1. Lost Passwords. If you can't remember it, go to the "lost password" link on the login page. It will mail it to you.
2. Now listen very carefully.
If you enter your user name and password correctly, but still get informed you aren't logged in, then you need to change the security settings of your browser to enable cookies.
These are all in the FAQ anyway. Why people don't read them I'll never know.
[ 30 January 2002: Message edited by: David ]
I feel that this site needs some of the threads that we have had in The Styx on show permanently as each new batch of shipmates arrives.
I am sure that this would save many hosts a lot of time explaining things multiple times.
MadKaren
Mea culpa.
Keeping this thread active could also be useful to the Management as a way of tracking the kinds of problems that tend to crop up and provide data that would help to shape future FAQ's, software upgrades, and the like.
Hope this helps - Joan Rasch
quote:
Originally posted by David:
From today, I will NOT be providing technical support for the following problems.1. Lost Passwords. If you can't remember it, go to the "lost password" link on the login page. It will mail it to you.
[ 30 January 2002: Message edited by: David ]
No it doesn't!
Erin--thanks so much for your gracious fixing of the problem.
As to the other thing... every time someone tells me that a particular feature isn't working, I go in and test it myself. I've tested the "e-mail lost password" function three times over the past couple of days, and have received it within thirty seconds each time. In addition, the same automatic e-mail feature is responsible for notifying me of all registrations, and I get those in real time, too.
If you're not getting it within a few minutes, it's either lost in cyberspace, or blocked by your ISP, or taking the scenic route to get there.
I have tried the autoresponder for a lost password 4 or 5 times over the course of a week with no results. Since my ISP does not block anything as a matter of policy, there must be some other problem.
I created a sock puppet to ask this question (sorry! 
) but I would really like to reclaim my existing identity. Any help or suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
Scot
P.S. Sorry David, I only saw this thread after I had used the link to send you an email asking for support.
My other ID is mathis909. (Don't bother looking for posts, I am a long time lurker who can't hold his tongue any longer!) My email address is mathis909@earthlink.net.
I know the account still exists, since the server recognizes it, but it won't send me a password.
Thanks for you help, Erin.
Scot
Something is not happening between the Ship server and Earthlink. Surely there are other Earthlink users here?Anyway, I give up. If I may be so bold, would it be possible to have my old mathis909 ID deleted, so that I can re-create it using a different email address?
I apologize for this hassle. You've been most helpful, Erin. Thank you again.
Scot
Check this ID's Private Messages.
Scot
Thanks... 
I remember when the new boards went online lots of people had the same problem, and no one could resolve it!
Neil
quote:should be changed.
Tech support questions (including password problems) should be sent to David
It doesn't matter anyway, since no one ever reads it. I still get inundated with tech requests, which puzzles me, as you have to skip past the bolding telling you to contact David in order to get to me!
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quote:Has there been any joy Simon?
Originally posted by Simon:
I asked about this problem on the UBB tech forum (like you, tomb, I use IE for Mac) and they had no fix for it. I'm now pursuing it on another forum -- I'll let you know if there's any joy.
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quote:I quite often get this. (well, did on old computer, haven't yet on this new one.... maybe it was a computer issue)
Originally posted by The Obscure:
Every time I start up Ship Of Fools, I get an error message, saying
A runtime error has occurred. Do you wish to Debug.
Line: 287
Error: Object expected.
I get this on both my home and work computers, and although not deadly, it's really frustrating...
Is it something to do with needing specific settings for your site or something else?
Thanks
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quote:Either that or the code doesn't meet Microsoft's Patented Open Proprietary nonStandard Standards.
Originally posted by ChrisT:
Oh dear, someone's web page code not quite perfect?
I shouldn't laugh really, it's probably me that will have to fix it
quote:No! MS-POPnSS(TM) is now deprecated - code should meet MS-dot.NET-opnSS(TM)(R)(C)(and bar)
Originally posted by David:
]Either that or the code doesn't meet Microsoft's Patented Open Proprietary nonStandard Standards.
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quote:Can't we increase it to 3 minutes? 5 allows people (coughpyx_ecough) to mess around with our heads, 2 is too short a time. 3 sounds like a good compromise.
Originally posted by Smudgie:
Fifth icon along at the top of your post. Looks like a piece of paper with a pencil. Click on it. Fast
quote:Phew, that's a relief. Now I don't have to panic about screwing up an edit because of pressure to get it back in within 2 minutes! I was just waiting for me to have to double edit a post because the first one was done in such a rush.
Originally posted by RuthW:
You get 2 minutes to decide to edit and to click on the pencil - you don't have to get the editing done in two minutes. Once you've got the editing window open you can sit there and ponder for as long as you can keep your connection open.
quote:No. As jlg has said, and as I explained as well, you have two minutes to decide to edit, but once you've got that edit box open as far as we know you have unlimited time to complete the edit. So it's important that we know whether a message has been edited, as someone can easily quote a post in their reply while someone is pondering their edit of that same post. Without the edit message it could make people look like they were putting words into someone else's mouth.
Originally posted by Robert Miller:
[ 11. August 2003, 11:37: Message edited by: Robert Miller ]
this is a bit misleading, it makes it look as if I did something really off the wall the first time, when all I did was forget an end bold tag.
Seeing as we only have 2 minutes to edit the post, the edits I would have thought wouldn't be too major and not too many people would have the opportunity to read the original post.
So can the message be dispensed with?
quote:I try to, but don't always remember.
Originally posted by frin:
Non-hosts who wish to make clear that they only messed with an unclosed tag or took out an extra instance of the word 'not' which totally reversed the meaning of what they were saying could always adopt the same technique.
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quote:Ack! I had the devil's own time with Xupiter. I would remove it and it would sneak back in. It's gone at the moment, but thanks for the info about spybot.
Originally posted by Nightlamp:
Annie P may well have Xupiter which is very nasty and spy-bot gets rid of most versions of it. If that doesn't then a search around for either Ad aware 6 or spyware scanner and they may do the trick.
quote:.org is pretty loose. I've seen it from government or non-governmental agencies to individual vanity/parody sites.
Originally posted by jlg:
This isn't a Ship technical question, but this thread needs to be bumped, so I'll ask it here.
On MW, this was posted . Aside from the OP question, it made me wonder what, if any, requirements must be met in order to qualify for a dot.org domain name as opposed to dot.com or whatever.
I'm sure I'm not the only one who tends to assume that dot.org indicates at least a reasonable expectation that the website is owned by someone with an IRS non-profit status of some sort.
quote:I think .tv is the country extension for the island nation of tuvalu. I suppose they are free to sell address to whom they choose, and I can imagine it could easily be one of their major exports. Or am I getting mixed up with .nu from Nauru, or .co from Colombia?
Originally posted by ChrisT:
Perhaps .tv as well.
quote:.net addresses are not administered by the same company as .net.uk. The uk version, run by Nominet, has fairly strict rules about who can and cannot get one of these domains. Whoever looks after the .net domains (Verisign?) has a different, and probably much looser, set of rules.
Originally posted by chukovsky:
I tried to register myfamilyname.net.uk and the domain name sellers (whatever they are called) wouldn't let me have it, even though I was going to be running my family website, so in some way could be construed as an internet service provider*.
This despite the fact that all kinds of people - including the organic food company I get vegetables from - use .net addresses.
I ended up going with myfamilynames.org.uk so that the website is for "multiple members of my family" or possibly "belonging to member(s) of my family". But GRRR.
*"service" loosely defined.
quote:(I deleted the name for this post)
From "Internet Message Delivery Service" <webservice@bigfoot.com>
To "Network Client" <recipient@smtpdomain.com
Date Mon, 22 Sep 2003 12:56:27 -400
I'm sorry to have to inform you that the message returned below could not be delivered to one or more destinations.
Undelivered to <name>@bigfoot.com
Message follows:
quote:And came with the attachment:
From Microsoft <security@microsoft.com>
Dear friend , use this Internet Explorer patch now!
There are dangerous virus in the Internet now!
More than 500.000 already infected!
quote:Many viruses now morph "from" addresses. In other words, instead of merely scanning the hapless victim's drives for addys in address books and cached website "email to" tags, one of them gets the (dis)honor of being the putative sender. This is only slightly more complicated than faking a microsoft.com return address.
Originally posted by Islandexile:
I was wondering if anyone here might be able to give me some insight into the origin of a couple of messages that ended up in my Hotmail account.
One read:
quote:(I deleted the name for this post)
From "Internet Message Delivery Service" <webservice@bigfoot.com>
To "Network Client" <recipient@smtpdomain.com
Date Mon, 22 Sep 2003 12:56:27 -400
I'm sorry to have to inform you that the message returned below could not be delivered to one or more destinations.
Undelivered to <name>@bigfoot.com
Message follows:
Then blankness. It actually came as a .txt attachment. (No virus. I scanned it.)
The other was the same except for a different domain server and undeliverable-to address.
I am absolutely sure I did not send an e-mail to either address. I rarely send anything from that account. I mostly just use it to read (not post to) a couple of lists that I'm on.
The reason this bothers me is that a few weeks ago I got a couple of spams in another account (non-hotmail). Both come with @microsoft.com addresses with attachments. One of them with the subject line "Use this patch immediately!" read:
quote:And came with the attachment:
From Microsoft <security@microsoft.com>
Dear friend , use this Internet Explorer patch now!
There are dangerous virus in the Internet now!
More than 500.000 already infected!
patch.exe
(I won't even bother listing all the obvious clues that told me right off the bat that this was not what it claimed to be. )
When I Googled the addresses I found them listed on various microsoft.com Web pages. I assumed idiot virus spreaders had figured out how to make their virus-spreading e-mails appear to come from microsoft.
What I'm wondering about the bounced e-mails that turned up in my hotmail account is if the idiot virus spreaders have now started picking up hotmail addresses and delivering virus e-mails "from" hotmail users.
I've been thinking about pulling the plug on that account anyway (just because I don't care much for Microsoft) but if that's what is going on I am definitely saying goodbye to it.
Any one know if that's what might be going on?
ie
quote:Its life off the Internet as well. If I write a rude letter, sign it from you, and post it, on the face of it it will seem to come from you.
Originally posted by Islandexile:
The idea that people out there are getting spam/viruses "from" me really ticks me off. But I susppose that's life on the Internet.
quote:Almost certainly.
Originally posted by Erin:
Chapelhead: did you use it for your Nativity Play registration?
quote:As ever, you're a star.
Originally posted by Erin:
Send me the e-mail addresses that you want to use for each account and I'll change them.
quote:Go into your own profile, click on them and you'll see explanations.
Originally posted by Anselm:
What do these do?
quote:Buddy: only if they tell you.
Can you know if you are on someone else's buddy/ignore list?
quote:You don't know if you are or not, so don't worry about it.
Should I be concerned if I am on no-one's buddy list?
quote:Answering this is beyond my remit!
Am I revealing too much about my own insecurities?
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quote:Hey, I'm getting ready to burn that heretick Karl--Liberal Backslider at the stake. You can throw some more in if you want.
Originally babbled by Phoenix/Pheonix:
Is this before or after we burn you at the stake for using outlook?
quote:Actually, could you just burn my system at the stake? Then the people sending the valid emails would call or fax me, and the junk stuff wouldn't get through, either.
Originally babbled by Phoenix/Pheonix:
Is this before or after we burn you at the stake for using outlook?
quote:I know!
Originally babbled by Joyeux:
quote:Actually, could you just burn my system at the stake? Then the people sending the valid emails would call or fax me, and the junk stuff wouldn't get through, either.
Originally babbled by Phoenix/Pheonix:
Is this before or after we burn you at the stake for using outlook?
Wow! You guys come up with the bestest solutions!
The stake is now burning in Hell. Feel free to throw your system in along with any hereticks you know.
quote:
-- Update October 31st 2003 07:20 PST --
This worm was mass-spammed, which appears to have been the initial "seeding". An attachment named undelivered.hta (proactively detected as Downloader-BO.dr with the 4250+ DAT files) creates the file c:\mware.exe . This executable is the W32/Mimail.c@MM worm. When the .hta file is run, the following message is displayed:
Your message will be sent again in 1 hour. If it doesn't arrive - we will delete it from queue.
