lives. The old thread is now here in Limbo if you need to refer back to it.

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Posted by Nenya (# 16427) on :
 
Aww, a baby thread. I love new threads! *Pets thread gently*

We have bring-and-share-a-pudding lunch at church tomorrow so some of the Christmas food will be decluttered there. [Biased] Meanwhile I've been going round the house this morning trying to decide on the next area to declutter... I got partway through my dressing table the other day and lost interest. [Hot and Hormonal]

Nen - showing some symptoms of attention deficit disorder.
 
Posted by Surfing Madness (# 11087) on :
 
I need to sort my room out, and generally make it all fit, but I am hopeless at getting rid of things. [Help]
 
Posted by daisydaisy (# 12167) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nenya:
... I got partway through my dressing table the other day and lost interest. [Hot and Hormonal]

Nen - showing some symptoms of attention deficit disorder.

I inadvertently decluttered my dressing table... I discovered a forgotten box of dressy earrings but have now lost it again.
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
I have just discovered that listening to a talking book while I clear the debris of my life keeps me on task.

It sounds so simple, but has made a huge difference to my life [Yipee]

And yes, I do know I lead a boring life.

Huia
 
Posted by Smudgie (# 2716) on :
 
Huia, that sounds like a really really good idea. I may give that a try next week when I start work on sorting this junkyard of a flat out in earnest. Meanwhile I'm still in Christmas mode - one day to go [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Heavenly Anarchist (# 13313) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Huia:
I have just discovered that listening to a talking book while I clear the debris of my life keeps me on task.

It sounds so simple, but has made a huge difference to my life [Yipee]

And yes, I do know I lead a boring life.

Huia

I listen to talking books or iPlayer while tidying, often comedy CDs or radio 4, it does take your mind off it. last week I listened to the first 2 series of the radio 4 comedy, Old Harry's Game.
 
Posted by Nenya (# 16427) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Smudgie:
Meanwhile I'm still in Christmas mode - one day to go [Big Grin]

Indeed. It all begins in earnest tomorrow.
[Big Grin]

Nen - ignoring the piles of paperwork and wondering how much of the unopened box of Quality Street can be consumed before the end of the day. [Biased]
 
Posted by Starbug (# 15917) on :
 
Well, the Hippo bag is here and almost full! We've taken up the old stair carpet and removed most of The Mess that was down the side of the house. Later this week, we're gong to tackle the Cupboard Under The Stairs.
 
Posted by Belle Ringer (# 13379) on :
 
Serious decluttering needed here. One barrier, if the whole place is a mess, where do you put stuff to sort? Where do you pile stuff to garage sale? That requires an non-cluttered space before you start!
 
Posted by Heavenly Anarchist (# 13313) on :
 
Now the tree is down I can give the lounge a serious going over tomorrow, there's presents, toys and paper hiding away in corners. I might also reduce the books on the shelves to make room for those sitting around the landing.
 
Posted by Smudgie (# 2716) on :
 
Belle, that's my problem exactly. I can't even reorganise cupboards because there's nowhere to put the stuff while I'm reorganising. The only place really is the bed, with the result that it all gets taken off and hurriedly dumped on the floor at the end of the day! I need my son to go away for a month, or something, so I can use his bedroom.. except I'd have to do his bedroom before I could start!!!
 
Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :
 
I have lost an important piece of paper. This has the potential bonus that finding it is the most important thing to do today, so I can legitimately spend time decluttering the study till I find it.
(It will only be a bonus if I do, in fact, find it!)
 
Posted by Boogie (# 13538) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Belle Ringer:
Serious decluttering needed here. One barrier, if the whole place is a mess, where do you put stuff to sort? Where do you pile stuff to garage sale? That requires an non-cluttered space before you start!

Sniff sniff sniff (Boogie the bloodhound) - do I detect and excuse here [Biased]

Find some bits of floor to mark out as declutterig zones [Smile]
 
Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :
 
I haven't found my Important Bit of Paper, but I have found a money-off voucher which expired 22 May 2007.
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Boogie:
quote:
Originally posted by Belle Ringer:
Serious decluttering needed here. One barrier, if the whole place is a mess, where do you put stuff to sort? Where do you pile stuff to garage sale? That requires an non-cluttered space before you start!

Sniff sniff sniff (Boogie the bloodhound) - do I detect and excuse here [Biased]

Find some bits of floor to mark out as declutterig zones [Smile]

Start by throwing away everything that can be thrown away. You can take stuff to the recycling or charity shop if you can manage this, but you can also give yourself amnesty from this. The priority is to get stuff out of the house.

Don't overthink it, if it's hard to throw something leave it for now. Concentrate on clearing stuff out. That should clear some space.

Put stuff in the room it is supposed to live in. Then you will be able to see how much stuff there is for each room and it will be easier to sort.

Ask yourself if you are really going to make enough money from the garage sale to make the effort worthwhile? If not, get rid of the stuff as above. If the stuff is worth serious money a dealer will come and value it and take it away for you. Or place some individual small ads in the classified section of your local newspaper.

I have decluttered my shoes and cleaned out the bottom of the wardrobe. The survivors are packed in plastic boxes and shoe bags.

Embarrassing moment yesterday. I had stashed some boxes in the fitted wardrobe in the attic in an effort to make the room look more room like and less like a storage area for our prospective buyers.

The man opened the wardrobe doors and a large box fell out onto him.


[Hot and Hormonal] [Killing me] [Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by Anselmina (# 3032) on :
 
My usual untidy-housekeeping style has just recently got worse with the addition of a new dog who used to scavange to keep alive. He counter-surfs like nothing I've ever seen before - usually from on top of any surface he can fit his four paws onto, knocking everything around or onto the floor (crockery, glass and even on one very sad occasion a much-looked-forward-to bottle of wine).

And so far he's managed to snort his way through two plastic, twist-top jars of chocolate powder (unscathed!), two full pots of jam, any number of supposedly securely packaged buns, biscuits and binned bread items. If I nip to the loo for a moment, and leave anything vaguely resembling food, it becomes a ripped-up, crumby mess in less time than it takes to....... flush the toilet.

There's egg in the carpet where half a dozen boxed eggs bit the dust - shells and all. And last week I found him wandering round the garden with a Baker's Complete bag over his head and shoulders, banging into walls and trees. The only thing he hasn't done yet is open the fridge.

I shall have to take on a whole new idea of tidiness for the new year! But because he scavanges non-food items, too - anything in a packet or on the counter - I think it'll have to be, very reluctantly, a crate for the times I'm out of the house.
 
Posted by Belle Ringer (# 13379) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Thyme:
quote:
Originally posted by Boogie:
quote:
Originally posted by Belle Ringer:
if the whole place is a mess, where do you put stuff to sort? Where do you pile stuff to garage sale? That requires an non-cluttered space before you start!

Sniff sniff sniff (Boogie the bloodhound) - do I detect and excuse here [Biased]

Find some bits of floor to mark out as declutterig zones [Smile]


That assumes the floors aren't already piled with stuff!

quote:
Start by throwing away everything that can be thrown away. You can take stuff to the recycling or charity shop if you can manage this, but you can also give yourself amnesty from this. The priority is to get stuff out of the house.

Yes, I think that's the key, not trying to place it with someone who might like it ("Clara would love this blouse I've never worn, she's coming to visit in July so I'll save it for her" doesn't get it out of the house now!) and not thinking in terms of "I can surely get a few bucks for this at a garage sale or if I would learn the Ebay game" (that doesn't get it out of the house NOW.).

A huge part of the problem is that I accidentally became the resting site for the storage room of stuff of a homeless woman who wants me to sell the items piece by piece and told me prices. Unrealistic prices of course, we all over-value our stuff. I got an offer for her china set that was way lower than what she said to sell it for but higher than it goes for on Ebay (the set was once very popular), I emailed her for permission to sell at the lower price but she scolded me for something irrelevant instead of responding to the offer.

So I emailed her last week that in February I will pack up one footlocker of things I think are treasures for her, and sell everything else because I have to start getting the house cleaned out to sell and can't be waiting for her approval of prices anymore. (Some year I'll sell the house, right? Gotta start cleaning!)

My clutter is bad, someone else's stuff on top of my clutter is affecting my life. Most people go thru it at some point, have to take in their parent's or child's stuff for a while.

But I also need to face "my own clutter is bad." Always has been. I need some attitude adjustment towards insecurities and sentimental attachments and "might come in handy sometime" etc clutters. Decluttering my mind would have a side effect of less clutter in the house.
 
Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :
 
I can see the carpet in my study! And I've finally found the Important Piece of Paper! Sifting through the teetering heaps has made me realise just how much I still have to do; decluttering the study is going to take weeks. [Frown]

Our paper recycling box is full to overflowing with a week to go before recycling collection day.
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
quote:
But I also need to face "my own clutter is bad." Always has been. I need some attitude adjustment towards insecurities and sentimental attachments and "might come in handy sometime" etc clutters. Decluttering my mind would have a side effect of less clutter in the house.
Belle Ringer, I found it useful to think of it in terms of 'you've had your use out of it'. Just because you have owned something for ever doesn't mean you have to keep it indefinitely - you owned it, you used it, you enjoyed it, now set it free!

And the other side of it, of course, is 'if you haven't used it in ten years what in the world makes you think you ever will?'. Its space is more valuable to you than its presence.

My current dilemma is a huge dolls' house, the size of a chest of drawers, that I was 'lent' over 60 years ago. The idea was, it would be mine until the woman who owned it had children, which she never did, and now we have lost touch entirely. It has enormous sentimental value but nothing financially, and it is so big I can't imagine Miss S - assuming she has a daughter, please excuse gender-specificity - ever having room for it even if she wanted to.

Ah me ...

The Rueful Mrs. S
 
Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on :
 
Those things, such as the dollhouse, have sentimental value beyond cost or space needed. I have a few things like that (smaller, but still...) and I would rather apply my declutter rule to other stuff first.
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
Maybe I should tidy it up and repaper the outside, and then use it as storage? I could keep towels or stuff in there .... hmmm.

Mrs. S, considering
 
Posted by Boogie (# 13538) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by The Intrepid Mrs S:

My current dilemma is a huge dolls' house, the size of a chest of drawers, that I was 'lent' over 60 years ago. The idea was, it would be mine until the woman who owned it had children, which she never did, and now we have lost touch entirely. It has enormous sentimental value but nothing financially, and it is so big I can't imagine Miss S - assuming she has a daughter, please excuse gender-specificity - ever having room for it even if she wanted to.

Would taking lots of photos of it and putting them in a lovely frame help? (And then the thought of a child somewhere - who did have the space - enjoying it?)

[Smile]
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
Is there a museum locally that might welcome it?
 
Posted by Belle Ringer (# 13379) on :
 
A doll house lent 60 years ago by an owner no longer in contact, is a doll house the owner doesn't want or she'd have stayed in contact to make sure she got it back some day. Lent 60 years ago, if she was 20 then she's 80 now and probably living in too small a space for it.

I felt really bad when I gave away a stamp collection someone had loaned me, but after several years and several moves there was no way to find him and give it back, and I can't be expected to hang on to someone else's stuff forever just in case we bump into each other down the road.

If you ditch the doll house and the owner shows up to claim it a couple years later, you tell her it was terribly in the way for a decade but you couldn't find her and had to finally get rid of it to reclaim your own life/house.

If you would enjoy using it for storage, then fine. Otherwise, it's firewood. Unless a museum would love it but they are usually short on space.

(Always easier to ditch someone else's stuff! We should trade houses and do it for each other.)
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Belle Ringer:
(Always easier to ditch someone else's stuff! We should trade houses and do it for each other.)

Ain't that the truth!

It isn't that I'm concerned about the owner rolling up and demanding it back. The trouble is that, in and of itself, it isn't well proportioned; only having four cube-shaped rooms means that it takes up a lot of space for its play value. But, I loved it so much - sixty years ago when I were a child, toys were a lot harder to come by and accordingly much more appreciated!

Mrs. S, feeling OLD.
 
Posted by Sergius-Melli (# 17462) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by The Intrepid Mrs S:
And the other side of it, of course, is 'if you haven't used it in ten years what in the world makes you think you ever will?'. Its space is more valuable to you than its presence.

I have this question problem with books - or more properly, Mr. S-M has this problem with my books and asks the question constantly... I have them everywhere, in the cupboard under the stairs, under the bed, everywhere I can store I have to store because I can't part with them... some aren't particularly impressive or important, but I'm a book hoarder and refuse to part with a book even if I've not read it since Noah was in short-pants.

I really need someone to come round and just sort my books whilst I'm not there, I would probably be amazed at how much space I would gain from this exercise!
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
NO!

Not never! Not no now!

I HATE other people messing with my books - it gets me really anxious! Herself moved a few today, or I thought she had, and I got all strange about it - then I saw they were still there and she was only dusting them - PHEW!
 
Posted by Heavenly Anarchist (# 13313) on :
 
I also have books everywhere, and not necessarily on shelves. I have managed to recycle my old nursing text books but can't get my husband to part with any at all.
Today I cleared a square metre of floor in my sewing room/study and sorted my boxes of patterns. I may shortly revisit these boxes now they are organised and actually get rid of some of the patterns.
 
Posted by Sergius-Melli (# 17462) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Welease Woderwick:
NO!

Not never! Not no now!

I HATE other people messing with my books - it gets me really anxious! Herself moved a few today, or I thought she had, and I got all strange about it - then I saw they were still there and she was only dusting them - PHEW!

Whilst I hate the idea too - the only solution to me decluttering the unnecessary and out-of-date things would be for someone to come in and do it - Mr. S-M knows full well never to do it (it would be out in the old rabbit hutch if he tried) but one day I need to do it...
 
Posted by Nenya (# 16427) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by North East Quine:
And I've finally found the Important Piece of Paper!

That's great news! The loss of Important Pieces of Paper can dominate your life, glad yours is found. [Big Grin]

I've had to do a re-think about books; always they've been a non-negotiable with me. But when we were clearing my mum's house out in the autumn we just had to throw quite a lot away. It was absolutely heartbreaking [Waterworks] but I had to be realistic about who was going to give them house room (me) and whether they were going to get read or just collect dust. In most cases the answer was the latter.

I will always have loads of books, and they collect wherever I am... bedside table, desk, workstations, bathrooms... but I really am committed to decluttering them this year.

Things that have sentimental value are always really hard. When we were clearing my mum's house I learned from my brother that there had once been a boxful of letters that my grandmother had written to my mum, but my dad had thrown them away years before. I never knew my grandmother and would love to have read some of her letters. Just the knowledge that there were some that are now lost to me makes me sad. [Frown]

Nen - who wouldn't want anyone, even (or perhaps especially) Mr Nen, decluttering on her behalf.
 
Posted by Heavenly Anarchist (# 13313) on :
 
I think I would be able to cope with someone else de-cluttering, I suspect it would be liberating to give someone else the responsibility and just let go.
Last week my FIL gave my husband a stack of back copies of The Economist which he thought I might like to read. So basically he has de-cluttered them to my house. I think tomorrow I will spend a couple of hours flicking through them and then stick them in the recycling bin [Smile]
 
Posted by Belle Ringer (# 13379) on :
 
I have books my Grandmother gave me 40-50 years ago that I have never read, never reached for to read. I have books I bought 10 or 20 years ago with the intention to read them "someday." I have books I loved as a child, but if I reread one now, yawn. I have travel books from places I've been and places I thought I was going to go that I haven't looked at in the decades since the trip (planned or actual).

I was uncritically taught "books are your friends" but are they? They can't bring you chicken soup when you are sick!

Several decades ago I got rid of enough books that they were all single-layered on the shelves. I estimated 1000 books gone. I have missed one of them, just one. But if it were here double or triple layered behind other books I wouldn't be able to find it anyway.

I'm going to work really hard on the question why I have so many books I haven't opened nor wanted to open in decades! Yes they are almost all of them irreplaceable. That matters only of they are in fact of important value. Maybe a lot of my books belong in the hands of someone who would actually want to read them, instead of sitting dusty on my shelves?
 
Posted by Caissa (# 16710) on :
 
We periodically try to cull our book collection (thousands and thousand including those in bins in the basement.) We are currently on a one month hiatus from acquiring new books.
 
Posted by Smudgie (# 2716) on :
 
Have today discovered this website for UK folks which for me seems more gentle and personal than ebay for getting rid of stuff to people who live near enough to collect it.

For everyone who signs up and places an item on there to sell this month, they will make a £1 donation to the charity I work for.
 
Posted by Polly Plummer (# 13354) on :
 
Some friends of ours moved recently into a retirement complex where there is a communal library, which contains a wide range of books donated by the residents, on all sorts of topics. I wonder if it would be possible to create something like this for people who don't all live in the same place. I wouldn't mind setting some of my books free if I were sure other people could enjoy reading them, but could read them myself when I wanted.
 
Posted by Moo (# 107) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by The Intrepid Mrs S:
The trouble is that, in and of itself, it isn't well proportioned; only having four cube-shaped rooms means that it takes up a lot of space for its play value. But, I loved it so much - sixty years ago when I were a child, toys were a lot harder to come by and accordingly much more appreciated!

It may still have great appeal for a child. Is there a child-care center you could donate it to?

Moo
 
Posted by tessaB (# 8533) on :
 
I recently de-cluttered three bookcases full (double and sometimes triple stacked.) I took the path of picking each one up and if I wanted to open and re-read it then and there it went back on the shelf. If I didn't, it went into a bag. About 400 books ended up in bags and went to the local dump where there is a book container which goes to the British Heart Foundation charity shops.
I now have three single stacked bookcases with room for a couple of ornaments and pictures. Very pleased with myself, now to tackle the rest of the house [Hot and Hormonal]
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by tessaB:
I recently de-cluttered three bookcases full (double and sometimes triple stacked.) I took the path of picking each one up and if I wanted to open and re-read it then and there it went back on the shelf. If I didn't, it went into a bag. About 400 books ended up in bags and went to the local dump where there is a book container which goes to the British Heart Foundation charity shops.
I now have three single stacked bookcases with room for a couple of ornaments and pictures. Very pleased with myself, now to tackle the rest of the house [Hot and Hormonal]

Applause! [Overused]

When Master S moved out for good, he only took two carloads of Stuff with him, leaving a large-ish bedroom basically FULL. As the Intrepid Miss S wanted the room (a powerful incentive to her to help!) we took 3 months - I'm not kidding, THREE MONTHS - to empty it completely. Half the problem was that he had simply swamped our four bays of floor-to-ceiling bookshelves, double and triple stacking them and laying books on the tops of others (a pet hate of mine as an ex-librarian!) so we had all our books hidden behind them.

I packed all the books, lecture notes etc up into crates and heaved them into the attic. Now 7 years later they have only just come down from and been sorted. Most of them went. But I think perhaps he *needed* that interregnum to come to terms with the fact of leaving home properly.

As to the dolls house - thanks for all the helpful suggestions. Day care centres tend to be in shared 'accommodation' and need to pack the toys away. But what I *could* do is put a photo on the noticeboard at the back of church where we can offer things for free (part of our green credentials!)

Mrs. S, very grateful for all your support!
 
Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :
 
Having reduced the teetering piles in my study both in size and in number, and having revealed several square feet of carpet (yay!) I strode in happily today, and stubbed my toe on my desk - I'm so unused to be able to walk around the study I'd no sense of where the furniture was. [Hot and Hormonal]
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
The book conversation has propelled me into some book decluttering. They haven't left the house yet but are bagged up ready to go.

I am reading one! But only one.

All the dress patterns are sorted. I have researched local car boot sales and there are several, including what looks like an ideal one for prospective purchasers of patterns and fabrics.

I have started measuring and labelling the fabrics.

What I should have been doing is my tax........

[ 09. January 2013, 13:22: Message edited by: Thyme ]
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
Today I have opened and emptied a box I brought here 5 years [and a week or two] ago when we moved here from the city. Most of the contents I burned and a few bits I kept - I even found an almost new and unused roll of sellotape/Scotch tape/ whatever you might call it where you live - transparent sticky tape.

I also spent a further hour in Mrs E's room bagging up clutter now she has retired. I shall try to convince Himself to run a jeep load over to her next week sometime.
 
Posted by Starbug (# 15917) on :
 
The Hippo bag is almost full and Mr Bug has gone online to arrange collection! We almost have a clear passage down the side of the house now, which is quite a novelty.

As an aside to this, I've decided to declutter my time by resigning from a committee that I foolishly signed up for without considering the cost.
 
Posted by Belle Ringer (# 13379) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Polly Plummer:
Some friends of ours moved recently into a retirement complex where there is a communal library, which contains a wide range of books donated by the residents, on all sorts of topics. I wonder if it would be possible to create something like this... I wouldn't mind setting some of my books free if I were sure other people could enjoy reading them, but could read them myself when I wanted.

I don't think it's possible to have someone else house your stuff at their expense plus their guaranty it will be available to you. People often want to donate to libraries on the grounds the book will be on the self "forever"; doesn't work. Libraries have their own agendas.

I'll bet that senior center library doesn't accept any and all books, or they'd be overwhelmed when people brought their entire room and a half floor to ceiling libraries saying "house all of this for me."

My Mom's place had a library of books donated by residents, but it also had volunteer librarians to make sure the number of books accepted fit on the shelves and that the collection was varied instead of overwhelmingly romance or world war 2 or outdated once loved by someone college texts.
 
Posted by daisydaisy (# 12167) on :
 
I suspect this will horrify some people but, having checked their value, I am gradually reusing illustrations (and associated text) from fairly dilapidated childrens story books by turning them into birthday cards. It is tough because some of the books were my mother's but no-one else will be interested in them and it will help me declutter, even if very slowly. And hopefully they will give joy to the recipients.
 
Posted by Belle Ringer (# 13379) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by daisydaisy:
I am gradually reusing illustrations (and associated text) from fairly dilapidated childrens story books by turning them into birthday cards. It is tough because some of the books were my mother's but no-one else will be interested in them and it will help me declutter, even if very slowly. And hopefully they will give joy to the recipients.

I have seen people buy old books and tear them apart to sell as separate art objects the illustrations. You aren't the first!
 
Posted by Pigwidgeon (# 10192) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Belle Ringer:
quote:
Originally posted by daisydaisy:
I am gradually reusing illustrations (and associated text) from fairly dilapidated childrens story books by turning them into birthday cards. It is tough because some of the books were my mother's but no-one else will be interested in them and it will help me declutter, even if very slowly. And hopefully they will give joy to the recipients.

I have seen people buy old books and tear them apart to sell as separate art objects the illustrations. You aren't the first!
A local book dealer even sold the Book of Mormon a page at a time:
quote:
In 2005, Schlie became somewhat of a controversial figure among members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints when she announced plans to sell pages from the book for $2,500 to $4,000 apiece. She estimated she has sold 40 of the book's 588 pages, each mounted in a wooden frame.

 
Posted by daisydaisy (# 12167) on :
 
Now there's a thought. I'll see if any of them are good enough to frame.
 
Posted by Heavenly Anarchist (# 13313) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Belle Ringer:
quote:
Originally posted by daisydaisy:
I am gradually reusing illustrations (and associated text) from fairly dilapidated childrens story books by turning them into birthday cards. It is tough because some of the books were my mother's but no-one else will be interested in them and it will help me declutter, even if very slowly. And hopefully they will give joy to the recipients.

I have seen people buy old books and tear them apart to sell as separate art objects the illustrations. You aren't the first!
I've often used book pages in altered art and art jewellery. I think birthday cards are a great idea.
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
I've done it! I've taken the fabrics and dress patterns to the charity shop. They were happy to take them. So I am seeing it as a charitable donation.

I couldn't work up the energy to try a car boot sale. When I get into a decluttering frame of mind I need to get the stuff out quickly.

I feel quite drained. I had a huge emotional investment in the things and they have bothering me for a long time.

Perhaps I will be able to start making things with the keepers now.

My resolution is not to acquire another stash, not even sale bargains, but only to buy what I need when I need it.
 
Posted by Sergius-Melli (# 17462) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Thyme:
I've done it! I've taken the fabrics and dress patterns to the charity shop. They were happy to take them. So I am seeing it as a charitable donation.

I couldn't work up the energy to try a car boot sale. When I get into a decluttering frame of mind I need to get the stuff out quickly.

I feel quite drained. I had a huge emotional investment in the things and they have bothering me for a long time.

Perhaps I will be able to start making things with the keepers now.

My resolution is not to acquire another stash, not even sale bargains, but only to buy what I need when I need it.

Congrats.

I went home yesterday after work, pulled out one box of books, unloaded them all, and then promptly packed them all back in again with one exception - which is now taking the place of my bedside book after I finished the last one the other day...

Not very successful yet on my part!
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
Well done Thyme! That's really something to be proud of, accepting that the space is more useful to you than a *possible* financial return.

Mr S took two boxes of Stuff to the charity shop today. Hooray. Now back to the nagging re putting the rest of the stuff on eBay - I feel like Marge Simpson without the blue hair, practising her least nagging tone 'Homie ...'

Mrs. S, applauding other people's achievements [Overused]
 
Posted by Little Miss Methodist (# 1000) on :
 
I tidied the junk cupboard yesterday - you know, the cupboard you throw stuff into to tidy for visitors. It's my version of the cupboard under the stairs.

I had to take most of the stuff out of it so that electricians could replace my fuse box yesterday so took the opportunity to tidy up, throw things out and generally declutter a little bit. I can now get the Hoover in easily without having to shove it in and close the door swiftly before it falls out again... Massive win.

Last month I had a good sort out of books and magazines because someone gave me two new 8ft bookshelves to add to the two I already had... My books are a lot more organised now and I got rid of some magazines that I'd moved with from Birmingham ... [Hot and Hormonal]

I also went through my yarn stash and fabric stash and tidied them. I was pretty ruthless and got rid of quite a lot of fabric in particular, and whilst doing so found a blouse I used to love that had been retired to the fabric pile because it was too small. It now fits perfectly, so that was nice and felt like a good return for my efforts.
 
Posted by Deputy Verger (# 15876) on :
 
Books are the bugbear of the literate peripatetic. I used to go through them each move and keep all the ones I thought I might read one day etc. One Big Move I took the opposite tack. I kept only those that were either signed by the author or inscribed to me as a gift from someone I could still remember, on the basis that ALL the others could be replaced. It was magic. Not psychologically easy, but I got rid of many more than I retained. And all the rest went to a charity shop, of course. In fact, I was aided in the task by the manager of the shop in question, which also helped.
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
Congratulations Little Miss Methodist! And great that you found the blouse and it fits. Fabulous.

Sergius-Melli - well, progress not perfection is the watchword. At least you got them all back in the box again and not on the shelf! I've done that sort of thing many a time and just put everything back on the shelf or in the cupboard.
 
Posted by Boogie (# 13538) on :
 
My next decluttering task is the bookshelf on the landing - mostly pulp fiction so that should be easy, yes?
 
Posted by chive (# 208) on :
 
After eight years of doing virtually nothing in my house (difficult to care when you're working full time and madder than a bagful of weasels) I made a major decision. I put an ad for someone to help me sort and clean my house on gumtree. I got a ridiculous 78 replies and I think I've found the right person.

She's starting in a fortnight and she's going to do four hours a week for five weeks to work with me to declutter and clean and then going down to two hours a week just as a normal cleaner.

This is a huge weight of my mind as things had got so bad that I didn't even know where or how to start but working with someone should provide the motivation to get my house back.

Wish me luck because it's going to be quite a stressful experience.
 
Posted by Dormouse (# 5954) on :
 
I have decluttered the fridge of jars. The jar half full of mouldy duck fat was easy to throw out. The jar half full of mincemeat from Christmas 2011 - well, I'm not sure. It smells fine, & I've mixed it with half a jar of apple puree and a slug of calvados...butI am just not quite sure whether to use it. What would you do?
 
Posted by Boogie (# 13538) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Dormouse:
I have decluttered the fridge of jars. The jar half full of mouldy duck fat was easy to throw out. The jar half full of mincemeat from Christmas 2011 - well, I'm not sure. It smells fine, & I've mixed it with half a jar of apple puree and a slug of calvados...butI am just not quite sure whether to use it. What would you do?

I would use it. In fact I did use last year's mincemeat with a nice slug of brandy added.

The mince pies were delicious.

My Dad used to work in a Christmas pudding factory (yes-really!) and they always put the left over puddings from the year before into the new mix.

[Smile]
 
Posted by Qoheleth. (# 9265) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Dormouse:
The jar half full of mincemeat from Christmas 2011 - well, I'm not sure. It smells fine, & I've mixed it with half a jar of apple puree and a slug of calvados...butI am just not quite sure whether to use it. What would you do?

I used 2011 mincemeat in 2012's mince pies spiced up with extra brandy, and it tasted just fine! I suspect that there may have been some 2010 mincemeat blended into that too. [Biased]
 
Posted by Dormouse (# 5954) on :
 
If it hadn't been opened, I wouldn't have a problem. It is the fact that it's been opened (albeit in the fridge) for over a year that makes me pause...
 
Posted by Jengie Jon (# 273) on :
 
My sister has an absolutely gorgeous recipe for Christmas Pudding Ice Cream. It sounded very similar to this one for Mincemeat Ice Cream.

Jengie
 
Posted by Starbug (# 15917) on :
 
The ice-cream sounds delicious! (Both kinds - I love Christmassy flavours.)

In our attempts to declutter, we actually have more clutter than before! We've bought several new storage cupboards and trays, which are currently in the dining room in various states of self-assemply. Two of them are for the spare bedroom, but can't go in there until we've emptied and un-assembled the dressing table in there that will be given to mother-in-law. It's getting a bit complicated... [Eek!]

On the plus side, we've bought another, bigger Hippo bag, so this shouldn't create a new Mess at the side of the house. And we can finally dispose of the office chair and bird table that are still lurking down there.
 
Posted by Ferijen (# 4719) on :
 
Good luck Chive. I hope your helper really helps, and the process is useful on more than just a practical level.
 
Posted by Dormouse (# 5954) on :
 
If it hadn't been opened, I wouldn't have a problem. It is the fact that it's been opened (albeit in the fridge) for over a year that makes me pause...
 
Posted by Roseofsharon (# 9657) on :
 
My mince pies this Christmas were made with mincemeat left over from 2011 mincemeat. It was in a plastic tub - probably a kilo, or a kilo & a half's worth originally - which had been opened and half used, then kept in the larder cupboard ever since. I added cranberries and cointreau to one trayful of pies, and added some even older crystalized ginger to another.
No-one seems to have suffered any nasty after-effects.
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
I think I put on weight just reading that wonderful ice cream recipe!

Bring it on!
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
quote:
Mr S took two boxes of Stuff to the charity shop today. Hooray. Now back to the nagging re putting the rest of the stuff on eBay - I feel like Marge Simpson without the blue hair, practising her least nagging tone 'Homie ...'
A combination of disgusting weather here on Saturday and a free listing weekend on eBay did the nagging for me - I had just decided NOT to say anything when Mr S voluntarily fired up TurboLister. Man what a pain - it took both of us *4* hours to get 23 items loaded. [Ultra confused]

There are 49 people watching one item! [Yipee]

And anything that doesn't get sold can go to the tip - I'm sorry, the Domestic Refuse Recycling Facility. [Devil]

Mrs. S, busy collecting packaging materials
 
Posted by Barnabas Aus (# 15869) on :
 
We are redecorating and thus theoretically decluttering room-by-room. Today I took boxes 25-28 of obsolete teaching resources and other long out-of-date paperwork to the recycling dumpster at the local dump [with more still to be sorted]. We have given away ten boxes of teaching materials to a young student, with another four waiting to be delivered.

The issue is going to be disposing of the redundant shelves and chests of drawers now cluttering our rumpus room, while lounge, dining, master bedroom and study look shiny and new.

We also have thousands of books, but in the end will probably donate the ones no longer of interest to us to our regional university, which stages a massive annual book sale occupying the whole floor space of the Great Hall.

It's a huge task, but after nearly 35 years of marriage, and a cumulative 74 years of teaching, we really need to savagely cull our collections. The redecoration has been a strong motivator.
 
Posted by chive (# 208) on :
 
I went into the Oxfam bookshop in next town today and organised the man there to come round some time in the next few weeks and pick up the circa 500 books that are currently in a pile on the spare bedroom floor.

It's starting....soon my house will be immaculate.
 
Posted by Belle Ringer (# 13379) on :
 
How come I can lie in bed picturing things "I can get rid of that," "I never use that" but when I get up and see the same items in real life it is hard to impossible to put them in the "get rid of" box?

I swear things have claws and cling to you.
 
Posted by ecumaniac (# 376) on :
 
Did a massive clean of the kitchen just after new year's, before my housemates came back from their holiday. Pleased to report that the "broken windows" theory has been working well, and they have been tidying up after themselves EVERY NIGHT so far since!! [Yipee]
 
Posted by snowgoose (# 4394) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Belle Ringer:

I swear things have claws and cling to you.

Yes!

My craft room is a complete overcrowded mess, so I have decided to sell most of my craft supplies (I have thousands of beads I will never use) on ebay. All that stuff has been weighing on my mind, so it is time to be rid of it.

Also, I will be taking one of my sets of china to give to my niece when we drive up north in October.

I have managed to talk the gander into giving two chairs away. Believe me, this is a triumph.
 
Posted by Belle Ringer (# 13379) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by snowgoose:
I will be taking one of my sets of china to give to my niece when we drive up north in October.

Lucky you. The kids don't want my china, or grandma's china. They have their own tastes. Mostly, they don't want anything that can't go in the microwave or needs to be hand washed. I'll be putting Grandma's china out in the garage sale.
 
Posted by Lamb Chopped (# 5528) on :
 
Talk to the Grandkids before you do that--generations tend to pendulum swing.
 
Posted by Chorister (# 473) on :
 
When I downsize in the future, I intend to pile all my spare belongings into one room and invite all the kids and grandkids over to take what they want. Then the rest can go to a charity shop.

But of course, when the time comes, I expect I will find it much more difficult than that.....
 
Posted by Sergius-Melli (# 17462) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ecumaniac:
Did a massive clean of the kitchen just after new year's, before my housemates came back from their holiday. Pleased to report that the "broken windows" theory has been working well, and they have been tidying up after themselves EVERY NIGHT so far since!! [Yipee]

Whilst I may have continued to avoid even contemplating sorting out books again, I did do the kitchen yesterday, spent the day emptying cupboards, cleaning them and then reorganising things so the space is used much more effectively. I also managed to throw/give away a couple of things I've had hanging around at the back of the cupboards never to be used... I feel like I did some good, albeit small, decluttering yesterday... [Yipee]

[ 16. January 2013, 10:56: Message edited by: Sergius-Melli ]
 
Posted by birdie (# 2173) on :
 
Not a regular on this thread but saying this so you can hear and I have to report back.

I am currently going around the house collecting all the ridiculous piles of paperwork which are all over the place since the move. They are all going on to the table in the conservatory and then tomorrow is going to be Paperwork Day as I have no other commitments. My aim is for the table to be clear by the end of the day.

I may have to invite someone for Sunday lunch as extra table-clearing motivation.
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by birdie:
Not a regular on this thread but saying this so you can hear and I have to report back.

I am currently going around the house collecting all the ridiculous piles of paperwork which are all over the place since the move. They are all going on to the table in the conservatory and then tomorrow is going to be Paperwork Day as I have no other commitments. My aim is for the table to be clear by the end of the day.

I may have to invite someone for Sunday lunch as extra table-clearing motivation.

Well, you've told us now Birdie - we'll be expecting you to report back [Smile] We may just turn up for Sunday lunch as well, of course! Good luck, we'll be rooting for you...

Mrs. S - whose paperwork needs decluttering also but it's in a filing cabinet! [Two face]
 
Posted by birdie (# 2173) on :
 
Ergh - plan thwarted by the arrival of a nasty cold. I've done a bit of sorting into piles of different categories, but my head is too wooly to make decisions about the finer details! Having a cup of tea then back to bed.

Satisfying amounts in the 'recycle' and 'for mr b to deal with' piles already though!
 
Posted by Barnabas Aus (# 15869) on :
 
Chorister wrote:
quote:
When I downsize in the future, I intend to pile all my spare belongings into one room and invite all the kids and grandkids over to take what they want. Then the rest can go to a charity shop.

When my father died and my mother had to go into care, she gathered the three of us and divided her collection of crystal and china between us. While it was a small collection, some pieces from her glory box dating from the late 30's and into the 40's are now very valuable over and above the emotional and familial value which they hold.

My own children, now in their twenties and early thirties want to go through the same process before it becomes urgent, as we have all seen too many ugly family disputes arising from estates.

@snowgoose - My wife's craft room is much the same, and we have the overflow collection of ballet costuming resources in the rumpus room. For these reasons the craft room will be the last to be decluttered and redecorated. We have to finish every other room first so that we have moving and sorting space to deal with the craft room.
 
Posted by Heavenly Anarchist (# 13313) on :
 
My mother and my grandmother stuck labels on the bottom of ornaments and glassware to denote who they were going to.
 
Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :
 
Slight tangent/ Does anyone know how to go about getting a vase valued, preferably for free? When my elderly neighbour died, she had a large collection of ornaments. Her family didn't want them all, and her grand-daughter gave me a vase, as she thought it went well with my wallpaper (it did!)

A few years later my mother claimed to have spotted the same vase on Antiques Roadshow and it was "very valuable" Obviously if it was valuable, I'd return it to her family, but I don't want to spend good money having it valued, based on something Mum saw on TV.

It's stamped Royal Doulton on the base, a solid pottery type of vase, rather than china, and it looks as though it was painted while wet, and the colours ran, giving a blurry effect. It's glazed.

I like it very much and hope that it's not worth anything!

/End tangent.
 
Posted by Sergius-Melli (# 17462) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by North East Quine:
Slight tangent/ Does anyone know how to go about getting a vase valued, preferably for free? When my elderly neighbour died, she had a large collection of ornaments. Her family didn't want them all, and her grand-daughter gave me a vase, as she thought it went well with my wallpaper (it did!)

A few years later my mother claimed to have spotted the same vase on Antiques Roadshow and it was "very valuable" Obviously if it was valuable, I'd return it to her family, but I don't want to spend good money having it valued, based on something Mum saw on TV.

It's stamped Royal Doulton on the base, a solid pottery type of vase, rather than china, and it looks as though it was painted while wet, and the colours ran, giving a blurry effect. It's glazed.

I like it very much and hope that it's not worth anything!

/End tangent.

Have a look on-line. There are forums for pretty much everything where people will have a look at items for you and give you an impression of what they think about it.
 
Posted by Firenze (# 619) on :
 
There's this site. Do you see anything like your vase there?

[ 17. January 2013, 16:55: Message edited by: Firenze ]
 
Posted by Pigwidgeon (# 10192) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Firenze:
There's this site. Do you see anything like your vase there?

That links right back to this thread.
[Confused]

[link fixed]

[ 17. January 2013, 16:59: Message edited by: Firenze ]
 
Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :
 
No, I've had a look several times on google images to see if I could see it. There are dozens of different Doulton vases! There are vases with same colour scheme dating from the 1930s, valued at about £40-£60 pounds, but to my untrained eye, they look "better" than mine, in that they have a distinct pattern over a blurry background, whereas mine is all blurry IYSWIM.
 
Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :
 
Lot 54 (scroll halfway down) has a jug with the same blurry finish - but I'd say my vase is more attractive than the jug, because it has different colours melding into each other. It's a combination of strong colours (deep blue, pink, brown, yellow, bluey-green) and soft lines. Looks lovely full of pink carnations!
 
Posted by Jengie Jon (# 273) on :
 
What about these.

Jengie
 
Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :
 
Wow! Mine has two sets of initials on the base - JH and WK or WR or WB. Googling Royal Doulton JH hadn't provided an answer. Mine's a different size, shape and colour scheme but I've no doubt it's painted by the same person.
Thank you, Jengie Jon!
 
Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :
 
Apologies for derailing the thread.

To return to decluttering - we have an aged king size duvet lurking, which wasn't going to be used again, but it seemed a pity to take it to the tip. Our vet, who does pro bono for a nearby animal sanctuary, has said it can be used to make a sick animal comfy. Apparently there's an ailing goat who will be very grateful! Result!
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by North East Quine:
Apologies for derailing the thread.

To return to decluttering - we have an aged king size duvet lurking, which wasn't going to be used again, but it seemed a pity to take it to the tip. Our vet, who does pro bono for a nearby animal sanctuary, has said it can be used to make a sick animal comfy. Apparently there's an ailing goat who will be very grateful! Result!

We give all our leftover bedding to a charity that helps resettle people who have been left with nothing (women fleeing abusive situations, homeless being housed, etc etc). I know yours has already gone to the goat*, but other shippies in that situation, please don't assume because you won't use it again it's only fit for the tip. Mr S was going to take an old set of bedlinen along to the food bank for onward transmission this morning - but as he has had to walk a mile or so through falling snow I relented and let him off till next week!

I tell all potential donors to look at their stuff from the point of view of someone who otherwise would have *nothing* - to cook in, sleep under, whatever, and it's surprising how much more appealing it becomes!

(end of sermon - sorry!) [Hot and Hormonal]

* better than going to the bad, or to the tip!

Mrs. S, unsure whether to be Good King Wenceslas or the page ...


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[ 18. January 2013, 09:58: Message edited by: Welease Woderwick ]
 
Posted by Sergius-Melli (# 17462) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by North East Quine:
Wow! Mine has two sets of initials on the base - JH and WK or WR or WB. Googling Royal Doulton JH hadn't provided an answer. Mine's a different size, shape and colour scheme but I've no doubt it's painted by the same person.
Thank you, Jengie Jon!

There is a group on facebook that might be able to help you:

facebook
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
I want to get rid of some functional but unsightly filing cabinets. So have started re-organising the contents into boxes and arch lever files.

But I didn't/don't have any clear plan for the filing storage alternative.

I've reached the stage where the room and the files are in chaos. It is as much effort to abandon the project and put everything back as it is to go on.

I think I am going to have to start again from scratch.

I have managed to get rid of some papers though.
 
Posted by Firenze (# 619) on :
 
What about yer bog standard IKEA bookcase? Shelves can be adjusted to the height of the files/stacked boxes.

Insofar as any paperwork is organised in this house, it lives on the lower reaches of bookshelves in box files labelled 'bills', 'statements', 'important stuff' etc.
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Firenze:
What about yer bog standard IKEA bookcase? Shelves can be adjusted to the height of the files/stacked boxes.

Good idea, we have an Ikea here in Thyme City but I forget because it is new. It is an attic room so the walls are not full height. I will need to do some careful measuring. I think I need to get all the paper into boxes and files first so I know what amount of shelf space I need.

I don't have a good feeling about this. I think it is going to make the filing more difficult and therefore the old 'PILES' system will re-emerge. [Frown] The filing cabinets are unsightly but they do keep it all under control. Too late now.
 
Posted by Starbug (# 15917) on :
 
Thanks to the snow, Mr Bug and I spent most of today decluttering. We now have a tall shelf unit in the bathroom for storing towels, loo rolls etc. Also two plastic shelving units in the spare bedroom, which I'm mostly using to store bed linen,although Mr Bug has commandeered two of them as his 'man drawers'. We've also hidden away the snooker table top that was previously in the dining room, so for the first time in several years I can access all of my bookshelves again. All in all, very productive. [Yipee]
 
Posted by Belle Ringer (# 13379) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Thyme:
I don't have a good feeling about this. I think it is going to make the filing more difficult and therefore the old 'PILES' system will re-emerge. [Frown] The filing cabinets are unsightly but they do keep it all under control. Too late now.

There's really no better place for papers than filing cabinets! Can you paint the cabinets, or put them behind a curtain?

The only alternative I know is to buy lots of filing boxes and buy bookshelves to store them on.
 
Posted by Firenze (# 619) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Thyme:

I don't have a good feeling about this. I think it is going to make the filing more difficult and therefore the old 'PILES' system will re-emerge. .

It's why I favour the open-top style of box file. You can see what's in there and when it fills up, you are prompted to decide whether you really need to keep 15 years worth of back whatever.
 
Posted by Yangtze (# 4965) on :
 
May I join you?

Six bags to the charity shop in last two days. Am renting out spare room for a few weeks which has galvanised me I to action. Spare room is supposed to be office but of course for last few years has basically been junk dumping ground.

Have still got a way to go though. Not to mention the other rooms.....
 
Posted by Boogie (# 13538) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Yangtze:
May I join you?

Six bags to the charity shop in last two days. Am renting out spare room for a few weeks which has galvanised me I to action. Spare room is supposed to be office but of course for last few years has basically been junk dumping ground.

Have still got a way to go though. Not to mention the other rooms.....

Welcome to the thread Yangtze!

I have been de-cluttering and de-piling for ages now - I am naturally messy, so it's a constant challenge. But SO worth it!

[Smile]
 
Posted by Nenya (# 16427) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Boogie:

I have been de-cluttering and de-piling for ages now - I am naturally messy, so it's a constant challenge. But SO worth it!

Does the battle never end? [Frown]

Nen - feeling discouraged.
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
Nenya: No it never ends, but it does get easier! The key is to find new habits to replace the old ones which led to the clutter taking hold. [Two face]

I was incapable of keeping my dining room table clear until it dawned on me that if I never, ever put anything on it, or didn't leave anything overnight the problem would be solved.
And so it turned out. I also put a runner and an ornament on it so it looks nice as a deterrent.

Likewise with the bedside table. I put the books in progress in their own place on a bookshelf. Nothing goes on the table except the alarm clock and lamp and the current book. Although the Kindle and ipod seem to be taking up residence. But they can go in the drawer.

I also realised that most of my piles of paper clutter got binned once I started putting them away. So I am a lot better at binning the junk stuff immediately.

I am making progress with the file reorganisation. One cabinet is empty and the other two are leaner. I have put the boxes in some plastic containers for the moment and reorganised the wardrobe. So there is some order emerging.

Firenze's idea of the bookshelf is growing on me. I think that will be the answer. I am also wondering if I can release some space on the bookshelves downstairs and if so will I also keep up with the filing. [Confused]

Although am I doing well at simplifying my life so there isn't much filing to do. [Cool]

[ 19. January 2013, 14:18: Message edited by: Thyme ]
 
Posted by ecumaniac (# 376) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Thyme:
filing. [Confused]

I have four (four!) butt ugly file cabinets at work, so to make them prettier and less dreary to stare at every day I stuck wall paper to the front of them. Tutorial here, I used watered down pva instead of "modge podge". When I'm at work next week I will see if I can upload a photo.

At home for paperwork I keep document wallet folders in a couple of plastic crates that slot neatly underneath a desk. The 24, 35, 42 & 64 litre Really Useful Boxes will fit foolscap sized files. I think suspension files are the work of the devil, but those fit too. This photo is of my ex-housemate's filing system. Her crates live on shelves.
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
Thanks for the links and info ecumaniac, very interesting and useful.

I'm determined to get rid of the file cabinets - I would never get round to decorating them!

The info on the boxes is very useful.
 
Posted by Nenya (# 16427) on :
 
Nenlet2 has brought back a boxful of beautiful unused lever-arch files from his work which were going to be thrown away. [Eek!] They've made me really keen on the idea of filing. Though not quite keen enough to actually start doing it.

Nen - procrastinator.
 
Posted by Eleanor Jane (# 13102) on :
 
We've been shopping a bit lately, so to offset the consumerism, I've finally gotten around to sorting out things to take the Charity Shop. Nice warm things like hats, gloves, a coat etc. which will hopefully help someone who needs them.

I also had a good tidy and throw out of our bookcase.

Now I just need to get my husband willing to look at his shirts with a view to charity shopping some of them... Wish me luck!
 
Posted by jacobsen (# 14998) on :
 
Sometimes old and creaky possessions can find a new lease of life. I had four IKEA woven baskets which used hold shoes, and would tuck under two chests of drawers in my bedroom. Then I moved from a flat to a house,and the shoes found other storage.

This is where the instant declutterer might have steeled herself to bin or give the baskets away. BUT I also have an upstairs sewing cupboard, while the sewing area, aka dining table, is downstairs.

Those four baskets now fit beautifully under my ancient convertible couch, which I was also thinking of replacing. They hold current sewing which I don't want to keep trecking up and downstairs, and knitting wool. A perfect match of old furniture and storage solution. (How is it that even a move from a two bedroom flat to a three bedroomed house with attic, utility room and garage, still left me needing more storage space? Even after junking an enormous amount of stuff?)

With a new foam rubber cushion along its length, that couch is here to stay.

[ 20. January 2013, 18:20: Message edited by: jacobsen ]
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
Lever arch files are fab! I had them in my office before I retired, all arranged on a bookcase behind my desk so I could scoot back and select the right one then scoot back and replace it when I had finished. Get lots of plastic pockets and you'll never look back.
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nenya:
quote:
Originally posted by Boogie:

I have been de-cluttering and de-piling for ages now - I am naturally messy, so it's a constant challenge. But SO worth it!

Does the battle never end? [Frown]

Nen - feeling discouraged.

Nen - last year I persuaded a friend of mine, instead of giving stuff up for Lent, to resolve to put her clothes, shoes etc away as she went along, rather than leaving them all around the house. She's still doing that nearly a year later! So, it CAN end, with enough shiny new habits [Smile] You need a motto - 'don't put it down, put it AWAY!'

In other news, we have managed to unload most of the stuff Mr S put on e-bay (and made some pennies [Yipee] What's left is being advertised on the noticeboard at the back of church, for free, or going to the tip. The workbench in the garage is *nearly* clear now, after Wayne came and took away the Atari and a ginormous boxful of games for it. Sadly his wife was Not Happy - he collects computers*

*well, so do we, but not intentionally!

Mrs. S, so pleased to see the back of all this Stuff!
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nenya:
quote:
Originally posted by Boogie:

I have been de-cluttering and de-piling for ages now - I am naturally messy, so it's a constant challenge. But SO worth it!

Does the battle never end? [Frown]

Nen - feeling discouraged.

Nen - last year I persuaded a friend of mine, instead of giving stuff up for Lent, to resolve to put her clothes, shoes etc away as she went along, rather than leaving them all around the house. She's still doing that nearly a year later! So, it CAN end, with enough shiny new habits [Smile] You need a motto - 'don't put it down, put it AWAY!'

In other news, we have managed to unload most of the stuff Mr S put on e-bay (and made some pennies [Yipee] ) What's left is being advertised on the noticeboard at the back of church, for free, or going to the tip. The workbench in the garage is *nearly* clear now, after Wayne came and took away the Atari and a ginormous boxful of games for it. Sadly his wife was Not Happy - he collects computers*

*well, so do we, but not intentionally!

Mrs. S, so pleased to see the back of all this Stuff!

[ 21. January 2013, 08:01: Message edited by: The Intrepid Mrs S ]
 
Posted by Boogie (# 13538) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nenya:
quote:
Originally posted by Boogie:

I have been de-cluttering and de-piling for ages now - I am naturally messy, so it's a constant challenge. But SO worth it!

Does the battle never end? [Frown]

Nen - feeling discouraged.

Oh dear - I was trying to be encouraging!

My clutter and piles were unusually bad and I have ADHD which means organising myself is a constant battle. But I am so much happier and less stressed with a (nearly, nearly) clutter free house.

[Smile]
 
Posted by CuppaT (# 10523) on :
 
Somehow what started as decluttering for me, selling off some clothes on consignment and some books on Amazon, has morphed into other people giving me things to sell for them also. So now I have more!
 
Posted by Japes (# 5358) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nenya:
quote:
Originally posted by Boogie:
[qb]
I have been de-cluttering and de-piling for ages now - I am naturally messy, so it's a constant challenge. But SO worth it!

Does the battle never end? [Frown]

Nen - feeling discouraged.

What I've found is that the battle has significantly reduced! Where I'd put aside a whole day, regularly and resentfully, to tackle the work, now I've been keeping on top of it more, it has reduced to a couple of hours, less regularly.

I'm a naturally messy, untidy person, and that's where the battle mostly is with me, the part of me that likes to be tidy and organised, agin the messy, untdy me. That battle will probably never be won!!
 
Posted by Heavenly Anarchist (# 13313) on :
 
Just cleared the huge pile on the chest in my bedroom and tidied all the clothes and shoes away. I need to get my bedroom back into a presentable state.
 
Posted by Heavenly Anarchist (# 13313) on :
 
Following Flylady's instructions, today my plan is the tackle to chest I keep the underwear, socks, tights etc in. When I did the major declutter of the bedroom a couple of months ago I rather dumped this area and said I'd get back to it later and never did [Roll Eyes] there's tights in there that I haven't worn for years.
 
Posted by Heavenly Anarchist (# 13313) on :
 
I like the idea of a Lent resolution [Smile]
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Heavenly Anarchist:
I like the idea of a Lent resolution [Smile]

It worked really well for my friend, HA - just need to persuade her to start doing the same with the heaps of papers she has all over the place!

Mrs. S, wishing she could declutter some of this sn*w
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
Errghh! I have nearly emptied the filing cabinets. I am running out of steam but must finish or it will never get done. Tempted just to bung several remaining files into the boxfiles without weeding and sorting first.

A scrap metal merchant has put me in touch with a man who will collect them for free. This is a bloke with a van I think. He takes them away and sells them on. I might be able to get a small amount of cash for them if I took them to the yard myself but then I would have to get them down two flights of stairs, into the car etc, etc. The likely amount of money is not worth the hassle.

The problem of how to store the files and make a replacement worksurface remains but I have a sort of a plan. (There is a length of kitchen worktop over the cabinets forming a desk at present).

As with all major changes it is making me feel sick and stressed.
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
But it will be so LOVELY when it's done, Chive!

Mrs. S, regarding the S family study with disfavour
 
Posted by Nenya (# 16427) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Welease Woderwick:
Lever arch files are fab! I had them in my office before I retired, all arranged on a bookcase behind my desk so I could scoot back and select the right one then scoot back and replace it when I had finished. Get lots of plastic pockets and you'll never look back.

Mr Nen, who is the paperwork expert of the house, files everything in lever arch files. He has shelves full of them in his study. I've been unconvinced until recently (my side of the family always employed the stick-it-back-in-the-envelope-and-put-it-in-a-pile-or-drawer filing system) when he's been helping sort out my mum's paperwork and I've seen how his method works so much better. [Smile]

I like the idea of Lent resolutions as well - so much more constructive than giving things up. I'm going to give it some thought. Thanks, Mrs S. [Smile]

Boogie - you didn't say anything wrong, you did say decluttering was worth it! I was just feeling discouraged generally when I posted that.

Nen - when's Ash Wednesday? [Ultra confused]
 
Posted by Heavenly Anarchist (# 13313) on :
 
Well I've sorted the underwear and sportswear, thrown lots out and moved some other piles of clothing into new homes. Getting there [Smile]
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
Congratulations!
 
Posted by Eigon (# 4917) on :
 
Off to the charity shop shortly with some clothes I've grown out of (sideways) and down to the recycling with some scarves that are too ratty for the charity shop (I was learning to knit when I made them, with far more enthusiasm than skill!)
 
Posted by Japes (# 5358) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nenya:

Nen - when's Ash Wednesday? [Ultra confused] [/QB]

13th February.
 
Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :
 
I've just found my daughter's "Santa list" [Hot and Hormonal]
Still, it's given me an idea for her next birthday!
 
Posted by kingsfold (# 1726) on :
 
quote:
posted by NEQ:
I've just found my daughter's "Santa list" [Hot and Hormonal]

For which year? [Biased]
 
Posted by Nenya (# 16427) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Japes:
quote:
Originally posted by Nenya:

Nen - when's Ash Wednesday? [Ultra confused]

13th February. [/QB]
Thank you. [Big Grin]

Nen - off to search for diary.
 
Posted by Yangtze (# 4965) on :
 
So, I basically got the house clear and tidy-ish enough for friend to have at least some space in the spare room. However my room is now full of stuff.

There just isn't enough storage for everything I have so things are going to have to go. Yes, I work from home but that doesn't mean the work papers have to take over everything.

The "it might be useful one day" drive is VERY strong in me.
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
Congratulations Yangzte


I have emptied all the filing cabinets. Although there is still a pile of files waiting for a new home.

Weather has prevented me from getting sufficient quantities of boxes.

I am trying not to think about how much money I have spent on boxes, lever arch files and plastic pocket sheets.

I'm also at a tedious stage of trying to make best use of the things I have so I will have to reorganise some boxed stuff into the lever arch files. Tedious.

John with the van and his mate are arriving tomorrow afternoon to take the filing cabinets away.

Tasks before then are to clear the stuff off the worktops and clear the access to the cabinets and stairs. Shouldn't take long. [Big Grin]

[ 24. January 2013, 14:08: Message edited by: Thyme ]
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
quote:
The "it might be useful one day" drive is VERY strong in me.
Yangtze, you may need to work on its replacements 'Good grief,that doesn't owe me anything!' and 'If it hasn't been useful these last 10 weeks/months/years/decades/delete as required, then it never will!'

Good luck ...

Mrs. S, proud owner of a decanter or three ...
 
Posted by The Kat in the Hat (# 2557) on :
 
I can almost see the floor in my office!! [Yipee]
 
Posted by Starbug (# 15917) on :
 
I had some old duvets to get rid of, which were going to be thrown out in the Hippo bag. A work colleague advertised that she needed some old blankets for a dog shelter, so I asked if the duvets would be any use. Twenty-four hours later, we have a clear space on the floor and the dogs have some warm bedding. [Smile]

[ 24. January 2013, 21:37: Message edited by: Starbug ]
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
Good for you Kat. [Yipee]

I could hardly see the floor in my attic yesterday despite throwing out loads of stuff. I seem to have just as much left. I had several files with names like 'odd bits and pieces' 'Useful stuff' and so on. Some of them contained duplicate items. [Roll Eyes]

John and mate turned up on time and removed the cabinets and worktops.

It doesn't look a lot better. At least before it looked like an office, a scruffy office but an office. I am wondering if I have done the right thing.

Now it looks like a storage area. It looks smaller as well. Still I am not finished yet.

I dusted, hoovered and washed all the areas previously hidden by the cabinets.

It needs decorating. It would be easy enough as I woudn't need a ladder, just a chair and it wouldn't involve removing wallpaper. I will try and do that this year if we haven't sold it by Easter.

While I was at it I prised open the little door into the roof space. As I suspected there are some boxes and box files in there. I think they have been there at least 10 or 15 years, maybe longer. I don't know what is in them. When we move I'll have them cleared out and dumped.
 
Posted by Nenya (# 16427) on :
 
Mr Nen and I talked Decluttering this morning and made a sort of pact. I'm going to declutter my paperwork and he's going to declutter his clothes. (The admission that he needs to is something of an event. [Biased] [Yipee] )

We have a free afternoon so I'll start after lunch...

I so understand that "it might come in useful" thing, especially as I'm sure I'm not the only one to have thought on occasion (ok, maybe only one or two occasions [Biased] ) "If only we still had the..."

Nen - procrastinating on the Ship as usual. [Hot and Hormonal]
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
All the sorting and filing is done. It is not perfect but it is finished.

I've decided to get Ikea bookcases, they have the perfect thing,(thanks for that idea Firenze) and a folding table.

The Really Useful boxes would probably be cheaper but not so visually attractive. We want people to see the possibilities of the room. And they wouldn't provide such flexible shelf space.

I was going to order/get them today but this morning the estate agent phoned, people wanted to view the house in less than two hours time.

[Eek!]

Mr T and I scampered round stashing and dashing, swishing and swiping and so on. We have a well rehearsed routine now.

I do owe such a debt of gratitude to FlyLady. We were ready even though they arrived early and the house looked OK because I have kept up with basic routines.

The attic had to be presented as a work in progress. Thank goodness the filing cabinets had gone. I stacked everything up as neatly as possible against the wall and the room did look much larger than before.

So I am not going to buy any stuff until we know if they are going to buy it. They said they are ready to move, no chain, so our fingers are crossed and [Votive] .

[ 26. January 2013, 16:25: Message edited by: Thyme ]
 
Posted by Heavenly Anarchist (# 13313) on :
 
That sounds positive [Smile]
DH has spent the day clearing the outhouse as he has just bought a huge metal lathe secondhand from work and it needed a home.
 
Posted by chive (# 208) on :
 
After a week staying at my sister's extremely tidy house I came back to my shit tip. Cleaner starts on Tuesday so I'm trying not to get too downhearted but I'm terrified of the whole thing. I usually refuse to have people in my house (partly the mess, mostly the madness) so it's going to be immensely difficult to let her in and let her touch my 'stuff.' And part of me is comforted by my stuff - it's my security blanket.

I keep telling myself this is a good idea but as it gets imminent the desire to hide under the bed increases exponentially.
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
Courage! [Votive]
 
Posted by Starbug (# 15917) on :
 
We went to visit mother-in-law today, taking with us a wooden table with double drawers that I'd been using unsuccessfully for storing tea towels. We put it in her spare room. MIL now has a new-to-her dressing table and we now have a set of much more practical storage drawers.

This decluttering thing is becoming addictive! [Yipee]
 
Posted by Nenya (# 16427) on :
 
Mr Nen spent some time sorting his clothes this afternoon and most of them have gone back into the cupboards, but I do have a pile of things to get rid of so it's a start.

Meanwhile my paperwork is slowly starting to migrate into a lever arch file. Very slowly.

Nen - tired and a bit overwhelmed. [Frown]
 
Posted by Heavenly Anarchist (# 13313) on :
 
Well, I'm feeling virtuous today, having cleaned the bathroom, cleared my hotspot (kitchen table), tidied the veg rack and wiped down the kitchen surfaces. Later I will do as Flylady says and give the lounge a quick tidy. I also have the urge to sort out dh's wardrobe - I think this might all be displacement activity for the fact that I should be doing my marking [Smile]
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
I can see you've all been working hard [Hot and Hormonal]

I wanted to share a tip that I picked up when the Telegraph did a series on housework, years ago. Get all your bedlinen out of the airing cupboard (or wherever you hide it) and sort it into sets - then store each set in one of its pillowcases. Get rid of all the odds and ends (or at the very worst, put them into a pillow case at the back).

