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Posted by Ad Orientem (# 17574) on :

Which fucking planet do you come from? I'm sure we've met before on another forum years ago. Maybe Sparrows or the old NGL. I was "Flying Finn". You were bonkers then but you've got even worse since. Exactly how much drugs did you take in the sixties?

Posted by Anglican't (# 15292) on :

I very nearly started a thread myself. I'm sure her heart's in the right place (regardless of what planet that's on).

But her posts are making my brain hurt. I can understand each individual word, but when put together they make no sense whatsoever. Or am I just being fick?

Posted by Ad Orientem (# 17574) on :

No, you're not being fick, me old mucker. She ain't got a full deck, that one!

Posted by Emendator Liturgia (# 17245) on :

To use a Star Trek term, I'd say she was out of phase with what we consider to be normal time and space.

Posted by Lyda*Rose (# 4544) on :

I just read the exchange of posts between Emily and Martin PCnot on the " Occult & New Age HERESIES" thread.

OMG

[Killing me]

Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on :

Again, Furbies.

Posted by dj_ordinaire (# 4643) on :

At the risk of making a rare foray into Hell, what I can see of Emily is that she has some views that most of us will find very, very, unusual. But the purpose of Hell is to sort out serious disagreements between Shipmates, or to allow ranting at other things.

Is commenting on people's obvious apparent weirdness either of those?

Posted by lilBuddha (# 14333) on :

Understand, I do not agree with Emily's POV, but step from your glass house before throwing rocks.
Every single religion appears bat-shit insane when viewed from outside.
Our POV's have become normalised, so we do not see it as clearly. But to those not indoctrinated, quite a bit appears odd. Cannibalistic rituals, virgin births, bodily raising of mouldered corpses....what is sane about any of that? Sorry, toss in that reality isn't and we need but recognise this to transcend.
And, Emily is trying to engage, not being a tosser. Is slightly odd worth a Hell call?

X-post with the man at the turntables.

[ 23. May 2013, 23:38: Message edited by: lilBuddha ]

Posted by Golden Key (# 1468) on :

ISTM her posts have become more explanatory and conversational, rather than the bursts and shouts with which she started her time here.

I don't share her beliefs. OTOH, believing that God became incarnate of a virgin, and was crucified, died, was buried, and rose from the dead is pretty strange, too.

She's expressing herself more as a person, now. Maybe we can give her a chance?

Posted by Porridge (# 15405) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Ad Orientem:
You were bonkers then but you've got even worse since.

So? At least half the folks posting here are at least half bonkers at least half the time. Don’t like it? Don’t read it.

quote:
Originally posted by Anglican't:
But her posts are making my brain hurt.

I hesitate to offer a solution so obvious, but . . .

quote:
Originally posted by dj_ordinaire:
Is commenting on people's obvious apparent weirdness either of those?

Excellent question. And the answer is . . . ?

quote:
Originally posted by Golden Key:
Maybe we can give her a chance?

We seem to be doing precisely that. Is it costing somebody (other than Hosts, but I don't notice any Host-Posts on here yet) something?

Posted by comet (# 10353) on :

I always love it when you freaks start grading the "worthiness" of a hell call. Oh please. Judging by overwhelming precedent, there is no topic too trivial, no pouting too pointless to wash up in our little cesspool.

If we get to judge quality of hell topics, me first. And you all will be shut down in a hurry.

Buncha fucking babies.

Posted by lilBuddha (# 14333) on :

[Razz]

Posted by Golden Key (# 1468) on :

Comet, you make us sound like a cargo cult! Anyone seen John Frum?

Posted by The Midge (# 2398) on :

The ELITE were bound to supress EWC with a hell call sooner or later.

You bastards.

Posted by Boogie (# 13538) on :

I'm just relieved she has stopped shouting - it hurts my eyes!

Posted by Barnabas62 (# 9110) on :

quote:
Originally posted by lilBuddha:

Understand, I do not agree with Emily's POV, but step from your glass house before throwing rocks.
Every single religion appears bat-shit insane when viewed from outside.
Our POV's have become normalised, so we do not see it as clearly. But to those not indoctrinated, quite a bit appears odd. Cannibalistic rituals, virgin births, bodily raising of mouldered corpses....what is sane about any of that? Sorry, toss in that reality isn't and we need but recognise this to transcend.
And, Emily is trying to engage, not being a tosser. Is slightly odd worth a Hell call?