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Due to the increased number of samples being submitted to AVERT, the risk assessment of this threat was raised to medium.
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This mass-mailing worm spreads as a .ZIP file, contains a denial of service attack, and information stealing payload.
It bears similarities to a previous worm, W32/Mimail@MM . However, this variant does not use the codebase (MS02-015 ) and MHTML (MS03-014 ) exploits that the previous variants did.
A summary of the virus characteristics are as follows:Scanning of compressed files should always be enabled for optimal detection.
- contains it own SMTP engine for constructing messages
- mails itself as a ZIP attachment
- harvests email addresses from the local machine
- sends large volume of data (garbage) to a remote server - DoS payload (see below)
- captures information and emails it to four addresses
Mail Propagation
Target email addresses are harvested from files on the victim's machine. The worm ignores address extraction from files that contain the following extensions:Addresses are written to the file EML.TMP in %WinDir% (such as c:\windows). Testing shows the worm is overly lax in identifying valid email addresses - as a result messages are likely to be sent to invalid recipients.
- avi
- bmp
- cab
- com
- dll
- exe
- gif
- jpg
- mp3
- mpg
- ocx
- psd
- rar
- tif
- vxd
- wav
- zip
Outgoing messages are sent using the worm's own SMTP engine. They are formatted as follows:
Subject : Re[2]: our private photos (plus additional spaces then random characters)
Attachment : PHOTOS.ZIP (12,958 bytes) which contains PHOTOS.JPG.EXE (12,832 bytes)
Message Body :
Hello Dear!,
Finally, i've found possibility to right u, my lovely girl
All our photos which i've made at the beach (even when u're withou ur bh:))
photos are great! This evening i'll come and we'll make the best SEX
Right now enjoy the photos.
Kiss, James.
(random characters - the same as those terminating the subject)
Messages are constructed with the following X-headers:
X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62)
X-Priority: 1 (High)
The 'From' address of outgoing messages may be spoofed as follows:
james@(target domain.com)
Such as
james@abc.com
james@xyz.com
etc
As with previous variants, the mailing routing queries the mail server for the domain related to the target (harvested) address. Messages are then sent through that SMTP server. The worm contains a hardcoded IP address (212.5.86.163).
Denial of Service
The worm sends a large amount of data to remote servers (port 80 and ICMP). The worm verifies that a connection is active by contacting www.google.com. If successful, an attack is initiated on the following domains:
darkprofits.net
darkprofits.com
www.darkprofits.net
www.darkprofits.com
Information stealing payload
The following email address are encrypted within the virus body and are used to send captured information to. Analysis of the exact information gathered is ongoing.
omnibbb@gmx.net
drbz@mail15.com
omnibcd@gmx.net
kxva@mail15.com
quote:It's mail through the company's server. The good news is that they're FINALLY starting to implement a filter... actually they're starting to label SPAM where they detect it. I've had to notify them of a dozen plus fals positives. The theory is that, once they work through the false positives, after a few months, SPAM will be automatically deleted.
Originally posted by ChrisT:
Joyeux, if you collect your email from a mail server on your companys network then really they should control spam and junk mail. That may be something to have A Word with your network administrator about.
However if all you do is use the internet connection at your work to connect to te internet and collect mails directly from an internet mail server then follow frins advice.
There is a quick way to (possibly) find the mail server. If your email address is joyeux@myisp.com then your mail server may be mail.myisp.com. Possibly. But no promises and YMMV.
quote:I know next to nothing about DNS, so this might not be related in any way, but:
Originally posted by ChrisT:
Yeah, I remember. Hmm. Maybe the DSN settings for shipffools.com need refreshing. Clear out the system, as 'twere. But it's still wierd - especially if Mrs Lilith is connecting through fish.co.uk.
quote:It's probably spyware that tracks your every move on the internet and reports back to whatever sent it, for whatever purpose. If it's an uninvited guest, you're better off getting rid of it. Deleting it manually (if you can) isn't always the best thing to do as sometimes they alter the Registry and your configuration to suit themselves, and may screw up your pc if they don't have the bit you just deleted. You need something like Spybot, which is pretty good at detecting and removing these things. It will also warn you in future if things like this are downloading themselves, and will block it before it happens.
Originally posted by Joyeux:
On another front, a colleague has had a hotbar install itself on her machine (she most likely clicked something she shouldn't have). How do you uninstall it? (we're both using Windows XP) I tried going into the add/remove programs, but it wasn't there. I did a find, found it on her hard drive, tried to delete it, but it wouldn't let me. Or is it harmless and can stay?
quote:
An issue was identified yesterday with Internet Explorer and the way it displays URLs in the address bar.
From the original Bugtraq posting:
"By opening a window using the http://user@domain nomenclature an attacker can hide the real location of the page by including a 0x01 character after the "@" character. Internet Explorer doesn't display the rest of the URL making the page appear to be at a different domain. "
Proof of Concept http://www.zapthedingbat.com/security/ex01/vun1.htm
This is particularly pertinent given the recent spate of emails from fraudulent online banking sites, such as those pretending to be Natwest. This problem makes these types of scams a great deal harder for end users to spot, as it is now possible to have eg www.natwest.com appear in the address bar when the end user is looking at a fraudulent site.
There is as yet no fix from Microsoft for this issue, nor is there a workaround for Internet Explorer.
quote:Actually if it's got an attachment with "click here", it's likely to be a virus. the attachment, besides setting off more mass mailing, will send your personal info to someone, the better with which to try to steal your identity.
Originally posted by ken:
The mails apparently from banks are purely random. Just ignore them, like all other spam.
No reputable company uses email in this way.
It's like the weather. No one is picking on you any more than the clouds are picking on you when it rains.
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quote:Hit the icon at the top of your post with a pencil and paper.
Originally posted by Amanda B. Reckondwythe:
How does one edit one's post in the 2-minute time frame one is given to "make it say what you really meant?" Sorry, but I just can't figure it out.
quote:If you hover the mouse pointer over it, on most browsers it displays the text "Edit/delete post".
Originally posted by Viola:
quote:Hit the icon at the top of your post with a pencil and paper.
Originally posted by Amanda B. Reckondwythe:
How does one edit one's post in the 2-minute time frame one is given to "make it say what you really meant?" Sorry, but I just can't figure it out.
Actually - that sounds a little drunk and ambiguous - I hope you understand!
There's an icon showing a pencil and paper - hit that!
quote:Is this still a problem for anyone? I notice it didn't get answered.
Originally posted by George Spigot:
OK i've clicked on all my messages and then clicked on my profile link insted of the back button. Now all my PM titles are showing up as the same color but I still get the message?
quote:Sorry, I overlooked this. But I have no idea what might be causing the problem.
Originally posted by jlg:
quote:Is this still a problem for anyone? I notice it didn't get answered.
Originally posted by George Spigot:
OK i've clicked on all my messages and then clicked on my profile link insted of the back button. Now all my PM titles are showing up as the same color but I still get the message?
quote:Thursday, I stopped using Opera when the ship's cafe would not work with it. I tried Opera once again just now and Opera closed with an illegal operation and Java error on trying to access the cafe. Hope that helps. Bill Gates knows how to make other software fall over!
Originally posted by thursday:
I tried to go to the cafe just now, for the first time. i logged in fine, and got to the screen that says"Step right in...".
And I couldn't go any further. There was a box at the bottom that said 'connect' but it wasn't a button. I clicked on it just in case, but no.
Where am I going wrong?
I'm using Opera as my browser, if that's relevant.
code:And here's what the launcher acutally requests:<applet codebase="/DigiChat/DigiClasses" code="digi.digichat.DigiChatApplet"
width="450" height="100" align="middle" archive="client.jar">
<param name=siteID value=1000>
<param name=preferredPort value=443>
</applet>
code:Which isn't at all the same thing!GET /DigiChat/DigiClasses/digi/digichat/DigiChatApplet.class HTTP/1.1
quote:Originally posted by PaulW
Sorry if I missed it (I've trawled through all 4 pages of Styx but couldn't see it), but on a previous thread where people moaned about not being able to get into the cafe someone very helpfully posted a link in order to download the correct version of Java. Since I've had my super-duper new computer (hooray!) I've not been able to get into the cafe (boo!), but don't know which Java version I need or how to access it.
Thanks for your help
quote:
If you follow the FAQ link on the cafe page, you'll find a handy guide entitled Help, I can't get in the cafe. That should have the information you require.
quote:Yes, as I mentioned in my post.
Originally posted by Belisarius:
I've been told that there is info in the FAQs about using the Applet Launcher. Have you already tried that?
quote:Quite right.
Originally posted by basso:
Yes, as I mentioned in my post.
? ]quote:It's because the Posted: display uses JavaScript, for some odd reason. Methinks we have UBB to blame for that - most boards process the times and dates on the server instead of handing it off to the browser.
Originally posted by madferret:
I've just got myself a trendy new Smartphone so I can visit the Ship while on the train.
It's a Motorola MPx200 running MS Smartphone 2002 software. One thing I have noticed is that when browsing a thread the "Posted 25 February, 2004 18:58" bit just shows "Posted" and nothing else. Which is VERY confusing on threads that are new to me as I've no idea how long they've been around!
Is there a reason why this happens? Is it linked, possibly, to the fixed table width for posts, which is a pain to read on a 176 x 200 browser
[inserted the right time
quote:Good motivation I guess. Although PHPBB manages to support local timezones while still doing server-side processing
Originally posted by Erin:
It hands it off to the browser so that everyone can view it in their local time rather than being restricted to one specific time.
quote:It used to be really long, like paragraphs, but one of the upgrades changed that. I keep going back and forth on changing it: on the one hand, it's not enough room; on the other, it would make people's profiles look stupid until they went in and updated it.
Originally posted by Talitha:
How long is the "essay/sermon/profile" field supposed to be? I can only fit about 50 characters into it, which doesn't make for a very good essay.
(Actually I only wanted to put about 5 lines.)
quote:So, I followed Paul's link, and in the Cafe FAQs there's a link to the Sun website from where I can download Java. However I think that the advice in the Cafe FAQ re connecting to Sun may now be out of date and need updating. I couldn't find a JRE column on Sun's site, it was all about J2SE (whatever the heck that is). There are also some archived versions available for downloading, several of which appeared to be variants of version 1.2.2, but I just know the version I choose to download will do something terrible.
Originally posted by Belisarius:
Originally posted by Jack the Lassquote:Originally posted by PaulW
Sorry if I missed it (I've trawled through all 4 pages of Styx but couldn't see it), but on a previous thread where people moaned about not being able to get into the cafe someone very helpfully posted a link in order to download the correct version of Java. Since I've had my super-duper new computer (hooray!) I've not been able to get into the cafe (boo!), but don't know which Java version I need or how to access it.
Thanks for your helpquote:
If you follow the FAQ link on the cafe page, you'll find a handy guide entitled Help, I can't get in the cafe. That should have the information you require.
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quote:Thank you. I'm sorry this is so painful
Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:
In InternetExplorer, open the Internet Properties window (under Tools on the menu bar). Select the Advances tab ... somewhere in that list there will be a Java (Sun) section, make sure the use "Version 2 v1.3.1 for applet" option (or something similar to that) is checked, and also the "Enable Java Console" tab that will be somewhere below it.
quote:No, but I think one of them might be from me
Originally posted by Smudgie:
My email notification informs me I have two new private messages, but there is no sign of them in my profile. Any ideas how I might track them down?
quote:Send out a hunting party?
Originally posted by Smudgie:
My email notification informs me I have two new private messages, but there is no sign of them in my profile. Any ideas how I might track them down?
quote:I think it's about time to ask that question again.
Originally posted by Paul W:
How much of an Organ Fund donation would I have to make to get the cafe upgraded to something that doesn't cause all these hassles?
quote:I wasn't too impressed when I saw that requirement in Firefox myself. Are you using KDE on your Linux machine? If you are, you may be able to persuade Konqueror (KDE's own browser and file manager) to open the cafe. Works for me.
Originally posted by basso:
I'm still getting the same error at home -- the server won't even give me the applet. And now I learn that my browser at work won't work with a Java version below 1.4.x.
(It's Mozilla Firefox -- but all Mozilla derivatives have the same requirement.) [Don't suggest IE -- it's not available for Linux.]
quote:I've never used KDE -- but I just installed enough of it to run Konq -- and I got into the cafe!!!