Result - tidy airing cupboard and easy bed changing, how many hours did I waste when we had single as well as double beds, trying to put a single sheet on to a double! It's such a small thing but SO useful - and FREE!

Mrs. S, hoping someone else finds this helpful [Smile]
 
Posted by Heavenly Anarchist (# 13313) on :
 
That is a good idea [Smile]
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by chive:
Cleaner starts on Tuesday so I'm trying not to get too downhearted but I'm terrified of the whole thing.

Chive, you may find that the desire to get your money's worth out of the cleaner is helpful - our house is pretty tidy but both Mr S and I rush round putting stuff away before our cleaners come, because we don't want them to waste paid time moving Stuff about!

Once you have it a bit tidier you may find that it's such a nice feeling you're encouraged to keep it up [Big Grin] YMMV of course

Mrs S, in a spirit of encouragement...
 
Posted by Boogie (# 13538) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by The Intrepid Mrs S:
quote:
Originally posted by chive:
Cleaner starts on Tuesday so I'm trying not to get too downhearted but I'm terrified of the whole thing.

Chive, you may find that the desire to get your money's worth out of the cleaner is helpful - our house is pretty tidy but both Mr S and I rush round putting stuff away before our cleaners come, because we don't want them to waste paid time moving Stuff about!

Yes - we had a cleaner 'till we semi-retired and couldn't afford/justify one. My cluttering tendencies meant I stuffed the stuff in cupboards on the day before the cleaner came [Hot and Hormonal]

My decluttering now includes trying to make sure EVERYTHING has a place. It's so hard for my disorganised mind - but my kitchen and stationery cupboards have been thus sorted for 6 months now - wayhay! It's a joy to know where the selotape is!

My study leaves a lot to be desired, still. But now I know it can be done.

Battle on, battle on!

[ 28. January 2013, 13:55: Message edited by: Boogie ]
 
Posted by Nenya (# 16427) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by The Intrepid Mrs S:
I can see you've all been working hard [Hot and Hormonal]

I wanted to share a tip that I picked up when the Telegraph did a series on housework, years ago. Get all your bedlinen out of the airing cupboard (or wherever you hide it) and sort it into sets - then store each set in one of its pillowcases. Get rid of all the odds and ends (or at the very worst, put them into a pillow case at the back).

Result - tidy airing cupboard and easy bed changing, how many hours did I waste when we had single as well as double beds, trying to put a single sheet on to a double! It's such a small thing but SO useful - and FREE!

Mrs. S, hoping someone else finds this helpful [Smile]

That really is a useful idea. [Smile] I sorted my airing cupboard not so very long ago, but when its turn comes round again that's what I'll do. [Smile]

For the last two days I've shipped bagfuls of Mr Nen's clothes to the charity shops and the clothes banks and it's good to be almost clear of them now. I've also got a bit of filing to do this afternoon, to try and keep my breakfast bar clear (one of the hotspots that attracts clutter). The house is littered with my various attempts at filing and it's going to take a while to consolidate them all.

Nen - still tired but a bit more optimistic.
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
I like the storing of bedlinen idea. I will do that next time I feel moved to tidy the airing cupboard.

I have ticked a few icky jobs off my list.

Wash the kitchen floor - Done

Clean the soap dispenser and drawer in the washing machine - Done.

Run self clean oven programme, clean racks - Done.

Properly clean hob - Done

This morning while wondering if my kitchen knife was sharp discovered it is when I sliced into my index finger. Strangely it doesn't hurt. But it is bundled up with plasters and is a good excuse for not doing any more for a while.
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
The attic room is finished! [Yipee] [Yipee] [Yipee] [Cool]

It looks fabulous. I am thrilled. The Ikea units are perfect (thank you for that suggestion Firenze).

The room looks so much bigger and more attractive now. I have more storage space than before. I can see at a glance where everything is. Also, strangely, I think I will be more motivated to do my dressmaking than before. The space seems easier to use. I am definitely going to decorate asap.

I am not a 'frilly' sort of person but I could put a curtain over the front of the shelves and that would hide the files. I'll have to think about that.

Also thinking of replacing the folding bed (which is functional but not attractive) with a sofa bed.

I'm not going to get another table yet. I'll see how the room works before I decide if I need one and if so what sort.

I wish I had done this a long time ago. It didn't take long once I'd started. Also, I have realised that the filing cabinets held a lot of unhappy memories and now the cabinets have gone I am not reminded of them.

Off to do some sewing.
 
Posted by Heavenly Anarchist (# 13313) on :
 
That sounds lovely Thyme [Smile]
Btw, your parcel has arrived safely - thank you.
 
Posted by rosamundi (# 2495) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nenya:
I like the idea of Lent resolutions as well - so much more constructive than giving things up. I'm going to give it some thought. Thanks, Mrs S. [Smile]

I like the Lent idea, too. I think it's partly about gratitude, for me. I have stuff I don't need and am resentful of because it's in the way and makes me feel guilty.

There's also stuff which was here when I moved in, which is blocking the shelves in the box room (a long, narrow storage room with shelves at the back, coat hooks, fuse box, &c). I have already been at it once, and got rid of most of the cardboard (I don't really think I need to keep the boxes for the computer before last), so I'm no longer in danger of being killed in the avalanche when I open the door.

I have got a few days off work coming up, so I have booked a man with a van to come and take some of the stuff away (a washing machine? Why is there a washing machine in there?!?) and bribed my brother (easily bribed, with beer and petrol money!) to come and get rid of some other stuff.

I will then be able to get at the shelving, and maybe put up some more shelving down one of the side walls, so the space will be more useful. I think a couple of these Ikea shelving units with some extra shelves will be perfect.
 
Posted by Sioni Sais (# 5713) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by rosamundi:


I will then be able to get at the shelving, and maybe put up some more shelving down one of the side walls, so the space will be more useful. I think a couple of these Ikea shelving units with some extra shelves will be perfect.

We have one and while it can hold a lot BEWARE! There are no sides, so you might need something to stop books etc falling out of it. We also have a couple of these which can hold two rows of paperbacks, which is OK if you can keep your books organised enough to find them subsequently.
 
Posted by Jack the Lass (# 3415) on :
 
I'm still slightly in denial about the Room of Doom (my study), but following a conversation with my boss last week I think I'm going to have to get really serious about writing, which means I'm going to have to have a decent writing space. I think I'm going to try to do a little bit daily, and see where that takes me.

Chive, how did Tuesday go? Hope it works out with your cleaner and you can feel less anxious about it as time goes on.
 
Posted by cross eyed bear (# 13977) on :
 
Sioni Sais
quote:
If you can keep your books organised enough to find them subsequently
I also have paperbacks in double rows, but have put old shoeboxes lengthwise along the back of the shelves to raise the back row to a higher level than the front row. It's a great use of space and means you can see enough of the spines of the back row to identify the book relatively quickly.

I've been a lurker to this thread, but you've had a great effect! I've sent books to online sellers/charity shops, my collection of old glasses (spectacles) to lunettes sans frontieres, sold stuff on ebay, sent broken electrical stuff to a recycling organisation, given duplicate kitchen stuff to a girl moving into a new flat, and the house is unusually organised. I'm putting off the paperwork, though...
 
Posted by Heavenly Anarchist (# 13313) on :
 
Well done Cross eyed bear [Smile]
No marking this week and I've got a few hours to spare so I'm going to have a decluttering week. The bedroom still has a few piles that need sorting since the big overhaul last September and I could do with tidying the cupboard I keep my OU work and studying materials in. Might do a book declutter too.
Really I need to completely clear out the sewing room/study but that might require a brave step too far!
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
Great stuff cross eyed bear.

Chive - I've been wondering how you got on as well. Hope it all went OK.

Heavenly Anarchist - glad the parcel arrived safely.
 
Posted by Barnabas Aus (# 15869) on :
 
Our decluttering proceeds slowly. My wife has now attacked her craft room, resulting in the hitherto narrow passage to her workspace being much enlarged, as items migrated from the floor to the redundant shelves transferred from other rooms, or even into the bin. She admitted to a friend a few days ago that she was a compulsive hoarder, the first time I've heard a public acknowledgement.

I have spent the last two days cleaning and restacking our pantry, courtesy of a marauding mouse. The result - lovely sparkling clean shelves, and the disposal of many small packets of stale foodstuffs which had managed to become hidden in back corners or on the top shelf.
 
Posted by Starbug (# 15917) on :
 
I cleared out the cupboard under the kitchen sink at the weekend. Several things went in the bin, including an old rusty wok. We're keeping the baking trays and a few other bits, but I now have a bag of mugs and glasses that will be donated to the local women's refuge, via one of our local councillors.
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
Great stuff everybody!

I've been decorating my bedroom, hence no access over the weekend - but at least the decluttering *should* be minimal. Having said that, there are about 42 feet of bookshelves (no, 14 shelves each 3 ft. wide - not a 42 ft. run of shelves!) which will require careful monitoring of the contents as they are replaced.

The room looks so much bigger without them, but there's nowhere else to put them and I can't do without them all. AND a blanket box absolutely FULL of photographs - I really mustn't just put them straight back, however tempting that might be [Confused]

In other news, the last of the eBay sales was collected by the courier yesterday, and you can put your feet down in the understairs cupboard [Yipee] for the first time in 21 years!

Mrs. S, emulsion on her glasses and gloss paint under her fingernails
 
Posted by Heavenly Anarchist (# 13313) on :
 
I sorted the work/study cupboard yesterday and my kitchen is looking much tidier for it. I also threw out a pile of sewing magazines and have ready about 50 books to recycle. Today I might start tackling the piles of miscellaneous items in the bedroom.
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
Yay to all of us!

(HA - any more of this and you'll need to change your name! [Big Grin] )

Mrs. S, snickering hound
 
Posted by rosamundi (# 2495) on :
 
The gas heaters and washing machine have gone! I have a usable box room! [Big Grin]

Now I just need to glom off to Ikea... [Frown]

Still, into every life a little rain must fall.
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by rosamundi:
The gas heaters and washing machine have gone! I have a usable box room! [Big Grin]

Now I just need to glom off to Ikea... [Frown]

Still, into every life a little rain must fall.

As this isn't the weight loss thread, you could reward yourself with Dime/Daim bar cake ...

The Envious Mrs. S!
 
Posted by Nenya (# 16427) on :
 
I asked at the local vets today whether they'd like our old pillows and duvets and the answer was in the negative. [Roll Eyes] I'll try the animal rescue place and if not it'll all have to be ditched.

I have a charity bag and plan to spend part of Saturday filling it with shoes and handbags and clothes. Will also be decluttering the books some more.

Nen - planning ahead. [Smile]
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nenya:
I asked at the local vets today whether they'd like our old pillows and duvets and the answer was in the negative. [Roll Eyes] I'll try the animal rescue place and if not it'll all have to be ditched.

I have a charity bag and plan to spend part of Saturday filling it with shoes and handbags and clothes. Will also be decluttering the books some more.

Nen - planning ahead. [Smile]

Nen - are there no local homeless shelters or similar?

Mrs. S, reluctant to see anything go to be ditched - hopefully not actually *in* a ditch...
 
Posted by Barnabas Aus (# 15869) on :
 
My daughter is visiting from another city for the weekend, and popped her head into our bedroom and said "Is the bed smaller, or is there just more space in here now?" Given that a bookshelf, a wonky shoe cupboard, set of drawers and valet stool have disappeared, you can imagine my answer.
 
Posted by rosamundi (# 2495) on :
 
The most excellent rosabrother came and went to the tip, with the contents of my box room in his possession.

I washed the shelves & steam mopped the floor, and put stuff on the shelves.

Then the nice man from Ikea came with two sets of shelves, so I put those together. 112 screws went in by hand, I want a power screwdriver. *Applies ice to wrist*.

Tomorrow I will start putting more things on the new shelves, I think I've done enough for today.
 
Posted by Golden Key (# 1468) on :
 
{Stocks thread pantry with first aid kit, remedies, comfort food, etc.}

Making some progress.
 
Posted by Nenya (# 16427) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Barnabas Aus:
My daughter is visiting from another city for the weekend, and popped her head into our bedroom and said "Is the bed smaller, or is there just more space in here now?" Given that a bookshelf, a wonky shoe cupboard, set of drawers and valet stool have disappeared, you can imagine my answer.

"Yes." [Smile]

Mrs S - I'll contact the local rescue places, but there isn't much homelessness round where I live... fortunately. The stuff won't be chucked if I can help it.

I did so well yesterday but today can't get my head round any proper sorting at all. [Roll Eyes]

Nen - boom and bust declutterer.
 
Posted by Rowen (# 1194) on :
 
I work from the manse, as the minister... Moved into it last May.
In the study.... I unpacked the books, but that was all. The rest of the room became the catch-all for everything, and I worked from the living room table.
Today, my houseguest and I went to work AND VOILA! Lovely, usable, clean, sorted study.
And a car full of rubbish went to the town's tip.
YAY!
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
SOMEONE - I suspect Wodders - has changed the name of this thread and it's NOT FAIR! [Mad]

*WE* aren't the hoarders - we may be ex-hoarders or on our 12-step way to becoming ex-hoarders - but we deserve a lot more credit than we're getting here!

Seriously, I find it impressive and very touching how people's lives have actually been changed (for the better!) by clearing out Stuff from their homes, and by extension, their lives.

Having done all the cooking I reasonably could on such a wet Sunday afternoon, I started on the blanket-box full of photographs and it is by far the hardest thing I've ever tried to declutter. Mercifully Mr. S does not want to digitise the entire archive (Heaven be praised!) but I am still wrestling with how they should be filed or arranged. I suppose I'll just keep plugging away at throwing out endless views of A Hillside in Crete, and maybe even some A Small Baby in a Blanket could go as well...

Mrs. S, hardening her heart [Devil]
 
Posted by Boogie (# 13538) on :
 
Am I a hoarder? Yes - by nature I am, but I fight that nature daily and feel MUCH better for it.

Yesterday I 'did out' under the sink (again) so friends can wash up at parties without everything falling out on them.

Next job - spare room wardrobe. It has been full of all sorts of junk for years. We now have a spare room as Boogielet2 moved out properly on Friday, not just to college or uni this time - to his first home.

[Smile]
 
Posted by Cottontail (# 12234) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Rowen:
I work from the manse, as the minister... Moved into it last May.
In the study.... I unpacked the books, but that was all. The rest of the room became the catch-all for everything, and I worked from the living room table.

Gulp. I'm moving into a Manse in two weeks time. I have boxes and boxes of papers needing sorted out. That is so going to be me.
[Waterworks]
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Boogie:
Next job - spare room wardrobe. It has been full of all sorts of junk for years. We now have a spare room as Boogielet2 moved out properly on Friday, not just to college or uni this time - to his first home.

[Smile]

Congratulations Boogie!

When Master S. finally *really* moved out it took Miss S and me three entire months to empty his room completely. [Eek!] It was so worth it though!

Mrs. S, looking back in relief!
 
Posted by Nenya (# 16427) on :
 
I hate being labelled a hoarder. [Mad] Real hoarders have binliners full of stuff in their baths and can't find their beds or their floors for rubbish.

I, meanwhile, have gaps on my bookshelves, a half filled charity bag and a tidy breakfast bar.

Nen - throwing her toys out of the pram, another way to declutter.
 
Posted by Rowen (# 1194) on :
 
I keep walking past my study door and going "Ahhhhh!" with delight.
H*** the mnse move mentioned above goes well.
 
Posted by Cottontail (# 12234) on :
 
Thanks for the good wishes, Rowen. It's going to be a chaotic week. But you give me h*o*p*e*. [Smile] (Because that word appears to be on the censors' list!)
 
Posted by Rowen (# 1194) on :
 
Now all the macro unpacking done, and I can move on to the micro.... Just did the medicine cabinet.
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Cottontail:
But you give me h*o*p*e*. [Smile]

Ain't that the truth! Reading about other people's successes is a great way to motivate yourself, I think.

Mrs. S, loving Nen's last status!
 
Posted by Belle Ringer (# 13379) on :
 
I'm realizing I can ditch the cookbooks. For a couple years now, if I want to cook something I look for a recipe on the web.
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
Well, we've all been vindicated - I read an article in the Telegraph saying that de-cluttering is definitely The Way To Success >>
Telegraph

so we look forward to untold success this year [Yipee]

Mrs. S, feeling smug!
 
Posted by Boogie (# 13538) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by The Intrepid Mrs S:
Well, we've all been vindicated - I read an article in the Telegraph saying that de-cluttering is definitely The Way To Success >>
Telegraph

so we look forward to untold success this year.

Mrs. S, feeling smug!

[Yipee]

I must say my experience is the opposite. Clutter = confused mind, not confused mind = clutter (if you see what I mean)

If my environment is uncluttered then I am able to relax and become more productive. If I'm living in clutter I'm distracted by it. (Partly because it shouts at me to clear it up!)

<edited because my :spin: wouldn't yipee!>

[ 18. February 2013, 11:03: Message edited by: Boogie ]
 
Posted by Belle Ringer (# 13379) on :
 
Finally realized my constant sense of mild frustration comes from the homeless woman's stuff overflowing my covered patio and cluttering my living room and hall. It's stressing my life. Friends say they'll help with a garage sale but in reality everyone's busy. Ads for individual items aren't getting responses.

I have termites, I have to get rid of the stuff now so the pest control folks can access the whole exterior of the house.

Saturday morning I'll haul what I can from behind the house to the front. I would start moving stuff today but it's supposed to rain. I'll take whatever anyone offers and take the rest to the women's shelter thrift shop and call a social worker friend to fetch the big stuff for someone she knows could use it.

Good thing about a garage sale of her stuff, I can throw some of my own stuff into it. Yea! Get.rid.of.stuff! Maybe get her some money. And get my patio back!
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Belle Ringer:
Finally realized my constant sense of mild frustration comes from the homeless woman's stuff overflowing my covered patio and cluttering my living room and hall. It's stressing my life. Friends say they'll help with a garage sale but in reality everyone's busy. Ads for individual items aren't getting responses.

I have termites, I have to get rid of the stuff now so the pest control folks can access the whole exterior of the house.

Saturday morning I'll haul what I can from behind the house to the front. I would start moving stuff today but it's supposed to rain. I'll take whatever anyone offers and take the rest to the women's shelter thrift shop and call a social worker friend to fetch the big stuff for someone she knows could use it.

Good thing about a garage sale of her stuff, I can throw some of my own stuff into it. Yea! Get.rid.of.stuff! Maybe get her some money. And get my patio back!

Good luck with that Belle [Overused] don't you find you feel better having made a plan - any plan?

Mrs. S, Proud Promulgator of Plans
 
Posted by Boogie (# 13538) on :
 
I have reached a plateaux - a bit like the diet!

So today I am going to throw everything to be decluttered on to the landing (my paint cupboard) to force me to get on with it!

[Smile]
 
Posted by Belle Ringer (# 13379) on :
 
Most friends I asked for help with the garage sale are busy (it's our life style), but one will come by for 20 minutes on her way to work to give me a potty break.

But then a neighbor said she needs money and will being her stuff and join me. Yea! Bigger is more attractive, two people is much better than one, and she said it's perfect timing for her. And the weather prediction still says clear tomorrow and Saturday. Looking good!

AND, half a day setting up, half a day selling, half a day cleaning up - is time not on line! Time outdoors! Needed changes in my life. Decluttering is healthy!
 
Posted by AmyBo (# 15040) on :
 
I managed to get Hubby to help with the spare room: removing the guitars (they now live in the remodeled basement), putting in a futon and new rug, painting 2 walls, getting rid of all the boxes of stuff we stuck in there to go through later, and getting rid of all the excess books overflowing the shelves.
The next day his mother broke her leg; now she's staying with us for 2 months. So either it's lucky we had all that done, or as a friend put it, it's a feng shui backfire.
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
AmyBo [Killing me] Sorry to laugh, hope mil is recovering well.

I have just donated nearly all my cassette tapes. I never listen to them and can find anything I might want on youtube.

Plus a couple more bits of clothing.

Next up - some video tapes. I never watch them. We still have a video recorder but my DH says it doesn't work with the new TV. I haven't been able to persuade him to dump the recorder. So I am not sure if it really won't work with a modern TV or if he can't work out how to do it but won't admit it. This has happened before [Roll Eyes]

[ 25. February 2013, 11:12: Message edited by: Thyme ]
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
My friend has taken up decluttering for Lent - she has heaps of paper about the place and wants to tidy them up (she lives alone, so no one to nag her about them!) Progress is being made in that she went through one heap - and then put it back! - but at least she now knows what's in the heap and has promised to Sort It Out on her day off, Friday.

Thyme - I recognise that feeling too!

Mrs S, remaining to be convinced [Killing me]
 
Posted by chive (# 208) on :
 
The cleaner is here for her first day (illness and my incompetence delayed things). She is currently completely gutting the bathroom (which needed it). And even better because she's here I've been motivated myself and cleared the table top, the drawers and the bureau in my living room.

I is so proud (and slightly smug at myself) but a long, long way to go yet.
 
Posted by Belle Ringer (# 13379) on :
 
Wow did I under estimate the time needed to do a garage sale!

Sale was Saturday 8 to noon. At 1 my friend and decided to go to lunch, having been up since 6 without a break. As we were pulling out a woman drove up - tables have all been pushed back to the house and blankets thrown over them and no one standing in the driveway but she's getting out of the car. What was she going to do, remove the blankets? We called to her "it ended an hour ago" and drove away exhausted, ignoring her protest.

Then the whole afternoon packing, sorting what to toss what to keep for another time. (?) Next day we both collapsed. Monday we were both short tempered from still being too tired. Add almost two days sorting and pricing before hand, it's a week of work! For about $80, not worth it.

But good to be outdoors for a day, meet lots of neighbors, there's value in that. My friend made about $70 and really needs the money, so does the homeless woman whose stuff I'm selling, so I guess it was worth while. It got rid of a lot of stuff! Yea!
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
Great work chive, congratulations.

Your homeless friend can't complain you didn't try Belle Ringer!
 
Posted by Cottontail (# 12234) on :
 
I've moved house now, and the main rooms - kitchen, living room and dining room - are pretty much sorted. But it is still chaos elsewhere, especially in my study. I need a filing cabinet NOW.

I also have boxes and boxes of old papers, going right back to undergraduate days. (My mother has quite rightly refused to store them anymore.) So I have resolved to clear one folder a day until it is done. Already I have unearthed an old school show programme signed by my then-pupils, that has brought back happy memories. Oh, and a weird poem that I seem to have written once.
 
Posted by Belle Ringer (# 13379) on :
 
Someone please talk me out of this.

In an on-line discussion group I lurk at, some people are talking about going to a conference about paleo diet and exercise, I'm not paleo but I am getting grains out of my diet so there's a lot in common. The conference is an hour or so from me and costs $200. I won't go at that price, but I could offer rustic accommodations (air bed on the floor, shared bath) - which would force me to do a LOT of cleaning before the end of this month, and would bring some interesting company into my life for a few days, while saving a few people several hundred dollars of hotel.

Tempting to do the invite, force myself to do the cleaning. Tempting to continue my relaxed way of life which doesn't generally include much of the long overdo cleaning.
 
Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :
 
Originally posted by Thyme:
quote:
Next up - some video tapes. I never watch them. We still have a video recorder but my DH says it doesn't work with the new TV. I haven't been able to persuade him to dump the recorder.
This is a bugbear in the NE household. Our video started to go a bit funny about 3 years ago. So the North East Man decided that we'd stop using it to watch videos, and would use it solely to transfer our videos onto DVD. When he had the time. Except that he hasn't had the time at any point in the intervening 3 years. So we have a bookcase full of videos which we haven't watched in 3 years, but which have to stay because I'm the only one who is happy to bin them (local charity shops are no longer accepting videos). And we have a teetering pile of DVDs next to the TV, which can't get put away, because the shelves are full of redundant videos....

As I'm the one who dusts and hoovers round the stuff, I'm the one who's most inconvenienced, but, alas, this doesn't give me extra voting rights on what should happen. Sigh.
 
Posted by Jengie Jon (# 273) on :
 
Hmm the ministers rouse time. Based on the the story of the minister who wanted rid of the church hymn book, so took one or two home each week. Each time you dust and clean you throw out one video.

You can decide whether you tell North East Man this or not.

Jengie
 
Posted by daisydaisy (# 12167) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Belle Ringer:
Someone please talk me out of this.

.... which would force me to do a LOT of cleaning before the end of this month, and would bring some interesting company into my life for a few days, while saving a few people several hundred dollars of hotel.

Tempting to do the invite, force myself to do the cleaning. Tempting to continue my relaxed way of life which doesn't generally include much of the long overdo cleaning.

Nope I'm not going to talk you out of this - it sounds a great double-incentive: more of your home clear and clean PLUS interesting company. Not to mention enabling folk to get to this conference.
 
Posted by comet (# 10353) on :
 
help!* my house is a complete dump. and I am moving in 3 months, so I have all the reason in the world to get rid of EVERYTHING. but it's overwhelming. where the hell do I start? ACK!

*not really asking for help. just sharing.
 
Posted by Moo (# 107) on :
 
When I was getting ready to move from New Hampshire back to Virginia, I had to deal with a twenty-year accumulation of stuff by four pack-rats.

There were two mental images that kept occurring to me. One was a cartoon of a boy in a classroom with his hand raised. He is saying, "Mr. Osborn, may I be excused? My brain is full."

The other was from a Dick Francis detective story. An actor in a play wanted the protagonist to give some ideas to the director whose name was Zak. The protagonist replied that maybe the director didn't want any advice. At this point the director came along and said, "At this point Zak is taking suggestions from chimpanzees."

If there had been a chimpanzee around, I would have been tempted to ask for advice.

Moo
 
Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by comet:
help!* my house is a complete dump. and I am moving in 3 months, so I have all the reason in the world to get rid of EVERYTHING. but it's overwhelming. where the hell do I start? ACK!

*not really asking for help. just sharing.

You need a visitor who has been in declutter mode for years.

Me, for instance. 3 years ago, I started thinking about how my survivors would deal with my home
- so I decided to make it easy for them.

Invite me - I am not sentimental and am a pitbull.
 
Posted by ecumaniac (# 376) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by comet:
help!* my house is a complete dump. and I am moving in 3 months, so I have all the reason in the world to get rid of EVERYTHING. but it's overwhelming. where the hell do I start? ACK!

*not really asking for help. just sharing.

Start by eating everything in your freezer.
 
Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jengie Jon:
Hmm the ministers rouse time. Based on the the story of the minister who wanted rid of the church hymn book, so took one or two home each week. Each time you dust and clean you throw out one video.

You can decide whether you tell North East Man this or not.

Jengie

The snag, if he noticed after, say 10, or 20, or 30, or 40 had gone, it would be obvious that I'd got rid of them, because I'm the only person in the house who is annoyed that we're wasting shelf space on videos we will never watch again, and whose sole function is to gather dust. Even if we ever did find the time to copy them onto DVD I doubt we'd watch them. Some are Disney videos which my husband wants to "save for the grandchildren." But we are still, I assume, a decade away from grandparenthood, and if videos are obsolete now, I can't imagine they'll have come back into use in the 2020s.
 
Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :
 
And on a cheery note, I have dealt with all the piles of paper round the house which are likely to get swept into our study/bedroom when we tidy for visitors.

In the study/bedroom itself, the "extra" stuff is in one cardboard box, three 24 litre stacking plastic boxes and a large carrier bag. All I need to do now is clear space in assorted files and shelves, put the contents of the boxes and bag away and, for the first time since we moved in 2003, we will have a tidy study/ spare bedroom!

I can do this!
 
Posted by comet (# 10353) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by PeteC:
quote:
Originally posted by comet:
help!* my house is a complete dump. and I am moving in 3 months, so I have all the reason in the world to get rid of EVERYTHING. but it's overwhelming. where the hell do I start? ACK!

*not really asking for help. just sharing.

You need a visitor who has been in declutter mode for years.

Me, for instance. 3 years ago, I started thinking about how my survivors would deal with my home
- so I decided to make it easy for them.

Invite me - I am not sentimental and am a pitbull.

c'mon over, Uncle Pete! I need you!
 
Posted by Sioni Sais (# 5713) on :
 
Pete's got a point.

When you are asking for help do not ask a friend. They will be far too kind. My m-i-l used to say "Get an enemy to prune your roses" and I reckon the same applies to decluttering.

Mind you if any enemy of mine (and not a few friends) tried to declutter my bookshelves they would end up on the floor with a chalk outline around them, but they could declutter my wardrobe all they liked.
 
Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :
 
WTAF? I've just found a copy of the Daily Mail's Disco Greats in my study? And a single baby sock.
This decluttering is way overdue.
 
Posted by Lamb Chopped (# 5528) on :
 
How old is that baby now? [Big Grin]
 
Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :
 
It might be my niece's - she's 5. It can't belong to either of mine, as they were at school when we moved into this house.

I've also found a mystery CD of photos of my neighbours' children and my neighbour's back garden, which looks to have been taken 7 or 8 years ago. How did I acquire that?
 
Posted by ecumaniac (# 376) on :
 
For Comet and any other Shipmates moving house:

http://unclutterer.com/2011/02/28/moving-how-to-pack-your-home/
 
Posted by Barnabas Aus (# 15869) on :
 
North East Quine wrote
quote:
All I need to do now is clear space in assorted files and shelves, put the contents of the boxes and bag away and, for the first time since we moved in 2003, we will have a tidy study/ spare bedroom!
You're way ahead of us NEQ, it's 24 years since we moved, and I got my study organised properly just in time for Christmas 2012.
 
Posted by comet (# 10353) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ecumaniac:
For Comet and any other Shipmates moving house:

http://unclutterer.com/2011/02/28/moving-how-to-pack-your-home/

those are excellent tips, thank you!
 
Posted by chive (# 208) on :
 
This week with the cleaners help I managed to send four boxes of books to the charity shop and throw out eight bags of rubbish to the tip. I've also ordered a filing cabinet to sort out all my papers.

This is all going remarkably well and I've not had any really emotional reaction to getting rid of things which I'm chuffed about.
 
Posted by Golden Key (# 1468) on :
 
Yay, Chive!!! [Smile]

I'm slowly getting rid of more stuff. [Smile]
 
Posted by ecumaniac (# 376) on :
 
Good luck, Comet!

I've moved once a year for the 4 years I've lived here. I cannot imagine having to move after living in a place for a long time!
 
Posted by chive (# 208) on :
 
My new filing cabinet and files arrived today so on my next day off I'm going to sort out the paper work which lives in small piles all over the house.

This is going quite well. [Smile]
 
Posted by Belle Ringer (# 13379) on :
 
Post garage sale clutter. The friend who did the garage sale with me left her leftover stuff at my house "for a day or two" because we were both tired and her stuff is heavy, like cartons of LPs and CDs.

A "day or two" is now two weeks. She's "busy."

Meanwhile, the yard man has taken to storing some of his stuff on my patio, saying it will be stolen from his yard.

Sigh. I'm quite capable of being cluttered on my own, I don't need help!
 
Posted by chive (# 208) on :
 
Despite my cleaner being snowed off today I have made inroads to the huge pile of mess on the coffee table. All that is left now is my phones, remote control and a small torch.

Smug feelings are rising. I hope it doesn't all go wrong soon.
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by chive:
Despite my cleaner being snowed off today I have made inroads to the huge pile of mess on the coffee table. All that is left now is my phones, remote control and a small torch.

Smug feelings are rising. I hope it doesn't all go wrong soon.

Well done Chive - that should encourage you no end!

My children bought me flowers for Mothering Sunday, on the basis that I'd spent all summer throwing Stuff out and didn't want to start accumulating again.

Mrs. S - they know me so well!
 
Posted by Beethoven (# 114) on :
 
(Sneaking back onboard the Ship after some absence...)
quote:
Originally posted by North East Quine:
The snag, if he noticed after, say 10, or 20, or 30, or 40 had gone, it would be obvious that I'd got rid of them, because I'm the only person in the house who is annoyed that we're wasting shelf space on videos we will never watch again, and whose sole function is to gather dust. Even if we ever did find the time to copy them onto DVD I doubt we'd watch them. Some are Disney videos which my husband wants to "save for the grandchildren." But we are still, I assume, a decade away from grandparenthood, and if videos are obsolete now, I can't imagine they'll have come back into use in the 2020s.

But they at least will be easy to replace should you ever feel the need. The good Disney stuff will always be available. And in 10 years' time, who knows if DVDs will still be the way to go. Get rid, and use the shelf space for things you want now and for the next however many years! [Biased]

I recently managed to declutter the dining table, by dint of bagging up Mr B's work books and taking them over to his office for him... It's not entirely cleared yet, but that's laziness on my part now rather than his clutter. And the living room has stayed much better since the table got moved out to make space for the Christmas tree. The tree is long gone, but the table and chairs are still in the garage. Part of me wants it back for when we're eating in the living room (i.e. most evenings!), but mostly I think if it came back in, it'd get buried under Mr's books and work papers again, and still wouldn't be useable by the rest of us. Hmmm...
 
Posted by daisydaisy (# 12167) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Belle Ringer:
Post garage sale clutter. The friend who did the garage sale with me left her leftover stuff at my house "for a day or two" because we were both tired and her stuff is heavy, like cartons of LPs and CDs.

A "day or two" is now two weeks. She's "busy."

Meanwhile, the yard man has taken to storing some of his stuff on my patio, saying it will be stolen from his yard.

Sigh. I'm quite capable of being cluttered on my own, I don't need help!

Have you considered putting up a list of your space rental rates?
[Biased] [Biased] [Biased]
 
Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :
 
I have poured the bottle of Malibu which I bought in 1985 down the sink. I have no idea why I didn't do so years ago. I tried to suggest to the North East Man that a bottle of Bacardi, 2/3 full, bought in 1989 might equally well go, but he thinks someone might still want to drink it at some point. I said I was fed up dusting bottles of alcohol which no-one wants to drink. Daughter suggested that that problem was easily solved - stop cleaning. She thinks cobwebby bottles would have a certain charm, and that an inch of dust would give our kitchen a "pirattey ambience."

[brick wall]
[Waterworks]

At least the study decluttering is progressing, albeit slowly.
 
Posted by Heavenly Anarchist (# 13313) on :
 
I decluttered our drinks cupboard yesterday ( this was following a 'mouse drama' behind the cupboard earlier in the day, mouse is now no more). I'm using some old bottles of whiskey and rum to make fruit liqueurs [Smile]
 
Posted by Heavenly Anarchist (# 13313) on :
 
Following on from my last post, I cleared out under the stairs yesterday, throwing out loads of old shoes, some mine but mostly children's, and rehousing others. I now have space for my preserves there and for the winemaking I'm doing later this week.
Today I need to tackle the bedroom, piles are beginning to gather on surfaces......
 
Posted by Boogie (# 13538) on :
 
You have inspired me Heavenly Anarchist. I am off to re-declutter my study which has re-cluttered very quickly (How does that happen??)

[Confused] [Hot and Hormonal]
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
I swear it's the house elves - they come into my study at night and pile stuff on the desks!
 
Posted by Moo (# 107) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Welease Woderwick:
I swear it's the house elves - they come into my study at night and pile stuff on the desks!

Yes, and then they insinuate it into my mind that I put that stuff there. [Frown]

Moo
 
Posted by daisydaisy (# 12167) on :
 
Following a few close shaves I've been sensible and moved heavy, breakable dishes from the top shelf to a lower one where I kept my store of spices, and now that I can't eat such spicy food I've decluttered those as well as some of the dishes that I've not used for many, many years. Now I can give my teapots and jugs (hmmm - candidates themselves for decluttering) more space. It feels good.
 
Posted by Golden Key (# 1468) on :
 
I found a good article from Unclutterer.com: "Fight back! Turn the tables on clutter."

Good ideas about all those things that pile up in nooks and crannies when you're too tired to put stuff away.

That's a big one for me, due to chronic health problems.
 
Posted by Barnabas Aus (# 15869) on :
 
My son came to our place today to give us a hand with our rumpus room and storage room, which have been crammed with stuff left behind by him and his siblings or moved out of other places about the house while renovations are in progress.

Three hours work later, two carloads of junk to the dump, half a load of his possessions into his car to go home, and my wife's multitudinous containers of craft supplies and winter clothing neatly stacked in the storage room.

This means that my model railway, which has been inacessible for many a month, is now freed from its prison and I can get some ejoyment from it once more.

Now, if only I can get my wife to do something about the dozens of my daughter's ballet costumes still inhabiting various old wardrobes downstairs.......
 
Posted by Boogie (# 13538) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Golden Key:
I found a good article from Unclutterer.com: "Fight back! Turn the tables on clutter."

Good ideas about all those things that pile up in nooks and crannies when you're too tired to put stuff away.

Thanks - I will peruse it [Smile]
 
Posted by Boogie (# 13538) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Golden Key:
I found a good article from Unclutterer.com: "Fight back! Turn the tables on clutter."

I've joined [Yipee]

My name there?

Boogie - of course!
 
Posted by Ethne Alba (# 5804) on :
 
Books, shoes, clothes, paper, logs, bricks,....Gone

Rags, cassettes (shhhh!), files and comentaries....relocated

(phew)
 
Posted by JoannaP (# 4493) on :
 
My efforts seem quite minor in comparison to some here but I have taken a bag of my grandmother's blouses to a charity shop. I just do not have the hanging space for things I am never going to be able to get into and enough time has passed since her death for me to be able to pass them on.
 
Posted by Japes (# 5358) on :
 
I've been tackling the ever-increasing list of "Things I must get around to sometime". All ridiculous, little jobs, taking at most five minutes.

So, the bills finally got moved into their brand-new file, three piles of books were put away on the shelves, the four items queued up for mending with superglue are done, the brooms and toilet brushes have been cleaned, the filter from the vacuum cleaner has been washed, the drains had their dose of soda crystals, the lampshades have been dusted, the paper has been shredded, the psalm sheets have been sorted out...

I even went to church to re-file the psalm sheets, and tackled one of the music filing cabinet drawers. As a reward I've found a spare copy of a book I thought we only had one of, so I've brought it home, rather than bringing what I thought was the One and Only copy and risking losing it! Trust me, if it's been hidden in that filing cabinet for as long as I think it has, no-one will miss it!

I feel amazingly de-cluttered as a result, yet there doesn't look to be much visible difference!
 
Posted by Boogie (# 13538) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Boogie:
quote:
Originally posted by Golden Key:
I found a good article from Unclutterer.com: "Fight back! Turn the tables on clutter."

I've joined

My name there?

Boogie - of course!

Hmmm - I have been there a few days but I'm not too impressed, the site very quiet and full of spam.

Never mind - the decluttering continues apace!

Today I did the medicine cabinet [Smile]
 
Posted by Eigon (# 4917) on :
 
Yay, me!
I noticed how dirty my shelf unit in the bathroom was, so I thought I'd haul it out of the corner and have a really good clean - and while I was at it, there's a cupboard in there that is full of cardboard boxes that "just might come in handy".
So I filled six black sacks with the cardboard boxes, and a recycling sack of the pile of envelopes (even though there's nothing wrong with them and they could totally be used again - I'm never going to use them), and I threw out the dog's flea powder (the dog died over a year ago), and the toothpaste I tried once but it tasted horrible.
So now I have a huge empty cupboard to store other stuff in, and my bathroom looks clean and roomy again! [Yipee]
 
Posted by Pigwidgeon (# 10192) on :
 
I've got three boxes and a large bag ready to take to the church rummage sale this week -- I'm going to try to add to that in the next few days. Next weekend our city is having a "Reduce, reuse, repurpose, recycle" day, so I'm scrubbing the drive on my old computer and getting that ready to take, as well as dead batteries, lightbulbs, old sneakers, and whatever else I can get together.
 
Posted by Eigon (# 4917) on :
 
Our local car boot sales have started up again, too - the first one of the season was this morning. So I'm collecting a few bits and pieces together. I don't have a car - I have a shopping trolley and a rucksack (but it's only a short walk up the hill), and the lady in charge said she wouldn't charge me the full fiver for a pitch if I didn't come in a vehicle!
 
Posted by daisydaisy (# 12167) on :
 
This afternoon I cleared out all the "might be needed one day" cardboard boxes from the roofspace and it looks a whole lot better up there now.
This was triggered by a request from an aunt for a photo of her father which she thought I would have with my mother's paperwork.
Which made me wonder just how long after someone has died does their paperwork need to be kept? I even have her mother's paperwork.
 
Posted by chive (# 208) on :
 
Update on the house. It's done. It's clean. It's shiny. There is no crap anywhere (apart from some books that will be picked up by a second hand bookshop in a couple of weeks). I come in my front door from work and smile at the space. It's amazing how spacious a small house looks when all the crap has gone. I've even got into the habit of tidying up everything when I've used it as opposed to a decade later!

I have to say my cleaner has been amazing. The perfect mixture of hardworking, pleasant and encouraging. If anyone in the Kent area needs a cleaner she is definitely the one for you!

I am genuinely so pleased and so grateful for your support that I could cry.
 
Posted by chive (# 208) on :
 
Just to add, my priest is coming round some time after I get back from my holidays to bless my newly lovely house which is the most brilliant thing ever. [Yipee]
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
quote:
I am genuinely so pleased and so grateful for your support that I could cry.
Aw shucks [Hot and Hormonal] that's so nice of you!

But it's just lovely to have a clean and uncluttered house - and so much easier to keep that way! Well done you, chive! [Yipee]

Mrs. S, evangelist of encouragement [Angel]
 
Posted by Heavenly Anarchist (# 13313) on :
 
That all sounds wonderful chive [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Nenya (# 16427) on :
 
Congratulations, chive. [Yipee] A few bits of my house have that clear uncluttered look and I know what a wonderful feeling it is to look at them.

Even at this moment I have the contents of a drawer emptied onto my bed for sorting.

Which is why I'm on here, naturally.

Nen - procrastinator.
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
Fabulous news chive. I am so happy for you. A wonderful achievement.

In other news I have decluttered the video machine to the tip. And took the videos to the charity shop. Not without a pang as I still haven't watched them...

Turned out the charity shop didn't want them so I donated them into the nearest litter bin outside the shop.
 
Posted by daisydaisy (# 12167) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by chive:
Just to add, my priest is coming round some time after I get back from my holidays to bless my newly lovely house which is the most brilliant thing ever. [Yipee]

What a great idea. Well done Chive.

My recent uncluttering efforts will not be so noticeable - I've unsubscribed from masses of junk emails, and continued to remove a box from the roof space each time I go up there. I'm beginning to get a clearer looking inbox and roofspace. Nice.
 
Posted by Kasra (# 10631) on :
 
I have to pack. I'm moving in with the man, which is good... but oh, dear, how I hate packing!
Wine and strong-minded girlfriends are getting me through so far... also thinking about ecumaniac's link from upthread.

Help!

Kx
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
quote:
Even at this moment I have the contents of a drawer emptied onto my bed for sorting. Which is why I'm on here, naturally.
Jump to it, Nen - you know you want to [Biased]

And with a respectful nod to Malik3000 on the Prayer thread - clutter begone!

Mrs. S, plagiarising [Two face]
 
Posted by Eigon (# 4917) on :
 
A leg fell off my wooden sewing box, which also has a dodgy hinge on the lid, so I decided it Had To Go.
At first I was going to donate it to my neighbour as kindling (or Morning Wood, as they call it locally), but now I've had a brainwave - the drawers are deep enough to fill with soil and put small plants in, and it will look quite decorative outside the front door (as long as I prop up the corner where the leg fell off!). So I shall be off to buy some flowering plants shortly.
 
Posted by daisydaisy (# 12167) on :
 
Another box removed from the roofspace and emptied. One more down, so many more to go, but it is happening.
 
Posted by daisydaisy (# 12167) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Eigon:
A leg fell off my wooden sewing box, which also has a dodgy hinge on the lid, so I decided it Had To Go.
At first I was going to donate it to my neighbour as kindling (or Morning Wood, as they call it locally), but now I've had a brainwave - the drawers are deep enough to fill with soil and put small plants in, and it will look quite decorative outside the front door (as long as I prop up the corner where the leg fell off!). So I shall be off to buy some flowering plants shortly.

That should be really pretty - what a good idea
 
Posted by Boogie (# 13538) on :
 
I watched another hoarder programme this week. It was a school teacher with 35 years worth of school clutter. That thought 'I may need it one day' is very strong regarding teaching materials!

Now that rang a bell! So this week I've been being ruthless. If I haven't used it in 3 years it has been binned/given/recycled. 90% of the resources I use are online now anyway.

I now have shelves with accessible stuff that I USE! Hurrah!

[Yipee]
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
I really must do something about my desk - I thought of posting a photo of it on Flickr but really I would be too ashamed [Hot and Hormonal]
 
Posted by Boogie (# 13538) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Welease Woderwick:
I really must do something about my desk - I thought of posting a photo of it on Flickr but really I would be too ashamed [Hot and Hormonal]

Take a photo / save it / do a declutter / post a before-and-after piccy.


[Big Grin]
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
Good idea!

Before piccy taken but it might be months or years before I get round to an after piccy.
 
Posted by Boogie (# 13538) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Welease Woderwick:
Good idea!

Before piccy taken but it might be months or years before I get round to an after piccy.

What kind of commitment is that ? [Biased]
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
Erm, MY kind?

[Cool]

[Biased]


eta: you have to realise that some of this stuff hasn't seen light of day since Paloeolithic times.

[ 28. April 2013, 09:32: Message edited by: Welease Woderwick ]
 
Posted by Ethne Alba (# 5804) on :
 
nothing like having a boomeranging young adult back in the home to sort the de cluttering

~no church this morning, we're still recovering!~

[ 28. April 2013, 12:27: Message edited by: Ethne Alba ]
 
Posted by Boogie (# 13538) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ethne Alba:
nothing like having a boomeranging young adult back in the home to sort the de cluttering

erk!!
 
Posted by Taliesin (# 14017) on :
 
Yeah...

My mother was suddenly ill and rushed to hospital. She didn't want to go home, because of all the messa and clutter. So the siblings and I went in with a 'shovel and bags' mentality and carted a load of it away, to be stored.

She is now home, and asking for bits back (and thank God we identified the stuff in genuine use and had it at the front) which we bring her.

She feels much better. [Smile]
 
Posted by Pigwidgeon (# 10192) on :
 
Upcoming renovations mean I have to clean out my storeroom -- I finally found a home for boxes and boxes of leftover inventory from a deceased business (more involved than I care to go into now). So... I spent the day organizing all of that to get ready for delivery. I hope to finish up tomorrow. Yesterday I had to clean out a small shed, so that some of the other stuff in the storeroom can be moved into that.

I'm exhausted -- but really feel I've accomplished something! (But there's still a long way to go...)
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
Not as dramatic as some others' posts, but I dipped out of band practice last night and sorted out all the T-shirts that I normally put on and think, gosh that's too big/gone baggy or whatever, but keep on wearing and washing ad nauseam . Also my Very Favourite pair of blue trousers that won't actually stay up and are far too complicated to alter ... all gone to the Clothes Bank [Big Grin]

Nearly had to declutter my ancient and much-beloved Frister & Rossman sewing machine, lugged home ON THE TUBE about 40 years ago from Gamage's closing-down sale, believe it or not. The lead, as I unplugged it from taking up another pair of trousers, emitted a very satisfying blue flash and blew (blue?) various fuses [Confused] Luckily The Intrepid Mr. S dismantled the lead and restored it to life - what a star! [Axe murder]

Mrs. S, hair still standing on end [Ultra confused]
 
Posted by Golden Key (# 1468) on :
 
Am making progress.
 
Posted by Boogie (# 13538) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by The Intrepid Mrs S:
Not as dramatic as some others' posts, but I dipped out of band practice last night and sorted out all the T-shirts that I normally put on and think, gosh that's too big/gone baggy or whatever, but keep on wearing and washing ad nauseam .

I have started making dusters out of mine. No more washing dusters, I just throw them away when used.

[Smile]
 
Posted by Firenze (# 619) on :
 
A rag rug is a good way of using up old clothes. I put about 20 T-shirts into one, but they seem to have crept up again...
 
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on :
 
I'm not one to talk my desk is a disgrace and has layer upon layer of stuff that has now spread onto piles on the floor and I just can't bring myself to deal with it but I'm feeling so much better reading this thread (It's a form of denial, I don't have a problem like those people over there [Biased] )

quote:
A rag rug is a good way of using up old clothes. I put about 20 T-shirts into one, but they seem to have crept up again...
Isn't a rug made of old t-shirts just clutter transformed into... even less useful clutter than before??? Does anyone really need a rag rug?
 
Posted by Boogie (# 13538) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Evangeline:
Isn't a rug made of old t-shirts just clutter transformed into... even less useful clutter than before??? Does anyone really need a rag rug?

My niece makes lovely rag rugs - they look great in her farm cottage. I had a go once, it hurts the hands!
 
Posted by Heavenly Anarchist (# 13313) on :
 
I'm turning my sons' tees into a blanket [Smile]
 
Posted by Eigon (# 4917) on :
 
I wonder why making a rag rug hurt your hands, Boogie? I've made rag rugs by two different methods - one with a sort of pair of scissors that you stick through the sacking and pull your 3" length of cloth through to make a tuft 1 1/2" long each side, and one done with the sacking stretched on a frame with a tool to push long lengths of cloth into the backing. There's another method with a rug hook which I haven't tried. I've made several rugs over the years, one of them a portrait of my dog running. They use tons of fabric and wear well, and look attractive - and I don't remember ever hurting my hands doing it.
 
Posted by Boogie (# 13538) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Eigon:
I wonder why making a rag rug hurt your hands, Boogie?

To be fair, it's because of my Arthur-itis.

[Smile]
 
Posted by Firenze (# 619) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Evangeline:
Isn't a rug made of old t-shirts just clutter transformed into... even less useful clutter than before??? Does anyone really need a rag rug?

I dare say you have a more decoratively coherent home than I do. It amused me to make it and I enjoy stepping out on to it each morning. Some day I can bin it with the feeling that I got my money's worth.

But I am an inveterate recycler.
 
Posted by Mrs Shrew (# 8635) on :
 
Mr Shrew has gone out to the pub for the evening so I am taking the opportunity to tackle filing...
 
Posted by Belle Ringer (# 13379) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Boogie:
So this week I've been being ruthless. If I haven't used it in 3 years it has been binned/given/recycled. 90% of the resources I use are online now anyway.

I have my bookshelves in the living room because I'm always into the books - but recently I realized I haven't looked at any of my books in - years? If I want to know something I go on line.

That awareness startled me, but it sure suggests I can ditch a lot of books. Maybe a bookshelf too?

I guess most of the cookbooks ought to go. If I want a recipe I go on line.
 
Posted by Pigwidgeon (# 10192) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Pigwidgeon:
Upcoming renovations mean I have to clean out my storeroom -- I finally found a home for boxes and boxes of leftover inventory from a deceased business (more involved than I care to go into now). ...

A friend with a larger vehicle than mine just helped me deliver 15 large boxes to an organization that can put this stuff to good use! I feel so liberated,as if a huge weight has been lifted!

[Yipee] [Yipee] [Yipee]
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Pigwidgeon:
quote:
Originally posted by Pigwidgeon:
Upcoming renovations mean I have to clean out my storeroom -- I finally found a home for boxes and boxes of leftover inventory from a deceased business (more involved than I care to go into now). ...

A friend with a larger vehicle than mine just helped me deliver 15 large boxes to an organization that can put this stuff to good use! I feel so liberated,as if a huge weight has been lifted!

[Yipee] [Yipee] [Yipee]

Yippee indeed - well done Pigwidgeon, and that's a very special feeling of liberation you got there.

I've got to the stage where, under stress, I start looking around for things to throw away - not AT anyone, just AWAY!

Mrs. S, feeling pretty libersated these days
[Smile]
 
Posted by Ethne Alba (# 5804) on :
 
[Anyone who has bought a rug (BOUGHT!)...could do with making a rag rug. They're lovely things.]

On another matter.....the files are being emptied, our blue paper recycling bin is filling up and spaces are appearing in the bookshelves.
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ethne Alba:
... and spaces are appearing in the bookshelves.

My problem is that I always see this as an excuse to have a day in the bookshops!
 
Posted by L'organist (# 17338) on :
 
Yippee!

After nearly a year of searching I've found me an adult's version of Mrs Doubtfire. Tracking down this paragon took 6 months because everyone (Macmillan, CAB, hospice, CRUSE, etc) thought such people existed but didn't know where or how to find.

She's now helping me go through the 30 cubic metres of administrative chaos bequeathed by my dear departed - getting through the first lot reduced me to such a state my GP said I was displaying symptoms of PTSD

Quite apart from anything else, she's found 11 unpresented cheques [Eek!] so we're now busy writing to former clients, etc, to see if they'll reissue...
 
Posted by Pigwidgeon (# 10192) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Welease Woderwick:
My problem is that I always see this as an excuse to have a day in the bookshops!

You need an excuse?
[Eek!]
 
Posted by Ethne Alba (# 5804) on :
 
[in the interests of honesty: i HAD visited a second hand bookshop two weeks previously...
......maybe i'd forgotten exactly why i needed space.....i now need to make More space.....grrrrr.....}
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Pigwidgeon:
quote:
Originally posted by Welease Woderwick:
My problem is that I always see this as an excuse to have a day in the bookshops!

You need an excuse?
[Eek!]

Nah, I just need a spare few minutes or, preferably, an hour or two.
 
Posted by Golden Key (# 1468) on :
 
More progress. [Smile]
 
Posted by L'organist (# 17338) on :
 
"Mrs Doubtfire" is wonderful - organised and methodical and just getting on with it.

And the best thing is that all the dreck means I can have a bonfire... [Smile]
 
Posted by Boogie (# 13538) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by L'organist:
"Mrs Doubtfire" is wonderful - organised and methodical and just getting on with it.

Excellent [Smile]
 
Posted by Golden Key (# 1468) on :
 
Dealing with a "major cleaning before workers come in for major repairs" situation. Workers should be here early next week. Nervous, and unwell (for other reasons), and did I say nervous?
 
Posted by Golden Key (# 1468) on :
 
I got through it, and the repairs are done! [Smile]
 
Posted by L'organist (# 17338) on :
 
For "bonfire" mentioned earlier read "garden incinerator": lit it just before 2pm on Tuesday - finally extinguished by torrential rain just after 8pm Thursday [Eek!]

Mrs D has now completed the first pass through - now just to get the stuff we've kept into some kind of order.

And I finally got rid of a rocking chair I've hated since 1993 [Yipee]
 
Posted by Avila (# 15541) on :
 
I dared let my friends in to see the chaos in its natural state, (normally I relocate junk from the living room and close all other doors). They came back this week and zapped some of it. I have a craft room i can do stuff in so don't need to take it elsewhere and then it gets left there etc.

It feels like my brain has been tidied a little bit too.
 
Posted by Eigon (# 4917) on :
 
I joined my next door neighbour in a table sale this afternoon and got rid of a rug that's been sitting rolled up at the back of the bathroom for a couple of years. I got £5 for it, which is pretty good considering I first got it when someone further down the street had left it out for the bin men!
(It's a good rug - I just don't have room for it any more)
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
Congraulations everyone.

quote:
Originally posted by Avila:
It feels like my brain has been tidied a little bit too.

I know what you mean. I can't think properly when everything is in a mess.

I'm feeling a bit flat after the big attic clean out. I think there is more to do but I'm not sure what. Surely I can't be finished? [Eek!]

I need to sort out my socks. Seriously. The little drawer is crammed full and I can never find a matching pair in the right colour. Every day it annoys me. Maybe if I do that it will clear my mind.
 
Posted by Boogie (# 13538) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Thyme:

I need to sort out my socks. Seriously. The little drawer is crammed full and I can never find a matching pair in the right colour. Every day it annoys me. Maybe if I do that it will clear my mind.

I recently had a sock sort - I keep the odd, holey, ancient ones for one-off throw away dusters.

[Smile]
 
Posted by comet (# 10353) on :
 
I'm in the midst of moving, and it's done great things for my decluttering.

Here's the deal- we don't have movers outside of the urban areas, and the do-it-yourself moving vans are prohibitively expensive. So we bought a trailer- the size we'd fit one single snowmachine into. It has 2ft walls, no roof. And my life has to fit into this thing. It's a 2-3 day drive, partly through a corner of Canada, so more than one trip is not possible.

This has caused me to switch my thinking around from "what can I bear to part with?" to "what absolutely HAS to go with me?"

I've reduced my entire wardrobe by 2/3rds (including stagewear and costuming) and officially donated enough books to the library that they asked me to stop. We have given four full sized truck loads to the local charity shop and taken 4 truckloads to the dump. I have also given away a good portion of my belongings via facebook. No yard sale, just unload.

It's been difficult, but it feels very FREE!
 
Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on :
 
So, Comet, you didn't need me - [Tear]
 
Posted by comet (# 10353) on :
 
I always need you!

Shall I fedex you these matresses? [Biased]
 
Posted by Pigwidgeon (# 10192) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Pigwidgeon:
quote:
Originally posted by Pigwidgeon:
Upcoming renovations mean I have to clean out my storeroom -- I finally found a home for boxes and boxes of leftover inventory from a deceased business (more involved than I care to go into now). ...

A friend with a larger vehicle than mine just helped me deliver 15 large boxes to an organization that can put this stuff to good use! I feel so liberated,as if a huge weight has been lifted!

I got the last of all the miscellaneous "stuff" out of there yesterday, and the renovations began this morning! [Yipee]
 
Posted by Mrs Shrew (# 8635) on :
 
Well done Pigwidgeon, and best of luck with the move Comet
 
Posted by Nenya (# 16427) on :
 
Mr Nen took a carload of stuff to the community recycling place this morning. Two computers. Two monitors. Two televisions. Two radios. All from the loft. I never realised there was so much stuff up there... I must have known about it once, but forgotten...

Nen - still shellshocked. [Eek!]
 
Posted by Eigon (# 4917) on :
 
I joined my two neighbours in a table sale outside our houses today - had a lovely time sitting in the sun and chatting and made £13.50, and got rid of enough stuff to make it worthwhile doing again.
 
Posted by Avila (# 15541) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nenya:
Mr Nen took a carload of stuff to the community recycling place this morning. Two computers. Two monitors. Two televisions. Two radios. All from the loft. I never realised there was so much stuff up there... I must have known about it once, but forgotten...

Nen - still shellshocked. [Eek!]

Sounds like the Ark for electricals - the items went in 2 by 2....

I'll get my coat....
 
Posted by Sioni Sais (# 5713) on :
 
We aren't so much decluttering - too many non-fiction books that we simply can't dispose of - but we've disposed of stacks of old craft magazines, two dying chairs and an awkward piece that doesn't hold enough bottles, knick-knacks or hobby stuff to earn its keep, replacing them with yet another bookcase and a couple of smaller, more useful cupboards that stow away more easily. Once they are in place, a couple more tatty old bookshelves can go.

I suppose it's going to be eBay again next, then maybe a front-of-house sale and the charity shops.
 
Posted by Nenya (# 16427) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Avila:
quote:
Originally posted by Nenya:
Mr Nen took a carload of stuff to the community recycling place this morning. Two computers. Two monitors. Two televisions. Two radios. All from the loft. I never realised there was so much stuff up there... I must have known about it once, but forgotten...

Sounds like the Ark for electricals - the items went in 2 by 2....
[Killing me] Doesn't it just? [Biased]

Nen - thankful the electrical pairs didn't start breeding in the loft.
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
I'm painting the attic I cleared out a few months ago. So upsetting to find out how grubby it was. No wonder no-one wants to buy the house.

I'm using a special light reflecting paint that is supposed to make small spaces look bigger and lighter.

Unfortunately I am not sure I have chosen the right colour. It is a bit pinker than I expected.

I went to an exhibition recently and fell for a
Morphy Richards Steam Cleaner

Has anyone used one? How do you get on with it?
 
Posted by chive (# 208) on :
 
I just thought I'd update you all - I've had my cleaner 5 months now and I think I may have turned into a tidy person. Everything is getting put away straight after I've used it. What's happening to me?
 
Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :
 
I have a Morphy Richards steam cleaner, but a cheaper model. I like it. We have lino in our porch and kitchen, and tiles in our bathroom and showerroom, and it makes a good job of them. Our bathroom in particular is a nightmare as the previous owners floored it with white tiles, and it gets grubby easily.

It heats up quickly and it's light and easy to use. I use tap water as we live in an area with low limescale, so that, after the initial outlay, it's cheaper than using a bucket and mop with cleaning liquid. The floors dry quickly; our kitchen lino is slippy when wet, so that's good.

My only gripe is that I'd like a longer flex on mine to reach from the nearest socket right into the bathroom and showerroom.

[ 25. June 2013, 12:17: Message edited by: North East Quine ]
 
Posted by Little Miss Methodist (# 1000) on :
 
I have a similar thing, different make but same basic idea. I do love it because cleaning the floors is my third least favourite household task (after cleaning the cat litter tray and taking out the rubbish). I thought having this might help me to wash the floors more often. At first it did, but I have the same aversion to sweeping the floor as I do to mopping and it hasn't helped with that!

I do really like it tough and it's great for cleaning the shower and the kitchen cabinets, stuff like that. I've even tried it on my sofa, but it think every machine probably need to know its limitations...