Nice observation. There might be differences of opinion over 'slightly'.

The Purg threads have been interesting as well as hard work to Host. We've had loads of 'left field' posters here, still do. I suppose Emily has just increased the 'left field' width to some extent (in my case a pretty big extent!)

Eccentric opinions, (provided they're expressed within guidelines) are both good for the ethos of unrest and a strain on our 'normalised' tolerances. You've just got to look at her websites, consider the effort that's gone into them, to realise the sincerity and commitment as well as the eccentricity of views. Emily is not a 'hate pusher', regardless of how strange and wrong-headed her stuff may seem to be.

But there is a certain 'novelty shock' effect when reading the OPs! For example, I had a hell of a problem with that latest OP yesterday, but that was probably more to do with fatigue caused by reading this stuff (Hosts don't have the 'scroll by' option). This morning, I'm OK with it. Not sure whether it will fly or flop, but I've been impressed so far with the way a lot of Purg contributors have weighed in to these discussions.

I do think she's engaging better, now she's picked up more on the ethos and guidelines.

Not very Hellish, but maybe worth saying here.

Posted by FooloftheShip (# 15579) on :

I'm still tired of being subjected to her tidal wave of propaganda, and it's still putting me off engaging as much. Not a bad thing for my life overall, but.....

Posted by Marvin the Martian (# 4360) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Ad Orientem:
Which fucking planet do you come from?

Niburu, apparently.

Posted by Marvin the Martian (# 4360) on :

quote:
Originally posted by The Midge:
The ELITE were bound to supress EWC with a hell call sooner or later.

Ad Orientem as part of the ELITE? That's less believable than a massive donut-shaped planet being in close proximity to Earth.

Posted by quetzalcoatl (# 16740) on :

I remember her from years ago on the BBC forums. Actually, she seems to have mellowed quite a bit, and is less fractious. Oops, that's not very hellish, is it? Errm, Emily, you are quite strange. Hope that suffices.

[ 24. May 2013, 09:44: Message edited by: quetzalcoatl ]

Posted by Porridge (# 15405) on :

quote:
Originally posted by FooloftheShip:
I'm still tired of being subjected to her tidal wave of propaganda,

You are "subjecting" yourself to what you term propaganda. No need to blame Emily; you yourself are the culprit. Don't like it? Don't read it.

I've already been un-Hellish once on this thread, so in for a sheep: Hosts have to read every word each one of us, including Emily, writes. I commend them for their patience and tolerance, not only with Emily, but with the rest of us. It must be due to the handsome pay we offer. Not.

I'm a former Christian, and have seen folks like Emily hounded out of one particular church for all the reasons stated on this thread. It was an eye-opening experience and led to my leaving that church. When people who advertise themselves as all about love and inclusion start circling newcomers and testing them for "suitability" and "appropriateness," much less "bat-shit craziness," I have to wonder what "love" and "welcome" and "inclusion" mean to the Christians among us, and I wonder how civilized the rest of us can actually claim to be.

Yes, I know: easy for me to say; I'm not engaging on her threads. The reason is this: I do this for a living. It's my job to engage with people who can legitimately be described as bat-shit crazy, and sometimes takes every ounce of my attention, along with quick reflexes, just to keep myself and staff from physical and emotional harm. There's a taste of what Hosts must do on these boards. But I get paid (though damn little) for my efforts. They don't.

quote:
Originally posted by FooloftheShip:
. . . and it's still putting me off engaging as much. Not a bad thing for my life overall, but.....

Who is holding that gun to your head? Where in the 10 Commandments is each one of us required to engage with every single poster regardless of how odd or disagreeable we find them? Where are we required to dispute every single idea we find lacking in substance?

There must be other posters aboard with whom you can continue to craft satisfying or mind-expanding exchanges. Why not put your energies there, instead of hounding someone who sets your teeth on edge?

[ 24. May 2013, 13:08: Message edited by: Porridge ]

Posted by Sioni Sais (# 5713) on :

quote:
Originally posted by FooloftheShip:
I'm still tired of being subjected to her tidal wave of propaganda, and it's still putting me off engaging as much. Not a bad thing for my life overall, but.....

