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Posted by Simon (# 1) on :
 
We’re building a new Ship of Fools, and we’re hoping you can help make it happen.

The new ship is going to have three main sections: a blog for comment and comedy; the bulletin boards, running on a completely new system; and the Mystery Worshipper, which will be much more interactive than before.

Choosing new software to run the boards was one of the most important decisions in launching the new ship. The Admins and editors trialled and then decided on Vanilla, which is free, open source forum software. It integrates exceptionally well with WordPress (the platform we’re going to use for the new ship) and it offers easy browsing and posting whether you’re viewing on desktop, tablet or smartphone.

At the same time, we’re upgrading the ship’s logo, slimming down the huge amount of content we have, and concentrating on the things we do best. The ship is basically getting ready for a new voyage, and we hope you’ll be with us in this exciting new venture.

We’ve opened a new site, Shipyard of Fools, where you can help us raise the money for rebuilding the ship. We need £2,500 to do the work. Our shipmates have always been amazingly supportive, and we’ve never run out of what we need to keep going in the almost 20 years we’ve been online. Please visit the Shipyard here:

https://shipyard.shipoffools.com

You’ll also find there some news items which give more details about the new boards and the new ship.

I’ll post more details about the launch as it gets closer. Thanks for reading, and thanks for your support.
 

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Posted by Simon (# 1) on :
 
For more details about the new boards, including comments from your favourite Admins, see this news story on the Shipyard site.
 

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Posted by no prophet's flag is set so... (# 15560) on :
 
Donation amounts are only in £ ?
Thanks.
 

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Posted by Simon (# 1) on :
 
Yes, sorry about that. But it shouldn’t be a problem making a payment. Just check a currency converter so you know how much you’re donating. Thanks.
 

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Posted by Pigwidgeon (# 10192) on :
 
A new Ship? But my grandmother donated the chandeliers on the old Ship!

 

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Posted by Pigwidgeon (# 10192) on :
 

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Originally posted by no prophet's flag is set so...:
Donation amounts are only in £ ?
Thanks.

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Originally posted by Rossweisse:
Will we need to re-register (since I see that registration opens next month)? And will there still be private boards?

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I was going to ask the same question!

Donation made. Will you be selling off artifacts from the old ship?
 

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Posted by Simon (# 1) on :
 
Yes, everyone will need to re-register. We’re going to open registration exclusively to existing board members first, so that everyone here has the opportunity to register with their specific board details. There will probably be a week for that process, before we open the boards to the public.

And yes, the existing private boards will be available on the new boards, with the same arrangement for access and moderation.
 

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Posted by kingsfold (# 1726) on :
 
Simon,

Please empty your PM box - I've just tried to contact you re a possible system glitch!
 

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Posted by Doublethink. (# 1984) on :
 
Really glad this is happening, have chipped in. It looks like you are hoping to be in In time for Christmas
 

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Posted by Simon (# 1) on :
 
Try again, kingsfold... should be OK now.
 

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Posted by TonyK (# 35) on :
 
Willingly chipped in!

Looking forward to the new boards.
 

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Posted by Stejjie (# 13941) on :
 
I've been rubbish at donating to the floating fund, so I've chipped in with this - really looking forward to the new boards (though I'll miss the old ship... sniffle...
 

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Posted by Nicolemr (# 28) on :
 
Will the old ship boards, especially Limbo and Glory, continue to be archived and available to read?

I'll see about donating tonight.
 

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Posted by Schroedinger's cat (# 64) on :
 

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Originally posted by Simon:
Yes, everyone will need to re-register. We’re going to open registration exclusively to existing board members first, so that everyone here has the opportunity to register with their specific board details. There will probably be a week for that process, before we open the boards to the public.

And yes, the existing private boards will be available on the new boards, with the same arrangement for access and moderation.

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Originally posted by Nicolemr:
Will the old ship boards, especially Limbo and Glory, continue to be archived and available to read?

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That is the plan. A fresh start, but building on what has been achieved here and not forgetting the history that has made us who we are.
 

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Posted by churchgeek (# 5557) on :
 
I have a suggestion for the shiphyard: Mention early on that the donation goes through Paypal. I almost put it off because I'm at home relaxing and don't have my credit card on me. Also, when you have to enter your name and email before knowing what the payment method/options will be, sometimes I just skip it.

I love the idea of being able to save a post - although that will pose its own problems on boards that move as quickly as the SoF boards do! But it'll be great for folks to save as they go if they're composing something thoughtful, especially if they have to jump up or leave the site to check a reference.

Anyway, donation made!
 

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Posted by churchgeek (# 5557) on :
 
I do have a question, though - will we also lose our avatars?
 

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Posted by Miffy (# 1438) on :
 
Will we not be able to keep our original registration dates? I go back over 15 years; I don’t want to lose my status as an elder of the community!

[ 18. November 2017, 22:06: Message edited by: Miffy ]
 

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Posted by Nicolemr (# 28) on :
 
Donation made. Glad to hear that Limbo and Glory will still be readable.
 

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Posted by Golden Key (# 1468) on :
 
Question: why not just transfer our member numbers over?

Thx.
 

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Posted by Rossweisse (# 2349) on :
 
Yes, is there a reason we can't just be transferred over as is? I'm concerned about my avatar, too.
 

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Posted by RooK (# 1852) on :
 
Avatar images are absolutely transferrable.

The new Ship doesn't have member numbers, so they're moot.
 

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Posted by Patdys (# 9397) on :
 
I appreciate you do not spam your members emails.
This improvement may be worth mentioning to the entire member base- not as a monetary request per se, but a reminder that things are changing.

And what possibly could go on the 'what is your deeply unpopular opinion thread'- is it time to give second chances to those who request them?

I suspect there would be very few- and clearly they need to be considered case by case.

And may I please continue to be a RooK annoyer on the new ship- it still amuses me.

And for our Aussie shippies, double the pound is roughly our conversion.
 

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Posted by Marvin the Martian (# 4360) on :
 

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And may I please continue to be a RooK annoyer on the new ship- it still amuses me.

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Try again, kingsfold... should be OK now.

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Originally posted by Sipech:
What does it mean when you say that the Mystery Worshipper will be more interactive?

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Originally posted by Rossweisse:
Yes, is there a reason we can't just be transferred over as is?

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The tech folks looked at the possibility of just transferring everything into new software - rather they looked for it and found it doesn't exist. So we're starting over. I for one am happy to trade being member number 13 for increased ease of reading and posting in my phone. And a search function that both searches and functions!

Seriously, the new software is better. Way better.
 

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Posted by Hedgehog (# 14125) on :
 
Chipped in. Although I won't know until I see my credit card bill just how much I chipped in!

[ 19. November 2017, 16:51: Message edited by: Hedgehog ]
 

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Posted by Stercus Tauri (# 16668) on :
 

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Avatar images are absolutely transferrable.

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Originally posted by no prophet's flag is set so...:
Vanilla is written in the same computer language as the current (as far as I can tell, UBB.classic is replaced with UBB.Threads quite a while back), and both can run on the same platform, so the import of old forum to new should be straightforward.

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Originally posted by RooK:
Avatar images are absolutely transferrable.

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Same system, or can we bring our own?

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Originally posted by RooK:
The new Ship doesn't have member numbers, so they're moot.

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Originally posted by Robert Armin:
How will new comers recognise I'm a Very Important Old Fart?

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Originally posted by no prophet's flag is set so...:
IMHO GPL is kind of like Jesus, there for everyone, free as in freedom.

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Originally posted by Sipech:
What does it mean when you say that the Mystery Worshipper will be more interactive?

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My understanding -- although I have not seen a prototype -- is that reporters will post their reports directly, subject to editing. I suspect this will enable them to appear on-line more rapidly, although you must admit that at present (unlike previously) there is never a lag of more than two weeks.

I also understand that reports will be searchable, which at present they are not.

Also, reporters may, if they wish, include a brief personal bio (strictly optional).

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OK, first thing to note is that I am definitely aiming to copy across all the MW reports. But the inner-workings of the old ship are quite barnacle-encrusted, and cleaning the data us is q little bit tricky. We are getting there though.

Secondly, on being "more interactive", I think what is meant here is that applying to be a Mystery Wosrhipper and submitting reports will be performed using a nice set of easy-to-use, web-based forms.

When you register to be a worshipper, you will need to be approved, but as soon as you are you will have a profile and login to the MW's special area of the website.

When a MW submits a report, this creates a new report in the system, emails an admin/moderator to get them to review it, and as soon as they do they can click "publish" and go live.

The old reports are also stored as HTML files - just lumps of text. Which means we can't really process the data, crunch the numbers, and do interesting things with the information in the reports. Don't worry - we're not about to go all Facebook on you and start selling your every last detail to make money!

But this will allow us to categorise and summarise information about the reports. So, for example, we can automatically create a list of all reports for a given denomination, or diocese; we can sort and order them by whatever criteria we like; we can produce statistics about reports; and yes, I think I probably agreed that I would make them searchable too!

All...I hope you'll agree...great stuff!
 

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Posted by RooK (# 1852) on :
 
Just peeked at the donations so far; you guys are awesome. It's very heartening to see how many of us are willing to pitch in to help out.
 

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Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
As a technopeasant* I am really grateful to those who are working to make this happen. I don't have a clue what you're doing, and I don't even know enough to ask an intelligent question, but that's OK because past experience has taught me that people like me won't be left behind by those who are doing the work.

My part will be a donation, which won't be nearly enough to express my thanks for what the Ship gives me. I'll sit down and sort it out on pay day.

Huia

* Thanks to Uncle Pete for this term, I hope he hasn't copyrighted it
 

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Posted by RuthW (# 13) on :
 

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Originally posted by magicroundabout:
You may say: "But it's not broken - so why fix it?" and you'd have a point. It works ...

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It does! Mostly. But go down and try to find something in Oblivion. Or run a search.

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Just peeked at the donations so far; you guys are awesome. It's very heartening to see how many of us are willing to pitch in to help out.

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You may say: "But it's not broken - so why fix it?" and you'd have a point. It works ...

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It does! Mostly. But go down and try to find something in Oblivion. Or run a search.

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Originally posted by magicroundabout:
But this will allow us to categorise and summarise information about the reports. So, for example, we can automatically create a list of all reports for a given denomination, or diocese; we can sort and order them by whatever criteria we like; we can produce statistics about reports; and yes, I think I probably agreed that I would make them searchable too!

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Originally posted by Marvin the Martian:
One think I think would be very cool would be a map of churches that have been MW'd. Like an overlay on Google Maps or something.

I realise that would probably be far too impractical to actually do, but I do think it would be an awesome feature.

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Originally posted by Huia:
As a technopeasant*

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* Thanks to Uncle Pete for this term,

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Originally posted by Schroedinger's cat:
Sipech - you are already in the running for "The old boards were better" title, and we haven't ever got the new ones yet.

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Originally posted by magicroundabout:
It's worth having a discussion about this after we put the new site up. MW doesn't currently collect the full address of the church visited, so it may not be possible to correctly turn the church name and vague place-name into the latitude/longitude required to put it on a map

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If it's any help, geek that I am, I have a spreadsheet recording the latitude, longitude, name, date, denomination and rating of all churches I've done. The locations are put on a personalised Google Map, along with the 'to do' churches.

Edit: Is there a non-Paypal method for contributing? I don't have an account with them and have no desire to set one up.

[ 20. November 2017, 11:56: Message edited by: Sipech ]
 

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Posted by Jonah the Whale (# 1244) on :
 
I'm looking forward to seeing all the animated avatars.
 

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Posted by mr cheesy (# 3330) on :
 

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What I mean is will the plugins installed on my Wordpress blog work on the NewShip™

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Errr. Presumably plugins will only work if the ship blog is on a wordpress host where the plugins have been installed.

Unless the admins (of that blog) have installed the same plugins that you've installed, I can't see how we can possibly know if it will work the same as your blog.

I don't know exactly how the new ship will be set up, but I'd guess that the vanilla forum part will be embedded within a wordpress site. So unless one is going to be posting blogs (which I'm guessing probably won't be many forum members), you're not going to see the backend of the wordpress part.
 

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Posted by Jack o' the Green (# 11091) on :
 
Contribution made. Can't wait until the new site is up and running. Many thanks for all the hard work being done.


