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Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
Hello to you lot over there - here is your brand new 2013 thread - and a very Happy New Year from the AS Hosting Team.

[ 13. February 2013, 07:30: Message edited by: Spike ]
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
Oooh, it's all bright and shiny and new. Thank you WW and colleagues and a Happy New Year to you and others who frequent these parts.
 
Posted by Evensong (# 14696) on :
 
Happy New Year all [Yipee]
 
Posted by rexory (# 4708) on :
 
My best wishes and prayers for all as we enter 2013.
 
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on :
 
A bright fresh new year – may we all find joy in the next twelve months.

GG
 
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on :
 
Sod it. I turn 50 this year.

On the other hand, I made it through 2012!

mr curly
 
Posted by Rowen (# 1194) on :
 
Happy New Year, from the state of Victoria.
And me
 
Posted by James the Confident (# 9678) on :
 
Blessings and good wishes to all for the new year. For many I hope it will be much better than the last one.

My prayer is for peace, a new sense of egalitarianism and compassion as we look to the world and those in it.
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
And a Happy New Year from us as well.
 
Posted by Barnabas Aus (# 15869) on :
 
Happy New Year to all. Lovely gentle party with other parishioners last night, and now staying inside out of the scorching heat today.
 
Posted by Athrawes (# 9594) on :
 
(Wanders in off the street, looking distracted) - Hello, all. Happy new year, and may it be a better, more stable and less exciting one than the last. (Wanders off to see what the feathered children are doing)
 
Posted by Dennis the Menace (# 11833) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Barnabas Aus:
Happy New Year to all. Lovely gentle party with other parishioners last night, and now staying inside out of the scorching heat today.

Ditto
 
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on :
 
HNY - I appear to have missed its entry, being doped up to the eyeballs with anti-sneeze stuff; but I'm glad it's here, and so far blissfully quiet... long may that continue!

TP and I have purchased the second season of Boardwalk Empire to celebrate and have settled in to watch a couple of episodes a day. Am thinking the Borgias looks like the next HBO purchase for Chez Banner. Meanwhile, with so much time in bed, my reading list is finally getting shorter. Quarantine does have its up side.... [Razz]
 
Posted by anglocatholic (# 13804) on :
 
Happy New Year.
 
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on :
 
Happy New Year everyone, here's to 2013 being a spectacularly good year for all of us! [Votive]

I'm getting old, had a late night and I'm sooo tired, despite my 3 hour nanna nap this afternoon [Snore] My new years diet is off to a good start too, bacon eggs on the barbie for late breakfast and half a bag of corn chips at afternoon tea time, I'm just considering a hair of the dog glass of wine........
 
Posted by redunderthebed (# 17480) on :
 
watching the soccer triple-header and generally loving life tbh.
 
Posted by Arabella Purity Winterbottom (# 3434) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mr Curly:
Sod it. I turn 50 this year.

You and me both, mate! Happy New Year, all, from the city which has been living up to its reputation as the windiest today.
 
Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Arabella Purity Winterbottom:
quote:
Originally posted by Mr Curly:
Sod it. I turn 50 this year.

You and me both, mate! Happy New Year, all, from the city which has been living up to its reputation as the windiest today.
Mere children!
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Arabella Purity Winterbottom:
Happy New Year, all, from the city which has been living up to its reputation as the windiest today.

It will probably turn to rain next week - I'm coming up.

Not a good start to the year here - I've misplaced a library book and CD, as well as my glasses and was seriously considering a year in bed so nothing else could go wrong, then the fat'n'fluffy one ran out of food, which means I have to do some grocery shopping or risk having my toes bitten.
 
Posted by Emendator Liturgia (# 17245) on :
 
This is the 3rd attempt at posting - trying out my new tablet and for once it is giving me the pain which it is supposed to relieve.

Anyway, Happy New Year to everyone - sentments better late than never (I hope)!

We've 'retreated' down to our country place - on the Upper Lachlan River - about half-way between Crookwall and Cowra. Lovely spot - granite country, though: when those babies heat up (been about high 30s every day for the past week), even the nights can be hot. Remember one year when at 9.30pm the temperature had dropped to a cool 35C!

[ 01. January 2013, 19:55: Message edited by: Emendator Liturgia ]
 
Posted by Emendator Liturgia (# 17245) on :
 
This is the 3rd attempt at posting - trying out my new tablet and for once it is giving me the pain which it is supposed to relieve.

Anyway, Happy New Year to everyone - sentments better late than never (I hope)!

We've 'retreated' down to our country place - on the Upper Lachlan River - about half-way between Crookwall and Cowra. Lovely spot - g
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
quote:
We've 'retreated' down to our country place - on the Upper Lachlan River - about half-way between Crookwall and Cowra. Lovely spot - granite country, though: when those babies heat up (been about high 30s every day for the past week), even the nights can be hot. Remember one year when at 9.30pm the temperature had dropped to a cool 35C!

As cold in winter as it is hot in summer down there.
 
Posted by redunderthebed (# 17480) on :
 
These holidays are going fast almost a week until where i volunteer at starts up again. Also the town library is open today again.I have a feeling that 2013 has got alot of good things in store for me.
 
Posted by Cryptic (# 16917) on :
 
Greetings all! Have been AWOL for quite a bit, just reading back over the 2012 thread realised how much I have missed. [Votive] My prayers to all for illness, family, relationships and safety. I've been crazy-busy for the last couple of months, work has taken me out of the office quite a bit, so my lunchtime habit of a toasted sandwich, a coffee and posting on SOF has been sorely tested.

The end of 2012 was Cryptogirl's end of primary school, so November and December seemed to be filled with farewell concerts, or farewell presentations, or some other farewell... Orientation at the new school... Then there was work, work and more work... Church was preparation for Christmas... An unexpected job offer (which I declined) still needed some brain space, not that I had much left...

I made it through the end of the year, finished work, and even did some Christmas shopping. Our Sunday School kids did a super job presenting the annual nativity play, I took the brave step (most people, cruelly but accurately, said "mad" [Roll Eyes] ) of including some live music from the instrumentally talented children, it was a risk that paid off! They were fantastic! Made it through our Christingle service on Christmas Eve, then by 11pm on Christmas Eve, sweating, fever and vomiting. Ergh - Christmas just went downhill from there. [Projectile] Two days in bed, no food, just water, and cordial if I felt brave. The first Christmas in my life where I didn't make it to church.

That's more than enough of me rabbiting on about 2012 on the 2013 thread. As much as we wish the old year behind us, the new will hold its challenges like it always does. I give thanks for this wonderful online community - it really is God moving in his mysterious way.

A happy new year to you all!
 
Posted by Cryptic (# 16917) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Evangeline:
My new years diet is off to a good start too, bacon eggs on the barbie for late breakfast and half a bag of corn chips at afternoon tea time, I'm just considering a hair of the dog glass of wine........

Sorry for the double post, but had to say Evangeline, I like your style!
 
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on :
 
Meanwhile I have been so sick I haven't even thought of opening the bottle of boutique white B3 gave me for Christmas. I simply cannot face the thought of alcohol at all.

A. Truly. Rotten. Virus. [Frown]

On the plus side, Chez Banner has been deliciously quiet. And I have explored some new online mahjong games at very strange hours of the day and night. Haven't heard from B4 since Christmas Day, but did see an online pic of her veging out on someone's coast house sofa. All good.
 
Posted by James the Confident (# 9678) on :
 
[Votive] BL
 
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on :
 
Get well BL.

I've had a couple of days feeling so so after a good few days. Too tired after NYEve I think.

Lovely weather in Thredbo, coping with extended family group.

Driving group to horse riding tomorrow.

mr curly
 
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on :
 
[Votive] for all those with nasty bugs over the Christmas/NY period.

Cryptic, good to see you around again.
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
And as a fitting follow up to discussion of nasty bugs and viruses...

I just looked down to service station and saw a hearse having its tyres checked.

[Votive] for those sick. I know quite few with nasty colds or something stronger. Had something myself a few days ago but it seems to have gone. Perhaps a G&T would kill the germs?
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
Indeed Loth, alcohol is a great disinfectant.
 
Posted by magnum mysterium (# 3418) on :
 
*waves hello for the first time in a while*

Happy new year. Looking forward to the Epiphany Carol Service at the Railway Square mission on Sunday evening [Smile]
 
Posted by AdamPater (# 4431) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Arabella Purity Winterbottom:
quote:
Originally posted by Mr Curly:
Sod it. I turn 50 this year.

You and me both, mate!
Snap. Still haven't written that book though.
 
Posted by Vulpior (# 12744) on :
 
It's great to be starting a new year as a regular member of a congregation again, and I've been getting to know people too.

I'll miss this week, though, as we're up to Sydney tomorrow for Chitty Chitty Bang Bang, followed by some decent harbour walking on Saturday. Epiphany Carols sounds great, but unfortunately heading back during the day Sunday. But Railway Square is closer to the motel than King Street, so maybe, just maybe, I might drop in.

Do they distribute chalk?

Prayers for all sick or in crisis, cheers for those with plans, and best wishes for a good year ahead.
 
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on :
 
Now on antibiotics thanks to a complicating infection and needing a "Barium Swallow", according to the doctor. It sounds like it should be the name of a Space Shuttle.

But it does give me a very good reason for continuing to be anti-social for a while. It's so long since I've been to the local GP they had trouble finding my file. "2006" Said the receptionist. Where have you been since then? "Just very well" was my reply. This didn't help the Dr either when she tried to determine which modern varieties of penicillin I might not be able to tolerate. Apparently I have missed a generation or two of drugs in that time.

BL. Obviously hopeless as a druggie, but hopefully now on the mend.
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
Hope the antibiotics kick in quickly. Sounds as if you've had a heavy dose of whatever it was.

Different generations of penicillin? My file is marked in large letters on the front that I am allergic to it. However, that'a paper file. he does everything on computer now, so I assume it's been carried over. Must check next time I go. I have had annual flu injection but other than that, it was five years between visits. I've been more in the last three months than in about seven years altogether.

Take care BL.
 
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by AdamPater:
quote:
Originally posted by Arabella Purity Winterbottom:
quote:
Originally posted by Mr Curly:
Sod it. I turn 50 this year.

You and me both, mate!
Snap. Still haven't written that book though.
Well, get on with it!
Had my fill of family holiday. Just want to go home, but have to wait until Sunday, and then have house guests for another week!!
Struggling with constant low level anxiety generally and associated aches and pains.
[Votive] BL

mr curly
 
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on :
 
For someone who should be avoiding overdrive, you sound like you have a lot on your plate, Mr C.

I, Meanwhile have been enjoying the enforced navel gazing apart from the still wretched throat - which I am seriously considering calling to Hell.

Tonight I arranged myself like the Queen of Tonga in front of the entertainment console; surrounded by beads, tissues and beverages and managed to make a beaded jug cover by the time Jack Nicholson froze to death in The Shining. The resurgence in creativity is a comforting sign.

And so was the appearance of B4, who dropped in to show off her tan and collect another few weeks worth of clean clothes, so at least I know she's alive. She kindly threaded some needles for me as she passed through.

BL. Still feeling old, blind, hoarse and snotty; but happier than yesterday.
 
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on :
 
Please pray for me today.

It's the end of our family holday, and we're driving back to Sydney from Thredbo after packing and cleaning up after 21 people - there are 15 of us left.

Last night I had what I guess you'd call a panic attack as I was going to bed after a day of feeling pretty anxious, with associated aches and pains and refluxy symptoms.

We have enough drivers to share the load, but I'm tired and stressed and just want to be home. I've certainly explored my limits this week!

mr curly
 
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on :
 
For peace, rest and renewal for My Curly.

[Votive]

GG
 
Posted by Latchkey Kid (# 12444) on :
 
[Votive] Banner Lady [Votive]
[Votive] Mr Curly [Votive]
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
[Votive] from us, too.
 
Posted by James the Confident (# 9678) on :
 
Mr. Curly [Votive]
Banner Lady [Votive]
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
[Votive] Mr Curly [Votive]
 
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on :
 
Thankyou all

Home safely, and feeling better than yesterday. Must have been my encounter with the Big Merino that did it.

mr curly
 
Posted by Clarence (# 9491) on :
 
Happy New Year all!

Sorry to learn the Christmas bug is doing the rounds. I can recommend the following as a means of a good night's sleep and a germ killer:

100ml whisky
Juice of half a lemon
Large tablespoon of honey
Top up with hot water

Actually, why wait for a Christmas bug? Yummy anyway!
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Clarence:
Happy New Year all!

Sorry to learn the Christmas bug is doing the rounds. I can recommend the following as a means of a good night's sleep and a germ killer:

Happy New Year, Clarence to you and FD.

I know I'm a heretic and not worthy of my heritage but does this cure-all actually kill the taste of the liquor? I've been reluctant to try it.
 
Posted by Latchkey Kid (# 12444) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Lothlorien:
quote:
Originally posted by Clarence:
Happy New Year all!

Happy New Year, Clarence to you and FD.
And from me. Hoping to see you early Feb. Have to work out some more about my Marine Rescue talk - length expected, visuals etc. I am now also a Marine Rescue NSW chaplain.
 
Posted by Clarence (# 9491) on :
 
Loth, the whisky is still very tasty! I highly recommend it: i slept like a top and FD was definitely cured (having had the sort of cold Neil in "The Young Ones" would have been proud of)

Latchkey, we look forward very much to having you at Terror's Creek Benighted [Smile]
 
Posted by the giant cheeseburger (# 10942) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mr Curly:
Thankyou all

Home safely, and feeling better than yesterday. Must have been my encounter with the Big Merino that did it.

mr curly

If the Big Merino caused a problem, I suggest you stay clear of Sydney. Apparently there's a freakily huge duck there at the moment [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
Picture of said huge duck on harbour. You sure, Mr Curly, that you didn't get a bad prawn at the big prawn? [Biased]

Have just heard DIL and grandchildren have been evacuated, along with other campers from Kangaroo Valley. A precautionary measure, apparently but fire danger in Southern Highlands, Shoalhaven area is labelled catastrophic. They were there with a church group. Have been going for years and this is the first time anything like this has happened.

[ 07. January 2013, 09:35: Message edited by: Lothlorien ]
 
Posted by Vulpior (# 12744) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Lothlorien:
Picture of said huge duck on harbour. You sure, Mr Curly, that you didn't get a bad prawn at the big prawn? [Biased]

Have just heard DIL and grandchildren have been evacuated, along with other campers from Kangaroo Valley. A precautionary measure, apparently but fire danger in Southern Highlands, Shoalhaven area is labelled catastrophic. They were there with a church group. Have been going for years and this is the first time anything like this has happened.

We have, for the first time in over nine years, packed changes of clothing, papers and a few sentimental items to take into Canberra tomorrow when we go to work. Just in case.
 
Posted by the giant cheeseburger (# 10942) on :
 
I didn't know that NSW had also adopted the same scale of fire danger ratings as South Australia, but after a few seasons without anything coming of it the Catastrophic level is not really taken as seriously as it should now.

Stay safe everyone, and even if you're not in a dangerous area remember to stay cool and well hydrated - tomorrow is not a day to put concerns about energy prices ahead of your health. Just a tip from the experience of some of our friends on Eyre Peninsula a few years ago - if you're packing a case of stuff for the day just in case, make sure you include important ID and legal documents so dealings with unconscionably evil insurance companies won't add to the pain if something does happen.

--------

On the other subject of that duck, is creativity really so lacking on the east coast that the Sydnesians needed an artist from a country infamous for its love of marijuana to come up with that? [Snigger]
 
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on :
 
And not even original - the creator has been flogging the "oceans of the world as a bathtub" for years with rubber ducks popping up regularly in festivals around the globe.

Sorry. But I think a big inner tube hung from the Sydney Harbour Bridge would have been a bit more evocative for most Australians than a rubber duck.

[ 07. January 2013, 12:30: Message edited by: Banner Lady ]
 
Posted by Rowen (# 1194) on :
 
My turn for a virus now. Yuck. I hate beng sick.

And last Friday, our hottest day to date... 42.... Was when I decided that, for this quarter, I really wasn't going to bother about the electricity bill. And so, for the first time in months, I am using air-con, tho not at night.
No fires here yet, fortunately, altho many in my far-flung patrol (parish of several hundred square km)... Not serious thankfully.
My own community is surrounded by farming l, and has apparently ever been threatened by fire.


My prayers go out to those who are.
 
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on :
 
We're watching the news anxiously, and hoping Shipmates are safe and, fires apart, coping with the heat.
[Votive]

GG
 
Posted by Dennis the Menace (# 11833) on :
 
Just got to 39.1 here. Thank the Lord I am not working today, also thanks for air con.
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
This is directed at media coverage, not any one here.

What do they expect? This is Sydney and NSW and this is January. Last year's cooler summer must have made us sissies or something. Truly, do we need a live blog of the temperature?

Then again it's holidays in Sydney and there's probably not much else for the media to carry on about except Shane Warne's manners or lack thereof. The less said of that the better, too.

I'm not complaining about the fire coverage. Technology has given us a big boost in showing fires, listing incidents, giving warnings etc, even downloading outlines of plans for safety. Knowledge of all this helps and I'm not begrudging the coverage.

I'm not all hot and bothered and cranky. It's about 40°C here now. I closed blinds and windows this morning. I have fan on its lowest setting in lounge room. I had an airconditioner installed 15 months ago. It may go on tonight if it's still hot when I go to bed. That would be its second use.

I guess it really is the silly season and the press are searching for copy. There have been quite a few media beat ups lately of things which may go unnoticed at other times when there are more news worthy events around.
 
Posted by bib (# 13074) on :
 
We have been very grateful in Tasmania for the excellent ABC radio coverage of the catastrophic fires over the past few days. This has enabled us to know what is happening to loved ones as communication has been difficult. As I write this another big fire has sprung up near where I live, winds are howling and I can't see out of my front door due to smoke. It is very frightening. I pray that the other states under fire threat are spared what we have been through.
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
[Votive] bib & all in danger or anxious [Votive]
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
[Votive] bib. My complaint was not about the fire coverage. I appreciate that.
 
Posted by Dennis the Menace (# 11833) on :
 
I'm sorry Lothlorien, I wasn't meaning to do a blog of the temps, just bemoaning the heat nor was it intended to upset anyone.

I agree with you that the weather guys seem to have very short memories of recent and past weather events and we have become 'soft' as to hot/cold etc.
 
Posted by bib (# 13074) on :
 
Loth, I realise you weren't complaining about fire coverage, sorry if you thought I was having a go at you. I was mainly expressing appreciation for the information we had been given and hope that everyone keeps safe. [Angel]
 
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on :
 
Yes, there does seem to be a shortage of news the coverage re bush fires is welcome but the beat up re "record temps" is getting monotonous. The weather is hot today in Sydney but it's been hotter and this is a "one off" day, in other years there have been days of temps in the high 30s topped off by a couple of days in the 40s which does get very uncomfortable without air conditioning because most houses can't maintain insulating you for that long and then it seems to take a few days for your house to cool down. As long as the cooler comes in sometime early tomorrow I still think it's been a fairly mild summer so far.
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
quote:
Yes, there does seem to be a shortage of news the coverage re bush fires is welcome but the beat up re "record temps" is getting monotonous
Exactly. As i said, I wasn't complaining at all about fire coverage and I certainly wasn't complaining about anyone here.

To tell people that temperature is now a degree higher than five minutes earlier and then the same thing five minutes later isn't productive . I was truly surprised when temp in iPad showed here was just over 40° Seeing numbers like that makes it seem worse than it need be.

Haven't heard from DIL and grandkids. I assume they are probably at Robertson. I did see change was passing through more southern places dropping temps considerably. But as Evangeline has said, one day does not a heat wave make.
 
Posted by James the Confident (# 9678) on :
 
I like high temperatures, my arthritis stops hurting. On the other hand, one of my colleagues is on holiday in Tasmania... [Votive]
 
Posted by Vulpior (# 12744) on :
 
Back at home. Fire from Saturday night flared up during the day but is ok again. But one of the "emergency warning" fires is within sight. Not coming this way but if the wind changes we can expect the firies come round to attack it from this direction.

Prayers for all affected.
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
Two areas close to Vulpior have just been mentioned as new areas of concern. I hope he's OK.

DIL and children are now home.
 
Posted by Vulpior (# 12744) on :
 
All OK here. The weather did as it was predicted and the fire didn't come in this direction. It's down to "advice" now, but still "being controlled". A lot of work as put in overnight on containment lines by cross-border/out-of-area firies, so the locals should have had a chance for a break.
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
That's good news, Vulpior. When I looked at the map, there seemed to be no fire threatening where I think you are. Much closer to my cousin's, but he spent quite a bit of time in early December, and has greatly reduced most of the risks he faced.

We're now in far-from-heatwave Vienna, where we've taken a flat for a couple of weeks. Grey is the best description of the sky outside through the day. Not quite adjusted to the time yet.
 
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on :
 
Watching the Oz news and thinking of Shipmates over there. I see some NZ firemen have gone to help.

On another subject – our petrol went up 4c a litre straight after New Year. Either they'd all put it down for the holiday season, as they do, or else they'd deferred putting it up, with the same effect. I had the impression when I visited Perth, that over there petrol went up during holiday weekends. Am I remembering correctly?

GG
 
Posted by the giant cheeseburger (# 10942) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Galloping Granny:
On another subject – our petrol went up 4c a litre straight after New Year. Either they'd all put it down for the holiday season, as they do, or else they'd deferred putting it up, with the same effect. I had the impression when I visited Perth, that over there petrol went up during holiday weekends. Am I remembering correctly?

I've also noticed here in Adelaide that the "normal" petrol price cycles seem to have been all mixed up in the last few months. The cheaper prices seem to be happening on weekends now, instead of Tuesday-Wednesday, and there were a couple of during December where it stayed at the low side of the cycle for the whole week.

It was, if I remember correctly, low during the last weekend.
 
Posted by Firenze (# 619) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Gee D:


We're now in far-from-heatwave Vienna, where we've taken a flat for a couple of weeks. Grey is the best description of the sky outside through the day. Not quite adjusted to the time yet.

Can I just recommend the Zwoelf-Apostelkellar . 14th C vaults (don't stop in the first cellar, go down the second stairs), order up a few Viertels and the weather can do what it likes.
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
My brother speaks wistfully of Vienna. He's been there several times, staying in an apartment each time, I think. His favourite city in Europe.

Enjoy yourself and spare a thought for over here.
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
Thinking very much of those who have suffered from the fires.

And thank you Firenze - that's in a short walk from where we're staying. We have been to Vienna quite a few times and like it very much. This is our first winter stay here, and while it's challenging, having the serviced apartment makes it very comfortable. And no tourists when we venture out!
 
Posted by rexory (# 4708) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Galloping Granny:
On another subject – our petrol went up 4c a litre straight after New Year. Either they'd all put it down for the holiday season, as they do, or else they'd deferred putting it up, with the same effect. I had the impression when I visited Perth, that over there petrol went up during holiday weekends. Am I remembering correctly?

GG

Perth currently has the highest price on Thursdays and it decreases daily till Wednesday; then increases by 12-15c. I fill up every Wednesday!
 
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on :
 
Always much cheaper to fill up with petrol in Goulburn when I'm there, than in Canberra.

Still not over this flu bug - I hope Rowen is faring better with it.

Heard from friends at Mt.Fairy this morning - (other side from Vulpior) - they were evacuated, but the fire did not go up their road. PTL. Hoping today brings no loss of life - the RFS strategies seem to be working so far. God bless all the volunteers out there in the heat.
 
Posted by Rowen (# 1194) on :
 
Rowen feels yucky!
Get better soon, BL... Stay cool.
 
Posted by Tukai (# 12960) on :
 
Now back in Fiji after a Christmas-New Year visit to Australia. The heat seemed to follow us tropical people around: from Perth ( a week of >40 deg) to Adelaide (45 deg!!) , and then to Sydney (though only one hot day there). Couldn't even go swimming to cool off, because my mobility and balance are impaired by a broken bone in my leg. So , with a little poetic license:

Poor Tukai had a broken toe
and every where that Tukai went,
the heat was sure to go.
 
Posted by Vulpior (# 12744) on :
 
Gee D, the Herberton fire was 2km from us; it's now off the list. The pin point of the Sand Hills fire is some way away, but the northern edge was very much visible from our place. As BL said, it's the other end where people were more affected and evacuated.
 
Posted by comet (# 10353) on :
 
hey gang - I have a friend in Wagga I've not heard from in a while, and I know there are/were fires nearby. I can't figure out the best way to find out if I should worry enough to call him mama in Sydney. Does anyone know how things are near there?
 
Posted by Latchkey Kid (# 12444) on :
 
Try this Rural Fire service link and search the page for Wagga

http://www.rfs.nsw.gov.au/dsp_content.cfm?cat_id=683

Everything seems to be under control.

BTW. Did you get to Wagga in the last couple of years. I remember you intended to visit.
 
Posted by comet (# 10353) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Latchkey Kid:

BTW. Did you get to Wagga in the last couple of years. I remember you intended to visit.

alas, no. finances caved in. I still have hope but right now I'm focused on other stuff. I promise to let you all know if and when it happens so we can meet up and you can see just how much Alaskans really are weird! [Big Grin]

PS thanks very much for the link!

[ 10. January 2013, 02:42: Message edited by: comet ]
 
Posted by Latchkey Kid (# 12444) on :
 
Free board and lodging with us in the Byron Shire.
Come at Easter for the Blues & Roots festival.
 
Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on :
 
Comet, make nice and you will be sure to get accommodation free in Brisbane, Sidney or Perth area.

Start swimming!
 
Posted by the giant cheeseburger (# 10942) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Latchkey Kid:
Try this Rural Fire service link and search the page for Wagga

http://www.rfs.nsw.gov.au/dsp_content.cfm?cat_id=683

The ABC also runs a map-based update page if that helps you understand it better.

Such a great service is easily worth my 9c per day.
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
Vulpior, glad to hear you're OK, esp as you were closer than I had thought. My cousin's had a few anxious moments, but now seems out of risk.
 
Posted by Clarence (# 9491) on :
 
quote:
aLlas, no. finances caved in. I still have hope but right now I'm focused on other stuff. I promise to let you all know if and when it happens so we can meet up and you can see just how much Alaskans really are weird! [Big Grin]

PS thanks very much for the link!

FD and I would love to come see just how weird, but the welcome mat is permanently out for any passing Comets [Smile]

[coding]

[ 10. January 2013, 10:36: Message edited by: Welease Woderwick ]
 
Posted by Vulpior (# 12744) on :
 
Comet: welcome, lodging and I'm sure a shipmeet here too. Happy to transport you between Sydney and here, or here and Wagga. Come any time of year. If you were coming this year you could take in an Aussie Rules match, in what will doubtless be the Sydney Swans back-to-back Premiership year...

- Lights touchpaper, retires -

[ 10. January 2013, 11:13: Message edited by: Vulpior ]
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
Erm, I'm not sure that lighting things is a good idea at the moment!
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Welease Woderwick:
Erm, I'm not sure that lighting things is a good idea at the moment!

Indeed. There is yet another total fire ban across state today, also Victoria and South Australia, and with high temps forecast it will probably be there tomorrow too.
 
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on :
 
Only a few more days of house guests. Can't wait. Got a couple of reasons to go out today, which will offer some respite.

It has been decided but not yet announced that the passion play will not go ahead this year. We're all a bit relieved, or very relieved if it's me talking. Time to refresh, reimagine and recharge for new endeavors.

mr curly.
 
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on :
 
quote:
you could take in an Aussie Rules match
Much more fun than rugby – instead of piling into a heap every couple of minutes they run! they kick! they throw! That's action!

GG
 
Posted by Sioni Sais (# 5713) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Galloping Granny:
quote:
you could take in an Aussie Rules match
Much more fun than rugby – instead of piling into a heap every couple of minutes they run! they kick! they throw! That's action!

GG

But they only kick and throw the ball. In rugby they do that to the players too!
 
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Sioni Sais:
quote:
Originally posted by Galloping Granny:
quote:
you could take in an Aussie Rules match
Much more fun than rugby – instead of piling into a heap every couple of minutes they run! they kick! they throw! That's action!

GG

But they only kick and throw the ball. In rugby they do that to the players too!
Exactly

GG
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
Firenze , we went to Zwoelf-Apostelkellar for dinner last night. After that, we should be better able to face the cold today. Great atmosphere as well, earns its 3.5 stars on Tripadvisor. Thanks for the suggestion.

As for the comments about rugby - well, it still is the game that's played in heaven.

[ 11. January 2013, 06:06: Message edited by: Gee D ]
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
...with Michael, Rafael and Gabriel on the Front Row and Jesus as fly half!

But if Jesus was playing would it be fair to have God as referee?

[ 11. January 2013, 06:16: Message edited by: Welease Woderwick ]
 
Posted by Firenze (# 619) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Gee D:
Firenze , we went to Zwoelf-Apostelkellar for dinner last night. After that, we should be better able to face the cold today. Great atmosphere as well, earns its 3.5 stars on Tripadvisor. Thanks for the suggestion.

Glad you enjoyed it. Cafe Diglas and Beim Czaak are another couple of places we used always to go when in Vienna.

[ 11. January 2013, 09:36: Message edited by: Welease Woderwick ]
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
The Father is not referee, but Patron of both teams. He has a special throne, normally at the the halfway line, but which will move to give Him an especially close view of interesting plays. And of course, each match ends in a draw.

We'll see about trying your extra recommendations Firenze. Tonight's dinner will be at the restaurant in the King of Hungary, both the restaurant and Hotel being great favourites of ours. We were lucky this time to get an excellent serviced apartment very nearby.
 
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on :
 
Look what I've started. I dreamt that I had been rude about the game of rugby to some enthusiasts, and was apologising to them.

GG
 
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on :
 
They are still here. Had enough of house guests.

mr curly
 
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on :
 
So today I got to make a mitre for the new Bishop of Bathurst. Design specs included: no gold; no braid; no bling of any kind...where's the fun in THAT, I ask you? [Razz]
 
Posted by rexory (# 4708) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mr Curly:
They are still here. Had enough of house guests.

mr curly

Undoubtedly, top of the page restores some sense of normality! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
For a moment there, rexory, I read that as "morality" - it had me very worried until I looked again!
 
Posted by rexory (# 4708) on :
 
But is morality normal? [Smile]
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
[Snigger]

Surely a question which may well spawn a thread in Purgatory would be:

Is normality moral?
 
Posted by Evensong (# 14696) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Banner Lady:
So today I got to make a mitre for the new Bishop of Bathurst. Design specs included: no gold; no braid; no bling of any kind...where's the fun in THAT, I ask you? [Razz]

Cool!

Can I get your autograph now while you're still approachable BL? [Big Grin]

The Evensongs are back from a ten day family holiday on the Gold and Tweed Coasts. Had a lovely time and visited Brisbane for about two hours (never been before). Checked out St John's Cathedral. Impressive ceiling! Shame about the floor. Concrete blocks? Jaysus, Mary and Joseph. [Ultra confused] [Paranoid]

Having now checked out Canberra, Melbourne, Brisbane and Adelaide Anglican Cathedrals I can freely pronounce mine is by far the most beautiful. [Yipee] [Razz]
 
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on :
 
Still think it's hard to top Goulburn's Gothic for a beautiful small cathedral.