Pretty much as Porridge has put it. Hell isn't for everyone, some threads and posters aren't for everyone and certain posters, in Hell take things to another plane.

There are only a few of us who have to read and check every post on a board, poster and subject notwithstanding. You don't have to keep us company.

Posted by Sine Nomine (# 66) on :

quote:
Originally posted by comet:
I always love it when you freaks…

(Why is 'freaks' acceptable but 'losers' isn't? Whenever I say 'losers' Ms Alves jumps on me.)

Posted by Sioni Sais (# 5713) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Sine Nomine:

quote:
Originally posted by comet:
I always love it when you freaks…
(Why is 'freaks' acceptable but 'losers' isn't? Whenever I say 'losers' Ms Alves jumps on me.)

'Freaks' is established, historic, Ship of Fools terminology. We don't have many traditions, but this is one.

Posted by passer (# 13329) on :

Yeah Sine Nomine - familiarise yourself with SoF terminology and traditions, you noob.

Posted by Sine Nomine (# 66) on :

(Yes, that was sort of what I was thinking…But as the saying goes 'You're only as good as your last haircut.')

Posted by jacobsen (# 14998) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Porridge:

I'm a former Christian, and have seen folks like Emily hounded out of one particular church for all the reasons stated on this thread. It was an eye-opening experience and led to my leaving that church. When people who advertise themselves as all about love and inclusion start circling newcomers and testing them for "suitability" and "appropriateness," much less "bat-shit craziness," I have to wonder what "love" and "welcome" and "inclusion" mean to the Christians among us, and I wonder how civilized the rest of us can actually claim to be.
[/QB]

A couple of years ago, I was informed by the team leader of my then local Street Pastors, that I "didn't follow the Bible, and didn't follow Jesus," and she couldn't have me on her team. That's after having had my application accepted by Head Office. (Frankly, I found her views on the Bible bat shit crazy, but she was the team leader that night.) So, I am rather against the idea of dogpiling anyone, even Emily, for her somewhat arcane beliefs. Don't agree with her, though.

And I haven't played hopscotch since.

[ 24. May 2013, 14:27: Message edited by: jacobsen ]

Posted by Sine Nomine (# 66) on :

Actually I was being somewhat disingenuous as I suspect I know the reason. "Freaks" can sound kind of cool - "Hey, man! I'm FREAKEE!!" - but "Losers" cuts too close to the bone, as this thread shows.

Posted by la vie en rouge (# 10688) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Porridge:
I've already been un-Hellish once on this thread, so in for a sheep: Hosts have to read every word each one of us, including Emily, writes. I commend them for their patience and tolerance, not only with Emily, but with the rest of us. It must be due to the handsome pay we offer. Not.

Yes. After looking over Purgatory for the last few days, I rather feel the need to go and buy up the entire chocolate aisle of my local supermarket and post it to the poor buggers who have to read every last fruitloopy word.

Posted by Marvin the Martian (# 4360) on :

quote:
Originally posted by la vie en rouge:
After looking over Purgatory for the last few days, I rather feel the need to go and buy up the entire chocolate aisle of my local supermarket and post it to the poor buggers who have to read every last fruitloopy word.

It must be getting round to that time of year again. Chocorrit?

Posted by Sarkycow (# 1012) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Sine Nomine:

quote:
Originally posted by comet:
I always love it when you freaks…
(Why is 'freaks' acceptable but 'losers' isn't? Whenever I say 'losers' Ms Alves jumps on me.)

Is it the word 'losers' that makes her jump on you, or just you saying something?

Either way I'd imagine it's much like being attacked by a cute widdle fluffy kitten [Big Grin]

Posted by Organ Builder (# 12478) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Sarkycow:
Either way I'd imagine it's much like being attacked by a cute widdle fluffy kitten

Kittens have sharp little claws that can teach respect very quickly.

Posted by Evensong (# 14696) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Sioni Sais:
'Freaks' is established, historic, Ship of Fools terminology. We don't have many traditions, but this is one.

Surely fuckwit is too?

Never heard it b4 the ship.

Posted by Jengie Jon (# 273) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Sarkycow:

quote:
Originally posted by Sine Nomine:

quote:
Originally posted by comet:
I always love it when you freaks…
(Why is 'freaks' acceptable but 'losers' isn't? Whenever I say 'losers' Ms Alves jumps on me.)
Is it the word 'losers' that makes her jump on you, or just you saying something?