 

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Posted by magicroundabout (# 18869) on :
 

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Originally posted by balaam:
What I mean is will the plugins installed on my Wordpress blog work on the NewShip™

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Originally posted by Sipech:
Maybe a drop-down list may be helpful.

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Edit: Is there a non-Paypal method for contributing? I don't have an account with them and have no desire to set one up.

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Originally posted by mr cheesy:
I don't know exactly how the new ship will be set up, but I'd guess that the vanilla forum part will be embedded within a wordpress site. So unless one is going to be posting blogs (which I'm guessing probably won't be many forum members), you're not going to see the backend of the wordpress part.

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Originally posted by balaam:
Wordpress, to their credit, publish an attach report and work to fix it.

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Originally posted by balaam:
What I was hinting at in a roundabout way is that although Wordpress itself is robust, there are hacks through plug ins. Some legal that subvert the way Wordpress was designed and some which are illegal.

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Nearly all attacks on Wordpress is via plugins, we have to beware.

NewShip needs to be secure from other peoples plugins. In theory it should be secure anyway. In practice it is mostly secure.

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You're right. The core WordPress software is actually very secure - especially if you have good practices around user management and password policies. But plugins can be a weak point.

I take security seriously and manage probably over 50 WordPress websites. So I know what I'm doing here.

Only administrators will be able to install plugins. I tend to use only very well-known, well-used, and well-respected plugins. I have good password management. I keep software up to date. I keep good backups.

I think we'll be OK!

[ 20. November 2017, 14:26: Message edited by: magicroundabout ]
 

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Posted by Boogie (# 13538) on :
 
Donated

The thing I really liked about the Church of Fools was the blogs. Unlike ‘normal’ blogs they generated comments and discussion due to the excellent community here.

It folded, imo, due to the lack of a ‘hell’ for differences to be ironed out. It became something of a pressure cooker.

I hope Hell will be retained on the new Ship, I think it’s the secret to her longevity.


 

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Posted by Alan Cresswell (# 31) on :
 
Hell's all set to be put in the hand basket to be carried over to the new boards.
 

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Posted by Sipech (# 16870) on :
 
Magic Roundabout - yes, that's the kind of drop-down list I imagined. Might get tricky for some churches, particularly if they are part of a local ecumenical partnership or otherwise can't be neatly packaged.

Alan Cresswell - I thought you went to Hell in a handbasket/handcart. Not that Hell itself was transported via that means.
 

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Posted by Celtic Knotweed (# 13008) on :
 
Are we still going to be able to donate to the fund after the target's been reached? I know I don't have any money spare until 30 November, and the total is already getting close to the target number...
 

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Posted by Alan Cresswell (# 31) on :
 

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Originally posted by Sipech:
Magic Roundabout - yes, that's the kind of drop-down list I imagined. Might get tricky for some churches, particularly if they are part of a local ecumenical partnership or otherwise can't be neatly packaged.

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Are we still going to be able to donate to the fund after the target's been reached? I know I don't have any money spare until 30 November, and the total is already getting close to the target number...

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As a cyclist in the Information Superhighway I know what you mean.<snip>

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Are we still going to be able to donate to the fund after the target's been reached? I know I don't have any money spare until 30 November, and the total is already getting close to the target number...

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But is it then necessary to donate to be kept on? My finances have changed for the worse since I first joined?

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I have a long-running standing order set up in favour of the (old) organ fund. Is that account still filling the bunkers?

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It just needs a catch-all "Churches that refuse to be neatly classified". Those are the interesting reports.

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The intention was to have an "Other" option and the opportunity to specify the denomination - this can then be added as a formal denomination "category" if you like during the review process, if it's thought that more churches from this denomination might be Worshipped at.

I wonder...is "Churches that refuse to be neatly classified" a separate option to "Other"?

 

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Posted by Oscar the Grouch (# 1916) on :
 
Just looked at the running total and it is already over 2,300. Wow! Very exciting.
 

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Posted by Amanda B. Reckondwythe (# 5521) on :
 

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It just needs a catch-all "Churches that refuse to be neatly classified". Those are the interesting reports.

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Are we still going to be able to donate to the fund after the target's been reached? I know I don't have any money spare until 30 November, and the total is already getting close to the target number...

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Well can I start by saying a big "Hallelujah!". What an amazing, amazing lot you are. I mean, I'm truly blown away by everyone's generosity towards this project.

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Well, after slightly over 10 years signed up to the Ship, and 3 years 5 months lurking before that, making a donation to improve it is something I might just want to do . I believe that this place has more than a few people who've been about for longer (or shorter) than me and feel the same.

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Originally posted by magicroundabout:
I actually had pretty much exactly this question from the captain himself, by email. So I guess the immediate answer is "We haven't decided yet". But yes, certainly you will be able to keep giving and the money will be put towards making things better than they already will be. It will give us some kind of buffer for any shiny things that we decide we want as we go along.

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Posted by Jengie jon (# 273) on :
 
Celtic Knotweed

The ship has always been happy to receive funds via this page even if the crowdfunding is finished.

Jengie
 

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Posted by Alan Cresswell (# 31) on :
 

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Originally posted by Jack o' the Green:
Apologies if this has already been asked and answered,but when we re-register, will we have to stick with our original signing in name, or can we choose a new one, and will it be the same as our display name?

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Apologies if this has already been asked and answered,but when we re-register, will we have to stick with our original signing in name, or can we choose a new one, and will it be the same as our display name?

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Vanilla doesn't have the fairly unusual difference between a user name and displayed name. So, both of those will be the same. Maintaining your current display name will help to maintain continuity with your posting history here. But, there's nothing forcing you to retain the display name you're currently using.

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Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:
Vanilla doesn't have the fairly unusual difference between a user name and displayed name.

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Most computer systems in most contexts distinguish between a username and a displayed name. Perhaps forum software tends to be fairly unusual

Will the new ship allow spaces in names? AFAIK, Vanilla used not to, but I think perhaps it does now.

[ 20. November 2017, 22:09: Message edited by: Leorning Cniht ]
 

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Posted by Bishops Finger (# 5430) on :
 
Donation made - hope the launch goes well!

Being yet another Technopeasant, I view the future with some Trepidation, but (like all new Things) one has to give it a Try.

to all those doing the work!

IJ
 

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Posted by RooK (# 1852) on :
 

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Will the new ship allow spaces in names? AFAIK, Vanilla used not to, but I think perhaps it does now.

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Will the new ship allow spaces in names? AFAIK, Vanilla used not to, but I think perhaps it does now.

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That is exactly one of the things that got updated when we started testing, because Alan threw a wobbly.

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Originally posted by Amanda B. Reckondwythe:
It will allow spaces, but there's a length limit. I had to omit the final "e" in "Reckondwythe" as well as the period after the "B". So my name will be Amanda B Reckondwyth

I have selected a new avatar for myself also.

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So, it's already up and running?

If it's more compatible with my phone, I guess it's a good thing. Most of the rest of the posts on this thread are over my head.
 

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Posted by Simon (# 1) on :
 
Hi everyone... we're completely knocked sideways by the blindingly fast and hugely generous response of shipmates to the new Ship fund. Thanks so much to everyone who has given – you've enabled us to reach our target of £2,500 for building the new site in just two days! That happening just wasn't in any of our plans or even in our craziest dreams. So a huge thank you from me and everyone else involved in this project.

We've decided to raise our sights and get more ambitious for the Ship, and lift our fundraising target to £4,000.

Any extra money we raise beyond our original target will enable us to start work on some of the things we'd really love to do on Ship of Fools, but which we didn't think we would have the budget for. You can read more about it in a news item just posted on the Shipyard site:

Catching a rising tide

Thanks again. When there's more news about the schedule and the look of the new site, I'll post here, hopefully soon.

[ 20. November 2017, 23:48: Message edited by: Simon ]
 

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Posted by Simon (# 1) on :
 
Qoheleth: Just to say that your regular donations (and those of a few other shipmates), plus the one-off donations of many others, have indeed helped to top up the bunkers for a long time. Thanks to you and everyone else who supports the Ship, we've been able to pay our bills and stay online, with all our content free to view. I know we're not a very big site, but doing the above isn't easy even at our level, and lots of really good websites have closed for lack of financial support. So a heartfelt thank you to you and other shipmates for keeping the Ship afloat all this time.
 

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Posted by Amanda B. Reckondwythe (# 5521) on :
 

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Hi everyone... we're completely knocked sideways by the blindingly fast and hugely generous response of shipmates to the new Ship fund.

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Will I be able to continue using my Ship name on The Ship II?

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Originally posted by Huia:
This question is probably due to my afore mentioned technopeasantry.

I already use another name to comment on a friend's wordpress blog. Will I be able to continue using my Ship name on The Ship II?

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Originally posted by Marvin the Martian:
One think I think would be very cool would be a map of churches that have been MW'd. Like an overlay on Google Maps or something.

I realise that would probably be far too impractical to actually do, but I do think it would be an awesome feature.

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It's worth having a discussion about this after we put the new site up. MW doesn't currently collect the full address of the church visited, so it may not be possible to correctly turn the church name and vague place-name into the latitude/longitude required to put it on a map.

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Originally posted by Marvin the Martian:
One think I think would be very cool would be a map of churches that have been MW'd. Like an overlay on Google Maps or something.

I realise that would probably be far too impractical to actually do, but I do think it would be an awesome feature.

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It's worth having a discussion about this after we put the new site up. MW doesn't currently collect the full address of the church visited, so it may not be possible to correctly turn the church name and vague place-name into the latitude/longitude required to put it on a map.

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Not a priority item, but it should be possible (if space is built into the entries as the port over) to add the geo-spacial data to old entries, the nice folks at google have already collected many of them. It would just take a little time...

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One think I think would be very cool would be a map of churches that have been MW'd. Like an overlay on Google Maps or something.

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It's worth having a discussion about this after we put the new site up. MW doesn't currently collect the full address of the church visited, so it may not be possible to correctly turn the church name and vague place-name into the latitude/longitude required to put it on a map.

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Not a priority item, but it should be possible (if space is built into the entries as the port over) to add the geo-spacial data to old entries, the nice folks at google have already collected many of them. It would just take a little time...

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Yes, it should be possible in many cases. I just can't promise it for all of them. Or it may get some wrong. But, if we have time, we can try!

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Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:
Rest assured, we're adopting stable software that introduces functionality. But, we're not going to be adding features just because they are there.

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Originally posted by RuthW:
lilBuddha: You're not anxious to see glittery moving gifs in every post?

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Originally posted by Stercus Tauri:
I don't know if that picture of Brunel's 'Great Eastern' on the Shipyard page sends quite the right message.

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Well, we're not called Ship of Fools for nothing.
 

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Posted by Ferijen (# 4719) on :
 
Can we keep because I know how much some people lurve this smiley...


(a chomping gator in the design would be cool, too...)

More seriously guys, this looks cool. All credit to all involved.
 

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Posted by Marvin the Martian (# 4360) on :
 

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Originally posted by lilBuddha:
Vanilla offers feature that could significantly change this.
Also I would assume that, because of the current policy against like buttons, features like Best of Best Answers and (shudder) Gamification would be firmly in the off position. Am I correct?
And fucken'ell, no "Social" logins.
And Trusted Users are the hosts?
All very much PrettyPlease sirs and madams, rather than demands of course.

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Originally posted by lilBuddha:
This is as I had thought and I do not wish to insult the intelligence and awareness* of the H&A’s. Just was a tad nervous after envisioning what could happen.**


*Well, not all of you😉
**No, it isn’t about change, I completely accept the concept of change. As long as it doesn’t much happen.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Sipech:

quote:

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Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:
Rest assured, we're adopting stable software that introduces functionality. But, we're not going to be adding features just because they are there.

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Oh, so you're not an IT professional! That sounds much more sensible than many a solution I've come across.

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Originally posted by Leorning Cniht:
Our IT folks came out with the immortal line "you shouldn't expect every upgrade to be an improvement." I don't think "upgrade" means what they think it means.

(Yes, there can be upgrades that offer better back end stability or scalability, but don't make things visibly better for the user, but that's not what they meant. This was a response to a series of complaints about a new version of some product or other gratuitously removing a number of useful and well-used features.)

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quote:

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Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:
Rest assured, we're adopting stable software that introduces functionality. But, we're not going to be adding features just because they are there. The emphasis will still be on discussion, with the minimum of distraction.