New bishop of B is a lovely chap - not that I would wish the job on my worst enemy. It's a difficult brief to be taking up at the age of 62. I hope his blood pressure's good!

Today I am de-velcroing his cope. When you become so elevated, Evensong, that you need a cope, do NOT fasten the thing with velcro, snaps, buttons or ties. That way lies disaster. The first two are too noisy when robing or disrobing in a quiet church setting; and the last two are way too fiddly, and I've seen some less than solemn pauses while wrestling with the haberdashery takes place.

I offer this priceless knowledge gratis. You may kiss my hand later.

Bl. Funny hat maker and font of useless facts.
 
Posted by rexory (# 4708) on :
 
How, then, are they to held on, BL? I have a cope for special occasions, but it is snap-fastened.
 
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on :
 
Trouser slides or industrial strength hook & eyes work better if the cope has a material crossbar on the chest; if it is made more like a cloak then an ornate cloak clasp ( usually large shank buttons with a chain loop, or an antique belt clasp, which is essentially a glorified trouser slide) is used.

These are quiet and secure. Just like good churchmanship. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Emendator Liturgia (# 17245) on :
 
Both my gold and my green copes have a morse (hope I spelt that correctly) which connected via what looks like very tough hooks and eyes; while the purple, white and red ones have more the somewhat more common chain and clasp closure.

Banner Lady - ru making the new bish a matching cope as well? Wondering whether something connoting the dioceses rural and outback nature would look right - browns, yellows, some hints of green etc??? Just offering some food for your thoughts.
 
Posted by Evensong (# 14696) on :
 
Idly ponders how Superman did it
 
Posted by Clarence (# 9491) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Evensong:
Idly ponders how Superman did it

Indeed. I have enough trouble figuring out FD's alb.
 
Posted by Evensong (# 14696) on :
 
[Big Grin]

Sorry to have not caught up with you both.

Next time!
 
Posted by James the Confident (# 9678) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by PeteC:
Comet, make nice and you will be sure to get accommodation free in Brisbane, Sidney or Perth area.

Start swimming!

And Geelong which is close to Melbourne! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on :
 
EL: The cope (that his wife made for him when he became archdeacon) is cream with a startling ethnic fabric border in black, brown, cream and white. It has a hood lined in the same Fijian print fabric. He has some connections to ministry in the Pacific. I am shortening the cope a little, because it has dropped, and have put on new fastenings. The bespoke mitre is made from the same materials, and I have given his wife a lesson in how to make pointy hats so she can make any future ones needed.

When I asked if he was having a crozier made, he told me that he was simply going to use his favourite walking staff. This was given to him by some former parishioners when he was leaving the UK, and he has walked across Spain and England using it. It is a proper hazelwood shepherd's staff with a carved head. When it broke on one plane trip he found a "stick maker" at a medieval fair who could put a new stave to it; so it obviously means a great deal to him. I should think that will go down well in the country diocese.

So when you see the pics of him after his installation in three weeks time you will have all the inside goss.

BL. Purveyor of tatty stuff. Just don't let on to the purists in Eccles who would howl with laughter at all of the above.
 
Posted by AdamPater (# 4431) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by James the Confident:
quote:
Originally posted by PeteC:
Comet, make nice and you will be sure to get accommodation free in Brisbane, Sidney or Perth area.

Start swimming!

And Geelong which is close to Melbourne! [Big Grin]
Comet's coming? And to to ALL of Australia, best in the west too?? Awesome!. Fatted calf on the BBQ now. Will that be just the one, or four? What time at the airport? (I can make any time on Wednesdays).
 
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on :
 
Middle has just returned from 2 weeks at Scout Jamboree in QLD. Tired but happy.

First lot of house guests leave tonight. [Yipee]

mr curly
 
Posted by Cryptic (# 16917) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Banner Lady:
So today I got to make a mitre for the new Bishop of Bathurst. Design specs included: no gold; no braid; no bling of any kind...where's the fun in THAT, I ask you? [Razz]

Sounds a bit plain... I can lend you some Sunday School kids, they're very good at decorating! Glue and those little stick-on diamantes are the favourites [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
Altar frontals here are often sequined butI have never [yet] seen a sequined mitre - perhaps the time has come!

eta: Please note that NOT posting this idea in Eccles is a deliberate choice!

[ 14. January 2013, 03:09: Message edited by: Welease Woderwick ]
 
Posted by comet (# 10353) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by AdamPater:
quote:
Originally posted by James the Confident:
quote:
Originally posted by PeteC:
Comet, make nice and you will be sure to get accommodation free in Brisbane, Sidney or Perth area.

Start swimming!

And Geelong which is close to Melbourne! [Big Grin]
Comet's coming? And to to ALL of Australia, best in the west too?? Awesome!. Fatted calf on the BBQ now. Will that be just the one, or four? What time at the airport? (I can make any time on Wednesdays).
I wish! you know I'll call you, AP. I've already figured out that when I visit I'll have to criss cross the continent to visit everyone I need to.

Don't worry, James, Victoria is already on the list. as is Perth, Brisbane, Canberra, Byron Bay, Wagga, and of course Darwin 'cause I can't wait to harass Zappa and Kuru.

either I'm going to spend a lot of time in flight or on trains. or hitching - do you guys still do hitching? [Biased]
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
They do a nice line in lavender buses!
 
Posted by Patdys (# 9397) on :
 
Ahem, Adelaide
 
Posted by comet (# 10353) on :
 
oops, sorry.

And Adelaide.

crap, I'm going to have to rent a car.
 
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on :
 
Glad Canberra is on your list.

Forget about renting a car - you need one of these.
 
Posted by AdamPater (# 4431) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by comet:
oops, sorry.

And Adelaide.

crap, I'm going to have to rent a car.

There should be a sort of mass-balance-mean arrangement.

So we all get to meet in Coober Pedy.
 
Posted by Evensong (# 14696) on :
 
I can't do underground.

Totally claustrophobic. [Eek!]

No doubt I was killed in a collapsed mineshaft in a previous life.

Oh. And fire. Fire's no good either.

No doubt I was burnt at the stake in a previous life.

Oh. Wait. We Christians don't believe in previous lives do we?

Damn.

Back to the drawing board.

How bout Perth?

[Big Grin]
 
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on :
 
It is with a large amount of relief that I can report that the last of the houseguests have left Chez Curly.

No more Kochy in the morning and no more No Deal in the afternoon, no more grumpy old woman constant soundtrack and no more of Rupert's personal newsletter cluttering up the coffee table.

The year starts tomorrow.

mr curly
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
Happy New Year, Mr Curly. .
 
Posted by Emendator Liturgia (# 17245) on :
 
Ditto from me, Mr Curly!
 
Posted by Latchkey Kid (# 12444) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by comet:
oops, sorry.

And Adelaide.

crap, I'm going to have to rent a car.

Australia is about the same size as the US. You really don't want to drive that far.
 
Posted by Rowen (# 1194) on :
 
Between 5 and 11 today, I will be team leader, chaplaincy, at the Sale Evac Centre... Working with East Gippsland bush fire victims...
My town is safe, thank God.
Prayers valued.
 
Posted by jugular (# 4174) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Banner Lady:
I should think that will go down well in the country diocese.

I should think that will go down well with a nearly-bankrupt diocese, whose previous bishop was straight out of a Wipples catalogue.
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
I'm back - so we had a wee earthquake to celebrate, just so I'd know I was home. Still the weather is better than Wellington was and Georgie-Porgy is far friendlier than my brother's cats.

I've been hearing about the bushfires and thinking of everyone here, but was unable to get online to check.

Huia
 
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on :
 
[Votive] For Rowen and all the people working to fight bushfires and to support people evacuated and/or whose homes and livelihoods have been lost.
 
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on :
 
Hotteest day on record for us here in Sydney - 45.8 deg C.

Searing hot, humidity down to a contact-lens curling 15%.

Cool change now here.

mr curly
 
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by jugular:
quote:
Originally posted by Banner Lady:
I should think that will go down well in the country diocese.

I should think that will go down well with a nearly-bankrupt diocese, whose previous bishop was straight out of a Wipples catalogue.
What do you mean "nearly"?

Anyway, I've discovered I can make a simple mitre for under $20. Materials only, you understand.

I am the friend of broke bishoprics.
 
Posted by Rowen (# 1194) on :
 
I was team leader, chaplaincy, at the Sale Evacuation Centre between 5 and 11 last night. Then I slept there, and have just got home... Nap needed.
I may be needed tomorrow... Depends on how things go today
The most difficult tasks were talking with children, and relating to those who lost the lot.
My team were brilliant. They worked hard.
I honour the Red Cross, who are fabulous, and the Firies... My heroes.
Tanks for your prayers, guys. Please continue.
 
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on :
 
We are turning Shrove Tuesday into an ecumenical fundraiser for the Bushfire Appeal up at the town with the Big House. I hope other churches take the opportunity to toss a few pancakes and raise some dough too.

[Axe murder] Rowen. And the firies are my heroes too. They are amazing volunteers.
 
Posted by Rowen (# 1194) on :
 
It has been decided that tomorrow, at the Evac Centre, to slow things down a little, given today's fair weather. So, they will use local folk as chaplains, leaving us to sleep in, in beds up to 2 hrs away from Sale.
Yay.
A day off.
My service tomorrow will be taken by a lay person. Church Council thought I might be a little tired this weekend.
I am.
Firs are still burning. Bad news.
 
Posted by Athrawes (# 9594) on :
 
Take care and go well, Rowan. Lots of prayers coming from here - my brother is one of the volunteer fireies in Northern NSW. Thank you for the updates from your area.
 
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on :
 
Sleep well Rowen [Votive]
 
Posted by Patdys (# 9397) on :
 
[Votive] the icon is possible a little insensitive for fire prayers, but hey, the thought is there.

I have just spent a morning riding in a group ride with friends. And for ninety plus minutes, I was lost in the speed, the ease and the pure enjoyment. All of life's complications went. I love endorphins. It was a great ride, the whole four hours was fun, but I really needed that ninety minutes.
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
Patyds i have just read a fascinating article entitled The Cycle Path To Happiness by Simom Usbourne about the effects of biking. They put a Dutch man with Parkinsons so debilitating that he could barely walk down the corridoor of the facility where he was being cared for, on a bike and he cycled a loop around some buildings in a carpark without any trouble.

He also summarised some studies on the efffects of cycling on the brain. If I didn't have a bike already I would have gone out and bought one.

Rowen I hope you had a good rest. Prayers flying across the Tasman for all affected.

Huia
 
Posted by Evensong (# 14696) on :
 
Evenson 1 has achieved an incredible ATAR ranking and is to study Molecular Biology and Biochemistry at UWA.

Are the job prospects better than "Do you want fries with that?"

Here's to hoping.

Boy do I feel old. Thirty eight and a kid at Uni. [Paranoid]

[ 21. January 2013, 11:54: Message edited by: Evensong ]
 
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Evensong:
Evenson 1 has achieved an incredible ATAR ranking and is to study Molecular Biology and Biochemistry at UWA.

Are the job prospects better than "Do you want fries with that?"

Here's to hoping.

Boy do I feel old. Thirty eight and a kid at Uni. [Paranoid]

Thirty eight and a kid doing you proud. Congratulations.

Ain't life funny: I had my first kid at thirty eight, and now she's 42. And a terrific person, like her younger brother.

GG
 
Posted by Cryptic (# 16917) on :
 
Mr Curly, how are you feeling without the house guests? Better I hope. I'm with you, I don't like house guests and I don't like being one.

Prayers (with or without [Votive] as appropriate) for those affected by bushfire and those fighting them. When Sydney was affected by those terrible fires in about 1993 there was a service of thanksgiving in St Andrew's Cathedral at the end of that Summer for the volunteer fire fighters. I know such things are now frowned upon at the Rain Shelter™, but surely there should be some public recognition of these brave and selfless people. Rowen, prayers for you and all the other chaplains and helpers that help to pick up the pieces.

Had a lovely morning with Cryptogirl at the Nicholson Museum last Friday. We went to see the Lego Colosseum but of course all the other ancient stuff was fascinating. Came out to the car thermometer showing 47 degrees - I thought it was broken, but no...

Can't claim an 18yo starting uni, but do have an 11 going on 12yo starting high school. This time next week we'll be in full-blown apprehension [Help]
 
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Cryptic:
Mr Curly, how are you feeling without the house guests? Better I hope. I'm with you, I don't like house guests and I don't like being one.:

I've been feeling much better. Have had a few aches today, but its a bit of mind over matter in some ways. Believe it or not, its just about 6 months since the heart attack, hoping I've reached a new plateau. Now only getting stressed about teenagers and not getting enough paid work! Plenty on horizon, but it's slow to start for the year.

Been writing today, rewriting a novel I'll end up coauthoring with the guy I wrote the last novel with. I'm still not making much progress with new work, but good to be taking something forward. Aiming to do some recording for an audiobook as soon as kids are back at school. But making some new stories at speed will mean I've achieved another phase in recovery.

mr curly
 
Posted by Rowen (# 1194) on :
 
Having made arrangements to go off and meet with emergency chaplaincy services in sthn NSW, which needs an overnighter in Jindabyne, I have just turned down a shift tomorrow in Omeo, Nth Alps, Vic. An Evacauation Centre opens today.
Time for prayers again.
Sadly
 
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on :
 
You are getting about a bit, Rowen!

Can you believe you ever used to stay in one city in ministry?
You are certainly racking up the k's this year.

I. meanwhile, for my sins, have been butt-glued to the computer chair trying to sort out prison ministry secretarial issues.
[brick wall]

If I was made for filing I would have been harder, squarer and with lots more drawers. *sigh* muttermuttermutter....
 
Posted by Rowen (# 1194) on :
 
I am travelling a fair bit at present, and xam kinda getting used to it.
Canberra in mid-feb... We must talk soon, to arrange a catch-up...
 
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on :
 
Excellent, I look forward to trading bead box stories!
[Razz]
 
Posted by orfeo (# 13878) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Latchkey Kid:
quote:
Originally posted by comet:
oops, sorry.

And Adelaide.

crap, I'm going to have to rent a car.

Australia is about the same size as the US. You really don't want to drive that far.
Indeed, I'm currently looking at the US and realising it's about the same size as Australia...
 
Posted by Evensong (# 14696) on :
 
I just overheard a newsreader on radio say " In the United States of California . . ." Lols
 
Posted by Vulpior (# 12744) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Rowen:
I am travelling a fair bit at present, and xam kinda getting used to it.
Canberra in mid-feb... We must talk soon, to arrange a catch-up...

Mid-Feb? Just before the footy starts. Would be nice to have a broader meet, if you want to. I'm in Canberra six days a week, now that I've settled at All Trains.

Oh, and BL, Mum has nearly finished the kneeler...
 
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on :
 
Lovely. I'm up the road a fair bit at Goulburn until after March.
Have joined a costume making group in between making clergy tat, because lots of dressing up will be done during their 150th celebrations. BL. Purveyor of coats and cravats, bonnets and aprons as well as pointy hats.

Though am thinking the easiest thing to make for myself would be a scapula to wear over the alb. Sister BL!
 
Posted by Latchkey Kid (# 12444) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Evensong:
Evenson 1 has achieved an incredible ATAR ranking and is to study Molecular Biology and Biochemistry at UWA.

Are the job prospects better than "Do you want fries with that?"

Here's to hoping.

Someone said "I went to University to get an education for myself and a degree for my mother." I think that mine was a bit like that.
Hopefully the education will hold him in good stead even if the subject matter is specialised.
Congratulations to his parents.
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
After three+ weeks in the Shaky Isles we're back to face the horrors of a new computer (why are they so bloody hard to set up?) and, it seems, and entirely revamped job for me. Revamped to the degree of impossibility, and to be honest I haven't a clue what my school is talking about: I am not a teacher.

And it's warm. The weather. Not the computer. Which (the latter) is designed with super cooling specifically for these conditions. Unfortunately it came without monitor, keyboard or mouse, for starters, which has slightly delay its functionality.

So nice to see you all - Comet please do come but think of it as a drive from, say, San Diego to Boston - and now back to my break down.

In fact I'll spend the day working on pre-Pub processes for my book.

And mowing the lawns.

Before my breakdown.

(How long do I have to sit under my desk sucking my thumb rocking back and forwards before it counts as a breakdown?)
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
Zappa , try lying on your back, arms and legs wriggling in the air, and quietly scream for a couple of minutes - that usually helps.

We're on the way home, in transit in Dubai, and not looking forward to the sudden increase of 30 degrees in the afternoon temperature. Nor to clearing the work which will have built up. Maybe some nice people paid their bills and there'll be a cheque or 2.
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
quote:
Maybe some nice people paid their bills and there'll be a cheque or 2.

Given your line of work, I wouldn't be too optimistic.

Temps here are currently in high 20s but the humidity has struck.
 
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on :
 
Happy Australia Day peeps.
 
Posted by Dark Knight (# 9415) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Gee D:
Zappa , try lying on your back, arms and legs wriggling in the air, and quietly scream for a couple of minutes - that usually helps.

Sounds like it requires strong abs.

Happy hottest 100 day y'all. [Yipee]
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
Build Zappa up for a year of unruly pupils and parishioners.

Back home on a nasty day - around 30 here with a fair bit of cloud and gusty winds. But a clean and tidy house from Dlet. If there were any parties in our absence, there has been no damage and everything was cleared away.

[ 26. January 2013, 01:57: Message edited by: Gee D ]
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
Happy Australia Day folks.
 
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on :
 
Australia Day? 'Bah Humbug' is the response from TP. Yesterday he spent some time explaining "Australia Day" from both indigenous and European perspectives to the grandsons.

All week people seem to have been enquiring as to how we might be going to celebrate it. There must be those patriotic enough to make an effort, but for me, every day is Australia Day.

Very, very glad to have been born in this country with all its blessings. Happy to wave a banner for that any day of the year.

[Smile]
 
Posted by Evensong (# 14696) on :
 
Happy Straya day!

I've been here twenty years. [Yipee]

Proud o' my country.
 
Posted by orfeo (# 13878) on :
 
I keep forgetting it's even on. With the holiday being Monday and all.
 
Posted by Evensong (# 14696) on :
 
I was impressed to hear a Uniting church minister got an AC award. [Yipee]

And my archbishop Roger Herft got one too. [Smile]
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
The Bishop of Bendigo got an AM. It's a pity he does not have a cathedral as well.

[ 26. January 2013, 06:23: Message edited by: Gee D ]
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Gee D:
The Bishop of Bendigo got an AM. It's a pity he does not have a cathedral as well.

Someone you know got an AM, Gee D.

Sneeze central down here right now. Wind was so strong I could hardly open main door of building which faces north. I've been sneezing almost no-stop for the last hour. Possibly lots of dust in the wind.

[ 26. January 2013, 07:02: Message edited by: Lothlorien ]
 
Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Evensong:
I was impressed to hear a Uniting church minister got an AC award. [Yipee]


FD? [Eek!]
 
Posted by rexory (# 4708) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by PeteC:
quote:
Originally posted by Evensong:
I was impressed to hear a Uniting church minister got an AC award. [Yipee]


FD? [Eek!]
No, I even checked the fine print!
 
Posted by Evensong (# 14696) on :
 
[Big Grin]
 
Posted by Athrawes (# 9594) on :
 
I believe FD and Clarance are preparing for the arrival of ex-tropical cyclone Oswald by watching their local creek rise and dusting off their flood plan. As far as I know, they're fine, though.
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Lothlorien:
quote:
Originally posted by Gee D:
The Bishop of Bendigo got an AM. It's a pity he does not have a cathedral as well.

Someone you know got an AM, Gee D.

The only person whom I know to get a gong is James Allsop, who well and truly deserves his AO (not an AM). I know who Ron Heinrich and Rod McGeoch (another AO) are, but as far as I can recall, I've met neither. I could have met McGeoch at a school function. Some other familiar names on the lists but no-one I know.

There's a strong wind here also. We just ducked up to a local restaurant for a quick dinner - no food at home and with our flight about 3 hours late arriving, the butcher had closed - and sat outside. The wine was almost blown out of our glasses. And the wind's carrying smoke and ashes from a bushfire somewhere in Ku-ring-gai Chase.
 
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on :
 
Two of my former bosses are on the honours list [Paranoid] . One I'm happy for and he deserves it for a lifetime of generous service, the other.......not so much.
 
Posted by Rowen (# 1194) on :
 
lovely lovely rain
lovely cool temperature...

Bushfire threat eased! YAY!
 
Posted by Barnabas Aus (# 15869) on :
 
Discovered I was acquainted with more people on the honours list this year than I would have thought possible, from the Archbishop of Perth down to the bushfire brigade captain whose grandkids were at the little school of which I was principal. Had known one of them for over forty years without realising his deep involvement in lifesaving, as our friendship derived from one of his other passions.
 
Posted by comet (# 10353) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Zappa:
Comet please do come but think of it as a drive from, say, San Diego to Boston

I am aware. I'm much more concerned about breaking down on some remote stretch, stepping out of the car, and spontaneously combusting. serious heat sissy. plus I'm a natural redhead which means my skin has zero melanin to speak of. I have sunburned in 10 minutes before.

In Alaska.

according to handy dandy google maps, the drive from where I currently live to where I will be living (and where my mother lives, where I used to live, etc) is the general equivalent of driving from Canberra to Brisbane, and is within the same state (though I have to go through customs twice. 'cause we're a weird state.)

The longest single road trip I've done is the equivalent of Darwin to Brisbane and back again. (and for the record, it was for a funeral and generally sucked. there is NOTHING in Kansas.)

I can handle long road trips. it's the heat, bugs, and snakes that terrify me.

PS - deep breaths, Fr. Zap. post-vacation always sucks ass. [Votive]
 
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on :
 
A very strange church service this morning. Priest is on leave and the locum fell ill at the last minute, so a mass without a sermon or communion. it was very short and definitely resembled a hymn sandwich but enjoyable none the less.

In news further afield, the succession planning for the Sydney diocese (partic. for the Abp. after the next one) seems to be in full swing. Please pray as the impression I have of the anointed one is that he makes Peter Jensen look quite liberal. The hierachical complementarian stance of the theological college appears to be coming even more hardline too.

[Votive] for God's love to shine through the darkness of those who desire to make their authority felt and lord it over others.
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
[Votive] For those in the path of ex-tropical cyclone Oswald - seems to be a petulant ex.

O God help me ... I've suddenly become a teacher. Eleven hours a week, teaching "philosophy" and coordinating community service. Last time I was in a classroom you could bash the little shits. S'pose I can't do that now?

I don't have a friggin' clue how to teach, but my school has laid off so many staff I'm the last human left standing. Almost.

Bugger.

And ye gods, could you southerners send some wet and wild up here? It's like a bloody sauna, or a page out of a Graham Greene novel. I love heat, but holey moley this is stretching a friendship.
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Gee D:
Some other familiar names on the lists but no-one I know.

... James Haire has been a big mentor figure (and referee) for kuruman,
 
Posted by Rowen (# 1194) on :
 
oh yeah, me too.
A great guy
 
Posted by James the Confident (# 9678) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Zappa:
[Votive] For those in the path of ex-tropical cyclone Oswald - seems to be a petulant ex.

O God help me ... I've suddenly become a teacher. Eleven hours a week, teaching "philosophy" and coordinating community service. Last time I was in a classroom you could bash the little shits. S'pose I can't do that now?

I don't have a friggin' clue how to teach, but my school has laid off so many staff I'm the last human left standing. Almost.

Bugger.

And ye gods, could you southerners send some wet and wild up here? It's like a bloody sauna, or a page out of a Graham Greene novel. I love heat, but holey moley this is stretching a friendship.

[Eek!] We're in drought here! Nothing to send,sorry.
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
Zappa

Sadly, I don't know Haire. He's one of those who fell into the familiar names but not known (i.e., met) category, and a well deserved honour.
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
As it happens we got 38 mm last night - just a dampening by local standards but hopefully a promise of more to come
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
x-post!
 
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on :
 
Things seem to be taking a turn for the worse in Brisbane [Frown] More floods so soon after 2011 is cruel. [Votive] for all affected.
 
Posted by Latchkey Kid (# 12444) on :
 
No power for our house church service yesterday.
Lots of trees down.
Water got into the electrics of our Marine Rescue Radio Base and made it unsafe.
Brunswick River higher at the mouth than I have ever seen it.
We've had about half a metre of rain in the last few days, but we intentionally bought on a hill, so unless our neighbour's massive lemon scented gum comes down on us we should be OK.
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
[Votive] for those in the Wet [Votive]
 
Posted by orfeo (# 13878) on :
 
I basically haven't seen the news today until just now, but it's looking pretty bad. [Votive]
 
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on :
 
[Votive] for those in the wet.
With apologies – though we didn't do it on purpose.
Apparently the high pressure system that's giving us ten days of perfect sunshine is so strong that it's blocking the nasty stuff on the east coast of Oz from heading our way as it normally would. So it stays put and then heads south down the coast.
Thinking of what's going on over the Ditch takes a bit of the edge off our enjoyment.

Hope the depression can just peter out.

GG
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
All Blacks excepted, it's not often NZ can block OZ.

On a more serious note prayers continue for my south eastern brethren and sethren. Some peaks are lower than feared, but still lethal, and I'm getting reports of some pretty wild weather over night on the NSW North and Mid-North coasts ... down where kuruman's mother and sister live. Unfortunately our phone isn't working so we can't make contact.
 
Posted by orfeo (# 13878) on :
 
GG, that's probably the exact same high pressure system that gave Australia record temperatures. In which case we can't blame you for it.
 
Posted by Patdys (# 9397) on :
 
Prayers for those hammered by the weather.

I have just finished my last career. I get my ticket and tomorrow I start my next career.

This is where I see if I really do believe in a relational ethic and theology... I hope, I really hope I do.
 
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on :
 
Believing in it is one thing, Patdys; the trick is surviving the relational theology when so many of us in the church are just simply Not Very Good at teamwork of any kind. If we were good at bringing people along with us, then churches everywhere might not be quite so empty, and the faithful ones not hurt quite so often.

I am simply keeping my head down, and having fun with relational stuff through my sewing. This week's projects include a cope, a stole and a crinoline!

Jugs, you would love where I hang out on a Monday - a sewing group that meets in a costume shop. It is hilarious fun. I'm just not sure what I'll do if the owner of the shop ever wants me to make a mitre for hiring purposes..... [Ultra confused]
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
I for one would be happy to give up some of this relentless sunshine for some cooler temps and maybe even rain.

Huia - melting
 
Posted by Patdys (# 9397) on :
 
Praxis is belief BL. And there is a bucketload of relationship in sewing. [Smile]
 
Posted by Cryptic (# 16917) on :
 
Thank heavens for some cooler weather... [Votive] for those now being hammered by floods.

quote:
Originally posted by Zappa:
Last time I was in a classroom you could bash the little shits. S'pose I can't do that now?

[Killing me] (despite my Safe Ministry training...)

Evangeline - what have you heard about new anointed one for our diocese? Haven't heard anything myself, but to be honest haven't gone looking. Not surprised that the diocese is looking to be more hard line.

Today I'm the parent of a high-school kid... [Help]
 
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Huia:
I for one would be happy to give up some of this relentless sunshine for some cooler temps and maybe even rain.

Huia - melting

As long as it stays fine for our annual street barbecue on Sunday next.

GG
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
GG I must admit I do like fine Sundays so I can bike to church, but a maximum of 25c would do me fine.

Huia
 
Posted by the giant cheeseburger (# 10942) on :
 
Eight and a half months of election campaigning? Thanks a fucking lot Julia!
 
Posted by Cryptic (# 16917) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by the giant cheeseburger:
Eight and a half months of election campaigning? Thanks a fucking lot Julia!

I think you were going to get that whether they called the election or not!
 
Posted by orfeo (# 13878) on :
 
Yes, and everyone knew it was probably going to be around then anyway, but...

Goodness me, that is HIGHLY unusual. And it's during footy finals as well - also not common.

For me there's the added bonus of knowing I'll be back in the country by then. Although doing an overseas vote would have been novel.
 
Posted by the giant cheeseburger (# 10942) on :
 
It is a surprising date, but I'm sure that the AFL will cope with it by having the two matches that weekend on the Friday night, and on the Saturday night after polls have closed for the day. The big winners there will be the Seven Network, having the footy instead of the election that night will guarantee huge ratings.

It will make the atmosphere outside many polling places a bit dull though, being after the end of the winter season for most school sports and the motive to put on fundraising barbecues being lower than if it was during the season.
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by orfeo:
For me there's the added bonus of knowing I'll be back in the country by then. Although doing an overseas vote would have been novel.

Is it still compulsory if you're overseas?

Huia
 
Posted by Vulpior (# 12744) on :
 
The semi-finals are normally evening matches; I think they will get a boost as the politically weary switch over. I've only ever worked at state and local elections, and would enjoy working at a federal election, but I have to allow for the possibility of finals footy for the Swans. Of course in an ideal world they'd make the top four, win the first week and have that week off, and we're hoping for back-to-back, but who knows.

I'm talking about footy; can you tell I'm getting excited in anticipation?

Huia, it's not compulsory if we're overseas, but if we want to the locations are a lot more limited; just the embassies and high commissions, I think. In fact, it would be good to be away within the state, as in many places the queues are often shorter for absentee voting.

I don't think the early announcement will have a long-term impact on the campaigning; we're just getting front-loaded discussion of the unusual announcement rather than loads of speculation about the date.
 
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on :
 
Huia, just about the only excuse for not voting in Oz is being out of Oz. Though if you were a really true blue Orstraylien, you would find the nearest embassy and lodge one anyway. So there.

Rellies in Bundaberg were evacuated for one night, but are back home again. TP's brother is working for Lifeline in an evac centre there. Family in Mackay, Ipswich and Brisbane are all checking in to say they are damp, windblown and over "one in 100 year" flood events entirely (especially when there are 2 in a row and 6 within living memory) but are okay.

Clarence, please gather yourself together - you have been making rather a lot of water lately.
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Banner Lady:
Clarence, please gather yourself together - you have been making rather a lot of water lately.

[Killing me]

Fortunately 2 cm less than would have been needed to submerge Grafton ... but Ulmarra, Lawrence etc never stand a chance. I suspect kuruman's dad's former house will have very wet feet at the moment ...
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
Today will be the first day of real face to face stuff in the classroom (pray for me - and for the students!). Yesterday I discovered there are new fangled things called smart boards (whatever happened to the nice roller or counterweighted blackboards they had in my day? [Tear] ) so DVD, here I come ...

... on the problem of evil. Theodicy. I like to start with the easy things.
 
Posted by Evensong (# 14696) on :
 
Theodicy? Sheeeyat mate!!! [Votive]

I start my Dip Ed (secondary) majoring in RE shortly. I have three massive textbooks on how to teach Catholicism in schools. [Eek!]
 