I'm working on starting a general declutter at the moment because I've just been feeling overwhelmed by 'stuff" lately. My house is actually pretty tidy and clutter free but I just feel like there is too much stuff in it, so I think it needs paring down slightly. Not even remotely sure what to start with though!
 
Posted by daisydaisy (# 12167) on :
 
I have a steam mop which does the job well when I get around to using it. I need one that does it for me without my prompting.

I've just returned from a week in a lovely holiday cottage which was almost clutter free (just a few ornaments to make it look more homely) and was hit by the clutter at home and have had to resist the clear-out because it is sentimental or useful clutter, and I have to remember that i always feel like this when I come back from a more functional place.
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
That's all very encouraging. Hopefully it won't turn into another bit of clutter.

Congratulations Chive, that is great news.
 
Posted by Eigon (# 4917) on :
 
I subscribe to the Writing Magazine, and when I've read a copy I have been keeping them on a shelf to look at again some time. Yesterday the pile reached the top of the shelf so I couldn't squeeze another magazine on, so I thought I'd go through them to get rid of the ones I didn't want to keep for useful articles.
I now have a nice empty space on my shelf, and I'm disposing of all of them!
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
I'm not convinced about the steam mop yet. But I have only used it once, and what with the buying of distilled water, the reading of the instructions and the scratching of the head, and the finding of screwdrivers to fix various bits to each other - I felt it was easier to use the traditional scooting a j cloth round with the foot method of cleaning the bathroom floor.

Meanwhile the decorator started on the main bedroom today. So quite a lot of decluttering went on while we were moving everything out yesterday.

I am hopeful that when all is done we will be able to get rid of a wardrobe in the spare bedroom thanks to my previous purging of clothes.

I was so upset when we moved the furniture in the bedroom. Behind it in the corners the wall paper was peeling and black with mould and cobwebs. [Eek!] and [Hot and Hormonal]

I shouted at Mr T for a bit and felt better. Told him we need a new carpet as well as curtains as in the corners where the mould and condensation had been the carpet came out in clumps when I hoovered.

He is not happy as we are putting it back on the market when the work is done.

No wonder no-one wanted to buy it. Although they couldn't see the mould etc, clearly we hadn't realised quite how grotty the room had got.

In fact I am jolly glad we have decorated before selling. I would have been mortified if we had only found all this when we moved out and had to leave it for the buyers.

I am now thinking that it will be best to move out and rent before putting it back on the market. Then we can deal with any grot and people will see that all is ready to move into and clean as it will be empty.

Haven't told Mr T this yet.
 
Posted by Ethne Alba (# 5804) on :
 
Matters have slipped again........
 
Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on :
 
I don't usually post in this thread, but I have just got rid of a desk and all its contents have been redistributed neatly to other space or tossed. Which just leaves two piles of filing to do soon, as someone is coming to stay on the futon on which it is distributed. At some point before Sunday I must feel motivated.
 
Posted by Ethne Alba (# 5804) on :
 
[Eek!]
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
Congratulations on the desk removal Pete C.

How are you getting on Ethne Alba?

The decorator assured me that mould and peeling wallpaper behind furniture against external wall corners is commonplace and even the best households suffer from it.

A bit like headlice in children I suppose.

She is going to treat the walls to inhibit its reappearance. Seemed confident about it.

This is all very reassuring but I am still going to make sure the furniture is not replaced tight against the wall.

Must be more organised about doing proper cleaning more regularly.

Still fomenting plans to move out before selling.
 
Posted by Ethne Alba (# 5804) on :
 
A ridge of paper mountains....
[Frown]
 
Posted by Avila (# 15541) on :
 
Yesterday I hosted the meeting at my house in the garden, using excuse that the living room gets the evening sun and heat and garden shadier, plus hint of breeze (just a hint!) - but really it was about not having to face rescuing the room from clutter plus this weekends event planning on top!
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
Avila - that's a really creative response [Overused]
 
Posted by Little Miss Methodist (# 1000) on :
 
Tonight I have gone through my wardrobe, underwear and sock drawers, chest of drawers and anywhere else where I might store clothes and had a good sort out! I've filled three black bags with stuff to donate / throw and have two piles of things to give to friends when I next see them! I've also pared down my bed linen and rearranged the storage across the two bedrooms to make better use of the space.

Feeling very virtuous.
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Little Miss Methodist:
Tonight I have gone through my wardrobe, underwear and sock drawers, chest of drawers and anywhere else where I might store clothes and had a good sort out! I've filled three black bags with stuff to donate / throw and have two piles of things to give to friends when I next see them! I've also pared down my bed linen and rearranged the storage across the two bedrooms to make better use of the space.

Feeling very virtuous.

Yes, it makes you feel great, doesn't it?

In other news, I took a deceased computer monitor to the dump and went to hand it to the guy sorting out the electricals.
Guy: Take it to the office please.
Me: It doesn't work, you know.
Guy: Yeah, just take it to the office anyway.
(I take it to the office, hand it to Office Guy)
Me: It doesn't work, you know.
Office Guy, very crestfallen: Oh. (takes it anyway)
As if anyone would take a large flat screen monitor to the dump if it was still working! [Confused]

I'm currently trying to persuade Mr. S into doing the exact same things as Little Miss M above - having thrown out all my unsuitable clothing I am now seeking what I might throw out from his wardrobe [Devil]

The Sneaky Mrs. S [Two face]
 
Posted by Little Miss Methodist (# 1000) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by The Intrepid Mrs S:

I'm currently trying to persuade Mr. S into doing the exact same things as Little Miss M above - having thrown out all my unsuitable clothing I am now seeking what I might throw out from his wardrobe [Devil]

Ah, I need to work on the same thing with my boyfriend... We don't live together, but you wouldn't know it from the amount of his stuff all over my flat. I'm fine with most of it, but he has hoarding tendencies (actually no, he has full blown hoarding behaviour) and I don't want all the random crap he rescues ending up in my house! I did some washing yesterday of stuff he had brought in, and I didn't recognise most of the clothes! Where did they come from? I've certainly never seen him wear them...

Ah well, I suspect this is going to be a constant feature of our relationship, so i'd better start getting used to it now!
 
Posted by Surfing Madness (# 11087) on :
 
I am on the move (again), and am trying to be ruthless, and move less junk than usual. I however have lots of hoarding tendencies so this is tough! Any advice welcome.
 
Posted by Golden Key (# 1468) on :
 
Making some progress. [Smile]
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Surfing Madness:
I am on the move (again), and am trying to be ruthless, and move less junk than usual. I however have lots of hoarding tendencies so this is tough! Any advice welcome.

Lots of advice for anyone with hoarding tendencies looking to declutter and move here

Try a search on the site or just post a question and people will pile in with links and advice.

First off, get rid of everything you can before packing/moving. Firstly, obvious trash. Then you have amnesty from donating or recycling or mending/repurposing/selling or whatever reason you were saving stuff for. The priority is to get rid of it. You cannot organise clutter/a hoard, you can only get rid of it.

Get rid of everything that will not fit into the new place.

Pack up everything that is essential for the new place that does not need to be in use between now and the move.

Set aside/make a list of stuff that you will be using up to the move.

That could be a method to start with.
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
Forgot to say, congratulations Golden Key.
 
Posted by cross eyed bear (# 13977) on :
 
Some encouragement: I have been lurking on this thread more than posting, but, as shared in an earlier post, have been prompted to do a lot of decluttering of my own.

Two weeks ago, my office flooded. (i'm self-employed and rented an office closer to the city). Everything had to be moved out and set up so I can work from home, whilst the landlord gets the floor professionally dried and renovates the place. If I do go back in, it'll take a while.

Because I had done so much decluttering in the office and at home, 95% of the stuff I ended up removing from the office was relevant to my work, and we had the space at home to set up a workable office within three days.

So, thanks for prompting me to declutter!
 
Posted by Firenze (# 619) on :
 
Finally admitted that I am never going to knit/sew all those tangled skeins and scrap pieces. Filled two large black bin bags - which is as much as I had space to put out. Probably still half as much again to chuck.

Also need to tackle several years output from painting classes. I don't think I'll be impoverishing Art by chucking 95% of my productions.
 
Posted by chive (# 208) on :
 
I've finally got rid of the several hundred books that were cluttering my spare bedroom. Freecycle is wonderful and they're going to be sold for charity so I'm delighted. I think everything is done now and I can relax in my house. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Roseofsharon (# 9657) on :
 
The house has been a tip since our son's wedding six weeks ago. We fetched into use loads of 'stuff' that had been stashed away for years, all of which meant first moving other 'stuff' to get to it. Now I have to try and put it all away again. The ancient table-linen has been washed and ironed and returned to its box behind the bath sheets, so the airing cupboard is more-or-less back to rights. It's a start I suppose.

I am currently clearing out the big cupboard in the hall. The contents of three shelves have been culled - the shelves are still quite full, but tidy, and nothing falls out when the doors are opened. This evening I pulled out at least 15years-worth of old greetings cards (I know they are that old because I found our silver-wedding cards, and we hit 40 years this year). They have yet to make it to the recycling bin, I'm just waiting for daylight.
That leaves me a nice empty space at the bottom into which I can move the colouring books and pens when I clear out the top shelf. Then the grandkids can reach them without a) standing on a stool and b) having a shower of books fall on their heads
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
cross eyed bear - that is a good story, thanks. Hope you get your proper office back soon.

Firenze - I felt much better when I finally made myself get rid of all the stuff I was never going to use/finish. Strangely I started getting more done on other things. All the UFO's induced a sort of paralysis, I couldn't do anything else while all that stuff was hanging about.

Chive - [Overused] Many congratulations, fantastic achievement.

Good luck Roseofsharon.
 
Posted by Roseofsharon (# 9657) on :
 
The recycling bin is nearly full, and it's a whole week to collection day. It weighs a ton - all those greetings cards, out of date guide books and road atlases from the hall cupboard.
Still two shelves to go.
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
When an aunt died my cousins found she had kept every single card they, and possibly anyone else had ever sent her!

I think they had a few happy memories going through them, but I don't think they kept them. I wonder how often my aunt looked at them.

My mil had a collection of postcards. She kept every single postcard anyone ever sent her. My sil has still got them but I am not sure why she is keeping them.

On the basis of throwing out anything that hasn't been looked at/in use for a year or more I would be decluttering my wedding photos. [Eek!]

Sometimes I consider it. [Snigger]

The main bedroom decorating project meant that all the boxes of papers and photos that lived on top of the wardrobes had be moved. I have banned them from returning until they have been sorted. But that won't happen for a while. But I do have an incentive because I will be tripping over them all the time.
 
Posted by Avila (# 15541) on :
 
This week organised the set aside research stuff in preparation for returning to study after 7 months interruption - I have order!!

less good was time off browsing in nearby town where I came home with some lovely remnant material and clear 'black bag' full of foam blocks [Help] I don't yet know what they will be useful for but they were only £2 [Big Grin]

As I do creative things with kids, with myself and in laying out interesting 'worship spaces' I maintain I will use them....

I'm sure I will... at least I think I will... hope I will.... well maybe... possibly....or not

But they were only £2!!
 
Posted by Boogie (# 13538) on :
 
We have had the puppy, Tatze, for eight weeks now. So all decluttering halted completely.

She is growing up now, house trained and in a routine, so I will start again.

Today ...... yes, TODAY!!

[Angel]
 
Posted by Pigwidgeon (# 10192) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Boogie:
We have had the puppy, Tatze, for eight weeks now. So all decluttering halted completely.

She is growing up now, house trained and in a routine, so I will start again.

Today ...... yes, TODAY!!

[Angel]

She's beautiful!

[Axe murder]
 
Posted by JoannaP (# 4493) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Pigwidgeon:
quote:
Originally posted by Boogie:
We have had the puppy, Tatze, for eight weeks now. So all decluttering halted completely.

She is growing up now, house trained and in a routine, so I will start again.

Today ...... yes, TODAY!!

[Angel]

She's beautiful!

[Axe murder]

Absolutely.
 
Posted by Golden Key (# 1468) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Thyme:
Forgot to say, congratulations Golden Key.

Thanks! [Smile]

{{{{{{{{All declutterers, on the Ship and elsewhere}}}}}}}}
 
Posted by Avila (# 15541) on :
 
My study/office/ black hole (never actually work in it just everywhere else) has a floor!! [Eek!]

Whilst aware of the ontological need for something to be holding things there, I have been agnostic at least about its existence for so long, this is a powerful revelation!
 
Posted by Little Miss Methodist (# 1000) on :
 
Have spent the evening decluttering my desk / office and have space around my to work in for the first time in months! Chucked a lot of crap out. Am aware that there is probably quite a lot more that should be thrown out but it's all filed "under the surface" as it were, and at least I've got rid of the obvious clutter.
 
Posted by Surfing Madness (# 11087) on :
 
Moving day is fast approaching and I have managed to de-clutter some stuff, other things not so well, but it is better than it was! While tidying I found a pillowcase with a map of Europe on it, on the map East and West Germany (among other things are still on it.) As it's a pillowcase as well I feel I can justify keeping it! That said I have got rid about 8 black bags worth of stuff so that is positive I guess!
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
We have accepted an offer for the house!

Let the decluttering commence!
 
Posted by Firenze (# 619) on :
 
With a lot of self-bullying, I finished decluttering the craft room. Another two bin bags of Stuff I Am Never Going To Finish.

I was slightly mortified to find, when I came to vacuum the newly-revealed floor that what I thought was the dulling of the carpet through fading turned out to be a layer of dust...
 
Posted by Roseofsharon (# 9657) on :
 
On Thursday I had to put on a display of work by the Knitting & Crochet Group of our U3A. To get at the poster card for labelling I had to empty a load of art'n'craft stuff out of a cupboard in the half-cellar/cat room/sewing room. Where it will sit until the poster card gets put away again.
We were out visiting friends on Friday, and shopping on Saturday, so nothing from Thursday has been put away - it went into the dining room, where I have been putting 'stuff' that is being sorted from the hall cupboard.

Late on Saturday afternoon Elder Son 'phoned to ask if we'd like him to visit, with the family, for the day on Sunday. [Eek!]
That meant an emergency evening visit to Supermarket for suitable foodstuffs, and then a scramble to make the dining room accommodate seven people sitting at table for meals.

Some stuff is now in tottery piles on top of the sideboard, some in the spare bedroom (which I'd almost cleared of Younger-Son's-wedding-related stuff from the end of June) and more stuff has been dumped in the half-cellar/etc. There it will stay until I can get a round toit. Which won't be this week, looking at the diary.
Still, it was a nice visit, and I sent Elder Son home with a small pile of his old books, toiletries he'd left here when getting ready for that wedding, (and a bag of runner beans;)

And although everywhere else is a tip, I do have a tidy hall cupboard with one completeely empty shelf!
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Firenze:
I was slightly mortified to find, when I came to vacuum the newly-revealed floor that what I thought was the dulling of the carpet through fading turned out to be a layer of dust...

Well...At least you don't think you might need a new carpet anymore!
[Big Grin]
 
Posted by Surfing Madness (# 11087) on :
 
Today i start de-cluttering my "stuff" from my parents loft! I'm thinking there might be one or two things worth selling on eBay. I've never used eBay so would therefore be grateful if anyone has any advice as I'm clueless. Thanks.
 
Posted by To The Pain (# 12235) on :
 
Can't help with ebay advice, but Flatmate and I did manage to empty a large box last night that has been looming in the corner of the living room since we moved in last year. And Flatmate organised the shoe storage before I got home, then we re-ordered the hats/gloves/scarves. This all feels very good.

Now I need to deal with the mountain of clean laundry that needs putting away in my bedroom.
 
Posted by Otter (# 12020) on :
 
Yesterday was the first of what should be a series of regularly-scheduled visits from the cleaning fairies (magical beings who make your house clean when you aren't looking), who did the master bedroom, bathrooms, kitchen, and entry/stairway/landing. I'm absurdly happy happy happy! [Yipee]

Prepping for the visit made us declutter the various spaces. We got rid of a good bit of rubbish (not-quite junk mail, etc.) that had accumulated, and put a bunch of not-rubbish away.

Now I need to attack the disaster that is my work-room, which to a realtor would be the dining room. Over the last few months a lot of things have just been chucked in there to deal with "later". I think "later" has arrived.
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Thyme:
First off, get rid of everything you can before packing/moving. Firstly, obvious trash. Then you have amnesty from donating or recycling or mending/repurposing/selling or whatever reason you were saving stuff for. The priority is to get rid of it. You cannot organise clutter/a hoard, you can only get rid of it.

Get rid of everything that will not fit into the new place.

Pack up everything that is essential for the new place that does not need to be in use between now and the move.

Set aside/make a list of stuff that you will be using up to the move.

That could be a method to start with.

I think I wrote this for myself. [Big Grin]

I suggested to Mr T that he buy packing materials and make a start on the books while I am away. But he seemed a bit hesitant. I can't do anything myself until I get back in September.

So I am making a plan in my head. September and October are very busy months and we are away a lot so I think I need to get started with the packing asap.

Even if this sale falls through at least some progress will have been made for the next one.

The house is pretty much decluttered, tidy and organised already so that won't be too hard.

I'm not sure I will have time to sort out the boxes/suitcases of family memorabilia that used to live on top of the wardrobes. They will probably just have to be transported as they are to the new place where they will form a pile of clutter that sucks the life out of me just thinking about it.

We are going to move in two stages, a rental first then take our time looking for something to buy. So I plan to leave a lot of little used stuff unpacked when we make the first move.

I think I will start making lists of things to do. What Flylady calls a Control Journal for the move.

I want to use Evernote for this master plan and sub plans. But I need to work out how to share the notes with Mr T and train him how to use it. [Ultra confused]

Maybe I will just print the notes out periodically for him.
 
Posted by Curiosity killed ... (# 11770) on :
 
When my daughter was tiny and we were moving for the umpteenth time in a few months I started packing by boxing up things I didn't use so much and putting the boxes back in the cupboards where that china or winter clothes or whatever lived there normally. So when I had to load the car/van on the day, for a quite a bit of it I just had to open cupboard doors and pull out the box.
 
Posted by Jane R (# 331) on :
 
Thyme:
quote:
I suggested to Mr T that he buy packing materials and make a start on the books while I am away. But he seemed a bit hesitant.
YMMV, but in my experience it's better to leave books until the last possible moment; they are easy to pack and take up far less space on the bookshelves than they do in boxes. If it was me I'd try and get him to pack some of the non-essential kitchen things - now they ARE fiddly to pack.

Besides, if you pack them several months in advance I guarantee you will discover a burning desire to reread a multi-volume saga that has been packed in four different boxes, all on the bottom of the stack... [Help]

I actually came here looking for sympathy - we are redecorating Daughter's bedroom next week, but before we do that there is a huge tidying and sorting job. She is a hoarder and when she was 3 I rashly promised never to throw any of her toys away without consulting her first. Seven years later we can hardly see the carpet in her room...

[ 22. August 2013, 08:14: Message edited by: Jane R ]
 
Posted by Boogie (# 13538) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jane R:
She is a hoarder and when she was 3 I rashly promised never to throw any of her toys away without consulting her first. Seven years later we can hardly see the carpet in her room...

Oh, bad move, bad move [Biased]

We used to hide unused toys and take them to charity a couple of years later. If they were not missed in two years they were not missed at all.

Now every scrap of they boys stuff has gone as they have their own homes.

It feels odd [Frown]

So I have filled the place with doggy stuff [Big Grin]

I bought Tatze a teddy today - it's as big as her!
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jane R:
If it was me I'd try and get him to pack some of the non-essential kitchen things - now they ARE fiddly to pack.
(snip)
I guarantee you will discover a burning desire to reread a multi-volume saga that has been packed in four different boxes, all on the bottom of the stack... [Help]

Ooooeeeeerrr, I don't fancy letting him loose on the kitchen stuff, it's mine, all mine, my preccioussss..... [Paranoid]

You might be right about the books [Smile]
 
Posted by Boogie (# 13538) on :
 
Ever since clearing out my filing cabinet I have been shredding. I do some every day - one shredder full a day. I'm fed up of it now.

Yesterday I saw a great little new business - a small van with 'mobile shredding' on the side. They come and do your shredding for you.

I don't have enough for that - but what a good idea.

I don't enjoy shredding but would happily do it for cash!! Great idea for setting up a little business for any jobless Shippies out there.

[Big Grin]
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
Mr T and I have had a summit meeting to agree the rules of engagement for decluttering and packing for the move.

It proceeded calmly. We seem to have made progress in handling these things after 36 years of marriage. [Big Grin]

We have a road map and a process.

I want a clean start with this move, getting new things for the new house. Taking only those things which we love or want.

Mr T is more inclined to keep things 'just in case'. He is very tidy and organised but once a thing takes up residence somewhere it is very difficult to dislodge it.

We are going to start by getting all the small items we don't want to keep either out to the charity shop or to the tip.

Then packing up all the small items we don't need until after the move, pictures, ornaments and so on.

A friend wants first refusal on any religious books I am decluttering. So that is a big help.

No news from the agents or solicitors so I am hoping the buyers aren't changing their minds.
 
Posted by Mrs Shrew (# 8635) on :
 
We are hoping to exchange contracts on our very first house soon... I'm a bit terrified by the task of packing and moving, but hoping to use the opportunity to have a good clear out.

I did have great success this week in sorting out the brownies cupboard, to declutter it for the new term. There is so much stuff in there that I can't imagine we need (I took the group over at the start of the year) but at least I now have a clear idea of what is in there.
I used a set of drawers to put paper and card in, and fixed up the broken shelves with mdf so at least it will be easier to use. Now to have a 'one of everything' type night to use up some of the crafts there is about ten years worth of the last three or four of any given craft (from when you make or buy extra or when one girl doesn't turn up) so although there isn't a full set of anything, there are enough things to keep them all occupied for several meetings if I just let them pick one thing each to do.
That should make my planning easier this term at least [Razz]
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
In less than 4 weeks, The Intrepid Miss S and Future Son-in-Law will be married, [Axe murder] and the reception and the afterparty will have been and gone *phew*

Because the afterparty the next day is at Chateau S, I have been madly painting everything; to wit, two boundaries' worth of fence panels: ten garden chairs and two garden tables: the front door, the hall and banisters, the utility room (yes, I know, but it was awful): the dining room and the sitting room.

To attempt to clear the sitting room a bit, I suggested Mr. S buy a Brennan or similar, so he bought a Cocktail Audio onto which he has spent 5 weeks loading almost 1000 CDs. Then we double-wrapped said CDs in clingfilm, in batches to fit back into the shelving, and lugged all the shelving and all the wrapped CDs into the loft.

Thus, having spent last summer emptying the loft, we have now almost refilled it *sigh*

BUT THE LIVING ROOM LOOKS LOVELY! [Overused] and we can search the music collection from a tablet, instead of trying to see down into the darkest corner behind the sofa.

Extreme decluttering, anyone?

The Exhausted Mrs S, lightly coated with paint, but [Yipee]
 
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on :
 
Blimey, Mrs. S. [Overused] [Overused] [Overused]

My reason for not de-cluttering chez Piglet is that we've been having work done to the house which is taking forever (builder problems - don't even go there [Mad] ) and I feel no inclination to do any tidying until the place stops looking like a building-site.

That's my excuse and I'm sticking to it ... [Biased]
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
WOW Mrs S - what an achievement! Congratulations.

[Overused] [Overused] [Overused]
 
Posted by Heavenly Anarchist (# 13313) on :
 
Well done Mrs S!
 
Posted by Boogie (# 13538) on :
 
Marvellous work Mrs S - well done [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
Yes indeed, well done.

Piglet, you'd have been horrified by me yesterday - I got the va**um out and cleared away the cobwebs that have been threatening to take over the stairwell, it was looking distinctly Miss Havisham like! Afterwards I did the study and my bedroom as well.

I felt VERY virtuous.

[Angel]

[Have you noticed how vacuum and valium both look the same when the two middle letters are *'d out?]
 
Posted by Jengie Jon (# 273) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mrs Shrew:

Now to have a 'one of everything' type night to use up some of the crafts there is about ten years worth of the last three or four of any given craft (from when you make or buy extra or when one girl doesn't turn up) so although there isn't a full set of anything, there are enough things to keep them all occupied for several meetings if I just let them pick one thing each to do.
That should make my planning easier this term at least [Razz]

Why not set them a "cardboard box" challenge. They get given a random cardboard box and told to make something of it. If these are small ones, then one each or work in pairs; if big boxes then one per six. They are free to make any of the other craft material.

Jengie
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
Thank you for those kind words! It horrified me to see quite how grubby everywhere was - I had no intention of doing more than the one 'feature' wall in the dining room, but as soon as I laid a paintbrush on it you could see that everywhere else was just filthy, really. I couldn't think why - 'candles' said my friend Anita and of course she was right.

Ah well, if that's the price I pay for candlelit dinners, so be it.

In fairness I should also point out that I left work on 5th July - a combination of retirement and redundancy - redundament? or hardly any of this would have got done.

(Every time we try and do something about the house or garden, I think that the garage seriously needs decluttering because that's where Stuff ends up, but I daren't suggest anything like that to Mr. S just at the moment!)

Mrs. S, resigned in more ways than one! [Yipee]
 
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by The Intrepid Mrs S:
... if that's the price I pay for candlelit dinners ...

The Intrepid Mrs. Bucket?? [Devil]

WW, I'm horrified and impressed in equal measure ... [Eek!] [Overused]
 
Posted by Nenya (# 16427) on :
 
Well done indeed, Mrs S. [Overused] I hope the wedding is a truly wonderful day.

Pegging away slowly at the sorting of paperwork here at Casa Nen. It's slow and frustrating and emotionally draining but there's no option but to keep at it. [Roll Eyes]

Nen - no end in sight at present. [Frown]
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
Piglet, at least if the dinner is candlelit, no-one can see the cobwebs (pace WW!) [Two face]

Mrs. S, method in her madness
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
I went around the house yesterday collecting up obvious things to declutter that aren't going to move with us.

Pleased that the pile was quite small. Although it was only things out on view, I haven't started delving into cupboards yet.

I also started dealing with the piles of paperwork that have accumulated while I have been distracted recently.

Pleased to see that most of it is filing/rubbish and not too many things I have to do something about, or should have done something about two months ago [Hot and Hormonal] .

I have lost an important doc needed to do a tax return. Hoping St Anthony will come to the rescue.
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
I have done the filing. It seems I haven't done any since April. [Hot and Hormonal]

My 'to do' list is very small and manageable. It is strange because before I started sorting out the papers I felt I had loads to do and no idea where to start.

Now all the surface 'life clutter' resulting from a recent major family drama has cleared it seems that maybe my decluttering of my own life and possessions has made more progress that I thought.

Perhaps it is like losing weight, each half pound seems invisible and interminable and then suddenly your clothes are a bit too big. This has happened too recently. I went to M&S for trousers and lo and behold had to buy a smaller size.

It would be nice to think that ever so gradually I could declutter myself out of this world and into the next without anyone noticing. Thus sparing myself and my nearest and dearest a lot of anguish and hassle. I have witnessed and had to clear up the effects of 'not going gentle into that good night' and they are not pretty.

I would like to go gently into the great eternal light, blessing and giving thanks and praise, not raging against the dying of this light where we see only darkly
 
Posted by Golden Key (# 1468) on :
 
{{{{{{{Thyme}}}}}}}

You're doing great! [Smile]
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
The thing I find about filing is that it rarely takes very long to actually do it - but it can take weeks or months [years?] for me to feel sufficiently motivated to tackle it! A few years ago I gave myself a solemn promise that I would file stuff when it arrived. I think the New Me lasted maybe a month.

[Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
Socks and thermal vests sorted and decluttered. I probably still have too many socks but have done as much as feel capable of right now. At least I can find the right matching pair for the right shoes and outfit now.
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
Anyone would think that Mr. S and I were hosting the Intrepid Miss S's wedding in our garage, as decluttering has arrived there.

Cue much 'do you know what this is?' from me, followed by 'if we don't know what it is, we don't need it' from Mr. S.

Half-empty tins of paint, old shelves, a broken set of steps, endless small packets from which 2 screws and a washer had been extracted - fun fun fun at the dump today, then we came home and did some more [Roll Eyes] Well, another trip to the dump - sorry, household recycling facility - will give Mr. S something to do while I am at Miss S's Hen Do! (my very first! [Eek!] )

Mrs. S, scraping grot from under her fingernails
 
Posted by L'organist (# 17338) on :
 
Clearing our No. 1 shed last summer (didn't get it finished but got rid of a lot) I got to be on such good terms with the chaps at the dump that they came to our carol service...!
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by L'organist:
Clearing our No. 1 shed last summer (didn't get it finished but got rid of a lot) I got to be on such good terms with the chaps at the dump that they came to our carol service...!

[Killing me]
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
L'organist -Decluttering as evangelism - how cool is that!

You could probably get a grant to form a Fresh Expression - 'Dump Church?' or maybe 'Tidy Church' [Two face]

You have more than one shed?

Mrs S - clearing the garage, [Overused]

[ 27. September 2013, 08:08: Message edited by: Thyme ]
 
Posted by Heavenly Anarchist (# 13313) on :
 
Currently decluttering kitchen cupboard of pottery I've had since I was a teenager, much of it chipped or cracked. Replacing it gradually with nice Denby [Smile] also throwing a lot of baby cutlery and dishes. Now I can reorganise some cupboards.
I've got a big bag of good toddler clothes beside me and I really need to list some of it on the parenting site I frequent and charity shop/ give away the rest.
 
Posted by Pigwidgeon (# 10192) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Thyme:

You have more than one shed?

She wouldn't be the first.
[Biased]

(I actually have two myself!)
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Pigwidgeon:
quote:
Originally posted by Thyme:

You have more than one shed?

She wouldn't be the first.
[Biased]

(I actually have two myself!)

Mr. S's friend John has SEVEN! [Overused]

But in compensation, we have none - a deliberate decision - which is why our garage is such a tip *sigh*

Never mind, it's better than what it were.

Mrs. S, trying to maintain clean fingernails
 
Posted by Heavenly Anarchist (# 13313) on :
 
I have one shed, two outhouses and an outside loo to store my clutter in! And this is a modest ex-council house.
I'd love another shed [Smile]
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
Love the Monty Python clip!

I have just remembered that in our last house I installed two quite large sheds in the garden [Hot and Hormonal] It was a very long time ago so that is my excuse for forgetting.

Mr T was very fed up when we had to leave them behind.

We have one shed in this house. My main regret is that I didn't get a bigger one.

I decluttered the herbs and spices yesterday. That was embarrassing.

[ 27. September 2013, 17:14: Message edited by: Thyme ]
 
Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :
 
Our local animal sanctuary wants feeding bowls. Hurrah! think I. A chance to get rid of the food bowls which belonged to our cats, the last of which died in 2009. So I unearth them. They're rather dusty. I put them through the dishwasher. At this point, my daughter claims that they are "sentimental" and we can't get rid of them. She thinks we could start using them again, perhaps as nut dishes, or to serve olives. I point out that one has "Pussy" printed on it, and the other three have a paw-print design. Daughter fails to see why this precludes them being used to serve nibbles to guests.

[brick wall] [brick wall] [brick wall]

It shouldn't be this hard to declutter a cat-food bowl four years after the last cat's demise.
( [Votive] Cleo [Votive] Agnes)
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by North East Quine:
Our local animal sanctuary wants feeding bowls. Hurrah! think I. A chance to get rid of the food bowls which belonged to our cats, the last of which died in 2009. So I unearth them. They're rather dusty. I put them through the dishwasher. At this point, my daughter claims that they are "sentimental" and we can't get rid of them. She thinks we could start using them again, perhaps as nut dishes, or to serve olives. I point out that one has "Pussy" printed on it, and the other three have a paw-print design. Daughter fails to see why this precludes them being used to serve nibbles to guests.

[brick wall] [brick wall] [brick wall]

It shouldn't be this hard to declutter a cat-food bowl four years after the last cat's demise.
( [Votive] Cleo [Votive] Agnes)

[Killing me]

Mrs. S, tickled [Yipee]
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by North East Quine:
Our local animal sanctuary wants feeding bowls. Hurrah! think I. A chance to get rid of the food bowls which belonged to our cats, the last of which died in 2009. So I unearth them. They're rather dusty. I put them through the dishwasher. At this point, my daughter claims that they are "sentimental" and we can't get rid of them. She thinks we could start using them again, perhaps as nut dishes, or to serve olives. I point out that one has "Pussy" printed on it, and the other three have a paw-print design. Daughter fails to see why this precludes them being used to serve nibbles to guests.

[brick wall] [brick wall] [brick wall]

It shouldn't be this hard to declutter a cat-food bowl four years after the last cat's demise.
( [Votive] Cleo [Votive] Agnes)

[Killing me]

Mrs. S, tickled [Yipee]
 
Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :
 
The paw print design bowls have gone (our vet, just round the corner, has a collection point for the sanctuary, very handy) but we still have the "pussy" bowl. [Disappointed]

I've lost a piece of paper. I've had a good rummage and can't find it. However in the course of looking for it, I've half-filled our paper-recycling box, have caught up on several Radio 4 programmes and have re-sighted the study carpet.

So that's always something.

The big declutter starts (D.V.) next week.
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
[Killing me] so funny about the cat bowls North East Quine.

I have been decluttering bits and pieces here and there.

Mr T commented that the bins were very full and heavy this week and asked what I had decluttered.

I couldn't remember!!!! Just shows how important it all was.
 
Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :
 
6. pm - The big declutter started!
6.30pm - First argument with husband over the first item I intended to declutter.

It's a bottle of 40% proof Russian vodka. Husband was given it about 8 years ago, and told to store it in the freezer. It took up valuable room in our freezer, where it was out-of-sight-out-of-mind to husband. Eventually I needed the freezer space, and put it with the rest of the alcohol. Husband spotted it and put it back in the freezer, intending to drink it. Except that, once in the freezer, it was out-of-sight etc. Till I turfed it out, he remembered it and put it back in...

It's been doing the hokey-cokey in and out of the freezer for eight years, without ever being opened. I think I could usefully use it as drain cleaner. But no! Husband assures me he will drink it....one day. There's currently no room in the freezer, so he can't drink it yet.

[brick wall] [brick wall] [brick wall]
 
Posted by Firenze (# 619) on :
 
OK. Back in the freezer. At conclusion of meal you bring him frosted glass and say: Iss wodka dorogi moi. Drink!

If he doesn't, drain it yourself. Possibly spend evening singing song of the Volga Boatmen. Continue until bottle is empty.
 
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on :
 
Bloody hell, Firenze - I'm getting a hangover just reading that post!

[Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by piglet:
Bloody hell, Firenze - I'm getting a hangover just reading that post!

[Roll Eyes]

We set up a tradition when I lived with son and DIL. Mid-afternoon in summer on a Sunday and all on the enormous covered balcony on living level of house. Son would make freshly squeezed fruit juice and vodka.

Then roast dinner and Dr Who.

Of course none of this is really decluttering, but it will empty that bottle.

[ 26. October 2013, 04:27: Message edited by: Lothlorien ]
 
Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :
 
I am not drinking anything 40% proof. Especially not when the label is in Russian and I can't read it.

We have some dodgy-looking Nepalese brandy, too, but it's at the back of a cupboard and not annoying me.

I have great plans to declutter and clean the kitchen today!
 
Posted by daisydaisy (# 12167) on :
 
Could you use it as Russian window cleaning fluid? Never having used Russian Vodka to do that myself, but i get the feeling it might be rather good.
 
Posted by Firenze (# 619) on :
 
It doesn't have tobe a big glass - just a shot, but cold enough that it sticks to your fingers. Nothing nicer as a digestif. Nor does it give you a hangover.

Which is more than can be said for last night's wine tasting. Mind you, just as soon as the hammering stops, we're going out to buy a case of the Chilean rosé sparkler.
 
Posted by Boogie (# 13538) on :
 
We had lots of friends round for a meal last night (20!) and one staying over.

Lots of decluttering done. NOW I know why my friend's house is so tidy - she regularly has visitors to stay!

[Smile]
 
Posted by Taliesin (# 14017) on :
 
Isn't all vodka 40% ?? And how can you pour it from the freezer... or does vodka not go solid..?

Just put lots of mixer in it,NEQ. It's far less lethal than wine or stuff like sherry.

I have to get rid of clothes this week. Very hard. And help my mother, too. House so full she can't use one room. Depressed about it. We're going to put everything in boxes and stack it up.
 
Posted by Firenze (# 619) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Taliesin:
Isn't all vodka 40% ?? And how can you pour it from the freezer... or does vodka not go solid..?

The freezing point of pure ethanol is -114C. Unless you make your vodka in an oil drum out the back, it's unlikely to be quite that strong, but it will have a freezing point substantially below the range of an average domestic freezer.

Wine will though, which is why, when you pop in a bottle of Veuve Clicquot, it's important to repeat loudly and at frequent intervals 'Wine in freezer!' unless you want to be picking shards of glass out of the fish fingers for weeks to come.
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
Boogie - having visitors used to be the only thing that kept my house anywhere near presentable.

I remember when daughter announced a sudden visit at short notice to stay for the weekend with sil and grandchildren.

I had to get up at 5.30am and clean till time to go to work and then all evening after work for a week! It was after that I decided Something Had To Be Done. Enter Flylady via Ship of Fools.

This weekend's effort is to declutter the books pending the Big Move. Cleared out a large crateful. I hardly dare whisper it as contracts aren't quite exchanged, but the house is sold.

Tomorrow's task is to buy boxes and a huge roll of bubble wrap.
 
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Firenze:
... repeat loudly and at frequent intervals 'Wine in freezer!' unless you want to be picking shards of glass out of the fish fingers for weeks to come.

Been there, done that. Ours wasn't bubbly though, so it didn't actually explode. IIRC we put the broken bottle into a tall plastic jug until it defrosted, then poured the resulting mixture through a coffee-filter and a sieve. The wine was fine, but the jug had to go as lots of little shards had sort of embedded themselves in the plastic ... [Eek!]
 
Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :
 
We have been decluttering ourselves of a bottle of plum wine, which was rather lovely. Finished it last night, so it's the vodka next!

Went onto Fly lady this morning, and intend to follow her suggestion of decluttering the living room this week.
 
Posted by Heavenly Anarchist (# 13313) on :
 
I might follow your example and revisit Flylady, I found it very helpful last year.
Perhaps I should follow your other example too, and raid the drinks cabinet... [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Cara (# 16966) on :
 
I think I need to read this thread regularly. But my mind is too cluttered to remember it is here.

Clutter is my bête noire and always has been. Have found regularly visitors is a real help.

Now preparing for a move so must Confront It. Blech.

Have cleared out two modest carrier bags full of books. Piles of magazines (am trying to pass books and mags on to people who will enjoy them, as they aren't rubbish, but not much luck).

Today may address a) clothes--need to give some away.
b) hoard of newspaper articles about nice places I may travel some day.....

Or may c) spend too long on the Ship, d) finish a bit of writing that is more fun than anything else, or e) go out for a walk in the amazing warm sunshine.

(Hmm. Could kill two birds....sort clothes and take nice walk with give-away ones to box where they can be deposited.)
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
Packing and organising to move. Feeling overwhelmed. Everything seems chaotic.

Also, I thought my house was reasonably clean but in the packing process I am getting filthy!!!

Lots of decluttering going on though, including Mr T's stuff, which otherwise would just have stayed where it was forever.

Can I face moving every few years just to force a major declutter? No.

However, this first move will probably be a temporary one while we look for somewhere permanent. So maybe there will be more decluttering scope the next time round.

Trying to organise the boxes so we can leave a lot of stuff unpacked till the final move.

The removal firm advises not having the boxes so heavy we can't lift them ourselves. Not for their benefit but for ours. So the really heavy items like books have to be mixed with lighter items, or have millions of half filled boxes....

This makes it harder to devise a logical method of filling the boxes to assist in the unpacking.

Cara - 'amnesty' is your friend. The objective is to get the stuff out of the house. Give yourself amnesty from finding good homes for it all or recycling it or whatever. Just get it in the bin or down to the tip.
 
Posted by Moo (# 107) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Thyme:
Trying to organise the boxes so we can leave a lot of stuff unpacked till the final move.

The removal firm advises not having the boxes so heavy we can't lift them ourselves. Not for their benefit but for ours. So the really heavy items like books have to be mixed with lighter items...

I have two tips from my last move.

1)Buy some contact paper with a very conspicuous print. Cut large squares and paste them on every surface of the boxes that you need access to before you make the final move. You need to label the boxes also, of course, but it helps to know at a glance which boxes you can ignore temporarily.

2)Buy your own boxes for books. Try to locate a box factory near you. (I was surprised to learn that there are small box factories all over, at least in the US.) I bought boxes that were designed to hold four gallon jugs filled with liquid. I could lift them when they were filled with books. The drawback is that I had to buy them in quantities of twenty-five. However, I had enough books to fill them.

Good luck with your packing!

Moo
 
Posted by Pigwidgeon (# 10192) on :
 
Your local print shop may have surplus boxes that paper comes in -- just the size to pack books that you can still lift.

When I moved into an apartment where I didn't expect to stay for long, I marked the end of each box (printed in a LARGE font on my computer) so that when the boxes were stacked I could see where things were if needed, but a lot of the boxes stayed packed until my next move a year later. They also have lift-off lids, which are a big help.
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
Thanks for all the good ideas. Daughter (an experienced mover - last one with a new born and an under two) says there's no point fretting about organisation because it never works, just chuck it all in boxes and it will sort itself out sooner or later.

I think maybe a happy medium, although as the deadline approaches I think the 'chuck it all in the boxes' approach will be the best way. It is all going very slowly and there is still the kitchen to do. [Eek!]

Threw out a load of old towels. Why was I keeping them? Some vague idea of cutting them up for dusters. I did that once, even overlocked(serged) the edges. But they just left a load of lint everywhere. A lot of effort for not much reward. Life's too short. So away they go and if I need dusters I'll get them from a pound shop (dollar store?).
 
Posted by Golden Key (# 1468) on :
 
Making some progress! [Smile]
 
Posted by Eigon (# 4917) on :
 
As long as you know where the box with the kettle, tea mugs and tea, milk and sugar are, you can cope with the rest later!
 
Posted by Cara (# 16966) on :
 
Continued good luck to you, Thyme. Thanks for the amnesty tip.

I did eventually walk out, with a shopping-trolley crammed full of clothes, down to the bin whence they will apparently be thoughtfully recycled/distributed, so feel good about that!

The mags may indeed end up in the recycling rather than entertaining other readers, I can't hold on to them for ever til said readers who want to take them away appear! Amnesty.

Thing is, doing one small thing that loomed so horribly (and didn't actually take that long to do--like filing, as WW says above) always feels so good and so heroic that I I feel I have the right to rest on my laurels a bit, sit down w a cup of tea, read something or do a puzzle....but there is still so much to DO!!
 
Posted by Pigwidgeon (# 10192) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Cara:
The mags may indeed end up in the recycling rather than entertaining other readers, I can't hold on to them for ever til said readers who want to take them away appear!

If you happen to be passing a hairdresser, doctor's office, laundromat, etc., you might drop them off there.
 
Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on :
 
Many offices no longer supply magazines due to the germ factor.
 
Posted by Eigon (# 4917) on :
 
Our dentist still has a table full of magazines - I haven't been into the doctors' surgery lately to see if they still do. I usually take my magazines to the launderette.
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
A mouse was spotted last night in our big upstairs room which has become, over the years, little more than a repository for junk. It is now becoming fearfully organised so that we can seek and destroy the little pestilence. I am glad I have taken my antihistamines as the dust levels are extreme to severe!

Shortly we will bring feral cat upstairs for a sniff around.
 
Posted by Firenze (# 619) on :
 
I had a turn out of a kitchen cupboard today. Why, given I rarely bake, do I have five bags of caster sugar? Other multiples were polenta, red lentils, teriyaki sauce and balsamic vinegar.
 
Posted by Drifting Star (# 12799) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Thyme:
Thanks for all the good ideas. Daughter (an experienced mover - last one with a new born and an under two) says there's no point fretting about organisation because it never works, just chuck it all in boxes and it will sort itself out sooner or later.

I think maybe a happy medium, although as the deadline approaches I think the 'chuck it all in the boxes' approach will be the best way. It is all going very slowly and there is still the kitchen to do. [Eek!]

Threw out a load of old towels. Why was I keeping them? Some vague idea of cutting them up for dusters. I did that once, even overlocked(serged) the edges. But they just left a load of lint everywhere. A lot of effort for not much reward. Life's too short. So away they go and if I need dusters I'll get them from a pound shop (dollar store?).

I'm all for the 'throw it in a box' approach, but make sure you label the boxes - it's really, really annoying to find that there are several heavy boxes at the wrong end of the house, and on the wrong floor. Not to mention taking a month to find things that you really needed straight away.

I did the keeping old towels thing, but ended up using them for packing around things, which was good. They were also quite useful when we found that the new house wasn't nearly as clean as the one we'd left. They're going into the bin now we've moved though!
 
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Firenze:
I had a turn out of a kitchen cupboard today. Why, given I rarely bake, do I have five bags of caster sugar ...?

The same reason I had three jars of coriander seeds - you buy one, use a teaspoon of seeds, put it away and forget about it, then you want to do that cauliflower-and-coriander thing from the old Delia Smith books and you think, I need some coriander ... [Big Grin]

Either that or they were on a BOGOF offer.
 
Posted by Golden Key (# 1468) on :
 
Piglet--

[Biased] Clearly, you can solve your coriander problem by no longer eating cauliflower! [Biased]


-->(Not a big fan of cauliflower.)
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
Thanks for the tips Drifting Star. I think you are right about the towels. I might rescue them. They will come in handy for cleaning this house once everything is out - never mind the new one!

We are mostly packed up. Kitchen and a few bits still to do.

The man from the clearance firm has just been and quoted me for the clearance items. So depressing. Only one item has any monetary value. All the rest will go to the tip.

I am not surprised, I had this with my parents stuff and their stuff was much nicer.

It has reinforced my determination not to spend any more money on furniture and household items than I have to. It is a complete waste of money.

Also to continue paring down our personal possessions.

Have to say that Mr T is being brilliant [Overused] [Axe murder]

He has decluttered loads of his books and papers and other stuff and is generally being a rock.
 
Posted by Polly Plummer (# 13354) on :
 
If you ever have a leaking pipe/radiator/washing machine, you'll be glad of all the old towels you can find!
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
Yes! It's a dilemma - whether to keep a pile of old towels just in case. Of course as soon as they are got rid of the emergency will happen.
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Thyme:
It has reinforced my determination not to spend any more money on furniture and household items than I have to. It is a complete waste of money.

Also to continue paring down our personal possessions.

Up to a point I agree, Thyme - clearing stuff out made me think a lot harder about what I bought, particularly what you might term non-essentials. But good stuff lasts longer than cheap stuff (as well as being nicer). I think perhaps it's better to forget about whether it will be worth anything to someone after you die, and just concentrate on whether it is what YOU (and Mr T, of course) want in the here and now.

We've spent quite a bit of money over the years on pictures but it doesn't worry me whether they'll be worth anything to/for the kids when I die - I'll have had the pleasure of them for all this time. [Axe murder]

YMMV, of course! [Smile]

Mrs. S, wondering what to throw away next
 
Posted by Jane R (# 331) on :
 
Intrepid Mrs S:
quote:
But good stuff lasts longer than cheap stuff (as well as being nicer). I think perhaps it's better to forget about whether it will be worth anything to someone after you die, and just concentrate on whether it is what YOU (and Mr T, of course) want in the here and now.
Wise words. Whatever else you do, don't economise on your bed and mattress, Thyme. You need one that's comfortable.

My father-in-law hated spending money on new furniture, with the result that he slept (uncomfortably) for about 40 years in a bed that was second-hand when he got it. It wasn't as if he couldn't have afforded a new one, either.
 
Posted by Boogie (# 13538) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Thyme:
Yes! It's a dilemma - whether to keep a pile of old towels just in case. Of course as soon as they are got rid of the emergency will happen.

Or you will get a new puppy! [Biased]
 
Posted by Jengie Jon (# 273) on :
 
Here the story of my grandfather and shoes. First thing you need to know is my family has a genetic form of arthritis. The major symptom of which are large and painful bunions. While, I who am female have it the weakest of the lot who have so far, my father and grandfather had quite badly deformed feet due to it.

My grandfather would not spend much on a pair of shoes. Of course cheap shoes were dreadfully uncomfortable for him, so he kept buying new shoes. The result was that there were about twenty pairs of cheap hardly worn shoes in his cupboard when he died.

Jengie
 
Posted by Nenya (# 16427) on :
 
Well done to all you declutterers. Chez Nen progress is slow. Very slow. In fact, imperceptible. [Roll Eyes]

I'm thinking I need to take a day or two off work in order to make some significant progress and give myself a head start.

Nen [Help]
 
Posted by Ethne Alba (# 5804) on :
 
Having lurked and intermittently posted for a while, this week saw a bit of a breakthrough.

I just threw stuff away.
Ok, "recycled" then.
But it went.


There's about another twenty wheelie bins to go, but something has changed...in me.

Amazon is helping!
 
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jengie Jon:
... about twenty pairs of cheap hardly worn shoes in his cupboard when he died ...

D's father died while we were over on holiday this summer, and we realised that he hadn't brought any clothes suitable for a funeral. While we were contemplating a visit to Oxfam to get him a suit, his cousin (whose father had died a couple of months previously) called to the house. She said that she hadn't got round to clearing out her father's clothes and shoes yet, and brought a huge load of them round the next day.

D. came away with a suit, a blazer, a pair of trousers and three pairs of unworn, very good-quality shoes, which fitted him as though they'd been made for him.

That was just what we could fit in our suitcase - there are more that we'll pick up next time we're over. He reckons he'll never have to buy shoes again ... [Big Grin]
 
Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :
 
Today I decluttered two books to the charity book shop...and came out having bought five.
 
Posted by Jenny Ann (# 3131) on :
 
I'm thinking about decluttering some bookcases this weekend. I have a recipient for the books, and they'll mostly be fiction (of the non-trash, but not 'great literature' persuasion).

Previous solution for the issue of more books than bookcase space has been to buy more bookcases, but now I've got no more space for bookcases!

I'll be honest, I'm dreading it.
 
Posted by Jane R (# 331) on :
 
NEQ:
quote:
Today I decluttered two books to the charity book shop...and came out having bought five.
Every time I try to thin out my book collection I have the same problem. I eventually came up with a guiding principle that works for me:

If you can still see the floor in most rooms, books do not count as clutter.
 
Posted by Chorister (# 473) on :
 
To avoid looking at additional books, I wrap the used books in an old carrier bag and put them in the Oxfam hopper at the nearest recycling point. That way, there are no other books on show to tempt me to buy more.
 
Posted by Jane R (# 331) on :
 
That's a good idea. I also give them away to church sales - I don't think I've ever found a book I wanted in a church sale, though once I bought a copy of a book in an Oxfam shop that turned out to be something I'd donated to a church sale a year or so earlier...

(not just a book addict - an absent-minded book addict)
 
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on :
 
It's rare for us to come away from the bookstall at the Cathedral sale with fewer books than we started with, but I think we managed it at the one a couple of weeks ago.

Part of me treats it as a sort of lending library: I bought Wolf Hall at the Spring sale, decided it was cr@p and returned it at the Autumn sale ... [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Polly Plummer:
If you ever have a leaking pipe/radiator/washing machine, you'll be glad of all the old towels you can find!

This turned out to be prophetic. Fortunately I had kept most of the old towels after Drifting Star's comments.

The big move has happened and we are now unpacking. We have rented a lovely bungalow.

Had a major stress when I realised that it is fitted out with cream carpet in all the main areas [Ultra confused] [Help]

Managed to leave the old house in a good clean condition (I think). Very upset to discover that along with our possesions we have also managed to bring along a load of dust and cobwebs
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
Hit send by mistake. Then took too long editing.

After the removal men left I had four full bin bags of assorted rubbish to take to the tip.

All this stuff was just stored in the house basically. In future I'm going to try and be more vigilant about removing all the small and not so small bits and pieces that just get stuffed into cupboards and forgotten about.
 
Posted by Palimpsest (# 16772) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by North East Quine:

It's been doing the hokey-cokey in and out of the freezer for eight years, without ever being opened. I think I could usefully use it as drain cleaner. But no! Husband assures me he will drink it....one day. There's currently no room in the freezer, so he can't drink it yet.

There's always penne with vodka sauce
 
Posted by Cara (# 16966) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by North East Quine:
Today I decluttered two books to the charity book shop...and came out having bought five.

[Killing me]

Oh I can SO relate!

Having just decluttered quite a few books, I made the mistake today of going into a giant used-book sale- for charity--luckily most of the books were in French so, though I do read it, I was a bit less tempted...there were some English books as well and I am proud to say I only bought ONE (1). Though it may be one I already have somewhere. [Hot and Hormonal] ! (Hello Jane R, from another absent-minded book lover.)

I also asked if they were still taking donations, as i have some still around that I have put in the "giving-away bag"--this is dangerous as if they hang around too long I'm liable to put them back on the shelf! And they are not still taking donations so I need to take the bagful somewhere else...


Thyme, enjoy the rental bungalow--though I do share your trepidation about cream carpets! I love your resolve to be more vigilant about regularly clearing out those things that accumulate...any tips on how to KEEP this resolve will be much appreciated!
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
Rescuing the thread from hostly decluttering!

Still unpacking here. Hoping to get a couple of small bits of junk furniture decluttered at the weekend and get the stuff that isn't being unpacked till the final move more organised and tidy in the garage.
 
Posted by Eigon (# 4917) on :
 
I'm considering getting a new bed - and realised I haven't actually done this since the 1980s (when my mum told me what to do!).
I think I need to get rid of the old one - I've never liked divans, and the mattress is getting unpleasantly lumpy now. If I get the Council to take it away, I can also get rid of the old bike that's been in the shed for four years, and the old computer hard drive that isn't compatible with anything else any more.
Then I can sleep on the spare mattress until the new bed arrives - and since it's something I'm going to be using constantly for at least 10 - 15 years (and hopefully longer) I really want to get the best bed I can.
At the moment I'm rather taken by the idea of a small double Captain's Bed with all those storage drawers underneath....
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
Extra storage space is always useful - particularly if it frees up more shelf space for books!
 
Posted by Jane R (# 331) on :
 
Eigon:
quote:
At the moment I'm rather taken by the idea of a small double Captain's Bed with all those storage drawers underneath....


Ooh, that sounds nice. You do need to try out the bed before you buy it though - go and lie down on it in the shop.

This is quite embarrassing, especially if you are buying a bed for two (both of you need to lie on it at once) but is the only practical way of finding out if you like it.

It might be worth looking for an independent furniture store, if there are any in your area, rather than going to a big chain. We bought our last mattress from an independent shop and they were great - helpful and friendly, deliverymen turned up on time and did their thing, and the mattress cost about the same as one of a similar quality from Argos would have done.

(waves to Cara)

[ 14. November 2013, 13:37: Message edited by: Jane R ]
 
Posted by Golden Key (# 1468) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Welease Woderwick:
Extra storage space is always useful - particularly if it frees up more shelf space for books!

AMEN! [Smile]
 
Posted by Cara (# 16966) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jane R:
Eigon:
quote:
At the moment I'm rather taken by the idea of a small double Captain's Bed with all those storage drawers underneath....


Ooh, that sounds nice. You do need to try out the bed before you buy it though - go and lie down on it in the shop.

This is quite embarrassing, especially if you are buying a bed for two (both of you need to lie on it at once) but is the only practical way of finding out if you like it.

It might be worth looking for an independent furniture store, if there are any in your area, rather than going to a big chain. We bought our last mattress from an independent shop and they were great - helpful and friendly, deliverymen turned up on time and did their thing, and the mattress cost about the same as one of a similar quality from Argos would have done.

(waves to Cara)

Thank you for the wave, Jane!

Re beds, I think tempurpedic is the best. Costs a ridiculous amount of money, but once you have one, you are converted and realise it is worth it.

I agree wit the advice to lie down on the bed in the shop, however daft you think you look.

OK so I have a confession. I went back to that booktent/charity sale. I bought a few more books..... [Hot and Hormonal]

One of them may be one I already have [Hot and Hormonal] [Hot and Hormonal] [Hot and Hormonal]

But I did nearly buy another one I already have, until I realised at the last minute and put it back....so, kudos, eh?!
 
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Cara:
... I bought a few more books ... [Hot and Hormonal]

Well may you blush, Cara dear - this is a de-cluttering thread ... [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Pigwidgeon (# 10192) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by piglet:
quote:
Originally posted by Cara:
... I bought a few more books ... [Hot and Hormonal]

Well may you blush, Cara dear - this is a de-cluttering thread ... [Big Grin]
But books are NOT clutter!
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
Preach it!
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
I have frequently bought a book I already own! I have also bought another copy of books I have previously decluttered because I missed it or forgot I had read it.

When packing I discovered I had two copies of a book, when I distinctly remember giving my original copy away and buying a replacement, so presumably I have bought three copies of this book.

Also, I am sure that I found a duplicate of a book I had already packed in another bookshelf but it was too late to try and find the first copy to check. Maybe I will find out when I finally unpack and resort them into their new homes.

In other news the unpacking has ground to a halt. It feels like on of those puzzles where you have to move all the bits around to get the pattern and I don't know where to start.

The process of downsizing from a large house into this much smaller house has really focused our minds on what sort of house we want for a permanent home so it is very useful from that point of view.

But I would like to have my life back by the end of weekend.
 
Posted by Boogie (# 13538) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Thyme:

But I would like to have my life back by the end of weekend.

To give you time to read all those books [Biased]
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
[Hot and Hormonal] You have discovered my secret Boogie. I have a lot of books I thought/think I would like to read, but haven't.

I did manage to declutter some of them in the move, but still think I am going to read the rest sometime. Just cannot let go of this delusion!

I have tried to have a rule of no new books till I have read all the existing ones, but it doesn't work. Does slow down the rate of acquisition, but that is all.

[ 16. November 2013, 08:58: Message edited by: Thyme ]
 
Posted by Cara (# 16966) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Thyme:
[Hot and Hormonal] You have discovered my secret Boogie. I have a lot of books I thought/think I would like to read, but haven't.

I did manage to declutter some of them in the move, but still think I am going to read the rest sometime. Just cannot let go of this delusion!

I have tried to have a rule of no new books till I have read all the existing ones, but it doesn't work. Does slow down the rate of acquisition, but that is all.

Thyme, I SO relate to all of this! Among those books I naughtily bought the other day, a novel--not rubbish, and by a good writer, but still, a book I thought I would give away again right after reading--now have read it and might want to keep it after all...and yet, I still have so many unread books....

Oh dear. It is a bit of a disease.

But I have recently de-cluttered some papers into smaller, more organized clumps.....
 
Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on :
 
Books and reading are not a disease. How can something so pleasurable be called a disease? [Waterworks]
 
Posted by ArachnidinElmet (# 17346) on :
 
If it's a disease, I don't want to be well.
 
Posted by Golden Key (# 1468) on :
 
Books are not clutter. They tend to stay put, letting ideas bounce off each other and reproduce.
[Eek!]

All the OTHER flotsam and jetsam is clutter.

I've heard of people putting their mattresses directly on top of boxes of books. That way, they could just lift the mattress when they needed a book, and the books were housed out of the way.
 
Posted by Cara (# 16966) on :
 
Yes, yes, and Yes! To the above three posts about books.

(Except perhaps the mattress business, too much bother to lift it).

Of course deep down I don't really feel that it's a disease!
Or at any rate I do not want to be cured.

In fact, with the physical book perhaps in jeopardy now
[Eek!] [Eek!]
and bookshops most definitely in jeopardy or already gone
[Eek!] [Waterworks] [Frown] [Mad] [Confused] [Waterworks]
I feel it is incumbent on one to do one's best to preserve the physical book, and prove to bookshops that one does want and need places to browse through physical books and discover new ones by actually touching, opening and handling them.

So buying books is a Good Thing.

And therefore building up a bit of a library (!) is also a good thing and not to be seen as clutter.

Except perhaps for those extra copies one has inadvertently bought without realising one already had that book. Or for those books one knows one will never read or even pick up again.

However, piles of bits of paper and magazines newspapers and old receipts and brochures and.... ..now these ARE clutter. And the Bane of my Life.
.
 
Posted by Eigon (# 4917) on :
 
I bought the bed!
Having discussed with my other half (I'm in a long distance relationship) I decided to go for a proper double bed instead of the Captain's Bed, which will give both of us more room. So I was going to walk out to the edge of town big store to see what they had, when I noticed a sign pointing to a local firm's warehouse much closer to the centre of town.
I saw the bed I was looking for almost as I walked through the door. The sales lady was lovely, and I now have a bed frame and mattress coming on Friday, and they'll take away the old bed - and it was all so easy!
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
Congratulations Eigon, and hope you are having sweet dreams.
 
Posted by Eigon (# 4917) on :
 
The new bed is, indeed, marvellous - and now I have space under it to store things, I have been having a massive clear out and move around of stuff.
In particular, I decided that I would never actually use the four bin bags full of material that I have been hoarding over the past ten years to do patchwork, so that's going down to the local Oxfam, where they like to offer material for patchwork.
 
Posted by Jane R (# 331) on :
 
Other Half is having a massive clearout of his home office. We're up to 12 bin bags full of junk and he hasn't finished yet...

Not counting all the stuff that can be given away to the next jumble sale or passed on to friends!