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Whew!!! I'd been trying to figure out how to say something.

 

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Posted by Baptist Trainfan (# 15128) on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:
Rest assured, we're adopting stable software.

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Digital hay-racks? Mucking-out controlled by mobile phone? On-line betting for the horses themselves? Multi-channel TV available at the click of a hoof?

[ 23. November 2017, 07:53: Message edited by: Baptist Trainfan ]
 

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Posted by molopata (# 9933) on :
 
Well I might as well have my coming out as a Luddite. I kind of like the Ship as she is because she is what she is and has always been so without ambition to a state of incessant becoming. It’s a space where age and aging have been put on hold. And that’s one reason why I keep coming back.

I say this in a sense of a Swiss mineral water producer’s catchy slogan: “Aues wird besser, aber s’Valser Wasser bliibt guet.” [Everything gets better, but Valser Wasser just stays good.] That’s the Ship for me!

[Sigh] but I recognise that times are a-changing and the young folk around here want to do things differently (as do some older folk too). So I’ve made my donation - long overdue anyhow - and am ready to join the new crew.

But would I be unreasonable to request that the new tub sail in the old livery and the cabins and meeting spaces be kept in the accustomed no-nonsense sobriety?

And finally spare a thought for the fate of our faithful and trusty crew of emojis. Here’s one out in protest:



Will they too be granted safe passage to the new vessel? Or are they rather to be planked or scuppered along with rest? If so, they will be sorely missed.
 

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Posted by Alan Cresswell (# 31) on :
 

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Originally posted by Baptist Trainfan:

quote:

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Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:
Rest assured, we're adopting stable software.

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Digital hay-racks? Mucking-out controlled by mobile phone? On-line betting for the horses themselves? Multi-channel TV available at the click of a hoof?

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quote:

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Originally posted by molopata:
Well I might as well have my coming out as a Luddite. I kind of like the Ship as she is because she is what she is and has always been so without ambition to a state of incessant becoming. It’s a space where age and aging have been put on hold. And that’s one reason why I keep coming back.

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Originally posted by Curiosity killed ...:
I read the slimming down as more to do with the magazine and other activities outside the boards, which for people who use the Ship but not the community boards is the Ship.

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Simon did say that the boards are to stay and were to be transferred to Vanilla the rest of the Ship was moving to Wordpress. RuthW also said that the Eighth Day board is remaining, so it sounds as if most of this area will be transferred to Vanilla.

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Originally posted by Baptist Trainfan:
I trust the Captain and his Crew.

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You do? Wow.

I know that the Captains vision is a good one, and while I might not always agree, it is a place I am happy to travel. And I am excited about the new direction.
 

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Posted by Baptist Trainfan (# 15128) on :
 
Well, I'm a trusting sort of person ...
 

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Posted by Alan Cresswell (# 31) on :
 

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Originally posted by Baptist Trainfan:
Well, I'm a trusting sort of person ...

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You Fool
 

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Posted by Wesley J (# 6075) on :
 
And here goes some more of my hard-earned cash. For the hard-working Captain and crew. And for the benefit of Foolishkind, navigating.

Makes sense in times of rising sea levels. Long may she sail, and all that are upon her.
 

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Posted by fletcher christian (# 13919) on :
 
Will there be a Ship Cafe or has that been abandoned?
 

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Posted by molopata (# 9933) on :
 

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Originally posted by Jengie jon:
The ship changes technology periodically and always has done so. Since the earliest bulletin boards, it has been the people who made the ship what it was. I do not think the new technology will change that.

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Of course, there are some of us who witnessed the invention of the printing press and possibly even a certain Jonah being swallowed by a fish.

And of course they are right, things do (have to) change. Eventually. What Ye Admins have done admirably well though is not fall for every latest fad. The Ship has thrived on the written word (and of course a select number of right honourable emojis) rather than the use of embedded pictures and animated prancing pink ponies. So I of course look forward to seeing what they come up, but do assume I'll miss some things we leave behind.
 

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Posted by Marvin the Martian (# 4360) on :
 

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Originally posted by fletcher christian:
Will there be a Ship Cafe or has that been abandoned?

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quote:

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Originally posted by molopata:
animated prancing pink ponies

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Originally posted by molopata:
I kind of like the Ship as she is...

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We're right there with you on that sentiment - except for the fact that the current UBB.classic board software is no longer supported, and has developed some unfixable glitches. So the Captain went searching for the most fundamentally Ship-like board software to rebuild with.
 

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Posted by RooK (# 1852) on :
 
Also:

 

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Posted by lilBuddha (# 14333) on :
 
Your new avatar?
 

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Posted by Curiosity killed ... (# 11770) on :
 
Erin gave RooK a Little Pony avatar once, while he was still a Hell Host, iirc.
 

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Posted by Wesley J (# 6075) on :
 
And to think how many have ponied up!
 

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Posted by Marvin the Martian (# 4360) on :
 

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Originally posted by Wesley J:
And to think how many have ponied up!

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Amazingly, the total now stands at £3,567.10. Over three and a half grand in less than a week. You guys are freakin' amazing
 

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Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 

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Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:
There is no requirement for anyone to donate.

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Nevertheless I apologize that until I find work again ...
 

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Posted by Oscar the Grouch (# 1916) on :
 

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Originally posted by RooK:
Also:

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I'm tempted to ask for a refund now.....

AND compensation for the emotional and mental damage caused by seeing that....



 

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Posted by mousethief (# 953) on :
 
Okay I'm in. I've plagued the Ship enough; I definitely owe a quid or two.
 

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Posted by molopata (# 9933) on :
 
You sure? The new ship will have less leather upholstery to nibble on.
 

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Posted by molopata (# 9933) on :
 

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Originally posted by RooK:
Also:
[Picture of unfathomable obscenity]

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RooK! You never fail to shock and disgust!
 

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Posted by Chorister (# 473) on :
 

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Originally posted by Schroedinger's cat:
And I am excited about the new direction.

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Originally posted by no prophet's flag is set so...:
Rather, they would be put on half rations, flogged (often after Church rigging was taken down on Sunday), and hanged from the yardarm.

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Originally posted by basso:
I do like the option of flogging a miscreant around the fleet.

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Some went out on the sea in ships;
they were merchants on the mighty waters.
They saw the works of the Lord,
his wonderful deeds in the deep.
For he spoke and stirred up a tempest
that lifted high the waves.
They mounted up to the heavens and went down to the depths;
in their peril their courage melted away.
They reeled and staggered like drunkards;
they were at their wits’ end.
Then they cried out to the Lord in their trouble,
and he brought them out of their distress.
He stilled the storm to a whisper;
the waves of the sea were hushed.
They were glad when it grew calm,
and he guided them to their desired haven.

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Originally posted by basso:
I do like the option of flogging a miscreant around the fleet.

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quote:

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Originally posted by no prophet's flag is set so...:
<snip> Psalm 107 here.

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Originally posted by Rossweisse:
Will we be able to retain our old avatars? Mine was drawn for me by my Senior Child, and I am fond of it.

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Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:
Besides, Church rigging is a big can of worms. Far too much potential for people telling us how the rigging should be done.

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quote:

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Originally posted by BroJames:

quote:

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Originally posted by no prophet's flag is set so...:
<snip> Psalm 107 here.

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There’s some brilliant word painting in Sumsion’s musical setting of that.

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You see, right there is one of the reasons I stick with the Ship. Where else can you find a casual reference to a (fairly) obscure but to me much loved choral/organ composer, off the back of a scripture quote? One of my favourite psalm pieces of all time this, and what was going through my head while I was reading the psalm earlier on the thread - in the original language, of course!
 

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Posted by Bishops Finger (# 5430) on :
 
O indeed - this verse always seems so appropriate:

Psalm 107 v27
They reel to and fro, and stagger like a drunken man, and are at their wit's end.




IJ
 

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Posted by Landlubber (# 11055) on :
 
This has been my sig since I joined - I hope the new Ship will be sufficiently unrestful for me to keep it!
 

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Posted by Rossweisse (# 2349) on :
 

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Originally posted by RooK:
I think we're all quite fond of your avatar. You'll be able to have whatever you care to upload for your avatar image.

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Originally posted by Rossweisse:
Is there a way to transfer it or save it?

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Originally posted by RooK:

quote:

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Originally posted by Rossweisse:
Is there a way to transfer it or save it?

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Absolutely. Consider it handled.

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Originally posted by Landlubber:
This has been my sig since I joined - I hope the new Ship will be sufficiently unrestful for me to keep it!

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Originally posted by Jengie jon:
Alternatively, just right click on the image in a post and you can save it to your computer.

Jengie

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Originally posted by Jengie jon:
I guess I should change to a photo of my new boots, they are only two years old.

Jengie

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Good ole Shipmate Chelley, who hasn't posted for a few months, has already got some Doc Martens as her avatar. Just sayin'.
 

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Posted by Rossweisse (# 2349) on :
 

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Originally posted by RooK:
Absolutely. Consider it handled.

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Originally posted by Doublethink.:
If H&A could let me know any parameters for that it would help, used to be 50x50.

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The new system will display avatar images at 48x48 pixel resolution - same as today. You can load in a larger image, but it will be scaled to display at the standard size. Scaling algorithms can be unkind to some images, so to have completely consistent results it works best to have a native 48x48 image. I personally used a 3200x2400 image, because I'm a jackass resource hog and because it secretly includes a map to where I've hidden the bodies. Or, rather, it did - until the system resized the file to 250x250 for storage. So good luck finding your friends, surviving illuminati.
 

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Posted by roybart (# 17357) on :
 
Coming late to this thread but I have just paid my fare for the new voyage. If it were up to me, I would probably still be typing this on an IBM Selectric with a carbon copy for my files. But I trust that you all know best! Thanks to Simon, the back office, the Admins., and Hosts for all you do.
 

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Posted by Patdys (# 9397) on :
 
Just need a tenner and change.
 

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Posted by Jack o' the Green (# 11091) on :
 

 

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Posted by RooK (# 1852) on :
 
BOOM:
£4014.60

You magnificent piratical bastards.
 

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Posted by mousethief (# 953) on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by RooK:
BOOM:
£4014.60

You magnificent piratical bastards.

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quote:

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Originally posted by RooK:
I personally used a 3200x2400 image, because I'm a jackass resource hog and because it secretly includes a map to where I've hidden the bodies. Or, rather, it did - until the system resized the file to 250x250 for storage. So good luck finding your friends, surviving illuminati.

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Originally posted by Sipech:
Fabulous stuff!

Is it generally expected that we register on the new ship with our existing names, or are we free to use others and maybe add our old one to the signature, as with previous spates of name changes that have occasionally been permitted?

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Asked and answered. So, yes you can change, but please don't. Or your option works for continuity as well.
My preference on the desirability of change, of course, see Rook's post for the official bit. I am not official, merely (barely) tolerated.

[ 29. November 2017, 17:56: Message edited by: lilBuddha ]
 

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Posted by Bishops Finger (# 5430) on :
 
I rather hope that most peeps will keep to their existing names, as my OCD gets upset over too many changes and chances in this fleeting world..

IJ
 

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Posted by Landlubber (# 11055) on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by Marvin the Martian:

quote:

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Originally posted by Landlubber:
This has been my sig since I joined - I hope the new Ship will be sufficiently unrestful for me to keep it!

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Assuming we even have signatures on the new Ship. There's a strong chance that they will go the same way as member numbers, because none of the sig options we've seen so far are fit for purpose.

You can always keep it in the "about me" section of your new profile if you want.

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Thank you - here's to a stable platform and an unrestful Ship.
 

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Posted by Leaf (# 14169) on :
 
Just scrambling back on board after some travel. Glad to hear of the refurbished Ship! Have donated.
 

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Posted by Celtic Knotweed (# 13008) on :
 
Donation made Took me 2 goes though - the first time I tried paypal wanted me to create an account before taking my money
 

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Posted by balaam (# 4543) on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by Landlubber:
here's to a stable platform and an unrestful Ship.

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If we have an unstable platform expect the ship to be really unrestful.

I am expecting teething trouble, and am giving time for the waters to settle after the launch and asking all shipmates to make allowances.

I am also recklessly mixing metaphors.
 

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Posted by Oscar the Grouch (# 1916) on :
 
Can I be the first person to say that I don't like the look of the new Ship?
 