Posted by rexory (# 4708) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Evensong:
how to teach Catholicism in schools. [Eek!]

But why would you want to?
 
Posted by Evensong (# 14696) on :
 
Notre Dame is the only university in WA that offers RE as a major.
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
The RE didn't happen - it was an Indigenous class and the Indijkids aren't back yet. So a reprieve. I did however have a double International Baccalaureate Creativity Action Service (aka IB CAS) Year 11 ... students and I survived, but as I don't have as yet a fly's fart's worth of understanding of what they're supposed to be doing they didn't gain much. I put them through a role play and debrief that had bugger all to do with anything, but nearly got them through the double period. I let them out early.

Some stayed back to talk with me. Is that a good sign?

And I've got a talker over the top of everyone else in the class. Is assassination permissible?

[ 31. January 2013, 07:21: Message edited by: Zappa ]
 
Posted by Athrawes (# 9594) on :
 
No! If I'm not allowed to kill them for talking, you certainly aren't. At least none of yours throw desks.
 
Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Athrawes:
At least none of yours throw desks.

[Eek!] Are you issued full body armour? At least, a taser?
 
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on :
 
My sister in the NT has just started teaching at a new remote area school. She was told to leave her last post because she physically restrained a primary school child who was trying to hit another kid over the head with a metal chair.

The indij families concerned were so outraged at her interference that they demanded her dismissal. She was informed she had 24 hours to vacate her allocated housing, and it was in her interests to leave quickly as threats had been made that were being taken very seriously.

School teachers. What they don't tell you at training college. [Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Zappa:

Is assassination permissible?

Have you got a decent long-jump pit?

Huia
 
Posted by Marama (# 330) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Banner Lady:
EL: The cope (that his wife made for him when he became archdeacon) is cream with a startling ethnic fabric border in black, brown, cream and white. It has a hood lined in the same Fijian print fabric. He has some connections to ministry in the Pacific.

If you need any more of said fabric let me know - it's readily available here. Our clergy have copes, stole etc of it too - doesn't go well with sparkly stuff.

[coding]

[ 01. February 2013, 02:28: Message edited by: Welease Woderwick ]
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Athrawes:
No! If I'm not allowed to kill them for talking, you certainly aren't. At least none of yours throw desks.

Oh yes they do. But not in my classes so far (since I've only had one double period). Police have been called from time to time.
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Zappa:
Police have been called from time to time.

but not since I've been there, of course.

On the other hand our students topped the Territory academically, both in IB and NTCET. [Axe murder] , and that bed stuff truly has depleted.
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Zappa:
that bed stuff

[Hot and Hormonal] "bad", not "bed" ... though evidence suggests there's some of the latter, too ...
 
Posted by Emendator Liturgia (# 17245) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Huia:
quote:
Originally posted by Zappa:

Is assassination permissible?

Have you got a decent long-jump pit?

Huia

Maybe a nice game of leap-frog for the darlings - in the direction of the largest cliff? Hmm, treat them like lemmings, and ....
 
Posted by Athrawes (# 9594) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by PeteC:
quote:
Originally posted by Athrawes:
At least none of yours throw desks.

[Eek!] Are you issued full body armour? At least, a taser?
No, but I do have a behaviour management parrot. He seems to be working so far.
 
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by the giant cheeseburger:
It is a surprising date

Really? With all the juicy details and a court decision on one of her former colleagues about to thrust her through the Media gauntlet yet again; I would say it is timed so the worst is over before polling day.

Just a thought. [Roll Eyes]

Of course, that also leaves plenty of time for someone else in her party to embarrass the heck out of Labour, cause a whole lot of headaches, and then give us the usual spectacle of a party disembowelling itself at the most unfortunate time. Labour seems to be rather good at doing that.

[ 01. February 2013, 18:10: Message edited by: Banner Lady ]
 
Posted by Emendator Liturgia (# 17245) on :
 
Originally posted by Banner Lady:
Of course, that also leaves plenty of time for someone else in her party to embarrass the heck out of Labour...

Craig Thompson, Senator Chris Evans - well, who's next? [Eek!]

[ 01. February 2013, 21:54: Message edited by: Emendator Liturgia ]
 
Posted by rexory (# 4708) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Emendator Liturgia:

Craig Thompson, Senator Chris Evans - well, who's next?

Nicola Roxon, it seems.
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
There are tiny black ants scurrying around my bathroom floor. I am three floors up, so hope they have made a mistake in coming this far up!
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by rexory:
quote:
Originally posted by Emendator Liturgia:

Craig Thompson, Senator Chris Evans - well, who's next?

Nicola Roxon, it seems.
Here you go, Rexory. Roxon and Evans both resign. called "live" by SMH.
 
Posted by Evensong (# 14696) on :
 
I'm still waiting for KRudd to come back.

[Angel]


(I'll get me coat...)
 
Posted by the giant cheeseburger (# 10942) on :
 
I like this idea of Queensland having another go round in February with Australia Day II after the floods last weekend.

I suggest that the first time around be retroactively referred to as One Australia day, because like the infamous yacht of the 90's it too was covered in water [Biased]
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Lothlorien:
There are tiny black ants scurrying around my bathroom floor. I am three floors up, so hope they have made a mistake in coming this far up!

I thought you were talking about a dysfunctional Labor Party.
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Evensong:
I'm still waiting for KRudd to come back.

[Angel]


(I'll get me coat...)

Oh, I wish. Unfortunately, constitutionally, he can't, now. Which means we'll be trapped with the Elephantine Budgie Smuggler in September. Which, sad though I am to say it as a Laborite, will only be marginally worse than the Ranga and her groupies.
 
Posted by the giant cheeseburger (# 10942) on :
 
Why not? The faceless men could dust off the steak knives again and appoint Rudd their leader, and if he could demonstrate to the Governor-General that he has the majority support of the House of Representatives (i.e. all Labor members plus four others) he would become the new PM.

I would not welcome a second Rudd premiership, I think he's a power-mad psychopath who has designs on much higher titles than just Prime Minister, think along the lines of "Supreme Leader."

There is nothing official about this election yet, all we have so far is that the PM has said that's when she'll do it.

[ 02. February 2013, 07:29: Message edited by: the giant cheeseburger ]
 
Posted by Emendator Liturgia (# 17245) on :
 
Ahh, the joys and pleasures of a cool day and night - just right for recharging the batteries.

Tomorrow is a big day at church - we've regigged the Purification of the BVM to include aspects of traditional Candlemas. The order of service is done and printed, the music is ready, the sermon sits on my new android tablet (with a paper copy in hand, just in case), the candles for candlemas are in their presentation basket - now what have I forgotten?????
 
Posted by Evensong (# 14696) on :
 
The kitchen sink? [Big Grin] Hope it went well. [Smile]

Attended Candlemas at my local today.

So nice to be a participant at a great church rather than a leader in a different one again......

[ 03. February 2013, 10:44: Message edited by: Evensong ]
 
Posted by orfeo (# 13878) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Banner Lady:
quote:
Originally posted by the giant cheeseburger:
It is a surprising date

Really? With all the juicy details and a court decision on one of her former colleagues about to thrust her through the Media gauntlet yet again; I would say it is timed so the worst is over before polling day.

Just a thought. [Roll Eyes]

It was agreed with Tony Windsor and Rob Oakeshott in 2010, long before any court decisions were on the cards, that the election would be in September or October.

She didn't exactly have a lot of wriggle room unless she broke that agreement.
 
Posted by orfeo (# 13878) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Zappa:
quote:
Originally posted by Evensong:
I'm still waiting for KRudd to come back.

[Angel]


(I'll get me coat...)

Oh, I wish. Unfortunately, constitutionally, he can't, now. Which means we'll be trapped with the Elephantine Budgie Smuggler in September. Which, sad though I am to say it as a Laborite, will only be marginally worse than the Ranga and her groupies.
*consults the Constitution*

Eh? What the devil are you talking about, man?
 
Posted by Evensong (# 14696) on :
 
You mean there's hope?

[Eek!] [Big Grin] [Yipee]
 
Posted by Cryptic (# 16917) on :
 
I've made it through a week as a high school parent - just 5.75 years or thereabouts to go... More importantly Cryptogirl has made it through the first week, although it is year 7 camp tomorrow and today she is complaining about a sore throat, but it's expected of her to be sick the day before camp - regular as clockwork!

One week into the election campaign and I'm bored to death already...


Loth - did your ants go? Ours have just arrived [Mad]
 
Posted by orfeo (# 13878) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Evensong:
You mean there's hope?

[Eek!] [Big Grin] [Yipee]

There's only one thing worse than endless election campaigning, and that's endless leadership speculation. I am SO SICK of every single Kevin Rudd cough or twitch being turned into oh my goodness maybe he's starting another run at the leadership!
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
quote:
Loth - did your ants go? Ours have just arrived

They did for a few days, but have returned today with a cohort of followers.

I now have two grandchildren at High School. Eldest grandson is now in year 9 and his cousin, Miss 12 from central coast, started last week.

I no longer look at policemen getting younger. I just look at my grandchildren. Master 14's two younger sisters started at the same school as he is. Year 5 and year 3. Not my choice but looking at alternatives in their area, probably a wise move. And the youngest, Master 7, also central coast, is over the moon at his new teacher for second grade because said teacher knows about soccer.
 
Posted by Cryptic (# 16917) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Lothlorien:
quote:
Loth - did your ants go? Ours have just arrived

They did for a few days, but have returned today with a cohort of followers.

Hmmm... They must be different ants then. I really hate spraying ants as they are such busy industrious little creatures that it seems a crime to do anything horrible to them. They are mighty annoying and persistent little buggers though, and completely mysterious the way that they seem to come from nowhere, make a trail across your house, and disappear back into a different nowhere.
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
I just saw Jackie Weaver on TV. At least my eyebrows are my own, not from a pencil.

She gives her age as several years below mine, but she was in the year down from me at Hornsby Girls. Does not compute.
 
Posted by Patdys (# 9397) on :
 
Was she accelerated or did you fail a few? [Razz]
 
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Cryptic:
quote:
Originally posted by Lothlorien:
quote:
Loth - did your ants go? Ours have just arrived

They did for a few days, but have returned today with a cohort of followers.

Hmmm... They must be different ants then. I really hate spraying ants as they are such busy industrious little creatures that it seems a crime to do anything horrible to them. They are mighty annoying and persistent little buggers though, and completely mysterious the way that they seem to come from nowhere, make a trail across your house, and disappear back into a different nowhere.
We're lucky to have no ants but we did have a large weta (say 5 cm body) appear in the middle of the passage this morning. Did s/he (didn't attempt to sex it though I guess the female has an ovipositor) come in when we had the door open to get a breeze through the house? Wouldn't step nicely on to my hand so I had to get the dustpan and take it to a leafy spot outside. The Grandad kept his distance, having been a child in Egypt where insects must have been scarier than ours, or so I assume.
A weta is a gentle beast unless it's stressed, when a bucket or a dustpan is sensible.

GG
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Patdys:
Was she accelerated or did you fail a few? [Razz]

I think her memory is failing her. You probably don't know re NSW schools but Hornsby, North Sydney Girls and Sydney Girls battled it out each year for top selective girls' school. Academically, sporting choral etc. Not much has changed, another couple get a look in nowadays in state system.
 
Posted by rexory (# 4708) on :
 
Maybe you're younger than you think, Loth! Wikipedia says she was born 25th May, 1947.
 
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on :
 
Our letter was being moved into this afternoon by some ants and their eggs. By some, I mean a lot. Had to dispatch them.

Getting on with the writing this week. Still waiting for some paid work to eventuate, but looking good. Feeling much better in all ways last couple of weeks.

mr curly
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
There's a black dog sniffing at my heels.

[ 05. February 2013, 10:39: Message edited by: Zappa ]
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by orfeo:
quote:
Originally posted by Evensong:
You mean there's hope?

[Eek!] [Big Grin] [Yipee]

There's only one thing worse than endless election campaigning, and that's endless leadership speculation. I am SO SICK of every single Kevin Rudd cough or twitch being turned into oh my goodness maybe he's starting another run at the leadership!
So is he.
 
Posted by the giant cheeseburger (# 10942) on :
 
I can't imagine Kevin Rudd ever being sick of attention linking him to positions of power.
 
Posted by Emendator Liturgia (# 17245) on :
 
My deep thanks to everyone who has offered prayers and/or best wishes to me for my prostate cancer treatment.

I saw my specialist today and the surgery is booked for 6th March. Not looking forward to the following 2 weeks or so, especially with have to wear a bag for the period - never had to do anything like that and the mental image (against the physical reality) is the worse part for me to come to grips with at this stage.

Will keep you posted - at least the three days in hospital then the recouperation period will enable me to read those novels sitting on my tablet. [Smile]
 
Posted by Evensong (# 14696) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Zappa:
quote:
Originally posted by orfeo:
quote:
Originally posted by Evensong:
You mean there's hope?

[Eek!] [Big Grin] [Yipee]

There's only one thing worse than endless election campaigning, and that's endless leadership speculation. I am SO SICK of every single Kevin Rudd cough or twitch being turned into oh my goodness maybe he's starting another run at the leadership!
So is he.
ABC news at 7:30 am on the radio started off talking about the election with a hymn! A couple of lines of "how great thou art" or some such. A hymn!! I was blown over whilst driving my son to school.

Then we got the Rudd voice saying "Give it a rest".

But the papers are full of it today.

I honestly can't believe it has resurfaced again. Totally bizarre.

But (to quote a thrift shop singer) if it actually happened, it would be ****ing awesome.
[Big Grin]
 
Posted by rexory (# 4708) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Zappa:
There's a black dog sniffing at my heels.

Not good! Thinking of you and [Votive] ascending.
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
[Votive] Zappa [Votive]
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
[Votive] [Votive] [Votive] from us to you, Zappa
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
[Votive] Emendator Liturgia

I'll be okay ... the job is not quite my forte and it's kinda eating me up. Full day teaching today. I am NOT a fucking teacher.
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
Sorry - I was a little more eloquent than usual. [Hot and Hormonal]
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Zappa:
Sorry - I was a little more eloquent than usual. [Hot and Hormonal]

Prayers always help Zappa.

I've had a black puppy for a while but he seems to be elsewhere for the last few days.
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
[Votive] for black puppy ... never like them to be awol

In a hilarious twist of divine serendipity the prayers for my situation may have been answered ... I accidentally let a class out early, it seems, because the clock in the classroom was fast (and I don't always hear the bell). Consequently the entire senior management have gone into a panic and realized that I am really not nor wanting to be a teacher [Yipee]

Funnily enough my four classes today went quite well ... though I hated every minute of it.

As the school is tight for dollars they may downsize my hours too, which is fine, because the parish can re-upsize to compensate. [Cliché alert] It's a win win situation [/cliché]

Egad, Athrawes, I do not know how you do it. I think I have the Boomtown Rats approach to teaching.

Oh, there is a God.
 
Posted by Athrawes (# 9594) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Zappa:
[Votive] Emendator Liturgia

I'll be okay ... the job is not quite my forte and it's kinda eating me up. Full day teaching today. I am NOT a fucking teacher.

I am, and after today, I feel like it's eating me up too. The parrot stopped the desk being thrown, but I did have to evacuate the class while the GO worked with student. Not sure if I can do a full year of this.
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
Prayers for you and your surgeons, Emli.
 
Posted by Cryptic (# 16917) on :
 
[Votive] for Emli...

[Votive] also that all the black dogs may turn into cute fluffy puppies...
 
Posted by Barnabas Aus (# 15869) on :
 
Huia, your extinct namesake was the feature article on the main page of Wikipedia today. Not having encountered the species before, I found the article fascinating.
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
Thanks Barnabas, it fascinated my younger brother too (from whom I owe my nterest in it). When we were growing up there was a slim chance that it may not be extinct, after all the takahe had been re-discovered 50 years after it was last seen. The bloke who found it was on TV on the 50th anniversary of his discovery, beaming all over his face. He had been taken to the place in the Murchison range by helicopter and picked one up, as he did when he discovered them. "This one bit me too," he said happily.

Zappa, teaching is one of the worst things to do if you don't enjoy it. I hope your hours are sorted to your satisfaction.

Athrawes - it sounds like the parrot could do with a raise.
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
We'll see how the black puppy goes today. Full school assembly this morning. I get a four minute slot, into which I will condense the story of David and Bathsheba. Sex, betrayal, violence ... (and redemption). I may not have a job at all after that!
 
Posted by Patdys (# 9397) on :
 
Probably get tenure.
 
Posted by Barnabas Aus (# 15869) on :
 
Zappa, I have been to those depths when under attack from parents as principal of a small school. By the grace of God and with the support of family, the parishioners, other staff and the other parents at the school who knew the background I got through the trough and came out the other side. The attackers decamped elsewhere while I remained. I pray that the school executive come to their collective senses, and use your skills effectively.
 
Posted by Emendator Liturgia (# 17245) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Barnabas Aus:
I pray that the school executive come to their collective senses, and use your skills effectively.

AMEN to that - unfortunately, not all school councils are so gifted with wisdom, courage and insght!

[Votive] Candles ablaze for you, Zappa!

PS Just had a read of your bio in the Australian Stud Directory!
 
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on :
 
Orfeo; and other Canberra area shippies, Rowen is in town for one night only on Feb 18th. We shall do dinner in inner Canberra somewhere. Head count needed please. Vulpior is in, and so are TP & I. Anyone else?
 
Posted by Emendator Liturgia (# 17245) on :
 
Thanks everyone for the prayers - latest news is that surgery (now via keyhole + robotics) is Wednesday next week - so not as longto wait, and recovery time is expected to be much faster. Back into the groove of things much quicker, which is a blessing i.e. I am not a patient patient!
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
[Votive] Em. Hope all goes well.

I have just watched a fair part of the day/night cricket. I hope the Australians' batting is more inspired that heir fielding. I remembered the good catches taken by the WI a couple of days ago.

Then I looked at Watson and thought of dinosaurs having a second brain. He needs one near his feet. Slower than a wet week to get moving and a coupler of times he did not even seem to realise ball was whizzing past him on way to boundary.

quote:
i.e. I am not a patient patient!
I know few men who are. [Big Grin]

[ 08. February 2013, 06:33: Message edited by: Lothlorien ]
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
quote:
quote:
i.e. I am not a patient patient!
I know few men who are. [Big Grin]
To be fair, Loth, I instinctively mistrust anyone who IS a patient patient [Devil] I suspect them of milking it and retiring to the couch like a Victorian lady with the vapours, or that awful uncle in Wilkie Collins' the Woman in White.

Mrs. S, not cut out for patient care

[ 09. February 2013, 02:55: Message edited by: Welease Woderwick ]
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
Emli, we have friends who had the op in the old days, and those who have had the keyhole and robot technique. Comparing accounts, the new method is faster, easier and leads to a much shorter recuperation. Given all that, the consensus of both groups is that you should try to be as fit as possible beforehand, doing at least an hour's non-stop walking each day.

I had a bit of a scare 4 years or so ago, and chatted to some about the op. Fortunately, the TRUB* showed nothing to be worried about and medication attended to the problem. I still have 6 monthly PSA tests though.

*TRUB - trans-rectal ultrasound guided biopsy. Not pleasant at all, but the diagnosis it gave made up for the procedure.
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
I am old enough to know better. Today was a gathering of friends at Bowral. After next to no sleep last night and being awake since 3:00 am. I made lunch to share and had little breakfast. I usually have muesli and fruit.

Friend arrived late, also tired. I could hardly stay awake when we were having morning tea and talking and when I got up at lunchtime, I just missed fainting. No sleep, little food, little water. A pattern I'm familiar with. I did it once at church on christmas Day after several very late nights.

I have caught up on water and feel sort of OK but will be in bed very early tonight, I guess.
 
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on :
 
Take care, Loth. Sleep well.

GG
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
Loth, I hope you have a good sleep.

I'm feeling a bit disturbed. I have developed some symptoms that can indicate the presence of a serious condition, but on the other handmay just be a small medical blip of no account.

Thank goodness my GP (a part-timer) is available all day Monday.

Huia
 
Posted by Patdys (# 9397) on :
 
For rest and peace.
 
Posted by Barnabas Aus (# 15869) on :
 
I notice that BL's work for ****** Ian has made it to the web here
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Barnabas Aus:
I notice that BL's work for ****** Ian has made it to the web here

I couldn't get your link to work. Was this what you had in mind?
I hope BL is making a list of such press releases.


welcome to new ****** I thought it might be because terms ecclesiastical seem to have aroused the attention ofd others here. They have been replaced by ****. However, I think this link works.

[ 11. February 2013, 10:53: Message buggered about with by: Lothlorien ]
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
In the link I posted above, there is another link to a slideshow of photos from the occasion.
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
Whoever has the brain bleach, please send it to me ASAP.

I was just served by a waiter in a suburban coffee shop in shopping centre. He was short and dumpy with rolls of fat. Dressed in horizontally striped, very tight, almost transparent, lycra bike shorts. [Eek!]
 
Posted by Sioni Sais (# 5713) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Lothlorien:
Whoever has the brain bleach, please send it to me ASAP.

I was just served by a waiter in a suburban coffee shop in shopping centre. He was short and dumpy with rolls of fat. Dressed in horizontally striped, very tight, almost transparent, lycra bike shorts. [Eek!]

Part of the Anglo-Australia student exchange scheme. You send us handsome & beautiful Bruces and Sheilas, we send you our lumpen Kyles and Jodies.

Sorry.
 
Posted by Latchkey Kid (# 12444) on :
 
Up at Terrors Creek on Friday to give a talk on Marine Rescue. Foaming Draught asked to be remembered to you all. Sadly, did not get to see Clarence who is city hopping for work.

Missed my church as I was north of the border seeing Miss Daisy being driven. But I did get to St Andrews and had an after service morning tea with five Sri Lankan Sinhalese boat people who were nearing the end of their 6 weeks provided accommodation in a backpackers and now have to find their own place on a partial newstart allowance, but are not allowed to get paid employment.
 
Posted by Rowen (# 1194) on :
 
The local A*******s did a great pancake lunch. It was well-attended and delicious.
We are having the first ever UCA Ash Wednesday service here tomorrow. Folk are quite curious. H*** some turn up.
 
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on :
 
We had a great Pancake Day up at the Big House, with lots of other churches coming along to join in the fun. The good thing about living in one city and working in another is that I don't care if the photo of me in a silly bonnet flipping a pancake is on the front page there tomorrow. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
Black puppy in abeyance now ... a kind of neutral abeyance. I've been dropped from the teaching roster like the proverbial hot potato, and they've had to bring in a new teacher to replace me ... I really need to get out, as I'm back to being little more than a liturgical ring-in (for liturgies most people resent). No counseling, of course, as the school psychologist holds all that utterly with in his orbit and considers anyone else infradig, meddling and incompetent.

Life is complex at the moment, in fact.
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Emendator Liturgia:
Originally posted by Barnabas Aus:
Just had a read of your bio in the Australian Stud Directory!

I've looked everywhere for Zappa in there and can't find him [Confused]

[Votive] for the faint and weary and unwell ...

[done it for you [Big Grin] ]

[ 14. February 2013, 02:19: Message edited by: Welease Woderwick ]
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
Oh bother - got distracted and can't get back to fix the code [Hot and Hormonal]
 
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Zappa:
Black puppy in abeyance now ... a kind of neutral abeyance. I've been dropped from the teaching roster like the proverbial hot potato,

Was it David and Bathsheba that did the trick?
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
No - though funnily enough I had an intimate encounter with Samson and Delilah yesterday ...
 
Posted by orfeo (# 13878) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Banner Lady:
Orfeo; and other Canberra area shippies, Rowen is in town for one night only on Feb 18th. We shall do dinner in inner Canberra somewhere. Head count needed please. Vulpior is in, and so are TP & I. Anyone else?

Just saw this. 18th? Monday! Yes I could do Monday.
 
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on :
 
So, Host's choice for the eatery. Stay tuned!
 
Posted by Rowen (# 1194) on :
 
Sounds good.
I get to meet real people and see traffic lights and cars and city lights and crowds and traffic lights and ooooohhhh.
I need to go away and recover from the excitement even before it happens!
But seriously, good.
 
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on :
 
What is not good is the massive sinus infection I have at the moment. Woke up yesterday feeling like someone had punched me in the nose during the night. Spent all day wondering how I'd hurt myself. Now that the nose is so swollen my brain hurts and my eyes are watering, I have realized it's time to find a doctor. And of course it's Saturday. Bugger.
 
Posted by orfeo (# 13878) on :
 
If it's lights and crowds we're after, perhaps one of the places in and around North Quarter is the go?
 
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on :
 
PTL for drugs. Now have antibiotics and serious painkillers inside me. Starting to feel like I might want to live for a bit longer - though it still feels like I have a proboscus the size of an avocado.
 
Posted by Vulpior (# 12744) on :
 
[Votive] BL.

W're still in. In your hands for time, location, etc.
 
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on :
 
OK. Hog's Breath Cafe, Woden, 6pm. Menu here.
Any other shippies reading this and in the vicinity are welcome to join us in the pigpen. I shall fit right in!
[Big Grin]
 
Posted by orfeo (# 13878) on :
 
Woden! Okay then, see you there, hopefully on time...
 
Posted by Rowen (# 1194) on :
 
I will go direct to Woden... Look forward to seeing u all there
 
Posted by Vulpior (# 12744) on :
 
We'll be there. Looking forward to it too.
 
Posted by Rowen (# 1194) on :
 
You do all realise I come from the darkest depths of the country? And may be overcome by the joy of it all? Lol
 
Posted by jugular (# 4174) on :
 
You know, I do try to keep up with goings on here - I just don't post as often as I ought. Interestingly, I have been on the ship for ten years this month. It's been quite a ride.

Something that is, at least in part, inspired by The Ship, is a little project I'm doing called Pirate Church. It will be at the Melbourne International Comedy Festival, 3-13 April. There are also Newcastle and Sydney shows on 14 and 15 April respectively.

So anyway, I just wanted youse to know so that if you're around those areas, you can come see and bring many dozens of paying friends.
 
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by jugular:
You know, I do try to keep up with goings on here - I just don't post as often as I ought. Interestingly, I have been on the ship for ten years this month. It's been quite a ride.

Something that is, at least in part, inspired by The Ship, is a little project I'm doing called Pirate Church. It will be at the Melbourne International Comedy Festival, 3-13 April. There are also Newcastle and Sydney shows on 14 and 15 April respectively.

So anyway, I just wanted youse to know so that if you're around those areas, you can come see and bring many dozens of paying friends.

Let us know the dates of your New Zealand tour.

GG
 
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on :
 
What? Not coming to Canberra, Jugs? The Pirate Capitol of Oz???? [Frown]
 
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on :
 
Do keep us posted on when you're coming to Sydney, maybe we could organise a meet to come see your show.
 
Posted by orfeo (# 13878) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Banner Lady:
What? Not coming to Canberra, Jugs? The Pirate Capitol of Oz???? [Frown]

I'm trying to work out how on earth you came up with that title for our fair, landlocked city.
 
Posted by Patdys (# 9397) on :
 
Full of Aaaarrrrrrrrr souls? No wait, that's Adelaide.
 
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Evangeline:
Do keep us posted on when you're coming to Sydney, maybe we could organise a meet to come see your show.

Preach it sister!

mr curly
 
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on :
 
Thanks to Vulpior & partner, Orfeo, Rowen & Worm in the Grass who all made it to Hogs Breath along with TP & I for a shipmeet.

I'm afraid the fish burgers disagreed with TP & I, especially TP, so we made a rather precipitate exit. Sorry about that! Hope everyone else is ok - be glad you didn't pick the fish, shippies. I am now about to curl up with my sleepy drugs again, and dream of having a normal sized nose. [Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by orfeo (# 13878) on :
 
Sorry to hear that. My salmon shows no signs so far of disagreeing with me, but you had a different species.
 
Posted by Rowen (# 1194) on :
 
It was a good meet
 
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on :
 
Yes. Choose meat if you're going to Hog's Breath. TP's comment, after a night of heartburn was: "Well, that's what you get for going to a Bogan Restaurant."

And that's what you get if you leave the choice to a Bogan. Next time, someone else choose the venue! [Disappointed]
 
Posted by Vulpior (# 12744) on :
 
Thanks for organising, BL, and sorry you suffered for it. Good to meet the locals and, of course, our honoured guest.
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Banner Lady:
Thanks to Vulpior & partner, Orfeo, Rowen & Worm in the Grass who all made it to Hogs Breath along with TP & I for a shipmeet.

We were there too. In spirit. Except it was the wrong Hogs Breath. Nice dinner but. In honour of kuruzapplet # 1's attainment of teenhood.
 
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on :
 
Glad it was a good time Zappa. I think because TP has been on such a low salt, low fat diet for so long (he has haemochromotosis), doing something as ordinary as battered fish with bun and chips really knocked him about.

Now rapidly devolving in his memory to "the night you tried to kill me in front of your SoF friends". [Disappointed]

He was the one who chose from the menu. I have witnesses!!!
 
Posted by orfeo (# 13878) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Banner Lady:
He was the one who chose from the menu. I have witnesses!!!

Absolutely! He rushed into danger before any of us had a chance to stop him!
 
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on :
 
Surely, one should be exempt from Dentistry for at least a year after having a heart attack. [Roll Eyes]

Man, it's busy. Writin a new cricket parody blog, trying to finish a series of novellas, edit a novel, run a house and somehow wishing for some more paid work.

Ooh, and heading to Perf in late March for Mr Curly Senior's 80th birthday. We could meet.

mr curly
 
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by orfeo:
quote:
Originally posted by Banner Lady:
He was the one who chose from the menu. I have witnesses!!!

Absolutely! He rushed into danger before any of us had a chance to stop him!
And here they are.

Sorry its taken me so long to put this up. Bit snowed under with other deadlines and hurting stuff. All better now. [Smile]
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
Today is the second anniversary of the fatal earthquake in Christchurch.

Sometimes it seems as if the two years have lasted a lifetime.

Huia
 
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Huia:
Today is the second anniversary of the fatal earthquake in Christchurch.

Sometimes it seems as if the two years have lasted a lifetime.

Huia

Next road cone I see I'll stick a flower in it.

GG
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
Touching survivors' story in an NZ paper.

[Votive]
 
Posted by Latchkey Kid (# 12444) on :
 
Gale now on of which i have never seen the like.

The rain is lashing the house from the west and making a mockery of the protection of the covered outdoor areas.

Just called the hospital to cancel my confirmation of 30 mins agao that I would be there to talk to the nursing staff on the role of Chaplaincy in the Hospital.

All windows closed.

I have a retreat in Brisbane tomorrow for the start of my Diploma, but I doubt we will make it there tonight.
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
I just checked the radar and warnings for up your way. Pretty impressive. Stay safe inside.
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Zappa:
Touching survivors' story in an NZ paper.

[Votive]

All kinds of stories of survival and heroism are only now being revealed. One man whose story was published in a suburban paper has now gone on to join a Red Cross disaster team.
 