Now all I have to do is persuade him to declutter the rest of the house [Yipee]
 
Posted by daisydaisy (# 12167) on :
 
Another 2 bags of clothes OUT to the charity shop, making space for 2 new items IN. But a pile of magazines arrived IN from a neighbour - eventually faces will be cut out and stored for kids crafts, but first they simply must be read in case there is a key article.... maybe on decluttering [Razz]
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
Congratulations on getting rid of the patchwork fabrics Eigon. It is as hard to get rid of that sort of thing as it is to get rid of books imo.

And congratulations to daisydaisy on getting rid of the clothes.

I have been mia recently. Decluttering of a sad and macabre nature, clearing Dad's room in his nursing home following his death. I was very grateful that other family members took on organising this.

Another resident's daughter said that she would have to do this soon, but also has her relative's house to clear. Such a difficult process. [Votive]

In due course I will be decluttering all his paperwork. I had a look at the files and I could probably get rid of a lot immediately or could have let it go a long time ago. But I felt I should keep it all as a record of how we administered his affairs should anyone ever ask. It will go once the estate is dealt with and all is finally over.

The funeral is next week. Another sort of decluttering. I take refuge in this type of dark 'humour' so do not be offended.
[Hot and Hormonal] [Tear]
 
Posted by Pigwidgeon (# 10192) on :
 
[Votive] Thyme
 
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on :
 
[Votive] indeed, for literal and emotional de-cluttering.
 
Posted by daisydaisy (# 12167) on :
 
[Votive] a hard time indeed - be careful not to be too drastic though, as I was with my mother's paperwork when I got rid of some letters from my father that I realise now that I would have treasured - thankfully I did read them first.
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
The house is fast filling up with Christmas clutter.

Over on the English thread we are talking about cleaning windows and how people who have eye surgery often remark how their furnishings need cleaning now they can see properly!

I suppose the advice to clean things according to a routine and calendar whether they appear to be dirty or not and not waiting till they 'get dirty' is the solution to this and much else.

I think I will make an effort with this after Christmas.

We are hoping to move into a very new house and get it all redecorated and carpeted immediately. Plus some new furniture. All the manky old stuff went to the tip during the move. So no excuses to keep it looking clean.

[ 10. December 2013, 18:36: Message edited by: Thyme ]
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
I'm sure I decluttered the herbs and spices a few months ago before the move.

So how have I got a packet of spice with a use by date of 2011????? [Confused]

How does this happen?
 
Posted by Nenya (# 16427) on :
 
I need to declutter the breakfast bar before Christmas. At present there's a sea of stuff on it that has to be pushed aside if I'm serving up a meal. [Frown]

The small spare room is also full of stuff that needs sorting.

[Confused]

Nen - deeply discouraged about it all.
 
Posted by Boogie (# 13538) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nenya:
I need to declutter the breakfast bar before Christmas.

15 minutes a day - go for it!!

[Smile]
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Thyme:
I'm sure I decluttered the herbs and spices a few months ago before the move.

So how have I got a packet of spice with a use by date of 2011????? [Confused]

How does this happen?

Make sure you lock all the doors at night, I think they sneak in during the night.
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Welease Woderwick:
quote:
Originally posted by Thyme:
I'm sure I decluttered the herbs and spices a few months ago before the move.

So how have I got a packet of spice with a use by date of 2011????? [Confused]

How does this happen?

Make sure you lock all the doors at night, I think they sneak in during the night.
I think the cat brings them in to season it's prey.

I visited someone else's house yesterday that was so uncluttered I think I'll move in (uninvited),

Huia - feeling jealous, and messy
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Huia:
[QUOTE]

I visited someone else's house yesterday that was so uncluttered I think I'll move in (uninvited),

Huia - feeling jealous, and messy

Someone whose house is messy beyond belief (at least to me) came round to collect something from our place yesterday. I'd just finished the cleaning (and the pre-cleaning tidying-up) and it did look lovely.

He looked round and said 'ah, a house without small children - what life can be like!' I'm very fond of him, so I refrained from pointing out that even when we had small children it would have driven me crazy to live in a house like his...

Mrs. S, smug - just don't look in the little back bedroom, aka Santa's Grotto! [Help]
 
Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :
 
I lost it yesterday. We were given a lovely Caithness glass bowl as a wedding present, 25 years ago, which has been in daily use as a fruit bowl, and yesterday it cracked right across, but didn't actually break. I was trying to decide whether it should go in the bin, or the glass recycling box, and my family told me I couldn't get rid of it because it was "sentimental" I pointed out that it was about to break into two potentially lethally sharp bits, but the solution apparently was to put it somewhere just to sit there gathering dust, and not use it, touch it, dust it or interact with it in any way.

I have disposed of it. I can't understand why my family are so reluctant to get rid of broken stuff. Our home would be so much nicer if we didn't hang on to broken stuff.

I feel a steely resolve descend - I WILL declutter this house.
 
Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :
 
And possibly the first thing I will declutter will be teenage son, who yesterday told me I couldn't get rid of the cracked bowl.

Today I asked if he'd like to take the "Coke" glasses back to Uni with him tomorrow, as he is the only Coke drinker and he's mostly not here. And he said he'd rather not, as he has no space, and one of the things he enjoys about living in his flat at University is the lack of clutter. Apparently he doesn't want his Uni flat to end up looking like home.

[Mad]

He is lucky not to have been decluttered and buried six feet down in the back garden.

[Mad]
 
Posted by Firenze (# 619) on :
 
I hear you. The number of things lurking in cupboards in our house against the day when my husband is going to superglue them back together..
 
Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :
 
We have a collection of broken kettles etc in our garden shed, which my husband plans to cannabalise into a robot.

The original plan was to enter "Robot Wars." You'd have thought that the fact that that series ended in 2004 might have put a dampener on the plan, but no.

[brick wall] [brick wall] [brick wall]
 
Posted by Firenze (# 619) on :
 
We're still hanging on to a tome entitled 'Secrets of Windows '95'. For when that comes back again.
 
Posted by Pigwidgeon (# 10192) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Firenze:
We're still hanging on to a tome entitled 'Secrets of Windows '95'. For when that comes back again.

In the year 2095?
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
I have just tidied [AND DUSTED!] half of the desk in my bedroom - I may do the rest later, when I recover a bit!
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
Windows 95 seems like a bad dream now, doesn't it?

Anyway, the decluttering and dusting of the desk in the bedroom is completed and the bedside cabinets are also decluttered and dusted!

I am rather chuffed with my little self.

A month or two ago I bought a dusting glove thingy that you wet then wring out and wear to wipe over the surfaces and then just rinse and the dust fals out - I think it is made of polypropylene but am not sure - it certainly seems to work.
 
Posted by Ethne Alba (# 5804) on :
 
Amazon is still helping and it Is a financial incentive. But we've rather stalled.

Or had.
Until Christmas arrangements broke down and we've got twelve altogether staying here for Christmas. A this is a small house.

Unless i am to sleep children and grandchildren in a shed, we will Have to declutter, on a very large scale and within two days.
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
I am beginning to think there is something wrong with me - we watched Britain's Craziest Christmas Lights last night, it was on Channel 5 and showed 5 or so families who regularly plastered their houses with Christmas lights (narrated by Noddy Holder, yet).

Watching one of them, living in quite a small house stuffed to the rafters with boxes of lights, and with ex-Blackpool Illumination lights stored on the landing, I felt VERY uncomfortable indeed (not to mention concerned about the fire risks!). How do they LIVE like that, all year round? [Eek!]

Is it just me? [Confused]

Mrs. S, still very uncomfortable
 
Posted by Mrs Shrew (# 8635) on :
 
The great Shrew move is in progress. Mr Shrew gets nervous about big changes so we have kept our rented place another month, and are moving a bit at a time (except essentials which all moved last weekend with us). I'm trying to take the opportunity to do a fairly ruthless declutter. having some success with things which are obviously junk, although kitchen utensils are still to go, and they are my nemesis. It's easier to do when you have to decide to move it into your home though
Nothing more will happen till Christmas though, as we are luckily going away for Christmas.
 
Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :
 
I have started at my back door and intend to work my way systematically through the whole house. I've decluttered 3 cupboards, 1 drawer and a small piece of work surface so far, resulting in a small amount binned and a box heading for the charity shop.
 
Posted by Nenya (# 16427) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by North East Quine:
I have started at my back door and intend to work my way systematically through the whole house. I've decluttered 3 cupboards, 1 drawer and a small piece of work surface so far, resulting in a small amount binned and a box heading for the charity shop.

[Overused]

One of the hardest things is knowing where to start. And wherever you do start it feels as though anywhere else would be so much easier. [Roll Eyes]

Nen - whose breakfast bar is actually looking quite good.
 
Posted by Otter (# 12020) on :
 
Decluttering at work today. I've got several square feet of open desk space that weren't there when I started this morning. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :
 
It turns out we have "sentimental" salt. No, I can't pass our second salt-grinder onto son-at-uni because it has "sentimental" salt in it. The second salt-grinder hasn't been used once in the past two years, and is unlikely to be used at any point in the next two, or even possibly ever, but we have to keep it.

[brick wall]

(The salt came from a salt mine in Poland which we visited, hence the reason for it being "sentimental.")
 
Posted by Firenze (# 619) on :
 
How unfortunate if it were to come in contact with some deeply cynical water.
 
Posted by Heavenly Anarchist (# 13313) on :
 
Could you decant the salt, perhaps putting it in a sealed urn on your mantelpiece? [Biased]
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
Perhaps it should be used in cooking the family meals thus becoming one eternally with the family body who will truly be one body and the salt of earth.

Or something.

You might have to bury the container and put a little memorial stone on the plot.
 
Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :
 
The salt cellar/grinder we actually use matches the pepper mill we actually use, so I can't give that one to son-at-uni. We really, really don't need two salt cellar/grinder things (are they called "salt mills"?) Son-at-uni doesn't have a salt grinder and might actually use it. But it's "sentimental" so he can't have it, apparently.

We did drop off a small boxful of stuff to the charity shop today, though. There is hope.
 
Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by North East Quine:
Originally posted by Thyme:
quote:
Next up - some video tapes. I never watch them. We still have a video recorder but my DH says it doesn't work with the new TV. I haven't been able to persuade him to dump the recorder.
This is a bugbear in the NE household. Our video started to go a bit funny about 3 years ago. So the North East Man decided that we'd stop using it to watch videos, and would use it solely to transfer our videos onto DVD. When he had the time. Except that he hasn't had the time at any point in the intervening 3 years. So we have a bookcase full of videos which we haven't watched in 3 years, but which have to stay because I'm the only one who is happy to bin them (local charity shops are no longer accepting videos). And we have a teetering pile of DVDs next to the TV, which can't get put away, because the shelves are full of redundant videos....

As I'm the one who dusts and hoovers round the stuff, I'm the one who's most inconvenienced, but, alas, this doesn't give me extra voting rights on what should happen. Sigh.

I posted this on 2 March. I have managed to reduce the number of videos by stealth since then. However, it turned out the North East Man wasn't as oblivious to my annoyance as I thought. He heard that someone else was chucking out a broken video player and claimed it, on the basis that if he ever got round to fixing our broken video player it would be handy to have spare parts. So we now have fewer videos, but an extra broken video player.


[brick wall]
 
Posted by Boogie (# 13538) on :
 
I decluttered the porch yesterday and completely cleared the patio = Hurrah!!

[Yipee]

[ 21. December 2013, 12:29: Message edited by: Boogie ]
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
I was chuckling over North East Quine's video recorder collection when my new Dyson vacuum cleaner arrived.

Now the old Dyson was inherited from a parent in 2006 and quite old but I bought it a lot of extra accessories. It had an accident recently after a plumbing disaster and thought it was a wet cleaner. While waiting to see if it would dry out and recover without electrocuting me I had to buy a new cleaner, (on sale in the nearest supermarket, not a Dyson) to complete the cleaning which couldn't wait.

Well, this new cleaner was wonderful, so light and manoeuvrable. The old Dyson was very efficient but heavy and hard to steer. Really I never liked it and hated getting it out.

So I thought I would get rid of it when I had time to think about it.

Meanwhile Dyson brought out a new small, lightweight, highly manouverable model, delivered today. I also bought extra accessories which were on offer with the machine. [Roll Eyes]

So I have had a little play with the new Dyson and it is very, very nice. And thinking about how to dispose of the old one. Not too keen on freecycling it because of the water accident.

Did I mention I also have a Dyson handheld cordless, with accessories? [Big Grin]

And I found myself wondering if all the various accessories would fit the new machine. And if not maybe I should keep the big old Dyson for cleaning the car interior with the special car accessories? Or other jobs.

I caught myself just in time. If I did that I would have no less than four vacuum cleaners.

Also I rarely vacuum the car as I take it to the hand wash and valet car place every so often, as I hate cleaning the car and tell myself I am helping poor immigrants and refugees and redistributing wealth if I pay them to do it.

Owning expensive Dyson accessories did not, I discovered, motivate me to clean it more often. Neither have I ever used them for other jobs.

So the big old Dyson is in the garage and will go to the tip before Christmas. That was narrow escape on the slippery slope to hoarding vacuum cleaners.

I will keep the accessories though till I have time to try and fit them on the remaining machines.

Yes, I am keeping the brand new machine that was temporary fix when I hoovered up a small pond with the old Dyson, and I have the brand new Dyson and the handheld Dyson. I am keeping all these. Ad all the accessories that still fit - when I get round to it.

I am feeling a bit more empathy with people who end up with loads of old broken gadgets they never use. It can happen to anyone given the right circumstances and gadgets. There but for the grace of God......
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
Thyme, that post is priceless.

I recognise some of my own behaviour there too, which makes it even funnier,

Huia
 
Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :
 
We have [Axe murder] BobTwo [Axe murder] who is a Roomba. I love him. We also still have Bob the Roomba which died when the North East Man tipped a full mug of coffee over him. Apparently, he might get fixed at some point. Plus an indifferent Dyson. And a hand-held which is officially for the rarely-cleaned car.
 
Posted by Pigwidgeon (# 10192) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by North East Quine:
...when the North East Man tipped a full mug of coffee over him. Apparently, he might get fixed at some point.

Seems a bit drastic for one mug of spilled coffee.
[Eek!]
 
Posted by Mrs Shrew (# 8635) on :
 
We also have a roomba. Seriously amazing and has vastly improved both how clean and how clear our floors are.
 
Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Pigwidgeon:
quote:
Originally posted by North East Quine:
...when the North East Man tipped a full mug of coffee over him. Apparently, he might get fixed at some point.

Seems a bit drastic for one mug of spilled coffee.
[Eek!]

[Two face]

Does your Roomba have a name, Mrs Shrew? I loved my Bob, and now I love my BobTwo.
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
Housework is a totally unnecesary evil - as Quentin Crisp said "After 4 years the dust doesn't get any worse!" The only purpose I can find for housework is as an avoidance technique when I really should be doing something else.
 
Posted by Mrs Shrew (# 8635) on :
 
His name is Little Roomba, which doesn't sound terribly imaginative but works for us. we do sit and cheer him on when he is cleaning, and I am very attached to him.

Today I am going to tackle my wardrobe - ruthlessness is the only answer. I have quite a few clothes which don't fit properly, but I have recently enough been unable to afford even second hand clothing that I am hoarding them. I Need to accept that even if I do lose weight it is a slow process, and that fighting through things that don't fit or that I don't really like only holds me back.
Nearly all of the things which don't fit are in very good condition, so should raise a good amount for charity shops.
 
Posted by Nenya (# 16427) on :
 
Video tapes and recorders... sentimental salt... vacuum cleaners... [Killing me] Thank you so much to everyone for these posts which have given me a smile this damp and dreary morning. [Smile]

I am gearing up for a Major Declutter once Christmas is over and I know now where I'm going to start, which helps. [Big Grin] We are trying to clear our spare room so that we can reorganise things to decorate our bedroom - Mr Nen finds it impossible to decorate a room unless it's completely empty of everything. This will involve major reorganisation in every bedroom except for the one Nenlet2 sleeps in. At least, I'm hoping that one is immune. [Eek!]

Interested in the vacuum discussion as ours needs replacing sometime fairly soon. Have not come across a Roomba or a Bob but have heard good reports of Henry.

Nen - whose vacuum cleaners last well on account of the fact they don't get out much. [Biased]
 
Posted by Mrs Shrew (# 8635) on :
 
Henry is generally a good one, and they last very well. Roomba is a robot vacuum cleaner - you charge it up (it has a little docking station) then push "clean" and it makes a happy little noise then goes off and cleans until
a). It thinks the room/area is clean
b). It's full (embarrassingly this happened the first time we used it, but since then it hasn't)
c). It runs out of charge (only happens if you use it lots without charging.)
It then attempts to return to dock.
We love ours because it takes all the effort out of vacuuming. Also because it is a robot and Mr Shrew is very excited by robots.

It has a little gizmo to make a virtual wall if you don't want it to go somewhere, otherwise it just goes round anywhere it can get to. It also doesn't fall down stairs..... (we tested thoroughly just in case)
 
Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :
 
Ours Roomba gets full almost everytime! We have a cockatiel which sprays out seed husks, and so the area round the cockatiel needs hoovered pretty much every day.

I didn't want the cockatiel, on the basis that I would be the one landed with any extra cleaning, but I was over-ruled and - surprise - I ended up with extra cleaning. The robot vacuum was the family solution; it would save me from having to hoover daily, but wouldn't involve any other member of the family in extra work.

I love the Roomba; it makes happy little noises and it hoovers very well. Unfortunately they aren't coffee-proof, so try to avoid pouring a full mug of coffee over them.
 
Posted by QLib (# 43) on :
 
I'm another one who should be replacing the vacuum cleaner. Unsatisfactory state of the carpets aside, I have cleared (most of) the clutter from downstairs and the guest bedroom, and my own bedroom doesn't look too bad - I have enough floor space to do my morning yoga up there. The nut crackers and bottle openers have a place to be, and the Christmas cards are all up. Guests arrive tomorrow [Smile]
 
Posted by Mrs Shrew (# 8635) on :
 
The wardrobe is now tidy, and I managed quite a bit of ruthlessness, including a couple of things I was attached to but knew I wouldn't wear again. Feeling quite proud!
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
I love you all - the thought that there are people like you out there in the world does wonders for my sanity!

[Overused]

Have a fabulous Christmas, everyone [Angel] because afterwards we're ALL going to have to declutter All Over Again [Two face]

Mrs. S, chuckling to herself
 
Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :
 
My decluttering is going on at a steady pace; I'm now half-way round the kitchen. I've been cleaning as I go, and replaced the extractor filter, so though I'm not progressing quickly, I'm pleased with the way it's going.

The history buff in me loves old lists of items, so I had the idea that I would inventorise as I went along; posterity might appreciate a list of the contents of a kitchen c2013. I have a table on the computer, with a column for the provenance of each item, and tick columns for "useful" and "beautiful". Any item which is neither useful nor beautiful is being decluttered.

This approach has stunned my family, not exactly into silence, but enough for them to wary of uttering the "sentimental" word. There is no column in my table for "sentimental"!
 
Posted by Boogie (# 13538) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by North East Quine:

I love the Roomba; it makes happy little noises and it hoovers very well. Unfortunately they aren't coffee-proof, so try to avoid pouring a full mug of coffee over them.

I really fancy one - but fear that my 8 month old labrador may think I've bought her a fab new toy!

[Smile]
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
Boogie: He, he! I'm just glad I didn't know about Roomba's before I spent all my cleaning gadget money!

North East Quine: Good luck!

[ 23. December 2013, 13:44: Message edited by: Thyme ]
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by North East Quine:
My decluttering is going on at a steady pace; I'm now half-way round the kitchen. I've been cleaning as I go, and replaced the extractor filter, so though I'm not progressing quickly, I'm pleased with the way it's going.

The history buff in me loves old lists of items, so I had the idea that I would inventorise as I went along; posterity might appreciate a list of the contents of a kitchen c2013. I have a table on the computer, with a column for the provenance of each item, and tick columns for "useful" and "beautiful". Any item which is neither useful nor beautiful is being decluttered.

This approach has stunned my family, not exactly into silence, but enough for them to wary of uttering the "sentimental" word. There is no column in my table for "sentimental"!

You star - that's fantastic! [Overused]

Mrs. S, humbled
 
Posted by daisydaisy (# 12167) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by The Intrepid Mrs S:
I
Have a fabulous Christmas, everyone [Angel] because afterwards we're ALL going to have to declutter All Over Again [Two face]

Mrs. S, chuckling to herself

I echo that - and maybe we should be thinking about leading the way next year in giving consumable gifts that cannot possibly be considered as clutter,
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by The Intrepid Mrs S:
I love you all - the thought that there are people like you out there in the world does wonders for my sanity!...

Mrs. S, chuckling to herself

I think this is the first time ever that I have mentioned as an aid to sanity!
 
Posted by Boogie (# 13538) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by daisydaisy:
.... maybe we should be thinking about leading the way next year in giving consumable gifts that cannot possibly be considered as clutter,

Ah but ... all those lovely jars that might 'come in'!


[Devil]
 
Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :
 
I have just cleared out "that" kitchen drawer; the one that had 13 plastic Calpol spoons, several bottle openers accumulated from crackers and a broken whisk, as well as stuff we actually use like cheese knives, rolling pins and the pizza cutter.

I don't know how much I've decluttered, but it's been quite a lot, and I've put 87 "useful" items back in.

87!

Our local food bank asked our church to supply tin-openers as they have had families refusing tinned food because they have no tin opener. Meanwhile, I have the full panoply of apple corer / melon baller /salad servers / corn-on-the-cob skewers / ice cream scoop etc etc. So much "stuff" that it's actually become a nuisance.
 
Posted by Ethne Alba (# 5804) on :
 
re: the salt discussion earlier

Spent time at Mums this Christmas and finally her old and cracked salt cellar could go.

OhMyGoodness....if you are holding onto an old salt cellar, please check the wretched things?

Took the top of Mums ( outwardly very clean) salt cellar top...and EEEw: The SMELL [Frown]

GROSS...utterly gross......and full of something godawefully terible as well

(jusssayin)
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
Oooherrr, Ethne Alba! This is part of why I have put so much effort into decluttering and getting a cleaning routine sorted over the last few years.

I don't want to get old and not realise how icky everything has got, even if it does look outwardly clean.

North East Quine, impressive effort with the drawer of doom on Boxing Day [Smile]

Used my parents good dinner service and glassware over Christmas. Have finally decided to keep it. I have been dithering about it for several years.

Now to get Christmas cleared up!
 
Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :
 
Another day, another cupboard decluttered. I had a similar experience to your salt discovery Ethne Alba. We bought a tin of Lentils de Puy as a souvenir many years ago. We used the lentils and I was under the impression that the pretty tin was lying empty. It was in today's cupboard and I discovered I must have refilled it with normal lentils - but when?

I am so pleased to have finally got round to decluttering.

I have now catalogued 766 items in my kitchen, and that's erring on the conservative side, counting things like a cup and saucer as one item.
 
Posted by Eigon (# 4917) on :
 
I'm starting to lurk around antique/junk shops with a tape measure in my pocket.
When I moved into this house, over ten years ago, I was given furniture from my mum's old house, and the kitchen table has always been too big for the living room (my house is much smaller than her's was).
Now I have a little bit of spare cash, I'm looking for a smaller table/computer desk which actually fits in the space. I'm thinking of a drop-leaf table, but it has to fit into a space which is quite limited, and it has to be the right height.
Then the kitchen table and four chairs can go onto Freecycle.
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
I've found what I wanted on Preloved
 
Posted by daisydaisy (# 12167) on :
 
Preloved p is great - I found my first flute there, and just before Christmas managed to find a buyer for it there too (I upgraded so didn't need the original one)
 
Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :
 
I have decluttered my whole kitchen! [Yipee] [Yipee] [Yipee]
 
Posted by Japes (# 5358) on :
 
[Overused]

That is impressive, NEQ.
 
Posted by Jengie Jon (# 273) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by North East Quine:
I have decluttered my whole kitchen! [Yipee] [Yipee] [Yipee]

If this is what finishing thesis does to people then role on finishing thesis.

Jengie
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
NEQ [Overused] And in the run up to Christmas too!
 
Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jengie Jon:
quote:
Originally posted by North East Quine:
I have decluttered my whole kitchen! [Yipee] [Yipee] [Yipee]

If this is what finishing thesis does to people then role on finishing thesis.

Jengie

Perhaps it's a way of not thinking about my upcoming viva. I mean, my viva's not till 2014 - that's ages away, right?
 
Posted by Boogie (# 13538) on :
 
I thought I was doing well on the decluttering front 'till we went to my friend's for a meal on Christmas day.

It was sooooooo tidy and relaxed and lovely and comfortable - I now have a new decluttered role model.

It's going to take years .............
 
Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :
 
On a roll ... I have decluttered my airing cupboard!
 
Posted by Ethne Alba (# 5804) on :
 
Found a lost potato, it had ben hiding for a while.....it looks like an alien!
 
Posted by FooloftheShip (# 15579) on :
 
I'm really struggling to get going. I keep taking things out and thinking "well, I kind of need that but have no idea where to put it or how to store it". At present, therefore, I'm making mess rather than sorting anything. Grrrr.
 
Posted by Heavenly Anarchist (# 13313) on :
 
I've decluttered my glass cutting desk, the incentive being my new lampwork torch [Smile]
Later this week I'm tackling the study, aka the sewing room.
 
Posted by Eigon (# 4917) on :
 
Preloved looks good - but I'm happy to say that I found the perfect table in a shop about five minutes walk from my house - and the shopkeeper carried it home for me!
And I have six people interested in my old table, so I'm just waiting to hear back from the one I've offered it to, and if he declines I'll offer it down the list.
 
Posted by Barnabas Aus (# 15869) on :
 
We're off to a flying start here. We attacked the built-in wardrobe yesterday. Four bags of clothes ready to go to the local charity shops, and Mrs BA has discovered a heap of clothes which she can fit into once again, including one dress which still has the shop tag attached.

I have been in the study sorting and discarding obsolete agenda, copies of minutes, outdated correspondence and the like from the last twelve months, and most flat surfaces are now decluttered, papers filed or ready for recycling.

We've just got to keep the momentum going. We have family visiting from UK in April, one of whom is a bit OCD about clutter and the like, so I'd like to have the place reasonably clear prior to their arrival.
 
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on :
 
I must join in this thread with serious intent this spring (whatever that is), as D. informed me today that an old friend of his is going to Toronto in May and would like to stop off in St. John's for a few days en route.

I'll have to find the spare bedroom, and when I find it, tidy it out ... [Eek!]
 
Posted by Nenya (# 16427) on :
 
Oh, lawks, 2014. This is the year when It's All Supposed To Happen. [Help] But New Year's Day is still the holidays, so things like the diet and the decluttering don't start till tomorrow, right?

Nen - procrastinating.
 
Posted by Heavenly Anarchist (# 13313) on :
 
My new year's resolution is a declutter a day. But my resolutions never really start until the children are back at school [Smile] I'll do a small declutter today though, possibly the side in my glass room.
 
Posted by Nenya (# 16427) on :
 
What is a small declutter, though? If I throw two receipts away does that count?

Nen - good at discussing decluttering, rubbish at doing it. [Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
Everything counts!!!! [Cool]
 
Posted by Boogie (# 13538) on :
 
OK

Today's small declutter is that drawer.

I am going to get rid of/sort out everything in it and re-assign its purpose completely.

I'll be back to report when it's done!
 
Posted by Pigwidgeon (# 10192) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nenya:
What is a small declutter, though? If I throw two receipts away does that count?

Nen - good at discussing decluttering, rubbish at doing it. [Roll Eyes]

Two receipts or other pieces of paper a day -- you'll have gotten rid of 730 pieces by the end of the year! (As long as you don't let new pieces of paper accumulate.)
 
Posted by Cottontail (# 12234) on :
 
By mid February I will have been in this house for a year. So I am making mid February the deadline for finally getting my study up and working. I have been using it as a dumping ground, and still have to climb over boxes to get to my books. Enough is enough.

On the plus side, I now have a filing cabinet and have just ordered suspension files for it. So soon I can start on all the paper work. But today I will work on clearing a space in the middle of the floor.

Also, my very handy niece and nephews stayed over last Saturday. The 15 year old loves all sorts of joinery, and brought his tools with him, so between us, we finally built the two single beds for the guest room. So that is another room finished. [Yipee]
 
Posted by Boogie (# 13538) on :
 
The drawer is done!

Hurrah!

[Yipee]
 
Posted by Jack the Lass (# 3415) on :
 
I like the small declutter idea. I have a few projects which would really benefit from it - the area by my bed (chest of drawers, wardrobe, shelves) which is currently several piles of clothes which desperately need sorting out; the baby's room; and the spare room/study. I will do a little each day - today's was moving baby stuff from the living room into the baby's room - it's still a mess in there, but she will be sleeping in our room for a while yet, so the theory is that little and often we can get her room ready for the time she moves in there. And at least now there is room on the sofa for more than one person to sit on it without being covered in baby stuff.

The baby's room used to be my study, so I am in the process (v.long process, sigh) of moving my stuff out and into the spare room. Realistically the study will be the last room to be done, so my intermediate goals are to sort out our room, get the study stuff out of the baby's room, and get the baby's room tidied and like a bedroom rather than a dumping ground. If I can do odd bits of unpacking in the study as well that would be great, but that is a bit more of an undertaking.
 
Posted by Polly Plummer (# 13354) on :
 
Family coming to stay in August: I think I'll have to start clearing out the spare bedroom some time soon. I did spot the spare bed in there under a pile of things today, so that gives me some encouragement!
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Cottontail:
Also, my very handy niece and nephews stayed over last Saturday. The 15 year old loves all sorts of joinery, and brought his tools with him, so between us, we finally built the two single beds for the guest room. So that is another room finished. [Yipee]

Bringing a whole new dimension to visitors making their own beds, I love it!

I am working on my kitchen, having fimally bought a ladder I feel safe using. The big Dhristmas cake tins now have a home in the top cupboard, whereas the muffin tins, used fortnightly will live in a more convienient location.

I thought I had solved the problem of too many cookery books, but the small bookcase I was planning on using doesn't have high enough shelves.

Today my target is the cupoard with kitchen appliances, which has accumulated some very odd things. I listen to a story on a CD as I declutter, which makes it bearable.

Huia
 
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Polly Plummer:
... I did spot the spare bed in there under a pile of things today ...

Have you any idea how much better that makes me feel?

[Big Grin]
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
[Waterworks] Why is it that on the journey toward uncluttered things get more messy before they get tidier? [Waterworks]

Cleanliness may be next to Godliness, but tidiness is next to impossible.

I'm off for a bike ride to the shops taking the scenic route to give me a break and help me to think through the logistics of where things go.

Huia
 
Posted by Heavenly Anarchist (# 13313) on :
 
I cleared 3 bin bags of fabric today from my sewing room/study and hope to have many more tomorrow. I used to have a small home business making children's clothing and cloth nappies, mostly using recycled fabrics, but I don't sew as much these days and I'd like to reclaim some of the room or at least see the floor again.
I have one and half bags of clothing for the charity shop too.
 
Posted by Golden Key (# 1468) on :
 
{H/As: Hope this is ok to post. I checked the 10 Cs and the FAQs, and didn't see any forbiddance. I don't have any connection with the site nor the teacher.}

Stephanie Bennett Vogt, author of the space-clearing book Your Spacious Self, is teaching a year-long, online course called A Year to Clear What's Holding You Back!


The fee is on a sliding scale. You can choose to pay as little as $1. I've been on her mailing list for some time, and also have her book. She writes well. She's very supportive--she's been impossibly cluttered, so she really gets it.

Anyway, I could use some hand-holding, and figured you might, too.

FWIW, YMMV.
 
Posted by Golden Key (# 1468) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Huia:
Cleanliness may be next to Godliness, but tidiness is next to impossible.

God may find that very comforting--otherwise, She'd have lots of competition for Her job! [Biased]

Hmmm...then maybe clutter is a heavenly plot?
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Golden Key:
...Hmmm...then maybe clutter is a heavenly plot?

In that case my disaster of a desk may be part of god's will and perhaps I should leave it like it is.

[Two face]
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
Well, New Year's Day in the UK was atrocious in terms of weather and Mr. S was prowling around looking for some trouble to get into, so I suggested we declutter his wardrobe. He's absolutely the tidiest person I know, but since he retired 4 years ago he has a ton of clothes he doesn't need, and all the storage is rammed with MORE clothes I'm sure he's forgotten he has.

Decluttering always makes me feel better on a bad weather day, so I thought that would be a really good plan.

His excuse? After the blow-out of New Year's Eve, there was no use trying on clothes, as all that would fit him would be the muu muu and the judicial robes [Killing me]

I had to admit he had a point [Overused]

Mrs. S, married to Homer Simpson
 
Posted by Alban (# 9047) on :
 
2014 - you might see me on here a bit. This summer I've been waterblasting driveway, repainting fence and deck, all this avoiding the vast amount of clutter waiting to be sorted.
I'm scared, but I figure this is the time...
 
Posted by Boogie (# 13538) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Alban:
2014 - you might see me on here a bit. This summer I've been waterblasting driveway, repainting fence and deck, all this avoiding the vast amount of clutter waiting to be sorted.
I'm scared, but I figure this is the time...

Welcome Alban!

The way I do it is to set aside 15 minutes a day - doesn't sound much but the job IS getting done!

Today's job is the dog's cupboard.

[Smile]
 
Posted by Pigwidgeon (# 10192) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by The Intrepid Mrs S:
His excuse? After the blow-out of New Year's Eve, there was no use trying on clothes, as all that would fit him would be the muu muu and the judicial robes [Killing me]

And how many of those does he have?
[Biased]
 
Posted by Yangtze (# 4965) on :
 
Joining in for the new year. There is no doubt I have too much stuff. And mostly it's 'will come in useful someday' and/or 'sentimental value' stuff.... ;-)

Have spend the last few days beginning to get to grips on some of it. Some of the old make-up and toiletries have been ditched. But I am still awash in 'smellies', mainly ones people have given me. And of course it's true they will all come in useful some day. But I seem to be given them faster than I can use them. Some judicious re-gifting is necessary I think.

Today, I have tackled some of the old magazine stack.
 
Posted by Heavenly Anarchist (# 13313) on :
 
Today I have cleared 2 more bags of fabric from the sewing room and might tackle some more later.
 
Posted by Heavenly Anarchist (# 13313) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Heavenly Anarchist:
Today I have cleared 2 more bags of fabric from the sewing room and might tackle some more later.

Make that 4 bin bags full [Eek!] in my defence, I am clearing out my old home business!
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
I became so dispirited with the kitchen cupboards yesterday that I wandered into the spare bedroom and rebuilt the shelves that hadn't been finished since I had to move out for post earthquake repairs. This will mean that the decluttering in other areas will become easier as I can sort out books and craft supplies that haven't had a proper home - which in turn will allow me to decluter them, rather than having anonymous mixed stuff in my bedroom [Yipee]

The other thing I remembered was that I had got rid of a bookcase in a dangerous position, but not the books that went on it - so it's no wonder books are everywhere. (Yes, I know it's obvious, but I notice that things that happened then were outside my immediate awareness, but are now coming back).

Maybe the mind declutters of all but the urgent things in an emergency.
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Pigwidgeon:
quote:
Originally posted by The Intrepid Mrs S:
His excuse? After the blow-out of New Year's Eve, there was no use trying on clothes, as all that would fit him would be the muu muu and the judicial robes [Killing me]

And how many of those does he have?
[Biased]

Not enough to wear every day - and he certainly isn't allowed to buy any more! [Two face]

Incidentally I see there's an article on the Daily Telegraph website about decluttering wardrobes, but I'm not going to look at it online as we buy the actual paper on Saturday - or we will when I get my (non-decluttered) wetsuit from the back of my wardrobe and go out to get it!

Mrs. S, nerving herself
 
Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :
 
Kitchen, airing cupboard, bathroom done. Next in my "start at the back door and work round" is our dining "room" which is semi open plan with our hall.

The curtains came with the house, ten years ago, and we've never really liked them, but couldn't agree on a replacement. Yesterday I took them down to wash as step one in the declutter and one tore! Yay! We now have to stop faffing and choose curtains!

Plus, languishing in our dining room was a genuine 1960s bottle lamp, which the North East Man greatly admired when he was six, and saw his uncle making it. He inherited it last year, on the basis that he was the only family member who liked it. (Not only do we treasure up broken junk on account of it being "sentimental" but other people offload their broken junk onto us!!) We've never actually used it, on account of the original 1960s two-pin plug, but I've just ordered a proper converter kit. Only £6, inc p&p.

We are on a roll!
 
Posted by Curiosity killed ... (# 11770) on :
 
I decluttered the bathroom and quite a few other surfaces: the hall chest of drawers where everything gets dumped and all the Christmas stuff into the loft, plus about half the surfaces in my bedroom - procrastination are us - but the cleared surfaces are lovely to look at.
 
Posted by Barnabas Aus (# 15869) on :
 
In addition to the abovementioned declutter, I now have in the back of the station wagon to go to the dump for e-cycling one shelf stereo, portable analogue TV and two defunct vacuum cleaners. Along with the obsolete paperwork already mentioned and the four bags of clothing, that's almost a cubic metre of stuff decluttered since New Year's Eve. Just hope we can maintain the momentum.
 
Posted by Jane R (# 331) on :
 
Other Half took four bags of clothes to the recycling after decluttering his wardrobe, but then celebrated by buying himself a toy rollercoaster which is now all over the kitchen table.

I am not sure he's got the hang of this...
 
Posted by la vie en rouge (# 10688) on :
 
I'm going to join in here.

I have high hopes (although you could also call it a reasonable expectation) that by the end of 2014 I will have a ring on my finger ( [Yipee] ). That means I will be moving out of my current flatshare and I am not going to be taking all the crap with me that I have accumulated in the last four years since I moved in. I don't want to find myself with all the crap to clear in a panic so I'm going to start clearing / throwing stuff out / giving stuff away.

I'm going at the slow pace of one drawer at a time. I started by clearing out all my make-up and threw out more than I kept [Roll Eyes] (when a product is almost finished, I buy a new one but have a bad habit of not throwing the old one out).

Goodbye, all my crap!!
 
Posted by Cottontail (# 12234) on :
 
It gets worse before it gets better, it gets worse before it gets better, it gets worse before it gets better ...

[Help]
 
Posted by Ethne Alba (# 5804) on :
 
It's fine.....then Christmas happens!

Now what???


* Have come to the conclusion that actually throwing stuff out is maybe the only way to go.
* Or i can choose to recycle ( At Once! In the many bins helpfully provided by our councl that are in our garden)
* Or a walk fround to our supermarket's Rack Of Assorted Charity Bins.

If it can't be Got Rid within the day.....it has to go into the car. And once in the car...it can't come back inside again.

Five days in and we're getting there....slowly.
((sigh))
 
Posted by Mrs Shrew (# 8635) on :
 
I'm decluttering my laptop this morning, as it is slower than a slow thing.

Managed a bit over the weekend - next weekend is when I am aiming to finish house moving so there will be a lot to be done then.
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
Mrs Shrew I started doing that with my desktop -- until I deleted the trash bin symbol. Now I've given up and decided to get the local computer fixit bloke to sort it out.

Huia _ technopeasant*

* with thanks to Pete for the appropriate word.
 
Posted by Jengie Jon (# 273) on :
 
Mrs Shrew

May I suggest that if you want guidance you post on the Ancient Geek thread in heaven, as I am quite sure a number of people there can make suggestions how to go about it.

Jengie
 
Posted by Mrs Shrew (# 8635) on :
 
Thank you for the suggestion, decluttering the laptop went very well and it is much happier and faster now [Yipee]
(as it happens I am pretty handy with a computer, I was just putting it off because it was a horrid and dull job)

I cleaned out the kitchen cupboard today. Small steps are starting to show progress
 
Posted by The Kat in the Hat (# 2557) on :
 
Husband wants to declut the bookcases, to get rid of one. Doesn't he realise the only reason for getting rid of books is to make room for more??
 
Posted by Pigwidgeon (# 10192) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by The Kat in the Hat:
Husband wants to declut the bookcases, to get rid of one. Doesn't he realise the only reason for getting rid of books is to make room for more??

And the only reason to get rid of a bookcase is to replace it with a larger one.
 
Posted by To The Pain (# 12235) on :
 
We switched the positions of two bookcases with that of the sofa this weekend, instantly transforming the shape of the living room and finding space for all the recent birthday-and-christmas books and DVDs. The boardgames are now much less precariously stacked on top of one bookcase but I'm struggling with a few now-displaced bits and bobs, including several years' worth of photographs. Looking through those two shoeboxes of photographs was fun, but I can't see it being a regular activity.

Next I should really tackle the mantelpiece and the radiator shelf, I think that if my 'display surfaces' look cohesive I will feel better about the whole place.
 
Posted by Boogie (# 13538) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by The Kat in the Hat:
Husband wants to declut the bookcases, to get rid of one. Doesn't he realise the only reason for getting rid of books is to make room for more??

Declut? Sounds vaguely rude - I like it!

That's the first aid cabinet done.

Hurrah! I'd been putting it off for weeks!

[Smile]

[ 08. January 2014, 10:59: Message edited by: Boogie ]
 
Posted by Heavenly Anarchist (# 13313) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Boogie:
quote:
Originally posted by The Kat in the Hat:
Husband wants to declut the bookcases, to get rid of one. Doesn't he realise the only reason for getting rid of books is to make room for more??

Declut? Sounds vaguely rude - I like it!

That's the first aid cabinet done.

Hurrah! I'd been putting it off for weeks!

[Smile]

Last time I did the first aid cupboard I had to take a carrier bag of medicines to the chemist, some of the bottles had dates from when I was a teenager [Hot and Hormonal]
 
Posted by Mrs Shrew (# 8635) on :
 
Tomorrow is packing the last things from the old house day, in preparation for moving them on Saturday. I'mllooking forward to the lowered stress and also lowered costs from only having our own house to fret over, no longer the rented one too(staggered move was made necessary but is not easy for me)

I'm very conscious of the need not to move clutter, but there is a danger that I will snap and just shove everything in a box to sort later.
 
Posted by Pigwidgeon (# 10192) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mrs Shrew:
I'm very conscious of the need not to move clutter, but there is a danger that I will snap and just shove everything in a box to sort later.

Any time one moves, there's always a last-minute throw-everything-in box. Leave it unopened for a few months -- you probably will realize there's nothing in there you need. Good luck with the move!
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
When I crossed the water to live in Liverpool [Wirral people will understand] I took such a box with me - when I was packing to leave Liverpool I realised that box hadn't been opened all the time I was there so I just dumped it without checking - if I hadn't needed the contents in 8 years then...
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Welease Woderwick:
I realised that box hadn't been opened all the time I was there so I just dumped it without checking - if I hadn't needed the contents in 8 years then...

When we moved there were some boxes (cardboard) in the roof space, I remember putting them there, at least 20, maybe 25 years ago. I think they had old business stationery and maybe accounts, I don't know. Just got the bloke who cleared the house to take them away and dump them with the rest of the stuff. Felt that the risks of identity theft or similar were very small.

They were all dusty and probably damp and full of spiders so no way was I going into them, quite apart from lack of time.
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
PS, Mrs Shrew, I tried really hard to be organised about the packing, but in the end it got away from me and I had to just throw things into boxes and bin bags.

Good luck.
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mrs Shrew:
Tomorrow is packing the last things from the old house day, in preparation for moving them on Saturday. I'm looking forward to the lowered stress and also lowered costs from only having our own house to fret over, no longer the rented one too (staggered move was made necessary but is not easy for me)

good luck with all that, Mrs. S!

The Other Mrs. S [Two face]
 
Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :
 
The dining room declutter isn't happening. I have realised that what we have in our dining room isn't clutter per se, but non-clutter masquerading as clutter.

I need to rethink storage.
 
Posted by ecumaniac (# 376) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Welease Woderwick:
When I crossed the water to live in Liverpool [Wirral people will understand] I took such a box with me - when I was packing to leave Liverpool I realised that box hadn't been opened all the time I was there so I just dumped it without checking - if I hadn't needed the contents in 8 years then...

I know someone who lost her birth certificate and passport that way, so be Careful!
 
Posted by Marama (# 330) on :
 
We have just returned to live in Australia after years in Fiji.

The house in Australia to which we are returning is now completely uncluttered , as in our absence it was rented out as 'unfurnished', and the tenants have left it clean but empty.

But I fear it will not remain that way for long, as we have had a fair amount of furniture, books and other goods stored in a removalist's warehouse for the past 7 years, and they will be delivered next week. Some of it will leave us wondering 'why did we bother keeping this?', but I bet my husband ( a mild hoarder) won't want to discard any of it.

And then next month we expect to receive the stuff (mostly books - so not really 'clutter' ) that we shipped back from Fiji. And of course,we will need a fridge, washing mc, sheets, etc, as our old ones were given away to our children who were setting up house at the time. Fortunately [!?] such items are on sale in post-Christmas sales, so restocking should not be too expensive. [Roll Eyes] [Roll Eyes] [Roll Eyes] [Roll Eyes] [Roll Eyes]

[ 11. January 2014, 09:13: Message edited by: Marama ]
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
quote:
we will need a fridge, washing mc, sheets,
Have sent you PM which may be very useful or not at all depending on your destination.
 
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Marama:
...I bet my husband ( a mild hoarder) won't want to discard any of it ...

Can you discard some of it when he's not looking, with the excuse that if he could do without it for seven years, he has no need of it?

[Devil]
 
Posted by Mrs Shrew (# 8635) on :
 
The moving is going better than expected.

Now we unpacking kitchen stuff. I need to declutter a lot of tins and packets. Soup and custard for the next month, I think.....
 
Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :
 
One step forward, two steps back. In order to sort my dining room, I need to create some storage space elsewhere.

This may involve (gulp) decluttering the landing cupboard.....
 
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mrs Shrew:
... Soup and custard for the next month, I think.....

Presumably not in the same bowl ... [Eek!]
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by North East Quine:
One step forward, two steps back. In order to sort my dining room, I need to create some storage space elsewhere.

This may involve (gulp) decluttering the landing cupboard.....

If you empty the cupboard into the dining room...

Sorry, I'll leave well alone.

[Hot and Hormonal]
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
I got a real boost with my decluttering. I was having coffee with a friend on Friday and saying how overwhelmed I felt. The upshot is that next Friday he is coming to pick up all the books I have ready and take them to a charity second hand bookshop that is on the other side of town. Not having a car that would have been difficult for me to arrange.

Because I had a deadline I sorted the books by Sunday and am now concentrating on my scary bedroom. My aim is to be able to see the floor by Wednesday - I know it's there somewhere!

It's amazing how the support of has given me such a boost. Some friends are worth their weight in gold.

Huia
 
Posted by Alban (# 9047) on :
 
Since the end of a relationship in 2011, most of my books have lived on my back porch. We painted it last week, which meant they were excavated. As they returned to the porch, it's been a sorting opportunity - 4 boxes gone!!
 
Posted by Boogie (# 13538) on :
 
I have been decluttering for some time now - years!

So my clutter tends to be recent these days. Leave any room for a week and it'll be in a dreadful state.

So today's decluttering is my camera cupboard. Why do I just shove things back in - then it's in a mess in no time??

I have trained myself with some cupboards and drawers that each thing has a place and nothing else is to be shoved in there.

S l o w process, but I'll get there one fine day. When that happens I will wave several flags and sign off this thread for good (Give me about five years ... )

[ 13. January 2014, 10:57: Message edited by: Boogie ]
 
Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :
 
Large space decluttered by the removal of an old black and white TV from the landing cupboard.

Me: "Why are we keeping this? It doesn't work."
Daughter "It does work!"
Me "Really? We can watch TV on this?"
Dau "Well, we could if the government would just switch the analogue signal back on."
[brick wall]

Husband then suggested we convert it into a
goldfish bowl.


[brick wall]

I have over-ruled them. It is going to the municipal tip's electrical section.

I can't believe we were storing a black and white TV on the offchance that the analogue signal would make a come-back. [Disappointed]
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by North East Quine:
Large space decluttered by the removal of an old black and white TV from the landing cupboard.

Me: "Why are we keeping this? It doesn't work."
Daughter "It does work!"
Me "Really? We can watch TV on this?"
Dau "Well, we could if the government would just switch the analogue signal back on."
[brick wall]

Husband then suggested we convert it into a
goldfish bowl.


[brick wall]

I have over-ruled them. It is going to the municipal tip's electrical section.

I can't believe we were storing a black and white TV on the offchance that the analogue signal would make a come-back. [Disappointed]

[Killing me]

Mrs. S, deeply impressed [Overused]
 
Posted by ecumaniac (# 376) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by North East Quine:
Husband then suggested we convert it into a
goldfish bowl.

I thought it sounded like a cool idea until it said you needed a circular saw.

[ 14. January 2014, 09:03: Message edited by: ecumaniac ]
 
Posted by Ethne Alba (# 5804) on :
 
Half a shelf cleared,
Paper recycling bin full,
Four empty files that have been recovered,
Happy Ms Alba
[Smile]
 
Posted by ecumaniac (# 376) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by North East Quine:
At this point, my daughter claims that they are "sentimental" and we can't get rid of them.

In that case perhaps she could find room for them in her bedroom cupboards?
 
Posted by Nenya (# 16427) on :
 
I'm trying. Truly. I spend some time most days working down the pile of paperwork on the breakfast bar, filing and discarding as appropriate. But the pile never seems to get any smaller and there are similar piles all over the house.

Nen - [Waterworks]
 
Posted by Hebdom (# 14685) on :
 
In this household, 2014 has been declared The Year of the Great Declutter!

Am overjoyed to find that this gardening technique will allow me to get rid of the old cardboard boxes and bags of slashed grass that have been cluttering the back yard. Have previously been drip feeding them into assorted recycling bins.

The only problem is that it is too hot to go outside, let alone do any gardening.... [Mad]
 
Posted by daisydaisy (# 12167) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nenya:
I'm trying. Truly. I spend some time most days working down the pile of paperwork on the breakfast bar, filing and discarding as appropriate. But the pile never seems to get any smaller and there are similar piles all over the house.

Nen - [Waterworks]

It's the same in my home too - just as I rediscover the surface of a table or worktop, clutter appears as if from nowhere. Same with emails - just as I clear the inbox so it only takes up one page, more appear that need dealing with.
BUT I have one room of sanity - I am managing to keep it free of clutter, if I disregard in-flight craft projects.
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
I've noticed that piles of paper and miscellaneous stuff are starting to appear. There are reasons:

Moving house, living temporarily in a rental with a lot of stuff in boxes in the garage.

Dealing with Dad's estate and all the death related admin.

Christmas.

I keep losing things and forgetting things. Everything takes so long because I don't know where things are.

All my routines have disappeared. I don't know where things live. The kitchen is fairly organised but other things aren't.

It has all made me realise how much I need order and routine in my life and how bad I feel when these are missing.

ETA hit send by mistake. [Disappointed]

I don't feel like trying to get re-organised here because we hope to be moving soon. Just doing the minimum. But the little heaps depress me every time I look at them.

[ 15. January 2014, 09:21: Message edited by: Thyme ]
 
Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :
 
I've felt my spirits lift since decluttering the kitchen / airing cupboard / bathroom.

I'm trying to work out what to do with our dining room. Specifically, today, the brass log-box. We bought it because we had a fire in our old house and we used it to store logs / coal.

Now it's in our dining room, and we keep our cockatiel stuff in it; sandsheets / perch covers / food etc.

The dining room would look much better without a random log-box full of cockatiel stuff. But we do need to store the cockatiel stuff somewhere.

Originally posted by ecumaniac:

quote:
In that case perhaps she could find room for them in her bedroom cupboards?
Her cupboards are already full to overflowing. She has stuff stacked on her floor because her cupboards are full. Her bedroom is potentially lovely, but spoiled by being full of stuff.
 
Posted by ecumaniac (# 376) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by North East Quine:


Originally posted by ecumaniac:

quote:
In that case perhaps she could find room for them in her bedroom cupboards?
Her cupboards are already full to overflowing. She has stuff stacked on her floor because her cupboards are full. Her bedroom is potentially lovely, but spoiled by being full of stuff.
Then your point is illustrated. Time to put the foot down, perhaps?
 
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by North East Quine:
... I'm trying to work out what to do with our dining room ...

Eat in it? [Devil]

I'll get my coat ...
 
Posted by Jane R (# 331) on :
 
daisydaisy:
quote:
It's the same in my home too - just as I rediscover the surface of a table or worktop, clutter appears as if from nowhere.
That happens here too. After heroic efforts to declutter, there is a brief halcyon period (usually about five minutes) when the house looks like something out of Ideal Home magazine.

Then someone comes along and starts recluttering, and we have all the weary work to do again.

However, I did just declutter the hall table, where a pile of unsorted letters has been leering at me for about a week. Fortunately there wasn't anything urgent in it.
 
Posted by daisydaisy (# 12167) on :
 
Yesterday I discovered a dinner service I'd forgotten I had, lurking in the back of a cupboard. That started off a chain reaction of decluttering so I now have plenty of bits to take to the charity shop, although strangely nothing actually looks that decluttered.
It helped me to realise that my drinks cupboard is rather full - that could be a rather fun area to declutter [Big Grin]
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by daisydaisy:
It helped me to realise that my drinks cupboard is rather full - that could be a rather fun area to declutter [Big Grin]

Can we all come and help? [Overused]

Before her death, The Intrepid MiL S was forever trying to declutter her drinks cabinet - she'd say 'I've had this brandy for years, I'm sure it's gone off' and we'd have to reassure her that no, they use brandy to PRESERVE things, it'll be just fine.

Mrs. S, no such issues at Intrepid Towers [Biased]
 
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by daisydaisy:
... my drinks cupboard is rather full - that could be a rather fun area to declutter

When we moved to Canada we discovered that you weren't supposed to take bottles of spirits into the country. At the time our drinks cupboard was full of all sorts of things*, and we gave it all (except an unopened bottle of Highland Park which we took with us, secreted in a sock) to a couple of friends who said they'd be delighted to help us avoid breaking the law in our adopted country. [Devil]

* IIRC mostly bribes from the parents of choristers who had wanted their little darlings to be made Head Chorister [Big Grin]
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by daisydaisy:
Nen - [Waterworks] It's the same in my home too - just as I rediscover the surface of a table or worktop, clutter appears as if from nowhere. Same with emails - just as I clear the inbox so it only takes up one page, more appear that need dealing with.

In our house, clutter keeps arriving from The Intrepid-Miss-S-as-was and SiL, whose house was not large enough to contain their existing possessions as well as all their lovely wedding presents. So, they send us Stuff - like sheets, towels, crockery - to go to a local charity.

Imagine how sad it is for us to realise that the kettle they are getting rid of is better than ours? [Eek!] and that we can't resist a John Lewis reindeer mug, or indeed various other of their discarded mugs? In consequence I am having to declutter our mug cupboard, which is always exactly full, and move some of Mr. S's mugs to another cupboard so he forgets them before they are finally decluttered to the dustbin [Devil]

The Underhanded Mrs. S
 
Posted by Alban (# 9047) on :
 
It's amazing how decluttering begets clutter. I decluttered 3 big boxes of schoolbooks and such (around 20 years old) and just wound up filling the place they were with 3 boxes of detritus - waiting for a declutter of their own.
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by The Intrepid Mrs S:
In our house, clutter keeps arriving from The Intrepid-Miss-S-as-was and SiL, whose house was not large enough to contain their existing possessions as well as all their lovely wedding presents. So, they send us Stuff - like sheets, towels, crockery - to go to a local charity.

Imagine how sad it is for us to realise that the kettle they are getting rid of is better than ours? [Eek!] and that we can't resist a John Lewis reindeer mug, or indeed various other of their discarded mugs?
The Underhanded Mrs. S

[Killing me]

My dr & sil are decluttering pending a move and I have carefully avoided seeing their pile of rejects just in case I want to give any of it a home!
 
Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on :
 
As far as I can see, so long as you send your used crockery to charity, there is no reason you cannot use your daughter's castoffs, Mrs S.
 
Posted by Barnabas Aus (# 15869) on :
 
Another car-load of obsolete paperwork and electronics to the recycling depot at the city dump. While my wife had her back turned I finally managed to dispose of teaching resources she had been hoarding, most of which were dated 1963-64.

I've even gained agreement that within the next month, when we have a quiet week, a skip will be rented, and an intensive clearing-out undertaken. Meanwhile, I will continue the carload process, as there are many recyclables still cluttering our storeroom and garage.
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by PeteC:
As far as I can see, so long as you send your used crockery to charity, there is no reason you cannot use your daughter's castoffs, Mrs S.

None at all, Pete, and they get all our 'cast-offs' already. I was just a bit horrified that our children were getting rid of stuff that was better than the equivalents we were still quitw cheerfully using.

Mrs. S - is that S for Scrooge? [Eek!]
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
Some successful decluttering here [Yipee] A woman advertised in the supermarket for fabric so she could teach her daughter patchwork. I didn't have much, but then discovered her daughter was also into all kinds of craft, so nanaged to hand on other bits a pieces too.

[ 18. January 2014, 17:31: Message edited by: Huia ]
 
Posted by Mrs Shrew (# 8635) on :
 
I have just discovered another full box of cleaned out old ice cream tubs saved in case they come in handy....

I think our recycling bin shall be stuffed full this week!
 
Posted by iamchristianhearmeroar (# 15483) on :
 
Oh dear, a weekend of decluttering our understairs cupboard had a rather dramatic end... We'd decided to rip out the horrid old carpet after emptying the cupboard and after doing so I noticed that one of the floorboards looked a bit damp. So I levered it out only to find that the bottom has worm holes in it, with dust on the earth below. Need to get someone in now.

Bollocks.
 
Posted by Lamb Chopped (# 5528) on :
 
[Killing me] You'll know better next time. as will I.

We are currently reassembling our front room after a complete wall semi-demo, repair, skim coat and paint job. Part 2 comes tomorrow when the skim coaters come to do the dining room.

And it all started with a wee rip in the wallpaper.
 
Posted by sophs (# 2296) on :
 
I have to declutter my patchwork fabrics, I've had some of them for years and some I have decided I don't like. Does anyone have any experience ebaying fabric? Do I sell the coordinating stuff together or as separate lots?
 
Posted by Mrs Shrew (# 8635) on :
 
I appear to have reoccurring allergy symptoms. I had been desperately hoping it was just a cold, but this morning my eyes itch as well.
Since I haven't had them since we moved at all, I'm now Seized with sudden terror that somewhere in the house is an object we have moved which has mould spores somewhere (old house had a hideous damp and mould problem, but it was in the structure of the house and I was careful to not let any stuff touch walls or floors to avoid this. Clearly not careful enough). I'm now faced with having to clean (in a way that removes mould with no damage) everything Mr Shrew and I own, whilst there are still books left to move.
Mr Shrew hoards magic the gathering game cards, which are the only thing I can think of which were on floors. They are in boxes so hopefully it would not be the cards affected, but the boxes are so heavy to move I don't know how I will manage to sort the cleaning.
I'm feeling like decluttering all my belongings into a skip right now and just trying to start again.


[duplicate of this post deleted - WW]

[ 22. January 2014, 09:35: Message edited by: Welease Woderwick ]
 
Posted by Mrs Shrew (# 8635) on :
 
We have cleaned the boxes. Allergies gone. [Yipee]

How is everyone getting along?
 
Posted by Boogie (# 13538) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mrs Shrew:
We have cleaned the boxes. Allergies gone. [Yipee]

How is everyone getting along?

OK thanks.

I have saved my (huge) box of photos to the last.

1. Because it will takes ages as I want to scan my favourites to save in various places, including on the cloud.
2. I know I'll really enjoy it and it'll take ages!

So I now have an incentive to get on with the other stuff!

[Smile]
 
Posted by Mrs Shrew (# 8635) on :
 
Ooh that sounds fab Boogie! Digital storage of photos sounds like a great plan, as well as fun to do
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
Just decluttered 8 assorted mugs with pictures of cats on them and some cat nick-nacks to The Cats' Protection League shop [Yipee]

I have also joined Freecycle and am giving someone 20 large preserving jars. Next listing will be for jam jars.

I have also bundled up about 20 good quality picture books to take to the local Playcentre* when it re-opens after the summer break. (*this is a NZ organisation for pre-schoolers run by the parents. I was a Playcentre kid 57 years ago. Then their slogan then was "play is a child's work".)

I am finding it easier to declutter if I find a recipient for stuff that's reusable.

Huia
 
Posted by Eigon (# 4917) on :
 
Some time ago, I went through a phase of collecting nice small furniture which had been left out for the bin men, on the grounds that it was far too nice to chuck into the back of a bin lorry. So I have four occasional tables, two of them of the nesting variety (the smallest one of the set of three nesters was broken).
Encouraged by the recent removal of my overlarge table and four chairs, I have now shifted round so I have a small table by the front door to put my basket on when I come in, one by the bed for my books and so on, and the nesting tables have gone into the back of the storage area for the next car boot sale in the spring.
It's getting there [Smile]
 
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on :
 
The Christmas before last we were driving up the road from our house and someone had left a little 4-drawer chest outside their house for the bin-men. It didn't look like much (it had probably lived in their garage), but it was exactly the size we wanted for the dining room and all it needed was a clean, a couple of coats of black paint (which I gave it), a bit of internal surgery to make the drawers fit properly and some nice handles.

Now our cutlery has a home. [Smile]
 
Posted by daisydaisy (# 12167) on :
 
Ski boots now on Preloved. Table being cleared and cleaned so it can be photographed for Preloved. Really need to tackle the dresser so I can photograph that too.
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
I've sorted all the bins, drawers and cupboards below bench level as well as the 5 small high cupboards in the kitchen which leaves only four containing food, baking ingredients and crockery.