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Posted by mousethief (# 953) on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by balaam:

quote:

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Originally posted by Landlubber:
here's to a stable platform and an unrestful Ship.

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If we have an unstable platform expect the ship to be really unrestful.

I am expecting teething trouble, and am giving time for the waters to settle after the launch and asking all shipmates to make allowances.

I am also recklessly mixing metaphors.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Oscar the Grouch:
Can I be the first person to say that I don't like the look of the new Ship?

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Originally posted by Simon:
Now that we've broken through our revised £4,000 target (currently we're at an amazing £4074.60), this is just to say a very big thank you to everyone who's given so generously to the fund for the new Ship. It's hugely – astronomically! – encouraging that together we've raised such a big amount in just 12 days, and it gives us everything we need to complete work on the site. So grateful thanks to everyone for lending a hand to the Ship.

I've just a few mins ago received the final designs for how the new site will look, which means we're now seriously into our build phase of the work. I'll post more news about how that's developing when there are things to share. But for now, everything's looking very promising.

Thanks again!

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Originally posted by Wet Kipper:
Donated.

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Thank you

quote:

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Has the "Mobile Device" testing been done just with Internet Browsers ?
Will the new forums be available on "all your forums in the same place" apps like Tapatalk ?

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quote:

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Are there any plans (even with stratospheric projected costs) to make an actual S.o. F app ?

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Oh, and incidentally, my avatar appears to be "not available"

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Originally posted by Boogie:
Will the two Ships sail side by side for a while?

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Originally posted by RooK:

quote:

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Originally posted by Boogie:
Will the two Ships sail side by side for a while?

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Long enough for the gangplank to succeed.

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Originally posted by RooK:

quote:

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Originally posted by Boogie:
Will the two Ships sail side by side for a while?

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Long enough for the gangplank to succeed.

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Originally posted by Golden Key:
--Are Limbo, Oblivion, *all the current threads*, the Christmas pageant, etc. all going to be saved and available? Hopefully, both, but I'd go for saved, if that's all that's possible at this time.

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quote:

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--Do we need to clear out our mail, or will it be transferred?

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Originally posted by Ohher:
I want to contribute, but also can't afford to do so twice.

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Admins do not have access to the detailed financial information, but the grand total contributed speaks very loudly about the cockle-warming generosity of the Shipmates as a whole. So I feel pretty comfortable in thanking you for even worrying about it, and recognizing your intended generosity, but to implore you to worry no more about it.

Namaste.
 

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Posted by Bishops Finger (# 5430) on :
 
What a gracious reply.



IJ
 

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Posted by lilBuddha (# 14333) on :
 
Holy shit, Rook’s account has been hacked! That is completely out of character for him to post like that. I mean, imagine if the imposter got away with this and continued to...wait, never mind.
Everything is cool, nothing to see here, move along. ✋🏾👉🏽

[ 08. December 2017, 16:57: Message edited by: lilBuddha ]
 

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Posted by Schroedinger's cat (# 64) on :
 
Rook - you sweetie!
 

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Posted by Pigwidgeon (# 10192) on :
 
It's Christmas... he knows that Santa's watching to see if he's been a good boy.

 

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Posted by Ohher (# 18607) on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by RooK:


Namaste.

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Who are you and what have you done with our RooK?
 

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Posted by Marvin the Martian (# 4360) on :
 
It's all that money coming in. It's softened him right up.
 

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Posted by balaam (# 4543) on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by Marvin the Martian:
It's all that money coming in. It's softened him right up.

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quote:

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Originally posted by balaam:
I don't like the soft RooK, can I have my money back?

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Originally posted by Rossweisse:
That looks to me like the Stay-Puft Marshmallow Man.

This is Gozer.

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That is its first form, it changes to the Marshmallow Man soon after. So still a fitting analog to our Rook.
 

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Posted by Sipech (# 16870) on :
 
Is there a current expected date when the new ship is floating?
 

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Posted by Eutychus (# 3081) on :
 
"No man knows the day nor the hour"
 

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Posted by Rossweisse (# 2349) on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by lilBuddha:
That is its first form, it changes to the Marshmallow Man soon after. So still a fitting analog to our Rook.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Eutychus:
"No man knows the day nor the hour"

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quote:

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Originally posted by Eutychus:
"No man knows the day nor the hour"

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But there’s a woman on her way to let you know
 

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Posted by balaam (# 4543) on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by Boogie:

quote:

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Originally posted by Eutychus:
"No man knows the day nor the hour"

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But there’s a woman on her way to let you know

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Posted by Eutychus (# 3081) on :
 
Am I supposed to feel like the Nazgûl caught out by Éowyn?

I was loosely quoting the AV, which has passed into the vernacular. No sexism intended.

Are we to sanitise Shakespeare quotes too? "There is a tide in the affairs of persons, which, when taken at the flood..."
 

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Posted by Boogie (# 13538) on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by Eutychus:
Am I supposed to feel like the Nazgûl caught out by Éowyn?

I was loosely quoting the AV, which has passed into the vernacular. No sexism intended.

Are we to sanitise Shakespeare quotes too? "There is a tide in the affairs of persons, which, when taken at the flood..."

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Fear not, I was teasing
 

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Posted by Golden Key (# 1468) on :
 

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Originally posted by balaam:

quote:

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Originally posted by Boogie:

quote:

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Originally posted by Eutychus:
"No man knows the day nor the hour"

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But there’s a woman on her way to let you know

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Ditto!
 

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Posted by Rosa Gallica officinalis (# 3886) on :
 
Looking forward to the reincarnation.

Is it possible that the ship names of shipmates who have been promoted to glory could be made unavailable for the new registration?

I'm not sure we could cope with new users of the names of people we dearly love.
 

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Posted by Alan Cresswell (# 31) on :
 
That has already been arranged.
 

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Posted by Marvin the Martian (# 4360) on :
 
Yep. One of the first things we did
 

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Posted by Rosa Gallica officinalis (# 3886) on :
 
I knew we were in good hands!
 

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Posted by Uncle Pete (# 10422) on :
 
Wodders was wondering if the new platform we are migrating to is Platform 9-3/4?

Whenever you do actually do migrate, please migrate him avatar and name, pretty please and thank you. He still has hopes that he will be back on-line but the situation is not looking good, IMO.
 

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Posted by Pigwidgeon (# 10192) on :
 

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Originally posted by Uncle Pete:
Wodders was wondering if the new platform we are migrating to is Platform 9-3/4?

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We'll save him a seat on the Hogwarts Express!
 

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Posted by RooK (# 1852) on :
 

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Originally posted by Uncle Pete:
Wodders was wondering if the new platform we are migrating to is Platform 9-3/4?

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quote:

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Whenever you do actually do migrate, please migrate him avatar and name, pretty please and thank you.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Uncle Pete:
Thanks but since he is still effectively blind I think I was asking if someone (hint, hint) could sign him up to the new boards

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Originally posted by Nicolemr:
Oh, here's a question no one's asked yet. Will there be a private messaging system like the current ship has?

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quote:

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Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:
And, it looks like private messages can be sent to multiple recipients. Which would be handy organising meets, and other similar situations.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:
Yes, we're retaining the current structure.

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Originally posted by lilBuddha:
presses foot onto deck

creak

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Originally posted by Freddy:
Does this mean that every twenty years they are going to rearrange everything all over again?

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quote:

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Originally posted by Schroedinger's cat:
The admins deserve a few drinks I think....

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quote:

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Originally posted by Doc Tor:

quote:

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Originally posted by Schroedinger's cat:
The admins deserve a few drinks I think....

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Sodomy and the lash first. Then the rum.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Doc Tor:

quote:

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Originally posted by Schroedinger's cat:
The admins deserve a few drinks I think....

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Sodomy and the lash first. Then the rum.

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Glad I'm not crew, then. I'd take the last and leave you the other two, as that appears your stated preference.

#notjudging
 

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Posted by Doc Tor (# 9748) on :
 
Ah, but I'm not Admin...
 

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Posted by Alan Cresswell (# 31) on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by passer:
Is it expected that we register using the originally registered name or the current board name, or does it matter?

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Also, will there be the ability to change board names on the fly, so to speak?

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The software permits change of name. We'll probably want to limit the ability to constantly change names (much as we currently have), because it just gets too confusing.
 

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Posted by passer (# 13329) on :
 
Thanks.
 

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Posted by luvanddaisies (# 5761) on :
 
I’ve not been here for ages and ages, and logged back in on a whim today. Reading the boards reminds me what a special place The Ship is, so I’ve chipped in too.
Hoping the facelift is a success.

I’ll miss those smilies though, especially this guy and this one

 

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Posted by Golden Key (# 1468) on :
 
Is there a way we can keep the smilies? Please?
 

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Posted by Sioni Sais (# 5713) on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by Golden Key:
Is there a way we can keep the smilies? Please?

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Maybe Shipmates could sponsor smilies?

 

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Posted by balaam (# 4543) on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by Sioni Sais:

quote:

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Originally posted by Golden Key:
Is there a way we can keep the smilies? Please?

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Maybe Shipmates could sponsor smilies?

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We have over £800 extra, that's a whole lotta smilies
 

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Posted by Jengie jon (# 273) on :
 
Actually, it's over £900 and I guess the challenge at present is to see if we can get to double the original (i.e. £2,500) request by Christmas.

Jengie
 

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Posted by Boogie (# 13538) on :
 
🙂🤔🤗😂😇😊
 

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Posted by Sipech (# 16870) on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by lilBuddha:

quote:

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Originally posted by Freddy:
Does this mean that every twenty years they are going to rearrange everything all over again?

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Change that often? Oh, the horror.
If it was good enough for the Phoenicians, it is good enough for us!

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Bear in mind there are some around here who have yet to come to terms with the reformation...
 

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Posted by Jengie jon (# 273) on :
 
What do you mean the Reformation, I thought it was the Great Schism.

Jengie
 

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Posted by Sipech (# 16870) on :
 
No, the Great Schism was the name of Philip Melanchthon's circus act, which was cancelled after less than 1 whole performance.
 

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Posted by Jengie jon (# 273) on :
 
Nope

Jengie
 

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Posted by RooK (# 1852) on :
 
Apropos of a certain Hell thread, it should be pointed out that the New Ship™ has a [SPOILER] function. This allows sections of a post to be hidden behind a "SPOILER!" warning button, that can be selectively revealed by a reader.

Thought it rather nifty, personally.
 

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Posted by lilBuddha (# 14333) on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by RooK:
Apropos of a certain Hell thread, it should be pointed out that the New Ship™ has a [SPOILER] function. This allows sections of a post to be hidden behind a "SPOILER!" warning button, that can be selectively revealed by a reader.

Thought it rather nifty, personally.

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quote:

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Originally posted by RooK:
Apropos of a certain Hell thread, it should be pointed out that the New Ship™ has a [SPOILER] function. ...

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quote:

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Originally posted by RooK:
Apropos of a certain Hell thread, it should be pointed out that the New Ship™ has a [SPOILER] function. This allows sections of a post to be hidden behind a "SPOILER!" warning button, that can be selectively revealed by a reader.

Thought it rather nifty, personally.

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Is not this, in itself, a spoiler? Now I won't have the joy of finding this out for myself! Hmmph!
 

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Posted by Hedgehog (# 14125) on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by lilBuddha:
ETA: Thought it will undoubtedly lower my opinion of the Shipmates who will neglect to use it.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Schroedinger's cat:
Question - those of us who are privat board hosts, will we get any training on the new software?

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quote:

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Originally posted by Nicolemr:
[...] Will we be able to e-mail threads to people like we can now? [...]

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quote:

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Originally posted by Wesley J:

quote:

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Originally posted by Nicolemr:
[...] Will we be able to e-mail threads to people like we can now? [...]

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While e-mail threats might be counterproductive!

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quote:

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Originally posted by Nicolemr:
Oh, I thought of another question: Will we be able to e-mail threads to people like we can now? I don't know how many shipmates use that function but I do occasionally.

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quote:

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Originally posted by lilBuddha:
That is its first form, it changes to the Marshmallow Man soon after.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Freddy:
Does this mean that every twenty years they are going to rearrange everything all over again?

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quote:

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I’ve had to educate a computer on the nuances of multi-denominational liturgical calendars

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quote:

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Sorry, but you've already voted in this poll. You cannot vote more than once. This isn't Zimbabwe you know!