Either way I'd imagine it's much like being attacked by a cute widdle fluffy kitten

Yeah you have not been around for a while have you. That fluffy kitten has hosted Hell. It is where we seem to try out our admins these days.

Jengie

Posted by The5thMary (# 12953) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Lyda*Rose:
I just read the exchange of posts between Emily and Martin PCnot on the " Occult & New Age HERESIES" thread.

OMG

I sort of think they're two peas in a pod. Or two pod people, anyway.

Posted by Sine Nomine (# 66) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Sarkycow:
Either way I'd imagine it's much like being attacked by a cute widdle fluffy kitten

She's been taking classes to put her in touch with her feelings. Or self-validation. Or something.

Posted by Marvin the Martian (# 4360) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Jengie Jon:
Hell ... is where we seem to try out our admins these days.

Can you think of a better place to test if someone's got what it takes?

Posted by Jengie Jon (# 273) on :

Nope.

Jengie

Posted by Organ Builder (# 12478) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Marvin the Martian:
Can you think of a better place to test if someone's got what it takes?

From my observation of the Ship, I would suggest that any Circus host who can successfully close a "Mornington Crescent" thread would be at least equally qualified.

Posted by lilBuddha (# 14333) on :

I would say a better test is a host who can successfully stomach reading "Mornington Crescent" without massive quantities of GIN.

Posted by rolyn (# 16840) on :

I sometimes feel like a loser , the thought freaks me out rather .

As for Emily Craig-wotsit , I'd sooner watch the clouds meander across the sky that fix my eyes on something that seems to resemble complete ga-ga .

Mind you if she's managed to engage Bio-hazard in meaningful debate then that's sure to be worth something. [Razz]

Posted by passer (# 13329) on :

quote:
Originally posted by rolyn:

....if she's managed to engage Bio-hazard in meaningful debate ....

How would one tell?

Posted by Emily Windsor-Cragg (# 17687) on :

Thank you all for simply allowing me to breathe the same air.

These comments are very moderate and somewhat tactful--not impossibly unkind.

One comment I got from a member privately was that this place might be able to respond to some new and lively input because it's been too quiet lately.

What I say here is exactly what I say everywhere, so if you think I'm bat-shit crazy, well at least I'm consistent about it. And I mean it.

http://www.holyconservancy.org/NEWAGERR.htm

Posted by Doublethink (# 1984) on :

But do you ever talk about anything else love ?

Posted by Jon in the Nati (# 15849) on :

I will say this for Emily: she is giving Martin PC Not-and-Something-or-Other a run for the title of most inscrutable posts.

Posted by Sarkycow (# 1012) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Jengie Jon:

quote:
Originally posted by Sarkycow:
Either way I'd imagine it's much like being attacked by a cute widdle fluffy kitten
Yeah you have not been around for a while have you. That fluffy kitten has hosted Hell. It is where we seem to try out our admins these days.

Jengie

She might have hosted Hell, but I refuse to believe that Sine is scared of Kelly.

RooK, maybe [Biased]

Mind you, having survived the small group and knowing Grits, I can't imagine Sine is scared of anyone on the Ship [Big Grin]

Posted by Justinian (# 5357) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Jon in the Nati:
I will say this for Emily: she is giving Martin PC Not-and-Something-or-Other a run for the title of most inscrutable posts.

Nah. Martin's always got a core of a point there. Emily... appears to be from a different universe.

Posted by Jay-Emm (# 11411) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Doublethink:
But do you ever talk about anything else love ?

I'd be quite interested to find out how she fares on something she can engage with on it's own issues (not related to the Annukki).

Perhaps she knows of some fictional book titles that can be improved to describe something familiar to us all.

If nothing else if I'm given the choice of trusting between 2 people I know nothing about, the one who I've seen making good points on issues I do understand (and can verify) is going to have a chance of a first look.

Posted by Porridge (# 15405) on :

quote:
Originally posted by jacobsen:
A couple of years ago, I was informed by the team leader of my then local Street Pastors, that I "didn't follow the Bible, and didn't follow Jesus," and she couldn't have me on her team. That's after having had my application accepted by Head Office. (Frankly, I found her views on the Bible bat shit crazy, but she was the team leader that night.) So, I am rather against the idea of dogpiling anyone, even Emily, for her somewhat arcane beliefs. Don't agree with her, though.