Originally posted by Paul W.:
Are you using KDE on your Linux machine? If you are, you may be able to persuade Konqueror (KDE's own browser and file manager) to open the cafe. Works for me.
quote:It still doesnt seem to list version 1.3.1...even though I have downloaded it and "unzipped" it...
Originally posted by Pheonix:
make sure you have closed down all instances of your browser...
Then open up control panel via the start menu. The versions of Java should then be listed in there. By double clicking on them and then selecting the browser tab you can turn that version on or off in your web browser.
Pheo
quote:I can't find anything either called executable installer or setup.exe.
Originally posted by Gremlin:
Have you run the executable installer that was in the zip file? (It's probably called something like 'setup.exe')
Gremlin
quote:Is there anything in the zip file that ends in .exe? And is there a Readme.txt - this might have some useful info in it.
Originally posted by welsh dragon:
I can't find anything either called executable installer or setup.exe.
Neither have I managed to find a netscape version 4 (Alan's link didn't work).
And in my control panel I seem to have 2 versions of Java 1.4 but none registered of 1.3.1.
quote:You need to delete your cookies, close your browser and then open it again and log in to the ship with your new password. That should solve your problem.
Originally posted by Anselmina:
I'm still having problems since my password was changed. I keep logging on, only to be told I haven't logged on. And yet it seems I can still post! It also means I don't have access to my profile or the directory, as that isn't an option when you're not logged on (even though I have!).
Can someone help to sort me out?
quote:I had to uninstall it because it broke lots of things. Java backward compatibility is shite.
Originally posted by KenWritez:
There's a new Java upgrade, J2SE Runtime Environment 1.5.0_06-b05. Anyone experienced probelms viewing the Ship after installing the upgrade?
quote:Any suggestions? Shall I send maple syrup and a tuque instead? OliviaG
Issue number required.
MAE can not be used to make payments in this store.
quote:Moved from another thread.
Originally posted by mdijon:
My laptop/browser combination (IE) seems to occasionally fill in web pages from offline memory, even though connected.
This makes it appear that no-one has posted on any boards in the day since I last connected (which I usually spot).
Normally it does refresh if I click on a thread. But occasionally even the thread seems to get filled in from offline memory. This can cause embarrassing cross-posts.
Clicking refresh every so often seems to jump-start it all.
But does anyone share this difficulty, and have any long-term solution to prevent my occasional embarrassment?
quote:Stopping using Internet Exploder solved that problem for me. Hooray for Firefox!
Originally posted by mdijon:
Well look at that....
Perfect.
Thanks.
quote:Or a very old error, I suppose.
An error has occured:
I can't process time before the world began! at CGIPath/ubb_lib_time.cgi line 500.
Please inform the board administration of this error so that they can abuse the vendor. Thanks!
quote:And lo, when the email was read it was revealed to be exactly as the Admin had fortold.
Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:
You've got an option for people to email you through the board software, rather than having your email address visible to all. Such emails will look very similar to PM notifications.
quote:Not that I'm aware of - it's something you'll need to get into the habit of doing before you switch the PC off.
Originally posted by mountainsnowtiger:
Is there any way I can instruct SoF to log me out if I am inactive for a certain length of time a/o if the browser window with SoF closes a/o similar situation?
I only have access to the 'net via internet cafes or (sporadically) via my landlord's 'puter. I was a little unnerved today to find that, having forgotten to log off on Saturday, I am still logged in to SoF on my landlord's puter 3 days later, even though the puter has been switched off for some of that time. Obviously, I'm going to become much more careful about remembering to log out, but is there any way I can set up some kind of log-out safety-net?
quote:Possible. Lots of places won't allow cafe type software through their firewall. Sorry.
Originally posted by mountainsnowtiger:
If I log into the Cafe and then, at the bottom of the page with the Cafe commandments, where there should be the 'connect to Cafe' button, there is instead the message 'DigiChat requires a Java Compatible web browser to run', does that mean the computer I'm on will not run the Cafe?
*sigh* - well, this is technically a university library so I suppose it's sort of fair enough that they're not going to allow me to chat
quote:If you've moved, does this mean you're using a different internet connection (ISP, or maybe modem or firewall) from previously?
Papio:
I have changed address and now cannot get into the chatroom. Am using same computer etc etc as before, but now it tells me that "an unknown error has occured".
quote:Please keep this thread for Ship related technical issues, thanks.
Originally posted by ship's cat:
My apologies if I'm raising this in the wrong place as it's not a specifically SoF problem -
Does anyone know what's going on with the Thinking Anglicans website? I've not been able to get on to it for days.
quote:Seemingly, I can get in with IE but not with Firefox.
Originally posted by Wesley J:
Have you tried different browsers, Papio? Perhaps one of them might work, at least as a temporary solution?
quote:I've just had that same thing happen to me posting on a Private board. Has Scrooge got into the board software again?
Originally posted by Leetle Masha:
I have a "ghost in the machine" tonight. Whenever I try to type the word Xmas spelled out in a pm, it gives me a string of asterisks!
Mary
quote:Again, have you failed to notice Erin's announcement above? Anything goes this weekend.
Originally posted by Hazey*Jane:
quote:I've just had that same thing happen to me posting on a Private board. Has Scrooge got into the board software again?
Originally posted by Leetle Masha:
I have a "ghost in the machine" tonight. Whenever I try to type the word Xmas spelled out in a pm, it gives me a string of asterisks!
Mary
quote:the quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog
quote:'Tis a puzzlement.
the quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog
quote:Your post in Kerygmania was edited by Kelly Alves, one of the hosts of that board. When the hosts edit a post, they insert a note explaining what they did. In this case, Kelly left this note - [Fixed code] Evidently, there was some messed up code in your post and the host fixed it for you.
Originally posted by jerusalemcross:
me again, sorry. At the bottom of one of my recent posts was the notation "edited by..." and it wasn't me. what does this mean please, have I been naughty or something? I can't remember the full text of what I thought I wrote, is someone altering my posts (potentially changing my meaning) after I send them in?
quote:You can contact us by posting here in the Styx, by PMing one of us. You can find the host and admins names and PM info by clicking the "Who's what" link in the left-hand menu.
Also how does one contact the board admin or hosts - can't find any link to them. But as it's so late I many be too bleary-eyed to find it!!
thanks v much
Sorry.
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quote:OK, this is not a cookie issue.
Originally posted by mountainsnowtiger:
...I want Windows to remember my Ship password and today I absentmindedly clicked yes instead of no. ...
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quote:Sounds a rollicking thread title for Purgatory...
Originally posted by orkney fan:
and how do I atone for my sin?
quote:Now you have provided a working email address, your profile has been amended. Go forth and sin no more.
Originally posted by orkney fan:
my email address hasn't closed it just gets so much spam it is screwed I am only beinging to realise how badly screwed as I have lost several emails that I know of. Anyways if someone has the time a happy, working spam free email address is Jennywaller@btinternet.com please update me when you can and I will try not to sin again
sorry
code:and had the error messagemedieval(ish)
code:It took me a few seconds to spot it ... and yes, I know why it should be filtered out. And I know how to use the code tag to post this.Sorry, we do not permit the following HTML
tag or attribute: eval (
quote:for my quote began in the middle of the Shipmate's original sentence and his initial eye was lowercase.
Originally posted by some wise Shipmate:
[ I ]f you have a basic understanding <etc., etc.>
quote:[I]
Originally posted by Autenrieth Road:
You can use the numeric HTML code [ to produce [ . So typing [I] results in the desired [I].
quote:Thanks Moo. And it works!
Originally posted by Moo:
If you want the quote to be bold, click on the " mark at the top of the post you want to quote. Delete anything you do not want to quote, but be sure not to delete anything in square brackets.
Moo
quote:Thank you
Originally posted by Scot:
Daisydaisy, it looks like your thread was Obliviated during a recent housecleaning in All Saints. I moved it back where it belongs (click here) . The url is different, so be sure to update the link in your sig.
quote:The nicest former admin ever.... with a lost avatar - are you aware of this?
Originally posted by Scot:
I may have been a mean admin, but I'm the nicest former admin ever.
quote:Can you log out and not log back in?
Originally posted by Tractor Girl:
Due to my complete lack of self-control and desire to actually get my dis written I need to be put on read only status for a month or so, so I can't log in.
Is this possible and how do I arrange it?
quote:
Having a problem logging in? This can happen if the cookies have been set wrongly in your browser. Click the link above to clear your cookies so that the board can set fresh new ones.
quote:If it turns out not to be a "cookies" solved problem; last weekend I endured this torture due to having downloaded a cafeteria of security protection: spyware, anti-virus, firewall and I forget what else (one more). Prior to that I only had anti-virus protection.
Originally posted by Campbellite:
It is also calling for my login and password for me to edit a post.
quote:We used to have a much longer edit window (when we were first permitted to edit our own posts), but this was abused. Consequently, we have ended up with our current very narrow window.
Originally posted by dogwonderer:
Please would someone tell me whether the edit window really does need to be quite so short?
quote:I think you are a little confused?
Originally posted by dogwonderer:
I recently made a post to which I wished to make an Edit. Between making the correction and clicking 'Add Reply', the board's Flood Protection had come into operation, and I had to wait 120 seconds before I could hit 'Add Reply' again. During that time, I missed the edit window, of course.
Please would someone tell me whether the edit window really does need to be quite so short? At any rate, shouldn't the Flood Control time delay be shorter than the edit window (by at least a minute), so people get the chance to make an edit even if they encounter Flood Control?
quote:appears now to be fixed. Or has my computer started doing something different. Either way it's nice to hit the Back button and find my words of wisdom still there.
Note: Using your back button to return to the previous page may cause the data you were attempting to submit to be lost. Instead, you should use your browser's reload button when the time period has elapsed.
» Please use your browser's back button to return, unless you got this because of flood control, in which case, the back button will just try to screw with you. Sorry about that.
quote:The problem could be caused by a number of things - email no longer working, spam filters etc.
Originally posted by TubaMirum:
Is this the place to work out email issues? I keep getting locked out because emails from SoF to me are apparently bouncing - I'm not getting notifications of PMs, anyway - but I don't know what to do about this. I've already contacted my ISP, and nobody else seems to be having this problem; what does anybody suggest? I can't PM the Admins, obviously, because I'm locked out from doing anything.
I guess the best thing is to get a Yahoo email account or something? What's that all about, anyway? Is it purely web-based, or can it be set up on an email client? Is Yahoo the best one?
quote:I prefer Gmail (Google's e-mail service) to Yahoo, but I haven't used my Yahoo service for quite a long time, so I'm going by memory. Both have web-based access, not sure about downloading to a local mail program. I like the tagging/sorting options and spam filters on Gmail, and storage space is seemingly inexhaustable (according to friends who make great use of it). But you do have to put up with the sponsored ads. They're off on the side so they don't bother me.
Originally posted by TubaMirum:
I guess the best thing is to get a Yahoo email account or something? What's that all about, anyway? Is it purely web-based, or can it be set up on an email client? Is Yahoo the best one?
quote:Thanks, Otter. Will look into both. I have lots of perfectly good addresses available from my ISP, though, so I sort of hate to have to come up with yet another login/password to have to remember....
Originally posted by Otter:
I prefer Gmail (Google's e-mail service) to Yahoo, but I haven't used my Yahoo service for quite a long time, so I'm going by memory. Both have web-based access, not sure about downloading to a local mail program. I like the tagging/sorting options and spam filters on Gmail, and storage space is seemingly inexhaustable (according to friends who make great use of it). But you do have to put up with the sponsored ads. They're off on the side so they don't bother me.
Both Gmail and Yahoo are free, you could sign up for both and see which you like better. I think you can sign up for Gmail without being sent an invite, but if I'm wrong, I have a bunch.
quote:Thanks. I'll try to work out the spam filter thing, or else set up an email address elsewhere. Sorry again; didn't know.
Originally posted by Tubbs:
Tubamum,
I've unlocked your profile and set your pm notification email option to "no".
Tubbs
quote:And date?
Originally posted by Firenze:
PC, watch, phone, clock on the wall - all show the same time.
quote:Yes.
Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:
And date?