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quote:

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Thank you for being one of the six (okay, maybe seven) registered users who use the preview post function. Now check carefully before you post.

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quote:

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Originally posted by balaam:
So things are moving on. Good.

But after integrating the boards, will we still be getting the cryptic error messages, such as the one for attempting to vote twice in a poll:

quote:

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Sorry, but you've already voted in this poll. You cannot vote more than once. This isn't Zimbabwe you know!

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or this:

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Thank you for being one of the six (okay, maybe seven) registered users who use the preview post function. Now check carefully before you post.

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Better get Kelly onto it if not.

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Originally posted by mousethief:
I would be sorry if Susan Doris couldn't participate fully, to keep all these godbotherers in line. The boards gain so much from a broad variety of posters.

Very excited about all this, and looking forward to the new hull.

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Thank you for saying!

I have listened through all the pages now, except page 5, which for some reason the software doesn'tlike! I'll go back to it later - I don't like to miss anything , you know!
 

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Posted by balaam (# 4543) on :
 

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Originally posted by Chorister:
Don't forget to take a little time off to enjoy your Christmas pudding....

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quote:

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Originally posted by SusanDoris:
I have listened through all the pages now, except page 5, which for some reason the software doesn'tlike! I'll go back to it later - I don't like to miss anything , you know!

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Page 5 contains some posts of RooK being sweetness and light. It is possible that your screen reader couldn't believe it either.

[ 22. December 2017, 19:56: Message edited by: Hedgehog ]
 

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Posted by RooK (# 1852) on :
 
Vile slander!
 

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Posted by SusanDoris (# 12618) on :
 
It's nice to start the weekend with a smile!
 

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Posted by Golden Key (# 1468) on :
 
Good re attention to accessibility.
 

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Posted by Sioni Sais (# 5713) on :
 
Yay! We have cracked the £5,000 mark twice the original target.
 

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Posted by Jack o' the Green (# 11091) on :
 

 

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Posted by RooK (# 1852) on :
 
Now we can afford to double the Hosts' salaries!
 

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Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by RooK:
Now we can afford to double the Hosts' salaries!

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Posted by Jack o' the Green (# 11091) on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by RooK:
Now we can afford to double the Hosts' salaries!

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quote:

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Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:
Hosts don't have company cars. They have the company dinghy.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:
Hosts don't have company cars. They have the company dinghy.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:
Hosts don't have company cars. They have the company dinghy.

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quote:

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Originally posted by mousethief:
They can buy new rubber-ducky danglies for their oarlocks.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Ariston:

quote:

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Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:
Hosts don't have company cars. They have the company dinghy.

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Surprised I haven't been made to walk the company plank.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:

quote:

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Originally posted by Ariston:

quote:

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Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:
Hosts don't have company cars. They have the company dinghy.

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Surprised I haven't been made to walk the company plank.

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You could have the dingy if you like.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Wesley J:

quote:

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Originally posted by Jengie jon:
I guess I should change to a photo of my new boots, they are only two years old.

Jengie

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Good ole Shipmate Chelley, who hasn't posted for a few months, has already got some Doc Martens as her avatar. Just sayin'.

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quote:

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Chapelhead*: “March 2017 Start of the Ship of Fools Civil War, also known as the War Between the Boards.”

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quote:

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Originally posted by Hedgehog:
It was civil. You can't say that about most wars.

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I've always thought "Civil War" was an oxymoron.
 

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Posted by Rossweisse (# 2349) on :
 
My dear mother, at the age of 4 (she was a precocious child) would ask, "Why do they call it 'civil'? They weren't very civil to one another." This sounds better.

What's the thread title?
 

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Posted by Golden Key (# 1468) on :
 
{Apologies if this was already covered.}

May I make a suggestion? Could you send an e-mail out to all Shipmates*, briefly explaining what's going on?

Susan knew nothing, until a few days ago. There may be others. There are probably lots of formerly active Shipmates who would want to know.

*Or should that just be Shipmates who've ever posted? Otherwise, we might suddenly get an influx of thousands of the non-posting apprentices.


FWIW. Thx.
 

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Posted by Jengie jon (# 273) on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by Chelley:

quote:

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Originally posted by Wesley J:

quote:

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Originally posted by Jengie jon:
I guess I should change to a photo of my new boots, they are only two years old.

Jengie

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Good ole Shipmate Chelley, who hasn't posted for a few months, has already got some Doc Martens as her avatar. Just sayin'.

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Have just read through the 7 pages!
So, having paid careful attention, am off to save me old boots from profile so they can make the journey over, and add a bit to the coffers!
Pretty exciting stuff, though I am quite attached to my member number and being the old boot but standing ready to chuck ‘em overboard when we make the crossing.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Jengie jon:
Before anyone gets confused. I do not own Doc Martens, mine are generic walking boots.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Golden Key:
{Apologies if this was already covered.}

May I make a suggestion? Could you send an e-mail out to all Shipmates*, briefly explaining what's going on?Susan knew nothing, until a few days ago. There may be others........ There are probably lots of formerly active Shipmates who would want to know.

FWIW. Thx.

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Like me. I've been away, out of contact and don't know what to do to survive the transition

 

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Posted by Hazey*Jane (# 8754) on :
 
This may seem like extra effort but is there any chance of a pinned and locked thread in the Styx where only the hosts/admins post what is actually happening with timings as and when they are known? It's great having this thread to give people the chance to ask questions but it feels like the key points can easily get lost amid the chatter. Thanks.
 

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Posted by Marvin the Martian (# 4360) on :
 
You can use the Shipyard site (linked in the OP) for that.
 

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Posted by Auntie Doris (# 9433) on :
 
Hello poppets,

So I came in to offer my once a year post on the Celebrity Death Pool to find there are changes afoot.

When is the new shop likely to be launched?

Auntie Doris x
 

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Posted by Auntie Doris (# 9433) on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by Auntie Doris:
Hello poppets,

So I came in to offer my once a year post on the Celebrity Death Pool to find there are changes afoot.

When is the new ship likely to be launched?

Auntie Doris x

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quote:

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Originally posted by Marvin the Martian:
You can use the Shipyard site (linked in the OP) for that.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Auntie Doris:

quote:

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Originally posted by Auntie Doris:
Hello poppets,

So I came in to offer my once a year post on the Celebrity Death Pool to find there are changes afoot.

When is the new ship likely to be launched?

Auntie Doris x

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quote:

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Originally posted by balaam:
The reasons* for the delay:

The excess money was used for a techy booze up. They will not be sober until mid February.

Insufficient gopher wood could be obtained to build a ship 300 cubits by 50 cubits by 30 cubits.

Slow drying paint was used, it will not be dry until April.

The Mystery Worshipper plans were in Imperial and the rest of the ship in metric, they cannot be fitted together.

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*Some of these reasons may be fibs.

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Posted by Brenda Clough (# 18061) on :
 
Should we start a new poll then?
 

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Posted by Boogie (# 13538) on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by Brenda Clough:
Should we start a new poll then?

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quote:

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Originally posted by Baptist Trainfan:
Couldn't they just use Prosecco? Or would doing that curse the vessel at its very launch?

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quote:

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Originally posted by Chorister:
I expect the control team are waiting for the bottle of water to turn into champagne. You can't have a ship launch without it.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Sioni Sais:

quote:

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Originally posted by Baptist Trainfan:
Couldn't they just use Prosecco? Or would doing that curse the vessel at its very launch?

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Use that vile liquid and I flounce. Promise.

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Is there really a difference between Prosecco and Champagne? I thought it was just where they were produced.
 

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Posted by marsupial. (# 12458) on :
 
To shorten a long story:

Decanter article
 

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Posted by Rossweisse (# 2349) on :
 
Thank you, marsupial. I learned something.
 

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Posted by marsupial. (# 12458) on :
 
A seasonally appropriate tangent.
 

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Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by balaam:
The reasons* for the delay:

The excess money was used for a techy booze up. They will not be sober until mid February.

Insufficient gopher wood could be obtained to build a ship 300 cubits by 50 cubits by 30 cubits.

Slow drying paint was used, it will not be dry until April.

The Mystery Worshipper plans were in Imperial and the rest of the ship in metric, they cannot be fitted together.

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*Some of these reasons may be fibs.

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You're good at this - which Government Ministry are you the spokesperson for?

Huia
 

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Posted by Golden Key (# 1468) on :
 
H/As--

Would someone please confirm that this (from pg. 7) has been seen? Thx.

quote:

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Originally posted by Golden Key:
{Apologies if this was already covered.}

May I make a suggestion? Could you send an e-mail out to all Shipmates*, briefly explaining what's going on?

Susan knew nothing, until a few days ago. There may be others. There are probably lots of formerly active Shipmates who would want to know.

*Or should that just be Shipmates who've ever posted? Otherwise, we might suddenly get an influx of thousands of the non-posting apprentices.


FWIW. Thx.

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quote:

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Like me. I've been away, out of contact and don't know what to do to survive the transition

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quote:

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Originally posted by marsupial.:
To shorten a long story:

Decanter article

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quote:

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Originally posted by balaam:

quote:

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Originally posted by marsupial.:
To shorten a long story:

Decanter article

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Prosecco is sweet cheap rubbish, Champagne is heartburn-in-a-glass. Drink cava, you can get a good one for under £15 (avoid the Supermarket under £10 stuff).

PS: It is not pronounced Cah-vuh. it is Ca-buh, short a as in cat.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
Bear in mind, though, that cava will knpck you on your ass.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Curiosity killed ...:
We had a thread rewriting the Archers that started in February 2016 and ran until the September. It is now in Oblivion. Is that what you meant?

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quote:

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Originally posted by Light User:
As a daily lurker, but only an occasional poster

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quote:

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Originally said to me by pease:
time is an illusion, and deadlines, the glamorous assistants...

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quote:

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Originally posted by balaam:
...Everytime I see RooK's name in Styx i get all excited.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:
His ego is big enough already. Don't make his head explode.

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quote:

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Originally posted by RooK:
Shut up cockblockers, I'm anxiously awaiting Ross' response.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Lamb Chopped:
Amazing what they can do in vasectomies nowadays.

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Posted by RooK (# 1852) on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by lilBuddha:
Only two, small words constitute a block...

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Not words; people. Small people.
 

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Posted by jacobsen (# 14998) on :
 
Good things come in small packages.
 

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Posted by Marvin the Martian (# 4360) on :
 
If this thread gets any further off topic I might have to close it. That would really drive people crazy...
 

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Posted by Uncle Pete (# 10422) on :
 
On topic: when is the shift happening?
 

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Posted by Wet Kipper (# 1654) on :
 
the Shipboard Memories thread in heaven has sparked another question - will the new Ship / boards have a Gallery, or other method of posting real pictures of ourselves (for example to identify people "pre" shipmeet) or to store pictures of shipmeets that people used to put on Flickr and then link to ?
 

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Posted by Marvin the Martian (# 4360) on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by Uncle Pete:
On topic: when is the shift happening?

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quote:

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Originally posted by Wet Kipper:
the Shipboard Memories thread in heaven has sparked another question - will the new Ship / boards have a Gallery, or other method of posting real pictures of ourselves (for example to identify people "pre" shipmeet) or to store pictures of shipmeets that people used to put on Flickr and then link to ?

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quote:

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Originally posted by RooK:
Tell me more about that.

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quote:

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Originally posted by magicroundabout:
(contrary to popular belief, we didn’t have a huge tech booze-up over Christmas)

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quote:

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Originally posted by mousethief:

quote:

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Originally posted by magicroundabout:
(contrary to popular belief, we didn’t have a huge tech booze-up over Christmas)

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I'm sure you deserve it! Maybe after launch.

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That is when the job becomes the most frantic. Testing the software with techies will find a few bugs. Even employing trained idiots to beta test the software will only find the glitches they are trained to find. It is only when they have made the software safe, secure and working without falling over when used properly and the software is released to the untrained idiots of the real world, people like me, that the real bugs present themselves.

Software designers are working against evolution.
They make something idiot proof just as evolution comes up with a better idiot.

So bear with the techies post launch. They need sleep like everybody else. Buy shares in coffee companies now.
 

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Posted by Sioni Sais (# 5713) on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by balaam:

quote:

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Originally posted by mousethief:

quote:

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Originally posted by magicroundabout:
(contrary to popular belief, we didn’t have a huge tech booze-up over Christmas)

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I'm sure you deserve it! Maybe after launch.