And I haven't played hopscotch since.

Sorry you had that experience, and sorry for your former Street Pastor group that they lost the services of someone who's always come across to this shipmate as both wise and sane.

Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Sarkycow:

quote:
Originally posted by Jengie Jon:

quote:
Originally posted by Sarkycow:
Either way I'd imagine it's much like being attacked by a cute widdle fluffy kitten
Yeah you have not been around for a while have you. That fluffy kitten has hosted Hell. It is where we seem to try out our admins these days.

Jengie
She might have hosted Hell, but I refuse to believe that Sine is scared of Kelly.

Well first off, I never hosted Hell.[Point of pride, though, I found out they were thinking of putting me in Hell just before they tapped me for Admin. Man, two way head rush.]

Second, I like it when people aren't scared of me The element of surprise is always an advantage.

And Sine-- I think I griped bout you talking about losers once, maybe twice. I'd forgotten all about it, So sorry if it's been keeping you up nights.

On reflection, I think the reason it grates when you say it is that it somehow reeks of projection. "Oh the cute guy nodded brusquely when I smiled at him at Starbucks, how will I cope? I know, I'll play Spot the Loser on SOF!"

Granted, that is a sure-fire road to success--kinda like fishing at a trout farm-- but whatever.

Or maybe it just puts me in mind of somebody else who definitely used it that way.

Either way, why do you give a fuck what I think? I can give you ten reasons I would qualify as loser by any but the kindest definition, anyway.

Oh, and RooK is definitely my bitch. As proof, he will probably arrive on scene with a bombastic smokescreen of abuse to cover his denial in that regard in 3...2...

[ 24. May 2013, 20:57: Message edited by: Kelly Alves ]

Posted by Sarkycow (# 1012) on :

Cute widdle fluffy kittens aren't losers. Haven't you seen all the websites devoted to worship of them? [Big Grin]

Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on :

(also, living where I do, "freaks" is more or less a descriptive, or even a compliment, rather than an insult. I'm really not joking.)

quote:
Originally posted by Sarkycow:
Cute widdle fluffy kittens aren't losers. Haven't you seen all the websites devoted to worship of them?

People don't recognize the symptoms of pernicious mind-control when they see it.

[ 24. May 2013, 20:17: Message edited by: Kelly Alves ]

Posted by Lietuvos Sv. Kazimieras (# 11274) on :

Meanwhile, who's taking odds on how long Emily will last on the Ship. This will end badly.

Posted by Sine Nomine (# 66) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
On reflection, I think the reason it grates when you say it is that it somehow reeks of projection. "Oh the cute guy nodded brusquely when I smiled at him at Starbucks, how will I cope? I know, I'll play Spot the Loser on SOF!"

Actually I tend to go in the retail therapy direction on those rare occasions.

Posted by comet (# 10353) on :

In my world, freak is not an insult. It's a term of endearment; a recognition of my people. My brothers and sisters and freaks.

Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on :

Exactly

Posted by Sine Nomine (# 66) on :

quote:
Originally posted by comet:
In my world, freak is not an insult. It's a term of endearment; a recognition of my people.

Not when prefaced by 'you' it's not. 'You freaks' sets up an 'I'm okay you're not okay' separation.

Much like a straight friend of mine who likes to annoy me by saying 'you people' when talking about gay issues.

Posted by Lamb Chopped (# 5528) on :

Must be a west coast thing. I grew up with "freaks" as a term of endearment too. And "weirdoes."

Posted by deano (# 12063) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Emily Windsor-Cragg:
Thank you all for simply allowing me to breathe the same air.

These comments are very moderate and somewhat tactful--not impossibly unkind.

One comment I got from a member privately was that this place might be able to respond to some new and lively input because it's been too quiet lately.

What I say here is exactly what I say everywhere, so if you think I'm bat-shit crazy, well at least I'm consistent about it. And I mean it.

http://www.holyconservancy.org/NEWAGERR.htm

Hello Emily,

I don't think we've met, but if you are similar to Martin PC I'm sure we'll get on like a house on fire.

Just ignore the others, they are all petty little dictators with a Stalin complex and don't like people with views they don't agree with.

Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Sine Nomine:

quote:
Originally posted by comet:
In my world, freak is not an insult. It's a term of endearment; a recognition of my people.
Not when prefaced by 'you' it's not. 'You freaks' sets up an 'I'm okay you're not okay' separation.

Maybe you should read it in context.

(reads it in context)

Nevermind, that helps your point.

Well with that, I will just fall back on "it's part of the whole HellHost schtick to act like people in general are a waste of good breathable air" to explain why I would hop on you and not Comet. You're supposed to be the king of noblesse oblige.

Which brings up another point: when you've just got done seeing a pic of someone's 75-year-old bone china sitting atop a hand-crafted Battenburg lace tablecloth in their if-you-have-to-ask-you-can't- afford-it old money mansion, and then you click tabs to see that same someone leaning down from atop Mt. Olympus to decide who the losers are-- well, let's just say that it might provoke in me a round of heckling. Knee-jerk,mindless, sheer envy-based heckling.

[ 24. May 2013, 23:25: Message edited by: Kelly Alves ]

Posted by Lothiriel (# 15561) on :

quote:
Originally posted by deano:

quote:
Originally posted by Emily Windsor-Cragg:
Thank you all for simply allowing me to breathe the same air.

These comments are very moderate and somewhat tactful--not impossibly unkind.

One comment I got from a member privately was that this place might be able to respond to some new and lively input because it's been too quiet lately.

What I say here is exactly what I say everywhere, so if you think I'm bat-shit crazy, well at least I'm consistent about it. And I mean it.

http://www.holyconservancy.org/NEWAGERR.htm
Hello Emily,

I don't think we've met, but if you are similar to Martin PC I'm sure we'll get on like a house on fire.

Just ignore the others, they are all petty little dictators with a Stalin complex and don't like people with views they don't agree with.

Deano, do read Emily's threads in Purg. There are views, and then there are VIEWS. And also don't miss Emily's take on Stalin.

Posted by deano (# 12063) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Lothiriel:

quote:
Originally posted by deano:

quote:
Originally posted by Emily Windsor-Cragg:
Thank you all for simply allowing me to breathe the same air.

These comments are very moderate and somewhat tactful--not impossibly unkind.

One comment I got from a member privately was that this place might be able to respond to some new and lively input because it's been too quiet lately.

What I say here is exactly what I say everywhere, so if you think I'm bat-shit crazy, well at least I'm consistent about it. And I mean it.

http://www.holyconservancy.org/NEWAGERR.htm
Hello Emily,

I don't think we've met, but if you are similar to Martin PC I'm sure we'll get on like a house on fire.

Just ignore the others, they are all petty little dictators with a Stalin complex and don't like people with views they don't agree with.
Deano, do read Emily's threads in Purg. There are views, and then there are VIEWS. And also don't miss Emily's take on Stalin.

But then I would be in full posession of the facts, which - as a member of the Conservative Party - I try to avoid lest it take away from my morally advantageous position amongst the heavens, or from my enjoyment in the mocking of fellow members of humanity.

Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :

quote:
Posted by Emily WC 'I'll keep a straight face if you will. Em'

on the Purg thread
Occult and New Age Heresies

Which gives the game away I think. And if anyone thinks no-one would got to all that trouble for an elaborate spoof - remember Curious Buddhist.

Posted by Lothiriel (# 15561) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Thyme:

quote:
Posted by Emily WC 'I'll keep a straight face if you will. Em'
on the Purg thread
Occult and New Age Heresies

Which gives the game away I think. And if anyone thinks no-one would got to all that trouble for an elaborate spoof - remember Curious Buddhist.

I can't see it being a spoof. There's a history across the internet going back several years. I think Em is just acknowledging that some people find her ideas laughable. She's really rather gracious about it.

But there are other clues to the probable source of her theories in her posts.

Posted by Barnabas62 (# 9110) on :

Doesn't work, Thyme, though I appreciate the concern. She's had published books and blogs out there for yonks, going on about this stuff, long before she joined us here. The Curious Buddhist hoax was a prepared set-up, of course, but the story was only told here.

So far as that specific quote is concerned, it reads to me more like a defensive "I'll be serious for as long as you are being serious" i.e. have you asked a real question, or are you just having me on?

YMMV of course! Part of the fun of this place.