. Please don't take this as a complaint, but rather an inquiry. Is my work computer having issues or is the ship a bit funky this week?
quote:No. When the cafe is back there will be an announcement in The Styx.
Originally posted by Sir Kevin:
I tried to e-mail cafe admin, but could not do so. Is the caf really up and running?
?
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quote:Couldn't be. Must have been one of the Anglicans...
Originally posted by Rossweisse:
Yes, Trip, you killed Purgatory!
quote:
Originally posted by Rossweisse:
Yes, Trip, you killed Purgatory!
Ross
quote:No one expects the Romish inquisition.
Originally posted by Triple Tiara:
quote:
Originally posted by Rossweisse:
Yes, Trip, you killed Purgatory!
Ross
quote:You got me. I did it. Commence flogging now.
Originally posted by basso:
quote:Couldn't be. Must have been one of the Anglicans...
Originally posted by Rossweisse:
Yes, Trip, you killed Purgatory!
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![[brick wall]](graemlins/brick_wall.gif)
![[Devil]](graemlins/devil.gif)
quote:Oh Erin,
Originally posted by Erin:
I've e-mailed the tech admin to work his mojo, like he did in the Styx a while back. For future reference, if you try to post and it doesn't show, take a look and see if there have been any new posts in the past few hours or so, instead of submitting the same post 10 times. They WILL show up when the bottleneck is cleared.
The post rate seemed to slow down for the few hours leading up to that - I was unable to post for about half an hour before the last posts on some of the threads.quote:Visit Hell, they are open for business...
Originally posted by SusanDoris:
I have been trying to post a reply on the 'How do you doubt?' thread in Purgatory', but five attempts have failed. That dark line thing on the bar at the bottom of the screen starts moving along, then stutters and stops. What shall I do, please?
quote:
I've e-mailed the tech admin to work his mojo, like he did in the Styx a while back. For future reference, if you try to post and it doesn't show, take a look and see if there have been any new posts in the past few hours or so, instead of submitting the same post 10 times. They WILL show up when the bottleneck is cleared.
Thanks for restoring life!
quote:I had the same thought.
Originally posted by Eutychus:
...This has to have been a romish plot
quote:
Internal Server Error
The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.
Please contact the server administrator, admin and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error.
More information about this error may be available in the server error log.
quote:Maybe they're testing the new cafe on the live server, and it's not quite working yet.
Originally posted by Gwai:
I think the ship was momentarily offline. I couldn't get response from any ship webpage for a moment.
quote:We have to adjust the offset ourselves in our profile. I did, anyway.
Originally posted by Doc Tor:
Are we BSTing all winter, or will we be reset to the glorious joys of GMT?
quote:Odd. Mine agree again after being different all summer!
Originally posted by Doc Tor:
I'm suffering cognative dissonance between ShipTime™ and the clock in the corner of my screen...
quote:Drat, I saw this after I'd made the change. Not that it's particularly difficult and I changed it because I was in my profile anyway.
Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:
You'll all have to make the adjustment again next weekend when the clock on the server goes back an hour. The server follows the US in changing clocks a week after the UK.
quote:I've never actually come across an answer to that question. Though it's one that gets raised regularly (like, every 6 months when the clocks change!)
Originally posted by Carys:
Why is shiptime UK time -1 and on US clock changing rules?
quote:I understood it was because Erin is the Supreme Protectress of the Ship's Server, and since both are located in the states, our time change takes precedence... in some mysterious, unknown way, of course.
Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:
quote:I've never actually come across an answer to that question. Though it's one that gets raised regularly (like, every 6 months when the clocks change!)
Originally posted by Carys:
Why is shiptime UK time -1 and on US clock changing rules?
(it's because hubby has an irritating habit of wanting to use the computer sometimes) Since yesterday Vista has taken to telling me it wants to install Flash Player every time I come to the Ship, which is especially confusing because I thought I had Flash Player anyway!
quote:I think I see where your problem probably resides.
Originally posted by Stumbling Pilgrim:
Vista
quote:Just back from shore leave to find I have the same problem as Stumbling Pilgrim; moreover, it takes an average of four minutes staring at a blank screen before I get the "do you want to install Adobe Flash Player?" message. Every other site I use regularly is working normally:
Originally posted by Stumbling Pilgrim:
Can anybody tell me why my computer keeps trying to install Flash Player every time I log on to the Ship? It's not doing it with any other sites, and it's only started doing it tonight - has the Ship been tweaked so that I need it? If not, how can I stop it happening? Excuse my ignorance, but I'm mightily confused and a little concerned
quote:We seem to be going very slow today, is there a problem with the Servers?? It's taking minutes, rather than seconds to load the boards this morning and multiple-duplicate posts seem to be appearing on some boards.
Originally posted by Horseman Bree:
What happened yesterday?
When I tried to read the BBs, the "Board Home" page took about 30 sec. to load, and every page after that required at least 30 sec (and up to two minutes) of nothing happening to load.
If I tried to post, I received a "not responding, try again" reply after several minutes. When I did do that, the net result was that my post appeared twice.
I'm sorry that others are having the same problem, but very glad that it's not just me. It took me over five minutes to get here. (Preview post is really my friend!)![[Votive]](graemlins/votive.gif)
quote:Thanks, pease. Your work is greatly appreciated.
Originally posted by pease:
It was indeed because of Kitschmas...
I've implemented a workaround to ease the pressure.
quote:Very much appreciated, HB.
Originally posted by Horseman Bree:
Thank you for your efforts for us.
The least I can do is go to the Organ Fund (my memory having been jogged by this!)
quote:Yes, this is exactly what I continue to experience -- the long wait. followed by the "Install Flash Player" message.
Originally posted by Melangell:
quote:Just back from shore leave to find I have the same problem as Stumbling Pilgrim; moreover, it takes an average of four minutes staring at a blank screen before I get the "do you want to install Adobe Flash Player?" message. Every other site I use regularly is working normally:
Originally posted by Stumbling Pilgrim:
Can anybody tell me why my computer keeps trying to install Flash Player every time I log on to the Ship? It's not doing it with any other sites, and it's only started doing it tonight - has the Ship been tweaked so that I need it? If not, how can I stop it happening? Excuse my ignorance, but I'm mightily confused and a little concerned
quote:As of last night, this problem seems to have been fixed - thank you very much!
Originally posted by Foolhearty:
quote:Yes, this is exactly what I continue to experience -- the long wait. followed by the "Install Flash Player" message.
Originally posted by Melangell:
quote:Just back from shore leave to find I have the same problem as Stumbling Pilgrim; moreover, it takes an average of four minutes staring at a blank screen before I get the "do you want to install Adobe Flash Player?" message. Every other site I use regularly is working normally:
Originally posted by Stumbling Pilgrim:
Can anybody tell me why my computer keeps trying to install Flash Player every time I log on to the Ship? It's not doing it with any other sites, and it's only started doing it tonight - has the Ship been tweaked so that I need it? If not, how can I stop it happening? Excuse my ignorance, but I'm mightily confused and a little concerned
While I appreciate pease's fix for the other problem above, this appears to be a separate issue, as I just got the msg again.
Any suggestions?
quote:This thread is for Ship related techinical questions only.
Originally posted by Martin L:
Apologies to the hosts if I'm posting this in the wrong spot, but I wonder if someone here knows the solution to this issue:
I receive the podcasts from S. Clement Philadelphia, and I keep the music listings for each liturgy in the "Lyrics" section of my iPod. However, S. Clement's has a default info section that appears to promote their website and overrides the lyrics display. Thus, I can view the music titles when I'm on the computer, but I can't when I'm viewing my iPod.
Is there any way to eliminate the default "Visit our website"? (Obviously, if I'm receiving their podcasts, I already know about their website. I would rather know who composed the beautiful music while I am listening to it.)
quote:PHPBB 3 is now out. You may want to look into that if you're after a new bulletin board.
Originally posted by Erin:
I'll ask pease to check in, but honestly, this software is ancient, it might be dying. I'll start checking into what our upgrade options are (no UBB, I think, because this particular application doesn't exist any more).
quote:Having run phpBB2 on Church of Fools for a while, Pease and I would need a lot of convincing to even consider installing anything written in PHP ever again. Even well-written PHP is a disaster waiting to happen on a virtually-hosted site, and phpBB2 didn't qualify as 'well-written' by a long chalk.
Originally posted by Amorya:
Fear nothing from the security problem rumours that abound the web.
quote:I completely disagree. Obviously badly written PHP is undesirable but there's no reason to write off the whole language because of some people's inability to use it. Why is well written PHP a disaster waiting to happen?
Originally posted by Melon:
quote:Having run phpBB2 on Church of Fools for a while, Pease and I would need a lot of convincing to even consider installing anything written in PHP ever again. Even well-written PHP is a disaster waiting to happen on a virtually-hosted site, and phpBB2 didn't qualify as 'well-written' by a long chalk.
Originally posted by Amorya:
Fear nothing from the security problem rumours that abound the web.
quote:No suEXEC, which means, according to one source
Originally posted by Amorya:
Why is well written PHP a disaster waiting to happen?
quote:AFAIC, any programming language that can't use files safely is fit for nothing more than personal home pages, which, of course, is what PHP originally stood for.
Because all scripts running on a machine run as the same user, a file that one script creates can be read by another, regardless of which user wrote the script. All a script needs to know to read a file is the name of that file. There is no way to change this, so the best solution is not to use files.
quote:The only shared host I use seems to manage OK:
Originally posted by Melon:
quote:No suEXEC
Originally posted by Amorya:
Why is well written PHP a disaster waiting to happen?
code:Dunno how they did it. I could find out for you if needed.system("whoami");
quote:The quote was wrong.
Originally posted by Melon:
Oh you can do it, you just can't make any files created by any php script on a virtually hosted server secure, as the above quote explained.
. I can confirm that it links to the profile of whoever is clicking the link.quote:Its like that for me in IE6 but no other browser.
Originally posted by Mama Thomas:
For about a week my Boards Home link on the left side of the screen hasn't been working. Just me or what?
thanks
quote:Nope, the cafe thread is the right place for this kind of technical problem. This thread is for other Ship related technical issues.
Originally posted by bbio:
OK, new here so posted this query on wrong thread probably.
trying again.
When I try to get into the cafe (firefox user) i get
IO Error (java.net.ConnectException: Connection timed out: connect)
java.net.PlainSocketImpl : socketConnect at line -2
java.net.PlainSocketImpl : doConnect at line -1
java.net.PlainSocketImpl : connectToAddress at line -1
java.net.PlainSocketImpl : connect at line -1
java.net.SocksSocketImpl : connect at line -1
java.net.Socket : connect at line -1
java.net.Socket : connect at line -1
java.net.Socket : <init> at line -1
java.net.Socket : <init> at line -1
uk.co.darkgreenmedia.faverolle.SocketComms : run at line 97
java.lang.Thread : run at line -1
I cant use internet explorer as it seems to think i have more than 1 java running - even tho i have not.
Any idea what I can do about either problem?
thank-you
quote:Tubbs
Originally posted by TomOfTarsus:
Hey, all.
It's been a while since I posted (been terribly busy). But I thought I'd drop by, a naturally had to try and stick my 2 pence in somewhere!
I used to be able to login and stay logged in for weeks at a time. But now, all I can do is log in message by message.
During my non-posting interval, we started using an actual newtork with Windows Small Business Server 2003. However, my persistant login capabilities seem to be ok on other boards, so I don't think my cookies are over-restriced or anything like that. Can you have a look on your end and see if there's anything we can do?
Thanks, and blessings,
Tom
quote:This should be sorted out soon.
Originally posted by Drifting Star:
My visited links aren't going blue. I'm going to be wasting an awful lot more time than normal here ...
Is this me or the Ship?
quote:I've cut and pasted your question onto the cafe thread. That way, Melon et al are more likely to see and respond to it.
Originally posted by The Wanderer:
The new layout is working very well for me - but I still can't get into the Cafe. I click on the link, enter my username (which isn't Wanderer IIRC) and password, and nothing else happens. Where am I going wrong?
quote:Should be okay now.
Originally posted by Love the You you hide:
I can't get into private boards anymore... what am I doing wrong please?
quote:Thanks - I did find what I was looking for in Oblivion, and I even found I could use the search facility in there. It's a bit misleading to have the instruction "does not exist" - I nearly gave up!