Posted by Evensong (# 14696) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Banner Lady:
quote:
Originally posted by orfeo:
quote:
Originally posted by Banner Lady:
He was the one who chose from the menu. I have witnesses!!!

Absolutely! He rushed into danger before any of us had a chance to stop him!
And here they are.

Great pic. I love seeing shippies faces. [Smile]


Hope the gale didn't cause too much damage Latchkey!
 
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on :
 
We're in for a wild and stormy night here in Sydee. All cricket called off tomorrow, in advance, which is rare.

Middle is studying the film Stand By Me later this term, and we watched it with good friends tonight. Great film, and River Phoenix astonishingly good.

mr curly
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
I watched it this week for the first time in years - it really is excellent with some fabulous one liners.
 
Posted by Patdys (# 9397) on :
 
Thankyou for the meet photo. It is lovely to put faces to voodoo dolls [Big Grin] .
And a fine looking lot you all are as well.
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
Today was lovely. A friend and I went to a Festival of flowers held in the Botanic Gardens. My favourite display used designs in porta-loos, which were very well done and also topical for Christchurch. One was "Low cost Housing for Christchurch - with a window showing a table and a kitchen painted on the back wall. A small storey on the top showed a cat sitting at the window. Another was labelled CERA* Throne Room was painted in shiny royal blue and the door was locked.

*Canterbury Earthquake Recovery Authority - who have enormous land acquiring powers and are not very popular.

There were also wee glasshouses made to look like cottages. They displayed styles of flower arrangements through the years.

A local muso sang as kids cartwheeled in front of him and some couples waltzed. It was magical and one of the best times I have had since Sept 2010.

Then my friend took me back to his place for tea and delivered me home.

I even managed to forget for a while that I have a scary biopsy tomorrow.

Huia
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
A bit irreverent, I suppose, but here Cera is a make of sanitary ware - so here people piss on Cera rather than the other way around!
 
Posted by Vulpior (# 12744) on :
 
[Votive] Huia for the scary stuff.
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
Praying for you and your doctors today, Huia.
 
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on :
 
With you, Huia.

Blessings

[Votive]

GG
 
Posted by Latchkey Kid (# 12444) on :
 
Belated Birthday greetings for Banner Lady on the 23rd.

This announcement came from FD, but I was away this w/e on a retreat for the start of my further studies in Spiritual Care and didn't get to check my messages until now.

We were lucky with the storm, some furniture got wet (dried now) and the neighbour's 40m lemon scented gum tree did not fall. Just a couple of trees to sort out and some pruning to make sure the power lines do not get brought down in another storm.

Got to my retreat only 20 minutes late


[Votive] Huia [Votive]
 
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on :
 
Well, I was on a prison ministry course all weekend and so the birthday is on hold indefinitely. I didn't mind missing one at all, really.

[Razz]
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
Thanks for the prayers and support.

I survived - only to have the doctor tell me the sample taken may not be sufficient, if which case the next will be taken at the hospital and I will be knocked out first.

Wodders I loved your take on CERA - it cheered me (and several other people) greatly.

LK, I've never heard of a lemon scented gum tree, though the scent of gums is one of my earliest memories. There is an old stand of them across the road from the school where I volunteer and when I wait at the bus stop they provide welcome shade as well. The road is one of the oldest in Christchurch as it's one the early settlers used over the hills from the port.

Huia
 
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on :
 
Perf. 19 March to 26th. Coming over for Mr Curly Senior's 80th birthday. Meet?

mr curly
 
Posted by jugular (# 4174) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mr Curly:
Perf. 19 March to 26th. Coming over for Mr Curly Senior's 80th birthday. Meet?

mr curly

Yep.
 
Posted by rexory (# 4708) on :
 
Yep, too!
 
Posted by Dark Knight (# 9415) on :
 
Make it so.
 
Posted by LeRoc (# 3216) on :
 
Sorry for chipping in from the other side of the globe (and from yesterday, relative to where you are), but I'm reading a lot in Dutch newspapers about the visit of the politician Wilders to Oz. Are you hearing a lot about that? I'm quite impressed with how the Australian interviewers debate him. Mostly, the Dutch media just slavishly repeat his views.
 
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on :
 
Personally I have seen a little but not that much coverage of him and very little said about his actual views, there has been coverage of protests against his presence here but I think maybe there's been an element of restraint shown by the media (I live in hopes) by not giving him too much publicity.
 
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on :
 
Re: Perf meet. How does Wed (20st) or Fri (22nd) lunch at a city location suit? Open to other suggestions. What's AP up to these days.

mr curly
 
Posted by rexory (# 4708) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mr Curly:
Re: Perf meet. How does Wed (20st) or Fri (22nd) lunch at a city location suit? Open to other suggestions. What's AP up to these days.

mr curly

At this stage, my diary is somewhere in an online backup somewhere, while I await a replacement laptop from my insurance company - the laptop was stolen from our place last week, and the insurance company is swamped (pun intended) with cloaims from the floods in the East. But I am fairly sure either date is fine.
 
Posted by Evensong (# 14696) on :
 
Wed I'm at formation all day but I could do an early lunch Friday (have a tutorial at one thirty in Fremantle) or just swing by and say hullo. [Smile]
 
Posted by Dark Knight (# 9415) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mr Curly:
Re: Perf meet. How does Wed (20st) or Fri (22nd) lunch at a city location suit? Open to other suggestions. What's AP up to these days.

mr curly

Probably needs its own thread.
I can't do Wednesdays.
 
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on :
 
Originally posted by Dark Knight:
quote:
Probably needs its own thread.
I can't do Wednesdays.

Done

mr curly
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
Biopsy was OK, but the whole process will have to be repeated in 3 months as the symptoms are persisting.

Bugger.

I know I'm not being rational about this, but it seems like a form of medical torture.

Huia
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
In a way, Huia, that's not such bad news. It does mean that if something is wrong, it will be picked up early in the piece. Early treatment is much better than late. Prayers continuing.
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
Thamks Gee D - I'm a bit more rational today so that makes sense.
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
Not pleasant ... prayers and thoughts continue. Medical uncertainty is always so unsettling.
 
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on :
 
Front page of the Goulburn Post today reads BISHOP COMES HOME. The bish of Canberra/Goulburn wants to spend half his week in each city and has bought a house near the cathedral in Goulburn. He is the first pointy hatted one in 65 years to have a residence there. As he has landed right next to the Exclusive Brethren, I imagine there might be some interesting conversations across the side fence!
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
BL, there were people in the brethren group I was once in who would not enter a church at all, even for a wedding or funeral. They might be contaminated and I was always suspect even after many years because I came from Anglican background. This group was not exclusives, on the way but were orthodox in doctrine.

Have been at son's place in Central Coast this week. He's settling in to weekend access visits and living by himself. Also adjusting to premier's sweep through of his department and is one of the last to hear if his job is safe. Looks OK but nothing official yet.

Back on his medication after many years and adjusting to that too.
 
Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Lothlorien:


Have been at son's place in Central Coast this week. He's settling in to weekend access visits and living by himself. Also adjusting to premier's sweep through of his department and is one of the last to hear if his job is safe. Looks OK but nothing official yet.

Back on his medication after many years and adjusting to that too.

What wonderful news!
 
Posted by James the Confident (# 9678) on :
 
That's great Loth.

[Votive] for those I have missed.

For anyone in Melbourne on the third (tomorrow) there is a Gymanfa Ganu at St. Michael's UCA in Collins Street where my choir, the Australian Welsh Male Choir will be singing along with the Victorian Welsh Male Choir, the Melbourne Welsh Male choir and the Geelong Ladies Welsh Choir. It is usually a great occasion.

So I don't get into trouble: "What is a Gymanfa Ganu? Its literal translation is a gathering or assembly for the purpose of singing. For any Welsh person it means hymn singing - in Welsh and in four part harmony."

[ 01. March 2013, 22:02: Message edited by: James the Confident ]
 
Posted by James the Confident (# 9678) on :
 
Drat! It is at 3PM. [Hot and Hormonal]
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
Emli, are you still booked in for Wednesday? Prayers and best wishes.
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
Deep sorrows at our school these past 24 hours. I'll be with our senior staff at Borroloola today taking the body of a 13 year old boy home to his community. [Tear]

Nasty brown stuff is hitting the media fans.

[Votive]
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
[Votive] [Votive]
 
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on :
 
How terribly, terribly sad [Tear] [Votive]
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
Zappa, that's just tragic. Prayers for the young boy, his family, friends and the college.
 
Posted by rexory (# 4708) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Gee D:
Zappa, that's just tragic. Prayers for the young boy, his family, friends and the college.

[Votive]
 
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Gee D:
Zappa, that's just tragic. Prayers for the young boy, his family, friends and the college.

From my heart too – and for your part in dealing with the situation.

[Votive]

GG
 
Posted by Arleigh (# 5332) on :
 
[Votive]
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
Bother ... just sent you all a newsy update but closed the page by accident. I'm back from 24 hours in the young fella's community, down near the Queensland Border in the Gulf Country. It's been an important 24 hours and thanks to your prayers and many others I think much has gone well. I'll have to make a few more visits in the coming weeks.

Amazing scenery flying back on the mail plain, at 800 m above the Gulf wetlands around the Roper River region. and Sir Edmund Pellew Islands region If I'd only had a camera, but everything happened at such short notice.

There'll be a lot more sorry business yet, for school and community.

Thanks so much for your prayers.
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
(The community is about 120 kms south of Borroloola)
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
And prayers for you, also, Zappa in having to carry out your various tasks here.

A few years ago, the parents of a Preppie - he would have been 10 or 11 - were going through a very nasty divorce. The boy's body was found, in his bedroom, electrocuted. No-one knows what really happened, but it's hard to think that someone that age could have formed an intention. The Chaplain said that it was the hardest funeral he had ever had to take.
 
Posted by Evensong (# 14696) on :
 
Crazy, crazy world.

[Votive] [Votive] for you Zappa.


A question for you clever people:

I've been shafted by the accountant dealing with my mother's Self Managed Super Fund ( I look after my mother's finances).

I want to lodge a complaint about him but from what I can gather, the accounting industry in Australia is self regulated and there are three industry bodies that take complaints.

The problem is this accountant is not registered with any of them so I cannot go to them to lodge a complaint.

Anyone have any other ideas? I can't seem to find an accounting ombudsman, only a financial one.

TIA
 
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on :
 
This body deals with complaints about Super, it would be worth looking at the page about their jurisdiction to see if they can deal with the issue. Of course, caution is required because in the SMSF context, you/your mother/whoever is Trustee might be "responsible" for what the accountant has done.

mr curly
 
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on :
 
My Lord, but the Big House does look good with $5,000 worth of floristry in it and $4,000 worth of new textile work. I have had a lot of fun as the displays have gone in, ready for the big bash next week when the old girl turns 150. The floristry and lighting students from local institutes have done amazing things, and the teachers were very happy to get the opportunity to dress up a heritage building. I'd say that's a win/win all round! [Smile]

Now we just need some proper photographers to take some good pics. You can follow the adventures of Goulburn Cathedral on fb if you're interested.
 
Posted by Nunc Dimittis (# 848) on :
 
Hello people. My first post this year to this thread! (Gosh, where has the year gone?)

I've been... distracted by... various things... involving stuff.

But I digress. It's good to be back.
 
Posted by Evensong (# 14696) on :
 
Welcome back Nunc. [Smile]
 
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on :
 
Canberra Day has been and gone. I made the mistake on Friday night of trying to drive through the city on my way home from Goulburn - I usually go round it, but there are a lot of roadworks atm. The place was jam packed with people flocking to the lake for all the celebrations. Last night's fireworks spectacular also meant gridlock and half hour queues for comestibles.

TP & I ignored it all, in favour of a quiet night in, though we could have walked there if we had wanted. Must be getting old! The BBC nominated Canberra on its "most boring capital cities in the world" list. We are doing all we can to keep it there. [Razz]
 
Posted by Vulpior (# 12744) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Banner Lady:
Canberra Day has been and gone. I made the mistake on Friday night of trying to drive through the city on my way home from Goulburn - I usually go round it, but there are a lot of roadworks atm. The place was jam packed with people flocking to the lake for all the celebrations. Last night's fireworks spectacular also meant gridlock and half hour queues for comestibles.

TP & I ignored it all, in favour of a quiet night in, though we could have walked there if we had wanted. Must be getting old! The BBC nominated Canberra on its "most boring capital cities in the world" list. We are doing all we can to keep it there. [Razz]

We drove in. We arrived just before 3pm and left when the fireworks were over. We loved it. Choral performances, food (including my first choc-sprinkle-flake soft serve ice cream), the new symphony and then the amazing fireworks. With a slow walk around the lake to experience people, art and quirky happenings.

We parked in Barton and had no problem getting in or out. There was still quite a bit of traffic heading back (from the coast, presumably) on the highway so I guess others stayed well away.

There was no way Mum or I wanted to miss it.
 
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on :
 
Glad you had fun, Vulpior, and that you were able to get out ok. I guess it depended on which direction you were going. The ice cream sounds very brave. What did your Mum think of the symphony?
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
I'm going to meet my Grand-Zac (my only and new grandchild) this weekend [Yipee]
 
Posted by Emendator Liturgia (# 17245) on :
 
Hi one and all,

Glad to be able to report some good news. I could have done it earlier on but with all that was happening to our friend Zappa and his school, I thought I'd wait a bit.

My operation was suddenly brought forward - not for any bad reason: simply, my surgeon suddenly felt that I was a suitable candidate for robotic surgery. THANK HEAVENS FOR THAT,
 
Posted by Emendator Liturgia (# 17245) on :
 
Deo Gratias!

Hi one and all,

Glad to be able to report some good news. I could have done it earlier on but with all that was happening to our friend Zappa and his school, I thought I'd wait a bit. Our prayers are still with everyone up there, Zappa!

My operation was suddenly brought forward - not for any bad reason: simply, my surgeon suddenly felt that I was a suitable candidate for robotic surgery. THANK HEAVENS FOR THAT, is all I can say now.

I ended up being operated on on Wednesday 13th February, after having the offer made on the preceeding Friday afternoon. Between PAC and getting the next two weeks of liturgy done (including two Ash Wednesday services), just say the time flew bye.

The operation went for about 4.5 hrs, or so I have been told. With keyhole robotics I had five small incisions rather than a 'levi zipper', and I can honestly say that right from the start I had no post-operative pain. I was in hospital until the following Sunday morning. Since coming home the recovery has been constant.

I'm now seeing both a specialist physio on a weekly basis, and a nutritionist every 2 weeks. I am now walking for 25 -30 minutes twice a day, as well as the physio exercises designed to increase pelvic floor muscle control. The BIG hassle with prostate conditions is the loss of bladder control - some say it takes about 4-6 months for things to get under control.

Recovery rate is fantastic with the robotic - I missed only two Sunday services and feel (mentally and physically) ready for the demands of Passiontide and Holy Week. Besides too, the lifting restrictions (nothing heavier than a full kettle) will be phased out by then.

All in all, thiangs are gowing great. THANK YOU so much for all your prayers and support - knowing that people are praying for you is certainly a large contributing factor to recovery.

Deo gratias!
 
Posted by rexory (# 4708) on :
 
Excellent news, EL! Take care.
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
Great news, EL.

[Yipee]
 
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on :
 
Great news, EL.

I can also report in with a good visit to the cardiologist yesterday. Ultrasound of the heart before and after vigorous exercise showed that it was functioning normally. That means the stented arteries are delivering blood to the heart under load as well as at rest, as they should. Back in 6 months.

Fortnightly visit with the psych today, much improvement with anxiety and concentration.

Likewise, thanks for your prayers.

mr curly
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
That is very good news from you both, Emli and Mr Curly. Prayers continuing from us.
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
[Yipee] EL & Mr C [Yipee]
 
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on :
 
Yay!

I think I'll be worn out by all the celebrating before Easter at this rate. Today's projects: sewing 4 nun's habits, sourcing boater and top hats, and finding stick on sideburns, apron and gaiters.

Tomorrow is Parade day. Hope the rain holds off until the afternoon...
 
Posted by Barnabas Aus (# 15869) on :
 
Good news for all. Hope the recovery continues apace.

I have just undergone successful cataract surgery which means that I am looking at the screen for the first time without glasses in about 18 years.

Enjoy your time with your grandchild Zappa. My grandson is nine months old today, living in Katherine where my son is posted. We'll be up that way in June for his first birthday. My daughter is expecting our second in mid-September - could be a 60th birthday present for my wife.
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
Oooh ... just down the road ... we could have a meet [Biased]
 
Posted by Patdys (# 9397) on :
 
Delighted to hear all the good health and recovery news. And Zappa, at 300 km, there would be longer driveways up your way, wouldn't there?
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
Just about. At any rate it's my neigjbouring parish.
 
Posted by orfeo (# 13878) on :
 
Canberra in March is simply heavenly.

This needs saying out loud occasionally.
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
Enjoy it Orfeo.

Well Marmite is back on NZ supermarket shelves [Yipee] Some shops are limiting sales while production increases. Personally I hate the stuff, but I know of several families where there will be rejoicing. I celebrated by putting several jars in the Methodist City Mission collection point at the supermarket.

The news that excited me today was that another block of the city is being freed up next month - the cordon is shrinking [Yipee] [Yipee] [Yipee]

Huia
 
Posted by Evensong (# 14696) on :
 
Interesting day in OZ politics.

Started a thread in purg.
 
Posted by jugular (# 4174) on :
 
Shipmates in Sydney and Newcastle - I can now provide you with links for the two Pirate Church shows. YAY!

Sunday 14 April in Newcastle (Hamilton Uniting Church, 7.30pm) - you can see the Facebook event here, and the ticket booking site here.

Monday 15 April in Sydney (Paddington Uniting Church, 8.30pm) - you can see the Facebook event here, and the ticket booking site here.

If youse could all come and bring dozens of your mates, that would be grand!
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
Flying out to Robinson River, about 1000 kms away, to complete the sorry business for our young lad today. Unfortunately in the interim the CEO of the community, with whom I stayed a fortnight or so ago, has also suddenly died. Please pray for the community and all involved.
 
Posted by McChicken (# 2555) on :
 
Huia said
quote:
Well Marmite is back on NZ supermarket shelves
What is the big fuss about Marmite not being available? I got back from overseas and there was national wailing and gnashing of teeth about it all. Now I couldn't care less about Marmite (or Vegemite for that matter), so I haven't even bothered to look it up, but I thought I'd finally ask someone. Are we running out of road tar in this hot weather or something?
 
Posted by rexory (# 4708) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Zappa:
Flying out to Robinson River, about 1000 kms away, to complete the sorry business for our young lad today. Unfortunately in the interim the CEO of the community, with whom I stayed a fortnight or so ago, has also suddenly died. Please pray for the community and all involved.

[Votive] [Votive]
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
Zappa, prayers from us on your sad mission.

This morning's Herald has the death notice for Lady Loane, widow of Sir Marcus, at the grand old age of 99. May she rest in peace and rise in glory. Prayers as well for those who mourn her.
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
Zappa [Votive]

quote:
Originally posted by McChicken:
Huia said
quote:
Well Marmite is back on NZ supermarket shelves
What is the big fuss about Marmite not being available? I got back from overseas and there was national wailing and gnashing of teeth about it all.
The Feb 2011 quake took out the Sanatarium factory in Christchurch, the only place marmite was made in NZ. It wouldn't have worried me if they stayed closed, except that every time we get something back that was lost it feels like progress.

I knew marmite was popular with a lot of kids, but some adults too went absolutely crazy about its absence, paying inflated prices on Trade Me for half eaten jars. PT Barnum once said, "No one ever went broke underestimating public taste," which sums up the situation quite accurately.

Huia
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
Huh!

[Roll Eyes]

I am a great Marmite lover and in UK you can now get Marmite XO [Extra Old] which is even better! Marmite is an entire food group on its own - I have even converted Himself and Herself and even a Heathen North American [Canadian] to liking it.
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
NZ marmite apparently tastes different to that made in GB.

I'm more of a Vegemite eater myself (it's a similar product made in Australia). Well done on converting our Canadian friend. My brother - also a Vegemite eater lives in the US and when he was flatting it was never 'borrowed' by his flatmates however desperate they were.

Huia
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
NZ/OZ Marmite, which I find too sweet and leathery for my taste, is utterly different to either Vegemite or UK Marmite - which differ greatly from one another. Apart from anything else UK marmite is very liquid, like Bovril.
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
Thanks for the prayers. All went well but I'm buggered after ten hours flying over the two days. Home now, though I may have to drive back down there soon.
 
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on :
 
Leaving Perf today and returning to the family. It's been good to be out of town in lead up to Easter so not feeling the impact of not doing the Passion as much as might have done.

Then a 4 day family get away to the country.

mr curly
 
Posted by James the Confident (# 9678) on :
 
I will be in Canberra for the day on Easter Sunday (hint, hint). [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on :
 
Given that I am seriously crap at organizing anything and will probably be interstate on Sunday - I'll leave this one to the more musical shippies of Canberra. At least the weather's wonderful here!
 
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on :
 
Huia, we saw a chap called Gough on Campbell Live talking about his plans for the centre of Christchurch. I remember something about passageways (?), max height 6 storeys, a view of the Avon from first-floor restaurants/bars etc.

I wondered about open spaces with trees in the city centre. One of the things I love about my Wellington is the tree-shaded streets where there were cars and trams in my youth.

What's your take on this Gough?

GG
 
Posted by ozowen (# 8935) on :
 
Gedday folks, thought I'd drop in to wish all and sundry a Blessed Easter.
But while I'm doing that- what's with the marmite discussion? The stuff is three sorts of vile and should only be served to enemies, arch enemies and politicians.
 
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ozowen:
Gedday folks, thought I'd drop in to wish all and sundry a Blessed Easter.
But while I'm doing that- what's with the marmite discussion? The stuff is three sorts of vile and should only be served to enemies, arch enemies and politicians.

Thanks Ozo, great to see you!

Off for the weekend to our regular little shack in the country. No interwebs there, so see you on Tuesday!

mr curly
 
Posted by Rowen (# 1194) on :
 
My Good Friday service went well.
There were 15... A crowd for me.
We simply had readers going thru the gospel, with pauses and one music between readings.
At the end, we blew out the candle, sang some of "were you there" and left.
Anyway, at the beginning, after I explained all this, in the silence, the Anglican Church bell rang out, surprising us all. I worried it would disturb us all, but it was great actually, as it rang 33 times, and we sat there, and listened.
A moving way to start Good Friday church.
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
GG I didn't see him on Campbell Live - but I've heard him once before. He's a developer and the time I heard him he was ranting about some owning only a small piece of land and trying to call the shots, whereas those who had more were being hld to ransome... I wasn't terribly impressed. but I wasn't really listening. There will be trees though as the area along the Avon (of which he owns a chunk) from the Antigua St Boatsheds through to the Town Hall is to become a park, which may even extend in a city to sea pathway.

Next Saturday we have yet another consultation in our area aboutchanges being made by the Council. I admit to being a little cynical about being listened to, but will go and say my bit (emphasising the need for cycleways as two cyclists have been killed in the past couple of days).

Huia Too many commas in wrong places [Hot and Hormonal]

[ 28. March 2013, 23:40: Message edited by: Huia ]
 
Posted by Vulpior (# 12744) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by James the Confident:
I will be in Canberra for the day on Easter Sunday (hint, hint). [Big Grin]

I would be willing to greet you at All Trains, but I will be in Sydney. The other religion.
 
Posted by Evensong (# 14696) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ozowen:
Gedday folks, thought I'd drop in to wish all and sundry a Blessed Easter.
But while I'm doing that- what's with the marmite discussion? The stuff is three sorts of vile and should only be served to enemies, arch enemies and politicians.

Hi Ozo. Nice to see you again. [Smile]

I've moved back to my local parish and am involved as liturgical deacon there now. It's wonderful to be back. [Yipee]

Good Friday service was packed.

Perhaps the Apocalypse is nigh?
 
Posted by Patdys (# 9397) on :
 
Looking at his last 3 posts, I wouldn't discount the idea...
Floods, earthquakes and now 'Hello antipodes...'

Welcome back.
 
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ozowen:
Gedday folks, thought I'd drop in to wish all and sundry a Blessed Easter.
But while I'm doing that- what's with the marmite discussion? The stuff is three sorts of vile and should only be served to enemies, arch enemies and politicians.

I heartily agree about Marmite, Vegemite on the other hand is nectar of the gods. I am one of those sad people who take it overseas with me as I miss my Vegemite toast if I don't have it for a few days.
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
Did anyone else in Sydney catch the skywriter today with his "cross equals love" message? High above us as we came out from the 9.30 liturgy.
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
OMG GG - I've just seen the plans Gough has for rhe piece of riverbank by the Bridge of Remembrance. He says he has taken some ideas from Melbourne, which may be so - I've never been there, but the sketch in the paper looked out of place and ugly IMNSHO.

However, to be fair, I am not very good with change and in many ways am still mourning what has been lost. If I visited a place for the first time that was like Gough's plan I would be more open to the design.

Huia
 
Posted by Rowen (# 1194) on :
 
30 at church today, in the middle of nowhere, Victoria. Quite a crowd for us.
Good service.
Quite cold.
Happy atmosphere.
Lovely morning tea.
A day of celebration.
Enjoy Easter, folk!
 
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on :
 
"Twas the fullest I've ever seen St Doc's this morning. Many visitors, a nice celebration with all the trimmings. Hope everyone had a joyous Easter day.
 
Posted by Vulpior (# 12744) on :
 
I was in Sydney for footy, so had my first visit to the Railway Square Mission. Absolutely splendid, but I'm not sure something like that could be my weekly diet!

Happy Easter to all.
 
Posted by Emendator Liturgia (# 17245) on :
 
With 28 at our first service and 54 at the second, the ACoOL set a new record for attendance - a great spirit of worship and of being resurrection people!

Christ is risen! Alleluia!
He is risen indeed! Alleluia!
 
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on :
 
My Triduum was a bit different to the last two years (spent entirely at the big house). This year I had an Anglican/Salvationist/Charismatic Catholic experience across Easter. I thoroughly enjoyed it simply because it encompassed so much.

Hallelujiah. He is risen!
 
Posted by James the Confident (# 9678) on :
 
Toulouse Lautrec was really, really good. Sigh.
 
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on :
 
Yes, yes it was.
 
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on :
 
Having read on various threads about Easter activities, sacred and otherwise, in other countries I looked around the city and marvelled that in this increasingly secular of nations, on Good Friday everything stops. Sure, many people had gone off for the weekend holiday (Friday and Monday are both public holidays) but there was almost no traffic in the streets, hardly a soul on foot, all shops were shut – corner dairies and petrol stations are permitted to open as are cafes and restaurants; many garden shops open and pay the fines. But it was a city of the dead.
Do we have this all on our own?
I'm reminded of a 14-year-old's story, when I asked them many years ago to write to a pen-friend from Mars who was coming to visit for Christmas: "On Christmas Day some people get drunk and some people go to church". Sadly, there's something in that observation. And at Easter? I was staggered one Good Friday, also long ago to hear the neighbours' kids having an Easter Egg hunt on Good Friday. And their Dad came from a family of church going Methodists.

GG
 
Posted by Patdys (# 9397) on :
 
I wonder if that is cultural Christianity. I worked every day and was on call for the entirety of Easter. I do not feel this dishonoured Christ.

I am very low church, when I get there and the trappings of Christianity don't worry me much. I respect that for many, Lent is significant and the celebrations around Easter are sacred and point people to Christ, but for a lot of us, they are not as relevent to our faith.

At the end of the day, I think God probably likes all of us. Except liturgical dancers.
I do not mean to diminish your experience of faith in any way, but merely point out the different expressions.
 
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Patdys:
I wonder if that is cultural Christianity. I worked every day and was on call for the entirety of Easter. I do not feel this dishonoured Christ.

I am very low church, when I get there and the trappings of Christianity don't worry me much. I respect that for many, Lent is significant and the celebrations around Easter are sacred and point people to Christ, but for a lot of us, they are not as relevent to our faith.

At the end of the day, I think God probably likes all of us. Except liturgical dancers.
I do not mean to diminish your experience of faith in any way, but merely point out the different expressions.

Don't get me wrong – it doesn't worry me whether or not Good Friday is a working day (I normally attend a church service but didn't this year); I'm simply amazed that our secular society 'closes down' for a church commemoration, and I'm a bit curious about how other places observe the day, if at all.

Likewise, an Easter egg hunt on Good Friday doesn't offend me, but I marvel at my neighbour's ignorance given his family background.

Incidentally, in my youth there were 4 days when newspapers were not published: Christmas Day, New Year's Day, Good Friday and Anzac Day. I think two have gone, New Year's Day and Anzac Day. Anzac Day used to be totally 'closed down' but now the shops open after midday. What happens in Oz???

GG
 
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on :
 
Well, I was amazed and gratified that so much was shut here in the Nation's capital on both Good Friday and Easter Sunday - as for newspapers - what are they? [Disappointed]
 
Posted by Barnabas Aus (# 15869) on :
 
Zappa wrote on March 15
quote:
Oooh ... just down the road ... we could have a meet
Our NT trip is now uncertain as our son is shortlisted for a 3 month deployment to Butterworth in Malaysia. Birthday celebrations may be on hold. Will know more in the next week or so.

In the meantime, pray for the Diocese of Newcastle as we move to an election synod in nine days' time.
 
Posted by Emendator Liturgia (# 17245) on :
 
Originally posted by Barnabas Aus:

In the meantime, pray for the Diocese of Newcastle as we move to an election synod in nine days' time.

[Votive] for my old Diocese, Barnabas. BTW - who are the expected front-runners?
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
The holidays over Easter are weird. Good Friday everything closes, Saturday mad sales everywhere, Sunday everything closes again, except the library )because it's not (they say) a public holiday. Monday the shops open but the library closes (because it is a public holiday). Tuesday caught out some parents because schools were closed. Usually the Tue after Easter is in the school hoidays anyway, but this year they start a couple of weeks later.

I love Easter Day at the Library. I stop in on the way home from church and it's almost empty because people don't expect it to be open. Then I go home and plant daffodils [Yipee]

Huia
 
Posted by Patdys (# 9397) on :
 
Ta GG. Now I get it.
 
Posted by The Mid (# 1559) on :
 
G'day all [Big Grin]

I've just put up a meet thread titled Sydney Meet at Pirate Church in Paddington - Monday 15 Apr.

Would be great to see as many of you as can make it, and it is the perfect event to bring your friends to - it be comedy, it be religion, and it be pirates!
 
Posted by Barnabas Aus (# 15869) on :
 
EmLi, the list of candidates for Newcastle can be found here.

I can't comment on frontrunners, as with five candidates, it will take some time for trends to emerge.
 
Posted by Cryptic (# 16917) on :
 
It has been a while since I've posted, I've had been madly busy with work and all the usual stuff of late, although I do have a quick log-on and read if I have a mo. So much happening to shipmates and prayers for all. The sudden death of my father in law a few weeks ago has thrown the lives of the Cryptic family into a spin. It has been a difficult few weeks trying to make arrangements, console the family (and try to deal with the "interesting" personalities in the family) and just get on with things. It's a tough time for my MIL.