I am now going to have a break from the kitchen and clean up the bathroom so the plumber can fit the new taps I bought [Yipee]

I'm getting good at rewarding myself for the work I'm doing - just as well Mum and Dad's estate came through to allow me to do so, and there's the added bonus of spending money on things they would have approved.

Huia
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
Good going, Huia! [Overused]

I have just, very sadly, decluttered my cat after 10 years (she was older than that though we were never sure how much more). A combination of diabetes and dementia led to her demise, and have meant that I have now got rid of all the cat-related detritus, all the towels I used to keep the upholstery clean, the old cushions she used to sleep on...

The only bit of decluttering I would far rather not have done. [Waterworks]

Mrs. S, mourning
 
Posted by daisydaisy (# 12167) on :
 
[Votive] Awwww - not a nice bit of decluttering.

I have found a new owner for the costumes that I made for the medieval banquet that I had to celebrate my 40th a while ago - they are among the ones In this pic. The local am dram are happy to take them [Yipee]
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
[Tear] Sorry about the cat Mrs S.

Mrs Shrew, glad you got the allergy thing sorted. That is a horrible thing to have.

We have exchanged contracts on a new house. I have decluttered a pile of brochures from estate agents relating to all the houses we looked at.

Also managed to do a bit of tidying up of heaps of paperwork, and got rid of some packing materials from a christmas present. I kept it in case I needed to return the item and have only just got round to checking it works.

Still have a pile of papers that need filing. However, most of the files are still in boxes in the garage. So I don't know whether to get these out and do the filing, but then they have to packed up again for the move, or create a special filing box and do it all when we have moved and things have a permanent home.

The latter course means that there is a big risk that I will lose the filing box, forget what is in it, never get round to doing it. Creating a huge procrastination problem for myself.

Now I have written this I think the best thing is to get the files out and do it now.

I think any further major decluttering will have to wait till we move.

[ 26. January 2014, 10:01: Message edited by: Thyme ]
 
Posted by Nenya (# 16427) on :
 
I'm very sorry to hear about the Intrepid Cat, Mrs S. [Frown] We recently decluttered the cupboard where we kept the things related to our small caged animals. Not that we have kept any for a couple of years but it was like an admission that we are not going to have any more, at least for the foreseeable future.

If I clear any space in the house at present Mr Nen fills it with Stuff, so it's a tad discouraging.

Nen - hoping to have more space than stuff one day.
 
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on :
 
Sorry to hear about your cat, Mrs. S. [Frown]

Nenya - I love the idea of "more space than stuff", although I can't see it happening chez Piglet any time soon.
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
Thanks everyone [Frown] for your kind words.

The Appreciative Mrs. S.
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
Sorry to hear about your cat Mrs S. I threatened to decutter mine when she got underfoot as I was coming down fron a ladder, but in reality I would be devasted if she went anytime soon.

Huia

[ 27. January 2014, 19:47: Message edited by: Huia ]
 
Posted by Golden Key (# 1468) on :
 
Making progress. [Smile]
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
Good for you Golden Key.

I have my bedroom and the spare one to do (including wardrobes and drawers). [Help] But at least the rooms where the heatpump fitters and the plumber will go are sorted [Yipee]

Huia
 
Posted by daisydaisy (# 12167) on :
 
I'm gradually decluttering a dead dishwasher - I realised that the space it is taking up can be used for storage of things to help in the chain of moving things around so I can remove the huge Welsh dresser - I hope I can find someone who wants that.
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
daisydaisy I found an outfit called Freecycle where you post what you have to give away or want. I know it's available in the US, (and New Zealand obviously) but am not sure where else it might be.

It's amazing what some people have considered desirable.

Huia

[ 06. February 2014, 07:45: Message edited by: Huia ]
 
Posted by Heavenly Anarchist (# 13313) on :
 
Most towns in the UK have a Freecycle, I used to offload baby clothes on it.
In our place the rag and bone man visits most weeks and will take old white goods.

[ 06. February 2014, 08:08: Message edited by: Heavenly Anarchist ]
 
Posted by daisydaisy (# 12167) on :
 
I use freecycle a lot, even for dead printers. But I'm really not sure about the dishwasher - still, someone might like a challenge. Thank you for reminding me - I'll give it a go before I pay the council to remove it.
 
Posted by Caissa (# 16710) on :
 
I am cleaning my office since I am moving to a new position four doors down the corridor. Trying to give as much away to colleagues as possible.
 
Posted by Yangtze (# 4965) on :
 
I'm having some new radiators put in this week. The old ones had barely been in the front garden for 5 minutes before they were swooped on and taken away.
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
Friday is Mr. S's day at the foodbank so I decluttered a load of books, bric-a-brac etc from the garage(including a large box of bottles, but we won't mention those, oh no) and yet another dead computer - well, the case at least - it had already been eviscerated for spare parts.
[Smile]
Next up is two boxes of videotapes, currently quarantined in the garage - when in a couple of months Mr. S hasn't noticed they've moved I figure I can shuffle them quietly off to the tip.
[Two face]
When Miss S got married back in October, we tidied up the back of church - old cassette tapes, mainly, and old-but-virtuous magazines and other old cr*p. The box got moved behind the font and no-one bothered emptying it after the wedding. Yesterday we thought it had gone altogether and were quietly celebrating - but I later discovered it in the flower-arrangers/slash/worship band cupboard. Frankly that is the last place it should be, and very soon it's the last place it WILL HAVE BEEN. I am taking an Executive Decision.

The Stroppy Mrs. S - no, better make that Assertive [Devil]
 
Posted by Golden Key (# 1468) on :
 
{{{{{{{All of us; and may our clutter move along to the right next place for it, without undue stress, strain, or panic for us.}}}}}}}


Re Freecycle: I've used it a few times, though mostly to get stuff.

Re the broken dishwasher: is there a vocational school around, or a secondary school with a mechanic vocational program? They might be happy to have the dishwasher, and come get it, to practice repairs.
 
Posted by daisydaisy (# 12167) on :
 
If the school etc a dishwasher they'll see it on Freecycle like they saw my other broken kit & claimed it. But so far no response, so if it's still not claimed on Monday then I'll arrange a collection by the council.
Meanwhile the space it occupied Is no longer empty - I've moved cooking/baking things there, and moved things off the dresser either into new space or put it by the door ready to go to the charity shop. But not the boxes of choklits I found..... oh no, all this decluttering deserves a treat [Smile]
 
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by daisydaisy:
... the space it occupied is no longer empty ...

You mean you aren't replacing it??? [Eek!] [Confused]

I'm dreading the day our one (which is 10 years old) pops its clogs, as I don't know if we could afford to replace it, but I'd hate to be without it.
 
Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on :
 
I like my dishwasher too, but when it goes, I think I will just have some more shelves installed (leaving the plumbing for the next owner)
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
Oh no, I'm with piglet on this one. I can't remember how old ours is (crosses fingers) but I would not be without it, as it keeps my kitchen surfaces decluttered on a daily basis! [Overused]

I got my first after Mr. S's surprise birthday party for his 40th. As we stood there at 3 am washing glasses, he said 'Thank you for my lovely party, would you like a dishwasher?'. Do bears make their own sanitary arrangements in arboreal areas? In fact, I ended up getting a new kitchen, as fitting the dishwasher made such a mess of the existing one [Devil]

Mrs. S, feeling blessed [Axe murder]
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
After the washing machine my dishwasher was my most essential large appliance.

But when it died after many years faithful service there was just the two of us and I decided that I needed the storage space more than a dishwasher and got a cupboard for the space.

Now we have moved nearer family and are doing more entertaining and I have a dishwasher again and have fallen in love with it all over again.

Plus, I have decluttered a lot of kitchen stuff and no longer need that much storage.....

I suspect I never needed the space, I just had too much stuff.
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Thyme:
...I suspect I never needed the space, I just had too much stuff.

Amen to that!
 
Posted by daisydaisy (# 12167) on :
 
I thought I'd not manage without it, but it's fine. My kitchen is so tiny that the extra space is welcome, and at last (after 20 yrs) things are where they are handy, rather than in the dining area. I think I'll live without the dishwasher for the moment, or until I've emptied all the bottles taking up one of the cupboards [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Smudgie (# 2716) on :
 
Phase one started this morning with a trip to the tip. Poor son is severely traumatised at parting with his accumulation of computer bits. Now to sort the books I was saving for Epsom Book Fair.
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Welease Woderwick:
quote:
Originally posted by Thyme:
...I suspect I never needed the space, I just had too much stuff.

Amen to that!
We did a puppet show about the lost sheep, and afterwards it occurred to me that when you need to declutter to find all the things you'd forgotten you had - you have Too Much Stuff and don't value it enough.

Not sure where I'm going with that thought, though...

Mrs. S, cheerfully decluttering the booze cupboard
[Yipee]
 
Posted by Nenya (# 16427) on :
 
Dishwashers. [Axe murder]

There are three of us in the house at present and in the course of a normal 24 hours we fill ours and run it last thing at night. In the morning we use stuff straight out of it for breakfast, put away the rest and start again. Minimum of putting things in cupboards, dirty dishes out of sight. It's a beautiful thing. [Smile]

Other decluttering chez Nen is not going too well... [Frown]

Nen - may take a leaf of of Mrs S's book and declutter a wine bottle this evening. Every item counts, right? [Biased]
 
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by daisydaisy:
... until I've emptied all the bottles taking up one of the cupboards ...

Depending on what's in the aforementioned bottles, do you need any help? [Big Grin]
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by The Intrepid Mrs S:
When Miss S got married back in October, we tidied up the back of church - old cassette tapes, mainly, and old-but-virtuous magazines and other old cr*p. The box got moved behind the font and no-one bothered emptying it after the wedding. Yesterday we thought it had gone altogether and were quietly celebrating - but I later discovered it in the flower-arrangers/slash/worship band cupboard. Frankly that is the last place it should be, and very soon it's the last place it WILL HAVE BEEN. I am taking an Executive Decision.

It has gone - cassettes of Evangelical conferences from only 15 years ago, home-recorded cassettes of Graham Kendrick [Eek!] and all [Devil]

Mrs. S, rubbing her hands in glee
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by The Intrepid Mrs S:
It has gone - cassettes of Evangelical conferences from only 15 years ago, home-recorded cassettes of Graham Kendrick [Eek!] and all [Devil]

Mrs. S, rubbing her hands in glee

Only 15 years old!!! [Eek!]

[Overused] [Killing me]
 
Posted by la vie en rouge (# 10688) on :
 
Pray for me, brethren and (in view of what I’m about to undertake, especially) sistren [Biased] .

I hereby solemnly declare that tonight I am going to clear out my lingerie drawer. And I am going to put in the bin every last unmentionable that is either worn out or has been in an unfortunate incident with a black sock in the washer.
 
Posted by Pigwidgeon (# 10192) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by la vie en rouge:
I hereby solemnly declare that tonight I am going to clear out my lingerie drawer. And I am going to put in the bin every last unmentionable that is either worn out or has been in an unfortunate incident with a black sock in the washer.

I save the worn out ones until I go on vacation. They get worn while I'm away, but most of them are tossed before I come home, leaving a little more space in my suitcase. (I just pray I'm never in an accident and taken to hospital while on vacation!)
 
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by The Intrepid Mrs S:
... worship band cupboard ...

You keep your worship band in a cupboard? What an excellent idea - I should leave them in there if I were you.

[Devil]
 
Posted by Pigwidgeon (# 10192) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by piglet:
quote:
Originally posted by The Intrepid Mrs S:
... worship band cupboard ...

You keep your worship band in a cupboard? What an excellent idea - I should leave them in there if I were you.

[Devil]

[Killing me] [Overused]
 
Posted by ArachnidinElmet (# 17346) on :
 
The nice people from Scope should be coming to whisk a small cabinet and a large box of oddments from us tomorrow. Huzzah! How is it possible to collect so many bits-and-bobs of no consequence? Assorted keyrings, compilation cds, a barometer, a globe and a toy telescope, and they're the highlghts.

Once it's all gone I'll be starting a fresh box.
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Pigwidgeon:
quote:
Originally posted by piglet:
quote:
Originally posted by The Intrepid Mrs S:
... worship band cupboard ...

You keep your worship band in a cupboard? What an excellent idea - I should leave them in there if I were you.

[Devil]

[Killing me] [Overused]
...sorry guys, I'm not prepared to live in a cupboard with the rest of the band (and a load of flower-arrangers too, however talented!)
[Killing me]
Mrs. S, closet claustrophobic
 
Posted by la vie en rouge (# 10688) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Pigwidgeon:
quote:
Originally posted by la vie en rouge:
I hereby solemnly declare that tonight I am going to clear out my lingerie drawer. And I am going to put in the bin every last unmentionable that is either worn out or has been in an unfortunate incident with a black sock in the washer.

I save the worn out ones until I go on vacation. They get worn while I'm away, but most of them are tossed before I come home, leaving a little more space in my suitcase. (I just pray I'm never in an accident and taken to hospital while on vacation!)
Not so [Biased] . If ever you get in a nasty accident, the first thing the medics are going to do is get a big pair of scissors and cut all your clothes off you (taking clothes off an injured person risks making things worse). If you’re wearing your nice lingerie, that’s the last you’ll ever see of it.

You really want to hope you’re wearing your manky undies if you get hit by a bus. (That said, someone I know was once in a nasty skiing accident. And she said that her first thought as she heard her ligaments go pop and collapsed on the piste in agony was indeed “Do I have good underwear on?”)

OTOH, this is now academic since I have achieved my object and now only have good lingerie left. If I get scooped up by any kind of medical personnel, my undies all have their elastic intact and are the same colour that they were when I bought them.
 
Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :
 
Originally posted by la vie en rouge:
quote:
my undies all have their elastic intact and are the same colour that they were when I bought them.
[Overused]

I have this cartoon in my knicker drawer*

You have achieved that!!

* Because everyone keeps cartoons in their knickers drawer, right?
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by North East Quine:
Originally posted by la vie en rouge:
quote:
my undies all have their elastic intact and are the same colour that they were when I bought them.
[Overused]

I have this cartoon in my knicker drawer*

You have achieved that!!

* Because everyone keeps cartoons in their knickers drawer, right?


 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by The Intrepid Mrs S:
quote:
Originally posted by North East Quine:
Originally posted by la vie en rouge:
quote:
my undies all have their elastic intact and are the same colour that they were when I bought them.
[Overused]

I have this cartoon in my knicker drawer*

You have achieved that!!

* Because everyone keeps cartoons in their knickers drawer, right?


Of course - and was it Nen or another of our decluttering sistren who said her husband described her knicker drawer as 50 Shades of Grey?
[Killing me]

Mrs. S, pressing the wrong button [Hot and Hormonal]
 
Posted by Caissa (# 16710) on :
 
A colleague, who happens to be a personal counsellor, is helping me purge my office prior to an office move to start a new position. Much needed and appreciated help.
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
Caissa, friends like that are worth their weight in gold.

Huia
 
Posted by Nenya (# 16427) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by The Intrepid Mrs S:
was it Nen or another of our decluttering sistren who said her husband described her knicker drawer as 50 Shades of Grey?

Not me - there's nothing in my knicker drawer that would interest Mr Nen. [Biased]

Nen - all cotton, size 14-16.
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nenya:
quote:
Originally posted by The Intrepid Mrs S:
was it Nen or another of our decluttering sistren who said her husband described her knicker drawer as 50 Shades of Grey?

Not me - there's nothing in my knicker drawer that would interest Mr Nen. [Biased]

Nen - all cotton, size 14-16.

Sorry Nen [Hot and Hormonal] - I knew it wasn't me, so I naturally assumed it had to be you! [Snigger]

The Apologetic Mrs. S
 
Posted by daisydaisy (# 12167) on :
 
Just had a successful declutter - friends came over for lunch & left with a jacket, dishwasher paraphernalia and bar stool, and interest in the Welsh dresser. I must have people over for lunch more often [Smile]
 
Posted by Golden Key (# 1468) on :
 
Yay, daisydaisy! I love it!
 
Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :
 
We have decluttered a shelf of assorted pamphlets and maps from places we have visited or quite fancy visiting. Realistically, if we visit or revisit any of these places, a street map dated 1993 is not likely to be helpful. Nor is a guide to eateries labeled "new! revised! 2001!" We now have a full paper recycling box and a foot of available shelf space.
 
Posted by Mrs Shrew (# 8635) on :
 
I have convinced Mr Shrew to declutter an old leather jacket that is completely worn out and utterly useless through the promise of fabric recycling bins.... Feeling very proud (now to work on the other six old jackets that are worn out but less obviously past any kind of use)

I also have a couple of bags of things which I never wear to go to charity.

I figure progress may be slow but it is steadily heading in the right direction.
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by North East Quine:
We have decluttered a shelf of assorted pamphlets and maps from places we have visited or quite fancy visiting. Realistically, if we visit or revisit any of these places, a street map dated 1993 is not likely to be helpful. Nor is a guide to eateries labeled "new! revised! 2001!" We now have a full paper recycling box and a foot of available shelf space.

Oooh, yes, no matter how hard I try we seem to accumulate this sort of thing as well. I don't know why it is so hard to get rid of. Just before I read your post I noticed we have a big road map dated 2010 and wondered why we are keeping it.

Congratulations for the dishwasher daisydaisy. And the clothes Mrs Shrew.

I had a huge clothes declutter, it must have been nearly two years ago now when Comet got us doing the 30 items thing. Since when I have done a bit more as and when but I think I need another radical sort out. I haven't been buying much, I think I need to replace some things.

It's a never ending process. My next big household declutter will be when we move again in a couple of months.
 
Posted by Mrs Shrew (# 8635) on :
 
Travel information sneaks its way in with stealth - especially the guidebooks you get at castles. I know they never get looked at, and yet every time they tempt me!

Can you tell me more about the 30 items thing? It sounds intriguing...
 
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on :
 
D. took a phone call this morning from the local Diabetics' Association saying that they'll be doing a doorstep collection on Wednesday, so if I can muster up the energy/motivation I might be able to ditch a bin-bag or two of clothes that I know I won't wear again, and possibly the odd surplus-to-requirements bit of kitchenalia.
 
Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on :
 
The Diabetes Association collects clothes to sell in job lots to vendors who pass the clothes on at exorbitant rates to wholesalers in other parts of the world
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mrs Shrew:
Can you tell me more about the 30 items thing? It sounds intriguing...

I can't find the previous decluttering thread. It must be in Oblivion somewhere.

You wear 30 items for 30 days. Then review your wardrobe. Or it might be 33 items for 3 months. I forget, but you get the general idea.

Basically the idea is that you select 30 items of clothing, not including underwear, uniforms, workwear, gardening clothes and such like.

Whether you include shoes and jewellery is up to you. Some sites do, some don't.

Here are some links but if you google 30 items of clothing you will find sites.

here

here

here

here

I never got down to 30 item even excluding shoes, jewellery, cleaning clothes, swimwear and so on, but it did focus my mind considerably and at the end of it all I did have a smaller but much better wardrobe.

I also applied a similar principle to my jewellery and part exchanged nearly all of it and bought just a few items which I now wear very regularly. That was a really good move.

I came across articles etc about how French women have a small number of clothes which they wear all the time, until it is time to replace them. If they have a couple of outfits they look great in, they have no qualms about wearing them all the time.

here is a typical example, but just google french women's style or fashion.

I'll try to find the original thread if I get time. I think it was the previous incarnation of this one.
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
Wodders has helpfully linked to the old thread in Limbo in his OP here. I haven't found Comet's post about the clothing yet.
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
Here it is 27 June 2012
 
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by PeteC:
The Diabetes Association collects clothes to sell in job lots to vendors who pass the clothes on at exorbitant rates to wholesalers in other parts of the world

They do? [Eek!]

There's a second-hand shop here called Previously Loved which D. says is an outlet for the Diabetes Association; I sort of assumed that anything we left for them would end up there. I'm hopeless in second-hand shops, but D's very good at finding things in good condition: he buys his clothes there so that I don't have to ... [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Caissa (# 16710) on :
 
I move tomorrow into my new de-cluttered office.
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
Yesterday was such a foul day here (just for a change [Mad] ) that Mr. S started to declutter the study. I'd rather he'd done his wardrobe, but hey, can't be helped. We threw out TONS of old boxes (for the Nook, the GPS and for at least three old mobile phones), old magazines, maps, CDs (M$ Encarta 2001, anybody? Thought not)...

Today doesn't look any better, so we'll probably have to do the filing cabinet etc [Big Grin] BUT the best thing is - I found my birth certificate! You know how it is when you're sure you know where something is? If it isn't there, you have no idea where to look. Well, it was in with the certificate for my French A-level, which I took about 25 years ago.

(I had had to get a copy, which in the end didn't serve the purpose it was required for - my CRB check - because the chap who was checking it said it made my year of birth appear to be 1961 rather than 1951 . I wish!)

So, who knows what delights will be unearthed today [Yipee]

Mrs. S delighted to be decluttering
 
Posted by Ethne Alba (# 5804) on :
 
The weather produced a similar flurry of action here. One wardrobe entirely reordered inside, a quarter of the previous garments awaiting stickers to be affixed to their plastic bags for the charity shop, brand new space for shoes and half of hubby's hobby cupboard newly streamlined.

I am still in shock!
 
Posted by Nenya (# 16427) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by The Intrepid Mrs S:
Well, it was in with the certificate for my French A-level, which I took about 25 years ago.

I too took French A level - but longer ago than 25 years. [Biased]

Returning to the subject of knicker drawers, I decluttered mine at the weekend, prompted to do so because I couldn't fit all the knickers and socks I'd washed into it and then close it. [Roll Eyes] It's now much tidier [Big Grin] . However I have the habit (which I read about years ago, probably in some edition of the magazine "Jackie" - did anyone else read that?) of putting my empty perfume containers in my underwear drawer to make them smell nice. When I sorted it there were three empty Rive Gauche eau de toilette sprays in there. [Hot and Hormonal]

Nen. - born in the same decade as Mrs S but a bit later in it. [Biased]
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nenya:
quote:
Originally posted by The Intrepid Mrs S:
Well, it was in with the certificate for my French A-level, which I took about 25 years ago.

I too took French A level - but longer ago than 25 years. [Biased]

Nen. - born in the same decade as Mrs S but a bit later in it. [Biased]

Ah, but this was what they used to refer to as Evening Classes (last step before Ironing Classes, maybe? [Snigger] ). My original A-levels were taken more or less before recorded time began...

A further day of decluttering the study has produced more shredding than three compost heaps can handle, but no long-lost treasures, sadly.

Mrs. S, way past anything so intellectual as A-levels these days [Biased]
 
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on :
 
[tangent]
quote:
Originally posted by The Intrepid Mrs S:
... this was what they used to refer to as Evening Classes ...

Ah, evening classes! That's where I met my Beloved - he was teaching Higher Music and I was learning it (and quietly lusting [Snigger] ).

I was his first success. [Smile]
[/tangent OFF]
 
Posted by Ethne Alba (# 5804) on :
 
It Was Jackie who suggested that and I also wasted far too much pocket money on that magazine!
 
Posted by daisydaisy (# 12167) on :
 
After discovering that a tall shelf thing is teetering a bit too much I removed the sewing bits & fabric from it, generated 3 bags from that for rehousing but, with everything on the floor while I decide what to do with what I want to keep, this round of decluttering leaves me feeling like I'm only scratching the surface. [Waterworks]
Really I need to focus on clearing the dresser so I can put it up for sale.
 
Posted by Barnabas Aus (# 15869) on :
 
Mrs BA has summoned up the energy to tackle her craft room, which was fast disappearing under the accumulation of materials and projects. I'm not certain how much has been disposed of, or whether it is just better arranged, but at least most of the floor is now visible.
 
Posted by Silver Swan (# 17957) on :
 
Visible floor is one of my goals. [Yipee]
If I could manage to sort one box a day I'd get there eventually.
 
Posted by Smudgie (# 2716) on :
 
Last year, when we thought we'd sold our bungalow on the Isle of Wight, I brought stuff I'd been storing there and "temporarily" put in into paid storage here. Then the sale fell through and finances forced me to bring the boxes into my tiny flat here. Result - no room to move or sort, and any attempts to sort ended up as counter-productive as the lack of space made it impossible to leave things out while I sorted them.

This week a burst of energy and determination and a brainwave as to the answer. I got a special deal on paid storage and have moved it all there. The plan is, over the next couple of months, to bring home a box at a time and deal with it, with the space and time to do it but, even more, the lack of feeling overwhelmed or depressed at the state the place had got into. It's costing me £100 for the two months (thank goodness my wages in this new job are higher), but already I feel £100 better morale-wise. I quite like my clutter, but it had taken over somewhat!
 
Posted by Mrs Shrew (# 8635) on :
 
Well done Smudgie that all sounds very organised! I agree that working one box at a time helps make things more manageable.

I did read the links about project 333:I'm not sure I would be able to get as low as 30 but I plan to give it a shot in a couple of weeks.

Next weekend is wedding weekend (so I finally WILL be Mrs Shrew...) so at the moment my house is full of both stuff and people. I have a few bags for charity shop to go today, filled with clothes and books I found whilst tunnelling out space for a bed in the spare room.
After that I really will have to give it a rest until after the wedding.

Mrs Shrew-surrounded by lists of Things That Must Be Done Ready For Saturday.
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
Congratulations Mrs Shrew, hope all goes well and you have a wonderful day.

Are you getting wedding presents? Will you have a one in one out rule? [Big Grin]

We have completed on our new house. The decorators are in. I am thinking about how to declutter even more as we prepare to move and how to prevent further clutter taking up residence in the future.
 
Posted by Mrs Shrew (# 8635) on :
 
I'm not sure about a one in one out rule, but I will definitely be continuing the strict decluttering after the wedding.

I sneakily threw out the old broken coffee maker (that the future Mr Shrew was saving in case he could fix it) yesterday.
 
Posted by ecumaniac (# 376) on :
 
If anyone nearbyish is decluttering fabric, I'll give it a good home....
 
Posted by Heavenly Anarchist (# 13313) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ecumaniac:
If anyone nearbyish is decluttering fabric, I'll give it a good home....

What sort of fabric do you like [Smile]
 
Posted by ecumaniac (# 376) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Heavenly Anarchist:
quote:
Originally posted by ecumaniac:
If anyone nearbyish is decluttering fabric, I'll give it a good home....

What sort of fabric do you like [Smile]
I'm very much a beginning sewer, so only doing cotton/linen and polycottons at the moment!
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
Owing to the plumber breaking the basin when he was removing a tap, I had to declutter my bathroom vanity at short notice. Much of the contents went into straight into the rubbish but some things are now cluttering the spare bedroom.

I have vowed not to put anything back into the new vanity (which has 3 drawers and a cupboard with shelves) until I have worked out whether or not I need to keep it.

Smudgie - that sounds brilliant - I find it too easy to get overwhelmed by piles of things.

Over the next week my goal is to sort my bedroom and the spare room. I am planning on getting my house re-wired and some space uder the lights and around the electric sockets is necessary.

Huia
 
Posted by Mrs Shrew (# 8635) on :
 
Hope the basin disaster was not too bad Huia
quote:
Originally posted by Thyme:
Are you getting wedding presents? Will you have a one in one out rule?

I am pleased to report that, not only did we succeed in Getting Married, we also avoided the great Toaster Trap (as predicted by my mother when told we would not have a wedding list). Indeed we have somehow managed to be given only things which are both useful and do different tasks than any things we already owned.
 
Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :
 
Congratulations Mrs Shrew!
 
Posted by Japes (# 5358) on :
 
Congratulations, Mrs Shrew!
 
Posted by daisydaisy (# 12167) on :
 
Congratulations Mrs Shrew.

Today not only did I sell my dining table, but also 3 chairs that I didn't advertise but needed to rehome, to a couple who are getting married in 4 weeks - so are collecting clutter! Hurrah for Preloved.
 
Posted by Ethne Alba (# 5804) on :
 
One word: Wardrobe

[Frown]
 
Posted by Nenya (# 16427) on :
 
Congratulations, Mrs Shrew! Mr Nen keeps all sorts of things thinking he'll mend them. Kettles. Printers. Umbrellas.

Nen - unsuccessful declutterer.
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
Congratulations Mrs Shrew.

The basin breaking was a blessing in disguise. Just before the plumbers came I looked at the old basin and thought it needed replacing, but didn't really think it through, so the plumber breaking it was a relief. He then lined me up with a vanity unit and installed it a few days later. I have dealt with the company before so I was happy to do it that way. I know it will be fairly expensive as he was here for some time, but this firm has saved me money in the past so I trust their billing system to be fair. He did offer to try to find an old second hand one but I am so glad I said no because the new unit looks stunning.

I have allocated the top drawer for blister packs of my medication. Now they have a definite place to live I should remember to take it more regularly.

Huia
 
Posted by Willow warbler (# 18035) on :
 
I try keep on top of the clutter (and I'm better than I was) but it's still very much a work in progress. Off work next week and hope to make some significant progress but we'll wait and see. Would probably benefit from a specific goal to aim toward. Maybe a fixed number of items to the bin/recycling/charity shop per day? Maybe that could be my Lenten challenge - instead of giving something up, bless someone with something I no longer love every day for forty days (even if the one being blessed is the local tip).
 
Posted by Heavenly Anarchist (# 13313) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ecumaniac:
quote:
Originally posted by Heavenly Anarchist:
quote:
Originally posted by ecumaniac:
If anyone nearbyish is decluttering fabric, I'll give it a good home....

What sort of fabric do you like [Smile]
I'm very much a beginning sewer, so only doing cotton/linen and polycottons at the moment!
I have a room filled to the ceiling with fabric as I used to make and sell clothing made from recycled fabrics. I desperately need to clear it and make a stab at it every so often so may well find something for you [Smile] do you have any preferences to colours or patterns? What do you sew? PM if you like.
 
Posted by To The Pain (# 12235) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ethne Alba:
One word: Wardrobe

[Frown]

With you there. I'm trying to be mindful of what I wear over Lent with a view to decluttering my wardrobe thereafter, but I struggle with getting bored of my clothes and am a bit of a packrat so that makes being truly ruthless difficult. Especially as I have managed ruthlessness in the past (often as a result of an impending house move) and missed items very quickly.

I suppose I have to admit to myself that I now have a decent salary coming in and if I pass on something that's 'not quite right' but find myself missing it, I can now endeavour to find a replacement that is 'just right' and also as ethically sourced as possible. The same is probably true of items that don't quite fit right now. I have too little wardrobe space to be hanging onto things I actually can't wear.
 
Posted by daisydaisy (# 12167) on :
 
5 bags of this & that to the charity shop this afternoon. I can now see the floor again.... ready for the next wave of decluttering.
Because all of this stuff was hidden in cupboard, I can't yet see the benefit of it, but that should come soon when I find a new home for the huge dresser.
 
Posted by Cottontail (# 12234) on :
 
As part of my spring cleaning, I am trying to do 15 minutes every day of clearing surfaces and filing bits of paper. I have just realised that the quick wash cycle on my washing machine is exactly 15 minutes! There is a cardigan in there right now (with chocolate melted onto the front), and I am about to press 'Start' ... [Smile]
 
Posted by Ethne Alba (# 5804) on :
 
In much the same manner, podcasts of "Desert Island Discs" are giving me roughly half an hour of easy distraction while The Deed is done

3 bags done up for the charity shops; slowly slowly
 
Posted by Rowen (# 1194) on :
 
Three bags from my bedroom, for charity.
One of rubbish.

Some years ago, I made the tree change. Permanent. And now I am getting rid of the very good work gear.
Ministry here is simpler than being a hospital chaplain. Comfy clothes as opposed to professional...
So, at long last...!!!
 
Posted by Heavenly Anarchist (# 13313) on :
 
I have 8 black bags of fabric for recycling/charity in my hallway, some of it from the days when I made and sold cloth nappies and wool wraps made from vintage fabrics and blankets. I now have a daily project of clearing a meter square of floor in the fabric room. I am very much looking forward to being able to actually find stuff in there.
 
Posted by Landlubber (# 11055) on :
 
I am so impressed by the progress you are reporting, but how did you you manage to get the things as far as bags to go to the charity shop? I have made a good start on taking clothes out of the wardrobe and boxes under the bed but they are now sitting waiting until I try them on to see if they still fit and might come in handy in future. My best guess is that I'll finish up putting them back under the bed 'just in case'. And that's before I look at the fabric and wool.
 
Posted by Boogie (# 13538) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Landlubber:
I have made a good start on taking clothes out of the wardrobe and boxes under the bed but they are now sitting waiting until I try them on to see if they still fit and might come in handy in future. My best guess is that I'll finish up putting them back under the bed 'just in case'. And that's before I look at the fabric and wool.

Here is a blog post just for you Landlubber!

[Big Grin]
 
Posted by Landlubber (# 11055) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Boogie:
Here is a blog post just for you Landlubber!

[Big Grin]

That gives me Mondays off, then! Thank you for pushing me towards honesty. But I see a chink of light. Today is Tuesday, so I can ignore the clothes heap and declutter a bit of loft instead [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Heavenly Anarchist (# 13313) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Landlubber:
I am so impressed by the progress you are reporting, but how did you you manage to get the things as far as bags to go to the charity shop? I have made a good start on taking clothes out of the wardrobe and boxes under the bed but they are now sitting waiting until I try them on to see if they still fit and might come in handy in future. My best guess is that I'll finish up putting them back under the bed 'just in case'. And that's before I look at the fabric and wool.

I have a small room designed for my old sewing business which has very deep shelves (1metre!) from floor to ceiling and the floor is deep in more fabric and boxes. I have an awful lot of fabric I can potentially get rid of! I have put stuff back on the shelves that I probably should also throw and have a policy of revising shelves regularly in future.
My motivation is the need to actually be able to find what I require and consequently enjoy sewing again. At the moment I never sew any more as it is too much of a chore. The room also houses my desktop and my fortnightly marking marathon will be much more comfortable if I am able to move around.
I also see decluttering as a way to help with my depression (I have bipolar disorder). I am more positive when surrounded by order. And actually achieving the decluttering is also motivating, I set myself small targets, a shelf perhaps.
 
Posted by Landlubber (# 11055) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Heavenly Anarchist:
quote:
I have a small room designed for my old sewing business which has very deep shelves (1metre!) from floor to ceiling and the floor is deep in more fabric and boxes. I have an awful lot of fabric I can potentially get rid of! I have put stuff back on the shelves that I probably should also throw and have a policy of revising shelves regularly in future.
My motivation is the need to actually be able to find what I require and consequently enjoy sewing again. At the moment I never sew any more as it is too much of a chore. The room also houses my desktop and my fortnightly marking marathon will be much more comfortable if I am able to move around.
I also see decluttering as a way to help with my depression (I have bipolar disorder). I am more positive when surrounded by order. And actually achieving the decluttering is also motivating, I set myself small targets, a shelf perhaps.

Thank you. Regular and small doses it will have to be, not starting on all the boxes at once, which will be quite hard to start with. It's not how I usually operate!

quote:
Originally posted by Landlubber:

... today is Tuesday ...
Er, that would be Wednesday [Hot and Hormonal]

[ 12. March 2014, 10:50: Message edited by: Landlubber ]
 
Posted by Boogie (# 13538) on :
 
Today I did my sock drawer.

I have a use for old socks, they go into a box and are used for one off dusters. Dust, turn inside out, dust, throw away.

That way they are not wasted but don't clutter my nice tidy sock drawer either.

[Big Grin]

I think a hatred of waste has been deeply instilled in some of us - so much so that we keep useless things (like old socks!). I am working to be less wasteful by having less, instead of by keeping more. Not easy - but worth it.
 
Posted by Nenya (# 16427) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Boogie:
I have a use for old socks, they go into a box and are used for one off dusters. Dust, turn inside out, dust, throw away.

You use the word "dust" as though it were a verb. [Confused]

Mr Nen and I are going to tackle the smallest bedroom soon. Yes, really. We keep talking about it.

Nen - whose one-of-many excuses is that she's not been too well lately... [Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by Ethne Alba (# 5804) on :
 
smallest bedroom............ah, there's a thought....
 
Posted by Boogie (# 13538) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nenya:
You use the word "dust" as though it were a verb.

[Killing me]

Re: procrastination. I find the 15 minute 'rule' really helps with this and should use it for other procrastinations I am nurturing.

Doing something towards the niggle is so much better than doing nothing even if the job takes months!
 
Posted by Nenya (# 16427) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Boogie:
Doing something towards the niggle is so much better than doing nothing even if the job takes months!

You're right, of course. I'm feeling a lot better - in more ways than one - than I have for some time and really am going to get some time sorting that small bedroom today, as well as using the supply of old socks I discovered in the room that used to be Nenlet1's. I thought I could try this "dusting" lark. [Biased]

I'll report back later.

Nen - thinking positively. [Smile]
 
Posted by daisydaisy (# 12167) on :
 
After a 21 year procrastination I can now count the days until my home is decluttered of a large welsh dresser - a friend is buying it and having it moved at the end of the week. I've moved the contents of the drawers and cupboards, but need to decide on what to keep of the things on display on the top. Perhaps a gentler option is to put some into boxes for a decision another time - I feel I've made enough of those lately.
 
Posted by cattyish (# 7829) on :
 
Procrastinating doesn't work when I land on the Ship and find you lot talking about order, "dust" as a verb and something rather frightening called the 15 minute rule. I shall now spend 15 minutes reading this thread and perhaps the house will then get my attention for once.

Cattyish, shamed into looking at the dust (noun).
 
Posted by Pigwidgeon (# 10192) on :
 
My primary goal right now is decluttering my home office. To motivate myself, I have cleaners coming the end of the week, and a friend coming over a few days later which will involve my desktop computer, so this room HAS to be cleaned up. I'm working at it slowly but steadily.
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
Breathes on fingernails and polishes them on shirt - not that I am wearing one

Last night I tidied the desk/table in my bedroom! I also fitted a 4-gang power board to the side so I am not constantly unplugging one thing to charge another.

One day I'll have a go at the desk in here, a rather bigger task.
 
Posted by Ethne Alba (# 5804) on :
 
Clutter relocated from corner cupboard top AND put away (faint!)

Corner of room now has fetching china server and beautiful plant.


[am not going to look at what is around the base of the bookcases until tomorrow though...been there two months, can stay another two days]
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
Great progress on the dresser daisydaisy!

I'm hoping that we move to the new house at the end of March. It is being redecorated throughout and recarpeted. So all I have to do is clean the hard floor areas, kitchen cupboards and the showers and other sanitary wear before we move in.

This will mean that I have, for the first time in my life, a totally clean house. Now I will have to make sure I have a strategy for keeping it that way.

I also have to clean up the rental property after we leave. Not looking forward to that at all. Not that it's bad just that I seem to have spent a lot of time cleaning to leave things for other people recently.

I am hoping to declutter more furniture, although we will also probably have to buy some more. We did a huge amount of decluttering on the first move so I don't think that decluttering is the big issue anymore.
 
Posted by Mrs Shrew (# 8635) on :
 
Our bathroom is finally complete! Its good to have it done, but even better to have the spare room back from under the bath and shower unit which had been in there since october. The only trouble is... I have just been dumping things in the spare room to deal with later.

I can't face it this weekend (and the kitchen is still a tip, mostly due to the volume of leftover drinks and snacks from the wedding so I should probalby hadle that first), but next weekend I shall Tackle It.

Pleased the dresser is gone, and to a good home daisydaisy.
 
Posted by sophs (# 2296) on :
 
Because of using shitty flea drops and spray we have two cats with fleas and need to spray the house. Which means we need to remove clutter and Hoover under all the furniture, then spray under all the furniture and clutter, then Hoover again.

I don't know what we will do with all the clutter, especially the spare room which is currently housing a load of boxes belonging to a friend who has moved into sheltered accommodation and has now put her husband in a care home, so she can't currently face more declutter get...so it needs to go to the loft....argh!
 
Posted by Nenya (# 16427) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sophs:
and has now put her husband in a care home, so she can't currently face more declutter

What a stroke of genius. In my experience husbands significantly add to the clutter. [Smile]

Nen - eyeing Mr Nen speculatively.
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nenya:
quote:
Originally posted by sophs:
and has now put her husband in a care home, so she can't currently face more declutter

What a stroke of genius. In my experience husbands significantly add to the clutter. [Smile]

Nen - eyeing Mr Nen speculatively.

[Killing me] [Overused]
 
Posted by Little Miss Methodist (# 1000) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sophs:
Because of using shitty flea drops and spray we have two cats with fleas and need to spray the house. Which means we need to remove clutter and Hoover under all the furniture, then spray under all the furniture and clutter, then Hoover again.

I know this won't help with your decluttering, but in my experience the thing that makes the most difference with fleas is treating the cats with something like "Advocate" - any fleas that jump on the cat die, which means that after a couple of days all the fleas in the house die. I have tried the "spray the whole house" approach and in over 10 years of cat ownership it has never worked, the only thing that has worked completely has been the drops. Worth a thought...
 
Posted by Sola gratia (# 14065) on :
 
Hello all

In a recent declutter (one whole alcove by the chimney stack in my bedroom [Yipee] ), from which a charity shop benefitted to the tune of ooh, three bags, and the rest recycled [Angel] I discovered some old CD-ROMs (or maybe CDs - I confess I never did play them [Hot and Hormonal] ) from a charity I used to get mailings from. They are around 7 years old now and I have no way of rewriting them etc., but I don't want to throw them away without seeing if I can use them for something or be creative with them.

Any suggestions?

SG
 
Posted by The Kat in the Hat (# 2557) on :
 
Glue them back to back (shiny side facing outwards) with string/ribbon inbetween (so you can hang it up) to make a reflective mobile / bird-scarer
 
Posted by Lamb Chopped (# 5528) on :
 
Ask a preschool if they can use them for arts and crafts.
 
Posted by Palimpsest (# 16772) on :
 
disposable drink coasters
 
Posted by daisydaisy (# 12167) on :
 
Today was D(resser)-Day - at 8am my Welsh Dresser was rehomed. The room looks so strange without it - I can't work out if it looks bigger (it should) or smaller but it certainly looks different. Many spiders will now be looking for a new home, and there is embarrassing evidence of when I didn't move the dresser last time I painted.

Now to choose wallpaper or paint for that wall [Smile] so that I can finish off this major decluttering step.
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
Great stuff daisydaisy.

Sola gratia: I just googled repurposing old CDs

I do not want to be rude but my experience is that all the stuff I keep (thinking especially of cards and bits of Christmas bling) intending to recycle into something original and charming, just turns into a load more clutter, this time with added guilt.

If I know I have no immediate use for something I just chuck it now. There is no shortage of old CD's if you ever feel the need for one.

YMMV [Smile]
 
Posted by Landlubber (# 11055) on :
 
My life obviously does not intend to be decluttered. I took heed of all the good advice you offered me, set myself a manageable target and - caught a really horrible cold (third this year) and retired to bed. So I gave up on the wardrobe and am now sneaking up on the box room and have nearly a whole carrier bag in the porch for the charity shop. Mercifully, once something has got as far as the porch I have never been know to bring it back in.
I am grateful for the hints, I'd never have got even this far without them.
 
Posted by ecumaniac (# 376) on :
 
Today I am helping a friend get control over her super messy kitchen. Step 1: put all stray dishes in dishwasher and turn on (even though it wasn't full!!) Then everything off the table (onto living room floor, but you gotta start somewhere) then clean the table surface. Took about 20 paper towels, but finally all the grime is gone!

Next up: lunch.
 
Posted by Golden Key (# 1468) on :
 
{{{{{{{Everyone}}}}}}}

Making progress; also dealing with that emotional void that comes from it.
[Eek!]
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
Getting rid of bits and pieces here and there as we unpack.

Main project is emptying all the boxes stashed in the garage from the move.
 
Posted by daisydaisy (# 12167) on :
 
Nice one Thyme - I wonder if you'll find forgotten treasures.

I've recovered from the shock of an emptier room after the dresser left, and have ordered the wallpaper (very bold design) and a red lampshade. Yesterday I painted walls, door & a cat in readiness for papering.

Already I have plans for the next room to declutter... and redecorate as a reward.
 
Posted by Jane R (# 331) on :
 
[Eek!] You painted the cat?!! Wow... I can never be bothered to make sure everything coordinates.

How did you get it to stand still long enough?
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
Daisydaisy, you may have painted the cat, but I bet it doesn't hang about to be wall papered.

I've got someone coming to help me declutter and clean up as I need the house clear enough to be rewired in the next few weeks [Eek!] - not to mention the bloke rebuiding the shower.

I'm also thing of re-carpeting too.

Huia- making up for years of inaction
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jane R:
[Eek!] You painted the cat?!! Wow... I can never be bothered to make sure everything coordinates.

How did you get it to stand still long enough?

You don't need to - grab cat by collar and dunk quickly into large can of paint. Alternatively, stand back from adding the last brushstroke to a perfectly-glossed door and wait - the cat will be sure to rub up against it very soon ...

Mrs. S, currently cat-free (but not through paint poisoning, mercifully)
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by daisydaisy:
Nice one Thyme - I wonder if you'll find forgotten treasures.

Finding the treasures I distinctly remember having and packing is the problem at the moment!
[Big Grin]
 
Posted by daisydaisy (# 12167) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by The Intrepid Mrs S:
quote:
Originally posted by Jane R:
[Eek!] You painted the cat?!! Wow... I can never be bothered to make sure everything coordinates.

How did you get it to stand still long enough?

You don't need to - grab cat by collar and dunk quickly into large can of paint. Alternatively, stand back from adding the last brushstroke to a perfectly-glossed door and wait - the cat will be sure to rub up against it very soon ...

Mrs. S, currently cat-free (but not through paint poisoning, mercifully)

I gave the cat a quick hair cut to avoid poisoning him. While I did that, a couple of little bugs flew a bit to close to the gloss paint, so I still get Life in the paint. Still Life?
 
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by daisydaisy:
... a couple of little bugs flew a bit to close to the gloss paint, so I still get Life in the paint. Still Life?

I should enter your wall in next year's Turner Prize if I were you. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by piglet:
quote:
Originally posted by daisydaisy:
... a couple of little bugs flew a bit to close to the gloss paint, so I still get Life in the paint. Still Life?

I should enter your wall in next year's Turner Prize if I were you. [Big Grin]
[Overused]
 
Posted by Mrs Shrew (# 8635) on :
 
There definitely has to be an art prize in there somewhere!

The shelves in our living room are up, and hold all our board games (surprisingly!) this leaves plenty of wiggle room to get tidying the spare bedroom. Mr Shrew has very kindly bought me a second hand filing cabinet for all the paperwork, so I will be filling that up at the weekend.

The weather was quite nice on Saturday so we investigated our garden. The surveyor had said there was a bit of clutter hiding behind the large trees (which look like they are at the very bottom of the garden but are actually about six foot away from it).
Thus turns out to have been an understatement. We appear to have a four foot high by about 4 foot diameter mind of earth and an enormous pile of bits of dead tree, with assorted rubbish thrown in. I'm not entirely sure how one declutters mud....
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
I think what is called for is some artful rearrangement of said mud.

How is beyond my capacity to comment.
 
Posted by Boogie (# 13538) on :
 
Leave the pile - it's a perfect hedgehog and wildlife retreat!

[Smile]
 
Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :
 
You know what it's like when a member of a group you're in is selling something you don't want but feel obliged to buy for a good cause?

Half my cookery books are ones I felt obliged to buy for school funds or whatever.

Well, many years ago, one of the Playgroup mums had a close relative with a good singing voice. He cut a fund-raising CD and I felt obliged to buy a signed copy.

I found it in today's declutter. And the singer is a lot better known now than he was then! I've googled, but there don't seem to have been any sold on E-bay, so perhaps there aren't that many in existence. I might have a rare example. A rare, signed, example! (All google threw up was a review at the time advising Playgroup Mum's relative not to give up the day job.)

What do you think? Could a rare, signed CD of Alex Salmond singing "The Rowan Tree" be worth a fortune????
 
Posted by Cottontail (# 12234) on :
 
Oh, that is a fabulous find, NEQ! I am almost tempted to make you an offer. [Devil] (Almost, but not quite ...)

I am expected to buy all sorts of junk at all sorts of coffee mornings, sales of work, etc. Long ago I adopted a policy of buying homemade cards. Because the beauty of them is that I buy them, then give them away!

The Bake Stall is, of course, another matter ...
 
Posted by Jane R (# 331) on :
 
NEQ:
quote:
What do you think? Could a rare, signed CD of Alex Salmond singing "The Rowan Tree" be worth a fortune????
It depends how much he'd be willing to pay to stop anyone else getting it, doesn't it? [Snigger]
 
Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :
 
He's actually got a good voice - he was a choirboy till his voice broke.

This (from 0.50) is a poor quality recording, but as you can see he's not shy about taking the stage.

However, I think my signed CD justifies the description "Probably the worst party CD, ever."
 
Posted by Ferijen (# 4719) on :
 
This was mentioned on Radio 4 in the past few months - either the Today Programme or the PM show. Copies of the CD are hard to find, apparently...
 
Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :
 
Did it say if they were worth anything, Ferijen?
 
Posted by Golden Key (# 1468) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Boogie:
Leave the pile - it's a perfect hedgehog and wildlife retreat!

[Smile]

Yes, it's called a "berm".
 
Posted by Rowen (# 1194) on :
 
A big bag of stuff for the charity shop.
Proud of myself!
Long may the discardedness continue in my house [Angel]
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
Currently working my way through three black rubbish bags of shredded paper, from the Great Study Declutter. You can't put it in recycling, so I am mixing it with grass cuttings and compost accelerator, aka pee - but even two large compost bins fill up pretty quickly at that rate ...

In other news, we are having cupboards and a sink put into our utility room at the weekend - it's only taken 22 years to get there! so I need to clear everything out into the garage before then *sigh* [Help] We can apparently block the door to the outside without planning permission, but not take it out and replace it with a window *sigh again*. You can take bricks away, i.e. change a window for a door, but not put them in - how crazy is that? [Ultra confused]

Anyhoo, it'll be worth it so I don't have to clean paintbrushes in the kitchen sink. I used to use the bath, but when I got a new one that was out of bounds as well!

Mrs. S SKIING* [Yipee]
(*spending the kids' inheritance)
 
Posted by ChastMastr (# 716) on :
 
As some Shippies know, Daddy Vern was a man who basically became a father to me, and he taught me many basic life skills. Over the years, and especially recently I think, I've struggled with keeping those up, including taking care of my home and household. Now I am determined to go back to the healthy living habits he taught me, for both my sake and my partner Cubby's (QuakerCub here on the Ship).

Hugs to all!

(Similar but different post going on the weight loss thread...)
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
Wow! I was visited by a whirlwind of a home help today and she's coming back next week [Yipee] In the meantime I will be sorting through some of the stuff and decide what it biff, but this shouldn't be too diffficult as they are in small seperate piles so I can tackle 2 or 3 per day. Also, having had someone else get rid of the obvious crap there is less to sort.

I'm also looking at fabric that I have had for years and realising that I will never use it. I list it on Freecycle and when someone comes to pick it up I get a buzz when they tell me what they're going to use it for. I makes it easier for me to give up stuff when I think someone else is going to use it - and if they don't it's not my problem [Two face]

Similarly with the jam and preserving jars. I will never do that much jam making or preserving and having got rid of them I will never come across them in the garage and beat myself up for it.

It will probably be more difficult when I get to the craft stuff because I'm not sure where I can get rid (ahem - donate) heaps of cross stitch pattern books. I may see if the local needleworkers guild is interested.

Huia
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
quote:
It will probably be more difficult when I get to the craft stuff because I'm not sure where I can get rid (ahem - donate) heaps of cross stitch pattern books. I may see if the local needleworkers guild is interested.

Huia, I can't speak for the needlework guild but I do know the Knitters Guild down here runs a postal library for members. Hopefully, your guild may do the same.

There is a NSW Embroiderers Guild who may be interested but I imagine the postage would be horrendous.
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
Just looked outside from my balcony. A big van was there marked, UtterDeclutter . So get some experience and capitalise on it.
 
Posted by Boogie (# 13538) on :
 
I have just read another decluttering site, here is a quote from it -

quote:
Clutter tolerance seems to run a fever cycle, much like the flu. Every so often, the cluttered household will become intolerable, sparking short-lived but fiery anti-clutter efforts. Piles will be shifted, boxes will be filled, stuff will be stashed--until the fever breaks. Then the clutter tide flows back in, confusion redoubled because of the flushed and furious attempts to get a grip in a hurry.
How true!

So I am now re-energised on my 15 minutes a day. Not a big splurge, just a constant chipping away. It's not bad here - but the battle of the piles is never ending for a messy moo like me!

[Smile]
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
I finally Had Had Enough (cf. WW on the Keep Calm... thread) and tidied the cupboard over the oven, which houses cake tins and - not coincidentally - the medicine basket.

Optrex, best before 2006, anyone? [Ultra confused]

At least now, when you remove the medicine basket looking for a paracetamol, fourteen cake tins don't cascade on to the ceramic tile floor (thus intensifying the need for paracetamol). And if you wonder why two people need so many cake tins, they date back to our fund-raising days when home-made cake was a sure-fire success. Too good to get rid of, though at least I've discarded the odd plastic shelf-type thing for the dishwasher, never used in years, that we can't remember the purpose of!

The utility room is now lovely and tidy (although the overflow, by custom and practice, is in the garage, which needs ANOTHER complete declutter [Roll Eyes] )

Mrs. S, still wondering what the glycerin was for..
 
Posted by Heavenly Anarchist (# 13313) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by The Intrepid Mrs S:
I finally Had Had Enough (cf. WW on the Keep Calm... thread) and tidied the cupboard over the oven, which houses cake tins and - not coincidentally - the medicine basket.

Optrex, best before 2006, anyone? [Ultra confused]

I raise you some diclofenic acid tablets, prescribed for a teenaged me in the late 80s and discovered in the medicine cupboard 18 months ago [Hot and Hormonal] I have moved house 8 times since they were prescribed.
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by The Intrepid Mrs S:
...Mrs. S, still wondering what the glycerin was for..

Erm, immediate suggestions would be the manufacture of either Tri-Nitro-Glycerine, which could get you in trouble with the police, or Royal Icing for a Christmas Cake, which could get you in trouble with your wardrobe!
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
Of the unpacking of boxes and trips to the tip there seems to be no end.

A lot of these boxes haven't been unpacked since November last year when we moved for the first time. I am not sure what is in some of them. I haven't needed the contents in nearly six months. Maybe I don't need them at all.

I have done a bit of decluttering of things along the way but really most of it was done before the big move.

Most of the remaining stuff is mine. Books, ornaments and files.

We got a new bookcase/cd storage unit. I think (unless there is another box somewhere) that all the cds are unpacked and there is plenty of space for future acquisitions.

The books are another matter. I have already decluttered loads and am reluctant to get rid of more. I have identified a few that I might consider surplus to requirements. I shall have to wait and see how the space works out.

The unpacked books and cd's aren't ordered yet. Some of the books are. Mainly into categories, sewing, cooking, God, Terry Pratchett - you get the idea. The cds are just randomly stuffed into the spaces.

Most of the ornaments are still in boxes. I am just consolidating the boxes as I came across them.

Meanwhile I have cleaned out the rental property. That is ready for the landlords inspection.

Love the new house but feeling a bit weary with it all at the moment.
 
Posted by ecumaniac (# 376) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by The Intrepid Mrs S:
cake tins … Too good to get rid of..

Ah, but are you going to bake this many cakes again? In the near future?

If not, maybe some nearby young person starting out their household could make use of them?

Nothing is ever too good to get rid of, if you aren't in use of them!
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ecumaniac:
Nothing is ever too good to get rid of, if you aren't in use of them!

It helped me to think of it as giving someone else a chance to use something, rather than me getting rid of it, which may just be semantics - but it made it easier. This worked with a 1940s pattern book for children's clothes which I knew I would never use, but which came from my family home and contained patterns for some of the clothes Mum made me as a child, including the knickers made out of flourbags.

Huia
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ecumaniac:
quote:
Originally posted by The Intrepid Mrs S:
cake tins … Too good to get rid of..

Ah, but are you going to bake this many cakes again? In the near future?

If not, maybe some nearby young person starting out their household could make use of them?

Nothing is ever too good to get rid of, if you aren't in use of them!

It's true, ecu, but I have reduced their number by half, by the simple expedient of sharing them with Miss S - I suppose she counts as a young person setting up home [Biased] . Now I only have one of each kind left, and the moment I get rid of that tin I just know I'll want it. And cakes are funny that way - they like the right size tin or they sulk...

I like baking, the only downside being I like eating the stuff too [Big Grin]

Mrs. S, regretfully rotund
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by The Intrepid Mrs S:
the moment I get rid of that tin I just know I'll want it. And cakes are funny that way - they like the right size tin or they sulk...

This is true about a lot of cooking items. You do need the right tools for the job. I have hesitated over a lot of my cooking equipment but have decided that just because I "could" manage with a couple of saucepans and one frying pan doesn't mean I have to.

I have a quantity of individual tartlet tins. I rarely use them but I will at some point and then I will need them. So I have decided not to declutter them.
 
Posted by ecumaniac (# 376) on :
 
I'm not young but when I moved to the uk I had to furnish myself a again, from scratch, so was very grateful of friends' cast off furniture and kitchenware.
 
Posted by Mrs Shrew (# 8635) on :
 
I have decided to keep the wildlife home, as per upthread, but with a slight alteration - I will remove the bits round the edge which are leaning on fence (as they will eventually damage the fence). We have decided to do this ourselves, so more work but much less expense.

The spare room continues to be my nemesis. Like Thyme I have boxes I have not touched in six months (and boxes of Mr shrew's which haven't been touched in two years), however I simply don't know where to begin.

I would like to use the upcoming bank holidays to do some sorting out but as my family live so far away we are using them to travel and visit without having to use up precious holiday days.
 
Posted by Nenya (# 16427) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by The Intrepid Mrs S:
And cakes are funny that way - they like the right size tin or they sulk...

[Killing me]

Like others on this thread The Spare Room looms large in my consciousness and, sadly, not in a Narnia way. Mr Nen and I keep talking about how we're going to spend some time sorting it. Yes, we really are... There is stuff in there from I-don't-like-to-think-how long ago, including a boxful of my mum's paperwork and her books which are a special treasure but we have no shelves available to put them on.

This is all part of Project Decorate Our Bedroom: there needs to be space in the spare room for the spare bed (from what was Nenlet1's bedroom) so that we can move our bed and bedroom furniture into there and be there while we decorate our room. This has been the plan since Nenlet1 got married. She's just celebrated her second anniversary. [Roll Eyes]

Nen - still unclear about why a room has to be totally empty before you can decorate it...
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mrs Shrew:
The spare room continues to be my nemesis. Like Thyme I have boxes I have not touched in six months (and boxes of Mr shrew's which haven't been touched in two years), however I simply don't know where to begin.

My experience is that this sort of 'block' is as much psychological as it is practical. Ways round it I have used are:

1 Find out what is in the boxes if you don't already have some idea. This will mean that you can make some sort of plan as to where the stuff will go if it is not to live permanently in boxes. If you find you have no place for it then at least you know that there is a different set of decisions to be made.

2 Just start. With one box. Then do another. Aim for something manageable like one a week or even month. If there is a choice, ie, you can get to them easily, start with the easier ones.

3 Even if some of the stuff should be in permanent storage, make a plan for what that storage should be. eg, something a bit more decorative than packing boxes.

Nen: I learnt from my brother in law that a room doesn't have to be completely empty before decorating. Just take out whatever you can and work round the rest with dust sheets. I've decorated rooms with furniture still in place. Even when we had a decorator in to do the main bedroom she was happy to work round some furniture.
 
Posted by Nenya (# 16427) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Thyme:

Nen: I learnt from my brother in law that a room doesn't have to be completely empty before decorating. Just take out whatever you can and work round the rest with dust sheets. I've decorated rooms with furniture still in place. Even when we had a decorator in to do the main bedroom she was happy to work round some furniture.

I've heard that from other friends too. Mr Nen, however, thinks otherwise... [Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nenya:

I've heard that from other friends too. Mr Nen, however, thinks otherwise... [Roll Eyes]

All is now clear [Biased] [Big Grin]
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nenya:
quote:
Originally posted by Thyme:

Nen: I learnt from my brother in law that a room doesn't have to be completely empty before decorating. Just take out whatever you can and work round the rest with dust sheets. I've decorated rooms with furniture still in place. Even when we had a decorator in to do the main bedroom she was happy to work round some furniture.

I've heard that from other friends too. Mr Nen, however, thinks otherwise... [Roll Eyes]
I'm with Mr. Nen on this one, when at all possible - otherwise you spend so much time moving stuff around, and when you emulsion the ceiling it can get downright dangerous [Eek!] I think it works out quicker in the end, really...

In other news, I was walking past the Sue Ryder shop yesterday and saw an orange cast-iron paella pan for £9.95. As I happened to have one ten-pound note in my purse, of course I had to buy it
[Roll Eyes]

As I said to Mr. S, 'It isn't Le Creuset, but hey, what do you expect for a tenner?'
Mr. S, without hesitation - 'Le Creuset' [Killing me]

I have wanted one for so long, but now have to clear a space about two feet square to accommodate it - MORE decluttering!

(Good luck with everyone's boxes and spare rooms, btw)

Mrs. S, looking for a paella recipe for oh, a dozen, I'd say [Yipee]
 
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by The Intrepid Mrs S:
... an orange cast-iron paella pan for £9.95. ...