Originally posted by Curiosity killed ...:
They did exist and have been moved to Limbo or Oblivion. Good luck with finding anything in Oblivion. It's arranged by date of last post on the thread.
? It's not a big thing or even a complaint, I'm just curious.quote:You're not the first, and probably won't be the last, to make that mistake. Go ahead and copy it onto the right thread. However, as it's generated responses and discussion on the "What keeps you going?" thread it would create a bigger mess deleting it now than leaving it there.
Originally posted by SusanDoris:
I'd posted it in the wrong thread. I will copy it and post it in the right place, but could you please delete it from 'What keeps you going?' where it is {#48{
quote:
Access Denied (license_expired)
A license has expired on the Proxy, and your request is not permitted: "The SGOS license has expired" A new license must be obtained.
For assistance, contact your network support team.
quote:Holey moley - I dunno! It came up as on big white screen when I clicked the "Ship of Fools" tag on the toolbar near the top of the screen. I didn't knotice a URL (is that the address thingy?). I don't type in a password I just click the tab. The next page I saw (when clicking on a different tab) was Facebook - but don't tell anyone.
Originally posted by ken:
There must be more to the message than that.
Where is the message appearing? Is it on a web page, or inside the web browser as a pop-up not on a page? Or is it a pop-up on your computer screen but outside the browser?
If it is itself a web page, what is its URL?
Does it come after typing in the SHip password or before? Or at some other time?
What page do you see after the message?
What web browser are you using?
Where are you logging on from?
NB a proxy is a webserver between you and the Internet, so you ask for a page from that server, and it goes and asks for the same page from the next server. There are loads of reasons there might be one - the most common are employers trying to control employee web use, or as one ba way of reducing the number of separate IP addresses needed on a network.
I use Mozilla Firefox and I log on at home. I noticed that the same thing happened when I used kuru's computer, attached though to the same Router. quote:Cool, thanks. My ISP are so bloody slow to answer phones I can't be bothered. Seems okay now anyway.
Originally posted by ken:
FWIW SGOS is an operating system used by a company called Bluecoat who do make proxy servers among other things, and a couple of largish ISPs in New Zealand use them - so the first point of call is whoever is providing your IP connection.
quote:Yes, this has now just happened to me as well.
Originally posted by Mamacita:
Is there any reason why, if one has "notify me of PMs by e-mail" checked in one's Profile, that notification would suddenly stop? I ask because I noticed Jahlove's question on the "Ancient Geek" thread in Heaven. The same thing happened to me in the past week, although I've not made any software or hardware changes as Jahlove had.
code:for the lefthand icon orhttp://forum.ship-of-fools.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?
ubb=get_topic;f=5;t=000268;p=1#000000
code:for the reply with quote.http://forum.ship-of-fools.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?
ubb=reply;f=5;t=000268;replyto=000000
quote:I think you need to contact one of the VM hosts to get the log-in info.
Originally posted by Sir Pellinore (ret'd):
I appear to have 'lost' Via Media.
It's probably my fault. Apart from (mentally) abusing myself here, what can I do?
Sir Pellinore, I've PMed you the link.
quote:So you do. It's all those prurient posts, someone's decided to do away with the foreplay.
Originally posted by Horseman Bree:
When I click in to the "Help! It's 1054 again" thread, the first post I see is Lyda Rose's at #72
quote:Dunno, but I think Pease and Erin are working on it and it should be fixed soon.
Originally posted by geroff:
I have spotted three threads where the first page is page Zero and the OP have disappeared - Help, its 1054, Help, its the 1970s and Admit It, You've missed me - all in Hell. I noticed this yesterday and pmed a Hell host - the 1970s thread returned to normal but its back today.
Is it gremlins or Pirates?
quote:Dunno, but I think Pease and Erin are working on it and it should be fixed soon.
Originally posted by geroff:
I have spotted three threads where the first page is page Zero and the OP have disappeared - Help, its 1054, Help, its the 1970s and Admit It, You've missed me - all in Hell. I noticed this yesterday and pmed a Hell host - the 1970s thread returned to normal but its back today.
Is it gremlins or Pirates?
quote:I sometimes use MSWord with longer posts, but if I'm using any UBB code, Preview Post is still a good idea.
Originally posted by Leetle Masha:
While it's in Microsoft Word, before I paste it in, I can edit it so as not to need Preview Post.
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It's a conspiracy I tell you.
It's VERY frustrating ![[Mad]](angryfire.gif)
quote:Because every so often, we have to go into the secret admin area and 'rebuild stats' or something like that. This reindexes the whole thing so that everything is where the search function thinks it is (as opposed to having been moved, closed, had its number changed due to other threads having been moved or closed etc...). The downside of doing this, is that it shuts the boards down whilst it's happening. And then people complain.
Originally posted by Phil the Bear:
I've not been around here for a bit and thought I'd do a search to see if any of my favourite things had been discussed recently (or ever...) Problem is that the search function found a number of threads, supposedly current(ish) but when I clicked on the thread to read it I was then told "This thread no longer exists" - or words to that effect. I'm just guessing here - but I'd think that the search function actually searches and returns something it genuinely finds - given that's normal for a search function.
So, why then, can't I then access what it finds
quote:Moi? Complain? Heaven forfend!
Originally posted by Viola:
... every so often, we have to go into the secret admin area and 'rebuild stats' or something like that. This reindexes the whole thing so that everything is where the search function thinks it is (as opposed to having been moved, closed, had its number changed due to other threads having been moved or closed etc...). The downside of doing this, is that it shuts the boards down whilst it's happening. And then people complain.
quote:Perhaps this wasn't made clear: the re-indexing is initiated manually, and then not often due to the associated boards down-time.
Originally posted by Phil the Bear:
I waited 24 hours (in which time even the slowest database ought to be able to re-index itself)
quote:my emboldening.
Originally posted by Viola:
Because every so often, we have to go into the secret admin area and 'rebuild stats' or something like that. This reindexes the whole thing so that everything is where the search function thinks it is (as opposed to having been moved, closed, had its number changed due to other threads having been moved or closed etc...). The downside of doing this, is that it shuts the boards down whilst it's happening. And then people complain.
It's a fine balance - complain because the threads are inaccessible by the admittedly eccentric search facility, or complain because the boards are down when you want to do a bit of surfing in your tea break!
quote:Mine (obviously)
Originally posted by Curiosity killed ...:
The thing Phil the Bear might have missed is that this is an international board, and time differences being what they are, somewhere in the world, it's always someone's tea break. (Before Phil the Bear comes back and suggests doing this overnight - whose overnight would you plan on using?)
quote:...because in that particular 24 hour period, nobody with access to the Re-Index Button felt compelled to push it. Still haven't, I'm willing to bet - due to the lack of posts saying OH MY GOD THE SHIP WAS DOWN!
Originally posted by Phil the Bear:
Even if re-indexing is started manually the fact remains that over 24 hours after trying a search I still wasn't getting back the right answer.
quote:AIUI the moving of threads generally and/or when Oblivion was created has generated/does generate such a drift. The remedy apparently is
UBB.classic™ uses a series of files ("metadata" files) to store frequently requested data about members and topics within a forum. From time to time, the information stored in these files may drift out of sync, resulting in occasional errors.
quote:I guess that is why some things now simply don't show up in when the search function is used, and will not do so until the board's next temporary suspension. UBB.Classic™ 6.5.0 is 6 years old now and, I guess, may owe quite a bit to older data handling practices/capabilities.
To rebuild the metadata files, click Rebuild & Reindex...
This same mechanism can be used to rebuild the search index ...
quote:Ha ha ha! This board software is the internet equivalent of Methuselah.
Originally posted by Phil the Bear:
Surely the technology here is a little more advanced?
quote:In that case I shall possess my soul in patience. Thanks.
Originally posted by RooK:
quote:Ha ha ha! This board software is the internet equivalent of Methuselah.
Originally posted by Phil the Bear:
Surely the technology here is a little more advanced?
quote:Try Simon. He may know as it sounds like a website thing rather than an FTP thing.
Originally posted by Gwai:
Hi,
This should be directed to a particular someone, but I'm not sure who. Pease maybe? I am loath to PM it to someone who may be the wrong person and may be not around anyway, so I'll start here:
A shipmate asked to have their picture deleted. I did so. Said shipmate asked me to delete the comments and I have tried but now that the picture is gone, I can't find anything on the ftp to use to delete the comments. Advice?
Thanks,
Gwai,
Photo Mistress
code:which without the return to stop breaking the scroll lock or being shown in code comes out as Youtube link[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=
HpUn9tzwj2E&feature=channel]Youtube link[/url]
quote:If you go into your profile, you will see a link in red type:
Originally posted by Lolly:
Is there a link somewhere on the ship to only clear the ship's cookies? If so, I've not been able to locate it.
quote:I think it would involve an upgrade to a later version of UBB OR a board hack.
Originally posted by RooK:
Sorry about not providing a more timely response. I did a trawl through the control panel looking for available options for the UBB code with the board software - and came up empty-handed. All we can do is turn off images (which we have) or disable HTML (which we also have done). Later versions of UBB code do not seem to be available for a mere Admin to roll out for general Ship use.
quote:Ditto. When it hangs, I've tried switching from Chrome to Firefox, but no joy. Not only on SoF though, I also get the same problem on one of the blogs I frequent. It just hangs on loading the Google ads, so I've assumed that the issue is there, not with the websites. I just close the window, and check in again after five minutes, by which time the problem has invariably gone.
Originally posted by Drifting Star:
I've been having this problem intermittently too.
quote:My problem is that the page freezes so I can't close it.
Originally posted by passer:
quote:Ditto. When it hangs, I've tried switching from Chrome to Firefox, but no joy. Not only on SoF though, I also get the same problem on one of the blogs I frequent. It just hangs on loading the Google ads, so I've assumed that the issue is there, not with the websites. I just close the window, and check in again after five minutes, by which time the problem has invariably gone.
Originally posted by Drifting Star:
I've been having this problem intermittently too.
quote:I'm afraid that there isn't any straightforward way to view pages without the ads... and if there were, we wouldn't tell you.
Originally posted by Tree Bee:
My problem is that the page freezes so I can't close it.
Is there any way of loading pages without the Google ads? (Silly question?!)
quote:I have had this problem as well. However, since I run multiple tabs and multiple programs, I had not definitively linked the problem to SOF.
Originally posted by RooK:
Page freezing so that it won't close sounds irritating. I'd suggest trying Google Chrome browser - theoretically it keeps page processes isolated so that they don't hang other functions.
quote:Indeed. Or why I haven't noticed any change in the loading performance of SOF in some weeks.
Originally posted by lilBuddha:
Switching to a different browser might solve my issues, but would not explain why SOF has changed in its performance.
quote:That's funny: the second-best explanation I can think of for this involves a conspiracy in Redmond WA. Oh well - glad everything is fixed now and that you have nothing to complain about.
Originally posted by Hiro's Leap:
I've had problems on my PC ever since installing Google Chrome, e.g. intermittent page freezes when using other browsers, even if Chrome wasn't open. Uninstalling it fixed everything.
quote:The problems started after an automatic Windows update, but were solved by ditching Chrome.
Originally posted by RooK:
That's funny: the second-best explanation I can think of for this involves a conspiracy in Redmond WA.
Quite possibly true.)
quote:Maybe they thought you were trying to buy quiche.
Originally posted by Leetle Masha:
"You Make Me Feel So Young!"
Just now, when I was signing on, I got a little box-message saying "Age Verification: We do not permit members under 16"!
I logged on again, and the message didn't reappear...sigh. I guess it knows I'm well past my threescore years and ten....
Mary
quote:This has also been happening to me on Ship for several days - I don't know why - and I have an iMac, do you have that or a PC? Is there any difference happening? Do others also have everything red? The yellows showing what posts I've read are still behaving properly.
Originally posted by Horseman Bree:
Another question: today when I opened the boards, none of the thread indexes showed any of the changed colour that indicates which ones I had read before. All of them were red.
Does the ship computer control this, or is it something to do with the cookies on my computer?
Or do I have some other problem within my computer?
This happened once before, about a month ago.