Easter was in the middle of all this, but the joy of Easter is unstoppable. Our Sunday school kids had a great day of celebration, talking about the resurrection and hunting Easter eggs as usual. I'm also very pleased that we were able to have a service for our children on Good Friday, as far as I can find out it is the first time this has been done at our ch
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
[Votive] Cryptic and family & inlaws [Votive]
 
Posted by Vulpior (# 12744) on :
 
[Votive] Cryptic.
 
Posted by Nunc Dimittis (# 848) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Barnabas Aus:
EmLi, the list of candidates for Newcastle can be found here.

I can't comment on frontrunners, as with five candidates, it will take some time for trends to emerge.

Wouldn't it be awesome if +Kay got it? How fabulous to have a female diocesan!

We had a beautiful celebration on SAturday for the consecration of +Alison Taylor for our southern region.
 
Posted by rexory (# 4708) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nunc Dimittis:
quote:
Originally posted by Barnabas Aus:
EmLi, the list of candidates for Newcastle can be found here.


They may not be in a hurry to get another assistant bishop from Perth [Big Grin]


We had a beautiful celebration on SAturday for the consecration of +Alison Taylor for our southern region.



[ 12. April 2013, 14:33: Message edited by: rexory ]
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
Waiting on news from Newcastle ...
 
Posted by Vulpior (# 12744) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Zappa:
Waiting on news from Newcastle ...

One of my FB friends posted at 10am that she was returning to the conclave, I mean Synod. Nothing further yet.
 
Posted by Barnabas Aus (# 15869) on :
 
Newcastle has failed to elect. +Stephen had a majority but was unable to achieve two-thirds, so it's back again in about 90 days.
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
How I wish that were the rule in EnZed, where 50% is enough, and Nice Ideas™ get elected on a whim
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
I see LATA posting on another thread, but I'll bet that few get the irony in her post. Hope that all is going much better for her lately.
 
Posted by Left at the Altar (# 5077) on :
 
Well hello, Shippies.
Hoping you are all well. Sorry to hear of your loss, Cryptic.

Things going well for us (Thanks GeeD for asking). Kids OK (cross fingers that our year of horror is over after two car write offs, two strokes, two broken jaws and two ambulance rides!).

Going on holiday to the USA soon and looking forward to it very much. I've been to paradise, but I've never been to NY.

Hope the shows are going well, Jugs. Comedy is a tough gig.

ETA: three ambulance rides. I forgot one.

[ 15. April 2013, 11:18: Message edited by: Left at the Altar ]
 
Posted by Patdys (# 9397) on :
 
Just as long as you haven't seen some things
That a woman ain't s'posed to see.

Enjoy the trip Lata and make us envious with stories on your return. And avoid ambulances, ok.
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
...and make sure you have lots of medical insurance in The Land of the Free!
 
Posted by Left at the Altar (# 5077) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Gee D:
I see LATA posting on another thread, but I'll bet that few get the irony in her post.

One point to you. [Biased]
 
Posted by Sober Preacher's Kid (# 12699) on :
 
Dearest Cousins:

I was in Montreal on the weekend for the New Democratic Party of Canada's Federal Policy Convention. Dear me, what a fine Party (and party!).

Of note to you Down Under, Bill Shorten MP wandered in and we put him on stage as a Guest Speaker. I guess he took a wrong turn at Melbourne Airport and wound up in Montreal.

He was the best Speaker of the Conference. He got the House jumping and fired up, and this is a Party that is already fired up. He was the best speaker of the weekend, by far, and everyone enjoyed him immensely. Many commented that we like Australian speakers more than Americans because you share our political culture and speak the same political language. Americans just aren't on the same wavelength.

One good turn deserves another so we put some stamps on his forehead and sent him back by air-mail. Would someone please pick him up at the airport?

Ever thine,

Canada's NDP.
 
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on :
 
So the NZ parliament has now passed the Marriage (Definition of Marriage) Amendment Bill, the 'Gay Marriage Bill', by 77 votes to 44.

Belonging to the Presbyterian network who supported the Bill, while our General Assembly was about 75% against GLBT eligibility in leadership, I was most impressed while watching the debate by the respect shown by all the speakers – none of the interjection, name-calling etc in most debates.

I was also impressed by the honesty of some of the conservative characters who had been persuaded in the course of the three readings to support the bill (thought some had gone the other way).

The final result was followed by a rousing waiata (a maori song) from the gallery, and a great deal of embracing among the members. More aroha than is usually seen in the Chamber.

I think I'm on a bit of a high.

GG

(I did preview it, and made a careless alteration)

[ 17. April 2013, 11:21: Message edited by: Galloping Granny ]
 
Posted by Rowen (# 1194) on :
 
I do like New Zealand.
Stepping out with courage.
 
Posted by The Mid (# 1559) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Sober Preacher's Kid:
I was in Montreal on the weekend for the New Democratic Party of Canada's Federal Policy Convention ... Bill Shorten MP wandered in and we put him on stage as a Guest Speaker ... He was the best speaker of the weekend, by far, and everyone enjoyed him immensely.

By all means, please keep him there!!
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Galloping Granny:
Belonging to the Presbyterian network who supported the Bill

You don't know how how strange that sounds in OZ!
 
Posted by Patdys (# 9397) on :
 
Yeah, but a lot of our Presbyterians became Uniting church and we are moving forward, albeit glacially and with great pain.
 
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Patdys:
Yeah, but a lot of our Presbyterians became Uniting church and we are moving forward, albeit glacially and with great pain.

If a Uniting church like yours was formed here, a lot would happily join in. Presbyterian Affirm (who joined a list of 'church leaders' opposing the Bill) would remain aloof. Our own Moderator of Assembly signed because Assembly had this majority against gays in leadership, but when gently reminded that this was hurtful to the gay membership he withdrew his signature and apologised.
Presbyterians that I know who visit Oz avoid Presbyterian churches like the plague but are at home with the Uniting Church. OTOH a Presbyterian minister from Oz who came to Rev Mary's church (in a town much frequented by tourists & holiday visitors) seemed somewhat uncomfortable before a woman minister but was civil and remarked on a favourite hymn in what was probably a pretty Progressive milieu.

GG
 
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on :
 
Soo sad to hear news of the destruction of Holy Trinity Church hall at Dulwich Hill, Sydney. The hall was used as a youth centre and had had a lot of success in getting troubled youth back on track through the discipline of boxing, the rector fighting Father Dave seems like a great bloke and it's just really sad that something positive has been destroyed in what is assumed is an arson attack.
 
Posted by Rowen (# 1194) on :
 
We had two Presbyterians at our UCA church this morning. They were visiting us from NSW,, and really enjoyed having a woman minister.
They increased our numbers to 17.... At least 10 folk were away today, or maybe, at 5c. it was just too cold to get out of bed.
Anyway, two lovely women, good singing voices.... Great visitors.
They chose us because there is no Prezzie Church around for kilometres. I guess we were the next best thing.
I am rumoured to preach a leftie, liberal kinda message, but they felt at home...

Today's big issue was the formation of a Breakfast Club across the road from us, at the little school. The new chaplain is very enthusiastic about this. I outlined various ways our church could be involved, including giving money, which I would pass on to the chaplain. Now I assume our church will formally give a donation, but I was thrilled with the response of two elderly ladies- one of our visitors and one of my lot, who just have gifts on the spot. Lovely..

We then had morning tea, and finally got to race home to our heaters and fireplaces.

[ 21. April 2013, 07:52: Message edited by: Rowen ]
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
You know GG (and others may have said this!) when I see your sig line I always feel tempted to cite G.Thom logion 114 ...
 
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Zappa:
You know GG (and others may have said this!) when I see your sig line I always feel tempted to cite G.Thom logion 114 ...

Touché!

So how exactly do we interpret that?

GG
 
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on :
 
Dear kind host – my first post of 21 April vanished when I dropped off line, was replaced and then popped up after all. Please would you delete the second version?

GG
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
It's done - I thought you were getting a bit repetitive!

WW
AS Host
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Galloping Granny:

So how exactly do we interpret that?

GG

[Paranoid] carefully [Paranoid]
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
Just back from a couple of weeks in Wellington. I didn't contact anyone because I was very involved with family. My Dad died. I'm still feeling a bit numb.

I am happy to be back home, but got back too late to get Georgie out of the cattery.

Huia
 
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on :
 
Sorry to hear that Huia [Votive]
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
Huia, our prayers for you and your family, and most importantly for your father. May he rest in peace and rise in glory to be with our risen Lord.
 
Posted by Athrawes (# 9594) on :
 
Yes, Huia. And take care of yourself, too. [Votive]
 
Posted by Patdys (# 9397) on :
 
Prayers Huia.
 
Posted by Clarence (# 9491) on :
 
Huia

I'm so sorry

[Votive]

Much love from FD and me
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
[Votive] Huia [Votive]
 
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on :
 
Huia [Votive]

With love

GG
 
Posted by Emendator Liturgia (# 17245) on :
 
Huia, prayers for you, your family, and for your father. [Votive]
 
Posted by Left at the Altar (# 5077) on :
 
So sorry to hear this, Huia. I know you and your Dad were very close.
Take care of yourself. xx
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
[Votive] Huia
 
Posted by Barnabas Aus (# 15869) on :
 
Prayers for you and your family, Huia. Having lost both parents I can understand what you are experiencing in terms of numbness. It took me quite some weeks to really grieve for my Dad. It all came out during the culmination of a parish mission, where I burst into floods of tears in front of the whole congregation, but the love and care of those around me was wonderful. Look after yourself, especially after all the other stressors which have been in your own life.
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
Lest we forget
 
Posted by ozowen (# 8935) on :
 
Gallipoli - Memorial at Anzac Cove by Ataturk.
"Those heroes that shed their blood and lost their lives…
You are now living in the soil of a friendly country. Therefore rest in peace. There is no difference between the Johnnies and the Mehmets to us where they lie side by side here in this country of ours…
You, the mothers, who sent their sons from faraway countries wipe away your tears; your sons are now lying in our bosom and are in peace, after having lost their lives on this land they have become our sons as well."
Ataturk, 1934
 
Posted by Sioni Sais (# 5713) on :
 
[Votive] Huia & family

[Votive] The ANZACs; Britain's best allies for a very long time. Many thanks.
 
Posted by McChicken (# 2555) on :
 
I actually wrote this quite a few years ago, but when I was previously on SOF I used to share a poem every Anzac Day, so I thought I'd do so again (if you don't mind).

Behind The Lines (1914-1918)

On the lines
where blood and water meet
Miles of trenches
and miles of wire
No-Man’s Land
is Dead Man’s Land
Young men face death
Young men grow old
On the lines
where young men die

Behind the lines
where life-blood flows
Doctors never sleep
and the dead never wake
Each man’s bed
is a dead man’s bed
Pretence of hope
Shortage of life
Behind the lines
where young men die

Behind the lines
where blood is thicker than water
Columns of names
ranks of the dead
Any man’s name
is a dead man’s name
Fathers, brothers, sons –
Names in the paper
Between the lines
are young men mourned

Behind the lines
where wine and champagne flow
Counters are moved
and dice are thrown
Dead men’s faces
are strangers’ faces
Old men decide
Young men’s fates
Behind the lines
are young men killed
 
Posted by Latchkey Kid (# 12444) on :
 
[Votive] Huia [Votive]
 
Posted by Rowen (# 1194) on :
 
Huia... in my prayers.

##################

Thankyou for the poem above.
No services to lead this Anzac Day, being but my first in this town. Kinda strange. No doing. Just being an ordinary person, but I appreciated the chance to be so.
 
Posted by rexory (# 4708) on :
 
So sorry, Huia, just noticed this. My deepest sympathies.
 
Posted by ozowen (# 8935) on :
 
[Votive]
Huia.
I know this one, sadly. My father died not twelve months ago.
Leaves a hole in your life and an ache in the heart.
 
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on :
 
Huia [Votive]

My dad is gone too. It is hard.
Spent some of ANZAC Day with my 95yr old Mum.
It would have been her 67th wedding anniversary today.

Life is full of road bumps. Sigh.
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
Thanks for the prayers. I've woken up a bit less numb today, with plans to plant the daffodil bulbs I didn't manage at Easter. There's something about a death that calls for an affirmation of life.

Huia
 
Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on :
 
Dear Huia - I am so very sorry,

Prayers for your Dad and you [Votive]

God bless.
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
Thanks Pete.

I rang my youngest brother on whom most of the sorting out and legal stuff has landed and he sounds overwhelmed as he is also starting a new job with more paperwork than he expected. Oldest bro is doing his best, and is a good worker, but not a good organiser so I'm going back up to boss everyone around (a-hem help with organisation)

I don't really want to go, but I don't see any other option. I will have to return on Sunday - which, being the last day of the school holidays will not be fun - If I'm lucky the world might end before then [Roll Eyes]

Huia
 
Posted by Jengie Jon (# 273) on :
 
Huia

Take care.

Jengie
 
Posted by Vulpior (# 12744) on :
 
[Votive] Huia.

We have just finished our first trip to NZ. We didn't have the time to fit in a meet, but we did get to see some of Wellington, Rotorua and Auckland. We'll be back.
 
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on :
 
At the big house 50-60 extra bodies made a LOT of noise yesterday - the Australia & New Zealand Association of Bellringers kept the bells peeling all day, with 24 bodies in the belltower at any given time. I knew about ANZAC, but ANZAB was a new one! Anyway, it seems there was hearty ringing, hearty eating and hearty fellowship.

I wonder what bellringers can talk about for two days at a conference? The mind boggles. [Eek!]
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
Vulpior, I'm not biassed or anything [Roll Eyes] but you missed the most beautiful part of New Zealand, so of course you'll have to come back.

The good news is that I can shift the day I'm returning, so I'm coming back on the Monday. which shouldn't be as busy. [Yipee]

Huia
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Banner Lady:
...I wonder what bellringers can talk about for two days at a conference? The mind boggles. [Eek!]

I bet they go like the clappers!
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Welease Woderwick:
quote:
Originally posted by Banner Lady:
...I wonder what bellringers can talk about for two days at a conference? The mind boggles. [Eek!]

I bet they go like the clappers!
Wodders that is the kind of pun my Dad enjoyed. As his grandson said when we were interring the ashes, "If Grandad was made redundant he could always get a job writing jokes to go in Christmas crackers".

This is probably not a good time to ask as I will be off internet for the next week or so, but has anyone heard from Lothlorien lately?

I have been given a couple of days off next week so I no longer have to travel on the last day of the holidays [Yipee]

Huia
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
Huia , we had coffee with her brother after the local Anzac Day service. Now, we don't normally make her a subject of conversation, but I'm sure that if there were something seriously wrong, he would have mentioned it.
 
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on :
 
I've been wondering about Lothlorien too, haven't seen her around at all, sent her a PM but it remains unopened. I hope she's away with her Grandkids or something, it's been school hols here, she might have been doing Grandmotherly duties and too busy for the ship.
 
Posted by the giant cheeseburger (# 10942) on :
 
Happy Star Wars Day people!


(how on earth did this thread get so close to falling off the first page?)
 
Posted by Evensong (# 14696) on :
 
And also with you.
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
We saw Lothlorien's brother and nephew at the BG the other evening. He said that she had been looking after a sick granddaughter for the last day or so, but that otherwise he knew of nothing.
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
Thanks Gee D.

Am back home again and don't want to go back to Wellington for a loooong time. If there is anything in reincarnation I am coming back as an orphan whose siblings are all celibate [brick wall] .

Huia
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
Someone, somewhere once wrote about how we all have a biological family and then we have a logical family - and although the terms are not necessarily mutually exclusive in theory, they are often are in practice.

I cope well with my biological family at about eight and half thousand kilometres distance - that is about the perfect separation.
 
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on :
 
One has just been asked to take over artistic direction of the Easter presentation that takes place in the centre of Sydney each year.

"Yes!"

mr curly
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
Congratulations!

One must be very pleased.

[Biased]
 
Posted by jugular (# 4174) on :
 
Oh Mr Curly, you will need to import a wonderful actor to play King Herod! Someone from the west! Someone like me!
 
Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on :
 
Surely Easter means that 1st century aviator, not Herod?

You know, Pontius, The Pilot
 
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on :
 
I think, Jugs, you would do "mad" very well. I can just hear your voice booming up and down Martin Place, although I was expecting you to suggest a touch of the Ghosty Parrot for somewhere in the presentation.

But not sure anywhere in UC has budget for imported talent at the mo.

mr curly
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mr Curly:
But not sure anywhere in UC has budget for imported talent at the mo.

mr curly

Pity, at the moment I could do one of the weeping women very well.

Huia of the incontinent eyes [Waterworks]

ETA - Congrats Mr C --good choice on ther part

[ 07. May 2013, 07:26: Message edited by: Huia ]
 
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on :
 
[Yipee] Mr C, very exciting.
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
Well done, Mr C. I'm trying to think how you could give the whole event a cricketing theme, perhaps with Jugular as 12th man (sorry about that, just to bring the drinks).

Prayers for you Huia - I remember how we felt when my father and Madame's died. The grieving does not come to some miraculous halt at the funeral, and never really ends.
 
Posted by James the Confident (# 9678) on :
 
Oh Huia, I'm so sorry. [Votive]

[Votive] For other losses too.

I've not been on line for what seems like a long time. I am now permanent at Health by the bay and am settling in well. The job is developing with some exciting things to come.

I am now the proud new lessor of a brand new Citroen C4 diesel--or should that be lessee [Confused]

The Welsh choir is going very well and we are off to Wales again in 2015.

Life is good.

P.S., I still don't and never will follow the cats [Big Grin]
 
Posted by ozowen (# 8935) on :
 
@ PeteC and Mr Curly- I believe the 1st Century Aviator actually sang 'January"
 
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ozowen:
@ PeteC and Mr Curly- I believe the 1st Century Aviator actually sang 'January"

[Yipee]
Sick and tired, you've been hanging on me

mr curly
 
Posted by Clarence (# 9491) on :
 
[Votive] Huia

JtC good to see you and hear your news. FD and I were wondering recently about how you are getting on [Yipee]
 
Posted by rexory (# 4708) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by James the Confident:

P.S., I still don't and never will follow the cats [Big Grin]

When in Rome, .... Can't understand why you don't get with the strength, James!
 
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on :
 
[Votive] Huia. Would have been my dad's birthday today. No, you don't forget.

I too have a gig for Jugs. Please marry my eldest daughter. She needs a man in her life that can make her laugh. *sigh*

Life is busy and a bit difficult at present. Although I now have a personal chef. TP has been making some very palatable curry dishes, and I am fanning this new talent wholeheartedly.

[Razz]
 
Posted by LeRoc (# 3216) on :
 
I'm sorry, did anyone see the partial solar eclipse this morning (ring of fire)? It must have been something.
 
Posted by rexory (# 4708) on :
 
So, now it's official. my parish is to go half-time 1st July,and I can't live on half a pay. prayers, please for something to fill the gap, or - preferably - another full-time gig. This is dragging me down emotionally a great deal. B*gger the black dog [Frown]
 
Posted by James the Confident (# 9678) on :
 
[Votive] Rexory
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
How can you have a half rector? Mrs Edwards, a stalwart of the church for 60 years or more, become seriously ill on a day when you're not there. Who undertakes the pastoral care that you would want to provide to her in what may be her last hours? She can't very well be told that she simply has to wait until next Thursday.

Any chance for you of a chaplaincy position at a school or hospital?
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
[Votive] rexory - I share your pain.

The problem with juggling a parish and a chaplaincy, as I am doing, is an interconnected two-fold: disconnection between the two worlds and resultant burn-out. I am feeling it badly now.

I am keeping you in my meager prayers, Rexory.
 
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on :
 
[Votive] Rexory and Zappa

Our (Presbyterian) minister when I'm at Matarangi is on a 75% stipend. Apart from pastoral care, this means preaching 3 weeks in 4: 6 lay preachers have dwindled to 4, of which one's gone sailing for a year and I've been stuck in the city. But all sorts of national and Presbytery responsibilities land on her plate – she's off to do a required course his week which she used to run, before she was a parish minister, but now she has to attend the same session.

May the Spirit be with her and with you both.

GG
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
Prayers for you Zappa, and also for you and your parish GG.

Zappa, we prayed for Bishop Greg and your diocese this morning. The diocese is our Mission of the Month, and we are hopeful of a good offering. The pastoral care committee is also supporting one of the parishes in the diocese in aspects of its work.
 
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Gee D:
Prayers for you Zappa, and also for you and your parish GG.

We divide our year between Matarangi and Wellington. Our parish in Wellington is one of many throughout the country who have been told to evacuate their buildings because they are not sufficiently earthquake proof. So while we bring the old wooden church up to 100% safety (the 1957 brick one will be expensive either to strengthen or to demolish), we worship in the atrium at a nearby church school, run a couple of programmes in our neighbouring Anglican church hall, and the minister and secretary have been given the former offices at another Presbyterian church who had built a new suite.
So now we have to decide what we are called to do, and while the practicalities of buildings are a major financial issue, everything must start with Why are we a congregation? What is God wanting us to do, and how are we to go about it?
We're in pretty good heart considering, though the discernment process is a big job to tackle – we have also the situation where our minister has been called to move on, so we must find a new one in the midst of everything else.
A pilgrim people, indeed.
Please pray for us too.
And may the right doors open for Zappa and Rexory, and the support that they need be with them.
GG
 
Posted by Patdys (# 9397) on :
 
Prayers for you all.
Ministry is a bitch.
I am currently feeling disconnected from the church and that too is a result of my wife's ministry and the demands of my work.

I simply don't have the emotional energy to give at church as well as work and home. I keep coming back the the whole 'season' thing.
It's a time to withdraw after a time of activity.
And I'm OK with that. It will pass.
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
We shall, GG. What a predicament, and we had not really known the complications until your post. May your congregation emerge stronger at the end.

[ 12. May 2013, 11:08: Message edited by: Gee D ]
 
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on :
 
Yes, I too am in a crossover season. It is so easy to get cynical about what passes as "community" and "teamwork" in my denomination. But I have discovered one door is closing and two others are opening. In the uncomfortable dark hallway between them, there is some space and grace for recovery.

I suspect most of us need occasional healing time from being church. My prayers to all of you who are at unscheduled rest stops.
[Votive]
 
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on :
 
I feel a change coming on as well. As for the graceless liberal-pinko poppycock that got served up on Sunday . . .

Meanwhile, the writing project that was supposed to be finished last October but was derailed by my health issues is finally complete. It's a set of 6 novellas (about 12k words each) in a series - think of it as a 6 episode TV series. The compendium is out today, and then there's weekly release of the episodes individually from today as well.

This is a bit of landmark as far as moving on goes. This project has been hanging over me as a symbol of what I couldn't do after the heart attack - for months I couldn't sit at the computer to write with a clear head. So, now it's done, and I'm on to new things, including daily cricket writing for 3 months starting in June.

mr curly
 
Posted by rexory (# 4708) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Zappa:
[Votive] rexory - I share your pain.

The problem with juggling a parish and a chaplaincy, as I am doing, is an interconnected two-fold: disconnection between the two worlds and resultant burn-out. I am feeling it badly now.

I am keeping you in my meager prayers, Rexory.

Yes, I'm not really wanting to try and "serve two masters". Got a knock-back today from a parish for which I was interviewed. Not sure I really wanted it, anyway. But I've only got till 30 June as full-time here. I will not panic
 
Posted by Emendator Liturgia (# 17245) on :
 
Medical Update: I saw my specialist yesterday, after having a PSA test done on Monday. The results - zero cancer cells detected. Will have another PSA done in 6 months just to be sure - and after that yearly ones through my GP (which is how they discovered the bastard in the first place).

Life takes on a whole brighter and affirming perspective today! [Smile] Kinda matches the lovely bright sky outside atm.
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
EL [Yipee]
 
Posted by Patdys (# 9397) on :
 
And continuing the medical theme, Evangeline, the Hba1c requirement for driving has been overturned.
 
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Patdys:
And continuing the medical theme, Evangeline, the Hba1c requirement for driving has been overturned.

I knew they'd listen to me eventually [Smile]

I knew of some softening of the wording, I'll have to have a closer look. Thanks Patdys
 
Posted by Patdys (# 9397) on :
 
Unfortunately, softening of the wording is as good an apology as you are likely to see.

I have just managed to get an entry into the Port Macquarie Ironman in May 2014. Because I had lots of spare time...

Right now, 9 hours later, I am in the what have I done phase? The cost of entry however will sharpen my mind wonderfully towards training however.
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
Well done dmli, and thanks for the update.
 
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on :
 
How was everyone's Pentecost? Nice red day at St Docs, the Sunday schoolers made flame headbands and flames on sticks, all decorated with glitter (early primary decorating doesn't get better than glitter [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Rowen (# 1194) on :
 
My Pentecost was different this year.

As a minister in the UCA Frontier Services division, I do some worship deputation work every year. Accordingly I visited two little churches yesterday, to speak on the ministry of FS. We had decided that they would do the Pentecost thing, and I would concentrate on how the Rev John Flynn, the man on the $20 note, started FS, School of the Air, and the RFDS, was inspired by God... It was a lovely morning. I was welcomed, and it was great to see how other UCA churches do Pentecost.

Back home, lay folks led my church....

Then in the afternoon, my church hosted the first ever Grand High Tea. We have a congegation of about 30. 90 folk turned up. We made $800. We provided fab food. We borrowed fancy china and silver ware. The senior school music students provided entertainment. Something utterly unknown out here in the middle of nowhere. Great success!
A memorable Pentecost!
 
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on :
 
Sounds really good Rowen. As somebody educated by the Pressies/turned Uniting I know and admire John Flynn.

The Grand Tea sounds like a fab idea. It must have been the day for it 'cos I went to a champagne afternoon tea at QVB Tearooms after church, a fundraising one would have made me feel better about eating scones and cream though [Smile]
 
Posted by Rowen (# 1194) on :
 
Those of us on team.... Yumminess continued, as we all got to take a plate of leftovers home.
Oh, and John's ministry places included a church in my parish, and we are all rather proud of that!

[ 20. May 2013, 02:20: Message edited by: Rowen ]
 
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on :
 
My weekend had a High Tea as well - at a Prison Ministry reunion with a Mother's Day flavour, because Mother's Day is quite difficult for some of us. We were encouraged to wear something Mumsy - so you need to imagine BL in a possum fur opera cape (think Wallis Simpson) - a Not Very Useful garment I have inherited from my mother.

But it was fabulous fun, with lace tablecloths and pretty china and a scrumptious spread that would have cost $50 per head at the Hyatt or Adore Tea. One of my girls tells me that at such places one can sample tea flavoured jams and mayonnaises - and all I could think was...Why?

Pentecost, interestingly, was spent in a nursing home, where I was nabbed to be the reader at a Catholic Service.

I gets around. [Razz]
 
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on :
 
And i church on Mothers' Day, having been asked to 'say a few words', I talked of how nearly 30 years after Mum's death I still find myself responding to something with 'This will interest Mum' or 'I must share this with Mum'. And all over the church women were smiling and nodding in a shared experience.
Please smile and nod if you've been there too!
Does this happen to sons as well as daughters?

GG
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
For me, to some extent GG , but not in the sort of present tense you use - more in the past. For example, we recently saw John Bell's magnificent production of Henry IV, with him as Falstaff. We spoke a lot afterwards about how my mother would have enjoyed it and the particular features that would have appealed to her - and it's a dozen years since she died. Or recently, the demolition of a nearby house and the construction of a tasteless monstrosity in its place. I can't speak for other sons, though.
 
Posted by Dee. (# 5681) on :
 
Hello everyone, just dropping in to see how you are all doing!
 
Posted by Patdys (# 9397) on :
 
waves.
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
Hello Dee, good to see you. Hope all is going well for you.

GG - I woke up one morning about a year after my mother had died thinking, "I haven't talked to Mum for ages - I must ring her." Fortunately I remembered before I picked up the phone. I also thought about ringing Dad about the breakdown of the passenger unit in Wellington recently, but as he's only been dead about 6 weeks that's a bit more understandable.

Huia
 
Posted by Dee. (# 5681) on :
 
Hi GG,

It happens to granddaughters too. I occasionally do something or see something and think my Nana would have loved this. Had high tea at the Langham with mum for her birthday and noted how Nana would have loved it.
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
For years after my dad dies - a week after my 15th birthday - woke up from dreams in which he was interacting with me happily. Bugger, I would realize, as I transitioned to awakeness.

Hello Dee ;-)
 
Posted by Dee. (# 5681) on :
 
Hi Zappa

I occasionally dream of my Nana and wake with the same sentiment...there are some people you never stop missing.

D
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
Strewth there were some dumb typos in my last post [Disappointed]

Maybe I should try going back to school ...
 
Posted by rexory (# 4708) on :
 
I hope my face book friends who are also on Ship will forgive most posting this here as well as there:
Today has been a very good day to be a priest!
Besides telling my people about the sudden death of a much-loved elderly lady parishioner and that the parish (and I) are about to go half-time!
I got to do 2 Eucharists, baptise three infants (including one little bloke who has two mums) in separate services, have lunch with friends at a nearby restaurant, and chat with a couple about their prospective marriage. Home at 4.30 pm, having left at 6.45 am.
I'm tired, but I love my job :-)
Will someone please remind me about this next time you hear me whinge?
 
Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on :
 
I think parent dreaming or wishing is a fairly common thing. My Dad died 45 years ago, and I still dream and think of him.

Rexory, good news on FB and still good news here, my friend.
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
Rexory, how is the half-time parish actually going to work when now you're doing over 40 hours?

Today I am 60, which seems so weird - I don't feel that old. I made myself a yummy birthday cake (Alison Holst's Diabetic Christmas cake recipe) and took it to church yesterday to share at the after function bunfight, where it received rave reviews. I still have half left so will distribute it quickly as, unlike other fruit cakes it does not keep well. The Catholic bloke from the church over the road who comes to our drop-in group will definitely be included as I've had heaps of his banana cake - some of which didn't even have bananas in it [Big Grin] .

Tonight I'm having a ginger-flavoured bubble bath.

Huia
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
Happy birthday!!!!! (sorry, but I can't change the grumpy face)

[ 27. May 2013, 07:06: Message edited by: Gee D ]
 
Posted by Vulpior (# 12744) on :
 
Indeed, happy birthday Huia!
 
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on :
 
Woot! HB Huia!

Chez Curly is in a state of chaos this week with my 50th party here on Sat night. 100+ guests, and friends playing live music.

Off to buy the liquid refreshments tomorrow. Yikes!

mr curly
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
Whoa ... Huia happies:

I would say "hari rā huritau" but as that is in a foreign language, and despite its meaning "happy birthday", it might be frowned upon [Biased]
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by rexory:

I'm tired, but I love my job :-)

I used to, but I'm struggling at the moment. On the other hand, at the moment I still have one, and you have soon only half a one, so I should shut the **** up.