Posted by comet (# 10353) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Sine Nomine:

quote:
Originally posted by comet:
In my world, freak is not an insult. It's a term of endearment; a recognition of my people.
Not when prefaced by 'you' it's not. 'You freaks' sets up an 'I'm okay you're not okay' separation.

Much like a straight friend of mine who likes to annoy me by saying 'you people' when talking about gay issues.

Fair cop. "brothers and sisters" was bullshit. Minions would be better. I may be a freak - no question, really - but I'm the Empress of Freaks. My pretense at equality was just that.

Posted by Thyme (# 12360) on :

I take your point Lothiriel and Barnabus. Though I'm as reluctant to let any facts get in the way of my pet theory as Emily is of hers! [Snigger]

Posted by Patdys (# 9397) on :

Now seems the time.

quote:
Originally posted by Patdys:

quote:
Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
As far as I know, I am an oddity.
You save some quotes because they make you laugh or cry or think. Others for the truth within. This one simply to refer back to when desired.

Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on :

Aw, shit, the cat's out of the bag now.

Posted by lilBuddha (# 14333) on :

Oddity? you can't handle oddity!

Bunch a wanna be weirdos.

Posted by moron (# 206) on :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agZ84jIaJB4

And Emily: thanks for livening things up.

Posted by Robert Armin (# 182) on :

There are some lines by the awesome Joni Mitchell that go:
"Let's have some wine for these freaks and these soldiers,
Some wine for these friends of mine."

However Google is refusing to cooperate, so I can't supply a link. (Maybe it hates me because I pay taxes.)

Posted by no prophet (# 15560) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Lamb Chopped:
Must be a west coast thing. I grew up with "freaks" as a term of endearment too. And "weirdoes."

Hmm, freaks and weirdos. I have on vinyl, Joe Walsh from the Eagles, doing The Greeks Don't Want No Freaks which also contains the song Theme from Boat Weirdos. I think it's all the drugs everyone did back then, which are now taken generally by prescription, but by all the wrong people.

A quote is probably worth it, given the name of the dance, freaks and weirdos, and that there are lots of Boat Weirdos on this ship.

quote:
from my memory, Greeks Don't Want No Freaks
There was beer all over the dance floor
The band was playing rhythm and blues
We were doing the gator and half an hour later
you were barfing all over your girlfriend's shoes

Hands up everyone who knows how to do the gator.

[ 26. May 2013, 01:13: Message edited by: no prophet ]

Posted by Emily Windsor-Cragg (# 17687) on :

quote:
Originally posted by moron:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agZ84jIaJB4

And Emily: thanks for livening things up.

I hope expanding awareness is the same thing as "livening things up" around here.

Em [Smile]

Posted by Evensong (# 14696) on :

It's not.

It's just someone to make fun of.

If I want to expand my awareness, I read good fiction.

[ 26. May 2013, 03:37: Message edited by: Evensong ]

Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on :

quote:
Originally posted by lilBuddha:
Oddity? you can't handle oddity!

Bunch a wanna be weirdos.

Oh, bring it on, big talker!

"Wanna be weirdos" indeed. I bet when you double-knot your shoes it's a high point of reckless living for you.

Posted by Barnabas62 (# 9110) on :

It's a Jack Nicholson take-off, Kelly (A Few Good Men). Just imagine lilBuddha giving evidence in uniform, interspersed with "You fucking people ..."

Thought it was rather good myself. SoF as holding some kind of Guantanamo Bay line re tolerance. Nice piquant paradoxes all over the place.

Anybody you can think of who needs a "Code Red" at present [Biased]

Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on :

...

You're actually telling the film nerd,"That was a Jack Nicholson quote"?

She can do better than that, and I know it. I hate to see true bitterness and bile wasted on a throwaway line like that. so I repeat: Bring it, LilB. Show these amateurs a new definition of Hell.

The woman could make Tomb curl up sobbing with a binkie and a blanket. Yeah, I said it.

[ 26. May 2013, 05:43: Message edited by: Kelly Alves ]

Posted by lilBuddha (# 14333) on :

Perhaps, dear Kelly, perhaps not.

Crazy is constant, but it does not perform on cue.

Posted by St. Stephen the Stoned (# 9841) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Robert Armin:
There are some lines by the awesome Joni Mitchell that go:
"Let's have some wine for these freaks and these soldiers,
Some wine for these friends of mine."