And, no, I didn't clean out all the cookies.
quote:From today, I will NOT be providing technical support for the following problems.
quote:It is sort of, but not quite right. However it totally falls apart when quoting someone who is quoting someone else.
quote:Thank you Pigwidgeon.
Originally posted by Pigwidgeon:
Just click on the quotation mark icon above and to the right the post you want to quote.
quote:There's a description of the usual method of obtaining a custom title in the FAQs.
Originally posted by Angel Wrestler:
How do I get a status? I just figured out what I wanted mine to be ....
quote:
Originally posted by Pigwidgeon:
Just click on the quotation mark icon above and to the right the post you want to quote.
quote:me, too ...
Originally posted by RooK:
quote:There's a description of the usual method of obtaining a custom title in the FAQs.
Originally posted by Angel Wrestler:
How do I get a status? I just figured out what I wanted mine to be ....
code:[url=http://www.and the rest]what you want it to say[/url]
quote:Funny you should ask that. I was wondering if it had been lengthened, because it usually seems more like 2 seconds (make that nano-seconds) than 2 minutes, but a recent attempt to edit, in hope rather than expectation, was successful.
Originally posted by Eutychus:
Am I getting old and slow, or has the edit time been reduced when I wasn't looking?
quote:Thank you for your answer. As far as not knowing whether my answer has already appeared, I find this very seldom happens, as I write from an atheist view point! However, I do mostly read all the way through first.
Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:
It'll go to the post you just posted. The only "short cuts" in the software are too the last post on a thread. You'll have to do it the long way and scroll back up the thread to where you were when you hit "reply with quote" - although if you've already read the rest of the thread there's no need to do so, and if you haven't how do you know your reply hasn't already been posted by someone else?
quote:I'm hoping someone can point out an easier way, but the way I've done
how do you link to a specific post on a thread?
quote:In most browsers, you can right-click on that sheet-of-paper icon and choose "copy this link" or something like that. (It varies from browser to browser.) When you're ready to insert the link, right-click and choose paste.
Originally posted by W Hyatt:
quote:the way I've done it is the following:
how do you link to a specific post on a thread?
After finding the post, look at the "header" section for that particular post. At the very left of the "header" section, there is the "Posted" date and immediately to the left of that is a small icon that looks (to me) like a sheet of paper.
quote:We've recently cleaned up a bunch of threads to Oblivion. It's possible that what you're seeing when you click the link is something that your computer has kept in its cache, while the thread is actually now buried in Oblivion. If you go to the linked thread now and hit "refresh", is it still there?
Originally posted by Horseman Bree:
I copied the link for the "Via Lucis" thread from the "sheet of paper" thingy into an email and sent it to a friend, who replied that the Ship told him that the thread didn't exist. But I was able to click the link from my "sent e-mail" file and it worked. He has an updated computer and uses the same server that I do.
quote:I don't know if this is relevant to you but I use a USB drive with Opera and Firefox portable apps loaded on it so no-one who uses the same computer can see my browsing history, and at internet cafes it also means they can't track my passwords, even with key-loggers, I think. This works only for windows computers.
Originally posted by Silver Faux:
A quick question; has www.google.ca become unavailable from anyone else's computer today?
It is the only way I get to The Ship; I don't want anyone else who uses my computer to know that I visit here, so never bookmark ship-of-fools.com
Now I have to get in through yahoo.ca and that takes an extra click or two!
quote:I think you think partially incorrectly.
Originally posted by Latchkey Kid:
I use a USB drive with Opera and Firefox portable apps loaded on it so no-one who uses the same computer can see my browsing history, and at internet cafes it also means they can't track my passwords, even with key-loggers, I think.
quote:Well, I don't actually type the password as it is auto-completed by Firefox or Opera. Of course, if the auto-completion is done by the browser effectively typing them in, then a key-logger would catch it. An internet search has failed to provide me with a definite answer to this.
Originally posted by RooK:
quote:I think you think partially incorrectly.
Originally posted by Latchkey Kid:
I use a USB drive with Opera and Firefox portable apps loaded on it so no-one who uses the same computer can see my browsing history, and at internet cafes it also means they can't track my passwords, even with key-loggers, I think.
Key-logger: You type it, it has it. Period. There's no circumventing it because it's resident in the processor that is actually interpreting the keystrokes.
Portable Firefox is good for keeping your log files with you, though. Pity I can't port it at work.
quote:I should think that would be stored in a cookie.
Originally posted by Latchkey Kid:
Well, I don't actually type the password as it is auto-completed by Firefox or Opera. Of course, if the auto-completion is done by the browser effectively typing them in, then a key-logger would catch it.
quote:Look harder!
Originally posted by chukovsky:
I have a dim memory of such threads moving to Oblivion but it does not exist there either.
![[Tear]](graemlins/tear.gif)
code:When you use the URL button below the reply window that text will be generated for you. Copy the whole lot to your sig.[URL=http://somesitesomewhere.htm]Site description[/url]
quote:I think you need something like
Originally posted by Evensong:
Thanks for the reply Alan. Can't do it.
Made the link in a normal post
Copied and pasted but no link transfered, just the words...so tried "copy link location" and that didn't work either.
What am I doing wrong?
quote:You can find the whole string for Pagan here if you use the quote button.
Originally posted by Latchkey Kid:
quote:I think you need something like
Originally posted by Evensong:
Thanks for the reply Alan. Can't do it.
Made the link in a normal post
Copied and pasted but no link transfered, just the words...so tried "copy link location" and that didn't work either.
What am I doing wrong?
URL=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqnakuXMG5g]Pagan[/URL]
with an initial square bracket
quote:Once a Private Message is sent, the recipient has a copy. The sender deleting their sent original does not change the message in the recipient's queue, read or unread.
Originally posted by The Silent Acolyte:
Here is a question about how private messages work.
Here is the scenario:Has the system also deleted that private message for the recipient, or does it still exist in his Incoming private messages list?
- I send a private message.
- Events move along so that the private message is no longer pertinent.
- I examine My Profile and see that the private message is Unread by recipient.
- I delete the private message.
- That message no longer appears in my Sent private messages list.
- The recipient of 'my' private message to him now logs onto Ship of Fools.
It doesn't much matter to me one way or the other, but I'm curious what deleting an Unread Private Message actually does.
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quote:I figured it out!
Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:
Here's a little something I wrote in a pdf file. It's linked to in exactly the same way as any other file on the web. As long as your browser is set up to open pdfs (ie: have Acrobat reader or similar installed) it will open, if not it'll probably ask you if you want to save the file or open it with another program. The same is true of, for example, graphics files.
I had to right click on the website link to the pdf file. Then paste into the URL window.
quote:It's not that simple, as you rightly say.
Originally posted by Horseman Bree:
Having left the site and come back, I find the "new posts" indicator to be working OK.
quote:Please post your example post inside of {code} {/code} tags - it should show us what you're trying to do.
Originally posted by Golden Key:
Hi. I've been trying to reply to a PM, and I keep getting the following error:
quote:There isn't any such tag. And IIRC this is a known problem that's occured before.
Sorry, we do not permit the following HTML tag or attribute: Parenthesis in HTML tag
Anything I can do about it???
Thanks!
PS And when I tried to preview this post, it tried to open the preview in *this* window, rather than a separate one, and gave me a blank screen.
code:I changed it to:>This is the person's PM quote that I pasted in.<
And here is my response.
code:*This is the person's PM quote that I pasted in.*
And here is my response.
quote:Board Administration: consider yourself informed. Thanks!
Ouch! An error has occured:
Wide character in syswrite at CGIPath/Modules//Net/Cmd.pm line 429.
Please inform the board administration of this error so that they can abuse the vendor. Thanks!
quote:Erm . . I'm confused. I am trying to post a normal-looking URL in order to link to an outside source. There are no parentheses in the URL, but I keep getting the error message about parentheses referred to above.
Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:
HTML tags are enclosed in < > ... so anything between any such pair would be parsed as HTML code. If that includes ( ) or some other characters it can generate the error you encountered - even though HTML is turned off on the boards.
If you're using those characters to mark quotes and split the quote then you can get that situation.
quote:Has something changed (or been changed)? I send and receive very few private messages (average 3 per year) - I have never got around to clearing old ones but as there is no danger as far as I can see of the box being full this shouldn't matter particularly. For the present purpose, however, it should have everything I have ever sent or received as still visible - according to hostly information.
Originally posted by RooK:
quote:Once a Private Message is sent, the recipient has a copy. The sender deleting their sent original does not change the message in the recipient's queue, read or unread.
Originally posted by The Silent Acolyte:
Here is a question about how private messages work.
Here is the scenario:Has the system also deleted that private message for the recipient, or does it still exist in his Incoming private messages list?
- I send a private message.
- Events move along so that the private message is no longer pertinent.
- I examine My Profile and see that the private message is Unread by recipient.
- I delete the private message.
- That message no longer appears in my Sent private messages list.
- The recipient of 'my' private message to him now logs onto Ship of Fools.
It doesn't much matter to me one way or the other, but I'm curious what deleting an Unread Private Message actually does.
quote:As far as I remember whatever it is that says 'send new private message' at the top. But as I do it so rarely I could have got it wrong I would have to admit. In the case of the message sent to me, I wouldn't know how the sender did it. But thanks for your reply!
Originally posted by Eutychus:
Are you sure you didn't send an e-mail via the Ship, rather than a PM?
quote:Probably because the link you selected actually passed you through to another page which then redirected you to the one you wanted. So going "back" returned you to the one that sent you away in the first place, IYSWIM.
Originally posted by SusanDoris:
... I then clicked on the back arrow to go to the previous page, but couldn't ...
quote:Because when you click on a link it opens a new window. As it's a new window, there's nothing to go back to, so the back button won't work.
Originally posted by SusanDoris:
I clicked on a link ('dogma free' in a post of Yorick's near the end of the 'What should Christians tell their children?' thread) and it went to a page with a cartoon. I then clicked on the back arrow to go to the previous page, but couldn't (so closed that page and started again!), but I would be grateful if someone could tell me why this happened, please.
quote:Thank you for your answer. Would this passing through have been so fast that it was invisible to me?
Originally posted by ken:
Probably because the link you selected actually passed you through to another page which then redirected you to the one you wanted
quote:Does that mean that if I'd clicked twice - very quickly?! - I'd have gone back to SoF?
So going "back" returned you to the one that sent you away in the first place, IYSWIM.
quote:
Yes, and I do currently have 31 tabs open in 7 windows in 3 browsers - I just counted!
quote:Could be, yes. Though if you watch the address bar carefully, sometimes you might see the flicker of the in-between address.
Originally posted by SusanDoris:
Would this passing through have been so fast that it was invisible to me?
quote:Possibly. A more reliable method is to use your browser history to go back to the specific page you're interested in.
Does that mean that if I'd clicked twice - very quickly?! - I'd have gone back to SoF?
quote:Some Shippies can be reached by e-mail, via the Boards. Could try this, if available?
Originally posted by Caissa:
I was interested in joining a private board. I sent a pm to the person identified on Oct 18th and according to my account the pm lies unread. Any suggestions?
quote:I don't know if it would affect your Private Messages, but I notice that you're an Apprentice with one post to go before becoming a Shipmate. I don't think you can join a private board until you're a Shipmate.
Originally posted by Caissa:
I was interested in joining a private board. I sent a pm to the person identified on Oct 18th and according to my account the pm lies unread. Any suggestions?
quote:Nope, you're an apprentice until you have more than 50 posts.
Originally posted by Caissa:
Okay. I guess I must be a shipmate now.
quote:What web browser are you using? Generic instructions for Firefox click Tools, then Options, then click the privacy tab to see if cookies are being deleted after the session or if it's set to keep cookies.
Originally posted by SusanDoris:
Firenze (on he 'pedia' thread in Heaven) suggests checking cookies, but I'll have to get help on that I think.
quote:Undoubtedly more indexing leaks in our creaky old Ship. Hopefully this particular error will be written-over with a new parsing. If it persists, flag it up and we'll try an actual re-index.
Originally posted by Lamb Chopped:
What the heck is going on?
quote:You know, stuff happens.
Originally posted by geroff:
My purple penguin perforator has punctured My Pretty Pony!
quote:PS: Google cache to the rescue - still in Heaven when it last crawled there on 10 August, and the last post was in June.