[ 27. May 2013, 10:03: Message edited by: Zappa ]
 
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on :
 
Birthday bubblies to you youngies – Huia 60 wow!! Mr C 50 golly gosh!! May you both have many blessings in store in the next decade.

GG
 
Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on :
 
Many, many happies, dear Huia! Someday, if you're good, you may be as old as I.

Not that either of us is a patch on GG!
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
Thanks everyone.

Mr Curly, I don't think I could cope with that many. I'm definitely an introvert.

I forgot to say it's also Adam Pater's bithday as I remember we are ship twins (though some years apart as far as I know).

I am now going to toddle off to bed as the overnight temperature is forecast to drop to 0 degrees celcius here tonight. One happy result of the quakes - and losing my chimneys, is that I now have a heat pump so the house won't be too cold when I wake up. [Yipee]

Huia
 
Posted by AdamPater (# 4431) on :
 
Bother... too late, I am.

Happies, Huia. [Yipee]
 
Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on :
 
And to you, Adan Pater. Was thinking of my lovely visit back there in the mists of time.
 
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on :
 
Feeling very glad that (1) having returned from Matarangi on Saturday we put the warm sheets and winter duvet on the bed (2) we can batten down the hatches and stay inside all day and (3) as soon as the sun returns I can go out and photograph the first flowers on the winter-blooming kowhai that will continue to have flowers until the others start in September.

GG
 
Posted by rexory (# 4708) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Huia:
Rexory, how is the half-time parish actually going to work when now you're doing over 40 hours?

Huia

One of life's great mysteries - they will have to be three Tardis days, methinks! I think I rename myself "Father Who"!

Many happies, too, you young thing [Smile]
 
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on :
 
Belated birthday greetings to Huia, Adam Patar and Mr Curly, many happy returns [Yipee]
 
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on :
 
Thanks! The Festival of Mr Curly begins on Saturday, and runs for 16 days!

mr curly
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
Wow Mr Curly, you really know how to celebrate.
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
I was just a wee tad grumpy with my head of maintenance this morning when he told me I hadn't booked the chapel for a chapel service. I don't think he expected such a rich vocabulary display in response.

[Mad] [Mad]
 
Posted by rexory (# 4708) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Zappa:
I was just a wee tad grumpy with my head of maintenance this morning when he told me I hadn't booked the chapel for a chapel service. I don't think he expected such a rich vocabulary display in response.

[Mad] [Mad]

Why on earth would a chaplain want a chapel for a chapel service. You are so unreasonable, Zappa! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
Sorry!
 
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on :
 
The marquee has been raised, but in bad news, my bestie from Perth spent three hours waiting to depart Bogan City for Party City before the flight was cancelled. [Waterworks]

Leaves a big hole in the band!

mr curly
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Zappa:
I was just a wee tad grumpy with my head of maintenance this morning when he told me I hadn't booked the chapel for a chapel service. I don't think he expected such a rich vocabulary display in response.

[Mad] [Mad]

Goodness, fancy discovering that ordained people are human too [Eek!]

He needs to get out more.
 
Posted by Evensong (# 14696) on :
 
OMG. A frickin hilarious video about Hitler finding out about Rick Smith running for Archbish of Sydney.

[Killing me]
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Huia:
quote:
Originally posted by Zappa:
I was just a wee tad grumpy with my head of maintenance this morning when he told me I hadn't booked the chapel for a chapel service. I don't think he expected such a rich vocabulary display in response.

[Mad] [Mad]

Goodness, fancy discovering that ordained people are human too [Eek!]

He needs to get out more.

A bad day got worse after that - my principal hung me out to dry, as he has hung all my predecessors out to dry, over an unfortunate incident that he decided to amplify (and save his arse). It will make it much easier to tender my resignation, sooner rather than later, but I cannot play that card just yet.

To top it off I got a speeding ticket that day, too. [brick wall]
 
Posted by Macrina (# 8807) on :
 
I just thought I'd pop a note on here to say I'm joining you all. From the UK to NZ for at least a year. Gosh so excited and terrified.
 
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on :
 
Oooh how exciting Macrina. What are you going to do in Enzed?
 
Posted by Macrina (# 8807) on :
 
Nursing. It's a bit of a massive change for me from living basically in Birmingham to a little town of about 40,000 people where I know no one. But I feel that it's one of those things I've wanted to do basically since I first landed in NZ over 4 years ago so...I'm doing it.
 
Posted by Evensong (# 14696) on :
 
Cool. [Cool] . Go you!
 
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on :
 
You'll get a welcome if you come our way.
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
Hey Macrina, if you're anywhere near Christchurch send a PM. most of us natives are friendly.

Huia
 
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on :
 
Good on you Macrina. As they say you NEVER regret the things you do, only the things you don't do. I'm sure that you will have culture shock moving to a small town but it wouldn't be worth doing if you were going somewhere that was too much like home. I've always found New Zealand a really lovely place, with friendly natives [Smile] Don't forget to cross the ditch and come visit us ozzies sometime.
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Macrina:
I just thought I'd pop a note on here to say I'm joining you all. From the UK to NZ for at least a year. Gosh so excited and terrified.

Good move to Godzone ... I miss it
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Macrina:
Nursing. It's a bit of a massive change for me from living basically in Birmingham to a little town of about 40,000 people where I know no one. But I feel that it's one of those things I've wanted to do basically since I first landed in NZ over 4 years ago so...I'm doing it.

Enjoy yourself Macrina and prayers that your time in NZ is fruitful. Just remember that a town of that size either in NZ or her is not small; a town of 350 is.
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
Gee D having just re-read Macrina's post I was going to post exactly what you did. It's only in about the last 15-20 years that a settlement of 20,000 (or a Cathedral) was all that was needed for a population centre to become a city.

It's definitely winter now. We had such a warm autumn I wondered when it would happen, but last week we had a sleety blast, followed by a brilliant couple of days, and now the rain. Georgie-Porgy has fallen in love with the heat pump, but I am reserving judgement until I get the power bill [Eek!] .

Huia
 
Posted by Arabella Purity Winterbottom (# 3434) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Huia:
Today I am 60, which seems so weird - I don't feel that old.

Slightly late Happy Birthday from me.

I know what you mean about not feeling it - I turned 50 earlier in May, and I'm sorry, but it just isn't computing. My mum, at 79, tells me her head feels about 35 (she thinks her body is around 85) so I have a good example. 35 was a good year, I might stick there too.
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
Huia , that used be the rule of thumb here, along with a very vague requirement that the town be an independent centre. That made it hard for large suburbs - such as Parramatta and Liverpool in NSW. These days, it's pretty much population alone. I'd be very surprised if many mayors knew if there were a cathedral or not.
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
Yay - I have not become suddenly deafer - one of my hearing aids had a cracked tube which I discovered when it finally broke. Even better - it only cost $10 to replace.

It's such a relief [Yipee] .

Huia
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
Rescuing this from the second page to announce to Aussie snow bunnies that Coronet Peak in Queenstown is open and skiable.

(though why anyone would want to is beyond me [Roll Eyes] )
 
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Huia:
Rescuing this from the second page to announce to Aussie snow bunnies that Coronet Peak in Queenstown is open and skiable.

(though why anyone would want to is beyond me [Roll Eyes] )

I tried once. I kept falling over on the nursery slope and being picked up while my kids whizzed past saying 'Hi Mum!'
But you should see my 7-year old grandson in Canada flying down the slopes and sailing over all the jumps.

Huia, enjoy the heat pump. Ours is set at 18° and goes on for 2 hours every morning, and after that we put it on as required. On a sunny day the room warms up anyway. Did you read about the woman who just left it on 24/7 and got a gigantic electricity bill?

GG
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
I will be passing through the shaky isles for 48 hours this week - sadly too brief a visit to say hi to anyone this time
 
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on :
 
Well, well the St Paul of our time.

Socceroos coach has obviously been attending a Sydney Anglican church
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
Evangeline, have you seen Lothlorien lately? I don't like to keep asking her brother.
 
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on :
 
Sadly no GeeD. She's not been at St Docs of late (must be months), unless she's coincidently been there the few Sundays I haven't. I'm going to check up with Minister etc as she doesn't seem to be responding to PMs.
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
Thanks Evangeline, I've been concerned about her too,
 
Posted by Tree Bee (# 4033) on :
 
Lothlorien is still blogging here.
 
Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on :
 
Thanks TB. What a relief to know that she is still about. Taking a break from the ship, I expect.
 
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on :
 
Ditto
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
RE Loth - That's good to know,

I am feeling sorry for myself after tripping over an uneven footpath. I have a small lump on my head and have probably bruised ribs and strained wrist muscles. Fortunately it was in a fairly deserted area of town so I didn't have an audience. I watch kids in the playground bounce back really quickly after a fall, but it seems as you get older it takes a bit longer.

Huia
 
Posted by rexory (# 4708) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Huia:

I am feeling sorry for myself after tripping over an uneven footpath. I have a small lump on my head and have probably bruised ribs and strained wrist muscles. Fortunately it was in a fairly deserted area of town so I didn't have an audience. I watch kids in the playground bounce back really quickly after a fall, but it seems as you get older it takes a bit longer.

Huia

Sympathies, Huia. Just keep saying "I fell over", not "I had a fall". The latter is only for old people! [Smile]
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
Thank you Tree Bee. We thought we may have seen her at the Coronation Memorial Service at CCSL, but she was not there.

Plenty of rest for you Huia. Take your nurofens, sit with your feet up, a good cup of tea next to you and a book to fall asleep over. Best wishes.
 
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Huia:
RE Loth - That's good to know,

I am feeling sorry for myself after tripping over an uneven footpath. I have a small lump on my head and have probably bruised ribs and strained wrist muscles. Fortunately it was in a fairly deserted area of town so I didn't have an audience. I watch kids in the playground bounce back really quickly after a fall, but it seems as you get older it takes a bit longer.

Huia

Sympathy sent from my sore foot (doctor says plantar fasciitis) to your sore bits. It might take a bit longer but hey! we'll get there.

GG
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
And prayers for Rowen as her region of Victoria floods.
 
Posted by Rowen (# 1194) on :
 
Thank you.
It is kinda wet.
Well, very.
Totally actually.

We keep losing power too. Thank God for wood heaters.
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
Thank you all for your concerns. I looked in here yesterday. Life basically ran over me. I've not been well, am not actually depressed but certainly not on top of the world. Arthritis problems have flared badly and there have been a couple of days when it has been difficult to walk much more than 100 metres. Shoulder is bad and lifelong sinus problems have risen again.

A friend has dragged me out a couple of times to visit friends down south and has taken me to lunch a couple of times at local cafes.

Evangeline, I have spoken to Fr G. but probably not for about six weeks now.

Problems with family too. Son who was kicked out by partner is not too bad but there was also an added complication of work spill caused by our beloved premier. It took about two months for him to get his old job back and he is now permanent instead of contracting as he did for eight years.

However, we are watching his ex self destruct through bad choices and decisions. Not the person we all though we knew and she has become involved with a real scum bag to use my sister's term. Even her friends are worried about her.

Eldest son is not well. He really had to have back operation last year as he could not live as he was then. He has been meticulous about rehab, but the operation has not been the success we all hoped for. In addition, he and his wife seem to have put aside their discernment regarding a friend and they are planning on going to France in a few weeks on what I consider to be something weird. Have sold most of their six or seven properties and are giving away al sorts of things. I have no idea how he thinks he will travel as he cannot sit for more than abut ten minutes.

Middle son has been made redundant from his not-for-profit placement agency.

Just too much on my plate.
 
Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on :
 
Lothlorien, I am sorry for your aches and pains. I wish that your family could sort itself out. Many prayers from here to you. God bless. [Votive]
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
Lothlorien, not good news at all on many fronts. Prayers for you and your family.
 
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on :
 
Good to hear from you Loth, but sorry to hear about the slew of problems and dramas [Frown]

[Votive]
 
Posted by Barnabas Aus (# 15869) on :
 
Lothlorien, you have our prayers. My wife has had to go onto pain patches over the last couple of moths for similar arthritic pain. She was almost unable to function on some days, but is now approaching some normality. Please don't let the black dog get you. We've been there as well, and wouldn't wish it on anyone.
 
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on :
 
Loth [Votive] I've missed you.
 
Posted by Rowen (# 1194) on :
 
My prayers too.

If you were just watching the weather channel.... It was my town they kept mentioning re floods and rain.
Not very comforting!
But we survive!
 
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on :
 
[Votive] Loth and family.

Without any expectation of anything in particular, I just thought I'd share that I turned 50 today. Nice breakfast with family, church, footy, then performed, and watched Biggest perform, at a casual open mic acoustic afternoon at church.

mr curly
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
Congratulations, Mr C - Oh, to be 50 again.
 
Posted by Rowen (# 1194) on :
 
Happy birthday.
Still rainrainrainrain. Went for a drive this afternoon.... The sightseeing thing. It was quite interesting, seeing the floods.
My house, and need my side of town is safe, but damp.
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
Rowen and the people of your area [Votive]

Happy Birthday Mr Curly - may they all last as long [Biased]

Loth I'm glad to see you posting again - I have been thinking of you and wondering how you are. Having so much going on at once can be awfully draining - I hope you can do something good for yourself.

Huia
 
Posted by Barnabas Aus (# 15869) on :
 
Happy Birthday Mr Curly! We Geminis have lots to celebrate and share. It's a long time since I turned 50, but I shared in my grandson's first birthday party yesterday which was a joyful day.
 
Posted by comet (# 10353) on :
 
here's a challenge for us, perhaps you can help.

3 diamond doves are here. In Haines, Alaska.

I have no idea how they got here. However, they seem to think they're cold (it's breaking heat records for us!) and they're big old targets for the eagles. We need to live trap them.

So, my darling Aussies, and particularly of the bird nerd variety - what food can we coax them in with? I'm reading grass seed is their natural food, which at the moment the natural world here has in abundance. We need something really delicious to grab their attention. Ideas? What would make Christmas for a couple of really lost Australian diamond doves?
 
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on :
 
Where's Athrawes when you need her? No idea what kind of seed would most tempt a diamond dove. The crested pigeons around here seem to like the crushed acorns on our driveway, and the Chinese pistachio tree. Maybe some crushed nuts?
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
Comet, I would PM Athrawes, she may have an idea - although I think parrots are more her thing.

Getting colder here and snow is expected - I want enough for a day off school [Razz] (no snow ploughs here). Water is cascading down the Port Hills and I am wondering about the possibility of a slip as they are less stable since the quakes.

Huia
 
Posted by bib (# 13074) on :
 
Loth [Votive] heartfelt thoughts and prayers. Life is very hard at times, isn't it?
 
Posted by Barnabas Aus (# 15869) on :
 
Hi Comet,

Try here for some suggestions.

They may have escaped from someone's aviary.

Did the move to Haines go smoothly?
 
Posted by comet (# 10353) on :
 
thanks, everyone!

they might be escapees, but it's a small town here and I'm not hearing of anyone who has an aviary. birds are tricky here - even with central heat the power often goes out during winter storms so there's always a risk of it getting too cold for exotics.

move was essentially smooth, BA, thanks for asking! it's a long haul with a lot of stuff to get here, but hey - I'm here now! haven't landed a solid job yet, but that will come. heat is doing my head in. getting into the 30s C! (stop laughing! that's crazy for us!)

the doves are purported to have first been noted about the time you were in the 'hood, BA. did you leave anyone behind? [Biased]

[ 17. June 2013, 03:07: Message edited by: comet ]
 
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on :
 
Ok, just happened to be speaking with someone who is a serious contributor to a bird watching magazine. He says the only real way to tempt birds into a trap is with a bird call they recognize as their own species. This can be downloaded via an ap on your cellphone.
He is very interested in your story of Aussie birds in Alaska - reckons it might make a good article. I am pm-ing you with his contact details - he can text you the ap details too.
 
Posted by comet (# 10353) on :
 
thanks, Banner Lady. I'll put him in contact with my mom, she's an ornithologist here. (which is how I got in the middle of this) I'm sure she'd be happy to help his with his article. I'll pass along to her the info on calling. She was talking about doing that, anyway.
 
Posted by comet (# 10353) on :
 
(missed the edit window)

mom asked me to correct myself- she is not technically an ornithologist, she is a naturalist who specializes in birds and bears.
I was sloppy with my language.

(it's just so AWESOME living with my mom again and getting corrected and stuff! way to feel 12 again! whee! [Biased] )
 
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on :
 
Ah yes, my mum is 95 and still trying to organize me! (Pushing molasses up hill there).
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
Oh God. Mothers.
 
Posted by ozowen (# 8935) on :
 
[Votive] Loth
[Votive] Dampness in Rowenville
[Votive] for Zappa and mothers... er Zappa, was this something you were called or is the issue with another human being?
 
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on :
 
I suspect your Mum had her hands full with you, Zappa.

I simply try to stay out of my children's lives. This makes me a "cold and distant, uncaring type mother", as opposed to an "interfering old biddy." I'm sure there's a place somewhere in between that's right, but I haven't found it yet, and neither have they. [Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
[Killing me] Actually she sent me to boarding school aged eight, so I don't think I troubled her too much. Still don't. Except apparently I don't ring often enough. [Disappointed]
 
Posted by Rowen (# 1194) on :
 
Floods holding their own, or going down. Rain occasional now... As opposed to constant. Still cold of cours. and muddy.
Bad head cold though.
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
We were being threatened with snow tomorrow and Friday, but they've revised this to sleet for areas under 200 metres above sea level and the forecast overnight temperature low for Saturday has beem revised to -4 rather than -6.

It's quite amazing. I went to do my usual weekly shop and the supermarket shelves only has really expensive artisan bread left and I think I bought the last 2 litres of cheap milk. Thank goodness no one seemed to be overbuying cat food, so there was heaps of that for the fat'n'fluffy one.

I intend to wait out the bad weather with 6 litres of bacon hock and vege soup which I've just made in the crockpot.

Huia
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Zappa:
[Killing me] Actually she sent me to boarding school aged eight, so I don't think I troubled her too much. Still don't. Except apparently I don't ring often enough. [Disappointed]

Zappa nobody rings often enough.

[ 19. June 2013, 10:22: Message edited by: Huia ]
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
Love the sound of your soup Huia. I've just finished spicy sweet potato and fresh ginger soup. Was given the freshly dug ginger. Before that was celeriac and bacon with homemade bread. Fresh, cheap and nutritious.

I haven't been shopping for weeks and weeks. Have hardly walked at all as hip and shoulder were so bad. I have changed grocery suppliers and all seems well. Fruit and veg come from a small outfit I've used since moving here. I can order a set box or buy box for refundable deposit and choose my own filling. Good quality and fresh. Brought to my bench.

I prefer to choose my own meat but have been getting meat from a restaurant supplier which I have used for years. Not much dearer than supermarket, properly butchered without splinters of bones etc or scrappy chunks of chicken. Vacuum sealed and delivered to my kitchen bench.
 
Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on :
 
But Mothers can do that to their sons, whether they're 8 or 50-something. They know what buttons to push. Bless 'em.
 
Posted by ozowen (# 8935) on :
 
Am hugely annoyed at the Health system. Two seriously complex cases, both requiring immediate responses. One a serious risk to other people, the other profoundly mentally unwell with tissue, bone and ligament damage at a level that would render most of us thoroughly insane, were neglected and poorly attended to by a Health system that is, at best, unhealthy.
I suspect cloaca will become chaotically airborne when my letter hits the system.
 
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Zappa:
[Killing me] Actually she sent me to boarding school aged eight, so I don't think I troubled her too much. Still don't. Except apparently I don't ring often enough. [Disappointed]

Once every school holidays might be appropriate...
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
[Smile]
 
Posted by Arabella Purity Winterbottom (# 3434) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Huia:
We were being threatened with snow tomorrow and Friday, but they've revised this to sleet for areas under 200 metres above sea level and the forecast overnight temperature low for Saturday has beem revised to -4 rather than -6.

Howling wind (up to 170km so far) and rain here - our new garden shed has parted company with its bolts and is now in pieces by the back door and the wheelbarrow is teetering where I can't reach it about to fall over the path. I had a very scary drive to and from Wainuiomata tonight for work - motorway speed signs down to 50 because of the wind. All the way through our session the lights were flickering as though we were in a B-grade horror movie, and when I reached Lower Hutt, the power was out to about half the area.

I like the idea of your soup, Huia, sounds exactly right for hunkering down in the cold. Any other Kiwis enjoying the extreme weather?
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
The soup itself is wonderful but at some cost. I fell over a week ago and had grumbling pain in my ribs which I attributed to bruising. Yesterday I picked up the 6 litre crockpot full of soup and caused myself futher damage.

I know I am a total wuss about pain, but this was horrible and for a while all I could do was stand there clutching my side. I couldn't ring a friend because even speaking hurt. Fortunately I found a few paracodiene in the cupboard but am going to the doctor today because the three I have left won't get me through the weekend.

Meanwhile Georgie-Porgy, lunatic cat is out in the gale force sleet [Eek!] I know she has safe hidey-holes, but I wish she would come in.

Huia

[ 20. June 2013, 19:36: Message edited by: Huia ]
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Arabella Purity Winterbottom:
Any other Kiwis enjoying the extreme weather?

Extremely relieved not to be there!
 
Posted by Arabella Purity Winterbottom (# 3434) on :
 
I hope the doctor can help you Huia, sounds horrible.

My main concern about the storm has been alleviated - Rosie's very elderly parents have power. I hope the 30,000 households without it get it back soon.
 
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on :
 
Just catching up after wondering where everyone was: for a week my computer didn't tell me there was a page 13.

Loth, good to hear you're okay, even with all your problems. My sore foot pales into insignificance. May you see light at the end of the tunnel. [Votive]

Arabella and Huia – where we are it could have been a lot worse. Slept soundly and the only 'damage' we found outside was the rubbish and recycling bins blown over. Prayers with all you workers who have to go out in the storm, and hope it's already blowing itself out. Don't know if it's a 10-year storm or a 100-year storm but neither means anything these days.

Happy birthday Mr Curley. I won't say 'Oh to be 50 again' because even 80 is fun when you have all your faculties and not too many aches. On Tuesday I began my annual treat at High School with 8 eager gifted 12/13-year-olds starting 4 sessions on history and geography of language. Will I still be doing it when I'm 90???

GG
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
Thank you GG. Was moving more easily this week but everything has seized up again, possibly because of cold weather and I have barely been hobbling today. I have just seen forecast of cold and wild days for weekend but not as badly as NZ had it. Flood watch out for several rivers. So far only "watch" not "warning."

Am copying Huia's example and making soup, a winter staple in my place. Potato and leek this time. Fresh bread made this morning and easy to make more.

Did others see the animated gif on Google for winter solstice today? I wondered at first if it was for Julia Gillard who is a knitter but title says it's a solstice celebration.
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
I thought of you when I saw it Loth. Hats and collar and used frequently and ver welcome in this weather..

The verdict from the GP was cracked rib/s and possible retinal damage (which I though was light refracting through a scratch in my glasses lens [Roll Eyes] ). Retinal scan Monday. Meanwhile heavy duty painkillers, with kiwifruit for the side-effects.

Huia
 
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on :
 
From Lothlorien:

quote:
Am copying Huia's example and making soup, a winter staple in my place. Potato and leek this time. Fresh bread made this morning and easy to make more.
Yum. My potato & leek starts with sauteed potatoes in butter, goes on with leeks and white wine, milk, finally sour cream. A reaction to the tinned stuff.

GG
 
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on :
 
Yes, definitely soup weather. We had home made minestrone last night. It will be pumpkin, sweet potato and leek tonight.

Yesterday morning I drove from Canberra to Goulburn. It was 2 degrees at 11am, and Lake George looked very Tolkienish, with long drifts of cloud around the base of the surrounding hills.

TP has taken to wearing a white cotton glove over his arthritic hand, with a black fingerless one over the top. He says it helps keep the pain at bay during the cold weather, but it does look rather like he has one skeleton hand. Not sure how the grandchildren will cope with it!
 
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on :
 
BL, when I was in Perth a few years ago I got some rubbing oil that was recommended by the Arthritis ?Foundation, and it has been very effective when my hands have been painful. Am I allowed to name stuff? Anyway it's called El**** and contains eucalyptus and tea tree oil.

GG
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
GG that leek and potato sounds positively decadent.

My retina is apparently OK, but I have posterior vitreous detachment. It seems that some similar symptoms can show up for serious problems and common, not so serious ones. This is one of the reasonably common and not-so-serious ones [Yipee] In time the floaty bits and the flashes of light should lessen.

The other good news is that they have started to dig foundations for rebuilding the supermarkst. As the land is swampy they have to dig deep. Mountains of small rocks are being buried to stabilise the ground. I was told completion date would probably be around Easter, and was tempted to say something about resurrection, but didn't know if that comment would upset my informant, so refrained.

Huia -sporadically diplomatic [Biased]
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
Well, that's both good and bad news about your eye. How are your aches and pains from your fall coming along?
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
Six months 'til Christmas
 
Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Zappa:
Six months 'til Christmas

Ssssssshhhhhhhh!!! Don't tell Wodders. He'll have the xx months to Christmas thread up and running again!
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
Oooooh! Thanks for the reminder!
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Gee D:
Well, that's both good and bad news about your eye. How are your aches and pains from your fall coming along?

I think the cold is part of the problem. I received a PM from a Shipmate who has more common sense than I challenging my going to work in the school library when my ribs were so sore - so I took the day off today and will probably do so tomorrow.

I must admit it's a bit scary out there these mornings as the black ice makes walking hazardous, even though I always wear flat walking shoes (which I currently can'tbend to tie the laces). Tomorrow's temperature at 8am is forecast to be -4c.

Huia
 
Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on :
 
-4C is positively winter-balmy in these parts.
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
Huia, my mother-in-law, who has had a few falls (in the bad sense of that phrase) recommends old-fashioned epsom salts baths if you can get in and out. Her wisdom does not extend to -4 temps, except saying to keep indoors and well rugged up.

Top of the page may be a boost!
 
Posted by the giant cheeseburger (# 10942) on :
 
Looks like Origin won't be the biggest brawl on tonight.
 
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on :
 
Yawn, deja vu with Australian politics. I can't stand that jumped up pompous little pipsqueak who is challenging. He started off as a parody of John Howard, now he's just a parody of himself.
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by PeteC:
-4C is positively winter-balmy in these parts.

What can I say Pete - I'm a wuss. When we were studying Canada in Primary School - aged about 9 or 10 - I remember feeling very grateful that my ancestors came to NZ rather than Canada, my sole criterion being relative temperatures.

GeeD - I might risk the bath in a few days, At present I'm relying on showers because it would be so [Hot and Hormonal] to get stuck.

Huia
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Evangeline:
Yawn, deja vu with Australian politics. I can't stand that jumped up pompous little pipsqueak who is challenging. He started off as a parody of John Howard, now he's just a parody of himself.

It's been a fascinating time. As it happens I don't see things your way, and even went so far as to write to my local Labor member (Warren Snowdon) at the time of the last legitimate spill (not Crean's debacle) that he had rocks in his head if he supported Gillard (he did). But I have to admit that some of the anti-Gillard stuff has been nasty gender-based attacks (including a vicious meme posted on Facebook that my son-in-law has shared), and, while I am firmly in the Rudd camp, I believe Gillard has been a great sign of hope for women in politics.

I've always believed, though, that she should have been tapping Rudd on the shoulder about now rather than knifing him in the gut three years ago.

At any rate, let's hope Rudd gets a chance to lead the way on compassionate response to asylum seekers. He remains one of my favourite political leaders.

And because this is a thread amongst friends I won't engage in any further Rudd/Gillard tete a tete ... my hope is that somehow Abbott, against all odds, can be stopped.
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
From Zappa

And because this is a thread amongst friends I won't engage in any further Rudd/Gillard tete a tete ... my hope is that somehow Abbott, against all odds, can be stopped.

Yes, indeed, and this looks like the best chance there is. The Jesuits must wake up each morning worrying how they could have sent out a man like him.

And Huia, prayers for continuing recovery. Remember that nurofen is your friend.

[ 26. June 2013, 22:05: Message edited by: Gee D ]
 
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on :
 
TP emerged this morning to say he had had the worst nightmare of his life last night.

He dreamed Kevin Rudd was Prime Minister again. [Razz]
 
Posted by Evensong (# 14696) on :
 
[Yipee] [Yipee]

We got our PM back
 
Posted by Arabella Purity Winterbottom (# 3434) on :
 
We are in the dark, literally. Our power went off last Saturday morning and we still haven't got it back. We've been visiting the library a lot! ETA for return of light and heat is currently Sunday (was Wednesday, then Saturday).

The weird thing is that our neighbours have power, but our next but one neighbour lost his as well, and we're the only two houses still in the dark in our suburb.

However, we've been managing, with the help of the shower at the gym and the library. This weekend we're singing the Verdi Requiem with the NZSO, so that's another 10 or so hours in a warm place. Its given me a lot more sympathy for Christchurch (not that I didn't have it already, but just lots more now).
 
Posted by the giant cheeseburger (# 10942) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Zappa:
It's been a fascinating time.

Your local rag doesn't think so!

I don't think it's entirely a bad thing for the whole gender issue that Julia Gillard's time came to an ugly end. That she could be deposed in the same manner as she clawed her way up to the office (what was it another recent leader called it - the ladder of opportunity?) is an ironic expression of equal treatment.

I expect that the date of the election may get changed.

Did anybody else see the swearing in this morning? The PM's granddaughter is a cute one, it looked like the GG might consider using some reserve powers to keep her!
 
Posted by Emendator Liturgia (# 17245) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Zappa:
At any rate, let's hope Rudd gets a chance to lead the way on compassionate response to asylum seekers. He remains one of my favourite political leaders.

Whilst the mood in this household was one of jubilation - and the shared belief that JG was simply a bad leader, which fact had nothing at all to do with her gender, with regards to immigration and refugees I don't hold out much hope of a more humane policy shift.

If the interview last night on Lateline with our Foreign Minister is anything to go by (quoting things like most refugees nowadays are just financial refugees, and that those with soft hearts need to toughen up), then I think detention centres are likely to get even more crowded - and for longer!
 
Posted by Patdys (# 9397) on :
 
Woohoo, Melbourne. Drinks with a cousin tonight and then networking and conference. Fit in the odd run if I can. Gold Coast next weekend and cairns the weekend after. Then back to the grind. Conference, marathon and holidays. Collapse in a heap is in there somewhere.
 
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on :
 
I always thought Rudd a bad leader and insincere too. He was ousted by his colleagues for being so unpopular in polls etc and for instigating so many rushed schemes that he washed his hands of and put all the blame back on his Ministers when they went pear-shaped. That's not leadership.

As Zappa said though this is a thread amongst friends so I will cease and desist my vitriolic dislike of our new PM [Biased]

Is that NT news for real? Hilarious priorities, mind you being without a fridge in the NT is a pretty dire circumstance.
 