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That is when the job becomes the most frantic. Testing the software with techies will find a few bugs. Even employing trained idiots to beta test the software will only find the glitches they are trained to find. It is only when they have made the software safe, secure and working without falling over when used properly and the software is released to the untrained idiots of the real world, people like me, that the real bugs present themselves.

Software designers are working against evolution.
They make something idiot proof just as evolution comes up with a better idiot.

So bear with the techies post launch. They need sleep like everybody else. Buy shares in coffee companies now.

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quote:

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Originally posted by lilBuddha:
If you think coffee and pizza are punitive, you don’t know programmers and are frequenting the wrong shops.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Wet Kipper:
the Shipboard Memories thread in heaven has sparked another question - will the new Ship / boards have a Gallery, or other method of posting real pictures of ourselves (for example to identify people "pre" shipmeet) or to store pictures of shipmeets that people used to put on Flickr and then link to ?

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Oh, that’s a point. There are a couple of pictures on the Gallery I’d be sad to see disappear; I can’t remember how to get to it though, it’s been a while! Could someone maybe post a link?
 

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Posted by Gwai (# 11076) on :
 
The link is right under community, the same place the link to boards is: http://forum.ship-of-fools.com/cgi-bin2/index.cgi
 

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Posted by Rossweisse (# 2349) on :
 
Thank you, Gwai! (Nice photo. How old is the infant now?)
 

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Posted by Anselmina (# 3032) on :
 
I have a question. I keep permanently logged in because I can never remember the password jumble of letters and numbers. Will we have to re-apply for membership anew? Or do we get shifted over somehow?

Sorry if these are silly questions. I'm not very technically au fait.
 

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Posted by Alan Cresswell (# 31) on :
 
It's not possible to transfer the membership database to the knew software (or, indeed to any modern software that was going to do what we needed). So, everyone will need to register again and chose a new password (unlike the current software you chose that during registration rather than be assigned one that you change to something memorable later).
 

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Posted by Brenda Clough (# 18061) on :
 
And new names? Will we need new names?
 

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Posted by Leorning Cniht (# 17564) on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by Brenda Clough:
And new names? Will we need new names?

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quote:

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Originally posted by Rossweisse:
Thank you, Gwai! (Nice photo. How old is the infant now?)

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Ha, thanks. She's 9 and a half.
 

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Posted by Rossweisse (# 2349) on :
 
I guessed about right then, basing it on the age of my own photo. (Has it been that long?)
 

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Posted by jacobsen (# 14998) on :
 
A relief to keep the old name. I couldn't guarantee to remember a new one.
 

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Posted by Wet Kipper (# 1654) on :
 
Going back to my Gallery question, (and sort of answering it myself) I've just noticed that this current board has a space in the profile section to link to a web-based photo of oneself, providing it is sourced somewhere we own.
I don't know how many people have made use of it, probably very few as not many people have their own webspace to host a picture (hence the provision of the Ship Gallery

I would expect that newer software may have the functionality to upload a photo of oneself into the Profile section for purposes of identification.
 

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Posted by Marvin the Martian (# 4360) on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by Wet Kipper:
I would expect that newer software may have the functionality to upload a photo of oneself into the Profile section for purposes of identification.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Marvin the Martian:
I suspect many posters will prefer not to use pictures of themselves that way.

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Plenty don't on Facebook, why would they here?
 

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Posted by Bishops Finger (# 5430) on :
 
I must confess that I await the Launch with some trepidation, not being all that computer-literate...

I do hope that we recognise each other under the new Conditions, as there are several Shipmates whose posts I always read, and I look forward to meeting them again on the fresh, new, decks.

IJ
 

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Posted by balaam (# 4543) on :
 
That ll depends on people using the same name and a recognisable avatar, I intend to use a picture either the same pic or a different one, but the same toy donkey.

If you want to use the same avatar save it now.
 

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Posted by Boogie (# 13538) on :
 
I’ve got my avatar ready, pretty much the same
 

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Posted by Bishops Finger (# 5430) on :
 
How do I save my avatar? It's one of the 'off-the-peg' examples.

IJ
 

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Posted by BroJames (# 9636) on :
 
Will existing Ship avatars still be available, or should we download a copy of the one that we use?

Will the new board still use/want avatar images which are 48x48 pixels?
 

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Posted by BroJames (# 9636) on :
 
…also on other important matters, please can we set the deckchairs out differently!
 

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Posted by Curiosity killed ... (# 11770) on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:
on 28 November
As a general service to all.

If you go to your profile and edit it, there will be a copy of your avatar visible. You can copy that onto your own computer. Make a note of where it is, and then when you sign up for the new boards you can upload it to your new profile then.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Gwai:
The link is right under community, the same place the link to boards is: http://forum.ship-of-fools.com/cgi-bin2/index.cgi

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Thank you. I knew it was somewhere really obvious, but I just couldn’t find it! What an idiot!
 

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Posted by Bishops Finger (# 5430) on :
 
Thanks, all! I've saved my avatar to My Pickshers, ready for use as and when.

IJ
 

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Posted by Amanda B. Reckondwythe (# 5521) on :
 
I'm told that Mystery Worship is ready for testing and am awaiting further information.
 

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Posted by Nicolemr (# 28) on :
 
What about the non-custom avatars, like mine? Will they still be available? Or should I save it specially? Although it's just one of the stock images, I'm quite attached to it.
 

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Posted by Ohher (# 18607) on :
 
5th post up from yours gives directions for saving your avatar.
 

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Posted by jacobsen (# 14998) on :
 
Thanks, Oher, that was useful for me too.
 

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Posted by The Phantom Flan Flinger (# 8891) on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by Leorning Cniht:

quote:

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Originally posted by Brenda Clough:
And new names? Will we need new names?

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You create a new name. I would personally encourage people to create a name that is the same as their old name...

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quote:

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Originally posted by BroJames:
Will existing Ship avatars still be available, or should we download a copy of the one that we use?

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quote:

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Will the new board still use/want avatar images which are 48x48 pixels?

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quote:

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Originally posted by The Phantom Flan Flinger:
Is there some way that existing users can get first dibs on their name on the new ship?

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quote:

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Originally posted by Marvin the Martian:

quote:

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Originally posted by The Phantom Flan Flinger:
Is there some way that existing users can get first dibs on their name on the new ship?

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I can't think of a single currently-active poster who would be dick enough to deliberately steal another currently-active poster's name

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quote:

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Originally posted by Marvin the Martian:
but in the unlikely event that two people try to claim the same name then we have the ability to cross-check your registration email addresses to determine who was using it here.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Marvin the Martian:

As stated earlier on this thread, we have also banned certain names (e.g. Erin, ken, Gambit) from being used at all.

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quote:

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Originally posted by lilBuddha:

quote:

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Originally posted by Marvin the Martian:
but in the unlikely event that two people try to claim the same name then we have the ability to cross-check your registration email addresses to determine who was using it here.

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Is this an automated process, or only arises if someone complains?

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quote:

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I can envision an "active"* poster wishing a name change. "Oh, I've never seen a Vera the Venusian. I shall take that name." Meantime, registered, but "inactive" lurker Vera the Venusian decides to register on the New Ship and finds the name taken. Being a lurker, s/he doesn't feel comfortable to challenge a long-time poster.

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Originally posted by Sioni Sais:
I can't find that post but I am tempted to reboard as ThomasDF, merseymike or Frank Mitchell.

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Originally posted by Marvin the Martian:
There are no automated data migrations or cross-checks between the two sets of software whatsoever - in software and database terms this will be a completely new Ship of Fools.

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Which leaves us with the option of trusting y'all to not be dicks, and intervening on a case-by-case basis in the (hopefully very) rare event of a conflict.

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Originally posted by lilBuddha:
Not knowing either software, I wouldn't think it an impossible task to create a data base that read from one into a format that could be read/imported into the other. Though I understand that this is additional work.

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Which leaves us with the option of trusting y'all to not be dicks, and intervening on a case-by-case basis in the (hopefully very) rare event of a conflict.

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My example was a specifically non-dickish one that is entirely plausible.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Sioni Sais:

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Originally posted by Marvin the Martian:

As stated earlier on this thread, we have also banned certain names (e.g. Erin, ken, Gambit) from being used at all.

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I can't find that post but I am tempted to reboard as ThomasDF, merseymike or Frank Mitchell.

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Posted by lilBuddha (# 14333) on :
 

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Originally posted by Marvin the Martian:

quote:

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Originally posted by lilBuddha:
Not knowing either software, I wouldn't think it an impossible task to create a data base that read from one into a format that could be read/imported into the other. Though I understand that this is additional work.

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It's also largely pointless. The vast majority of profiles (and thus usernames) we have on these boards will never be used again, so there's no need to expend effort to preserve them.

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Which leaves us with the option of trusting y'all to not be dicks, and intervening on a case-by-case basis in the (hopefully very) rare event of a conflict.

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My example was a specifically non-dickish one that is entirely plausible.

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I did not mean to imply that the only possible conflicts would result from people being dicks, merely that if everyone refrains from dickishness then the number of conflicts will be incredibly low. So low, in fact, that it will take considerably less time and effort to deal with them on a case-by-case basis after the event than to attempt to render them impossible in advance.

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Fair enough.
 

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Posted by Schroedinger's cat (# 64) on :
 
I know from works situations that transfer of data is always a tricky issue, and the decision is the one I would come to if being asked to do it as well.

Yes it is possible to do these transfers automatically, but the question is always about what the most appropriate thing to do is. OK, it is a small pain for each of us to have to re-register, but it is absolutely the right approach. It always seems like the "right" thing to make it simple for me, but from a wider perspective, some small work that each person has to do is, by a long way, far easier.

And just to say I know the pain in trying to get this all up and working, and I think the team working on it are doing a great job (keeping us informed, trying to resolve the problems, all in their spare time!). So a huge thank you, and please make it fantastic for us!
 

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Posted by Pigwidgeon (# 10192) on :
 
So is "Curious Buddhist" available?


 

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Posted by Rossweisse (# 2349) on :
 
I'm just worried that I'll be out of town and out of touch when the new Ship finally launches. Can we get any estimate of the probable date?
 

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Posted by Sioni Sais (# 5713) on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by Schroedinger's cat:
I know from works situations that transfer of data is always a tricky issue, and the decision is the one I would come to if being asked to do it as well.

Yes it is possible to do these transfers automatically, but the question is always about what the most appropriate thing to do is. OK, it is a small pain for each of us to have to re-register, but it is absolutely the right approach. It always seems like the "right" thing to make it simple for me, but from a wider perspective, some small work that each person has to do is, by a long way, far easier.

And just to say I know the pain in trying to get this all up and working, and I think the team working on it are doing a great job (keeping us informed, trying to resolve the problems, all in their spare time!). So a huge thank you, and please make it fantastic for us!

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Originally posted by Pigwidgeon:
So is "Curious Buddhist" available?

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{Throws soft pillow, which just misses Pigwidgeon.}
 

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Posted by Ian Climacus (# 944) on :
 
A note of thanks to all you working on Ship II. Greatly appreciated.
 

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Posted by Golden Key (# 1468) on :
 
Ditto.
 

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Posted by Alan Cresswell (# 31) on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by Ian Climacus:
A note of thanks to all you working on Ship II. Greatly appreciated.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Rossweisse:
I'm just worried that I'll be out of town and out of touch when the new Ship finally launches. Can we get any estimate of the probable date?

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Originally posted by Golden Key:

quote:

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Originally posted by Pigwidgeon:
So is "Curious Buddhist" available?

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{Throws soft pillow, which just misses Pigwidgeon.}

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I'm glad you have bad aim.

 

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Posted by Miffy (# 1438) on :
 
I’ve spent a lazy hour or two trawling through my not terribly recent ‘recent’ posts before they go the way of all things. Ah! Memories, memories.
 

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Posted by lilBuddha (# 14333) on :
 
In Hell, Rook mentioned that the new posting time limit is going to be 300 seconds. Is this true and why?
 

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Posted by Eutychus (# 3081) on :
 
Not only doth no man know the day nor the hour: bear in mind also that one day is as a thousand years, so 300 seconds...
 

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Posted by Gill H (# 68) on :
 

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Originally posted by Miffy:
I’ve spent a lazy hour or two trawling through my not terribly recent ‘recent’ posts before they go the way of all things. Ah! Memories, memories.