Why do I never see things like that? [Waterworks]

I've been wanting one of those for ages too; we saw some quite nice "pseudo-Creuset" ones in Sainsbury's the last time we were home, but even they were about £70 and were so heavy we'd probably have had to pay excess-baggage on them.
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by piglet:
quote:
Originally posted by The Intrepid Mrs S:
... an orange cast-iron paella pan for £9.95. ...

Why do I never see things like that? [Waterworks]

I've been wanting one of those for ages too; we saw some quite nice "pseudo-Creuset" ones in Sainsbury's the last time we were home, but even they were about £70 and were so heavy we'd probably have had to pay excess-baggage on them.

I think it was Le Sainsbury's, piglet - they also had a tagine, which tempted me (but I had no more money) and a giant casserole which someone else had bought. She was thrilled when I told her the inside would come up like new with a bit of bleach [Yipee]

Mrs. S, still trying to find space for her new treasure [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
I never find things like a nearly Le Creuset paella dish in charity shops either!

I do have a well used 35 year old large Le Crueset casserole with a well developed patina inside.

Will it really come up gleaming with some bleach? Will one of those bathroom sprays with bleach do the trick?
 
Posted by Heavenly Anarchist (# 13313) on :
 
I really don't need encouraging to trawl the charity shops looking for le creuset dishes! [Smile] we have a lovely blue oval one which is just right for 6-8 people. It is my favourite casserole dish.
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
Will it really come up gleaming with some bleach? Will one of those bathroom sprays with bleach do the trick?

I'm a bit more direct than that, Thyme - I just boil a dishcloth or two in a solution of ordinary bleach! It brings the enamel up a treat [Yipee]

They do last almost indefinitely. We have a set of 4 casseroles which are more than 30 years old - and I well remember the day I discovered the factory shop at Coutances. Mr. S says I looked like 'a kid wot's been given a fahsand pahnds worf of sweets!' Goodness knows where that came from!

Mrs. S, possessor of some impressive arm muscles

[Killing me]
 
Posted by Curiosity killed ... (# 11770) on :
 
My mother cooked porridge in her Le Creuset and other casseroles to clean them - put me off porridge for years (in Aga slowest oven overnight).
 
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by The Intrepid Mrs S:
... just boil a dishcloth or two in a solution of ordinary bleach! It brings the enamel up a treat ...

Really? We have two Le Creuset casseroles and a roasting pan that we got as wedding presents 25 yrs ago from my sister and brother-in-law and the round casserole is very stained and bashed-about inside. Do you mean boil the cloths in bleach inside the dish, on top of the stove?
quote:
Originally posted by The Intrepid Mrs S:
Mrs. S, possessor of some impressive arm muscles ...

When we lived in Belfast, Debenhams were having a sale of Le Creuset stuff and I got a set of three saucepans, a frying-pan and a small casserole, with a hanging-rack. As you can imagine, this weighed just a little less than Jupiter, but I carried it from the shop to the Cathedral car-park, about quarter of a mile, in pouring rain.

Any suggestion that they belong to anyone but me is met with very short shrift ... [Devil]
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
Piglet -

1) Yep, just that.

2) I had one of those, too, but I wrecked the pans by putting them in the dishwasher - it stripped the varnish off the handles [Disappointed] (smack wrist!). I still have the rack, which I use as a cookery-book-case, and I hang keys on the pan hooks - magic [Axe murder]

You reminded me of when I bought my sewing machine in Gamage's closing-down sale over 40 years ago. I carried it home on the Tube, from ?Oxford Street out to Greenford, and until you do something like that you do not appreciate quite how far a Tube journey requires you to walk. As it was over 40 years ago, sewing machines were made from melted-down overground rails or the like, you can imagine what it weighed.

I still have it, still use it, never going to declutter that [Overused]

Mrs. S, sorry about the tangent [Hot and Hormonal]
 
Posted by cattyish (# 7829) on :
 
Right. <cracks knuckles, stretches arms, grabs bin bags and a vacuum cleaner> Dad will arrive on Saturday and I have three days of work and nine hours of rehearsals and a performance to get done before then. And the room he's going to be sleeping in is my craft place. Send me some good slinging-things-out thoughts.

Cattyish, pulling on rubber gloves.
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by piglet:
Do you mean boil the cloths in bleach inside the dish, on top of the stove?

I wondered that as well but was too shy to post! Thanks for the reply Mrs S.

cattyish - good luck!
 
Posted by Curiosity killed ... (# 11770) on :
 
Porridge smells nicer than boiling up bleach (or biological washing powder) with cloths on top of a stove, and does a surprisingly good job. I've done both, just not entirely convinced I ever want to eat the porridge that's doing the clean up job.

I got my Le Creuset pan set from a church fête for £5. And they were battered when I got them.
 
Posted by Caissa (# 16710) on :
 
Weeded out some records yesterday. We need to wrestle our basement into some semblance of order.
 
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Curiosity killed ...:
... not entirely convinced I ever want to eat the porridge that's doing the clean up job ...

Or any other porridge for that matter ... [Projectile]

Sorry - end of porridge tangent. [Hot and Hormonal]
 
Posted by Pigwidgeon (# 10192) on :
 
I took two large plastic storage bins of clothing to church yesterday for our upcoming Rummage (aka Jumble) Sale. I have a little more closet space now, and my drawers are so much neater and roomier! Next week I'll take over some household items and electronics.

And I've been organizing/decluttering my home office during Lent. There's been a huge improvement.
 
Posted by To The Pain (# 12235) on :
 
Gah!

I have been meaning to deal with the detritus that has washed up in the living room as a result of failing to completely unpack (and re-home the baby haggis) after several weekends away. Now I've given myself the motivational event of a number of people needing to have a small dance rehearsal in the living room tomorrow! It's about time but [Eek!] !

Strangely, I think the thing that will make it easier is sorting my wardrobe so that things can go back in it and I will have sensible access to the storage under my bed (which is where the haggis spend the majority of the year). So that'll be a good job for my afternoon of today, along with some extra errands.
 
Posted by Nenya (# 16427) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by To The Pain:
the storage under my bed (which is where the haggis spend the majority of the year).

You keep haggis under your bed? Doesn't it go off and smell terrible? [Eek!]

Here at Chateau Nen, Project Decorate our Bedroom is actually making progress. Our wardrobes plus contents are now in Nenlet1's old bedroom. Even more sorting and decluttering has appeared. The spare room is clearer than it was. Mr Nen is talking about Mirror Doors and Feature Walls. It's been a busy day.

Nen - now exhausted and looking forward to a return to work for a rest tomorrow.
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
Because they promised us showers, I coerced Mr. S into decluttering the garage. Yes, I know, we did it last year - but because it is the Last Chance Saloon for everything that has been partially decluttered from the rest of Chez S*, it has to be re-done periodically (like getting oneself organised - it just doesn't Stay Done!)

The dustbins are full and we even have some storage space on the shelves [Biased] I may have wrecked my beloved vacuum cleaner by getting dead leaves stuck in the tubes, but that's a matter for another day [Ultra confused] along with taking a ton of dead blinds, video tapes, bits of deceased computers, etc etc, to the dump - but NOT on Easter Bank Holiday Monday, thank you so much [Big Grin]

* it stays in the garage for six months, and if we haven't missed it by then - farewell!

Mrs. S, weary but decluttered [Yipee]
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
Well done Mrs S!

I remembered this thread whilst visiting my eldest brother over Easter. He was born with a poor sense of smell in addition to being learning disabled which means he was totally unaware of the pong of the damp dishcloths in the washing basket and in the sink, so I grabbed them and put them on to boil with a pre-wash soaker. The smell was horrendous, and my youngest brother, who has a very acute sense of smell, came in looking pale and complaining about my "archaic sanitary practices", meanwhile his son accused me of causing the bugs to become airbourne and likely starting another outbreak of the bubonic plague [Roll Eyes]

Don'tcha just love family gatherings (the purpose of this one being so youngest brother and his son could bond over building a piece of kitset furniture for oldest brother).

Actually they did a good job, given the limitations of the kitset.

Huia
 
Posted by To The Pain (# 12235) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nenya:
quote:
Originally posted by To The Pain:
the storage under my bed (which is where the haggis spend the majority of the year).

You keep haggis under your bed? Doesn't it go off and smell terrible? [Eek!]
Have no fear, Nen, these are not the kind of haggis that go off. There are about 40 of them and they were created out of socks and newspaper and come out on a roughly annual basis to be hunted so I can make grown adults do ridiculous things for small chocolate prizes.

And they are safely re-ensconced under my bed, having been removed for a weekend away back in February. The full how-to on our decluttering (really just glorified tidying with bonus TV-to-the-tip-ing) efforts can be found on the beloved's blog (lurky shipmate Callanish). There was something very apposite about getting through that on Easter Saturday, when Jesus was traditionally harrowing Hell. Just got to keep it up now, but we've hit 'dishes zero' each night since, so this time it might just stick.

Perhaps one day I will be an advanced enough declutterer that I will deal with the boxes that have been occasionally opened but not really unpacked since we moved in 21 months ago. Then I'll know I'm a proper grown-up.
 
Posted by Barnabas Aus (# 15869) on :
 
Having finished our internal redecoration, we now have a 6 cubic metre skip in the driveway slowly being filled with the accumulated useless contents of our double garage, including a dead mower, assorted doors, broken furniture and so on. It's about half full so far. We have until next Monday to complete the task when the truck will come to take it all away.
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
Well done, Barnabas Aus. You must live in a quiet little corner up there in the Hunter.

In Sydney, all material to be deposited in a skip is gathered in one space near where skip will be dumped. On its arrival, a frantic amount of tossing sees rubbish thrown out and skip hopefully filled. To leave a skip partly empty is an open invitation to have it filled at your expense with rubbish from the rest of the street.
 
Posted by ArachnidinElmet (# 17346) on :
 
Dumping stuff is not the only problem. The last (and only) time we had a skip, I had to prevent some White Van Men from nicking everything. Having tried to stack everything in some sort of order to fill the skip as much as possible and gone for a cup of tea, I found some guy in a high vis jacket hip deep in cupboard doors and circuit boards, presumably trying to find scrap metal. I was not a happy Arachnid. [Mad]
 
Posted by ken (# 2460) on :
 
Round here skips are fair game. Anything you put in is assumed to be unwanted and up for grabs.
 
Posted by sophs (# 2296) on :
 
We live in a council estate that still has a lingering reputation, despite the fact it's quiet with a group of polite kids who hang around playing out and threading conkers..we have had a skip outside our house for 4 weeks and nothing extra has been put in it.

We are buying an extra skip to put some general waste in it, and once the extension is finished we should have enough space to not feel cluttered. Although in the mean time it's...interesting.
 
Posted by Jane R (# 331) on :
 
ken:
quote:
Round here skips are fair game. Anything you put in is assumed to be unwanted and up for grabs.
Well, that's fair enough, but I think what Arachnid was complaining about was people coming along and rummaging through her carefully stacked skip and not putting the things they didn't want back into it afterwards.

And maybe I'm being unreasonable, but I would object to someone walking onto my drive (which is where skips are parked when we need one) and having a rummage. Unless they knocked on the door and asked permission, that is.

[ 23. April 2014, 15:23: Message edited by: Jane R ]
 
Posted by ArachnidinElmet (# 17346) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jane R:
ken:
quote:
Round here skips are fair game. Anything you put in is assumed to be unwanted and up for grabs.
Well, that's fair enough, but I think what Arachnid was complaining about was people coming along and rummaging through her carefully stacked skip and not putting the things they didn't want back into it afterwards.

And maybe I'm being unreasonable, but I would object to someone walking onto my drive (which is where skips are parked when we need one) and having a rummage. Unless they knocked on the door and asked permission, that is.

Yep, that's pretty much it. If it was a random person passing I wouldn't have been bothered. This was 3 men and a large van attempting to move stuff in bulk from a skip sat inside my front garden.

I did once have a rusted car rack (someone had thrown it over the fence) mysteriously disappear from the side of the house though, so scavengers can sometimes be useful.
 
Posted by ken (# 2460) on :
 
Drives and gardens. I hadn't thought of that. Skips are left in the street here. You need to get permission from the council for them.
 
Posted by Jane R (# 331) on :
 
This may come as a shock to you, Ken, but things are different outside London... [Biased]
 
Posted by ken (# 2460) on :
 
[Big Grin]

But I lived half my life in Brighton (5 different houses, one in Hove, actually) and I've also lived in Bognor, Durham, and Newcastle, and a small mining village near Durham, and members of my immediate family have lived in places I've visited in and around Glasgow (many houses), Gourock, Greenock, East Kilbride, somewhere in Ayrshire, Fife, Lossiemouth, Preston, somwhere near Preston, Newcastle, other parts of Tyneside, Seaham, Woodbridge, a farm near Ipswich, Chichester, Worthing, Lewes, and other places. And the only ones with a big enough front to park a skip off-street were the colliery village and the farm - genuinely rural places (and short-term temporary rented for us, not permanent homes).

Maybe its to do with hills?

(You could have parked an aircraft carrier in the place near Ipswich if you could have got it there. It had sheds housing a quarter of a million ducks, and a lot of space left over. My relatives were just renting a house on the grounds - we were nothing to do with the farm. But I will never forget what duck poo smells like. I reckon I could identify a mallard in flight by smell alone now. If it flew close enough.)

[ 24. April 2014, 06:11: Message edited by: ken ]
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
That is a rare and unusual talent Ken.
 
Posted by Nenya (# 16427) on :
 
Project Decorate Our Bedroom continues apace. [Big Grin] Our aim this weekend is to move our bed into Nenlet1's bedroom and ensconce ourselves there awhile. I am clearing my dressing table even as we speak (yes, really - those of you who think I'm on the Ship are hallucinating) and Mr Nen is in the utility room clearing out our collection of carrier bags. This, of course, is not directly related to the Project but it needed to be done and I'm grateful he's addressing it. He is Carrier-Bag-Preserver-In-Chief.

Nen - who has not passed on Mrs S's words in support of clearing a room before you decorate it. He's entrenched enough in that idea already. [Biased]
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
Whatever works for you, Nen!

I have just had to declutter the booze cupboard as we have had French doors put in the breakfast room instead of a window, and Mr. S decided that it would be better somewhere (anywhere?) else *sigh*.

Unfortunately that means I now have lost the surface where I stored my new/pre-loved paella pan so I had to clear ANOTHER shelf for it to go on.

I have a theory that Mr. S would really like to get rid of all the furniture, and live in an empty house with just a computer for company ...

Mrs. S, who was not allowed to declutter the booze cupboard into her stomach [Devil]
 
Posted by Pigwidgeon (# 10192) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by The Intrepid Mrs S:
I have just had to declutter the booze cupboard...

I'd be happy to come help you.
[Biased]
 
Posted by Barnabas Aus (# 15869) on :
 
Nen, I hope you have more success than us. We were to move into the spare bedroom once son and his wife had moved to their Air Force house, but daughter moved back in the next day, and our redecorating took an extra two years as a result.

On the current decluttering, our skip is full to the brim, and awaiting collection tomorrow. Some of the boxes we decluttered came with us to this house 25 years ago, and Mrs BA had not opened them since. She seems to be overcoming her tendency to hoard at last.
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Pigwidgeon:
quote:
Originally posted by The Intrepid Mrs S:
I have just had to declutter the booze cupboard...

I'd be happy to come help you.
[Biased]

Sorry Pigwidgeon - we have no cheap GIN and I (most unChristian-ly!) am not prepared for you to help me declutter my precious Bombay Sapphire [Devil]

Mrs. S, who put all the booze back in the cupboard [Angel] rather than make the killer punch!
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
Yay, this decluttering lurk is sometimes very rewarding. Wintery blasts have struck and I have found a lovely dark turquoise, merino top in my wardrobe and a deep purple long sleeved top with a design of leaves in light grey, both of which I had forgotten about. It's like being given a gift. Also I have dumped some ancient T shirts that were totally beyone the pale [Yipee]

When I was getting some potting mix in the hardware shop today I saw a wardrobe organiser that had 2 rails for hanging things, space for shoes and some shelves for tops etc. I am seriously thing of buying one because it would be easier to have specific places for things to go, rather than the present arrangement of one rail with shoes etc in a heap down below. I will need to take measurements and if I get it will need to attatch it to a wall or something in case we get more big shakes.

This getting organised could become addictive [Big Grin]

Huia
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Huia:
This getting organised could become addictive [Big Grin]

Huia

[Overused]

I find it a great cure for the blues, especially on a wet grey day. Unfortunately it isn't effective (or not AS effective, anyway) if you are on your own, or (I imagine) if you are actually Depressed. I wonder how getting organised could be organised as therapy?

Mrs. S, looking for a DPhil in Decluttering Studies [Smile]
 
Posted by Golden Key (# 1468) on :
 
{{{{{Everybody}}}}}

Making progress here. [Smile]
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Golden Key:
{{{{{Everybody}}}}}

Making progress here. [Smile]

Please don't declutter our thread, Firenze!

Mrs. S, wishing she could declutter some of her family [Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by To The Pain (# 12235) on :
 
Lodger No.2 moves out this week. This will leave me with a spare room until some visitors come to stay in August and a new exchange student arrives in September. I shall be decluttering away the enormous desk (it's a good size, actually, but coupled with the gigantic bed it just doesn't fit) and redecorating over the next few weeks. Thereafter I resolve not to fill it with displaced clutter from the rest of the flat. Honest Guv.

In other news, the grand declutter a couple of weeks ago seems to have stuck. Except that the hat of a 5' tall model of the Moulin Rouge has taken up residence on the dining table. But that's only temporary. We have even achieved washing-up zero every day since the big tidy (with the exception of last night when a delayed plane meant it was wash up and become a pumpkin or fall in to bed and not be a zombie at work today). Next challenge is probably laundry zero, but I don't feel that catching up with the laundry has the same benefit on my quality of life as the dishes do. Clearly a sign that I have too many clothes and should start my decluttering efforts in my wardrobe, I fear.
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
A laundry zero would be impossible here at the moment despite my best effforts as the rain has been almost constant. I managed quite a bit yesterday, the first fine day for ages, but today fog is forecast, so I suspect it will be one of those grey days when the washing just hangs limply on the line. I am seriously contemplating a dryer.

Mrs S, I know my clutter is depression linked but it almost seems circular situation of low energy levels leading to mess, leading to being overwhelmed by the mess, which then fuels the depression. It's not as neat as that of course with other factors coming into play. I'm hoping that my almond eating, which increases my energy levels will help break the cycle and at least give me more control over the chaos.

Usually I get someone from student job search to help, which had led to mixed results because they often don't have the life experience/confidence which means I still need to decide what to ask them to do whereas now I've got an older woman from an agency who is great because she can see what needs doing and will say, "how about tackling this next?"

My only problem with this is that agency gets a very large chunk of the money I pay, while she is on the minimum wage. This doesn't sit well with me as she is worth a lot more than that. I was paying individual students about what the agency charges.

Huia
 
Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :
 
Our garage has had a visit from either
a) the declutter fairies or
b) thieves.

We suspect it's the latter. They have taken a bike and possibly other stuff, but the cluttered condition of the garage means it's difficult to be sure.

We have reported the theft, and have been told a police officer will be round at some point. This could be embarrassing.

[Hot and Hormonal]

(Although when the police actually see the rubbish we store in the garage they may be more understanding as to why we weren't in the habit of keeping the garage door locked.)
 
Posted by Mrs Shrew (# 8635) on :
 
Pleased to hear about so much good progress everybody [Smile]

I hope the police are able to help, North East Quine

MrsShrew (who has been reading but failing to post anything due to a forgotten Ship password that she eventually remembered on the bus this morning - I think i need to declutter my brain!)
 
Posted by To The Pain (# 12235) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Huia:
A laundry zero would be impossible here at the moment despite my best effforts as the rain has been almost constant. I managed quite a bit yesterday, the first fine day for ages, but today fog is forecast, so I suspect it will be one of those grey days when the washing just hangs limply on the line. I am seriously contemplating a dryer.

Laundry zero seems like an almost impossible challenge to us as well, so we have decided that we will declare it in the first instance when the laundry baskets are empty, regardless of how much laundry is 'in process'. Thereafter we may progress to attempting to get all clothes clean and dry at the same time. Possibly even put away. There are no plans to include ironing in the scheme at any point.
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
You'll then need more cupboards, TTP!

I remember when nagging my son to declutter the heap of sh*t he called his room, he used to collect all the clothes that were lying about and put them in the laundry basket. (It's off my desk, innit?)

At least half of them could simply be shaken out, refolded and returned to him as they were [Devil]

I got a friend of mine who lives alone to take up something for Lent last year - when she came in from work and got changed, she put her clothes and shoes away rather than just dropping them on the floor. More than a year later it's still stuck. [Angel] Didn't work so well with the heaps of paper, sadly [Waterworks]

Mrs. S, applauding the efforts of all!
 
Posted by Beethoven (# 114) on :
 
On Friday last week I tipped everything out of the big blue box I use for carrying things to and from Brownies each week, so that I could use it for taking things on a Brownies outing. Does it count as decluttering that yesterday evening I rediscovered the dining table under the heap of mess? It's quite amazing how much of it could go straight to the bin, and how much more could be put away upstairs (or at least moved to the landing), and yet the box is still full...!

I'm needing to find some motivation to crack on with some real clearing - the village fete is coming up soon, so maybe that'll be my target. [Smile] Both Opuses cleared out their books recently, and we took enough to Op 2's school for their spring fete that it would have stocked a reasonable book stall just from what we provided! Hopefully we can repeat the feat with unwanted toys and games now. And both rooms will still be packed to the gunwales. [Help]
 
Posted by Landlubber (# 11055) on :
 
I just want to say thank you for your help weeks ago. I then disappeared ('flu, Easter, aged relative) but with your input I have cleared the wardrobe and one box under the bed and sent three carrier bags of clothes to a local charity [Smile]

Next the two boxes never unpacked since we moved in.
 
Posted by Ethne Alba (# 5804) on :
 
Does ironing count as clutter?

And if so, how long does it need to have been waiting for attention before it's in that catagory?
 
Posted by Boogie (# 13538) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ethne Alba:
Does ironing count as clutter?

And if so, how long does it need to have been waiting for attention before it's in that catagory?

Haha! Good question!

I used to have piles and piles of ironing just like I used to have piles and piles of paper.

I dealt with it just like I did the paper piles, little and often. I have an 'ironing station' permanently set up (it's a table board set up on the work surface in the utility room) and I do three or four bits of ironing every day. I find that amount perfectly manageable - so I put it in a routine, like teeth cleaning. Come downstairs, iron, let dog out of crate, walk dog. (She watches me iron while waiting - it's good for dogs to wait like this, stops the 'greeting frenzy' most dogs will get into if allowed).

It works! The hardest bit was getting through the original piles before I started the new regime.

[Smile]
 
Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on :
 
Hmm, Smudgie! There's your answer! 4 pieces every day between duvet and coffee! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Nenya (# 16427) on :
 
I never iron. I got the iron out last weekend to do an iron-on patch for a pair of Nr Nen's trousers. The time before that was two years ago when I ironed the white shirts for Mr Nen and Nenlet2 to wear on Nenlet1's wedding day. A lot of smoothing and folding goes on in my house. Also, I possess that wonderful thing, a tumble dryer. Huia - and anyone else who doesn't have one - I strongly recommend it. If you put shirts and blouses in and time it so that you're at the door when it stops you can whisk the things out, give them a shake, put them on hangers and presto! No iron required.

As I was explaining on the Purgatory "Stuff" thread, Mr Nen and I have achieved the move into Nenlet1's old bedroom (which I must start calling the spare room as she's not lived here for two years, see above) and we are surprisingly uncramped and comfortable in there. Operation Strip Wallpaper has now commenced. [Big Grin]

I aspire to Boogie's "little and often" when it comes to dealing with papers but I've got a long way to go before I achieve it.

I am on retreat this weekend so hoping to achieve laundry zero before lunchtime tomorrow. I am well on the way, with both washing machine and tumble dryer in action even as we speak. No ironing to do, of course. [Biased]

Nen - slightly wrinkled and that's not just the clothes.
 
Posted by Mrs Shrew (# 8635) on :
 
I have achieved ironing zero this week (the pile definitely counted as clutter as it had been there ages and was blocking access to other things.)
Laundry zero seems unlikely to ever occur, although maybe if I get a whole weekend sometime I will manage it.

Beethoven-my big Brownie bag sounds much like your blue box.
 
Posted by Caissa (# 16710) on :
 
Fortunately, all of our clotehs, are wash, dry, fold and wear.
 
Posted by Boogie (# 13538) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nenya:
I never iron. I got the iron out last weekend to do an iron-on patch for a pair of Nr Nen's trousers. The time before that was two years ago when I ironed the white shirts for Mr Nen and Nenlet2 to wear on Nenlet1's wedding day. A lot of smoothing and folding goes on in my house. Also, I possess that wonderful thing, a tumble dryer. Huia - and anyone else who doesn't have one - I strongly recommend it.

We used to 'iron' using the tumble dryer. We stopped using it when the economy drive started (we are both now semi-retired) and saved £16 a month just on that!
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
Yep it's not just the cost of buying the dryer, but the on-going running costs - I might have to give up bubble baths as a trade-off [Disappointed]

I had a real break through today. I was sorting through the wardrobe, biffing out clothes right, left and centre [Smile] and thinking about the organiser I had seen, when I remebered two small bookcases I had bought for my bedroom, but which when I got them home just weren't suitable. They are four ft high and 1 ft square and side by side will fit neatly into the end of the wardrobe, providing 8 small cubby holes for foot wear, woolly hats etc. I could even buy some light weight drawers to put in them small items like socks.

I have also allocated a place for my backpack so I no longer run around the house looking for it every morning. As my keys, buscard and wallet live in it this is essential for stress relief.

And the vacuum cleaner fits under the bed, which means I can use the larger space where it formerly lived for my emergency supplies [Yipee]

My mother used to say, A place for every thing and every thing in it's place I'm finally seeing that as a possibility.
Huia
 
Posted by To The Pain (# 12235) on :
 
Washing-up zero slipped again last night. But at least it wasn't a baking night like Wednesday was.

It looks (she says quietly, surreptitiously looking over her shoulder out of the window) like there might be enough sun and breeze this afternoon to put a load on the line so I may start to tackle the laundry mountain. And perhaps cast my eye briefly over the clothes in my wardrobe for items that don't get enough wear to justify their continued taking up space.
 
Posted by Eigon (# 4917) on :
 
I'm still using the iron that my mum bought me to go away to college - thirty years on! I do ironing, on average, about four times a year.

I'm rather pleased that I've decluttered my "in-tray" next to my computer, and found the notes I'd made for the next part of my story (which has been on the back burner for some time).
 
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on :
 
Although my parents always had a tumble-dryer, D. and I never had one until we moved here - I used to dry everything on radiators, clothes-horses or the backs of chairs.

I certainly wouldn't be without it now - and it negates a lot of the need for ironing, as long as you take the stuff out as soon as possible.

The first time my in-laws came to visit us here they were so impressed they bought their first one as soon as they went home.
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
I decided to declutter a velvet skirt which I had never worn. Due to freecycle bouncing my post back to me several times (my carelessness) [Hot and Hormonal] I got a bit flustered and didn't put the size into my post. A woman came to pick it up and it fits her perfectly [Yipee]

Most of the clothes I'm getting rid of are beyond passing on even for patchwork, but this was unworn and waiting to be taken up.

I've been wanting to declutter some cross stitch pattern books for ages, so I might freecycle them too.

Huia
 
Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :
 
I achieve ironing zero quite a lot, because I iron in front of the TV; I virtually never watch anything on TV without ironing at the same time.

Laundry zero sounds like an impossible dream,though, because of the dreaded "hand-wash-only" items which live at the bottom of the basket awaiting the rare combination of a good drying day / time to hand-wash. My husband bought a red silk dragon print hand-wash-only tablecloth in China; it is a nightmare. It's so large that it takes up the whole line and thus needs the even-rarer combination of good drying day / nothing else on the line / time to hand wash. The last twice I have washed it, husband has sloshed gravy on it on its first reappearance on the table, so it's been straight back into the laundry basket for a further long sojourn.
 
Posted by Nenya (# 16427) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Boogie:
quote:
Originally posted by Nenya:
I never iron. I got the iron out last weekend to do an iron-on patch for a pair of Nr Nen's trousers. The time before that was two years ago when I ironed the white shirts for Mr Nen and Nenlet2 to wear on Nenlet1's wedding day. A lot of smoothing and folding goes on in my house. Also, I possess that wonderful thing, a tumble dryer. Huia - and anyone else who doesn't have one - I strongly recommend it.

We used to 'iron' using the tumble dryer. We stopped using it when the economy drive started (we are both now semi-retired) and saved £16 a month just on that!
I shall not be sharing that with Mr Nen - the tumble dryer is one of the things that massively de-stresses my life and keeps laundry clutter to a minimum (not to mention time saving - I actually quite enjoy ironing but it takes hours [Eek!] ). We are both working at present and I consider it £16 a month (or whatever) well spent. [Smile]

Bank Holiday Monday and no excuse not to hit the decluttering. I guess I couldn't go on permanent retreat? No?

Nen - off to find a black bin liner.
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
We're still working our way through the shredding which was an unfortunate consequence of the garage declutter - a whole LARGE box of papers from Mr. S's work [Eek!] So, the poor little shredder is permanently set up in the garage and anyone passing by runs a few sheets through it, till it cries 'mercy' and shuts itself down.

Memo to self - why can't people do that?

Three days of sunny weekend/bank holiday weather have allowed me to achieve Laundry Zero [Yipee] even with bath towels!

Mrs. S, off to declutter the biscuit tin [Hot and Hormonal]
 
Posted by Japes (# 5358) on :
 
My current important decluttering task is the freezer. It is in serious need of defrosting.

So, I am enjoying a couple of weeks of eat whatever I've defrosted, and lazy cooking. I'll restock during the next half-term break, which is not far away now.

It's one of my favourite decluttering jobs!!
 
Posted by Boogie (# 13538) on :
 
My job for today is the wardrobe - we've got tiny moths again - grrrrrrr! Everything will have to be vacuumed and washed.

[Mad]
 
Posted by Ethne Alba (# 5804) on :
 
Father Christmas Hat still in washing basket, so no washing zero for me.......yet.

Ironing may reach zero level tonight, if there is something half way decent on telly.

Shoes, they are clutter if...............?
 
Posted by Boogie (# 13538) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ethne Alba:

Shoes, they are clutter if...............?

Shoes are clutter if you never wear them - simples!

[Smile]
 
Posted by Nenya (# 16427) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Boogie:
quote:
Originally posted by Ethne Alba:

Shoes, they are clutter if...............?

Shoes are clutter if you never wear them - simples!

[Smile]

[Overused] [Axe murder]
Boogie, you are our declutter guru. [Smile]

Another question - how do you decide what paperwork to keep and what to discard and, once decided, how do you store/file it?

Nen - seeking wisdom.
 
Posted by Ethne Alba (# 5804) on :
 
I just know that i have asked this question here before....but...how does one store shoes, so as to enable them NOT to be clutter?

There is a veritable clutter party going on under my bed right now and every now and then they all spill out into the bedroom.....
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
Loads of options here. We have a very nice stainless steel shoe rack outside the front door and we still scatter shoes all over the verandah!

[Hot and Hormonal]
 
Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on :
 
That would work if Himself did not use the bottom rack for all the shoes he no longer wears, but refuses to part with.

And what are you doing up at this time??
 
Posted by Firenze (# 619) on :
 
I have the interlocking boxes thingy. May not look pretty, but it beats tripping over scattered shoe in dimly-lit bedroom and smacking yourself painfully in the face with the floor.
 
Posted by Pigwidgeon (# 10192) on :
 
I just recently bought two of these. which I have stacked. The width is perfect for my closet, and they hold just the right number of shoes for me (after I'd decluttered about four pairs to our Rummage sale).
 
Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :
 
I have stackable clear plastic boxes, which hold two pairs each, and which fit into the bottom of my wardrobe.

I have a few pairs which I virtually never wear, but which I might wear again; perhaps I should make more effort to take them out of those plastic boxes now and again.
 
Posted by la vie en rouge (# 10688) on :
 
Hurrah for me! [Smile]

My best friend is organising one of those "sell all your unwanted stuff for a good cause" sales on Thursday (which is a public holiday here).

Tonight I went on the Attack™. Because it entertained me to count, I am giving away: 34 bits of jewellery (mostly costume jewellery but there's a few silver bits in there), 7 handbags, 2 of those big Ikea bags of clothes and various random household items. I was ruthless - anything that I can't remember the last time I wore/used has to go.

I am feeling very proud of myself.
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
That is so impressive [Yipee] [Overused]
 
Posted by Pigwidgeon (# 10192) on :
 
Good job, la vie en rouge!
[Overused]
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ethne Alba:
I just know that i have asked this question here before....but...how does one store shoes, so as to enable them NOT to be clutter?

There is a veritable clutter party going on under my bed right now and every now and then they all spill out into the bedroom.....

I have two of those hanging thingies with pockets in, hung in the spare wardrobe (yes, I know, showing off) and I think they are terrific. So easy to put the shoes away tidily in pairs, and they are on view and easy to see and get out again.

I could have more if I decluttered the suits I used to wear about 15 years ago which are now taking up the rest of the hanging rail [Hot and Hormonal]

Mrs. S, still working on the shredding
 
Posted by Landlubber (# 11055) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nenya:
Boogie, you are our declutter guru. [Smile]

Another question - how do you decide what paperwork to keep and what to discard and, once decided, how do you store/file it?

Nen - seeking wisdom. [/QB]

I suspect we have been hiding from this question, behind the heaps of papers.

Confession time: when we moved, we brought all the financial paperwork from the past 30 years with us. We had to dispose of at least six boxes worth. We now keep it in folders by financial year and shred it when the taxman no longer requires it to be kept. We also keep folders by subject (house, car, insurance, utilities ...) and, where necessary, divide them into two parts: one to be kept permanently and one which can be weeded regularly.

We then bought a smallish filing cabinet and the paperwork is only allowed to live in there. (Even so, I am sure it breeds ...)

We also allowed ourselves a space each where we are allowed to keep whatever we like and the other person is not allowed to call it clutter or complain. I have old birthday cards and manuals for a dead camera on mine. My husband has his grandfather's paperwork on his, so I don't think we are really in a position to offer advice!
 
Posted by ecumaniac (# 376) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Boogie:
quote:
Originally posted by Ethne Alba:

Shoes, they are clutter if...............?

Shoes are clutter if you never wear them - simples!

[Smile]

If they are uncomfortable, don't fit well or don't go with any of your clothes.
 
Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :
 
This is the week I'm going to declutter my study. It's mostly paperwork. I'm bored already.
 
Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :
 
The boredom is now tempered with appallment at how big a backlog of paperwork there is. [Frown]
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
Stick with it NEQ - 'il faut souffrir pour etre deluttered'*

*'one must suffer in order to become liberated from clutter'

but it really will All Be Worth It.

Best go and buy a new shredder ready for the onslaught, though! [Ultra confused]

Mrs. S, somewhat smug
 
Posted by cattyish (# 7829) on :
 
Defunct paperwork is compost dry matter in my book. In Mr C's opinion it must be burned. Of course, he doesn't take the ashes out, so I decant them (eventually) to the compost anyway.

I am inheriting my Dad's cluttering tendencies. It's not quite hoarding (I tell myself) but it's inconvenient.

Cattyish, Needs to spend time on this thread.
 
Posted by ArachnidinElmet (# 17346) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by North East Quine:
This is the week I'm going to declutter my study. It's mostly paperwork. I'm bored already.

I tend to record lots of radio programmes, Book at Bedtime and the like, that sit on the dvr for ages, but they're perfect for decluttering to as you only really use half a brain to sort through things. Recent programmes have been reading of Lynn Truss's horror story about cats, and the history of citrus fruit in Europe. Helps make the time skip along a bit quicker.
 
Posted by Pigwidgeon (# 10192) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cattyish:
Defunct paperwork is compost dry matter in my book. In Mr C's opinion it must be burned. Of course, he doesn't take the ashes out, so I decant them (eventually) to the compost anyway.

Would a shredder solve the problem? If Mr C wants the destroyed because of privacy concerns, the shredder would do that -- and it would make the paper easier to compost.
 
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cattyish:
... Cattyish, Needs to spend time on this thread.

Piglet. Needs to spend less time on this thread and more time decluttering.

[Big Grin]
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
Lynn Truss wrote a horror story about Cats? Must look that out. I tend to do my big decluttering bouts to the sound of story cds from the library. It means I don't begrudge the time so much.

Huia, addicted to reading.
 
Posted by ArachnidinElmet (# 17346) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Huia:
Lynn Truss wrote a horror story about Cats? ...

yup

A bit since, we had major work done on the house such that 70% of our possessions needed to be boxed up and approx. 70% of those were books. Quite a few of the books are ones that 'fell into my lap' on the closure and restructure of the local libraries; worth a read, but maybe not to keep.

I may look as though I'm reading, but as the book will end up in a charity shop, I'm actually decluttering. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Pigwidgeon (# 10192) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ArachnidinElmet:
I may look as though I'm reading, but as the book will end up in a charity shop, I'm actually decluttering. [Big Grin]

I love that logic!
[Big Grin]
 
Posted by Brenda Clough (# 18061) on :
 
I have had fine luck with a wire wall-mounted shoe rack. It hangs on the wall of a closet that is otherwise too narrow and deep to be efficiently used, and all of the shoes are off the floor and don't lose their mates.

The other decluttering tip I spotted the other day (I think it was via Martha Stewart) is to unsubscribe or mark as spam at least one commercial or marketing email this week. If you get one email a week from some site that you bought something from five years ago, that is one heck of a lot of email. Block it, and save time.
 
Posted by Ethne Alba (# 5804) on :
 
Of course...how silly: rather than endlessly waiting for the shredder to cool down....i can compost the wretched stuff

THANK YOU!
[Smile]
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Huia:
Lynn Truss wrote a horror story about Cats? Must look that out. I tend to do my big decluttering bouts to the sound of story cds from the library. It means I don't begrudge the time so much.

Huia, addicted to reading.

I can do almost any sort of w*rk - gardening, cleaning, ironing - almost eternally, with a new audiobook to listen to!

Mrs. S, earphones* permanently in place

*pink ones, decorated with owls [Overused]
 
Posted by Pigwidgeon (# 10192) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Brenda Clough:
The other decluttering tip I spotted the other day (I think it was via Martha Stewart) is to unsubscribe or mark as spam at least one commercial or marketing email this week. If you get one email a week from some site that you bought something from five years ago, that is one heck of a lot of email. Block it, and save time.

I regularly "unsubscribe" from email lists, most of which I'd never subscribed to in the first place. Even better -- I've just started calling every catalog company that sends me catalogs, often weekly. If they can't promise me fewer catalogs, I'm having them remove me from their lists completely. I'm hoping to see results in a month or so.
 
Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :
 
Well, one thing about decluttering the study - it makes laundry seem exciting. My laundry basket is empty!

Although the corollary to that is that in a couple of hours time, assuming no rain, my ironing basket will be full.
 
Posted by Jane R (# 331) on :
 
NEQ:
quote:
it makes laundry seem exciting...
NOTHING can make laundry seem exciting. Not even this.
 
Posted by Nenya (# 16427) on :
 
I decluttered a biro today. [Yipee] It may not sound like much but it was one of those freebies that come with begging letters through the post and it's the sort of thing I'd kept because it was free. I used it this morning and it was horrible - all blobby and blotchy - and instead of throwing it back into a drawer (it works doesn't it?!) I chucked it into the bin.

I also made a trip to the charity shop with three bagfuls of stuff we're not going to use any more.

Nen - making slow, very slow, progress.
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
Living with a hoarder [worse than me by several degrees of magnitude] can be difficult but last night I at least tidied away the old remote controls for devices we don't use any more - once they have been out of sight for a while they may mysteriously disappear altogehter.

[Cool]
 
Posted by Curiosity killed ... (# 11770) on :
 
I did a major declutter a couple of weekends ago to make space for studio flat contents in two bed flat, several bags of stuff out for rubbish and recycling, but I still need to do some more. But it's finding time when I'm upright and in.
 
Posted by Boogie (# 13538) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Welease Woderwick:
Living with a hoarder [worse than me by several degrees of magnitude] can be difficult but last night I at least tidied away the old remote controls for devices we don't use any more - once they have been out of sight for a while they may mysteriously disappear altogehter.

[Cool]

That's the way to do it - stealth decluttering!
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nenya:
I decluttered a biro today. [Yipee] It may not sound like much but it was one of those freebies that come with begging letters through the post and it's the sort of thing I'd kept because it was free. I used it this morning and it was horrible - all blobby and blotchy - and instead of throwing it back into a drawer (it works doesn't it?!) I chucked it into the bin.

Yes, it's this sort of small detritus I find so difficult to deal with. So piles and drawers of it accumulate and then it seems like a huge effort to go through it all.

I have two giant bags full of stuff like this in the garage waiting to be sorted, moved from the old house .

I can't just dump the lot, tempting though it is, because there is also quite a lot of useful stuff in there as well. [Help]

Regarding the freebie pens though I just bin those as soon as they arrive along with their paper. They never work properly and just store up aggro for the future when you really need a pen and have to hunt through all the junk ones to find one that works.

The majority of my major decluttering is finished, it is just the small stuff now and not letting it accumulate.

I think I have some more books I am ready to let go.
 
Posted by Heavenly Anarchist (# 13313) on :
 
Hmmm, I could go and declutter the two desk drawers in my workroom, they are filled with stationery, yet I only sew and mark electronically in there (no more than one pen and notebook needed).
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
I have cleared the paperwork mountain.

This job has been hanging over me for a long time. I lost control of it all somewhere in between the first move, Dad dying and the second move.

And I decluttered a lot of 'hidden' paper clutter that was out of date stuff neatly stored in box files.

[Yipee]

Now the surface of the table is clear I am going to try reorganising the furniture in the study. I don't think it is going to work the way it is at present. But I couldn't do anything about till I had cleared up all the paperwork.
 
Posted by Ethne Alba (# 5804) on :
 
Thyme, your comment about being ready to let go of things was helpful. Thank you!
 
Posted by Nenya (# 16427) on :
 
I spent yesterday sorting paperwork. It was horrible. Even the space I've cleared doesn't particularly cheer me up because I know there's so much more to do. [Roll Eyes]

Nen - looking forward to the day when she can also declare she's cleared the paperwork mountain.
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
I filed not quite a year's worth of bank statements today - and having several accounts and in two countries that took a while. It's not hard work work, it's just BORING!!
 
Posted by Golden Key (# 1468) on :
 
Making progress, but a lot more to do.
 
Posted by Pigwidgeon (# 10192) on :
 
Went through about six years of electricity, water, and phone/internet bills yesterday, shredding sections with my name, address, account number and recycling the rest. All had been neatly filed chronologically, but totally useless to keep. One year is enough.
 
Posted by Ethne Alba (# 5804) on :
 
Half way through the cupboard under the sink
[Frown]
 
Posted by Eigon (# 4917) on :
 
My neighbour does a table sale for the weekend of the Hay Festival. I usually join her and don't sell much, but this year I got rid of two occasional tables, a child's bow and arrow set, a few books and videos, a hat, a set of double sheets and some alpaca fleece ready for spinning!
And it was a lovely day, and we got to chat with some lovely people.
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
To the tip today. Surprisingly little to take! Still a bit of unpacking and sorting to do, mainly in the garage. I might start that this week.
 
Posted by Golden Key (# 1468) on :
 
{{{{{Everybody}}}}}

I'm ploughing away at stuff, with periodic moments of panic. My building is going through inspections, and mine is towards the end of this month.

My health makes it very difficult to do stuff. I'm pushing hard and making progress, but it's detrimental to my health.

I should have the worst of the clutter gone in about a week. Then it will be a matter of an extremely thorough cleaning, and then double-checking everything.

Juggling this along with my health is very difficult. I need to get stuff done. But if I get too sick from the exertion, it could make me too sick to get stuff done.
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
Golden key - I hope you find the right balance.

Yay - linen cupboard nearly sorted. One duvet cover in good nick going to a friend as he has the right sized bed for it and needs a replacement, various old sheets and towels that are totally beyond the pale are going to the SPCA who have a shop nearby. One of the staff delivers them to the kennels/cattery. This is good because it means I'm not tempted to adopt a friend for Georgie-Porgy (who would probably beat it up anyway).

There were 2 damask style tablecloths that will probably go to a City Mission Op-Shop and the Birthday Tablecloth. This was the one Mum used to put on the table for all out birthdays and special occasions. It has Colombines (the clown type, not the flowers) embroidered on it and some of the embroidery has worn off. I can't bear to throw it away it was part of Mum's "bottom drawer" or "hope chest" and was the first gift Dad bought her when they were engaged. So far I have been pretty ruthless with the stuff that came for the family home, but I'm keeping this along with the replacement tablecloth I stitched with a picture for each of the 6 family members.

Someone else will have to deal with them when I am no longer capable.

Huia
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
Well, we're going to have to declutter one of our two reclining chairs (with matching footstool). Master S - who is eight inches taller than Mr S, and built accordingly - sat down in it last night and there was a hideous cracking sound [Confused]

More careful examination this morning shows that the outer layer of lamination has cracked at the apex of the curve, and it does not look capable of being mended [Ultra confused] Can't remember how old they are, but they weren't very expensive (mercifully).

Poor Master S is mortified [Hot and Hormonal] and now we have to replace it somehow - contemplating recovering the (very elderly) Poang chairs from IKEA that we lent The Former Miss S and SiL until they got their furniture sorted!

Mrs. S, thumbing through the IKEA catalogue ...
 
Posted by Brenda Clough (# 18061) on :
 
My church has a used book sale every August, and I am using this year's as an incentive to cull out books. I have 20 floor-to-ceiling bookcases in the house, so this is no small task.
 
Posted by Ethne Alba (# 5804) on :
 
All of cupboard under sink...all of cupboard at top of stairs....tired out now!
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
Well done Ethne Alba.

I was interrupted in my cupbaord clearing by the bloke coming to fit new window catches (yay, no more draughts) and the need to clear spaces for him to work.

I will get back to the cupboards, but meanwhile need to clear the occasional tables out of the bathroom (sigh).

Huia

[ 03. June 2014, 21:24: Message edited by: Huia ]
 
Posted by Boogie (# 13538) on :
 
Stationery cupboard done (again) but it does get better each time - less unused stuff goes back [Smile]
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
I have taken some stuff to the charity shop today and bought some of those plastic drawer kits to organise our stationery hoard.
 
Posted by Persephone Hazard (# 4648) on :
 
My ultimate plan is to completely renovate my father's flat, which I will soon own outright, and move into it and experiment with living alone for a while. I'm doing the lot - removing a wall, new kitchen, new bathroom, new floors, new ceilings, garden landscapers, the works.

This is as a result the single hugest and most daunting prospect I have ever tried to take on.
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
Sounds like a wonderful plan, and you know we'll be right behind you cheering you on, PH! Please keep us informed [Smile]

(we're a nosy lot, you know!)

Mrs S, speaking for herself
 
Posted by Persephone Hazard (# 4648) on :
 
Heh, yeah, I eyeballed this thread as the place to panic armwavingly about it on the internet ;-) It is going to be a HUGE JOB.

Dad owns something like ten thousand books. I mean, you all knew ken, this shouldn't come as a surprise - and I'll probably want to keep at least half of them - but they all need to be gone through and organised and sorted, and then stored somewhere for the duration, and then there's everything else.

We accumulate so much *stuff* in a life.
 
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Persephone Hazard:
... Dad owns something like ten thousand books ... and I'll probably want to keep at least half of them.

You don't really want a flat - you want a library. [Big Grin]

I wish you the best of luck: I nearly get an apoplexy whenever I contemplate the task that we'll eventually face with Dad's house: he's 89, he's lived in that house for nearly 50 years and he's a bit of a hoarder ... [Eek!]
 
Posted by ecumaniac (# 376) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Persephone Hazard:
My ultimate plan is to completely renovate my father's flat, which I will soon own outright, and move into it and experiment with living alone for a while. I'm doing the lot - removing a wall, new kitchen, new bathroom, new floors, new ceilings, garden landscapers, the works.

This is as a result the single hugest and most daunting prospect I have ever tried to take on.

You'll need a whiteboard. And lots of post-it notes. (Not even kidding.)

I'm about to move house for the 5th time in 6 years, this time from a shared 3br house (in which I have 2br) into a fully furnished 2br flat.

[Ultra confused] what will I do with all this furniture?!!
 
Posted by Brenda Clough (# 18061) on :
 
Ikea, for bookcases. Far the cheapest, you can get them all alike, and by the time you assemble half a dozen of them you will be an expert.
 
Posted by Jengie Jon (# 273) on :
 
I do not think you have quite an understanding of the problem Brenda. Here is Ken describing how he organises his books to read

quote:
How do I organise books to read? In loose piles all over the flat. Some three feet high. Some on the floor some not. The three or four or five that are on the go at any one time will be lying open on the table or on my bed or on a chair or else in the bag I take to work.
Back in 2008 we shared pictures of our shelves. Ken's by far was the most impressive. Even then there were piles on the floor. I think Persephone Hazard is likely to have underestimated the number when she says 10,000.

By halving the number of books they might well fit onto existing shelving but she needs the space in order to get the renovations done.

Jengie
 
Posted by Persephone Hazard (# 4648) on :
 
What Jengie said! Plus, the whole place is - uninhabitable. Probably a health hazard.

But it will be gorgeous. It will be. And full of books.
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by piglet:

You don't really want a flat - you want a library. [Big Grin]

I wish you the best of luck: I nearly get an apoplexy whenever I contemplate the task that we'll eventually face with Dad's house: he's 89, he's lived in that house for nearly 50 years and he's a bit of a hoarder ... [Eek!]


I have an agreement with the Dowager Mrs S - who has lived in the same 4br house for almost 50 years - that she will Leave All That To Me. She is incapable of throwing anything away; having filled bags to take to the charity shop, with clothes she never wears, indeed can no longer wear, she will then have a change of heart and put them all back. [Roll Eyes] She couldn't even bring herself to get rid of an aged set of Dickens - when she already has a set herself that she never reads because the print is miniscule - because Someone Might Want It. [Eek!]

So when she shuffles off this mortal coil it will be a lot easier if I just move in with a skip. The real problem will come if she has to move out, other than feet first - but she's made it to within a week of her 90th birthday, so we'll worry about that when we have to.

Mrs. S, ruthless in disposing of (other people's!) Stuff!
 
Posted by daisydaisy (# 12167) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Persephone Hazard:
....We accumulate so much *stuff* in a life.

It was dealing with my mother's *stuff* (not that she had anywhere near the number of books that Ken had but she was pretty good at hoarding cracker toys) that got me started on my own declutter so no-one has to go through what I did - to start with it was 20 year-old bills that might be interesting to someone one day and theatre & concert tickets and programmes, then moving onto clothes that might come back into fashion but which I would never, ever fit into again, boxes of things that I had no idea what was in so I wouldn't miss the contents (I checked first and was right), and so on.
It's now a regular event - anything that didn't move (and sometimes even the cats look worried) comes under scrutiny.

Persephone Hazard, I wish you a smooth journey through to a lovely, beautiful flat.
 
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on :
 
With my dad it's not so much books as video-tapes (old war-films, every episode ever made of Bilko and Dad's Army plus much besides) and boxes of slides from over 40 years' worth of holidays, which between them completely fill a built-in wardrobe.

As for the garage ... [Eek!]
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
I had a sort of reverse or anti-clutter moment yesterday.

I was going round a market - lots of stalls with pre-loved/collectable/antiquey things.

There were two very nice Le Creuset casseroles in good condition. One in orange a bit smaller than my current one. One in blue a bit larger.

I resisted. But now I regret it. I don't have anywhere to put them and I don't really need them. I thought of The Intrepid Mrs S and her paella pan. But I haven't ever thought that what I really need is a different size of casserole.

I managed not to buy quite a lot of things so I am quite proud of myself.
 
Posted by Boogie (# 13538) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Thyme:

I managed not to buy quite a lot of things so I am quite proud of myself.

Well done!

I am a terror for impulse buying online - so now I use the 'wish list' feature. I never buy anything first off, it has to sit in my wish list and be revisited several times before it gets moved to the basket.

I've saved a fortune using this method [Smile]
 
Posted by ecumaniac (# 376) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Persephone Hazard:
What Jengie said! Plus, the whole place is - uninhabitable. Probably a health hazard.

But it will be gorgeous. It will be. And full of books.

Move the whole lot into storage before doing the renovations.
 
Posted by jacobsen (# 14998) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jengie Jon:

Back in 2008 we shared pictures of our shelves. Ken's by far was the most impressive. Even then there were piles on the floor. I think Persephone Hazard is likely to have underestimated the number when she says 10,000.
Jengie [/QB][/QUOTE]

Nevr mind the books-got plenty of those.
I covet the harp!
[Angel]
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
Well done, Thyme! I must say that decluttering has spoiled me for shopping (generally [Hot and Hormonal] ) as I really think I have plenty of Stuff. I must have saved a fortune!

The paella pan was a real exception to that rule, in that I had wanted one for ages, but just couldn't bring myself to pay for a new one.

I am happy to report that it is in regular use and made another appearance on Friday evening, full of Nargisi Kofta for Former Miss S and SiL [Axe murder]

Mrs. S, currently trying to declutter the church by stealth [Smile]
 
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on :
 
D. found a mock-Le Creuset paella pan the other day for $50, but it weighed an absolute ton* (it seemed far heavier than the real ones we have). However, right next to it was a slightly smaller, lightweight, non-stick two-handled shallow casserole with a glass lid, which only cost $20 (and was also the right colour - "Le Creuset" orange), so we bought it instead. I tried it out the other day and I must say I was well pleased.

Not de-cluttering, but as it sits happily on top of the larder-cupboard, it's not really cluttering either.

* I'd have almost worried about it going through the ceramic stove-top. [Eek!]
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
Actually, I prefer almost any of the other Le Creuset colours to the orange. They do beautiful blue and aqua - I have one casserole in each of those shades - and Former Miss S has a smaller paella pan in purple [Axe murder] Then there's the gun-metal grey and the almond, and even the brown seems to me to be preferable, although only slightly.

I lived through the 60's and wore far too much orange ever to love it again! [Roll Eyes] Brown not quite so much, though I remember tons of brown carpet and soft furnishings.

The Reminiscent Mrs. S
 
Posted by Sir Kevin (# 3492) on :
 
I just asked my wife to give away all of my extra-large t-shirts that she does not wish to keep for nightdresses. In my industry, I often get shirts from employers and shows that are damn-all worthless; those I keep are the ones from architecture school, my first real date with my lovely bride of 36 years seeing Sir Elton on tour, my Bridges to Babylon Stones tour when I was forty and the 'Kamana Wana Lei U' t-shirt I bought in Hawaii that was featured in a memorable nightclub photo with seven pretty girls when I was a 20-year-old university student who surfed a bit in Kona on the Big Island...

I am also plagued with 9 rooms of furniture in a 7-room house!
 
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by The Intrepid Mrs S:
Actually, I prefer almost any of the other Le Creuset colours to the orange ...

I love some of the other colours too (especially the turquoise), but as the rest of our stuff is orange ("volcano" I believe they call it), that's become the "right" colour for us.

Believe me, it's probably the only orange stuff we possess. [Big Grin]

[ 16. June 2014, 13:36: Message edited by: piglet ]
 
Posted by Golden Key (# 1468) on :
 
Making lots of progress, but still a lot to do before building inspection next week.
[Paranoid]
 
Posted by Jane R (# 331) on :
 
ecumaniac:
quote:
Move the whole lot into storage before doing the renovations.
If you can afford to pay for storage, this is good advice. We redecorated most of the rooms in our house before moving our stuff in (it was in storage for a week between moving out of the old house and into the new) and it's a lot easier without having to move your stuff around to get at the walls. Just remember to allow time to go through the storage bin when the renovations are done; don't get suckered into paying to keep the extra stuff in storage until the sun explodes...

I managed to persuade my mother-in-law to clear out one of her kitchen cupboards this weekend. We had to clear it out anyway because the plumber needed it empty to replace the taps, and when he'd gone we looked at the stuff and thought 'how much of this actually gets used and needs to go back in the cupboard?' It turned out hardly any of it did.

The unwanted stuff has only got as far as the garage, but it's a start!
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
I decluttered some kitchen items into the charity shop today. Some of it was a wrench as they were good quality, hardly used items that were wedding presents.

They were hardly used, but I felt very guilty about them as I did ask for them at the time.

When we moved I put them out on an open shelf in the hope that would encourage me to use them, but it didn't. I am hoping that now they are gone they will be out of my mind.

The lady at the charity shop was thrilled with them.

Also decluttered a surprisingly large quantity of shoe polish, either dried up or for shoes I no longer own.

On the downside I found a house clearance shop in the town yesterday. Lots of nice stuff and I bought a plate. I did send a plate to the charity shop to compensate though.

Also found a tapestry frame in the charity shop while I was delivering the kitchen stuff and bought it. [Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by sophs (# 2296) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by The Intrepid Mrs S:
Actually, I prefer almost any of the other Le Creuset colours to the orange. They do beautiful blue and aqua - I have one casserole in each of those shades - and Former Miss S has a smaller paella pan in purple [Axe murder] Then there's the gun-metal grey and the almond, and even the brown seems to me to be preferable, although only slightly.

[...]
The Reminiscent Mrs. S

I have blue cast iron ware, a red heart casserole and pink stone wear. I would be lying if I described them as anything other than my pride and joy.

I finally bought a sturdy warderobe to replace the ikea one, and it will be delivered today, along with a chest of drawers. Both will go in the baby's room. Despite a new extension (which is now full of a table, washing machine, DVDs and desk), we still need to declutter...and with three adults worth of stuff, and exer expanding amounts of baby paraphelia in a three bed house it's going to be a long job. Which would be fine if I didn't need it sorted in 12 weeks. We will be rather busy at that point.

At some point we will have the third bedroom spare once Housemate moves out, but that won't be til after the baby comes.
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
Sorted out some handbags for the charity shop.
 
Posted by mark_in_manchester (# 15978) on :
 
In the spirit of making a public commitment to something, I've decided to post here my intention to kick the hoarding habit. It's not helping me get well, or be good to my kids. The downside is that only the recognisable, complete, saleable stuff can really go - leaving me with the unfinished projects which I currently have no room to work on, and no motivation due to the piles of stuff to climb over to get to them.

So lined up for ebay photos we have an early 60s Ferrograph tape recorder (on my fixit pile for about 20 years), an Edison cylinder phonograph, an early Conn baritone saxophone, a cabinet model wind-up gramophone and pile of 78s, various bits of university lab furniture, a laboratory hotplate, two B&K microphone multiplexers, and (biggest heartache) my last East German two stroke motorbike with enough spares to make about 3 extra engines. Taxed in Jan and not ridden since.

When I add that this doesn't make a very big dent and there will have to be much more gone, you can get an idea of the problem. I'd say PM me if any of this appeals to you, but hey, were at AA here and I'm emptying my drinks cabinet...

MiM - grieving like a right pr*ck.
 
Posted by Nenya (# 16427) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by The Intrepid Mrs S:
I lived through the 60's and wore far too much orange ever to love it again! [Roll Eyes] Brown not quite so much, though I remember tons of brown carpet and soft furnishings.

I was at secondary school in the 70s and our school uniform was brown. [Eek!] Never worn that colour since.

Mark - we feel your pain. I decluttered some of my kids' school work months ago and have never really got over it.

Nen - happy to assist in the decluttering of any drinks cupboards. [Biased]
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
Oh Nenya, such an act of Christian charity [Biased]

Mark does Freecycle exist in Manchester? The reason I'm askking is that it does here and people list all kinds of weird and wonderful things, which others happily come and collect. It has been a boon to me in decluttering - just don't respond to the "offers" otherwise you may end up with more stuff to declutter.

Huia
 
Posted by Firenze (# 619) on :
 
MiM - it might be worth copying your post to this thread.
 
Posted by lily pad (# 11456) on :
 
A few years ago, I realised that I was having a hard time decluttering some things that had broken. (Yes, I realise this is somewhat crazy but still.)

A guide leader had made me a dear little clay nativity that had fallen and broken in two and I had carried around the broken pieces for several moves. I wound up taking a photo of it and found that that gave me the confidence to let it go. I've since done it with several other items that I should have been done with but was finding hard to pass on.

I've still got way too much stuff but some of the things that really should have been enjoyed by others are now gone and taking and having a photo of them helped.
 
Posted by Jenn. (# 5239) on :
 
Right, trying 10 minutes a day. Hopefully in a couple of weeks the bedroom will be sensible again...
 
Posted by Pigwidgeon (# 10192) on :
 
I have just (this morning) resigned as Secretary of the Board for a non-profit organization. Within the next week I shall be clearing out all of the records and other items that belong to them but that have been stored in my house. That will make it much easier to declutter my own stuff. (It also provided some emotional decluttering.)
 
Posted by Jenn. (# 5239) on :
 
Done a couple of bookcases and the stuff from my college study. tomorrow: desk!

[ 20. June 2014, 17:04: Message edited by: Jenn. ]
 
Posted by ecumaniac (# 376) on :
 
Staring down the face of 4 weeks between moving out of my current house and into the next one. 《Turns up the decluttering setting to Ruthless》
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
Good Luck ecumaniac!
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
What has poor Ruth got to do with it?
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Welease Woderwick:
What has poor Ruth got to do with it?

She's been decluttered, I think ...