Posted by the giant cheeseburger (# 10942) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Evangeline:
I always thought Rudd a bad leader and insincere too. He was ousted by his colleagues for being so unpopular in polls etc and for instigating so many rushed schemes that he washed his hands of and put all the blame back on his Ministers when they went pear-shaped. That's not leadership.

As Zappa said though this is a thread amongst friends so I will cease and desist my vitriolic dislike of our new PM [Biased]

Is that NT news for real? Hilarious priorities, mind you being without a fridge in the NT is a pretty dire circumstance.

I'm not too keen on either Rudd or Gillard as the leaders of this country, or Abbott for that matter.

The way forward for Labor, in my opinion, is a heavy loss in the upcoming election (probably less heavy under Rudd than Gillard) followed by a cleaning out of the ranks over the next two terms in opposition. It could even take only one term if the incoming Abbott administration repeats the mistakes of the 2004-07 Howard term when they went way too extreme and comprehensively burned any credibility they had.

I'm 100% sure the NT News image is a joke, there are no stories on their website about the mayor's fridge and they have a reputation for a quirky sense of humour which makes them the only somewhat likeable Murdoch rag in the nation. Their Twitter feed also had these gems last night...
quote:
RECAP: KEV loves BILL, PENNY, GOOD PEOPLE, ZIPPING, hates JULIA, SWANNY, TONY. JULIA hates KEV, BILL, TONY, HOWARD, loves TIM. #spill
quote:
CANBERRA WEATHER FORECAST FOR THURSDAY: SMUG WARNING. CHANCE OF BLOOD. HUMILITY 0.2% #spill

 
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on :
 
With you there, cheesy. I really don't want to vote for any of them.
Worst thing about the political spill for most of us in Oz was that it bumped both the tennis at Wimbledon and the rugby State of Origin 2 off the tube.

Fair suck of the sav!
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Evangeline:
Is that NT news for real? Hilarious priorities, mind you being without a fridge in the NT is a pretty dire circumstance.

The NT News is beaten only by the Illawarra Mercury for sheer crass idiocy
 
Posted by Gwai (# 11076) on :
 
If you will forgive the intrusion of an American: a friend (also American) shared a poem with me. She recently was in Turkey, saw various sites at Gallipoli and was very struck. She is published internationally, so we have been debating about where she should to send it. However, she is perhaps sheltered, and doesn't have context, so when I offered to see if any Australians or Kiwis would give me an opinion, she said she'd be very interested. So any of you all would be willing, PM me!
 
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on :
 
I'd be more than happy to offer an Australian perspective (my Grandfather was a Digger but on Western Front not Gallipoli) on any context etc Tried to PM you but your inbox is full, maybe you've got a surfeit of takers.

Did your friend come across Ataturk's words? In 1934 Atatürk wrote a tribute to the ANZACs killed at Gallipoli

quote:

Those heroes that shed their blood and lost their lives... You are now lying in the soil of a friendly country. Therefore rest in peace. There is no difference between the Johnnies and the Mehmets to us where they lie side by side now here in this country of ours... you, the mothers, who sent their sons from faraway countries wipe away your tears; your sons are now lying in our bosom and are in peace. After having lost their lives on this land they have become our sons as well.


This inscription appears on the Kemal Atatürk Memorial, ANZAC Parade, Canberra.



 
Posted by Gwai (# 11076) on :
 
I had no idea that my box was full. Ack! Thanks! Will email.
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
Gwai The New Zealand Listener sometimes accept poems.

Yay for the nor'wester. The temperature reached 17c today, and possibly may tomorrow [Yipee]

In other great news - the Army is no longer occupying the centre city here* and most of the barricades are down, except when a large building is being demolished or for construction. I hope the good weather continues to Thursday because I want to walk around places I haven't been able to visit since Feb 2011.

* yes, I know their presence was necessary for safety and to prevent looters, but I hated it.

Huia
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
I've been on the road down to chez Draught since Sunday (3,300 kms, via a Town With A Bookshop, 55 hours on the road including four roadside sleeps and a visit to a shippie in aforementioned town) so now I'd better let you know what I've already splurged on Facebook ... we're off to NZ again, moving to a town for which I haven't yet thought up a moniker, to a position which I won't identify here.


[Ultra confused]

Got that?
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
Hope the aforementioned Shipmate is reading lots from the bookshop and that all is well chez Draught.

Interesting news. When does the move take place?
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
October. Hopefully it will be a little warmer then in the wobbly isles, and equally hopefully I may be a little bit over the beginnings of the demonic "build-up" in the Top End.

Kuruman can't wait! She has a great job in the Top, but the climate is not altogether to her taste.
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
quote:
Kuruman can't wait! She has a great job in the Top, but the climate is not altogether to her taste.
Each to his own taste I guess, but I think I side with Kuruman here. However, the rain and sudden arrival of winter have caused a flare of arthritis. Could hardly move for three days and am still hobbling.

The brother of a DIL and his girlfriend were working their way around Australia few years ago. They arrived in your area and now hate leaving it. They married, had a daughter, built a beautiful house. He's opened his own refrigeration business and goes fishing and also hunts pigs with his dogs. She's done a degree and a couple of diplomas.
 
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Zappa:
we're off to NZ again, moving to a town for which I haven't yet thought up a moniker, to a position which I won't identify here.

[Ultra confused]

Got that?

What a tease!

GG
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
Good to know you're moning up in the world [Razz]

Pack your winter woolies Zappa, you know that summer happens in February.

Huia
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
Briefly [Frown]

But I guess we'll survive (kuruman and kuruzapplet # 2 will thrive while kuruzapplet # 1 and I will shiver 361 days of the year).

But it's home.
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
Prayers for you and Kuruman in this expedition.
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
[Yipee] Today there is a party in town to celebrate the re-opening of Cathedral Square [Yipee] and it's sunny as well [Yipee]

The city is coming back, even if we still don't know the decision on the Cathedral [Confused] .

Huia
 
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on :
 
Chilling on the sunny Gold Coast. [Yipee] With extended family [Ultra confused]

mr curly
 
Posted by rexory (# 4708) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mr Curly:
Chilling on the sunny Gold Coast. [Yipee] With extended family [Ultra confused]

mr curly

Chilling here in Perth - because it's cold!
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
This video is a must see for all Anglicans in Sydney, especially those who will be attending Synod to elect a new archbishop. Quite short, but to the point.
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
[Killing me]

That was brilliant, thanks Loth!
 
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on :
 
Staying up late with Biggest and Middle watching the cricket.

mr curly
 
Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on :
 
I love that video! The dialogue (whatever it is) is so topical. And captioned.

Wipes [Tear]
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
I realise it's is probably a typo, but how did the ABC let a large poster go all through production and distribution with a spelling mistake? Local ABC shop is selling "Dr Who CUSIONS."
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
I didn't know that ++Canterbury had his own range of shops - is this the new look since Justin Welby took over?
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
Haha! National Broadcaster. Australian Broadcasting Commission.
 
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Welease Woderwick:
I didn't know that ++Canterbury had his own range of shops - is this the new look since Justin Welby took over?

He does, I was in one the other day, lovely range of rugby tops and sporting wear.
[Smile]
 
Posted by Rowen (# 1194) on :
 
Over the next two days, I will be involved with the State Government/Vic Council of Churches disaster chaplaincy program, as we go over to a group of villages in a mountainous area, and do post fire/flood impact assessment/pastoral care. If you have a spare moment in the next 48 hours, please keep us all in your prayers.
Today I went to a training day for another part of their processes. It has all been interesting so far, and I assume the next days will be too.
 
Posted by Macrina (# 8807) on :
 
I'm here! Landed on Sunday, cleared Immigration and am legal for at least a year. Woohoo. Bit of a shock coming from an actual bona fide Summer into a cold southerly though.

I've been staying with a friend for a week so took myself to her local Christchurch parish this week. They were lovely and welcoming and put me onto an Anglican parish right around the corner from me in my new city that I didn't know existed.

Timaru today.
 
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on :
 
Welcome to the Antipodes Macrina, hope you have a wonderful time.

Rowen [Votive] for the training and thank-you and PTL for the work that you and other clergy do in rural and remote areas. [Votive]
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
Welcome to the South Island Macrina, I hope you enjoy your time here.

Huia
 
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on :
 
quote:
At any rate, let's hope Rudd gets a chance to lead the way on compassionate response to asylum seekers. He remains one of my favourite political leaders.
Is he still a favourite Zappa?
 
Posted by Latchkey Kid (# 12444) on :
 
[Votive] Rowen [Votive]

Tell us how you go.
 
Posted by AdamPater (# 4431) on :
 
Can anyone here point me to where I need to go to apologise for being Australian?
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
I know it's no consolation Adam, but with the current government here I think the same would happen if they sailed further east.

Huia
 
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on :
 
Greetings, Macrina, from Te Ika a Maui. I'm sure you'll make good friends in Timaru and have many happy experiences.

GG
 
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on :
 
Top of page hog is back.

As is the very tired quiz master from soccer club trivia night. Ie back home watching the cricket.

mr curly
 
Posted by Evensong (# 14696) on :
 
Not quite the nailbiter it was last match.........bleeding runs at the mo.
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
Another quake - 6.7 centred in Seddon, a small town to the north. Felt here in Christchurch as a looonngg rolling one (because a second one followed the first). Closer to Wellington than Christchurch. Some buildings in Wellington lost windows

Hope GG and Arabella are OK.

Huia

[ 21. July 2013, 05:55: Message edited by: Huia ]
 
Posted by Arabella Purity Winterbottom (# 3434) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Huia:
Another quake - 6.7 centred in Seddon, a small town to the north. Felt here in Christchurch as a looonngg rolling one (because a second one followed the first). Closer to Wellington than Christchurch. Some buildings in Wellington lost windows

Hope GG and Arabella are OK.

Huia

Bit terrified, as it happens. There were heaps of quakes all day, and we're still getting them (I think its up to about 40 or more). We were woken up by a biggie, but this last one... Surprisingly, nothing fell over - I was standing in a doorway and our big bookshelf was swaying madly.

However, we accompanied Rosie's mum to a gathering of (mostly elderly) university graduate women this afternoon and heard an entertaining speech by the British High Commissioner, then a really interesting one by a young doctor who is doing research on tuberculosis.
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
Prayers for Arabella, Galloping Granny and Huia with the earthquake and aftershocks in the northern South Island. All the anxiety ond lack of sleep.....
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Gee D:
Prayers for Arabella, Galloping Granny and Huia with the earthquake and aftershocks in the northern South Island. All the anxiety ond lack of sleep.....

[Votive] from me too for all.
 
Posted by Wesley J (# 6075) on :
 
Indeed. [Votive]
 
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on :
 
I find earthquakes more interesting that terrifying* as long as I'm in a safe place – for the 6.5 I was in a building constructed with The Big One in mind so that it could be used as a Civil Defence centre. In fact a number of the Mature Adults present dived rather awkwardly under tables and struggled even more awkwardly to their feet afterwards.

*If I lived in Chch it would no doubt be different. But I lived in Murchison as a child, and was in Martinborough for the Masterton quake in about 1943, so an earthquake doesn't surprise me.

GG
 
Posted by Gracious rebel (# 3523) on :
 
This is all a bit unsettling ('scuse the pun) as I contemplate my visit to Christchurch (and elsewhere) in October to see my son - I already have enough things to worry about this trip, like travelling alone halfway round the world, possibly driving in a foreign country etc etc!

He has written an interesting blog entry about the recent opening up of the cordoned off area (Red Zone) of Christchurch after the big quakes Interesting as of course it is from the perspective of someone who has lived there for a year but until last week had never seen the city centre.
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
GG - that's a good place to be. I must say that having had both my chimneys demolished earlier meant I wasn't worried by the thought of bodily harm.

What caught me off balance with the 2 just after 5pm was that they were more rolling than the ones we have been having, and being so far away I wasn't sure whether they were quakes or some weird migraine that was affecting my balance.

Georgie-Porgy was reluctant to come into the house at first, but the lure of the food bowl was sufficient to change her mind [Big Grin] .

Huia
 
Posted by Athrawes (# 9594) on :
 
Horrible! Hoping this lot pass through quickly, and things stabilise . [Votive]
 
Posted by Arabella Purity Winterbottom (# 3434) on :
 
We are now up to about 80 earthquakes for the day! Huia, I don't know how you managed for months on end, because I feel totally frazzled. Fortunately, I seem to have run out of adrenaline for the moment, so hopefully I will sleep OK.

Some of the quakes have been no worse than a truck driving past would be, but several of them have been well and truly noticeable. My boss and I have been texting each other, and a friend from Christchurch was also in touch to check I was OK, so I feel well supported.

I just read that the hospital I work at has lost the some of the ceiling of the building next to ours.

Thanks for the prayers, I appreciate them.
 
Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on :
 
Prayers for all above and everyone else, as well [Votive]

Has anyone heard from cosmic dance?

Pete (Who, if had seen the country before 2011, would be already moved in, lock, stock and barrel)
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
GR - sorry, I wasn't ignoring your post. Lovely blogpost by your son.
 
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on :
 
Hang on – what country are we living in? I thought this must have come from The Onion but it seems to be genuinely from a reputable paper.

GG
 
Posted by Arabella Purity Winterbottom (# 3434) on :
 
That is hilarious, specially the bit about the earthquake being felt in Napier, Western Australia, some 3302km from Seddon, Melbourne.

Someone will be embarrassed, I hope.
 
Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on :
 
Don't be too upset. According the CBC (Canadian Broadcasting Corporation) online news, for several hours they were rabbiting on about an earthquake in New Zeland.
 
Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on :
 
And the Guardian should be embarrassed! They corrected the headline, but the story is still about Oz-tray-lia.
 
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on :
 
I didn't at first note that it's the GuardianExpress of Las Vegas.

Another proof that Americans don't know where New Zealand is.

GG
 
Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on :
 
Nor did I, actually. I wonder if some copyeditor will pull that story (and fire the writer).
 
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on :
 
New article here , but with a wildly misleading picture (from their library?)

GG
 
Posted by McChicken (# 2555) on :
 
The big one yesterday was certainly a shock - easily the biggest quake I've ever felt - but as I was just walking into the toilet when it hit, I'm glad it wasn't a minute later.

Had to go into Wgtn for work this morning (and got told to go home as soon as I'd finished what I had to do), and the city is empty. The lights are on but no-one's home. Hardly any damage visible (that I saw) but everyone's taking precautions and telling their employees not to come in until their buildings have been evaluated.

As for the GuardianLV article, the writer's blurb says he has been "a mime [and an] actor". My flatmate says, now he can add clown to the list. [Disappointed]
 
Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on :
 
If I recall correctly the original article was written by another "reporter". Hopefully he and his editor are looking for other jobs.

I hope more Wellingtonians shippies check in.
 
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on :
 
We now have three versions: the original article; above it a rewrite with apology by Tom Ukinsky; and in between a reasonably accurate version by another reporter. Not to mention several hundred comments.

I wish some generous benefactor would shout Tom a trip to NZ in the cause of international friendship and understanding

GG
 
Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on :
 
Well you can't expect much from a paper which gets its primary information from Fox News, eh? But I have enjoyed the brouhaha!
 
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by PeteC:
Well you can't expect much from a paper which gets its primary information from Fox News, eh? But I have enjoyed the brouhaha!

Tom's final rewrite quotes, as well as Fox News and NBC, Wellington's Dominion Post (x2), GeoNet, our National Business Review, Reuters, and Wikipedia.
That (young?) man's sure been on a steep learning curve.

GG
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
[Votive] Thinking of you Wellingtonians and those around the Sounds. [Votive]

So glad we're moving back to Napier. I'm sure they wouldn't have quakes there [Biased]
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Evangeline:
quote:
At any rate, let's hope Rudd gets a chance to lead the way on compassionate response to asylum seekers. He remains one of my favourite political leaders.
Is he still a favourite Zappa?
Mutter mutter curse curse. I have written to him expressing my rage. I don't think I will hold my breath for a response.
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
I've been listening to updates on the Seddon Sequence as the quakes are being called. About 30 buildings have superficial damage, but so far none are reported as having structural damage. About 5 or 6 people were treated at the hospital, but none is in a serious condition. A factor in the difference between Wellington and Christchurch damage is that Wellington, which historically has a history of quakes demanded a higher building standard than Christchurch.

In Blenheim (about 20 kms north of Seddon) tenants were worried about a building that was designed by the same person who did the CTV building (the one that collapsed killing over 100 people). The owners are saying it will be strengthened.

Seismologists apparently suggesting there is a one in 5 possibility of another Mag 6 quake in the next few weeks. [Eek!] I hope they are wrong. The stressful thing about quakes is not knowing when omn starts if it is going to be major or just like a big truck going past. it's wearying.

[Votive] for all those living in the quake zone. Keep some solid shoes and a torch near your bed.

Huia

Edited to add = one of my fave cities Zappa. I hope all goes well.

[ 22. July 2013, 11:30: Message edited by: Huia ]
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
Sorry about
"historically has a history of"

Huia - cringing.
 
Posted by Arabella Purity Winterbottom (# 3434) on :
 
Zappa I hope you and your family enjoy Napier. Its my ancestral area and where I grew up. I visit every month to see my mum and her cousins.

Huia, don't know if you saw Moata's column yesterday. She wrote a great list of things we should know that aren't in normal emergency instructions. It was comforting that I had already attended to all but one of them (which involved alcohol [Razz] ). There was another jolt around 1.30am this morning.

We're about to have our first great nephew visit us with his parents, from New York, arriving this morning. Our niece emailed on Sunday, nervously wondering if they were likely to be stuck in NZ if there was a big one. Fair worry, specially with their little one having had to have five heart surgeries already.
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
Thanks for the reminder Arabella - Moata's blog saw me through the worst of the quakes, but I hadn't visited lately. Her advice is the best I've seen anywhere and served with humour, which makes a scary time easier.

I'm hoping Wellington settles down before the end of the month as I have to be up there for a family conference. I feel safer here where the buildings most likely to fall already have [Tear] It's strange to realise but I haven't been further up in a building than one storey since February last year, also Christchurch being as it is I've rarely been more than a few feet above sea level.

Huia - feet firmly on the (shaking) ground.
 
Posted by Arabella Purity Winterbottom (# 3434) on :
 
Well the great nephew and his parents have arrived, very tired (and without luggage, which is ... somewhere, apparently).

He took one look at Rosie and shouted, "Nana." Which I thought was pretty good for a 20 month old, to make the connection between Rosie and her older sister (they do look alike).
 
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on :
 
We finally say goodbye to mr and mrs curly senior tomorrow. That's 18 days of not being blue to relax. I'm looking forward to the notion that help=criticize leaving my house, along with Sunrise and Deal or No Deal.

Biggest's slide into mediocrity was confirmed with his report that arrived home today.the evidence of the slackness and lying is now in black and white, so ton of bricks being loaded into the hopper.

Middle, who lacks the intellectual firepower, is working much harder.

Had a job interview today for potential contracting role. Seemed positive. Currently spending too much time on cricket blog, with uncertain financial return.

Frazzled overall!

mr curly
 
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Zappa:
So glad we're moving back to Napier. I'm sure they wouldn't have quakes there [Biased]

They've had their quota, surely?

Frequent prayerful thoughts regarding your forthcoming new venture.

GG
 
Posted by ozowen (# 8935) on :
 
[Votive] for all those on unsettled land.
[Votive] for those unsettled trying to land here.
[Votive] for politicians who think that it's OK to treat the refugee like they were detritus.... [Votive] with a really good dose of anger.
Bastards.
Was never gonna vote for Abbott but neither am I gonna vote for Rudd. If Turnbull was running right now I'd vote for him (If his asylum seeker policy had an ounce of decency and leadership in it)
 
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on :
 
Just for once I love Aussie TV: Essie Davis is Phryne Fisher and Kerry Greenwood is one of my most favourite authors.

GG
 
Posted by Rowen (# 1194) on :
 
Dear all-

Thanks for your prayers and comments re my working in disaster ministry last week… 6 months post-fires… Floods since… East Gippsland, Heyfield area. It was part of the on-going processes employed by the State Government and the Victorian Council of Churches.

We were sent out in pairs, to door knock properties (mostly farms) after extensive publicity re the visitation over several weeks. No-one knocked back a visit and a chance to talk. We were to be a if necessary, listening ear, a referral process, an info conduit and similar. Apparently 6 months is a crucial time in the recovery process.

Now having recovered my energy after my two day deployment in disaster ministries, ... I can reflect back....
The things that stand out:

The incredible amount of land burnt, trees/paddocks/fences gone... Rebuilding and replanting is taking a long time.
The beauty of the region, where it wasn't burnt away.
Little, lonely letter boxes at property gates... But no buildings are there now. Orphaned letter boxes....
Stories of heart-ache, strength, courage, resilience, compassion... So many stories
Symbols and images folk use, to make sense of what happened. One woman told us how her gardens were cremated, but now, with spring coming, she could plant again. And another woman who steadfastly plants daffodil bulbs. Because when they flower in spring, her heart will sing in the sun too.
Mud and flood and water everywhere, as winter is our wet season.... Black, ashed mud. Hard to drive through, but I had the four wheel drive which helped.
The great team of folk who planned this, and the structure in which we work
And finally, the black humour in our car, as my partner got in and out at the farm gates. However, in the haphazardness of fence rebuilding, every gate presents a challenge... Plus the sea of mud.... And dogs and so forth ... And no farms had street numbers up on the temporary gates... Watching the poor woman wrestle with the elements, giggling away. And then, the time where we parked to make notes, and after 10 minutes realising we had parked beside a dead cow.... silly things, but they relieved the tension of our work.

It was an amazing experience, and I was blessed to be asked to take part. I know the area in which we live, so I know this won’t be the last time.
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Galloping Granny:


Frequent prayerful thoughts regarding your forthcoming new venture.

GG

Thank you ... my fingernails are getting shorter
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Galloping Granny:
Just for once I love Aussie TV: Essie Davis is Phryne Fisher and Kerry Greenwood is one of my most favourite authors.

GG

Me too. Thanks for posting that.

When and where?

Zappa [Votive]

Huia
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
Life is just more of the same old here. One son is temping after being made redundant but has had hardly a nibble of worthwhile employment in two months.

I'm being grateful I can get good meat and fruit and vegetables delivered and groceries come from online ordering.

Eldest son is back where he was a year ago. After two ankle reconstructions from falling down fire escape at work, he then found a trapped nerve in his back from same fall. An operation then released the nerve but found more damage than anticipated. He was meticulous in following rehab instructions.

The disc was badly damaged and now he needs either a replacement disc or a fusion of several discs. He's in tremendous pain again, three morphine derivatives, Mobic and Endep, an anti-depressant also used for pain. He lives in a drug induced haze at the moment. His job is one of the very top behind the scenes of government in this state, regardless of politics.

Tonight he tells me that there is speculation that he picked up a very nasty deep seated infection in his spine at last operation. Nothing definite but a possibility. He is now on ultra-strong antibiotics twice a day for three weeks and yoghurt, probiotics etc as well.

And DIL who kicked youngest son out at Christmas has taken up with a very unsavoury fellow who is supplying her with illicit substances. And worse from him too.
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
[Votive]
 
Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on :
 
Many, many prayers for you, Loth. [Votive]
 
Posted by Rowen (# 1194) on :
 
My prayers too
 
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on :
 
Loth – thoughts and prayers. [Votive]

GG
 
Posted by Arleigh (# 5332) on :
 
[Votive]

ETA - for Loth and family, earthquake-ridden folk and Zappa's relocation.

And everyone, really

[ 26. July 2013, 07:42: Message edited by: Arleigh ]
 
Posted by Arabella Purity Winterbottom (# 3434) on :
 
[Votive] Lothlorien

Shakes seem to have settled down quite a bit. I think the best outcome is the number of people I know who have got their emergency kit together.

We are having a lovely time with Mr 20 Months. For a little one who has had 3 open heart surgeries, he's got a LOT of energy.
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
I'm sorry to hear about your eldest Lothlorien.
 
Posted by Latchkey Kid (# 12444) on :
 
[Votive] Lothlorien [Votive]
 
Posted by ozowen (# 8935) on :
 
[Votive] Lotho
 
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on :
 
Please spare a thought and a prayer for this long-time lay preacher taking her turn again tomorrow after several months' break. And for the little flock at St Andrew's-by-the-Sea.

GG
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Arabella Purity Winterbottom:

Shakes seem to have settled down quite a bit. I think the best outcome is the number of people I know who have got their emergency kit together.

[Hot and Hormonal] I haven't quite got it together again yet. Still I'm working on sorting my brother's one when I get there on Wednesday.

Loth, I'm thinking of you and your family - so much happening at once.

Huia
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
Thanks for prayers and good wishes. Eldest son is on nasty stuff, very strong anti biotic. However, surgeon told him of someone who went for a similar operation and infection was discovered. He was four weeks in hospital getting that cleared before the original op could be rescheduled.

On top of all this is a planned stay for unknown duration in Strasbourg for something I think is just not on. They both usually have very good discernment but I think friendship has clouded issues. So apparently this is still on, just delayed. I had hoped they may reconsider and they still could. So downsizing, packing, selling three houses and two units etc.
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
A group of people took the Christchurch diocese to court over the fate of the Cathedral. The upshot is that the diocese have the right to demolish what's left of the building. What will take its place is uncertain.

Meanwhile the cardboard Cathedral (on a different site) has had some problems with getting soggy in the huge storm a couple of weeks ago*, but is on track for opening in late August/September. The Catholics are going to build on adjacent land to their original site. The walls that are left of the current building are going to be taken down to a low level and a garden planted within them (from what I understand).

*the bit that got soggy won't be exposed to the elements when the Cathedral is built.

[ 28. July 2013, 05:39: Message edited by: Huia ]
 
Posted by Arabella Purity Winterbottom (# 3434) on :
 
Another good shake early this morning just after 1am. Rosie thought it was me rolling over...
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Galloping Granny:
quote:
Originally posted by Zappa:
we're off to NZ again, moving to a town for which I haven't yet thought up a moniker, to a position which I won't identify here.

[Ultra confused]

Got that?

What a tease!

GG

Henceforth, despite my outing myself (I'm hardly "in", location or identity wise, I suspect), St Legos on the Wobbly Bit. I'll change my location-line when we move in October.

And will always henceforth be very nice about bishops. Well my ones, anyway.
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
quote:
Henceforth, despite my outing myself (I'm hardly "in", location or identity wise, I suspect)
True.

[ 28. July 2013, 21:47: Message edited by: Lothlorien ]
 
Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on :
 
I, myself, am completely anonymous.

Stop sniggering, you lot!


I said stop it


NOW
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by PeteC:
I, myself, am completely anonymous.

Stop sniggering, you lot!


I said stop it


NOW

Don't blame me, Pete. I didn't let your secret out.
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Zappa:
quote:
Originally posted by Galloping Granny:
quote:
Originally posted by Zappa:
we're off to NZ again, moving to a town for which I haven't yet thought up a moniker, to a position which I won't identify here.

[Ultra confused]

Got that?

What a tease!

GG

Henceforth, despite my outing myself (I'm hardly "in", location or identity wise, I suspect), St Legos on the Wobbly Bit. I'll change my location-line when we move in October.

And will always henceforth be very nice about bishops. Well my ones, anyway.

Apt name. I just had a look. So you are lego man? [Biased]
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
Zappa, you would have been collated as an archdeacon in the NT - what is done to you now? My memory is that you are installed, literally* placed in a stall.

* note the correct use of literally.

[ 29. July 2013, 03:43: Message edited by: Gee D ]
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Lothlorien:
So you are lego man? [Biased]

[Axe murder] You betcha [Axe murder]
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
Yeah, Gee D - installed. What fun. I wonder if I have to be discollated or something first.
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
Arabella, my best non-earthquake shake was Georgie-Porgy launching herself from the cupboard onto the bed - I though it was at least 4.5 and couldn't work out why Geonet didn't register it [Roll Eyes]

I walked through the former red zone today, some of it for the first time. It was like one enormous building site. There are very few buildings between the river and the Cathedral, but lots of blokes, and a few women scurrying around like worker ants. Two things that raised my hopes were that my favourite building is still standing (with lots of bracing) and the sun caught the Chalice (which is a silver sculpture shaped like an ice cream cone made of pieces shaped like native tree leaves). I have always loved it. It was completed just before 9/11 and became a focal point for people leaving flowers and notes of condolence.

I am flying to Wellington on Wednesday and coming back by ferry and bus on Saturday. I am hoping there are no aftershocks while we're on the water as the ferry route is reasonably close to the epicentre of the quakes. Also Highway 1 travels through Seddon, the nearest small town. I can do without the extra excitement.

Huia

[ 29. July 2013, 08:49: Message edited by: Huia ]
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Zappa:
Yeah, Gee D - installed. What fun. I wonder if I have to be discollated or something first.

s long as that is limited to bashing you (lightly) around the shoulders, rather than severing them from your head, it should not be too bad.
 
Posted by Tukai (# 12960) on :
 
Well, that's our church bazaar over for another year. Fun while it lasted, though hard work for Mrs T and me , who (as usual) ran the book stall. We might be doing it another country next year, as moving plans are being formulated.
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Huia:
I am hoping there are no aftershocks while we're on the water as the ferry route is reasonably close to the epicentre of the quakes.

A wobble whilst in state Strait or anywhere at sea would be utterly harmless. State Highway One could be nasty.

Funnily enough I used to live on State Highway One. Raumati, though.
 
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on :
 
Just surfacing after a full on month of significant family birthdays, a kairos outside mission (yes, at a southern campsite in July - it snowed - I now have a headcold) and visits from assorted family.

Perhaps the best thing about all of the above is that some of them have now discovered why I bother to be a Godbotherer. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
Thanks for that Zappa - I couldn't work out whether it would be better or worse. Earthquake brain strikes again.

Did you see
Second Hand Wedding? it's set in Raumati with some lovely shots of Kapiti.

Huia
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
Meanwhile my school has been rocked by another young male dying suddenly last night. Can't say more than that, but I'd appreciate a prayer or two for all concerned.
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
You've got them. [Votive]
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
Yes, prayers indeed, Zappa.
 
Posted by Patdys (# 9397) on :
 
[Votive]
And the odd scream on your behalf.
 
Posted by Evensong (# 14696) on :
 
[Votive] [Votive]
 
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on :
 
[Votive]

GG
 
Posted by Dark Knight (# 9415) on :
 
I make a rare appearance up here with sad tidings. Our shipmate Mullygrub (once known as St Steph) lost her father last night. He died suddenly of a heart attack at the young age of 56.
Please keep her and her family in your prayers.
[Votive]
And for Zappa and his school [Votive]
 
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on :
 
[Votive]

mr curly
 
Posted by rexory (# 4708) on :
 
[Votive] and [Votive]
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
[Votive] Father of Mullygrub and all the grubs
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
Yes indeed
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
Mully Grub and family [Votive]

For the family and friends of the young man Zappa mentioned.

I'm back, I'm tired but the earth was reasonably quiet and for that I'm happy.

Huia
 
Posted by Clarence (# 9491) on :
 
[Votive] [Votive]
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
Welcome back Clarence, and best wishes to you and FD. Now all we need is for Multipara to return (and put her sharp common sense into some of the sillier threads).
 