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Originally posted by lilBuddha:
In Hell, Rook mentioned that the new posting time limit is going to be 300 seconds. Is this true and why?

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Originally posted by mr cheesy:
I'm sure we'll all survive if it launches when you are unavailable for a few days.

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Originally posted by Eutychus:
Not only doth no man know the day nor the hour: bear in mind also that one day is as a thousand years, so 300 seconds...

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Originally posted by RooK:
Maybe it's the smallest non-zero option available in the new software.

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Originally posted by Gill H:

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Originally posted by Miffy:
I’ve spent a lazy hour or two trawling through my not terribly recent ‘recent’ posts before they go the way of all things. Ah! Memories, memories.

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Ah, the prophetic Miffy! Was it not you who called into being the wonderful Helmuth Alpenhorn and his Swiss Miss Belles? And then lo and behold, a yodel/rap fusion number at last year's Eurovision!

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It was indeed, Gill! Well- Mr M write the first entry, after which I took up the Helmuth baton. I was about to say ‘began tooting his horn ‘ but I don’t want to get banned just as we’re about to board the new Ship.

 

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Posted by The Midge (# 2398) on :
 
Speaking as an occasional visitor I will relish the chance of an equal post count with the most rabidly enthusiastic posters on the ship. I'm sure I will watch them sail off into the sunset leaving me in their new turbo-charged wake shortly thereafter.
 

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Posted by Alex Cockell (# 7487) on :
 
Please could you advise where you will be posting a link to the new SHip - ready for registration?
 

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Posted by RooK (# 1852) on :
 

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Originally posted by Alex Cockell:
Please could you advise where you will be posting a link to the new SHip - ready for registration?]

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Originally posted by RooK:
That will be here in the Styx, and well-flagged.

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Originally posted by Yorick:

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Originally posted by RooK:
Maybe it's the smallest non-zero option available in the new software.

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Hahaha. Yeah, maybe.

I bet you were gutted when you found that.

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Originally posted by Yorick:
Nah, I don’t think so. The boards would be as clogged as a Glaswegian chip shop owner’s coronaries with all the second posts people would make to correct the errors of their firsts.

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Originally posted by RooK:
There may be some confusion - edit window versus spam control.

The new Ship will permit editing of posts for up to 300 seconds after posting. Meanwhile, spam control will not hamper posting unless you exceed 5 posts within 60 seconds.

For now. We may alter it.

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I was certainly confused. Thanks for the clarification
 

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Posted by Boogie (# 13538) on :
 
Admins, keep tweaking at your peril
 

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Posted by Bishops Finger (# 5430) on :
 
There's some wonderful stuff on the site Boogie links to - thanks for brightening a dull day!

IJ
 

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Posted by Boogie (# 13538) on :
 

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Originally posted by Bishops Finger:
There's some wonderful stuff on the site Boogie links to - thanks for brightening a dull day!

IJ

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The games are excellent too, I recommend Exploding Kittens
 

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Posted by Palimpsest (# 16772) on :
 
I'm curious if Dead Horses board will continue and if it's expected that all the topics will continue to canter on toward eternity.
 

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Posted by Marvin the Martian (# 4360) on :
 

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Originally posted by Palimpsest:
I'm curious if Dead Horses board will continue and if it's expected that all the topics will continue to canter on toward eternity.

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Originally posted by Marvin the Martian:

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Originally posted by Palimpsest:
I'm curious if Dead Horses board will continue and if it's expected that all the topics will continue to canter on toward eternity.

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There will be a Dead Horses board on the New Ship. The same rules and topics will apply. But we’re not copying any threads across, so you lucky lot get to start all the arguments over from scratch!

I pity the Hosts. We’ll have to double their grog allowance for the first few months...

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Originally posted by Marvin the Martian:
I pity the Hosts. We’ll have to double their grog allowance for the first few months...

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Shipmates will have to cope with groggy Hosts

...

No change there.
 

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Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
That would be something of a turnaround.
 

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Posted by geroff (# 3882) on :
 
I do hope the high level of sarcasm will survive the move to the new ship - I do enjoy the message on preview post.
 

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Posted by balaam (# 4543) on :
 
Sarcasm? Here?
 

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Posted by lilBuddha (# 14333) on :
 
Never! IIACW after all.
 

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Posted by mousethief (# 953) on :
 

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Originally posted by balaam:
Sarcasm? Here?

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quote:

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Originally posted by balaam:

quote:

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Originally posted by Marvin the Martian:
I pity the Hosts. We’ll have to double their grog allowance for the first few months...

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Shipmates will have to cope with groggy Hosts

...

No change there.

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Grog ---> Groggy.

Hadn't realised that before.
 

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Posted by Marvin the Martian (# 4360) on :
 
Every day's a school day
 

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Posted by RooK (# 1852) on :
 
I have a proposed boarding process for the New Ship.
 

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Posted by Curiosity killed ... (# 11770) on :
 
So long as we can watch you and all the other hosts going first.
 

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Posted by jacobsen (# 14998) on :
 

 

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Posted by Pigwidgeon (# 10192) on :
 

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Originally posted by RooK:
I have a proposed boarding process for the New Ship.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Marvin the Martian:

quote:

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Originally posted by Palimpsest:
I'm curious if Dead Horses board will continue and if it's expected that all the topics will continue to canter on toward eternity.

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There will be a Dead Horses board on the New Ship. The same rules and topics will apply. But we’re not copying any threads across, so you lucky lot get to start all the arguments over from scratch!

I pity the Hosts. We’ll have to double their grog allowance for the first few months...

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quote:

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Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:
We can't transfer any threads over to the new boards, but we will be retaining these boards as a read-only archive.

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Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:
We can't transfer any threads over to the new boards, but we will be retaining these boards as a read-only archive.

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Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:
That's one you made earlier.

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Originally posted by Chorister:

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Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:
That's one you made earlier.

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Please don't tell us that the new ship is made of loo rolls and sticky backed plastic....

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Originally posted by lilBuddha:

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Originally posted by Chorister:

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Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:
That's one you made earlier.

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Please don't tell us that the new ship is made of loo rolls and sticky backed plastic....

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That is the old Ship. I'm sure the New Ship is of much sturdier materials.

Cardboard and duct tape, at least.

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Originally posted by Gill H:

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Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:
We can't transfer any threads over to the new boards, but we will be retaining these boards as a read-only archive.

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I so wanted that to end in "... but there will be a prize for any that are shown"

Showing my age there.

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Originally posted by balaam:
The new ship consists of hope and promises.

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Originally posted by Oscar the Grouch:
Vision On!

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Originally posted by Boogie:
Will there be a big splash in the Media as she’s launched?

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quote:

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Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:
we will be retaining these boards as a read-only archive.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:
We can't transfer any threads over to the new boards, but we will be retaining these boards as a read-only archive.

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Originally posted by Eutychus:

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Originally posted by Oscar the Grouch:
Vision On!

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Maximum nostalgia

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Originally posted by Oscar the Grouch:
Vision On!

Tony Hart, Morph et al

"They don't make 'em like that any more!"

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Originally posted by RooK:
I can say that the new discussion boards are looking close to ready

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Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:

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Originally posted by RooK:
I can say that the new discussion boards are looking close to ready

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Though, some of the gif's are a bit wobbly.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Pigwidgeon:

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Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:

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Originally posted by RooK:
I can say that the new discussion boards are looking close to ready

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Though, some of the gif's are a bit wobbly.

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Please keep the gifs away from the GIN.

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Originally posted by RooK:
It's almost the end of January, and...

Well, actually, I don't have anything official to report. I can say that the new discussion boards are looking close to ready, but don't have any information about the ultimate state of the whole Ship. We're hoping to get a refreshed ETA soon.

Thank you for your patience.

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Originally posted by Chorister:
February is the new January. Simples.

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Originally posted by Oscar the Grouch:

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Originally posted by Chorister:
February is the new January. Simples.

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Ah! But what if March is the new February?

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Originally posted by Mili:
At least the powers that be don't seem to be having a vote for the new ship's name, or we might find ourselves sailing on the Shippy McFool's Face or similar.

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Now there's an idea.... Just as well I'm not still hosting the Circus or it would become a reality.


(crikey, I had forgotten those smilies were there, after all this time)
 

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Posted by Schroedinger's cat (# 64) on :
 
On the software I work on, the month of shippinga new version is always incredibly long, sometimes up to 6 weeks, and with a name like "Octnovember". But we always hit the deadline, however we have to name it.

So I am sure the new ship will sail in Decembruary as we have been promised.
 

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Posted by Marvin the Martian (# 4360) on :
 

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Originally posted by mousethief:
My heart will go on.

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Worst. Earworm. Ever.
 

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Posted by Gill H (# 68) on :
 
It's a small world after all...

You're welcome.
 

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Posted by Marvin the Martian (# 4360) on :
 
People have been banned for less.
 

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Posted by Eutychus (# 3081) on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by Mili:
Maybe I'm just a pessimist, but I tend to assume all real life building/renovation projects will take longer than proposed and assumed the same for the new ship. At least the powers that be don't seem to be having a vote for the new ship's name, or we might find ourselves sailing on the Shippy McFool's Face or similar.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Eutychus:

quote:

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Originally posted by Mili:
Maybe I'm just a pessimist, but I tend to assume all real life building/renovation projects will take longer than proposed and assumed the same for the new ship. At least the powers that be don't seem to be having a vote for the new ship's name, or we might find ourselves sailing on the Shippy McFool's Face or similar.

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About that... Perhaps Andrew Constance could be enlisted as a particularly capricious admin...?

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RooK would squash Liar McLiarface like a bug. What a twerp.
 

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Posted by Schroedinger's cat (# 64) on :
 
It struck me that Freedom and SOng might not appreciate being on a vanilla board.....
 

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Posted by Mili (# 3254) on :
 
That Andrew Constance story is unexpected. What on earth was he thinking? I feel a bit sorry for Ian Kiernan that he never got a ferry named after him after all. I'm not sure how many kids these days know who May Gibbs is or are even familiar with the Gumnut Babies.
 

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Posted by Simon (# 1) on :
 
Hi all… this is just to say that we’re now almost complete on building the new Ship. We’ve been working throughout January on the new discussion boards and on the Mystery Worshipper, and both those areas are now a few working days away from completion.

We’re still sorting out the best dates to welcome people onboard, but what I can say is that we’ll be opening the new boards inside this coming month (i.e. February), and that I’ll let you know an exact opening date in the next few days. We’ll be running the new boards and the old boards in parallel for a while, to give everyone here time to register, get familiar with the new setup, and post any problems or questions either here in the Styx, or there in the new Styx.

There will be an end-point for running the old and new boards in parallel, when we’ll close these boards and archive them for read-only. It’ll be a big moment, and we’ll post the closing date well in advance.

This is a really exciting moment for the Ship, and we’re looking forward to welcoming you to the new home for this community. Thanks again to everyone who contributed to the New Ship Fund, and to all those who contribute month by month to the running of the Ship. Together, your generosity has made all this possible.
 

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Posted by balaam (# 4543) on :
 
I'm dusting off the virtual tuxedo ready for the maiden voyage party (which was preemptively last Saturday).

As you can tell, I cannot wait.
 

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Posted by Oscar the Grouch (# 1916) on :
 
Is it true that an orchestra has been hired and even now is practising playing "Nearer my God to Thee"?
 

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Posted by Nicolemr (# 28) on :
 
Waiting nervously for the launching...
 

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Posted by jacobsen (# 14998) on :
 

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Originally posted by Oscar the Grouch:
Is it true that an orchestra has been hired and even now is practising playing "Nearer my God to Thee"?

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quote:

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Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:
Is it possible to be too 70s?

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Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:
Is it possible to be too 70s?

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Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:
Is it possible to be too 70s?

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Originally posted by RooK:

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Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:
Is it possible to be too 70s?

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Has anyone else noted the disturbing similarities between Alan and Homer Simpson? Bald, odd skin colour, does "nuclear stuff" professionally, drinks beer, and now affinity for 70's music...

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Posted by Hedgehog (# 14125) on :
 
If we are listing appropriate songs, then surely Gordon Lightfoot's "Christian Island" should be in the running.
 

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Posted by Oscar the Grouch (# 1916) on :
 
Did no-one pick the Titanic reference??
 