Mrs. S, fetching her coat
 
Posted by RuthW (# 13) on :
 
Nope, still here! [Razz]

My mother did a great job of decluttering when she moved from a big house to a two-bedroom apartment earlier this year, so much so that there is room for everything in her new place and everything is all nice and tidy. After a week with her, I'm feeling fired up about getting rid of some of the stuff that's accumulated in the 21 years I've been in my apartment.

But we'll see how long that fire stays lit once I get home.
 
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on :
 
3 rooms reorganized yesterday. It is so hard to do when it has to be a double 'yes' with your partner, but we made good headway.

It made me realize how much art we have hung on to that neither of us has really strong feelings about - it just sort of 'went with the colour scheme' at the time, or was a memento of a gallery excursion. Our mantra has become "Is it beautiful, is it useful, is it meaningful?"

Suddenly having 8 things to choose from to put on a wall went down to 2 or 3. The nice thing is knowing that we both are really really happy with the end result.
 
Posted by Mrs Shrew (# 8635) on :
 
This week I have decluttered the boxes of equipment my Brownie (girl scout) unit uses for weekend away trips.
I inherited these boxes when I took over the unit 18 months ago. The difficulty is, of course, that everything in the boxes has been bought for or donated to the unit so I find it difficult to dispose of even patently useless items because they are not really *mine* to do that with. I finally snapped this week and decided that the unit running efficiently and without me going spare was more important than holding on to things I believed to be useless out of a sense of propriety.
It has taken all week to get them properly under control but now they are actually right and how I want them, and they have only stuff I need in them. I have replaced the old plastic storage boxes (two of them, each huge to the point that I struggled to get them in my car, and could not lift them without help from a strong friend) with three much smaller and easier to handle plastic storage boxes with integral lids. And with the clearing I have managed to do, I have actually got essential things (the spare sleeping bag, the sick bucket, the first aid kit and the leftover loo and kitchen roll carried over from last year)which previously would not fit inside the boxes to fit in them so this should have a big knock-on effect in tidying up my Brownie storage cupboard too.

We are taking the Brownies away for their annual weekend trip next weekend, after which I am desperately hoping to be able to get on with decluttering my own things again.

Following which, I may try again to have a go at tidying the Brownie storage cupboard (we are lucky to have a huge cupboard, but it is an absolute tip. We share it with the Rainbow (younger girl scout) unit and much of our equipment and craft stocks are shared, making the decluttering even harder.
 
Posted by Boogie (# 13538) on :
 
Well done Mrs Shrew!

Yesterday I did 'that' drawer with all the wires and chargers which match up to nothing at all. Now the only wires I have are useful ones! [Yipee]
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
Well done everyone!

We have had to declutter two reclining chairs in faux-leather. Master S - who is 8 inches taller than his father and built to match - sat down in Mr. S's chair and there was a horrible noise, later identified as the laminated wood actually snapping at the point of greatest strain. [Eek!] All attempts to mend it failed, so we took it to the dump (in dismantling it, we got oil on the carpet [Mad] so that had to be shampooed) and bought a second sofa from IKEA to match the existing one.

Fine - except that my recliner, now viewed from directly in front, rather than sideways,leaned like Lee Marvin's horse in one of those spaghetti westerns. Cue repeat trip to dump, having dismantled THIS one on a dust sheet to avoid the oil.

We had to bring down the spare chair from upstairs to replace it!

Mrs. S, exhausted just thinking about it
 
Posted by Mrs Shrew (# 8635) on :
 
Well done Boogie! "Those" drawers creep up on us!

I'm sorry about your chair, Mrs S. It sounds like a very productive weekend at least
 
Posted by Eigon (# 4917) on :
 
I am a bad person.
A friend said she was getting rid of a Viking round shield, left behind by her ex-husband. I don't do a lot of Viking re-enactment, but I offered to give it a home. So now I really should have an axe or a spear to go with it....
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
Eigon, some things rise above being the designation of clutter -Id give something like this the bebefit of the doubt/

Huia
 
Posted by Golden Key (# 1468) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Golden Key:
Making lots of progress, but still a lot to do before building inspection next week.
[Paranoid]

It will be this Wednesday. I've gotten a lot done, but

[Eek!] [Paranoid]
 
Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :
 
I have set a date for starting the total declutter of the study /spare bedroom. 5th July. And I'm getting excited just thinking about it. [Yipee]
 
Posted by Beethoven (# 114) on :
 
Mrs Shrew, would you like to come and sort out my Brownies clutter, pleeeeeeeease? [Big Grin] I took over a unit last September, and have inherited the most terrific amount of pens, pencils and paper, not to mention old resources! I've sorted out the absolute dross, but now have several boxes on my landing of 'too good to bin, not sure I want it' stuff. They've been there since October half-term, so have probably taken root by now...! [Hot and Hormonal]

On the bright side, I did declutter my bedroom a bit by putting away my mountain of clean clothes. So the floor around half the room is visible...
 
Posted by JoannaP (# 4493) on :
 
Being told that the church Summer Fair is in danger of having an empty white elephant stall is a good spur to a spot of light decluttering!
I have already donated a couple of unwanted Christmas presents to the Tombola (its no fun if all the prizes are desirable is it?) and we have been collecting unwanted books since the Christmas Fair.
 
Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :
 
Any time I've donated unwanted stuff to church tombolas etc, I've ended up winning worse stuff back....
 
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on :
 
The trouble with donating unwanted pressies to the Fête Worse Than Death™ is that the person from whom you got them might very well be there and think, "didn't I give something like that to D. and Piglet last Christmas?"

[Eek!]
 
Posted by JoannaP (# 4493) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by piglet:
The trouble with donating unwanted pressies to the Fête Worse Than Death™ is that the person from whom you got them might very well be there and think, "didn't I give something like that to D. and Piglet last Christmas?"

[Eek!]

The chances of my mother travelling 100 miles to attend an event she does not know about are slim, so we are safe from that horrid fate. [Biased] [Biased]
 
Posted by Pigwidgeon (# 10192) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by piglet:
The trouble with donating unwanted pressies to the Fête Worse Than Death™ is that the person from whom you got them might very well be there and think, "didn't I give something like that to D. and Piglet last Christmas?"

[Eek!]

If it's something that has been given to me by a parishioner, I donate it elsewhere. (I once bought at a church rummage sale a present I had given someone else!)
 
Posted by Brenda Clough (# 18061) on :
 
My church, bless them, has a used book sale every August. The best way to think of this is as a way to exchange books you do not (at the moment) want for books that you (at the moment) do. And this year should be especially efficacious for me. The donation period is just before I leave for London, so I will not be in town for the actual sale at all.

In the meantime, however, a relative has sent me two large boxes of framed family photographs, mostly of persons already deceased. I know this is in preparation for the relative's moving house. I still don't appreciate it.
 
Posted by Boogie (# 13538) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by North East Quine:
Any time I've donated unwanted stuff to church tombolas etc, I've ended up winning worse stuff back....

Give donations - do not accept tickets!!
 
Posted by JoannaP (# 4493) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Brenda Clough:
My church, bless them, has a used book sale every August. The best way to think of this is as a way to exchange books you do not (at the moment) want for books that you (at the moment) do.

I agree in theory...but Mr P and I are now officially responsible for the book stall at church fairs and, spending several hours with the books, putting them out etc., gives one lots of opportunity to find interesting things. I could try to institute a rule of buying no more than we donate but I am not sure that would work.
 
Posted by daisydaisy (# 12167) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by North East Quine:
Any time I've donated unwanted stuff to church tombolas etc, I've ended up winning worse stuff back....

At the tombola in the bazaars of one church I went to there used to be a huge doll dressed in a red flamenco dress - it was the unspoken and unwritten rule that whoever won it brought it back, and everyone was more than pleased to do so. The doll made a fabulous focal point, but was a bit much in anyone's home.... or so we thought until one day she vanished.
 
Posted by Cottontail (# 12234) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Pigwidgeon:
quote:
Originally posted by piglet:
The trouble with donating unwanted pressies to the Fête Worse Than Death™ is that the person from whom you got them might very well be there and think, "didn't I give something like that to D. and Piglet last Christmas?"

[Eek!]

If it's something that has been given to me by a parishioner, I donate it elsewhere. (I once bought at a church rummage sale a present I had given someone else!)
I once had a small and rather ugly model of a duck. I gave this to my mother, who sold it in a church car boot sale. Six months later it turned up in a church tombola. It was won by my aunt, who gifted it to my 10 year old niece - much to my sister's chagrin. I believe it found a home in her flowerbed.
 
Posted by ecumaniac (# 376) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Cottontail:
I once had a small and rather ugly model of a duck. I gave this to my mother, who sold it in a church car boot sale. Six months later it turned up in a church tombola. It was won by my aunt, who gifted it to my 10 year old niece - much to my sister's chagrin. I believe it found a home in her flowerbed.

You are allowed to landfill the truly ugly/pointless/unwanted things! Repeat after me. It's ok to throw it away. It's ok to throw it away... IN THE BIN!
 
Posted by Cottontail (# 12234) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ecumaniac:
quote:
Originally posted by Cottontail:
I once had a small and rather ugly model of a duck. I gave this to my mother, who sold it in a church car boot sale. Six months later it turned up in a church tombola. It was won by my aunt, who gifted it to my 10 year old niece - much to my sister's chagrin. I believe it found a home in her flowerbed.

You are allowed to landfill the truly ugly/pointless/unwanted things! Repeat after me. It's ok to throw it away. It's ok to throw it away... IN THE BIN!
I agree. Except the 10 year old niece loved it!

Sister's problem, not mine. [Snigger]
 
Posted by ecumaniac (# 376) on :
 
A happy ending then!
 
Posted by daisydaisy (# 12167) on :
 
Next phase of decluttering must begin next week - if only I'd realised it before today though. Today 2 people arrive to stay for a few nights, which has meant I spent the morning moving Stuff from my usual room to the Smallest Room in the house and emptying a few drawers for them to use, as well as moving furniture on the landing (only holding more Stuff) that I can avoid in the dark but which might catch my guests out. First bags of Stuff (mostly bedding) go to the charity shop this afternoon, and The Smallest Room is now full of Stuff that I thought might come in useful one day and that hasn't (usual story). I think I can get to my bed in there [Ultra confused]
 
Posted by daisydaisy (# 12167) on :
 
The next phase has begun [Smile] . 1 large item sold, another large item about to be collected, and I'm dismantling a bed (no-one wants it) to take it to the dump. I'm being ruthless and taking even more Stuff to charity shops.
 
Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :
 
The Great Study Declutter started yesterday, but was mostly tidying up other rooms, so that I had somewhere to move the clutter, pending decluttering.

I start properly today. Books into the diningroom, paperwork into the living room, photographs on the settee and a wee work station -shredder / bin / paper recycling box / charity box / possible sellables box set up in the hallway.
 
Posted by Jane R (# 331) on :
 
I got rid of four sacks of clothes last weekend and (thanks to the British Heart Foundation) a sackful of unwanted books last Thursday. Now wondering what to do with a bunch of old VHS tapes that we have no further use for. Can they be recycled? Does anyone know of a UK-based charity that's still taking them for resale?

Next job is shredding old papers. I've been putting it off for a long time, so there are rather a lot of them.
 
Posted by Curiosity killed ... (# 11770) on :
 
The only UK place that I can find that will recycle VHS tapes, but it's not a brilliantly straightforward process.
 
Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :
 
The Great Study Declutter is going very slowly. I've emptied about a quarter of the contets of the study, and only one piece of furniture, and yet I have managed to take over the livingroom, dining room and hall.

I'm going to empty it all, then sort and declutter before putting any of it back.

I can't believe how much dust there is!
 
Posted by ChastMastr (# 716) on :
 
I took out six bags of trash today!

Mind you, they weren't clutter in the usual sense, just, um, hadn't taken them out in a bit... [Hot and Hormonal] But still!! [Smile]
 
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on :
 
It's a start, CM ... [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
Unexpected phone call this morning means we have unexpected guests coming soon so Himself and Herself are going to have to move back upstairs into their own bedroom [don't ask, okay?] so the great bedroom declutter is underway - for the last couple of months all sorts of things have been dumped on their bed - it's a BIG job!

[Snigger]
 
Posted by womanspeak (# 15394) on :
 
Got rid of 1970's wall units ( well into garage ) and sorted the hundreds of books and wine glasses on their shelves. I even regifted some new champagne glasses when I counted the 60 champagne flutes I already owned! I did keep and drink the french champagne that came with them.

The problem is the hundreds of books which were were of no use - old text books, damaged etc were bagged and put in the boot.

Since that time ( a few months ago) the books have had many journeys around the countryside and interstate and one by one I spot one that looks interesting when lifting the shopping bags stacked on top of them and it makes its way back into the house,

I must go to the tip.
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
Repeat after me - 'I must go to the tip'.

Go directly to the tip. Do not pass Go. Do not collect £200.

Continue to repeat until you reach the tip (AND throw all those books into the skip!)

Mr. S again raised the question of a new kitchen last night - the thought of the havoc that would ensue is enough to deter even an avowed declutterer such as me!

Mrs. S, only too aware of what's at the back of all those cupboards! [Help]
 
Posted by Polly Plummer (# 13354) on :
 
And when you're at the tip, dump your books and go straight home - don't stop to look at the possibly-useful things that other people have left there!
 
Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :
 
The Great Study Declutter is into week 2. The livingroom is completely full of paperwork. The diningroom is completely full of books. The hall has the empty bookcases, so I'm walking sideways along it.

I've been slowed down by finding all sorts of interesting things, although a bit depressed to find decades old New Years Resolution lists that say "This is the year I will write my novel" something which also featured on this year's NYR list.

Still, the horrible green and pink flowery wallpaper is gone! I've only painted one wall so far, but I'm very pleased with the way it's looking.
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Polly Plummer:
And when you're at the tip, dump your books and go straight home - don't stop to look at the possibly-useful things that other people have left there!

It's not just me then? [Hot and Hormonal]

It's worse than going into an animal shelter, all the things trying to look useful and cute and pleading 'take me, take me'. It needs a strong will.

Great progress North East Quine. What colour are you painting it?

The Intrepid Mrs S - how did you train your husband to voluntarily suggest a new kitchen? Is there an app? Or is he a top of the range model and came already programmed? [Snigger]
 
Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :
 
The room is both our spare bedroom and our study, plus the repository for anything which doesn't really go anywhere else. I'm painting three walls (the walls the desk, bookcases and filing cabinets are against) in "parchment" a "warm neutral." Having had bookcases with multicoloured book spines against green and pink floral wallpaper was not good! Then I'm going to wallpaper the fourth wall (the one the bed is against) in an oat-meal and gold patterned paper.

I thought I could kill two birds with one stone on Sat by taking the godkids to the swimming pool and sorting through a large pile of Women's History magazines whilst spectating. There was a row of 32 empty seats. I went to the very furthest with my pile, intending to use the seats next to me for sorting. The an old lady came in and walked past 30 empty seats to sit next to me. No-one else came in after her.

So I was all crammed up, flicking through articles such as "The Lesbian vampire in pre-war Spanish literature" and "Abortion and sex-liberalism in Sweden in the 1960s" next to a sweet old lady. Sigh.
 
Posted by Boogie (# 13538) on :
 
I am also into a Great Study Declutter, week two.

I can not believe that I did it four years ago - it's taking an age!

At the moment I'm being ruthless with books - I want to cut them by two thirds. This to make space to take stuff from downstairs (which I do want to keep but isn't used every day) upstairs. I want 4 large spare drawers in the kitchen for Guide Dog stuff - the equipment arrived and there is lots of it!
 
Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :
 
This is a first ever study declutter. When we moved here, 11 years ago, it was our "spare room" and was filled floor to ceiling with boxes. It took a few months before it was box-free, but it's never been a "planned" room - it just sort of evolved. The floral wallpaper and curtains were there when we moved in.

So this is a once-in-eleven-years declutter.
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Polly Plummer:
The Intrepid Mrs S - how did you train your husband to voluntarily suggest a new kitchen? Is there an app? Or is he a top of the range model and came already programmed? [Snigger]

Oh, he's a top-of-the-range model, but has still required various upgrades over the years!

I got my first dishwasher twenty-some years ago by giving him a surprise 40th party - as we stood there at 3 am washing glasses*, he said 'Thank you for my lovely party, would you like a dishwasher?'

* top-of-the-range, you see - couldn't go to bed and leave the kitchen untidy! [Overused]

THAT led to a new kitchen as the dishwasher and washing machine had to share a set of plumbing so couldn't both be run at once. This kitchen, however, is only 23 years old and has YEARS left in it...

I think the reason I'm procrastinating is I know we won't want the same things - he'll want high-gloss units and I'd much rather have wood *sigh*. When we re-did the bathrooms, basically we had to choose tiles etc for one bathroom each, or we'd still be stuck with the elephant-grey suites, tiles etc [Projectile]

Mrs. S, firmly resolved against melamine [Snigger]
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
Decor sounds lovely North East Quine.

Boogie, I've managed to get rid of a lot of books, but somehow what appears to be huge quantities of books declutterd never seems to translate into an equivalent amount of freed up space.

The Intrepid Mrs S, sounds like you did get a top of the range model!
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
My final artisan designed and hand painted tile has arrived. It's lovely. The plumbers and builder start my bathroom on August 18 [Yipee]

Huia
 
Posted by ArachnidinElmet (# 17346) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Thyme:
...Boogie, I've managed to get rid of a lot of books, but somehow what appears to be huge quantities of books declutterd never seems to translate into an equivalent amount of freed up space...

It's a little known fact that books breed. You've got to watch 'em like a hawk.
 
Posted by Lyda*Rose (# 4544) on :
 
I haven't posted here in quite a while (never? I can't remember) because the do-housework part of my brain is damaged. But the panic!panic! part of the brain that sees an apartment inspection coming is in fine working order. So I called a friend who has worked in enough batshit homes not to freak out at mine and we put in about eighteen hours of hard labor in the past few days and the place is nearly beaten into presentable order. (I did pay her some for her efforts.) She has had to leave on a short trip starting today, and there are still some things to do. Inspection should be Wednesday. I'm using the leftover momentum to finish. I told her I'd like to hire her to come in a couple of times a month to work for an hour or two side by side with me so I don't have to go through this panic again.

You guys are very inspiring, and I ask for your prayers for my persistence in finishing the job. Knowing myself I can use all the heavenly help you can ask for me. Thanks!
 
Posted by ChastMastr (# 716) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by piglet:
It's a start, CM ... [Big Grin]

Yes, it's something I should again.
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
CM some years back you were the person who introduced me to Flylady. I don't follow it now, but the principle of cleaning in 15 minute bites, with a rest in the 4th period allowed me to approach a very messy house without feeling totally overwhelmed when I had to evacuate for earthquake repairs 3 years ago.

I always wanted to thank you for that.

Huia
 
Posted by Boogie (# 13538) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Huia:
CM some years back you were the person who introduced me to Flylady. I don't follow it now, but the principle of cleaning in 15 minute bites, with a rest in the 4th period allowed me to approach a very messy house without feeling totally overwhelmed when I had to evacuate for earthquake repairs 3 years ago.

I always wanted to thank you for that.

Oh yes! I had forgotten all about flylady - but I still do the 15 minute thing, I just thought it had been my own idea!

[Smile]
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
Hmmm, I can't get the link for Flylady to work but then some links don't work from here for some strange reason - the link is certainly the right link as I have checked that. Perhaps housew*rk links are banned here.

Anyone else having a problem with it?
 
Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :
 
As all our chairs had piles of books on them, I sat on the floor to take a phone call - and got wedged between bits of furniture. Had to be hauled up by my daughter. The sooner I can move stuff back into the study the better!
 
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on :
 
I was able to open the Flylady link OK over here - as you say, WW, perhaps it's God's way of telling you that housework is a Bad Idea™.

[Snigger]
 
Posted by Boogie (# 13538) on :
 
I could open it WW - looks like you are allergic!

All the many, many, many adverts are annoying, but here is a gem. I aspire to this and I AM getting there.

"One of the main reasons stuff piles up on counters, dining tables, coffee tables and floors is that it’s homeless. When an item has no “home,” it gets added to an IPOD (Important Pile Of Decisions). That’s why it’s important to make sure everything in your home lives somewhere"

as my Mum used to say "A place for everything and everything in its place". She managed this for 93 years - I clearly don't have her jeans!

[Smile]
 
Posted by Nenya (# 16427) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Boogie:
"One of the main reasons stuff piles up on counters, dining tables, coffee tables and floors is that it’s homeless. When an item has no “home,” it gets added to an IPOD (Important Pile Of Decisions). That’s why it’s important to make sure everything in your home lives somewhere."

That's very good, and very true.

Frankly, we have never decluttered. I'm a bit of a hoarder and Mr Nen is even worse. If I clear a space, he moves some of his stuff into it. [brick wall] [Mad] He grew up as an only child in a large house - the spare room was his, as was the lounge (his parents basically lived in the kitchen-diner with the Aga) and never had to clear stuff out. When we made the big move from the south coast to where we are now, empty paint pots from the garage came with us. [Roll Eyes]

However, we have a big Life Change coming upon us as Nenlet2 flies the nest in September and decluttering is top of my list. I have yet to have The Talk with Mr Nen to establish this. [Help]

Nen - hoarder with inner minimalist struggling to get out.
 
Posted by Pigwidgeon (# 10192) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Boogie:
I clearly don't have her jeans!

[Smile]

One less thing to declutter. Whereas her genes sound as if they'd be a good thing to have.
[Biased]

(My Mom's jeans wouldn't fit me, and -- unfortunately -- her genes are one of my excuses for a tendency to clutter.)
 
Posted by Boogie (# 13538) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Pigwidgeon:
quote:
Originally posted by Boogie:
I clearly don't have her jeans!

[Smile]

One less thing to declutter. Whereas her genes sound as if they'd be a good thing to have.

Oooops - disslecksia rools!
 
Posted by Jenn. (# 5239) on :
 
Had a clear out today - 6 boxes emptied and half a box of relevant stuff put back to be filed. Feeling very pleased with myself!

Now need to keep up the momentum for the desk...
 
Posted by ChastMastr (# 716) on :
 
I like the 15 minute thing (and indeed was taught about using a timer by Daddy Vern) but FlyLady drives me insane. I perceive a very... ah... 1950s sitcom notion of reality from her, so your mileage may vary.
 
Posted by ecumaniac (# 376) on :
 
I like "unf*** your habitat" which is like flylady but without the girly housewife stuff which annoys me a lot.

Replace the *** with the f word.

Oh yeah, there's a lot of swearing ! So you need to be ok with that.
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
That sounds more like my kind of thing Ecumanic. I found the 15 minute thing and some of hints helpful on FlyLady, but not the worldview.

Will check out your suggestion.

Huia
 
Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on :
 
I have just done cleaning up 2 file boxes. When the other file is done, it will be slimmer. Total time agonising: 1 year. Total time spent filing: 30 minutes,

[Eek!]
 
Posted by ChastMastr (# 716) on :
 
[Overused] for UnF*** Your Habitat [Overused]
 
Posted by Boogie (# 13538) on :
 
It's excellent!

Here is a link to simple but good habits.

[Smile]
 
Posted by Jenn. (# 5239) on :
 
Right, the desk declutter has begun. I have realised that I have a serious aversion to filing, and that this is a problem. I'm going to try 10 minute slots and see how I get on...
 
Posted by JoannaP (# 4493) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by PeteC:
I have just done cleaning up 2 file boxes. When the other file is done, it will be slimmer. Total time agonising: 1 year. Total time spent filing: 30 minutes,

[Eek!]

That sounds about right [Biased]
It is good to know that I am not alone in spending ages procrastinating over something that does not take that long, when I finally get down to it.
 
Posted by ChastMastr (# 716) on :
 
Going to bite the bullet when done with the Ship reading/posting shortly and start exploring UFYH. [Smile] Fingers crossed!!
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
Originally posted by PeteC:
I have just done cleaning up 2 file boxes. When the other file is done, it will be slimmer. Total time agonising: 1 year. Total time spent filing: 30 minutes,


I can't bear to think of the amount of my life I have wasted like this!

Often the fact that I have not done what I ought to have done induces a sort of paralysis about doing anything else, especially anything I might enjoy! In fact I haven't enjoyed a lot of things because of the guilt about the undone thing I have been procrastinating over.
 
Posted by Nenya (# 16427) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Thyme:
Often the fact that I have not done what I ought to have done induces a sort of paralysis about doing anything else, especially anything I might enjoy! In fact I haven't enjoyed a lot of things because of the guilt about the undone thing I have been procrastinating over.

I so relate to this - it's completely paralysing.

I am thinking about taking some time off work specifically to concentrate on the decluttering. 15 minutes a day doesn't work here, the house is far too full of stuff; I need some days of Slash and Burn first to clear the decks and get systems in place in order to move forwards. Case in point - had to clear the breakfast bar this morning to give the boiler man space to service the boiler. Among other things there were copies of the last two weeks of the local paper. What the heck were they doing on my breakfast bar? [Eek!]

I did used to be a Fly Baby but I couldn't keep up the pace. Maybe that other site is more up my street. [Biased]

Nen - determining to find other homes for the stuff that has no right in the kitchen.
 
Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :
 
Originally posted by Thyme:
quote:
Often the fact that I have not done what I ought to have done induces a sort of paralysis about doing anything else, especially anything I might enjoy! In fact I haven't enjoyed a lot of things because of the guilt about the undone thing I have been procrastinating over.

Gosh, yes!

The study / bedroom is now decorated, so today's the day I start decluttering in earnest as I put things back into it.

It's also the day I start buying new stuff - the old blue bedside lamp and blue clock (the clock with the sellotape holding the battery in!) didn't go with the old pink/green colour scheme, but the whole place was such a mess that it didn't matter.

Today I start looking for a new lamp and clock.
 
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by North East Quine:
Today I start looking for a new lamp and clock.

You will throw the old, broken ones away, won't you?

If not, it's not de-cluttering, it's re-cluttering ... [Devil]
 
Posted by Brenda Clough (# 18061) on :
 
I have a friend who had clutter issues. These were greatly exacerbated by a messy divorce. She loaded all her possessions into a rented storage unit and lived a nomad life for some time.

Around here a storage unit costs about $100 a month, a considerable sum if you are on a limited income. Even with the prospect of saving this sum before her, she was unable to declutter. I tried to help her sort and get rid of stuff; it took years. And the saddest thing was, in year 2 or 3, when we carried stuff from the storage unit to the dumpster and popped it in. (Unhelpfully, I suggested just piling everything up, applying some accelerant, and throwing in a lighted match.)

She confided that, if only she could send an email back through time to her younger self, she would have advised herself to just throw everything away at the outset, and pocket the money.
 
Posted by Japes (# 5358) on :
 
I have just ruthlessly de-cluttered the Japes clothing situation. Two bin liners full to go to the clothes recycling when I go that way next week.

Specifically I de-cluttered socks, T-shirts, rugby shirts, no-longer-necessary-for-work trousers and disreputable jeans. There's a remarkable amount of space in the wardrobe now, and still plenty of clothes to wear.

I think I can now treat myself to a new Scotland Rugby Shirt as the twenty year old one has just gone in the bag.
 
Posted by Jenn. (# 5239) on :
 
Desk declutter complete bar the filing. TOmorrow is wardrobe declutter day.. WHOOP! I treated myself to some new clothes in anticipation though... :S
 
Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :
 
Yesterday I failed to declutter much of my stationery. However, I now know I have enough envelopes to last for several years, they're all in the same place, and my drawers are much tidier.

I have dozens of postcards, mostly bought on holiday and then not written. I'm not sure what I can actually do with them, but it seems a shame to dump them in the recycling.

Today I reshelve my books. I only need to reduce my books by about one-tenth to fit them in.
 
Posted by Ethne Alba (# 5804) on :
 
just had two days of near hysteria brought on by loosing various and assorted v-i-t-a-l stuff.

I Need To De Clutter.......
[Frown]
 
Posted by ChastMastr (# 716) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jenn.:
TOmorrow is wardrobe declutter day..

Oh, just keep pushing everything to the back and let the Narnians have it. [Smile]
 
Posted by cattyish (# 7829) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by North East Quine:
<snip>
I have dozens of postcards, mostly bought on holiday and then not written. I'm not sure what I can actually do with them, but it seems a shame to dump them in the recycling.
<snip>

How about writing them now and sending them to surprised but delighted friends and family?

Cattyish, uses free postcards for quick notes a lot.
 
Posted by Mrs Shrew (# 8635) on :
 
An emergency tidying mission last weekend (I got out my sewing machine buy the power cord was missing so I had to go through boxes till I found it) made me realise that I still have not unpacked even half the spare room boxes since moving in. I'm feeling quite fired up to tackle it though - hoping that lasts for a few weeks as the sewing project is rather mammoth and has a deadline in the first week of August.

I have been looking at unf*ck your habitat - thanks so much for that link, it is encouraging me to start making little habits like always putting shoes away which will hopefully help long term.
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
That was the one good piece of advice my late and not-very-lamented Uncle Len gave me - 'Don't put it down, put it away!'

Once you HAVE decluttered, this is essential! [Cool]

Mrs. S - now guaranteed uncle-free [Yipee]
 
Posted by Ethne Alba (# 5804) on :
 
Postcards are gratefully received by charity shops....i know, i get mine there!

Genuine question, how does cluttering up our homes start? Is it genetic? Or learned behaviour? Is it a response to something in our lives? Or laziness?
Only asking as i would Love to be done with it once and for all and maybe knowing Why i do this might just help me.....
 
Posted by Boogie (# 13538) on :
 
Good question Ethne Alba.

My Mum and Dad were the tidiest people I have ever known, so it certainly wasn't learned behaviour for me! My Dad said he was tidy because he was lazy (didn't want to have to tidy up) and I am just beginning to understand his logic as my house creeps towards having "a place for everything and everything in ts place".

Why it has taken me so long I have no idea!
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
Somebody has decluttered three dinner plates from my kitchen cupboard! I have no clue where they might be, and I'm sure we haven't broken them [Confused]

(embarrassing, as I really need a dozen for tonight and would have liked them to match *sigh*)

That may be the downside to being organised - as Boogie says, a place for everything and everything in its place - that when you know where everything is, if it isn't, you are completely flummoxed (to put it politely).

Mrs. S, scratching her head
 
Posted by Brenda Clough (# 18061) on :
 
I have found that survivors of the Depression find it difficult to get rid of stuff. Of -course- there is a use for all those styrofoam meat trays, they will come in handy for something some day! Hard times taught them to be fanatically thrifty.

Not that this is any excuse for us younger people.
 
Posted by Nenya (# 16427) on :
 
My mum was a major declutterer, my dad a hoarder, and I'm something of a hoarder too and certainly not good at tidying. We were at Nenlet1's house for lunch and she and her husband keep their house really clean and today... puts me to shame... but son in law is also tidy... unlike Mr Nen...

Nen - loving the way Mrs S's decluttering also extends to her relatives. [Killing me]
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nenya:
Nen - loving the way Mrs S's decluttering also extends to her relatives. [Killing me]

Still a way to go on that one, Nen!

Mrs. S, who still finds her relatives more of a trial than the decluttering [Help]
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
I have to say that decluttering some of my relatives would be wonderful!!

I've got a little list, I've got a little list;
and there'll none of them be missed, there'll none of them be missed!


Sorry for that - back to the topic...
 
Posted by Firenze (# 619) on :
 
I think today's it's got to me. Maybe it's the unreachable cobwebs in the stairwell. Or the walk-cupboards that are mini rooms (two have windows) - that haven't been dusted in decades. Or the falling plaster that needs repair - but where am I going to put the stuff that has to be displaced to get access? So much stuff I can't clear out on my own cognisance. And for what I can, how can I physically get it out of the house to the recycling centre or wherever?

How do you start to tackle a lifetime of Stuff?
 
Posted by ecumaniac (# 376) on :
 
One bag at a time, Firenze. [Votive]
 
Posted by Nenya (# 16427) on :
 
So Mr Nen went clothes shopping yesterday and vowed he would declutter his wardrobe to make room for the new things. He just asked for my help with this... as usual it involved squeezing as much as possible into the spare room wardrobe to make space in his already full-to-bursting double-wardrobe-with-shelves. Completely resistant to the words "charity shop" and "clothes bank." [Roll Eyes] [brick wall]

I, meanwhile, have nearly cleared the paperwork that was on my breakfast bar so it's not all bad.

Nen - humming "One bag at a time, Firenze" to the tune of a well-known hymn. [Biased]
 
Posted by ChastMastr (# 716) on :
 
I struggle most, I think (?) with the "everything is messy and each element screams at me in the same shrill voice" issue, so I wind up never actually starting and finishing, well, anything. [Help]
 
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nenya:
... humming "One bag at a time, Firenze" to the tune of a well-known hymn. [Biased]

Oh good - it wasn't just me then ... [Snigger]
 
Posted by ChastMastr (# 716) on :
 
Ouch. Except I'm hearing it to the tune of the 1970s sitcom theme song... [Ultra confused]

But now...

So are you.

[Snigger]
 
Posted by Nenya (# 16427) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ChastMastr:
Ouch. Except I'm hearing it to the tune of the 1970s sitcom theme song... [Ultra confused]

But now...

So are you.

[Snigger]

Nope. Must have been before my time.
 
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on :
 
May be a Pond thing - it doesn't ring those bells with me. I was remembering it as a song by Lena Martell that clogged up the Charts many moons ago.

Sorry - that was a bit of a tangent. Back to the de-cluttering ... [Big Grin]
 
Posted by ecumaniac (# 376) on :
 
I have no idea either.

My housemate's have started to pack (their moving van arrives tomorrow) so the house is utter chaos. I want to start packing my stuff but there's no space anywhere for the boxes!

An ex took me out for dinner last night and gave me a half doz large cardboard boxes. He did always know how to woo a lady [Biased]
 
Posted by Jane R (# 331) on :
 
ecumaniac:
quote:
My housemate's have started to pack (their moving van arrives tomorrow)
[Eek!] Do they not have very much stuff then?

It took us two weeks to pack last time we moved, and even then we were feverishly flinging things into boxes until midnight the night before...
 
Posted by ChastMastr (# 716) on :
 
Oh, here you are then. [Smile]
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
Silver linings and all that - having discovered that three large dinner plates had absconded (when required for Saturday night) I put in a business case for some new plates. 48 hours later I have 12 each of small plates, large dinner plates and cereal bowls, square, in plain white porcelain.

The remains of three other sets (maybe 16 dinner plates, 19 tea plates and 20 cereal bowls) have been ruthlessly decluttered for reuse by a local charity, and the cupboard looks beeyootifully tidy.

[Yipee]

Mrs. S, very pleased with herself [Overused]
 
Posted by ChastMastr (# 716) on :
 
I washed EVERY. SINGLE. DISH. tonight.

(Yes, all of them, ALL of them, were dirty. Most of the cups too. There were about 12 cups on the coffee table that had sat there accumulating for ... a while now.)

Top terrifying thing to say to your partner while doing dishes:

"Cubby... when DID we last have peas?"

[Eek!]

And now that I have run some white vinegar through the dishwasher, I'm going to keep the dishes clean...

(By the way, it's truly amazing--in an OH MY GOD WHAT IS THAT STENCH kind of way--what happens to dirty water when it's between a few plates, creating an anaerobic environment for an indeterminate period of time but probably more than a week, and then you separate those plates. Seriously. The shock wave of smell traveled from the kitchen to the living room and Cubby was horrified when it "hit.")
 
Posted by Nenya (# 16427) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ChastMastr:
Top terrifying thing to say to your partner while doing dishes:

"Cubby... when DID we last have peas?"

[Eek!]

Reminds me of the - probably apocryphal - story of the person who commented after colonic irrigation, "But I haven't had sweetcorn for weeks."

I tried the baking soda and vinegar thing (recommended by Unf**** Your Habitat) and all it seemed to do was make the kitchen smell like a chip shop. [Roll Eyes]

However, it's my day off and I'm gearing up for some serious decluttering. I have my sights set on the cupboard in the dining room. Although the box room also needs attention - living up to its name and full of boxes. [Roll Eyes]

Nen - suffering from Don't Know Where To Start Syndrome.

[ 24. July 2014, 10:47: Message edited by: Nenya ]
 
Posted by ChastMastr (# 716) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nenya:


Nen - suffering from Don't Know Where To Start Syndrome.

So where did you start? [Smile]
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ChastMastr:
I washed EVERY. SINGLE. DISH. tonight.


Thank-you so much for this post, I've fallen into a black hole (other stuff, but always reflected by the state of my house) and I was making it worse by beating myself up for my mess. Reading about someone else's helped put it in perspective.

I have seriously considered allowing myself only one dinner plate, mug etc which would force me to find and wash them before reusing.

I use the cheapest white vinegar for cleaning and buy it in 2 litre bottles. I started doing that when I had Sam, a cat who delighted in spraying in unique and creative places. Thank goodness Geory-Porgy fat'n'fluffy is better behaved in that way, but I still miss Sam [Tear]

Corina, the human whirlwind is coming to help me clean and sort tomorrow [Yipee] .

Huia
 
Posted by Nenya (# 16427) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ChastMastr:
quote:
Originally posted by Nenya:


Nen - suffering from Don't Know Where To Start Syndrome.

So where did you start? [Smile]
The cupboard in the dining room. I didn't get very far with the decluttering but I did find the framed photographs that we moved off the mantelpiece to make way for the Christmas decorations and have hitherto been unable to find.

Nen - embarrassed about how seldom she opens some of her cupboards. [Hot and Hormonal]
 
Posted by Heavenly Anarchist (# 13313) on :
 
Yesterday and today I tidied the kitchen. I've been unwell for a month and we were drowning in mess, not helped by the fact that loading the dishwasher is dh's job and he appears to not think he needs to do it on a regular basis [Roll Eyes] but I tidied the sides and swept the floor and put all the messy stuff away. It actually looks like i could invite someone in.
My next task is to tidy up the pile of books and sewing behind my chair in the kitchen, and then attack my work shelves which are full of out of date text books and paper.
 
Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :
 
The Great Study Declutter week 3.

In my study/spare bedroom I have one small box of slides from the 1970s, one biscuit tin of negatives from the 1980s, 33 photograph albums, a dozen packets of loose photographs, a box of "big" photos (school photos etc) and half a dozen CDs of photos.

The albums take up two bookcase shelves, but are tidy and organised. The rest are clutter. Husband is suggesting that the answer is to scan the lot, and put the originals in the loft, but I don't really want to shift the clutter into the loft. Also, I'm assuming it would take hours and hours to scan in so many photos.

Has anyone else decluttered a collection of photographs?
 
Posted by Pigwidgeon (# 10192) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by North East Quine:
Has anyone else decluttered a collection of photographs?

I need to do this. When my sister died two years ago I acquired a large box of unsorted, unlabeled, disorganized photos -- old school pictures, family vacations, Dad's retirement, and people I can't identify. I've thrown away the unidentified (Dad's co-workers?), but every time I've tried to deal with the others I've had bad dreams. Everyone in those pictures is now dead except for me. That's pretty depressing. It also means I have no family to pass these on to. I really need to ask a friend to keep me company while I deal with this -- and then go out for dinner/a drink afterwards!
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Pigwidgeon:
but every time I've tried to deal with the others I've had bad dreams. Everyone in those pictures is now dead except for me. That's pretty depressing.... I really need to ask a friend to keep me company while I deal with this -- and then go out for dinner/a drink afterwards!

Put the photos in a pile or box and light a candle, maybe put an icon on the table, or cross or flowers or somesuch. Burn some incense if you like it. Make a little shrine. Say some prayers of blessing and commit their memories with love to God and pray that they rest in peace with Jesus. Sprinkle them with blessed water if you like. Having a friend round to share this ceremony and the disposal is a good idea.

Basically you need to surround the emotions that these things are giving expression to in bad dreams with prayer and the healing power of the Holy Spirit and hand them over to God.

Then just get rid of the photos, put them in the bin outside or take them to the tip. I wouldn't go through them unless you think there are ones you want to keep.

quote:
Originally posted by North East Quine:
Has anyone else decluttered a collection of photographs?

Yes, I had to go through my parents collection after our father died. They weren't in the habit of labelling them and lots were shots of scenery, under/overexposed. Many of unidentified people, mostly probably long dead.

Talked it through with sister and dumped everything that didn't have some personal meaning for one or other of us or historic significance for the family archives. This got rid of about 90%. We then had an unfortunate misunderstanding as she thought I had taken the ones I wanted and decided she didn't want any of them and dumped the lot. Never mind. I never looked at them when I had them and haven't missed them.

I now have two large suitcases full of our own, that is Mr T and my and daughter's, memories and childhoods. I have promised myself I will go through them this winter during the long dark evenings and at least winnow them out a bit.

What I noticed going through the parents stuff was that it wasn't the shots of places that seemed worth keeping, it was the ones with people.

I think with ours I will just keep representative samples, best of breed sort of thing. Or ones with a particular memory attached.

What I will do with them when sorted I have no idea. One thing at a time.
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
Missed the edit window - afterthought:

I think it is the same with photos as with things, don't hang onto anything that has a bad memory attached to it.

And North East Quine, I'm with you on the scanning and storing the originals in the loft. That is just shifting the clutter from one location to another. If it's clutter it needs to leave the house.

If it needs preserving and scanning is the way to do this then it is not clutter. But whether you need to keep the originals after scanning I don't know.
 
Posted by ecumaniac (# 376) on :
 
Digitising photos is something that you can pay people to do for you.
 
Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :
 
I decluttered two broken keyboards into the bin. Elder teenager has retrieved them from the bin as apparently they could be used for "an art project."

[brick wall] [brick wall] [brick wall]
 
Posted by daisydaisy (# 12167) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ecumaniac:
Digitising photos is something that you can pay people to do for you.

This is what I did with all my dad's slides and cine films. It was worth every penny - I then created collections for relatives containing pics or clips of them and their loved ones.

However, I've still not got around to disposing of the slides and cine films - they are in a cupboard mentally labeled "for when I am particularly ruthless".
 
Posted by ChastMastr (# 716) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by North East Quine:
I decluttered two broken keyboards into the bin. Elder teenager has retrieved them from the bin as apparently they could be used for "an art project."

Just glue some gears on it! [Smile]
 
Posted by Polly Plummer (# 13354) on :
 
Before we last moved house we decided to get rid of our old, incurably out of tune, piano. To save carrying its great weight, Mr. Plummer broke it up on the drive - it was quite exciting to see. The keys liberated from their places looked very pretty and I was sure they could be useful for something, but he took the whole lot to the dump.
 
Posted by Jane R (# 331) on :
 
I can see why you smashed up your old piano, Polly, but it seems... wrong. Like burning a book. My dad still has his old three-quarter size violin from when he was a boy. He hasn't played it for years (that one would be too small for him anyway) and it's got woodworm so it would sound terrible. But he can't bear to get rid of it.

Sentiment... the enemy of decluttering.

Wish me luck, everyone - I have lost a vital piece of paper to do with Daughter's martial arts classes. In order to find it I will have to sort out all the family papers, a job I have been putting off for months if not years.

<gulp> Here goes...
 
Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :
 
Good luck, Jane! I find it easier to sort papers when there's a reason to do so.
 
Posted by Jane R (# 331) on :
 
PHEW. Only a fraction of the papers have been sorted, but at least I found the missing martial arts document!

I am now going to have the rest of the evening off. There are limits to my devotion to decluttering.

Thanks for the good wishes, NEQ.

[ 29. July 2014, 20:20: Message edited by: Jane R ]
 
Posted by Yangtze (# 4965) on :
 
Two bags of clothes to the charity shop in as many days.

Hurrah. Lots more to go though.
 
Posted by Sir Kevin (# 3492) on :
 
Four bags to the charity shop today and I also contributed a new bed frame because it was made in China, i.e excruciatingly low quality and no better than the ten-year-old one I was going to toss out into the alley for pickup. [Angel]

Thank God the new headboard was made right here in the United States. It was quite an ordeal putting everything together and I was finally motivated to do real de-cluttering. I really worked rather hard all afternoon and I will carry on getting rid of rubbish and other worthless items. I am not looking forward to visiting a commercial shredder up the street. I have at least 98 pounds or 7 stone worth of confidential documents such as credit card offers and pharmaceutical labels for them to do! I'll look for a top-of-the-line household shredder later next month! This time I'll maintain it properly and shred six days a week after the post is delivered...

[Snore] [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Brenda Clough (# 18061) on :
 
Does your municipality or county do shredding? Mine does -- you have to bring your materials to the site, and there is a gigantic industrial shredder. All in the cause of diminishing the flow of trash to the local landfill.
 
Posted by Sir Kevin (# 3492) on :
 
I'll have to ask!
 
Posted by Nenya (# 16427) on :
 
I shall be decluttering in earnest come the autumn, Nenlet2 is moving away to further his studies and I shall need to keep busy.

To this end I am making lots of plans and reading books and websites on the subject.

Nen - expert procrastinator.
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
Nen, I've probably told you this before, but when Master S finally moved out For Good, his car boot wouldn't open, so he had to push stuff into it through the lowered back seats. Which severely limited what he wanted to take away with him!

The Then Miss S and I spent three months - yes, a quarter of a year - emptying his room so she could redecorate it and move in. That meant stripping out every stick of furniture and scrap of carpet, plus a lot of packing stuff away in the loft - and then, at a later date, bringing it all down again for him to sort through and either get rid of it, or give me a business case as to why it should go back in the loft [Help]

I hope your project with Nenlet 2's room doesn't take you as long!

Mrs. S, facing the decluttering of the corner cupboard in the kitchen [Eek!]
 
Posted by Firenze (# 619) on :
 
I had a bijou declutterette of a small kitchen cupboard. Having bought new kitchen appliance, an existing one has to go into semi retirement.

Binned stash of very ancient spices, rediscovered 3 nice pottery jugs, so all good.
 
Posted by Jenny Ann (# 3131) on :
 
I de cluttered 2 kitchen cupboards last weekend. All I discovered was that I may never need to buy cans of chopped tomatoes or kidney beans ever again.

I mean, I know they're useful but there is a limit..

J
 
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jenny Ann:
... I may never need to buy cans of chopped tomatoes or kidney beans ever again ...

Tomatoes and kidney-beans come into the same category as wire coat-hangers or supermarket carrier-bags: if you put two of them together, they'll breed.

Chilli con carne anyone? [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
I decluttered just one shelf in the fridge door this afternoon - I have promised to do another shelf tomorrow. The soy sauce was 7 years out of date which is probably too far even for me - and we never use it anyway. The jar with a tiny speck on jam left in it was developing its own ecosystem, even at that temperature.

Still it was something and better than nothing.
 
Posted by ecumaniac (# 376) on :
 
Well done!

Today I am clearing out my friend's front room so I can move all my world possessions into it next week. Thank goodness he has many sturdy STACKABLE crates!
 
Posted by Nenya (# 16427) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Firenze:
I had a bijou declutterette

I love that term! [Axe murder] I reckon if I aim for those I might start to get things done. [Big Grin]

Mrs S - Nenlet2's room is way down the priority list for my decluttering - in fact he's already done a pretty good job of it himself. Just about every other room in the house needs decluttering more than his does. [Biased]

We currently are decorating our bedroom so are sleeping in what used to be Nenlet1's bedroom, with loads of stuff piled up in the box room. Decorating takes us years. Literally. This decorating has been the plan since Nenlet1 got married over two years ago. [Roll Eyes]

Meanwhile I have my sights on a corner of the dining room. I've been eyeing it up for days and will be starting on it soon. Oh yes.

Nen - feeling the sudden urge to put the kettle on. [Biased]
 
Posted by welsh dragon (# 3249) on :
 
It is possible to declutter kidney beans and tomatoes into a Basics Bank collection quite successfully (if within date).
 
Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :
 
I have bought 20 Tesco Basic foolscap box files (£2 each) and am sorting the paperwork mountain into 20 different categories, each with its own box file. I think 20 will be enough.....
 
Posted by ChastMastr (# 716) on :
 
OMG HI WELSH DRAGON!!! [Axe murder]

After being sick I am getting the dishes done again. [Yipee]
 
Posted by welsh dragon (# 3249) on :
 
Hi ChastMastr xxxxx
 
Posted by ecumaniac (# 376) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nenya:

Nen - feeling the sudden urge to put the kettle on. [Biased]

That's decluttering in my book! I have a gigantic tea stash that really needs drinking up.
 
Posted by Jane R (# 331) on :
 
Huge decluttering on Daughter's bedroom yesterday, complicated by the discovery that her bed was broken. Hasty visit to local furniture shop just before closing to get new one revealed that the earliest they can deliver it is in three weeks' time. So she's sleeping on a mattress on the floor until then and the things that were in boxes under her bed are in the spare bedroom...

We did get rid of four bags of rubbish though, and her bedroom looks amazing. For five minutes.
 
Posted by daisydaisy (# 12167) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ecumaniac:
quote:
Originally posted by Nenya:

Nen - feeling the sudden urge to put the kettle on. [Biased]

That's decluttering in my book! I have a gigantic tea stash that really needs drinking up.
Similarly, I continue to declutter my booze stash.
 
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on :
 
Would you like some help with that? [Big Grin]
 
Posted by ecumaniac (# 376) on :
 
Decluttering party at daisydaisy's!
 
Posted by daisydaisy (# 12167) on :
 
Hic [Axe murder]
 
Posted by Jane R (# 331) on :
 
...haec hoc...

[translation for non-Latin-speaking shipmates: beginning of the declension of the Latin pronoun this/these]
 
Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :
 
I started the Great Study Declutter on 5 July and it's now the 5 Aug and I'm still not finished. One final push....

On the positive side, the new curtain pole went up yesterday, and the new curtains were hung today. I am beyond thrilled with the way the room is shaping up and don't want to lose it by letting a tidal wave of paperwork back in.
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jane R:
...haec hoc...

[translation for non-Latin-speaking shipmates: beginning of the declension of the Latin pronoun this/these]

I chose an etching from the studio of an artist in Kent, at least partly because of its title. It's of a small French town, and it's called -

'Vini vini vini'.

Mrs, S, proud possessor of real etchings [Cool]
 
Posted by ArachnidinElmet (# 17346) on :
 
Whacking great quantities of paper decluttered today. After 3 months waiting, the council have finally delivered a new lid for paper recycling bin. 2 hours later, it's full and ready for collection. Can now walk around own house without fear of disappearing under an avalanche of newspapers and junkmail. [Yipee]
 
Posted by Yangtze (# 4965) on :
 
Ooh, me too. We have small green bins (kinda the size of a large cardboard box) fr recycling rather than a wheelie bin and I have filled two of them and will fill the third tomorrow.

I also gave vast piles of old magazines away on Freegle.

Plus two more bags of clothes to charity shop.
 
Posted by ChastMastr (# 716) on :
 
Finally gathered up the new kitchen trash and put in bags, and filled up the dishwasher which is running now. Yes, it's 4:30 am here but better late than never. [Yipee]
 
Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :
 
My lovely neighbours let me put my overflow recycling into their box whilst they were on holiday.

The North East Man and the North East Daughter have been inspired by my efforts and are now decluttering, too! Which is excellent, but it does add to the feeling of general chaos.
 
Posted by ecumaniac (# 376) on :
 
With my move pretty much done, I'm not sure if it's good or bad that I only managed to declutter 2 carrier bags of clothes/shoes.

Oh, and a quarter bottle of gin.

All my worldly possessions are now piled up in the dining room of my long suffering friend. I've secretly put all my foodstuffs in his cupboards/freezer though. I don't intend on taking them with me to the new house!
 
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ecumaniac:
... and a quarter bottle of gin ...

All in one go?? [Eek!] [Overused]
 
Posted by ecumaniac (# 376) on :
 
I learned to drink gin from the best.

The Anglicans
 
Posted by moonfruit (# 15818) on :
 
It's decluttering time in my little flat! I had a conversation with my dad where he surveyed the general mess and said "I think you might need more storage". To which my reply: "Wrong solution. I don't need more storage, I need less stuff!"

My aim is to start with CDs and books. Plan for CDs is to see what's available on Spotify, then ditch. Books however will be harder. Even if they go to charity, I still get terribly sentimental. Books are somehow part of me, and getting rid of them seems...wrong. But then having books on my shelf that I haven't even opened in 5 years seems silly.

Wish me luck!
 
Posted by Curiosity killed ... (# 11770) on :
 
A carrier bag of books and another of CDs went out this morning to the second hand bookstall raising money for the church. I asked first and he was quite happy to take them. There's a box of videos
to post to the only place that recycles them, while they're accepting them and another box of cassettes.

I also managed to get rid of three carrier bags of the secretary's papers for something I did ages ago. The current secretary took them away. She's going to try and find a cupboard in one of the churches involved to store everything.

The ironing pile is, however, still looking reproachfully at me.
 
Posted by Jane R (# 331) on :
 
Went to a second-hand booksale today and came back with nine (count them, nine) books. None of them were actually for me: two for mother-in-law, one for husband, the rest were selected by Daughter who is now a confirmed book addict.

We are so doomed.
 
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on :
 
[tangent]
quote:
Originally posted by ecumaniac:
I learned to drink gin from the best.

The Anglicans

[Killing me]

Me too - specifically, the curate at Downpatrick Cathedral about 20 years ago.

I was quite shocked when the Dean came back from a conference a few years ago and said he'd only just discovered GIN.

How could he have possibly been an Anglican all his life and risen to such an office without it? [Confused]

[/tangent] - back to your de-cluttering ...
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jane R:
Went to a second-hand booksale today and came back with nine (count them, nine) books. None of them were actually for me: two for mother-in-law, one for husband, the rest were selected by Daughter who is now a confirmed book addict.

We are so doomed.

But in the nicest possible way!
 
Posted by moonfruit (# 15818) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jane R:
Went to a second-hand booksale today and came back with nine (count them, nine) books. None of them were actually for me: two for mother-in-law, one for husband, the rest were selected by Daughter who is now a confirmed book addict.

We are so doomed.

Jane R, that sounds like something I would do. The Oxfam bookshops are also dangerous places.
 
Posted by Nenya (# 16427) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by moonfruit:
The Oxfam bookshops are also dangerous places.

They are indeed. Lots of interesting books in the Oxfam shops, I often end up making a very necessary purchase. [Biased]

Nenlet2 went off to his new university town today to get settled before his course starts. I have tidied one side of the kitchen surfaces, sorted a shelf in one of the kitchen cupboards, cleaned out the fridge and have two bagfuls of things for the clothes bank tomorrow.

Nen - keeping busy. [Smile]
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nenya:

Nen - keeping busy. [Smile] [/QB]

I hope that's not an ironic smilie, Nen! Thinking of you, anyway (())

Mrs. S, eagerly awaiting a passing visit from The Former Miss S and SiL
 
Posted by ChastMastr (# 716) on :
 
Drat. The kitchen's gotten to be a mess again. [Waterworks]
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
Mine too, not helped by it being the depths of winter here and me not wanting to even get out of bed. I blame the cat.

I can't wash anything because I used up the hot water having a wonderful bubble bath, so that will have to wait until tomorrow. So in the next 20 minutes my goal is to put away the rest of the shopping ( of course the frozens are in the freezer already and the meat is in the fridge where little claws can't rip holes in the plastic). My nightmare is that said cat will learn to open the fridge and I will have to turn vegetarian [Waterworks]

Huia
 
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on :
 
I wouldn't normally rush to the defence of a cat, but it's hardly his fault that it's the middle of winter. [Big Grin]

I usually blame my unwillingness to get out of bed on my teddy-bear ... [Smile]

[ 15. August 2014, 14:51: Message edited by: piglet ]
 
Posted by Mrs Shrew (# 8635) on :
 
Tonight's task- the filing! Wish me luck!!!
 
Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :
 
Good luck!

I'm still decluttering the study. Tomorrow is the 6 week anniversary of starting it.....

The only thing that is saving my sanity is that I took "before" photos. When I get really fed up I look at them and realise how much I have done.

I've binned all sorts of stuff, including address labels for the house we left in 2003.

[ 15. August 2014, 17:57: Message edited by: North East Quine ]
 
Posted by Jane R (# 331) on :
 
Huia:
quote:
My nightmare is that said cat will learn to open the fridge...
But why would the cat bother learning to open the fridge when you are there to do it instead? [Biased]

Thanks for the good wishes, Wodders and moonfruit. My new mantra is 'books do not count as clutter'; we are going to Whitby for the day tomorrow and there is a very good second-hand bookshop there and an equally good independent bookshop. Obviously it is my civic duty to ensure that they both stay in business; after all, if I declutter everything else there will be plenty of room for more books.

Good luck with the filing, Mrs Shrew.

[ 15. August 2014, 19:11: Message edited by: Jane R ]
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jane R:
...after all, if I declutter everything else there will be plenty of room for more books...

Not quite yet but I can see a possible future conflict arising here between room for books and room for teddy bears so I am seriously considering a special set of shelving in my bedroom to accommodate the bears.
 
Posted by Mrs Shrew (# 8635) on :
 
North East Quine, it sounds like an enormous project, I am cheering you on! (also I am going to do some "just about before" photos now, as that sounds like a very good plan....)

I managed a good two hours of filing last night before dinner, and I think I am starting to make headway. All the paper is in such a mess that I am starting by sorting it into groups and will put it into chronological order at a later stage - thankfully I have my newish filing cabinet and a load of hanging suspension files which is making life much easier.


I like your theory about books Jane R! We are off to whitby tomorrow (Sunday), but I really must try to avoid additional books as our shelves are completely overflowing! When I get enough floor space, the spare room will be getting an extra bookcase.
 
Posted by Nenya (# 16427) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by The Intrepid Mrs S:
quote:
Originally posted by Nenya:

Nen - keeping busy. [Smile]

I hope that's not an ironic smilie, Nen! Thinking of you, anyway (())
It's a tad strained. [Roll Eyes] Thank you for your concern, Mrs S. [Axe murder]

I'm in the process of clearing out another kitchen cupboard and have my sights set on the aforementioned corner of the dining room.

Nen - uplifted by the kindness of Shipmates.
 
Posted by Doublethink (# 1984) on :
 
I am just begining the major you-have-been-in-this-house-for-half-decade-thereis-no-excuse-for-not-having-place-for-everything tidy up. Just put together the storage bed I purchased to assist this - immediately leaving me with the what shall I do with the disssembled old bed too battered to sell but too much decent wood to bin dilemma. I am aware that thinking I could keep the bits and make that wood into something is a snare and a delusion, or rather, some part of me is aware that ....
 
Posted by ecumaniac (# 376) on :
 
Freecycle.

Or, take it to your local council recycling depot.
 
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Welease Woderwick:
... I am seriously considering a special set of shelving in my bedroom to accommodate the bears.

We have two of those, but then we do have rather a lot of bears ... [Hot and Hormonal]
 
Posted by ChastMastr (# 716) on :
 
God, I hate taking out the trash.

Mind you, our dumpster has to be driven to, as it's at the other end of the apartment complex, so that is probably a factor.
 
Posted by Doublethink (# 1984) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ecumaniac:
Freecycle.

Or, take it to your local council recycling depot.

You are probably right, I am definitely doing a tip run anyway.

I have been surfing the web for organisational tips and finding it unusually unhelpful. There is lots of stuff about getting over procrastination or dragooning your children (I have no dragoons). But there is nothing about how to categorise your gubbins. This is my main issue, do you store your cameras with your media, or your binocculars - does your rucksack go with camping stuff or with suitcases ?

Each decision in itself is trivial, but there are many of them and its the indecision that slows me to a crawl.

What I want is some home guru to have a list that goes you have these x number of categories - use them !
 
Posted by ecumaniac (# 376) on :
 
Ask yourself, if *I* were to go looking for whatever, where would I look first?

And that's where you put it.
 
Posted by Doublethink (# 1984) on :
 
Unfortunately, for basically my whole life, the answer to that has been either a) think back to where I last remember seeing it or b) in that massive pile of stuff, covered with a throw, that I haven't sorted.

I could adapt a pre-generated list, its doing one from scratch that kills me.

I have started some general categories, but need something more comprehensive.

On amore positive note I have almost finished transferring the disassembled bed to the car for this afternoon's tip run. And bagged the clothes to take too [Smile]
 
Posted by Curiosity killed ... (# 11770) on :
 
The problem with giving you a prearranged list is that it depends on what space is available for storage. My rucksack lives with my camping and other outside sports gear in a trunk in the hall, my cases are on top of my wardrobe in my bedroom filled with out of season clothes. But I am most likely to use the rucksack to do anything and only rarely use a suitcase.

I need to arrange storage for craft stuff which is currently in a cardboard box having been emptied out of the desk they were in, it having been repurposed, and I need to find a storage solution that will work for me.
 
Posted by ecumaniac (# 376) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doublethink:
Unfortunately, for basically my whole life, the answer to that has been either a) think back to where I last remember seeing it or b) in that massive pile of stuff, covered with a throw, that I haven't sorted.

I don't think you need a lost then. In fact, I think "where I saw it last" could work perfectly fine for you.

So what if the cameras are stored on the book shelf next to the cleaning products which are next to the dvd? As long as there is *a* place where they are stored safely, then fine!

Eventually you might notice that actually, it would be more convenient for me if the cleaning products were stored in the linen cupboard instead of in the lounge by the TV, but that's a natural thing that comes out of how your house is set up and how you live in it. Not because some stranger on the internet told you so.

Make the first step to get the random piles of stuff put away, somehow, get more storage/throw stuff away etc.

It doesn't matter where things are stored as long as you can find them.
 