However Google is refusing to cooperate, so I can't supply a link. (Maybe it hates me because I pay taxes.)

Enjoy. If you click the little triangle next to the title, Joni will sing and play for you.

Posted by Barnabas62 (# 9110) on :

quote:
Originally posted by lilBuddha:
Perhaps, dear Kelly, perhaps not.

Crazy is constant, but it does not perform on cue.

Stuff Jack Nicholson; that's worthy of Stephen Fry!

Posted by PataLeBon (# 5452) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Evensong:
It's not.

It's just someone to make fun of.

If I want to expand my awareness, I read good fiction.

Find some Stargate SG:1 to watch...You'll get the same aliens have made the pyramids and enslaved the human race to be miners and the government is covering the aliens up...

Posted by Golden Key (# 1468) on :

"SG1" was awesome, partly because of the humor--something which gradually disappeared in the later series, especially "SGU".

Posted by Evensong (# 14696) on :

quote:
Originally posted by PataLeBon:

quote:
Originally posted by Evensong:
It's not.

It's just someone to make fun of.

If I want to expand my awareness, I read good fiction.
Find some Stargate SG:1 to watch...You'll get the same aliens have made the pyramids and enslaved the human race to be miners and the government is covering the aliens up...

I didn't need Stargate. My dad got totally into that shit when he retired.

So it's really rather [Snore]

and

Keeps bored people amused more than anything else.

Posted by Porridge (# 15405) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Evensong:
Keeps bored people amused more than anything else.

Two questions:

1. How bored can an amused person be?
2. How amused can a bored person be?

Posted by mousethief (# 953) on :

Perhaps it's a sinusoidal thing.

Posted by RooK (# 1852) on :

If you're bored, then you're boring. Simples.

Though, frankly, I'd pay large sums of money to be bored lately. This being interesting shit can get exhausting. No wonder all the cool kids in high school burned out in their early 20's.

Sadly, I find Emily boring. Guano from flying rodents has pretty limited potential for being interesting. Unless you mix it with diesel fuel and add fire.

Posted by Golden Key (# 1468) on :

In aid of boring you, Rook:

-- A descendant of ye olde Big Red Button That Doesn't Do Anything. [Smile]

--From my own list of boring, the Summa Theologica, courtesy of the Sacred Texts site. (Actually, it also gives me a headache, and incites me to run away screaming. You have been warned!) YMMV.

-- Watching and making online snowflakes at Snowdays isn't boring, but it is calming.

Posted by passer (# 13329) on :

Always be wary of red buttons, especially in boring old Belgium.

Posted by Bishops Finger (# 5430) on :

[Killing me]

Nice one, Belgium (and not an alien in sight....I think..... [Paranoid]

)

Ian J.

Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Golden Key:
-- Watching and making online snowflakes at Snowdays isn't boring, but it is calming.

Thanks for the reminder.

Huia

Posted by Lucia (# 15201) on :

quote:
Originally posted by RooK:

Though, frankly, I'd pay large sums of money to be bored lately.
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Sadly, I find Emily boring.

Does this mean Rook has to pay Emily large sums of money???
[Eek!]

Posted by LeRoc (# 3216) on :

Rook is part of The Conspiracy.

Posted by Siegfried (# 29) on :

I clicked. God helped me, I clicked. And now all I can think about is, if Mars is only 12 miles in diameter--who gives a fuck?

Posted by Anglican't (# 15292) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Siegfried:
I clicked. God helped me, I clicked. And now all I can think about is, if Mars is only 12 miles in diameter--who gives a fuck?

At 12 miles across, I'd recommend a black silk top hat, which will contrast favourably with the red face / planet. Perhaps a trilby or homberg at weekends.

Posted by Lyda*Rose (# 4544) on :

quote:
Originally posted by LeRoc:
Rook is part of The Conspiracy.

As if we didn't know that already.

Posted by Evensong (# 14696) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Anglican't:

quote:
Originally posted by Siegfried:
I clicked. God helped me, I clicked. And now all I can think about is, if Mars is only 12 miles in diameter--who gives a fuck?
At 12 miles across, I'd recommend a black silk top hat, which will contrast favourably with the red face / planet. Perhaps a trilby or homberg at weekends.

Bloody Anglo-Catholics.

[Roll Eyes]

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