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Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
I did Oscar and my laughter startled the cat.

She is now outside sulking in the dark.

Huia
 

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Posted by Curiosity killed ... (# 11770) on :
 
I did Oscar - it started playing this as an earworm - part of the soundtrack of my teenage years. I even saw him live the last time he was in the UK - at the Rainbow in Finsbury Park.
 

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Posted by luvanddaisies (# 5761) on :
 
We could have a launch party in the cafe - maybe there could be a Ship playlist on Spotify that we could all play in the background while we’re there?
 

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Posted by Curiosity killed ... (# 11770) on :
 
Café? What café? I refer you to this post from 23 November 2017.
 

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Posted by Sioni Sais (# 5713) on :
 

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Originally posted by Marvin the Martian:

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Originally posted by fletcher christian:
Will there be a Ship Cafe or has that been abandoned?

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I'm not aware of any current plans to reinstate the café.

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Originally posted by Curiosity killed ...:
Café? What café? I refer you to this post from 23 November 2017.

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Ah. I didn’t know.
Back in the day I tried it a few times, but I must have always picked the dead hours and rarely met anybody there.
 

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Posted by jacobsen (# 14998) on :
 
Are we nearly at the point where a new private board could be requested?
 

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Posted by Chorister (# 473) on :
 
Sounds just like my kids were and grandchildren are now:

"Are we nearly there yet?"
 

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Posted by Alan Cresswell (# 31) on :
 
And, as every parent or grandparent has said ... "it won't be long now".
 

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Posted by Eutychus (# 3081) on :
 
Perhaps everyone should start telling Simon they need a wee
 

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Posted by The Rogue (# 2275) on :
 
The phenomenon is not new. In 1839 Johann Hinrich Wichern was running a mission school and invented the advent wreath as a countdown to Christmas because the children kept asking if they were nearly there yet.
 

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Posted by Amanda B. Reckondwythe (# 5521) on :
 
Testing of Mystery Worship is in process and going well so far. A glitch or two to be ironed out, but hey, we're human.
 

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Posted by Barnabas62 (# 9110) on :
 
It's software, guys! Being tailored by a small team on a titchy budget. We'll get there.
 

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Posted by Boogie (# 13538) on :
 

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Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:
And, as every parent or grandparent has said ... "it won't be long now".

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quote:

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Originally posted by Barnabas62:
It's software, guys! Being tailored by a small team on a titchy budget. We'll get there.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Boogie:

quote:

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Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:
And, as every parent or grandparent has said ... "it won't be long now".

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Mine always said ‘just round the next corner’. It never was!

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quote:

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Originally posted by lilBuddha:

quote:

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Originally posted by Barnabas62:
It's software, guys! Being tailored by a small team on a titchy budget. We'll get there.

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Pedantically noting that it were a large team on a large budget, it still wouldn't be ready.

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quote:

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Originally posted by The Rogue:
And the law of engineers and programmers:

Complete the project quickly but make it look as though you are struggling and then pull it out of the bag just before the deadline.

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quote:

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Originally posted by The Rogue:
And the law of engineers and programmers:

Complete the project quickly but make it look as though you are struggling and then pull it out of the bag just before the deadline.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Stercus Tauri:

quote:

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Originally posted by The Rogue:
And the law of engineers and programmers:

Complete the project quickly but make it look as though you are struggling and then pull it out of the bag just before the deadline.

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How dare you?! That's supposed to be a secret!

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quote:

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Originally posted by jacobsen:

quote:

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Originally posted by The Rogue:
And the law of engineers and programmers:

Complete the project quickly but make it look as though you are struggling and then pull it out of the bag just before the deadline.

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And discover that there were a couple of glitches you hadn't thought of....

We can wait. At least, for the moment.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Chorister:

quote:

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Originally posted by Stercus Tauri:

quote:

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Originally posted by The Rogue:
And the law of engineers and programmers:

Complete the project quickly but make it look as though you are struggling and then pull it out of the bag just before the deadline.

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How dare you?! That's supposed to be a secret!

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Who nicked my undergrad essay writing ploy? Until now I thought it was all my own. Is nothing sacred?

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The sad thing for me was that it wasn't a ploy.
 

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Posted by Schroedinger's cat (# 64) on :
 
It is the the holy trinity of software development:

Cheap; on time; good.

Choose any two to get. We are getting it cheap (because of the incredible work so many are doing for free); we want it good (and, I can say, it is looking fantastic), so it will not be on time.

Every software project wants all three, but you can only have 2. At the most. I have worked on too many that only deliver one.
 

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Posted by Chorister (# 473) on :
 
Like Christmas and Easter it will be all the better for waiting. 40 days and 40 nights, perhaps???
 

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Posted by Golden Key (# 1468) on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by Chorister:

quote:

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Originally posted by Stercus Tauri:

quote:

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Originally posted by The Rogue:
And the law of engineers and programmers:

Complete the project quickly but make it look as though you are struggling and then pull it out of the bag just before the deadline.

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How dare you?! That's supposed to be a secret!

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Who nicked my undergrad essay writing ploy? Until now I thought it was all my own. Is nothing sacred?

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quote:

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Originally posted by Golden Key:

quote:

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Originally posted by Chorister:

quote:

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Originally posted by Stercus Tauri:

quote:

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Originally posted by The Rogue:
And the law of engineers and programmers:

Complete the project quickly but make it look as though you are struggling and then pull it out of the bag just before the deadline.

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How dare you?! That's supposed to be a secret!

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Who nicked my undergrad essay writing ploy? Until now I thought it was all my own. Is nothing sacred?

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It's also handy to write and use basically the same essay for two different classes in one term. Sometimes, you can find/create a connection between the topics of two different classes. Then just adapt each slightly. Much easier now, because computers.

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Originally posted by Chorister:
Like Christmas and Easter it will be all the better for waiting. 40 days and 40 nights, perhaps???

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Originally posted by The Rogue:
By the way am I the only person who keeps coming back to the Styx several times a day just to see if it has happened yet so that I can be among the first to sign up?

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No
 

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Posted by Boogie (# 13538) on :
 

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Originally posted by Eutychus:
Click on your post count.

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NOW he tells me!
 

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Posted by Jack o' the Green (# 11091) on :
 

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Originally posted by The Phantom Flan Flinger:

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Originally posted by The Rogue:
By the way am I the only person who keeps coming back to the Styx several times a day just to see if it has happened yet so that I can be among the first to sign up?

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No

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Definitely not!

I just wonder what those who normally give up SofF for Lent have done this year...

[ 15. February 2018, 11:04: Message edited by: Jack o' the Green ]
 

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Posted by Eutychus (# 3081) on :
 

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Originally posted by Eutychus:
Click on your post count.

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NOW he tells me!

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You think that was difficult? During testing at least, the new boards have some invisible buttons

 

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Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
No prizes on offer for finding them, either!
 

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Posted by Pigwidgeon (# 10192) on :
 
Let's not start arguing about who has the biggest button!

 

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Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 

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Originally posted by Eutychus:
Click on your post count.

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Originally posted by Yorick:
the only thing that is truly knowable is RooK’s existence.

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Originally posted by Yorick:
Watch it, Tortuf, you could have someone’s eye out with that.

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Originally posted by Yorick:
I suppose that’s technically correct, since the only thing that is truly knowable is RooK’s existence.

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To all unbelievers, I have evidence.
 

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Posted by Amanda B. Reckondwythe (# 5521) on :
 
That's evidence of a claim that his nest exists. It is not evidence of the existence of the nest -- nor of Rook.
 

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Posted by Nicolemr (# 28) on :
 
I'm getting so anxious for the new ship to arrive that I had a dream about it last night. Is that pathetic or what?
 

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Posted by Rossweisse (# 2349) on :
 
No, Nicole, it is not. Most of us, I would guess, are anxiously awaiting the New Ship. (At least I got back from my overseas trip before it happened!)
 

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Posted by Schroedinger's cat (# 64) on :
 
Rossweisse - glad you did, as we are hosting 8th day when it launches.

I think they are just trying to get the correct sequence of flashing pink lights for heaven, and pumping the tanks full of blood for hell.

It should be here soon. I hope (I am really excited too!)
 

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Posted by Doc Tor (# 9748) on :
 
Just remember. It's a new ship but it's the same old people.

And those people suck.
 

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Posted by Jack o' the Green (# 11091) on :
 

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Originally posted by Yorick:
I suppose that’s technically correct, since the only thing that is truly knowable is RooK’s existence.

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To all unbelievers, I have evidence.

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Originally posted by Doc Tor:
Just remember. It's a new ship but it's the same old people.

And those people suck.

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Originally posted by Amanda B. Reckondwythe:
That's evidence of a claim that his nest exists. It is not evidence of the existence of the nest -- nor of Rook.

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Originally posted by Doc Tor:
Just remember. It's a new ship but it's the same old people.

And those people suck.

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I suppose that’s technically correct, since the only thing that is truly knowable is RooK’s existence.

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To all unbelievers, I have evidence.

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Originally posted by Yorick:
I suppose that’s technically correct, since the only thing that is truly knowable is RooK’s existence.

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To all unbelievers, I have evidence.

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That has no apostrophe, making it plural. Does this mean there's more than one of him?

<runs away scared>

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Originally posted by Doc Tor:
Just remember. It's a new ship but it's the same old people.

And those people suck.

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Shitmates, as the beloved Pyx_e once said.

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the only thing that is truly knowable is RooK’s existence.

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[QUOTE] Originally posted by Tortuf:

I've seen him in person. Of course it was in a parking lot in the middle of the night.

Then he disappeared[/QB]

That was no Rook; that was a Vampire Bat.

 

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Posted by Moth (# 2589) on :
 
I don't know! I take some shore leave to further my career now that the caterpillars are offhand, only to come back and find that the ship has finally got round to setting up new boards!

Is absolutely nothing sacred?

Have I already missed filling in the form?

Do I still count as a member?
 

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Posted by Jengie jon (# 273) on :
 

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Originally posted by Moth:
I don't know! I take some shore leave to further my career now that the caterpillars are offhand, only to come back and find that the ship has finally got round to setting up new boards!

Is absolutely nothing sacred

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Originally posted by Moth:
Have I already missed filling in the form?

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Do I still count as a member?

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Originally posted by Jengie jon:
Normal shipmates

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Posted by Rossweisse (# 2349) on :
 
Yes, please define "normal" in this context.
 

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Posted by Jengie jon (# 273) on :
 
Not a host, admin or holds other responsibility with respect to these boards.

Jengie
 

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Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
I wanted to be normal once, but I decided only people who lack imagination want that
 

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Posted by Rossweisse (# 2349) on :
 
I don't think I've ever been accused of being normal.
 

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Posted by The Rogue (# 2275) on :
 
By any reasonable definition of normal (ie mine) I am.
 

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Posted by lilBuddha (# 14333) on :
 
In AS, Lothlorien has mentioned there will be no signatures.
I am curious as to why.
 

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Posted by Golden Key (# 1468) on :
 
Ditto.
 

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Posted by Eutychus (# 3081) on :
 
As far as I can tell they're not a feature of the new software. You win some, you lose some.
 

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Posted by Alan Cresswell (# 31) on :
 
They aren't a default part of the new software, though I think it's possible to bolt on a few bits and pieces to allow them. We hadn't got around to looking at the options.

You may find that the crew are still adjusting the arrangement of deck chairs after we sail. There is no need to be alarmed.
 

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Posted by Baptist Trainfan (# 15128) on :
 
Deck chairs? This is supposed to be the New Ship - we demand sun-loungers!

Or have the traditionalists won?
 

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Posted by Bishops Finger (# 5430) on :
 
They have.

And the deck chairs will be in the correct liturgical colours at all times!

The Crew will also be correctly vested, wearing maniples, in order to demonstrate their servant status.

I'll get me life-jacket...



IJ
 

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Posted by Baptist Trainfan (# 15128) on :
 
Mmm ... but will the Captain reside at Lambeth, Rome ...

... or Didcot?
 

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Posted by Baptist Trainfan (# 15128) on :
 

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And the deck chairs will be in the correct liturgical colours at all times!

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Originally posted by Bishops Finger:
They have.

And the deck chairs will be in the correct liturgical colours at all times!

The Crew will also be correctly vested, wearing maniples, in order to demonstrate their servant status.

I'll get me life-jacket...



IJ

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