Posted by Lamb Chopped (# 5528) on :
 
I organized my kitchen on principles of laziness. So glasses are next to the fridge, where the milk/juice/water lives; dishes are between fridge and dishwasher, so I can put the freaking things away without having to walk. Spatula/wooden spoons/etc. are next to the stove, where I use them. Stuff that rarely gets used (e.g. baking stuff) is in the farthest, most inconvenient corner. [Biased]
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Lamb Chopped:
I organized my kitchen on principles of laziness. So glasses are next to the fridge, where the milk/juice/water lives; dishes are between fridge and dishwasher, so I can put the freaking things away without having to walk. Spatula/wooden spoons/etc. are next to the stove, where I use them. Stuff that rarely gets used (e.g. baking stuff) is in the farthest, most inconvenient corner. [Biased]

Exactly, LC! [Overused]

Mrs. S, recognising a kindred spirit
 
Posted by Doublethink (# 1984) on :
 
I have returned from the tip having got rid of a jam-packed carload of stuff. (It turns out the answer to how do you get a whole double bed frame into a tiny car is, with an axe [Big Grin] )

[ 17. August 2014, 15:32: Message edited by: Doublethink ]
 
Posted by Firenze (# 619) on :
 
One word: baskets.

At one point I bought a lot of rectangular, stackable baskets in, I think, T K Maxx. I discover two of these, side by side, exactly fitted an IKEA Billy bookcase. Result as far as jewellery-making, haberdashery and stationery goes. Log baskets = fabric, yarn. Sundry smaller baskets - the current project.

Coat hooks. Bags. Put stuff in bags, hang from hooks.
 
Posted by Doublethink (# 1984) on :
 
Nice system for a craft room [Smile]

One thing I have got is plenty of storage, it is all about getting stuff from floor to storage in a sensible system. (Previous attempts at decluttering have fallen into the trap of getting more storage, but not getting rid of any actual stuff.)

I have chucked some plastic chests of drawers, well their frames, I have kept the drawers as they are the right height to use in the ottoman bed to organise whatever I put in there.

I have eight deep shelves and a bedside cabinet left to fill in the bedroom (not including clothes storage, I have sorted them). The shelves are too deep to easily reach the back, so last abortive declutter attempt I bought decorative boxes for each shelve, and I still have these.

In the study I have waaaaaay too much old paperwork, much of which needs burning or shredding, but I do have a two drawer filling cabinet for what I need to keep. In addition to obligatory bookcase(which is full), I have an ikea shelving unit which is currently a mess, I have two decorative boxes intended to hold stationary for that.

I do think I might need to put up some shelving in the spare room though - I have no obvious place for my music books.

[ 17. August 2014, 16:19: Message edited by: Doublethink ]
 
Posted by Curiosity killed ... (# 11770) on :
 
I was wondering about looking out for something with drawers, lots of little drawers, for the craft stuff. The plan is to keep an eye out for something second-hand in the charity shops and repaint it to fit where it's going. I have a five drawer chest of drawers, square-ish, tallish, tucked into a corner between doors in the hall that stores hats and gloves in the top drawers and tools in the bottom drawers. It cost practically nothing, is pretty hideous laminate under the paint job and new handles, but is painted to match the hall.
 
Posted by ecumaniac (# 376) on :
 
Consider getting a label maker so you know what goes where. Basic ones are about 20 quid from whsmith or staples etc.
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
I only started out to refill the pepper grinder.

An hour and a half later I have decluttered not only one kitchen cupboard, ridding myself of endless small quantities of borlotti beans etc, but also the spice reserve. (Whose bright idea was it to have kitchen cupboards that stop eight inches below the ceiling, just the right height to store stuff and then forget it's there? [Mad] Which is why we have endless half-packets of herbs and spices).

Anyway, the 'active' spice drawer is all lovely and tidy and all the little jars are full again [Axe murder]

Mrs. S, standing for 'smug' this morning [Cool]
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
And you deserve to be smug.

Well done!

Huia [Smile]
 
Posted by Jane R (# 331) on :
 
CK:
quote:
I was wondering about looking out for something with drawers, lots of little drawers, for the craft stuff.
Depends how little the drawers need to be and how decorative you want them, but you might want to consider something like this. They're really for keeping screws and nails in but we got several from B&Q for our gaming miniatures - they're just the right size and can be padded with cotton wool if you're worried about your orcs (or whatever) being damaged in storage. They'd probably work for fiddly bits of crafting kit, too.
 
Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :
 
Progress. All the paperwork that still needs to be sorted is in six stacking 24 litre plastic boxes in the study.

There is no study stuff in any other part of the house. None. At all.

I'm aiming to reduce the boxes by half a box a day.
I think that's achievable.
 
Posted by Doublethink (# 1984) on :
 
Well done !
 
Posted by Doublethink (# 1984) on :
 
Talking diy storage I am cutting up the memory foam topper, that is now too small for my bed, to line the under bed storage drawers. My plan is to be able stick things in the foam the way you would in a camera bag and make sure things are unrattley [Smile]
 
Posted by ecumaniac (# 376) on :
 
Good work, DT!
 
Posted by Jemima the 9th (# 15106) on :
 
We are going to try to move house! People are coming to look round! [Help] In addition to the [Help] I really need a "running around like a headless chicken in panic" smilie.

Oh well. I'm trying to see this as a positive - that the prospect of people coming to look will help me to declutter & keep the place tidy. She says, sitting on her arse, typing away on a laptop. Hm.
 
Posted by Nenya (# 16427) on :
 
So I have made a start in the dining room - pulled everything out of the corner and emptied a shelf in the corner cupboard. It is bin day tomorrow and I was determined to have a bin liner with some stuff in it to go out. This I have achieved, but the dining room looks dreadful now - stuff on the table that I don't feel strong enough to face this evening and bagfuls of stuff in the middle of the floor. [Help]

Nen - it has to look worse before it looks better, right? [Ultra confused]
 
Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :
 
First it gets worse, then it gets a lot better, Nenya.

We still have another two weeks before our nest empties. Will I still have clutter to keep me busy after then - oh, yes!!
 
Posted by Nenya (# 16427) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by North East Quine:
Will I still have clutter to keep me busy after then - oh, yes!!

That's the reassuring thing about clutter - it can always be relied upon to stick by you. [Biased]

I have a deadline for the dining room - Nenlet1 and son-in-law are coming for tea (in our house that means the main meal of the day, eaten in the evening) on Sunday. While I am not anticipating having all the shelves and drawers sorted, I do want to have the floor cleared and to be able to use the table - currently piled high with half empty files, papers and bubble wrap. I'm seeing a table cloth, flowers, wine glasses, candles...

Nen - better get my skates on.
 
Posted by daisydaisy (# 12167) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nenya:
......I'm seeing a table cloth, flowers, wine glasses, candles...

What a lovely incentive - keep that image in your mind and it should really help.
 
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on :
 
There's nothing quite like an impending dinner-party (even if it's only your own family) to switch on the de-cluttering gene.

Good luck! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Jemima the 9th (# 15106) on :
 
It gets worse before it gets better is my mantra for most things housework related! Good luck Nenya - hope you have a great evening.
 
Posted by Ethne Alba (# 5804) on :
 
Old Study: Emptied, sorted, restocked, and the paper recycling bin is almost full

Kitchen: utensils drawer emptied, scrubbed clean, restocked.

Living room: Ikea was visited! Telly wall mounted. Audio sorted. Large books relocated. Storage boxes repositioned

Spare room: Departed Relative Belongings await family decision

Cupboard under stairs/ new porch area/ garage-to-be/ front garage are all....... [Waterworks]

Gardens both blitzed, to nil effect tbh.....

Yesterday we both forgot that it was our wedding anniversary....too busy!

[ 23. August 2014, 11:34: Message edited by: Ethne Alba ]
 
Posted by JoannaP (# 4493) on :
 
I am dipping my toe in very gently but was surprised how much I got done in two 20 minute tidying sessions yesterday. It feels possible that one day we might have worked out where things live in this new flat and so be able to put them away.
 
Posted by Ethne Alba (# 5804) on :
 
Congratulations!


[update: wall-long bookcase blitzed and nine bags of books to charity shop this afternoon]

[ 23. August 2014, 14:10: Message edited by: Ethne Alba ]
 
Posted by sophs (# 2296) on :
 
I've found my mother a major help with de cluttering! She came round and was ruthless in the baby's room, so we now have a today room ready for a baby!

She's coming over on the first September again and we're going to tackle the living room. Which isn't too bad, but still has renments of clutter from the extension, and there are a couple of glory holes that need sorting but I've just not got the spoons to do it.

Mum was really good last time in not letting me do too much, she understands pregnancy much better than chronic illness and could relate to it so was telling me to rest and making sure I was comfortable.

Interestingly she was very concerned that the mister would be cross at the work they'd done, especially when my step dad put up some shelves for us!
 
Posted by Doublethink (# 1984) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ethne Alba:
Congratulations!


[update: wall-long bookcase blitzed and nine bags of books to charity shop this afternoon]

I am impressed with your list !
 
Posted by Doublethink (# 1984) on :
 
I have discovered incinerating old bank statements is a lot more relaxing than shredding them.
 
Posted by Mrs Shrew (# 8635) on :
 
JoannaP I hope the toe dipping is helping you.

I find it important not to try to do too much otherwise it gets overwhelming and you Just. STOP. which is especially awkward if you have just emptied a box or cupboard...

For my own efforts, the filing cabinet is done, and it felt so good last time post arrived to take back statements straight up to put away (after checking them quickly)
Yesterday afternoon I rearranged some furniture in my living room. Not quite a declutter really, as the only thing that got removed was an empty whisky bottle from when I emptied and refilled the alcohol cupboard in order to move it.
Nonetheless, it looks so much smarter and I'm really happy with it. I have talked to Mr shrew about getting a little TV unit, as currently the TV lives on top of the largest nesting coffee table. It's ok but not ideal.

I know it sounds like recluttering but actually I think having better organised furniture helps me to keep the clutter under control.

This morning we are shopping for shoes and trousers for Mr shrew for work. This afternoon, I need to remove the old/worn out/non fitting ones.

I'm also hoping to do some serious tidying in the spare room as when we moved in, we opened out the extending (drop leaf) table and put boxes both on it and under it. I've been trying to clear it for a while, but only in a fairly laid back way. However we are having friends round on bank holiday Monday to play the board game we received as a wedding gift link to game

It needs all the table space in the world and more so I really do need to try to excavate the drop leaf table. Still, there's nothing like a deadline to provide motivation!!!

(Edited to fix link)

[ 24. August 2014, 08:21: Message edited by: Firenze ]
 
Posted by Doublethink (# 1984) on :
 
Second tip run completed, having this much crap to get rid off feels like a very first world problem.

Next up - more paperwork sorting - I shall clear the study !
 
Posted by Mrs Shrew (# 8635) on :
 
Well done Doublethink!

I successfully excavated the drop leaf table, and made a huge difference to the living room.
(apologies for the broken link previously. I thought I had checked it but obviously not.)
 
Posted by Doublethink (# 1984) on :
 
I am currently continuing the decluttering by watching netflix with a coffee, whilst keeping an eye on the incinerator fullo all my old university coursework [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Ethne Alba (# 5804) on :
 
So that's the feel-good factor out of the way.....
Now here's hoping we don't allow it to all build up again [Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by Doublethink (# 1984) on :
 
That's always the battle isn't it. It is a bit like dieting I think.
 
Posted by Mrs Shrew (# 8635) on :
 
Very much so
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
The holiday suitcase and bags are unpacked, almost everything is tidied away and the laundry is done.

I have even started catching up on paperwork. Got rather irritated because business people wouldn't answer the phone, and I wanted to get on with my stuff, then realised it is a Bank Holiday. [Hot and Hormonal]

Then I realised I could happily and responsibly procrastinate. [Two face]

[ 25. August 2014, 13:31: Message edited by: Thyme ]
 
Posted by Doublethink (# 1984) on :
 
Excellent !
 
Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ethne Alba:

Now here's hoping we don't allow it to all build up again [Roll Eyes]

I have been decluttering money-off vouchers which expired in 2007, guarantees for electrical items which went to the recycling depot years ago, information sheets about school trips which were forthcoming in 2006, and I've found a library book which we paid for, having given it up for lost in 1998.

I'm telling myself it would take years to build up that level of dross again.
 
Posted by Doublethink (# 1984) on :
 
*highfive*
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by North East Quine:
...I'm telling myself it would take years to build up that level of dross again.

...or, in my case, about 10 minutes!
 
Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Welease Woderwick:
quote:
Originally posted by North East Quine:
...I'm telling myself it would take years to build up that level of dross again.

...or, in my case, about 10 minutes!
That long? [Eek!]
 
Posted by ChastMastr (# 716) on :
 
I need to build up those habits that help things like trash and dishes get done regularly...
 
Posted by Nenya (# 16427) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by daisydaisy:
quote:
Originally posted by Nenya:
......I'm seeing a table cloth, flowers, wine glasses, candles...

What a lovely incentive - keep that image in your mind and it should really help.
We had a lovely evening and there was a table cloth, and wine glasses and candles. [Smile]

There was also a lot of stuff whisked upstairs into the spare room. [Biased]

However, progress is being made. The recycling bins and bags were very full when they went out this morning and the cupboards in the dining room have a couple of empty shelves. There's still so much to do [Help] but it won't get done by me sitting and moaning about it. [Roll Eyes]

I work hard to keep the sink clear - I hate coming down to last night's tea things or coming back from work to the breakfast stuff. I wash some or all of the cooking pans after I've dished up and before I sit down to eat. I rinse the crocks and cutlery and get them into the dishwasher before I sit down for coffee. We eat breakfast in the kitchen and I'm constantly up and down rinsing stuff for the dishwasher as it gets used. Dishwashers are wonderful things - they make the kitchen look as though you've washed up when you haven't. [Axe murder]

Nen - off to cook and wash up. [Biased]
 
Posted by To The Pain (# 12235) on :
 
Oh yes, Nen, dishwashers are wonderful things. I have a surveyor coming next week to tell me whether it will be feasible (mostly financially) to move about some of the walls in my kitchen. I definitely plan to include a dishwasher in my new kitchen lineup, it might take a bit of creative design if the walls stay as dog-leggy as they are now though.

Unfortunately, said surveyor will arrive upon our return from a camping holiday while the detritus from a dance festival still hasn't found its way home. I foresee a busy Monday. Especially as the heavy canvas beast of a tent isn't likely to be dry when we take it down...
 
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on :
 
TTP, if you want a dishwasher badly enough (and who wouldn't?) you can Find A Way.

We have a small one (24" rather than 30" wide), which is perfect for the two of us; you wouldn't think that 6" less width would make it so much easier to accommodate, but it does - especially if, like us, your kitchen hasn't got a specific space for it.
 
Posted by Jemima the 9th (# 15106) on :
 
Today I am going to tackle the front garden. Lord have mercy. I don't feel well either, so hopefully it'll be a distraction.

Oh bother, and I meant to add - glad you had a good evening Nenya!

[ 29. August 2014, 08:43: Message edited by: Jemima the 9th ]
 
Posted by Smudgie (# 2716) on :
 
A fortnight home alone, relaxed and unpressured, and I am rather pleased with my achievements so far. Hopefully I can maintain the momentum once the boy gets home tonight and school starts next week.
I've used the cheating method of renting storage, but so far it's working. I'm sticking the clutter in there until the flat is how I want it (you'd still describe it as cluttered, but I quite like clutter as long as you can move safely from room to room - I'd never survive as a minimalist!) and then rehoming/binning the storage stuff at my leisure. Several loads of rubbish has gone already and there are a couple of bags waiting to go to the charity shop. I think now 80% of the clothing in the house is stuff we actually wear.
The kitchen and bathroom cupboards have been decluttered - plastic boxes now all have lids, apart from the ones I use for feeding the cat, and those bottles of unidentifiable, must-be-vintage-by-now bath stuff that I was keeping for a rainy day have gone to the big bubble bath in the sky.

Next job - paperwork. Where did I put the shredder ? (Hope I didn't declutter it!)
 
Posted by Surfing Madness (# 11087) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Smudgie:

I've used the cheating method of renting storage, but so far it's working.

I have a friend who use to refer to it as "off-shore storage." Like money in an off-shore bank account doesn't count (for tax purposes), so things in off-shore storage don't count for clutter etc purposes.
 
Posted by Jemima the 9th (# 15106) on :
 
That sounds like great progress Smudgie. The under-the-sink cupboard is on my list of things to tackle....

Front garden looking better. More to be done, though.
 
Posted by Doublethink (# 1984) on :
 
Put up picture rail. Sanded and painted chest of drawers (for shoes in hall). Covered in paint but mild sense of achievement noted [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Nenya (# 16427) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jemima the 9th:
That sounds like great progress Smudgie. The under-the-sink cupboard is on my list of things to tackle....

Oo, oo, I did that one yesterday. [Big Grin] Amazing how many sprays of all-purpose cleaner I had... [Eek!]

I'm currently decluttering the bathroom cabinet. Used toothbrushes, anyone?

I hope in time to have an organised routine, with a weekly focus area. At present it's more a case of "OMG, it's a mess in there as well, better get to it."

Nen - who does not want to talk about the spare room.
 
Posted by Doublethink (# 1984) on :
 
Had visitors - notable comment "oooh, you didn't used to be able to sit on that sofa" [Smile]

I am on the last furlong of sorting the storage bed.

[ 31. August 2014, 13:32: Message edited by: Doublethink ]
 
Posted by Doublethink (# 1984) on :
 
Found home inventory apps [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
I have decluttered two volumes of 'Mastering the Art of French Cooking'. They have survived several purges but now they are going. I feel sad about it even though I haven't actually consulted them for several decades.

Also a couple of items of clothing. I bought some new clothes yesterday and so some that I have never or rarely worn had to go.

I am looking at a shelf of poetry books. I rarely read poetry now and if I do want to read it I can usually find it online. I cannot remember when I last opened any of them. When I feel strong enough I will tackle them. I could probably get rid of some more 'God' books as well.

As for under the sink: I have two small cupboards that qualify for this description. One under the actual sink and one in the utility room.

When I moved in these were carefully organised. Now the one in the utility room is a mess. I really don't know how this happens. We have been here less than six months!

Monday was supposed to be the start of an Autumn renewed effort in cleaning, organising and decluttering. But a friend suggested that would be a good day to reschedule a day out we had to postpone earlier in the year, and there may be another get together as well during the week. So I can feel the energy and impetus for this housework draining away.

I came across a new to me housework/decluttering blog the other day. It is the Flylady principles repackaged to suit her own temperament. She is one of those who couldn't get on with Flylady, but she has come up with her own version.

a slob comes clean You'll either love her or hate her! I'm not sure which category I fall into but have been rather compulsively reading her blog and watching her videos.
 
Posted by Nenya (# 16427) on :
 
I'm starting on another declutter of the books. Most of ours are currently stacked up in the box room, and as we don't plan to replace the shelves in our bedroom where these books have lived hitherto it's going to be a challenge to find them a new home; helpful, therefore, if there are fewer of them. I sometimes end up sleeping in the box room and I've lain there gazing on these books and thinking, "I don't think I've opened that one since I was at university..."

I've had a break from the decluttering for a couple of days as Nenlet2 has been home and we've been doing family things. Back to it tomorrow.

I did give A Slob Comes Clean a bit of a go but just found it irritating... [Hot and Hormonal]

Nen - off to empty the dishwasher.
 
Posted by Doublethink (# 1984) on :
 
When I get to the end of the greater declutter, I need to order the books and scan them onto Librarything.
 
Posted by Pigwidgeon (# 10192) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doublethink:
When I get to the end of the greater declutter, I need to order the books and scan them onto Librarything.

Does anyone know of software for organizing and cataloguing music CDs? Unlike books, which are usually fairly basic (author, title, publishing info) CDs often have more than one composer per CD. If it's a CD of Bach's music, that's easy to alphabetize. But what if it's Baroque Trumpet Concertos by several composers? Also, some CDs feature the artist rather than the composer (let's say, Maurice André plays trumpet concertos). There has to be some way of organizing all of these. Any ideas?
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
This blog post is about organising sewing patterns, but the suggested apps could be adapted for music CD's I think. Also, there are tons of other suggestions for apps in the comments.

here

I decided to use Evernote for my sewing patterns, and when they are done I am going to use it for my CD's and books.

With the apps and Evernote you can put tags into the entry so all the different variables can be covered and easily found.

[ 31. August 2014, 19:44: Message edited by: Thyme ]
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
Sorry, I should have said, I think you search for database apps, if you don't want to read the post and comments.
 
Posted by Doublethink (# 1984) on :
 
This might work, I've not tried it myself but I like the idea. You put the CD into the computer, and it pulls all the information from the internet.
 
Posted by Pigwidgeon (# 10192) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Thyme:
Sorry, I should have said, I think you search for database apps, if you don't want to read the post and comments.

Thanks -- but I don't have a smartphone, so it has to work on my desktop. (I have searched for database software, but didn't have much luck.)
 
Posted by Pigwidgeon (# 10192) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doublethink:
This might work, I've not tried it myself but I like the idea. You put the CD into the computer, and it pulls all the information from the internet.

I actually have that one bookmarked -- but I need to get an external CD drive for my computer. For some reason TPTB have decided that computers don't need CD drives anymore. That program did look promising, however.
 
Posted by ChastMastr (# 716) on :
 
I got a lot in my bedroom done: All trash out and desk cleaned!
 
Posted by daisydaisy (# 12167) on :
 
Decluttering flummoxed me. I looked in the obvious places for my knitting needles last seen at a recent major declutter, and only after I bought some new-to-me ones (ridiculously cheap for bamboo) did I notice the cabinet inherited from my mother which was where she used to keep hers. I must have inherited the where-to-put-things from her too.
 
Posted by Pigwidgeon (# 10192) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by daisydaisy:
Decluttering flummoxed me. I looked in the obvious places for my knitting needles last seen at a recent major declutter, and only after I bought some new-to-me ones (ridiculously cheap for bamboo) did I notice the cabinet inherited from my mother which was where she used to keep hers. I must have inherited the where-to-put-things from her too.

Buying replacements is always the best way to find something that's missing.
 
Posted by Doublethink (# 1984) on :
 
Having tidied up, I couldn't find my shoes this morning - typical [Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by infinite_monkey (# 11333) on :
 
(Enters, waves at all, introduces self as fellow declutterer.)

Three bags of clutter just left my house.

Three bags of containers and other organizational tools just entered my house.

I am not entirely sure that I am doing this correctly.
 
Posted by Jane R (# 331) on :
 
If it's properly organised and you need it, it doesn't count as clutter... or so I keep telling myself.
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
I have bought two shelves to put in my bedroom, they are currently cluttering the bedroom floor until I get around to it!

The requires getting out both the drill and the vacuum cleaner - not difficult at all but each takes far longer than the drilling will require so...
 
Posted by Baptist Trainfan (# 15128) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Pigwidgeon:
Buying replacements is always the best way to find something that's missing.

Especially when you've put the thing you've lost "in a safe place".
 
Posted by Jane R (# 331) on :
 
Hah, I can beat you on points, Wodders - we currently have my daughter's new bed (still in bits) spread over the living-room floor, although once we have finished putting it together and rearranged her room things should improve.
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
I've got a small bag of stuff ready for the charity shop.

Put some things on Freecycle if they are not taken up very quickly they will go to the tip.

Asked Mr T to take something to the tip.

Still working up to another major book declutter. I've just noticed I've got two copies of 'Diary of a Country Parson' by James Woodforde. No idea how that happened or why I haven't noticed before.

I have just remembered I still have to get rid of all Dad's paperwork. It's out of sight and therefore out of mind.

I'm finding that as I go on, more and more things that escaped previous clearances are presenting themselves as ready to leave. Now though they are the smaller things.
 
Posted by Nenya (# 16427) on :
 
There's a box in the dining room for books which are to be decluttered. There are five books in it.

Nen - it's a start I suppose...
 
Posted by Doublethink (# 1984) on :
 
I have somewhat lost my decluttering oomph [Frown]

I fear it may now stall for another year [brick wall]
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
Doublethink can you give yourself a short holiday - because of what you have already achieved [Overused] a make a date when you will start back? I often use important dates (family birthdays, public holidays) to remind me that I will start the day after.

Huia
 
Posted by Doublethink (# 1984) on :
 
Parents are planning to visit in a couple of weeks - I would really like to have it done by then but I can feel myself starting to slip - I feel like if I stop I'll never restart [Frown]
 
Posted by Surfing Madness (# 11087) on :
 
My flatmates are currently decluttering the kitchen, while I sit on the floor. This is my level of decluttering! [Snigger]
 
Posted by Jemima the 9th (# 15106) on :
 
Excellent!

I have tackled the under-the-sink cupboard. Disappointing lack of stuff thrown out. Mind you - 3 bottles of ceramic hob cleaner? A little extravagant I think.

All the best with the future bit, DoubleThink - could you have a really small bit scheduled for a couple of weeks' time, so at least you feel like you have a plan? When I have a big list of things to do, I always include a couple of things I've already done, so I can tick them off and feel righteous...
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jemima the 9th:
...When I have a big list of things to do, I always include a couple of things I've already done, so I can tick them off and feel righteous...

What a fabulous idea!

Thanks.
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Welease Woderwick:
quote:
Originally posted by Jemima the 9th:
...When I have a big list of things to do, I always include a couple of things I've already done, so I can tick them off and feel righteous...

What a fabulous idea!

Thanks.

I once employed someone because she did that - I'm sorry to relate that it was a Really Bad Idea! (employing her, not the to-do list thing, which I do myself! [Hot and Hormonal] )

Mrs. S, still wincing at that particular memory
 
Posted by Jane R (# 331) on :
 
I prefer to include a couple of jobs that will only take five minutes. Then I can do those first and tick them off and feel self-righteous - without cheating.

It would probably be just as quick to do them without writing them down on the list, of course.

However, the good news is that Daughter's new bed is now assembled and the boxes that live underneath it have been put back where they belong. They've been languishing in the spare room for about a month because the shop couldn't deliver the bed immediately (she broke the old one). So we haven't really decluttered anything, but the house looks considerably tidier!
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jane R:
I prefer to include a couple of jobs that will only take five minutes. Then I can do those first and tick them off and feel self-righteous - without cheating.

Good grief, why call it cheating? It's a Technique devised to help those of us who are 'organisationally-challenged' to feel more in control of our lives - which makes it a Therapy. Probably ought to be available on the NHS ... [Devil]

And you only have to read Wodders' posts to know that just because something will only take five minutes, it doesn't mean that it will actually get done. Ever!

Mrs. S, ready to accept whatever help is going

[Two face]
 
Posted by Jemima the 9th (# 15106) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Welease Woderwick:
quote:
Originally posted by Jemima the 9th:
...When I have a big list of things to do, I always include a couple of things I've already done, so I can tick them off and feel righteous...

What a fabulous idea!

Thanks.

My pleasure. How does the expression go? "If you can't be a good example, at least be a terrible warning". [Big Grin]

In a last-minute-find-the-plimsolls exercise, I ended up decluttering the shoes under the stairs. Plimsolls weren't there, obviously, though I found them later. Also chucked out 1 pair of thoroughly worn out shoes, and have a nice little pile of too-small tap shoes to go to the dance teacher next week.

Also, not quite decluttering but - I made 3 phone calls I was hiding from - to the school office, the dentist and the hairdresser. So they're ticked off the mental list. (Darn it, I should now write one and tick them off!)
 
Posted by Jane R (# 331) on :
 
The Intrepid Mrs S:
quote:
Good grief, why call it cheating? It's a Technique devised to help those of us who are 'organisationally-challenged' to feel more in control of our lives... just because something will only take five minutes, it doesn't mean that it will actually get done. Ever!
That's true (that's why our bathroom sink only gets cleaned when we have visitors). Only it feels like cheating to me...

I should phone the hairdresser as well, but if I get my fringe cut short enough so I can see out I will just notice all the other stuff that needs to be decluttered! [Help]
 
Posted by Nenya (# 16427) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jemima the 9th:
I have tackled the under-the-sink cupboard. Disappointing lack of stuff thrown out. Mind you - 3 bottles of ceramic hob cleaner? A little extravagant I think.

I found exactly the same when I did mine. The stuff we keep under our sinks is very useful stuff and really will get used in time - as long as we don't keep adding more of the same to the supplies. [Biased]

I've had a very productive day and have done everything on my "To Do" list. I love lists and do the thing of writing things on them I've already done, for the satisfaction of it. However, the other day I found I'd written "Make tomorrow's to do list" so I'm starting to wonder whether things are going a bit far. [Eek!]

Well done, assembled declutterers! [Big Grin]

Nen - still only five books in the recycling box, but on a roll generally. [Yipee]
 
Posted by daisydaisy (# 12167) on :
 
I'm the same with toiletries - I seem to buy my favourites whenever they are on offer, and again when I run out. I really must rememembr to check first - if only I could remember where I stash these things!!
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
Yesterday I finally got Mr. S to go through his wardrobe, by which I mean one double and one single wardrobe, and seven drawers. Even so I forgot he had two under-the-bed drawers full of Stuff, plus another in one of the spare rooms! [Ultra confused]

But the upshot was, two blue IKEA bags out the door this morning on their way to the Clothes Bank, plus a dustbin half full of clothes hangers, and old clothes that were just too far gone for anything! (yes, I know the clothes could have gone for rags, but I wanted them all out asap. [Yipee] )

It did worry me a bit that the joy I felt was tempered with almost a physical pain as he refolded all his shirts The Wrong Way! He folds his with the sleeves inside - OK, for a long-sleeved shirt it makes no odds, but for a short-sleeved shirt it puts an extra crease in the sleeves and makes the whole package more bulky. Still, forty years of marriage teaches you what is entirely non-negotiable - doesn't it? He's out all day today so I may have to sneak in and refold them all [Devil]

Mrs. S, sitting on her hands
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
I have enough toothpaste for the rest of my life I think.

I kept buying more (in bulk as they were on offer) so I had a new tube each time we went on holiday. Then with all the moving I couldn't remember where I had put them and had to buy more when the next holiday arrived.

Definitely going to declutter most of the poetry. Discovered that Mr T has a collected works of Shakespeare and it is all available online.

Decluttered a quantity of family papers. Tried not to look at too many except for the purpose of setting aside important financial info that has to be kept. Filled a bin bag and recycling box with 10 years worth of generally difficult memories.

It hasn't made much visual impact but I feel better for knowing it isn't there anymore and hanging over me.
 
Posted by daisydaisy (# 12167) on :
 
Family papers are so difficult to declutter. I have some going back to 17 years ago when I should have done something about them. I just push them further back into the wardrobe, and add to them occasionally.

I have just put 60 [Ultra confused] clothes hangers onto freecycle - if they don't get taken this weekend then they'll be binned. They were on top of the aforementioned wardrobe and so not in the way or anything.... just wondering what else is hiding like that.
 
Posted by Polly Plummer (# 13354) on :
 
Being quite a bit shorter than Mr. Plummer I often miss seeing clutter on top of wardrobes etc., which annoys him.

On the other hand, I spend quite a bit of time looking for things that turn out to be on top of cupboards. He can see them, but doesn't think to mention it, and I can't.
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
What is it with books?

If they have to go in the bin, even the recycling bin, it feels like having an animal put down. [Frown]
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
I ordered two more, secondhand, by post from UK last night - with the P&P they cost about as much as new ones!
 
Posted by Ferijen (# 4719) on :
 
I de cluttered my fridge door today. That is, removed the various money off vouchers, thank you cards, birth announcements, invitations, godson photos, appointment letters, recipes, and other Random Stuff, cleaned the door. And then out about half of it back on again, but at least it's tidier.

Luckily I realised that I'd included a £20 note in the pile of recycling papers in time to hunt through the bin...
 
Posted by Doublethink (# 1984) on :
 
Trying to sort my CDs I type, (and watch New Tricks).
 
Posted by daisydaisy (# 12167) on :
 
I've been re-organising my CDs - slowly getting them onto iPlayer and working out how to categorise them in my CD tower - there is so much overlap between categories.
Once I've got the CDs sorted I'd like to add my tapes to iPlayer too - I have a gizmo to digitise them.
With these all stored digitally I wonder how much I'll use the hard copy, so that will one day be a brave declutter.
 
Posted by daisydaisy (# 12167) on :
 
Of course, I meant iTunes not iPlayer [Hot and Hormonal]
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
Daisydaisy, Mr. S bought a Cocktail Audio and loaded all our (~ 1000) CDs on to it. It took him 5 weeks, working almost full-time, to load all the details and cleanse the data. Then he backed it all up on to an external hard drive.

THEN he wrapped all the CDs in cling film, a batch of 10 or so at a time so they fitted into the CD racks; and humped all the racks into the attic, and put all the wrapped bundles of CDs into them. Thus neatly filling the attic we'd so lovingly cleared the year before [Confused]

Still, it gets them out of the sitting room, I suppose [Yipee]

Visited my mother the Dowager on Sunday, and she made a start on decluttering by giving me a Dartington salad bowl she said she'd never use (on the principle of one in, one out I compensated by getting rid of a cut-glass rose bowl I'd been given as a leaving present about a quarter of a century ago [Projectile] )

I also got her to agree to throw out an enormous bunch of dried and artificial flowers, over 6 foot tall - sadly in trying to lug this downstairs I stumbled and only saved myself at the cost of a few bruises from the terracotta pot they were in [Help]

Mrs. S reflecting that it's a start, anyway [Ultra confused]
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
daisydaisy - what are you using to convert your tapes so you can store them on i-tunes?
 
Posted by Nenya (# 16427) on :
 
There are a few more books in the box for decluttering now. [Smile]

I'm using Flylady's suggested weekly zones so that when I feel I don't know where to start she has already told me. [Biased] This week it's the kitchen. I've decluttered my cupboard of spices and sauces, having smugly thought I didn't have anything out of date in there "It's not that long since I last sorted it..." I realised I was wrong on more than one account. [Hot and Hormonal]

Nen - to whom it is news that there's A Right Way To Fold A Shirt. [Eek!]
 
Posted by ChastMastr (# 716) on :
 
I took out two bags of trash today!

I am hoping that if I take out two bags of trash every day when I get home from work then not only will the ones left in the kitchen (3 now down from 5) be gone in a day or two, but then every day I can empty wastebaskets into a trash bag and take them out with the kitchen trash.

This may waste some plastic bags but honestly I think it is a major step above having literally overflowing wastebaskets, paper trash and such on the coffee table, etc.

(Am I the only one who sees a filled kitchen trash can, sees there is no room in it for anything, and then, er, just leaves stuff on the counter which then starts accumulating?)

Since the dumpster is at the other end of the apartment complex (I literally have to drive to it), but is next to the mailbox, I can get the mail at the same time (and hopefully start throwing away the vast amounts of paper (ads, ads, and more ads) that comes in the mailbox too).
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nenya:
Nen - to whom it is news that there's A Right Way To Fold A Shirt. [Eek!]

I know, I know, Nen - I appreciate how sad that is, but ... we were watching Only Connect (recorded) last night, and one of the guys had his shirt collar in such a mess that I could hardly concentrate on the answers [Confused]

But this - All Saints - is the only place I would ever admit that there are two ways to fold a shirt, my way and the Wrong Way; and when Mr. S was doing the ironing, I just used to refold my shirts while he wasn't looking - I don't grumble about it IRL!

The Compulsive Mrs S [Ultra confused]
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by The Intrepid Mrs S:
there are two ways (snip), my way and the Wrong Way;

[Killing me] [Overused]

Very tempted to make it my sig.
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Thyme:
quote:
Originally posted by The Intrepid Mrs S:
there are two ways (snip), my way and the Wrong Way;

[Killing me] [Overused]

Very tempted to make it my sig.

Be my guest!

The Flattered Mrs. S [Angel]
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
About a month or so ago I decluttered lots of old filing and I have now reluctantly come to the conclusion that the resultant pile of decluttered papers on the floor here will not move downstairs on their own - I think I am actually going to have to move them myself.

[Disappointed]
 
Posted by Baptist Trainfan (# 15128) on :
 
You could buy a powerful fan to waft them ...
 
Posted by Jane R (# 331) on :
 
Nen:
quote:
...to whom it is news that there's A Right Way To Fold A Shirt.
You fold your shirts?! We always hang ours up.

Of course, that could be because we've never bothered to learn how to fold them...

I ought to persuade Other Half to declutter his wardrobe. There are shirts in there that are falling to bits and haven't fitted him for years; it's stuffed so full that the things he does want to wear are crammed up against the junk and get creased anyway. But I'm not sure I have the energy. Perhaps I should lead by example and declutter all the things I never wear from my wardrobe.
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
Paper clutter from floor now in large, used, plastic paint bucket together with other papers for destruction that have been lying on the massage table in the other room for, erm, a day or two. Bucket now downstairs with request to Himself that the contents should be burned next time he plans a conflagration.

[Cool]
 
Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on :
 
Did you find your passport??
 
Posted by Ethne Alba (# 5804) on :
 
Finally lost the battle with our table....it'll take half a day now
[Frown]
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
My passport was in its proper place - or at least somewhere where I knew where it was.
 
Posted by Pigwidgeon (# 10192) on :
 
I dropped off a bunch of books for the Friends of the Library book sale today -- mostly fiction which I'll never re-read. If I do get a desire to read any of them, I can always borrow them -- from the Library!

I also sent off some greeting card fronts, unused cards, etc. to a church that makes them into scrapbooks for nursing homes.
 
Posted by Doublethink (# 1984) on :
 
Re-sorted my cds and cleaned those that needed it with vodka.
 
Posted by daisydaisy (# 12167) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Thyme:
daisydaisy - what are you using to convert your tapes so you can store them on i-tunes?

Finally found it! I used Digitope to transfer tapes onto digital.
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jane R:
Nen:
quote:
...to whom it is news that there's A Right Way To Fold A Shirt.
You fold your shirts?! We always hang ours up.

Of course, that could be because we've never bothered to learn how to fold them...

What, even the T-shirts and polo shirts? We haven't enough hanging space even for formal shirts [Roll Eyes]

The whole point of the wrong/right way to fold shirts is only that I think my way minimises creasing, whereas Mr. S folds his with what Dorothy L. Sayers referred to as 'a maddening perversity of wrongness', i.e. seeming to be encouraging creasing, exactly where it will show most [Mad] And he isn't doing it badly to get me to do it for him - I just don't understand [Confused]

Mrs. S, whose role it is always to wrap the parcels [Smile]
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by daisydaisy:
quote:
Originally posted by Thyme:
daisydaisy - what are you using to convert your tapes so you can store them on i-tunes?

Finally found it! I used Digitope to transfer tapes onto digital.
Thank you!
 
Posted by Heavenly Anarchist (# 13313) on :
 
I decided today to declutter my work cupboard before my students start (I work from home for the Open University). I threw out several previous incarnations and revisions of the courses I teach, the endless mound of updated DVDs and unnecessary admin. I still have a pile of papers but plan on a campaign of sorting those and putting as much as I can on the computer. It was not only very liberating but also very necessary, as the course books look identical after they are re-written and it is rather disconcerting to find your reference on a different page to your students'. I now only have the recent mailings. I also now have a huge space ready for my own studies as I start a MEd in a few weeks.
I might start on the cupboard below now...
 
Posted by Jane R (# 331) on :
 
Intrepid Mrs S:
quote:
What, even the T-shirts and polo shirts?
Oh right... I thought you meant just formal shirts. I don't think of T-shirts as shirts, and I don't HAVE any polo shirts. You are overestimating my sartorial elegance [Biased]

I have the same problem with Mr R, but I usually just avert my eyes when he does it to his clothes and have trained him not to fold mine at all - he hangs them over the back of a chair and then I put them away myself.

Of course, he hangs them in completely the wrong order because he usually does blouses and shirts first and then puts the trousers and jeans on top of them. [Roll Eyes] But you can't have everything...

[ 12. September 2014, 15:35: Message edited by: Jane R ]
 
Posted by Doublethink (# 1984) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by daisydaisy:
quote:
Originally posted by Thyme:
daisydaisy - what are you using to convert your tapes so you can store them on i-tunes?

Finally found it! I used Digitope to transfer tapes onto digital.
Oooh tempting.

After lunch I am am going to catalog my books onto Librarything with CueCat and my netbook, (that I can now charge - after a year ! - because I found the cable after the great tidy up).

Cds are stored neatly, but I have ducked the long term organisational decisions for the moment.

[ 13. September 2014, 12:13: Message edited by: Doublethink ]
 
Posted by Mrs Shrew (# 8635) on :
 
It took most of today, but I have done out the under stairs cupboard!
This is where shoes, coats, recipe books, cds and dvds live at Chez Shrew. Also four camping chairs which we need easy access to for when we have lots of guests (we have regular boardgames evenings so that is quite frequently).

There was not much culling of dvds or cds, but they are now beautifully sorted so culling will be easier. I made up for it by being ruthless with the shoes though.

Love the look of 'library thing' . I may investigate it when I get to sorting the books.
 
Posted by Doublethink (# 1984) on :
 
Well done [Smile]

I am about half done with the cataloging So that is about 350 books in 4 hours, using a barcode scanner for most, manually entered isbn for a few, and title search for some older volumes - plus the taking on and off shelf. So as you can see, the add process is quite efficient.
 
Posted by Lamb Chopped (# 5528) on :
 
What is cataloging for? I'm wondering if i should do it.
 
Posted by Mrs Shrew (# 8635) on :
 
In my case, it would be for knowing what books I have when the shelves are double stacked.
My mum also did it for her house insurance as having a full list of books in advance would apparently be useful in case of fire or the like
 
Posted by Doublethink (# 1984) on :
 
I am complete, it appears I have 742 books, which is slightly less than I expected - but then I have repeatedly got rid of crates full over the years.

I have not yet included ebooks or audio books.

Why, you ask ? Well with a view to getting rid of duplicates and anything I am clearly never going to read, plan out the categories in my bookcases - ensure I don't buy anything I already own (I have done that in the past).

[ETA also to work out if the reason I can't find a given book is disorganization or because I lent it to someone who hasn't returned it ...]

Also, librarything then generates reading recommendations on the basis of a detailed look at what sort of books you enjoy. There are also discussion forums etc that I am thinking of getting involved in.

[ 13. September 2014, 22:18: Message edited by: Doublethink ]
 
Posted by ChastMastr (# 716) on :
 
The kitchen is gross again. So is the living room. Dirty laundry on the bedroom floor.

[Waterworks] [Help]
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ChastMastr:
The kitchen is gross again. So is the living room. Dirty laundry on the bedroom floor.


That's the problem with housework - you do it, then 6 months later you have to do it again [Biased]

As for the laundry - today as part of his Reflection the Minister at church introduced people to the idea of a floordrobe - I find it a very useful concept.

Huia

[ 14. September 2014, 07:33: Message edited by: Huia ]
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Lamb Chopped:
What is cataloging for? I'm wondering if i should do it.

I am going to do it for my CD's, sewing patterns and books because I am prone to buying multiple copies because I forget what I have got [Hot and Hormonal]
 
Posted by Doublethink (# 1984) on :
 
Have worked out how to convert my vhs to dvd, and tapes to mp3, with existing equipment. Tis going to take me forever though.

Using audacity freeware for the audio - which I would recommend to the world.

[ 14. September 2014, 17:02: Message edited by: Doublethink ]
 
Posted by Heavenly Anarchist (# 13313) on :
 
Attacked the kitchen again, tidying all the admin away and clearing the table, sorting the drinks cupboard (and asking liqueur with some surplus) and sorting out the many piles of books/sewing/fabric that congregate around my area. It's almost respectable enough for visitors.
 
Posted by Doublethink (# 1984) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doublethink:
Have worked out how to convert my vhs to dvd, and tapes to mp3, with existing equipment. Tis going to take me forever though.

Using audacity freeware for the audio - which I would recommend to the world.

Well, I thought I had worked it out, vhs to dvd is going but audio is still defeating me. I take back my audacity recommendation.
 
Posted by ChastMastr (# 716) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Huia:
As for the laundry - today as part of his Reflection the Minister at church introduced people to the idea of a floordrobe - I find it a very useful concept.

[Overused] I encountered that word at unfuckyourhabitat and it describes my habits. Also need to work on that (he said ruefully, looking at the pile behind him).

I did get some dishes done and all trash in the kitchen put into bags.

More to do though.

The fruit flies are DRIVING ME INSANE NOW.

Though UFYH says this:

quote:
OK, so every damn thing you find on the Internet will have you building some kind of contraption involving several of the following: wine, dish detergent, vinegar, plastic wrap, sugar, water, and a bowl or glass of some kind. None of these have ever worked for me. They may trap a few flies, but if there’s one thing that fruit flies are, it’s prolific. ...

First things first: you need to find where they’re living and eating (and breeding). This is almost always going to be some kind of food source. ... Keep in mind that they can live off of food crud that lives on your dirty dishes. ...

Once you’ve found their home and disposed of it outside of your house, you need to clean ... wipe down every possible surface to make sure there’s nothing for them to live or feed on. ... make sure there’s nowhere for them to make a new home base. It may take a day or two for their numbers to noticeably dwindle.

We've had them before and this has worked as well. I don't know if they just decide to fly to greener pastures but cleaning things up and keeping them that way makes them go away, so my mission is clear. (Ties hachimaki around forehead.)
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
I've moved on to decluttering my church. I know (none better) that the church is a working building, not a picture postcard, but ours has begun to resemble a jumble sale [Mad]

So the vicar has started announcing at services that anyone who wants to claim one of the 15 or so umbrellas, or a food dish, or a lost cardigan, had just better get to it before I do! [Devil]

Mrs. S, about to phone for a skip [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Doublethink (# 1984) on :
 
Ok, do I spend my life reformatting from tape to mp3 - or - do I join spotify ? Are online streaming services good enough to replace your music collection ?
 
Posted by daisydaisy (# 12167) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by The Intrepid Mrs S:
I've moved on to decluttering my church. I know (none better) that the church is a working building, not a picture postcard, but ours has begun to resemble a jumble sale [Mad]

So the vicar has started announcing at services that anyone who wants to claim one of the 15 or so umbrellas, or a food dish, or a lost cardigan, had just better get to it before I do! [Devil]

Mrs. S, about to phone for a skip [Big Grin]

Isn't that what Christmas Fairs are for?
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by The Intrepid Mrs S:
So the vicar has started announcing at services that anyone who wants to claim one of the 15 or so umbrellas, or a food dish, or a lost cardigan, had just better get to it before I do! [Devil]

Mrs. S, about to phone for a skip [Big Grin]

Rest assured that either:

Just as the stuff is about to leave the premises it will somehow not happen, the PCC will suddenly decide it has to be postponed for further consultation.

Or

Immediately after it has been disposed of there will be a torrent of complaints that Granny Smith's priceless salad bowl or handknit cashmere cardigan has been taken without consent etc.

I do admire your gumption attempting this - do keep us informed on progress. [Two face]
 
Posted by ChastMastr (# 716) on :
 
The bags of trash (which had sat, un-taken-out, for a few days) appear to have been the culprits as the main source for the fruit flies.

Which are now homeless, though I am sure most of them left with the bags.

AND ARE NOW DRIVING ME INSANE AGAIN AND I FEEL LIKE KING KONG SWATTING BIPLANES. rrrrRARRARARARAAAGGAGAGAHHHhhhh!! [brick wall]

I have, dutifully, at the behest of a friend, despite the info above from UFYH, put a jar of water with honey mixed in and plastic wrap over the top with a hole in the middle in hopes that ... er, somehow it will do something, and by morning it will be filled with drowned fruit flies. Or something like that.
 
Posted by Lamb Chopped (# 5528) on :
 
Add a little wine. It actually works. [Devil]
 
Posted by infinite_monkey (# 11333) on :
 
If you have a vacuum with a hose nozzle, the sluggish ones can simply be vacuumed right out of the air. Soooo satisfying. You'll feel like a wizard.
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
I have just uncovered the plastic storage box with the remains of my mother's dolls teaset. It has scotty dogs printed on it and I was allowed to play with it if I was very careful. The teapot in the shape of a dog with his front paws forming the spout, was broken when it fell off the bookcase that fell over in the February 2011 earthquake. (I felt so guilty as I had promised to look after it when I was a child [Waterworks] )

It's just occurred to me that the school where I volunteer has a fair coming up next Wednesday, and the tiny cups and saucers would probably sell. In fact I'm going to do a quick check around to see what else may appeal to the children and their parents [Smile] .

Huia
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
Huia, that's a very bold decision, as Sir Humphrey Appleby would say in 'Yes, Minister', and |I really admire you for it.

Daisydaisy and Thyme - yes, I know, eeek! But it really needs doing. When Miss S got married nearly a year ago, we removed two enormous boxes of assorted Stuff from the back of the church. No-one noticed. Six months later I quietly dumped the lot [Devil]

(The vicar is all in favour and no-one asked the PCC!)

Mrs. S, feeling ruthless - if Granny hasn't missed her cashmere cardi by now she has too many of them [Two face]
 
Posted by mark_in_manchester (# 15978) on :
 
Mrs S - that's the way to do it. After more than 20 years looking after various communal lab facilities (and being constantly amazed at how a sizeable minority are oblivious to the shite they create for everyone else...the larger the ego, the greater the shite...) that's my approach - be ruthless and go with your own gut feeling. Never ask a committee, and if you have a secret 'limbo' in which you can put stuff for a few weeks to await any unlikely squawks of protest, so much the better.

This caught me out once; on seeing a great pile of shite in a university corridor, I automatically gave it the once over. It was all scratty bits of rubbish (and I'm a hoarder, so it really was rubbish) apart from two or three useful-looking bits of old kit. Assuming it had been put out for the porter to dump, as usual practice, I grabbed the slightly useful looking bits and hid them under my desk.

Two days later, I encountered a colleague Dr D_ pushing a trolley with a pile of this shite on it. On asking if the porter was on strike, he said no, this was his research project.

I didn't fess up - and so had to smuggle the rest of his stuff out from under my desk and back into his much diminished pile in the corridor, before he came back for the rest. He didn't seem to notice...
 
Posted by lily pad (# 11456) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Huia:
I have just uncovered the plastic storage box with the remains of my mother's dolls teaset. It has scotty dogs printed on it and I was allowed to play with it if I was very careful. The teapot in the shape of a dog with his front paws forming the spout, was broken when it fell off the bookcase that fell over in the February 2011 earthquake. (I felt so guilty as I had promised to look after it when I was a child [Waterworks] )

It's just occurred to me that the school where I volunteer has a fair coming up next Wednesday, and the tiny cups and saucers would probably sell. In fact I'm going to do a quick check around to see what else may appeal to the children and their parents [Smile] .

Huia

Huia, I've probably said this here before, but if you are having any pangs of regret, take a photo of the set before sending it off. I somehow feel better having a photo of a couple of items that I was quite upset to have broken. Someone will be very happy to have the little tea cups and saucers.
 
Posted by Heavenly Anarchist (# 13313) on :
 
Hugs to you Huia.

I have cleared away to my husband's workshop the pile of paint, tools and DIY paraphernalia littering a corner of the kitchen. No doubt this will cause a row as I will have put them in the wrong places [Roll Eyes] but it's not as if he hasn't had the opportunity to do it himself [Mad]
On a brighter note I have cleared out a cupboard containing cookware and thrown out a huge about of plastic pots and storage containers and can now see what is actually there. I've also tidied some shelves with electronic stuff and found a new home for my cheese making kit and sorted some of the baking kit.
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ChastMastr:
The bags of trash (which had sat, un-taken-out, for a few days) appear to have been the culprits as the main source for the fruit flies.

CM, you really took me back here - though I'm sure your home isn't like this! Over 30 years ago Mr. S and I had the key to a house two doors away while the owners (middle-aged widower and his teenage son) were away on holiday. For some reason I have totally forgotten we had to go into the living room, which was LITTERED with half-empty takeaway cartons. Okay they were partly full of left-overs, but they were also full of
maggots! I had led a very sheltered life and had never seen anything like it [Projectile]

Mr S and I did what we'd come into do, and left hurriedly. I've never, ever again left food out to this very day.

Coda to this - upsetting even more of my assumptions - I mentioned this to the lady in the next house and added 'bet it wouldn't have been like that if Maureen was still alive!' 'Oh yes' she said, ' it's always been exactly the same!'

Mrs. S, still recoiling in horror [Ultra confused]
 
Posted by mark_in_manchester (# 15978) on :
 
quote:
'bet it wouldn't have been like that if Maureen was still alive
Hey folks, this is Heaven and I suspect I'm outnumbered - but. I've shared a lot of houses, sometimes with minging men, and women. The former didn't outnumber the latter!

For the moment, I'm largely a house-husband. Gender turns out (surprise surprise) to have nothing to do with our current respective tendencies to be obsessed-with-work-neglectful-of-domestic-life / resentful-nag-brewing-feelings-of-neglect [Frown]

Back on topic, and on a happier note, declutterers with a DIY bent might like to check out these pull-out wire shelves, sold individually by IKEA. You can get a stack of 4 under a work-top / table / desk, and because they pull-out, you can squish them in and still get to whatever is at the back. A plus that the missus nagged me to do it!
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by mark_in_manchester:
quote:
'bet it wouldn't have been like that if Maureen was still alive
Hey folks, this is Heaven and I suspect I'm outnumbered - but. I've shared a lot of houses, sometimes with minging men, and women. The former didn't outnumber the latter!

For the moment, I'm largely a house-husband. Gender turns out (surprise surprise) to have nothing to do with our current respective tendencies to be obsessed-with-work-neglectful-of-domestic-life / resentful-nag-brewing-feelings-of-neglect [Frown]

Back on topic, and on a happier note, declutterers with a DIY bent might like to check out these pull-out wire shelves, sold individually by IKEA. You can get a stack of 4 under a work-top / table / desk, and because they pull-out, you can squish them in and still get to whatever is at the back. A plus that the missus nagged me to do it!

m-i-m, I did say 'upsetting even more of my assumptions'! I felt sure my neighbour would say 'oh no, Maureen must be turning in her grave' cf. my sad tale of Uncle Ron on the Elderly Relatives thread [Eek!]

(and you are absolutely right about the wire basketty thingies - SO useful!)

Mrs. S, chastened
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by The Intrepid Mrs S:
Mrs. S, feeling ruthless

Go you! The Force is strong in you sister!
[Overused]
 
Posted by ChastMastr (# 716) on :
 
Well, the pickle jar I'd emptied and put water with wine and honey in it didn't seem to attract many... but since I had a bunch of dishes soaking in the sink, I'd just poured the pickle juice into a dirty bowl there... and lo and behold, there were a zillion in it. I thought, Hmmm, maybe they like vinegar? So I put some white vinegar into a cup and lo and behold, lots of flies floating in there now too.

Which is odd, since the saying is you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar, but maybe I needed to put more honey in it or something. In any case, if the vinegar works then yay. Still want them ALL gone though, which means Mt. Dishmore needs to be tackled.
 
Posted by ChastMastr (# 716) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by The Intrepid Mrs S:
CM, you really took me back here - though I'm sure your home isn't like this!

Mostly no, thank God, though... er, well, imagine these large plastic trash bags, with the plastic folded over (as such things are), and when you start to pick it up, you see a huge cloud of fruit flies and other... small... things... [Eek!] [Projectile] and then the part of your mind that goes "ew" and doesn't want to deal with it sort of shuts off out of necessity and you take the bags outside and then you get the swiffer wetjet and spray and clean, spray and clean, and then take the bags out to the car, and don't put them in the trunk oh God no but pile them on the back of the car and then as carefully as you can drive down to the dumpster and throw them in and then come back and wash your whole forearms, not just the hands, several times, while the EW EW EW starts to kick in, but it's OK, you got the bags out, but OMG EW EW EW EW EW EW EW...
 
Posted by Heavenly Anarchist (# 13313) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ChastMastr:
Well, the pickle jar I'd emptied and put water with wine and honey in it didn't seem to attract many... but since I had a bunch of dishes soaking in the sink, I'd just poured the pickle juice into a dirty bowl there... and lo and behold, there were a zillion in it. I thought, Hmmm, maybe they like vinegar? So I put some white vinegar into a cup and lo and behold, lots of flies floating in there now too.

Which is odd, since the saying is you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar, but maybe I needed to put more honey in it or something. In any case, if the vinegar works then yay. Still want them ALL gone though, which means Mt. Dishmore needs to be tackled.

In my experience they love a glass of wine so vinegar figures. They like acidic things, the treatment for flies in a worm composter is to add lime, so vinegar would be ideal for trapping them.
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by lily pad:
quote:
Originally posted by Huia:
Huia

Huia, I've probably said this here before, but if you are having any pangs of regret, take a photo of the set before sending it off. I somehow feel better having a photo of a couple of items that I was quite upset to have broken. Someone will be very happy to have the little tea cups and saucers.
lily pad, this gave me such a lightbulb moment <searches for lightbulb smilie>. Hands up everyone who has a box of old greetings cards they can't bear to throw away? Yes, I thought so. Me too! But we could take photos of them, or scan them, and then have them as a screensaver (or on an electronic photo frame if you prefer) and we'd see them a lot more often than we do now [Yipee]

If you want the message inside as well you could cut the card in half and take an image of both pieces, side by side!

lily pad - [Overused] [Overused] [Overused]

Mrs. S, reaching for the scanner
 
Posted by ChastMastr (# 716) on :
 
Not so much advice for decluttering, but if they are Christmas cards, you could decorate with them, especially if they are from loved ones who are no longer with us.

(Of course, if you have 52,000 of them then, well, that might be a tad unwieldy...)
 
Posted by Lamb Chopped (# 5528) on :
 
Vinegar by itself won't work unless they are truly desperate. They seem to want something else a bit sweet in the mix. (ask me how * know... [Disappointed] )

Vinegary wine goes very well, also straight vinegar stirred with fruit juice.
 
Posted by ChastMastr (# 716) on :
 
[* ]Fruit flies: They have gone away / Fruit flies are not here today / Fruit flies now are gone at last / Fruit fly menace: It has passed![/* ]
 
Posted by ChastMastr (# 716) on :
 
Alternately, the song "Brand New Day/Everybody Rejoice" from The Wiz may be sung. Everybody sing along!

[ 20. September 2014, 20:48: Message edited by: Cthulhu ]
 
Posted by Cottontail (# 12234) on :
 
quote:
Crap spouted by ChastMastr:
Well, the pickle jar * 'd emptied and put water with wine and honey in it didn't seem to attract many... but since * had a bunch of d***es soaking in the sink, * 'd just poured the pickle juice into a dirty bowl there... and lo and behold, there were a zillion in it. * thought, Hmmm, maybe they like vinegar? So * put some white vinegar into a cup and lo and behold, lots of flies floating in there now too.

Which is odd, since the saying is you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar, but maybe * needed to put more honey in it or something. In any case, if the vinegar works then yay. Still want them ALL gone though, which means Mt. D***more needs to be tackled.

It really disturbs me that you have completely rewritten that old proverb. [Paranoid]
 
Posted by Jane R (# 331) on :
 
The proverb is wrong anyway, because it depends what kind of fly you want to catch. Quite a lot of species are attracted to rotting meat...

Wasps, though... wasps are attracted to sugary things.
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
Why is it that this thread and the Aging Relatives thread are increasingly intertwined?

My grandfather, when nearly blind and living with my (increasingly senile) grandmother, once observed that the raspberry jam was very crunchy [Eek!]

Mrs. S, sticking to honey (which is very easy to do)
 
Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :
 
I have organised the CDs. Decluttered a few in the process.

I have started on the books. They are now mostly on the floor and I wish I'd never started. [Waterworks]

Still, I have decluttered several more in the process.
 
Posted by Nanny Ogg (# 1176) on :
 
I have been busy decluttering during the past 2 weeks. I decided that, having moved here over a year ago, if I haven't used it or worn it then it can go.

I have needed the help of a friend from church who is also doing my cleaning (I suffer from chronic pain) and he started off by making me decide to keep or not to keep.

I found that once the process had been started, I was able to do some decluttering on my own and having a jumble sale deadline helped me focus.

I am now facing the difficult part of decluttering and that is my bedroom, especially costume jewellery and accessories. that's where I really need help.
 
Posted by Nenya (# 16427) on :
 
I'm gradually adding to the boxful of books for decluttering. I find them hard because I'm emotionally attached to a lot of them. And I find paperwork hard because I'm not properly set up with a filing system, and because some of the paperwork has emotional investment as well. [Roll Eyes]

I have a friend who is, to use Flylady's term, Born Organised, and she hoovers her books [Eek!] . I'd never come across anyone else who did that until I was watching a Youtube clip of "How Clean Is Your House?" and Kim did the same. So apparently it needs to be done.

I am, however, making good progress through my kitchen cupboards and have also decluttered the bathroom cabinet and several of the dining room cupboards.

Next week's focus is the Master Bedroom.

Nen - decluttering voyeur.
 
Posted by Jane R (# 331) on :
 
Hoovering books is the best way to clean them - it gets the dust off properly. If you swipe them with a duster you end up mashing the dust down between the pages. If you have one of those high-powered cleaners you might need to switch it to low power (if possible), especially if the books are old and fragile. A vacuum cleaner designed specially for hoovering books is best (yes, there is such a thing).

If you don't want to vacuum your books the next-best method is to get a soft (unused) paintbrush, hold the book closed with the spine pointing towards you and brush the dust off gently. But if you do that you end up with dust flying everywhere; best done outdoors if possible, so you don't have to dust that room as well.

Of course if you read them often enough they don't need dusting at all [Biased]
 
Posted by lily pad (# 11456) on :
 
Jane R, you are making my head hurt with that talk.
 
Posted by Jane R (# 331) on :
 
You don't think I'm in the habit of vacuuming my *own* books, surely? I've got six thousand or so (probably more by now, they seem to breed) and better things to do with my time.

Normally I only clean books when someone else is paying me to do it. As when I worked as a Rare Books Cataloguer, many moons ago (they co