Originally posted by Qoheleth.:
Is the Ship's search function even more broken than usual? Searching Oblivion for "God" returns nothing - which may be true theologically, but not bibliographically.
I'm actually trying to locate the "my first smartphone" thread, formerly in Heaven. A Certain Well-known Search Engine tells me it's still in there, but I suspect it's been Obliterated recently, and the WKSE hasn't/can't/won't access Oblivion.
Any sightings, please?
quote:
... even mighty Google's webcrawlers tend to focus mostly on corners of the web that actually have traffic. Oblivion is not such a place
code:[url=http://...........]my blog[/url]
quote:Read a few threads, then close Firefox and reopen it. The option will have returned.
Originally posted by Chamois:
I've just downloaded Firefox onto my new mac. The 'jump to new posts" option at the top of each thread has disappeared. Does anyone know how I can get it back?
quote:Marvin, thanks for the advice, but it hasn't worked. None of the threads I've read show the 'jump to new posts' link.
Originally posted by Marvin the Martian:
quote:Read a few threads, then close Firefox and reopen it. The option will have returned.
Originally posted by Chamois:
I've just downloaded Firefox onto my new mac. The 'jump to new posts" option at the top of each thread has disappeared. Does anyone know how I can get it back?
It decides which posts are old and which are new based on your browser history, and as far as your new browser is concerned they're all new right now.
quote:Gosh, ya think?
Originally posted by Chamois:
Could it be caused by having the "no tracking" option enabled?
quote:test
Originally posted by Moo:
That has happened to me twice, without my making any changes, and has corrected itself twice, also without my making changes.
Moo
quote:You mean with the 'small' tags? Yes, but only when H&A day was on. I suspect it was related to the 'message buggered about' message replacing the normal 'messaged edited' one.
Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
quote:test
Originally posted by Moo:
That has happened to me twice, without my making any changes, and has corrected itself twice, also without my making changes.
Moo
Huh.
OK, see what happened to the bottom of the post here? Is this happening to anyone else?
quote:It's not a permanent problem, because it will only affect quotes of messages that were edited during H&A day.
Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
So it's something that still needs to be cleaned up? Because I quoted that about 30 seconds before I linked it here.
or is it just the changes working their way through the system?
quote:Just checked -- it works for me (using Internet Explorer).
Originally posted by A.Pilgrim:
I found out a while ago that one can find out the number of a post within a thread (in order to link to that specific post) by hovering the cursor over the small 'page' symbol in the top left of the post heading. It used to work, but recently I've found that I no longer get the sequential number, but just a hyphen '-' (without the quotes) symbol. Does this happen for other shipmates (indicating a change in Ship software) or do others still get the number (indicating perhaps a browser problem for me)?
Thanks
Angus
)quote:Someone might correct this, but I *think* cookies only affect logging in, and whether a page shows as having new unread entries. The actual loading of pages wouldn't be affected. I think.
Originally posted by SusanDoris:
In all Saints, in the Face Book thread, no prophet mentions setting up computer to delete cookies at the end of every session. How does this affect speed of getting on to a page in SoF please?
quote:I have accessed the Ship over slow connections as well, and it works rather good (although I can forget about the two minutes edit window).
The Silent Acolyte: Allow me to use this 46.6kb modem over a rural POTS line to tell you folk what a delightfully snappy lil web site y'all got.
This text-heavy, graphics-light BBS blows the doors off the competition.
quote:Yep, as I said: Your sig-less affliction here has just been replicated by me here and - with sig, because already logged in! - with my earlier post just there.
Originally posted by ChaliceGirl:
Now it's showing up...but it doesn't always..
Um..OK?
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quote:Are the PCs at school also Macs?!
Originally posted by Sir Kevin:
I have an iMac: I can never ever get on to the Ship's Cafe on it, but I have no trouble on the PCs at school. Is there a fault in somebody's software?
quote:Reporting the incident as ordered!
Ouch! An error has occured:
Unable to connect to the SMTP server. The following error was returned: Connection refused
The server either does not exist, or rejected the connection.
Please ensure that the UBB is allowed to relay mail through the server.
Please inform the board administration of this error so that they can abuse the vendor. Thanks!
quote:It's a Chrome feature that you will be glad of if you ever accidentally click to a page that auto-generates many tabs of ads.
Originally posted by LeRoc:
Since today, when I want to put a link in a post using the URL button, there is a new box that asks me (in Portuguese) "Prevent this page from creating additional dialogue boxes."
Is this something new? Or is it a Chrome thing?
quote:It's probably worse now that more posts are kept on line.
Originally posted by Marvin the Martian:
It's due to the way the software displays post counts. Your post count will update correctly on the board to which you posted last, but it may take some time to filter through to the other boards. Those other boards will - for a short time - show your post count as it was when you last posted to them. The more prolific a poster you are, the greater the difference may become before the software catches up.
The same thing happens with signatures, by the way. If you change your sig, for a short while you will see the old sig at the bottom of your posts on boards you haven't posted to since the change.
As far as I know, it has always been thus. This one isn't directly due to the age of the boards, though that may well be a factor in how quickly they manage to catch up with your posts.
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quote:That certainly means that reindexing the boards (which fixes these sort of problems) takes considerably longer.
Originally posted by Sioni Sais:
It's probably worse now that more posts are kept on line.
quote:I've been getting this message frequently and randomly when I click on boards, threads, go to make an answer, or use the back button. Its taken me 7 goes to be able to post this message (this is the first of those goes where I've got to the Post a Reply screen). Its been going on for about 2 weeks now.
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quote:Nope, looks pretty rooted.
Originally posted by St Deird:
...Just me?
quote:It's the top 7 threads in Purg, the top 3 in Eccles and the top 1 in Heaven. I don't know how often it refreshes, but hourly is certainly plausible.
Originally posted by passer:
I thought it was a managed feed, to exclude Hell and possible bad language, so presumably it's a batch job to do the extract, every hour or some-such.
quote:Weird. There might be something in the "Coming soon" page that's causing your browser to freeze, though I'm not sure what that would be.
Originally posted by Pigwidgeon:
For a while now, after I hit "Add reply" I get the usual message of "Coming soon: your deep and meaningful thoughts in print." But then that message never goes away. My deep and meaningful thoughts are posted, but the screen just doesn't change. I have to open the Ship in another tab and window to continue.
quote:I don't have this problem with any other page or website. I can click on the thread name to get back to my post -- I just don't know how long to wait to be sure it's posted. So I can never edit my post once it's up; I just have to proof carefully before posting. Not a major problem, just a bit vexing.
Originally posted by Marvin the Martian:
quote:Weird. There might be something in the "Coming soon" page that's causing your browser to freeze, though I'm not sure what that would be.
Originally posted by Pigwidgeon:
For a while now, after I hit "Add reply" I get the usual message of "Coming soon: your deep and meaningful thoughts in print." But then that message never goes away. My deep and meaningful thoughts are posted, but the screen just doesn't change. I have to open the Ship in another tab and window to continue.
Is your browser set up to not allow a page to automatically redirect to another, or something? If you click on the thread name in the "Coming soon" page will it take you there, or does the whole tab stop working?
quote:I'll try that.
Originally posted by Drifting Star:
I think you're OK to click on it as soon as it appears - speaking as someone with no patience (for websites) who always clicks rather than waiting.
quote:If you see the "Coming Soon" page at all, it's posted.
Originally posted by Pigwidgeon:
I can click on the thread name to get back to my post -- I just don't know how long to wait to be sure it's posted.
quote:I thought this was always the way that this (and many other boards) worked. After you've just made a post, the logical page you would go 'back' to is the page where you wrote the post. I don't know why you would expect it to go all the way back to the thread list, because that has to be at least 3 pages prior.
Originally posted by Gee D:
Another recent problem. A post will appear Ok, but when I hit the back button to return to the menu for the particular board, I get a drop down box asking if I want to send a for again. When this happened the first time, I clicked Yes and there was a double post. Now I click cancel, open a new screen and make my way back to the Ship's boards.
Are others having this problem? I use Safari, and there was an update the other day.
quote:This started happening to me a while ago. I used to hit the 'Community' button at the top of the screen to get back. Very annoying because I often missed the edit window.
Originally posted by Pigwidgeon:
For a while now, after I hit "Add reply" I get the usual message of "Coming soon: your deep and meaningful thoughts in print." But then that message never goes away. My deep and meaningful thoughts are posted, but the screen just doesn't change. I have to open the Ship in another tab and window to continue.
quote:It wasn't us who changed - it must have been the Safari update.
Originally posted by Gee D:
It's just that there has been a change, and not for the better.
The voice said 67%, and I realised that it was saing the figure at the bottom right-hand corner of the screen. I'd never thought of that, so I changed it back to 100%.... and am keeping my fingers crossed! All seems well so far.
quote:Tablets preclude the use of Java SE - so no joy there, unless or until there was a tech change to how the cafe worked.
Originally posted by Chocoholic:
I've tried getting into the cafe on my ipad but it keeps trying to open a Dropbox file.
Is it possible to open the cafe on a tablet?
(Apologies if this is an old query, I tried to search for an answer but couldn't find one)
quote:Ctrl+Shift+Up arrow highlights all the way to the top of the selected paragraph in Internet Explorer. Shift+Home works to highlight a single line once the cursor is placed at the end.
Originally posted by SusanDoris:
For all the years I've been using a computer, to highlight and then copy or delete a line, or a paragraph when, for instance, composing posts, I have put the cursor at the end, then done Control+Shift+up arrow. This has highlighted the part I want. Now when I do that, on any window on the internet as far as I can see, everything above that line is highlighted. I have tried a test in the UB Practice thread, which failed.
If anyone has any solution, I would be most grateful.
quote:Thank you very much for your help. Re the Ctrl Shift Up Arrow, I think there must be a glitch in my IE then, because I've just tried it on an edit area like this and it highlighted right to the top.
Originally posted by Marvin the Martian:
Ctrl+Shift+Up arrow highlights all the way to the top of the selected paragraph in Internet Explorer. Shift+Home works to highlight a single line once the cursor is placed at the end.
So, fingers crossed, that's one problem solved.
quote:Wasn't just you, I couldn't get in either.
I noticed it as well. Doubting the "reassuring" message I might have, survive I did. Though my keepers now bear mental scars beyond the most twisted existential imaginings. Two needed to be restrained themselves. Not quite sure I quite trust the one who seemed to manage unscathed.
quote:OK lets try again, having completely screwed up my last post by editing it to include the post I thought I was referring to, but it turned out that another one had snuck in since I started writing, so copying the last post on the previous page didn't do the trick!
Originally posted by Taliesin:
All afternoon, the ship was offline... or was it just me? It said closed for maintenance.
you WILL survive!
but since there is no comment here, I'm wondering if it was just me.
quote:We've been having to do a lot of reindexing and rebuilding lately. You may notice Oblivion has been pruned in an effort to make it less of an albatross around our necks, for example. Just some of the behind-the-scenes stuff that has to be done to keep this old boat sailing.
Originally posted by Lamb Chopped:
Me three, but at least five times today and yesterday--and usually "fixed" again within five seconds to five minutes. Very weird. (Might have been an Unknown Force preventing me from posting garbage)
quote:If that force worked reliably, my post count would be much lower.
Originally posted by Lamb Chopped:
(Might have been an Unknown Force preventing me from posting garbage)
quote:The nautical term is "jetsam".
Originally posted by Marvin the Martian:
quote:We've been having to do a lot of reindexing and rebuilding lately. You may notice Oblivion has been pruned in an effort to make it less of an albatross around our necks, for example. Just some of the behind-the-scenes stuff that has to be done to keep this old boat sailing.
Originally posted by Lamb Chopped:
Me three, but at least five times today and yesterday--and usually "fixed" again within five seconds to five minutes. Very weird. (Might have been an Unknown Force preventing me from posting garbage)
quote:Unfortunately at the moment the Ship doesn't have access to an off server archive so they're gone forever. Sorry.
Originally posted by Sioni Sais:
quote:The nautical term is "jetsam".
Originally posted by Marvin the Martian:
quote:We've been having to do a lot of reindexing and rebuilding lately. You may notice Oblivion has been pruned in an effort to make it less of an albatross around our necks, for example. Just some of the behind-the-scenes stuff that has to be done to keep this old boat sailing.
Originally posted by Lamb Chopped:
Me three, but at least five times today and yesterday--and usually "fixed" again within five seconds to five minutes. Very weird. (Might have been an Unknown Force preventing me from posting garbage)
On a serious note have the pruned threads been archived so that come the Great Day on which a shiny new Ship of Fools sets sail, they can be restored to a complete(ish) and searchable Oblivion?
quote:Ideally there would have been an announcement so people could have saved their favourite threads. In this instance, it wasn't possible and I'm sorry for that. I'll unpack this a bit more tomorrow when I'm not out and about and only able to access on my phone.
Originally posted by passer:
You misunderstand, or perhaps I'm insufficiently precise. The threads I've lost were already in Oblivion, unfortunately. However, thank you for responding - I guess I shall just have to lump it.
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quote:Your link contains an extra piece of code, try this one. There's also a link to Oblivion on the front page of Limbo. You gave me a horrible fright btw.
Originally posted by passer:
Thanks - I understand. Can you provide a link to the new board intro update please - I can't find it.
For clarity, may I assume that Limbo threads are effectively secure for the time being?
For info, at the moment I seem to be unable to access board 70 (using this address. I get a return of "no such thread number exists", as you will see. Without a start thread number, I can't navigate, obviously. Does this mean that I need to have some index knowledge before I can proceed, or is the board currently locked?
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quote:There are no plans to delete any threads from Limbo. If that ever changes, there will be plenty of notice.
It's not exactly appropriate to say a breezy "Hi and welcome to Oblivion!" so we won't. Old threads come here when they're dead and gone. They range from mildly interesting to terminally dull. Feel free to browse, but don't say we didn't warn you. Oblivion does get tidied up occasionally, so if you want to keep your favourite thread forever, save it locally.. If you'd rather look at threads which the hosts picked out for their intelligence and wit, click here for Limbo. Please note: you cannot post messages on any of the threads here – they have been archived for reading only.
quote:What's going on? Can someone choose to not be quoted?
This is none of your business. Go away.
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quote:
Originally posted by QLib:
cute puppy links
quote:That is truly funny.
Originally posted by Eutychus:
An extra special encouragement to preview post?
It's still here on Firefox/Windows 7.
Everything is cool on my iPhone as well. quote:Malwarebytes - demo (fully functioning) version is free. Make sure you download it from their website.
Originally posted by Alaric the Goth:
I'm getting a ridiculous number of 'pop-up' adverts today including one or two that look distinctly dodgy. One of these is offering 'Tech support' to stop pop-up ads (!!), which looks very suspicious. Any advice? (I've run various Norton security checks)
quote:Thank you. Ah, well, I'll cross my fingers and hope that it will have sorted itself out by tomorrow!!
Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:
First guess, Word is auto-replacing what you type with special characters that the software here doesn't recognise.
quote:
Originally posted by Enoch:
1. Am I right in thinking this is a misuse not just of Private Messages but of the Ship?
2. Have others had the same sort of message? and
3. Is there anything more I need to do about this?
quote:The Ship's software has decided it doesn't like you. No technical reason for it; it's just cranky like that.
Originally posted by North East Quine:
Something has gone wrong with my e-mail address and as a result I am transferring everything to a new e-mail address.
When I attempted to change my e-mail address in my Ship profile, I got a message saying that my new address was not acceptable because it "must contain an @ sign." It does contain an @ sign, so what is the problem?
quote:Not sure what profile link you're clicking but I can see my PMs if I click on the "My Profile" link underneath Post A Reply and next to the Directory, Search, FAQs and Board Home link at the top of the page.
Originally posted by jacobsen:
How do I access my pms when on the Ship? I couldn't find any indication from my profile page, and have to go back into my email to use the link mailed to me. When a new message comes in, of course there's no problem, but sometimes I just want to re-read something whilst already logged in.
quote:Come to think of it, I've never seen Bill Gates and Uncle Pete at the same time... DUN DUN DUNNN.
Originally posted by Welease Woderwick:
I think I may blame Bill Gates, either him or Uncle Pete.
quote:What web browser are you using on the tablet. Some of them will not remember or not log in if you are on "incognito mode" or doing "private browsing".
Originally posted by Welease Woderwick:
This morning my Android Tablet decided to log me out of The Ship and won't let me log back in again - indeed it denies I exist! I have checked in the mirror and I'm pretty sure I'm really here. This Desktop PC has no such problems hence me posting this.
Anyone got any ideas?
[Using the Desktop involves standing up and walking into another room and my knees are already having a bad day.]
quote:Assuming you are using Chrome.*
Originally posted by Welease Woderwick:
I also have no idea how to clear Android cookies
quote:Absolutely.
I love humanity, it's people I can't stand!
quote:If you click where it says "Posts" at the bottom of your post, it will open a list of your last 50 posts. Then you can click on any of them.
Originally posted by SusanDoris:
Could someone please tell me if I can link back to a post to which I have responded without hunting for it? Thank you.
code:If you can remember either the thread name or something distinctive word you used in your post, then better still."SusanDoris" site:forum.ship-of-fools.com
quote:Thank you, but I mean is there any way I can link back to the person's post I'm replying to, the 'Originally posted by....'.
Originally posted by Pigwidgeon:
quote:If you click where it says "Posts" at the bottom of your post, it will open a list of your last 50 posts. Then you can click on any of them.
Originally posted by SusanDoris:
Could someone please tell me if I can link back to a post to which I have responded without hunting for it? Thank you.
quote:I'm really sorry - I'm obviously not explaining properly. I went back to your post, clicked on 'reply with quote' and arrived at this edit area. When I post this, is there a way I can click on something where it will say 'Originally posted by Alan cresswell' to link me back to your post I am quoting?
Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:
To the top left of each post (next to the "Posted date/time") there is a little "sheet of paper" icon. That is a link to that particular post, so right click and select "copy link address" (or equivalent, depending on the browser you use) and you'll have a URL you can insert into your post.
quote:
Originally posted by SusanDoris:
quote:I'm really sorry - I'm obviously not explaining properly. I went back to your post, clicked on 'reply with quote' and arrived at this edit area. When I post this, is there a way I can click on something where it will say 'Originally posted by Alan cresswell' to link me back to your post I am quoting?
Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:
To the top left of each post (next to the "Posted date/time") there is a little "sheet of paper" icon. That is a link to that particular post, so right click and select "copy link address" (or equivalent, depending on the browser you use) and you'll have a URL you can insert into your post.
quote:I'm sure WikiLeaks has already alerted them.
Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:
Yes. Tubbs is using a private server. Do we need to contact the FBI?
quote:The official submission form for custom avatars and titles is handled by Captain Simon directly, which tends to be somewhat slow to manifest. We assume that he hands off the request to his personal artisanal software specialist who renders a high-resolution brush-and-ink hand scripting of the title, as well as an arial shot of the avatar image reproduced using 40x40 coloured blocks of marble each the size of a house.
Originally posted by Nick Tamen:
Picking up on the subject of custom avatars, I put in for a custom avatar and custom title 9 days ago, but neither has shown up yet. I got a receipt, so the payment seems to have gone through. Just wondering when they might be processed.
quote:Can't they use Legos?
Originally posted by RooK:
We assume that he hands off the request to his personal artisanal software specialist who renders a high-resolution brush-and-ink hand scripting of the title, as well as an arial shot of the avatar image reproduced using 40x40 coloured blocks of marble each the size of a house.
quote:Well, aside from the copyright issues, it denies them their excuse to use their vintage cold war surplus military aerial surveillance plane.
Originally posted by Pigwidgeon:
Can't they use Legos?
quote:Your new looks appears to have arrived. Spiffy. I like.
Originally posted by Nick Tamen:
Many thanks, and obviously it's not a huge deal. (Well, not to me, at least; I'm sure it's a big deal to whoever has to manage the blocks of marble.) Just wondering, and trying to think about something—anything—other than the events of the last few days.
quote:I clicked on your board name, the clicked on View Recent Posts just above the blue bar and voila!
Originally posted by Pangolin Guerre:
Probably a straightforward question.
In my previous incarnation, I was able to pull up my recent posts. I seem not to be able to do it now. I thought that I used to do it through my profile. I've poked around, and find myself chasing my tail.
Thoughts (and not about tail chasing)?
, but... quote:Am I alone in thinking that Google has stuck its nose just a little bit too far into my personal habits?
Originally posted by Spike:
We have no control over what appears in the ads in the sidebar. They are generated by Google based on keywords in your posts.
quote:Perhaps. However, ads may generate revenue for the entity displaying the ad, but they generate revenue for the advertiser only if someone purchases the product advertised. Personally, I ignore all ads displayed on websites. They're just part of "humanity's mad inhuman noise" (as Henry Higgins said in My Fair Lady) that we have to put up with all the time.
Originally posted by Curiosity killed ...:
the Ship needs the revenue from the adverts
quote:I'm getting Thai women... My mind boggles at my searching and browsing history that caused that to come up... I'm not planning a holiday to SE Asia and, honestly, I find men more attractive.
Originally posted by Golden Key:
I was on the "Three Word Story" Circus thread just now, when what to my wondering eyes should appear but an ad for "Hot Russian Women"!
quote:The algorithm used by Google doesn't just monitor what we read on the Ship. At least, I assume not. For example, working in Fukushima I made some Ukrainian and Russian friends, who are now Facebook friends. I starting seeing ads here for "hot Ukrainian/Russian women" almost immediately after making them FB friends, which can't be a coincidence (also, totally not getting it right for the sort of thing I might be interested in).
Originally posted by lilBuddha:
Given the likely limited time available to whoever here is responsible for tightening the bolts and lashing the sails (pease?), just be thankful it isn't porn. Or worse, given the topics we discuss at times.
quote:I think it a safe assumption, and not overly paranoid, to consider they monitor everything they can.
Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:
The algorithm used by Google doesn't just monitor what we read on the Ship. At least, I assume not.
quote:They even spy on my through my microwave.
Originally posted by lilBuddha:
quote:I think it a safe assumption, and not overly paranoid, to consider they monitor everything they can.
Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:
The algorithm used by Google doesn't just monitor what we read on the Ship. At least, I assume not.
quote:I just did a few minutes ago. I'm out of town, but Google immediately opened to where I am, practically pinpointing my hotel (probably because there's a microwave oven in my hotel room).
Originally posted by Amanda B. Reckondwythe:
It's certainly sobering to realize that they've got the earth's entire surface under surveillance. Don't think so? Have you accessed Google Maps lately?
quote:
Originally posted by Gee D:
The microwave's actually there to read your thoughts, then make any changes deemed necessary.
quote:People posting positive things about Trump do not have thoughts to read.
Originally posted by Pigwidgeon:
quote:
Originally posted by Gee D:
The microwave's actually there to read your thoughts, then make any changes deemed necessary.
If anyone sees me post anything positive about Trump, please come shoot me!
quote:...or maybe just unplug the microwave?
Originally posted by Pigwidgeon:
quote:
Originally posted by Gee D:
The microwave's actually there to read your thoughts, then make any changes deemed necessary.
If anyone sees me post anything positive about Trump, please come shoot me!
quote:Pity Trump doesn't use a microwave. He certainly has enough thoughts that need adjusting.
Originally posted by lilBuddha:
quote:People posting positive things about Trump do not have thoughts to read.
Originally posted by Pigwidgeon:
quote:
Originally posted by Gee D:
The microwave's actually there to read your thoughts, then make any changes deemed necessary.
If anyone sees me post anything positive about Trump, please come shoot me!
quote:Apologies. All the financial features are handled personally by the Captain and his pet SysAdmin. Also, I do not have write access to the image database if you were also interested in a custom avatar. However, if you PM me a somewhat more brief Custom Title, I can make that happen for you. As long as you don't mind me intentionally spelling it wrong or accidentally changing your avatar to something similar to a Georgia O'Keeffe.
Originally posted by simontoad:
I'm trying to purchase a custom title "President of the Universe I am so Great there has never been so fantastic and great a President as me and I've been saying that for a long time" but after going past the credit card option screen it tells me to fop off and gives me a 404 file not found error. I tried it a few days ago using the Aussie dollars option, and just now using the default GBP option.
I shall send PM with non-Trump related title.