Posted by AdamPater (# 4431) on :
 
Multipara is banned. Though when we last spoke I'm not sure she'd noticed.
 
Posted by Clarence (# 9491) on :
 
Thanks Gee D. It's nice to be back.
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by AdamPater:
Multipara is banned. Though when we last spoke I'm not sure she'd noticed.

Thank you - I thought that she had been given a fortnight's shore leave, but did not know she'd been banned.
 
Posted by James the Confident (# 9678) on :
 
[Votive] [Votive]
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Clarence:
Thanks Gee D. It's nice to be back.

It's a very nice back. Well I assume it is. I haven't inspected it. But it has a nice owner. How's life down in those Antarctic necks of the woods?
 
Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Gee D:
quote:
Originally posted by AdamPater:
Multipara is banned. Though when we last spoke I'm not sure she'd noticed.

Thank you - I thought that she had been given a fortnight's shore leave, but did not know she'd been banned.
As far as I know she is not banned. She was given two weeks for arguing with an Admin in the wrong place and chose not to come back.
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
That was my recollection. We need her back.
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
Prayers for our diocesan synod opening tomorrow, electing a new Archbishop. May the Holy Spirit guide the choice of a good and godly man.
 
Posted by rexory (# 4708) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Gee D:
Prayers for our diocesan synod opening tomorrow, electing a new Archbishop. May the Holy Spirit guide the choice of a good and godly man.

Now that's a tough election. Almost on a par with September 7 :-)
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
Only 2 candidates and both stress that it's carry on as now - no changes alas. Sounds almost as bad as the refugee policies.
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by rexory:
quote:
Originally posted by Gee D:
Prayers for our diocesan synod opening tomorrow, electing a new Archbishop. May the Holy Spirit guide the choice of a good and godly man.

Now that's a tough election. Almost on a par with September 7 :-)
However one is considerably younger than the other and could be there twenty years. [Eek!]

[ 04. August 2013, 12:28: Message edited by: Lothlorien ]
 
Posted by Latchkey Kid (# 12444) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by PeteC:
quote:
Originally posted by Gee D:
quote:
Originally posted by AdamPater:
Multipara is banned. Though when we last spoke I'm not sure she'd noticed.

Thank you - I thought that she had been given a fortnight's shore leave, but did not know she'd been banned.
As far as I know she is not banned. She was given two weeks for arguing with an Admin in the wrong place and chose not to come back.
Multipara is not listed in the directory (like FD) and I thought that indicated a banning.
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Lothlorien:
However one is considerably younger than the other and could be there twenty years. [Eek!]

And having little or no administrative experience, may be open to "guidance" from others, at least in the initial years of office.

I am very glad I shall not be attending Synod.
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
Then again, if the other is elected, your parish will have a new bishop.

I know there has been a fair bit said and done behind the scenes but there seems to me to be a lot of jockeying for positions in the future by the young bloods or heavies in the diocese. I've also seen comments on the web by some who have obviously been told what to say.

I certainly agree abut not wishing to be there.
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Gee D:
Prayers for our diocesan synod opening tomorrow, electing a new Archbishop. May the Holy Spirit guide the choice of a good and godly man.

But they haven't asked me ... oh well ... I'll stay close to the phone
 
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on :
 
The holiday that turned to custard.. Tony had major stomach pains Friday night – ambulance to Thames while I grabbed a few necessities (and forgot some) and drove to follow (95 minutes) – another ambulance to Waikato Base hospital, 90 minutes at 95 kph (not because of urgency but long straight roads over the Hauraki Plain) with me right behind so as not to get lost.
Big shot doctor still deciding what to do, while I sit quietly in the hostel with my Macbook finishing off the church newsletter (due tomorrow) and Tony's semi-comatose in the ward.
Huge hospital but I'm beginning to find my way round – they have shuttles to take you round if needed.

GG
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
[Votive] [Votive] for you both, GG.
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
[Votive] from here, too.
 
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on :
 
Prayers for you GG and everyone else with illnesses and stress [Votive]


The election of the Abp of Sydney is interesting and yes I think there's a lot of jockeying for position with the younger generation. Of course in some ways the most interesting thing about this election is the impact it will have on the abp after that (the annointed one is extremely conservative but he may not wait around for 15-20 years).
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
Prayers from us both to you GG
 
Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on :
 
Many prayers for you and The Granddad, GG! God hold you both in his hands. [Votive]
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
[Votive] [Votive] Galloping Grandparents
 
Posted by Arabella Purity Winterbottom (# 3434) on :
 
Rosie and I will be thinking of you both GG.
 
Posted by Evensong (# 14696) on :
 
[Votive] [Votive] Tony and GG
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
Thinking of you and the Grandad, GG and hoping that his health has taken a turn for the better overnight. [Votive]

Huia

[ 05. August 2013, 19:26: Message edited by: Huia ]
 
Posted by Barnabas Aus (# 15869) on :
 
Our prayers for all who are ill or grieving.

We have been preoccupied this last couple of weeks with my recovery from second cataract operation and yet another change to my wife's pain meds, so please forgive the tardy response.

On electoral matters, Newcastle reconvenes on September 14 for another attempt at a new diocesan. No public announcement as to nominees this time though.
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
Bishop Glenn Davies has been elected Archbishop of Sydney. Figures from yesterday published in SydAng site suggested to me this would be the case.

Here's the SMH take on it. (tinyURL)
 
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on :
 
Good news I think Loth, well as good as could be expected.Will be interesting to see if Smith runs at the next election.
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
In the photo he wasn't wearing a purple stock!
 
Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on :
 
Sound like the same old. eh? Names have been changed, that's all.
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by PeteC:
Sound like the same old. eh? Names have been changed, that's all.

Not quite that Pete C, glad to say. When Bishop Glenn has come to confirm or preach, he's always vested properly in good old fashioned style, looking like a nineteenth century portrait. I'm not sure that Canon Smith would do the same, but perhaps he'll be our new Regional Bishop (groans)?
 
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on :
 
Tonight, Little Miss puts her last tooth in a glass for The Tooth Fairy . . .
. . . and it is a year today since my GP rang up and told me to ring an ambulance and get to hospital forthwith.

mr curly
 
Posted by Firenze (# 619) on :
 
What's the TF paying out these days? When I still had teeth to spare it was sixpence (which in Those Days would buy you enough sweeties to rot out a few more molars).
 
Posted by the giant cheeseburger (# 10942) on :
 
Last I heard from my uncle who is paying out roughly once a month at the moment, it was $2 (just less than a pound) because it's the largest amount possible without going to multiple coins or a $5 note.

Mum helpfully decided to pass on one extra rule that the tooth fairy applied ruthlessly in our house - if a dentist had to pull it out you got nothing!
 
Posted by rexory (# 4708) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mr Curly:
and it is a year today since my GP rang up and told me to ring an ambulance and get to hospital forthwith.

mr curly

Glad you're still here, Mr C. It's a good anniversary!
 
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on :
 
Indeed Rexory, and there are some celebrations planned with two of my mates (one who had a potentially more catastrophic cardiac arrest a few years ago) in a few weeks. I suspect BBQ pork ribs and amber fluid will be consumed in immoderate quantities.

We've signed off on the tooth fairy at $2 per tooth. We've had no extractions, but agree that the tooth fairy will not attend in those circumstances.

mr curly
 
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on :
 
When our kids were getting sixpence (they're now in their 40s) the neighbours were getting half a crown. I didn't think a fairy was big enough to carry such a weight.
Of course an Aussie $2 is smaller than a $1, isn't it? That would send the price up these days.
Those same neighbours had their kids hunting Easter Eggs on Good Friday. And he came from a good Methodist family.

The Grandad is having a relatively modest operation tomorrow to clear the blockage in his gut. Fortunately small as he mightn't survive a major procedure.

GG – who drove 300 kms yesterday to pick up more clothes & deal with left behind food etc, and 300 km back today, and is glad that there are shuttle-buses round this vast hospital by day while a tired Granny can be brought back to the hostel in a wheel chair in the evening if she can't crawl home by herself.
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
GG, I had just popped out to send you an email. I am really impressed by the kilometres and the speed you're clocking up. I hope you get a chance for a rest while the grandad is in hospital.

Huia
 
Posted by Jengie Jon (# 273) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Welease Woderwick:
In the photo he wasn't wearing a purple stock!

Reading far to much into it. I did a check and this is how Archbishop Welby on the announcement of his appointment as Archbishop.

Jengie
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
Yes, you take it easy as well GG and get some rest. Can you look into a bit of support for when you get back home?
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Gee D:
Yes, you take it easy as well GG and get some rest. Can you look into a bit of support for when you get back home?

That sounds like a really good idea. There's always more to such events than just physical tiredness.
 
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Gee D:
Yes, you take it easy as well GG and get some rest. Can you look into a bit of support for when you get back home?

Should be possible when we get back to the city, but the first thing will be to resume our holiday at Matarangi, which is pretty laid back. Not much housework – cleaner comes in when we've gone. The beauty of having a place there is that everything's simple: the house isn't full of forty years' STUFF, there are trees with a tui chattering outside our window, a few neighbours might turn up at the weekend but it's otherwise very quet, and the Grandad does jigsaws and dozes after lunch.
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
Sounds like our place down the coast - the only thing to do is nothing. Just make sure you both rest and enjoy it.
 
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Gee D:
Sounds like our place down the coast - the only thing to do is nothing. Just make sure you both rest and enjoy it.

First we have to get through. All the big shots round the bed this morning – have to do a lesser but urgent procedure this afternoon to relieve pressure in the gut; more has to be done but not till pneumonia's dealt with. All risks clearly defined. Scary.

GG
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
Many prayers for you both GG.

I've had pneumonia badly a few years ago and remember how dreadful it was. Combine with the stomach problems and I can see how scary it must be for you.

Prayers for medical staff too.

[ 09. August 2013, 01:34: Message edited by: Lothlorien ]
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
GG, special prayers from both of us for you, the Granddad and those caring for him.
 
Posted by James the Confident (# 9678) on :
 
Prayers for GG & GD. [Votive]
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
Off for coffee with Cusanus. Madteawoman has been behaving at my conference, so all is well.
 
Posted by ozowen (# 8935) on :
 
Ozheather & I are crook as dogs at the mo'. Got all the energy of lead.
 
Posted by Clarence (# 9491) on :
 
[Votive] Get well all!
 
Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Zappa:
Off for coffee with Cusanus. Madteawoman has been behaving at my conference, so all is well.

But isn't it when she's misbehaving that it's more fun?

And say hi to Cusanus. I miss him on these boards.

ps - just noticed post dates. Ah well, send him a note, willya?
 
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on :
 
Checking in with a chest infection here. On the positive side, the jonquils and daffodils are out, and the wattle is blooming everywhere. Spring is definitely just around the corner, so am expecting to come off the antibiotics and then have to go on to hayfever meds....sincere sympathy for all others trying to get their health and energy back.
 
Posted by Barnabas Aus (# 15869) on :
 
Confirmed on the Newcastle Diocese Facebook page yesterday that the only candidate for the episcopal election is Rt Rev Greg Thompson, Bishop of the Northern Territory. Please pray that we can achieve the necessary majority in both houses of synod to elect our new diocesan bishop.
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
Zappa's on his way across the Tasman. If Bishop Greg goes, who will be left? A very difficult diocese to go into at any level, I'd think.
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
Kuruman will be back over the Tasman too with Zappa, leaving her diocesan position.

I wonder if the tentacles which have reached the far north west of WA will think of spreading into NT?

[ 12. August 2013, 07:31: Message edited by: Lothlorien ]
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
That's right - even fewer left. That's in a diocese strapped for people and even more strapped for money.
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Lothlorien:
Kuruman will be back over the Tasman too with Zappa, leaving her diocesan position.

I wonder if the tentacles which have reached the far north west of WA will think of spreading into NT?

They will. And I do not feel proud. [Tear]
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
My suspicion is that one result of the election of ++Glenn will be some considerable restraint in that sort of activity. The failure of Canon Smith's candidacy has been a real slap in the face for Dean Phillip Jensen and those who surround him, one whose sting will last quite a few years.
 
Posted by ozowen (# 8935) on :
 
I have been thinking of the benefits of being sick. It might be marginally better than listening to ABBA or having to study the art of enemas. (not a lot of difference between those comparison points really).
 
Posted by hugorune (# 17793) on :
 
Hi all,
I'm new here and looking for a bit of advice. I grew up a baptised Christian, but I was also gay and in the closet, there was no one I trusted to speak to about it. My church was fundamentalist and as I teenager I heard no answers other than condemnation, and naively praying to God asking him to change me ended in nothing, other than deep spiritual discouragement. I'll spare the details, other than to say it was a difficult time, until I cleared my head in my early twenties and convinced myself that it was all just nonsense anyway.
So I carried on with my life - but I was never truly an atheist. I dabbled a bit with paganism (not to the silly extent of summoning spirits or anything) and then pantheism, finally coming to a vague conclusion that there is innately a divine aspect to the universe, but still rejecting the idea that man has any right to 'put a box around' that (based on the hurt and bloodshed that I see religious differences causing, surely no good God could will that to happen in his/her name).
But more recently I've come full circle, in a sense. An overwhelming need hit me last week, it was a certain conviction that there were ills in my own life, and in the world, that cannot be healed through human strength alone, and that I needed to submit myself and reconcile with God, and the church. Most urgently, my father angrily rejected me when I came out to him over a decade ago, it wounded me deeply, and I cannot find the strength to forgive him, as we cannot bring it up. It is like a wound to the soul that will not close up, because we still talk to each other (perhaps we would not if it were not that I need to see my mother) yet the atmosphere is thick with unspoken bitterness and lack of trust - even if it is in my head. The thought that it is painful for him as well brings me to tears sometimes.
But getting back to reconciliation with the church. This is not a new idea for me, it is only the strength of conviction and the determination that are new. But there are few churches where I can feel comfortable. A few years ago I attempted to return to a church of the same denomination I grew up in. The style of music was less traditional than I prefer, but I was feeling closer to God in the worship. When I came out in private to the pastor, there was an unequivocal response that homosexuality was sinful and I could not be a Christian if I believed otherwise. That is a 'stumbling block' for me. I am not promiscuous - quite the opposite - but I am not going to vow myself to either lifelong chastity or trying to pretend I'm straight, when I'm not. I quite believe that it's possible - and productive to read the Bible in context, and look for meaning that brings our hearts closer to God, rather than attempting to feed prejudices and divisions. I mean, I have to. Fundamentalism just has not worked for me, and I'm savvy enough to know that 'ex-gay' theory is a pile of stupid bullshit anyway, pardon the language.
So now, in my mid thirties and in Melbourne, I need to start from square one. I've given up on fundamentalist evangelical churches, they are written off for me personally. I am not even interested in attending charismatic churches. My Protestant training leaves me with some hang-ups about the Roman church, largely historical, but they are there anyway. I am thinking I should continue my search in the Anglican church, while I only attended once as a child I did then love the liturgy and the music - my love for music from the Church's history has never once left me, even though the lyrics have become personally confusing. I am also seeking theological understanding that does not compromise the brain God has granted me, and most importantly spiritual devotion that brings me close to God.
So, you guys in this forum seem an insightful lot. Am I on the right track?
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ozowen:
I have been thinking of the benefits of being sick. It might be marginally better than listening to ABBA or having to study the art of enemas. (not a lot of difference between those comparison points really).

I'm not sick, but I'm having a mental health day. That's much more fun.

Huggorune - welcome to the Ship. I can't help with any practical info as I'm from the other side of the ditch but it sounds like that could be a good plan.

I was talking to the Minister at the Presbytarian Church where I worship yesterday and reflecting how healing it has been for me being part of a church where I don't have to check my brain at the door and, even more importantly, where I feel loved and accepted as I am.

I hope you find that too.

Huia
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by hugorune:
Hi all ... Am I on the right track?

Firstly welcome. I'm off to umpire (netball) right now, but I'd like at the very least to say yes there's a right track there. From your history it could be hard to overcome the mysteries of liturgy, but there are plenty of places in Melbourne that have no difficulty with gay members.

If you can master the technology, PM me.

As it happens I was in Melbourne last weekend. Great banner on the cathedral.

[ 14. August 2013, 08:28: Message edited by: Zappa ]
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Gee D:
My suspicion is that one result of the election of ++Glenn will be some considerable restraint in that sort of activity. The failure of Canon Smith's candidacy has been a real slap in the face for Dean Phillip Jensen and those who surround him, one whose sting will last quite a few years.

I so hope so, and the signs are good. There may yet be a God in the Anglican church.
 
Posted by Jengie Jon (# 273) on :
 
Hugorone

I read your post and noticed the way it is worded. I suspect that given that is the way you feel, you need to at least start somewhere, where there is a fully developed theology of reconciliation. That means actually approaching a totally different part of the Christian spectrum and going to Roman Catholic, maybe Orthodox, Lutheran or Anglo-Catholic wing. Actually I wonder if you first step might not be to visit an Anglican religious order. Here is one with Melbourne Connections and another.

Jengie
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
I cannot speak of the Community of the Holy Name, but the Benedictines do their work by printing the sheets we (and presumably others) use on Sundays, containing the Sentence and Collect for the day, and the lectionary readings as well.

I don't know enough of Melbourne church life to recommend parish churches, except to say that there must be Anglican churches there, like ours, who welcome gays into their community. Most Anglo-Catholicism in Australia is of the liberal, Aff Cath variety. Some are not, and by searching the Forward in Faith site you'll find the parishes where the vicar belongs to that grouping. A good place to start experiencing Anglo-Catholic worship, if that interests you, may well be St Paul's Cathedral. It is well placed for public transport, and like most cathedrals, you can attend and still remain a bit apart.
 
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jengie Jon:
Hugorone

I read your post and noticed the way it is worded. I suspect that given that is the way you feel, you need to at least start somewhere, where there is a fully developed theology of reconciliation. That means actually approaching a totally different part of the Christian spectrum and going to Roman Catholic, maybe Orthodox, Lutheran or Anglo-Catholic wing. Actually I wonder if you first step might not be to visit an Anglican religious order. Here is one with Melbourne Connections and another.

Jengie

Rev Margaret Mayman, a great minister and leader in our gay rights movement in the NZ Presbyterian church, especially recently sticking up for the gay marriage movement, is moving to Oz, not sure exactly when. I can remember Pitt Street, think it's Melbourne, and it would be UCA. Can anyone confirm the details? It would certainly be a welcoming place.

PS Grandad making a slow recovery, still attached to all sorts of wires and tubes but very excited yesterday at being given an iceblock and some jelly and fruit juice. Hoping to have him repatriated to Wellington hospital; it will be a long hard job to get his strength back after lying in bed for a couple of weeks and more. And I'll have to pack up at Matarangi and get son to come and help me drive home.
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
Have been praying for you both, GG, and am glad to see your update. Yes, bed rest is needed, could hardly be anything else, but it too can be debilitating.

Pitt Street and Uniting to me means Pitt Street Uniting church, Sydney. Here's a link. It's right in Sydney CBD.


[corrected link coding - WW]

[ 15. August 2013, 01:45: Message edited by: Welease Woderwick ]
 
Posted by Laud-able (# 9896) on :
 
To Hugorone:

Welcome.

You might like to explore the list of welcoming Anglican congregations at Changing Attitude. If those that I know at first-hand are representative of the whole, you should do well. I hope that one or two may be close enough for you to visit.

Regarding Sydney and the soon-to-be Archbishop Glenn Davies, there is some pleasure to be had simply from the frustration of Bishop Jensen and his followers.

However, it was Bishop Davies who in 2008 proposed the resolution of the Sydney Synod that there was no legal impediment to deacons presiding at the Eucharist, a resolution that also affirmed lay presidency.

Although the Appellate Tribunal ruled in 2010 that presidency by laypeople and deacons at the Eucharist is not permitted under General Synod canons, I am not aware that Sydney has rescinded the resolution.

I shall wait and see.
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
GG - I'm glad to hear the Grandad is recovering, albeit slowly. I hope the transfer to Wellington Hospital makes things easier for both of you in that you will have friends around for support.

I [Axe murder] the people at my church. When I was last there I mentioned that the loop system (that makes it easier for hearing aid users to hear) wasn't operating properly. On Sunday it was loud and clear [Yipee] It's really easy to feel isolated when you don't hear things properly.

Huia
 
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on :
 
Welcome Hugerone. I do hope Orfeo pops in from Hell to say hello too. He might have some advice for you as you navigate the well-trod boards of this ship. You will definitely find a vast array of company here, many of us refugees from our cradle churches. Don't worry about the bunny with the axe, the mouse, or anyone whose avatar figure is wearing a hat. And Jugular, well, he's just a real sweetheart...

[Razz]
 
Posted by Rowen (# 1194) on :
 
Hello Hugerone.... Welcome to the Ship. Although I am not Victorian, I do live in the state, but know little about Melbourne. I hope you can find a suitable community of faith somewhere.

Life continues on here in the cold.... Saw snow last week in my mountains. Anyway, two conferences backing on to each other. Will my head explode? Maybe. Frontier Services clergy in Darwin next week. Then police chaplaincy in Melbourne. Both interesting, yet both too close together!
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
Welcome Hugerone on board. I hope you find a place to settle in and be comfortable. I know nothing about Melbourne churches as I'm in Sydney. If Vulpior looks in, he may possibly know something about churches in Melbourne.

Rowen, not only your head might explode with two conferences like that. I find most conferences seem to fill head and also over cater with too many meals and snacks. Melbourne and Darwin? Sublime to ridiculous as to climate, whichever way you look at it.

[ 15. August 2013, 07:06: Message edited by: Lothlorien ]
 
Posted by Rowen (# 1194) on :
 
Yes, the climate thingie IS funny!
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
Laud-able, that motion has not been rescinded, but the particular issue is not out in front at the moment, glad to say. An indicator that + Glenn will be an improvement over ++ Peter is that during the recent campaign, Dean Jensen said that + Glenn was "not sound".
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
GG, prayers for continued progress by the GrandDad. I hope it was a lemonade ice block he was given as I suppose that champagne ones are definitely not allowed. Make sure that you get plenty of rest yourself and don't overdo things.
 
Posted by Arabella Purity Winterbottom (# 3434) on :
 
Whole series of largish earthquakes going on here. First was 6.2 around 2.30pm and almost constant shakes since, several over 5. I was driving home from a team day in Kapiti when it started - very glad I was pointed in the home direction - and its taken 2 and a half hours to get home (normally about 30 min from where I was).
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
[Votive] for all affected by the earthquakes [Votive]
 
Posted by Wesley J (# 6075) on :
 
[Votive]
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
I've just been talking to my oldest brother in Wellington and suggesting he removes his books from the bookcase above his bed or sleeps in another room, right in the corner between two internal walls which is the safest place to be. I wish I had helped him sort out emergency supplies when I was up there.

[Votive] for those in the area affected -continuous shakes like that wear you down.

And [Votive] x10 for anyone who has to deal with EQC, they deserve their own hell thread.

Huia
 
Posted by Anglo Catholic Relict (# 17213) on :
 
[Votive] For those affected by the earthquakes.
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
[Votive] for NZ, Huia and all affected by these quakes.
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
Prayers for all in NZ affected by the latest earthquakes. Has anyone heard from GG?
 
Posted by Arabella Purity Winterbottom (# 3434) on :
 
I'm hoping the Grandad has been kept where he was and not sent back to Wellington. Quite terrifying enough to be sick in hospital without having to be shaken around.

Still shaking every 5 mins or so, but mostly very quietly. I managed to sleep through the night, but I've woken up with really sore muscles - think I must have been more tense than I thought!

Thank you all for the thoughts and prayers. It will be a quiet day, making sure our emergency gear is to hand, in the Winterbottom household.
 
Posted by Emendator Liturgia (# 17245) on :
 
[Votive] for all those suffering in the shakey isles. sorry I didn't post earlier but have been away for a week - even been away from any TV set, so didn't know of the latest quakes in NZ.
 
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Arabella Purity Winterbottom:
I'm hoping the Grandad has been kept where he was and not sent back to Wellington. Quite terrifying enough to be sick in hospital without having to be shaken around.
.

They are talking about 'repatriating' him on Monday if his lungs can be cleared enough. I guess that would be in the Wellington Life Flight plane that's painted as if wrapped in bandages.

I sit in his cubicle full of amazing technology – it was only opened a couple of weeks ago – and thinking of what it would cost in the US, and giving thanks for a health service that works. I even have my accommodation paid for.

As for earthquakes: they've always been a part of my life. I'm a bit disappointed to be missing out on the excitement. But at least one has been felt here in Hamilton. And it's not the Wellington Fault twitching, but more in the Seddon cluster.

It seems there was a mag 4 about half an hour ago.
Details at Geonet
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
When Geonet says "recent" it means it less than 90 minutes ago!

Thanks for the medical update. Thoughts and prayers continuing.
 
Posted by Vulpior (# 12744) on :
 
Thoughts and prayers for all in need. I've been lurking a lot, and I've started a few replies on other threads, but didn't complete them; too tired or busy to feel that I was putting in a useful contribution. But I thought I should particularly look in after the shakes over the ditch, remembering our time in Wellington for the footy earlier this year.

I'm afraid I can't offer anything on LGBT-welcoming/affirming congregations in Melbourne, although I have looked at the Changing Attitude list and it seems to be fairly well biased towards Melbourne and then Sydney.
 
Posted by Athrawes (# 9594) on :
 
Emerging from lurkerdom to add my prayers for all you lovely and amazingly brave people being shaken about! Just the thought terrifies me, and I can't believe you are *still* going through this. Seriously praying the earth will settle *soon*!
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
Thoughts and prayers for my Wellingtonian friends and family. Hope the ABs cheered (some of) you up tonight. Even the aged parent is sounding a little fed up with the wobbles.
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jengie Jon:
Here is one

They are a wonderful group of human beings who have weathered considerable change in the last 30 years, and done it well. An order of utter integrity.
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
Yay - the small lump cut out of my back wasn't malignant [Yipee]

Now I can obsess about something else [Paranoid]

Huia
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
Good news Huia. [Yipee]

Perhaps you could help me stress about the lack of choice here in the election. Both major parties have absolutely disgusting policies sending asylum seekers away. My electorate has several candidates for dubious minor parties. The sitting member is a cabinet minister and I didn't even recognise him when on TV news the other day. I have never heard of his main opponent.

I usually vote below the line and make up my own mind about where my preferences will go. I can tell you right now that someone I used to be associated with, will not be getting my preferences for the Senate vote. Now apparently president of the NSW branch of a party led by a Victorian whose last name rhymes with "liar," he is running for the Senate here. Just done $2000 as he won't get his deposit back. He doesn't stand a chance.

[ 19. August 2013, 09:19: Message edited by: Lothlorien ]
 
Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Huia:
Yay - the small lump cut out of my back wasn't malignant [Yipee]

Now I can obsess about something else [Paranoid]

Huia

[Yipee]
 
Posted by Arabella Purity Winterbottom (# 3434) on :
 
Its a good feeling, that, and a relief.
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
Huia, thanks for sharing that marvellous news with us. We had a bottle of your enjoyable pinot with dinner to celebrate. Best wishes.

[ 19. August 2013, 11:01: Message edited by: Gee D ]
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
Good news, Huia. [Yipee]


Yup, I'll be voting for the Calathumpian Walrus Party. Never have I been so sickened by Australian politics. Crickey.com has had a cartooning field day, though ...

In the sermon linked below I outlined my theological anger. To my amazement on of my most stalwart Conservatives came to me nearly in tears - I thought I was in for a roasting - but she simply poured out her horror at the indecency of both major parties.
 
Posted by mertide (# 4500) on :
 
Just voted, early. Now I can completely ignore the farce for the next few weeks.
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
I'm rather excited to find that my book is now formally listed on my publishers' website. Er ... at a discount price. Does that mean I've been remaindered?

Oh well: writing - it was a fun career while it lasted!
 
Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Zappa:
I'm rather excited to find that my book is now formally listed on my publishers' website. Er ... at a discount price. Does that mean I've been remaindered?

Oh well: writing - it was a fun career while it lasted!

The market for doorstops is rather limited and competitive in academic publishing. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by jugular (# 4174) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Banner Lady:
And Jugular, well, he's just a real sweetheart...

I see you taunting me, Lady. And here I am.

The telly is coming tomorrow to make moving pictures of me talking about the gays and such. Hugerone, you can PM me as well. There's a fair few affirming congregations in Melbourne, including some protestant ones. There's also some erstwhile shipmates who know things about such matters.™
 
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on :
 
Update on the Holiday that Turned to Custard. I've driven back to Matarangi from That wonderful Waikato Hospital, who report that the Grandad has left there – rang Wellington Hospital to find that he's expected but hasn't arrived yet. So he must be somewhere in the sky or otherwise being transferred in an ambulance.
It seems there will be quite a long period of recovery, especially after all this time lying in bed. I've told him that if he works hard at doing everything those nice physios tell him, he can aim at coming north to resume his holiday round the end of November.
And Wonderful Son (his label when programming my cell phone) is flying up to drive me home.

A note – One of our congregation was once minister at the church near the hospital. She alerted them and they rallied round, took me to church both Sundays, took me shopping (I'd left with one change of clothes) – I've made at least one good friend there, whose daughter is in the home congo.

GG
 
Posted by Clarence (# 9491) on :
 
[Votive] GG and Grandad
[Votive] Huia
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
GG - good on your son. You've probably done 6 months driving in a couple of weeks. And what wonderful help from your "borrowed" congregation. Another bottle of Huia's pinot with tonight's dinner, I think.
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
GG - the Presbytarian mafia strikes again. It's good you had that support, and wonderful son deserves the title. Best wishes to the Grandad on his recovery.

Clarence, I must try some of that.

Fine weather for my day off. I've already biked to the local shops and am now going into town [Yipee]

Cyclists Rule! (I don't wear lycra, nor jump red lights and only go onto the footpath if threatened).

Huia
 
Posted by ozowen (# 8935) on :
 
Well personally I am loving this election.
I love the commitment to a decent and caring approach to asylum seekers.
I admire the way both parties have agreed to and committed to a positive campaign.
I am flattered that such quality representatives are seeking my vote.
I can only be heartened by their leadership, their honesty and their vision.
As they say in Russia "Fuggemoff!"
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
[Killing me] [Help] [Killing me]
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ozowen:
Well personally I am loving this election.
I love the commitment to a decent and caring approach to asylum seekers.
I admire the way both parties have agreed to and committed to a positive campaign.
I am flattered that such quality representatives are seeking my vote.
I can only be heartened by their leadership, their honesty and their vision.
As they say in Russia "Fuggemoff!"

Wish I lived where Ozowen lives! [Biased]

The choice in my electorate is abysmal. Labor, Libs, Bullet train party, one of Palmer's candidates and a green who looks as if he just fell out of his tree. The only one I have ever heard of before is the Labor sitting member who is also a Cabinet Minister. I saw him on TV the other day and didn't recognise him. Not exactly known in his own electorate.

I was once a Liberal supporter, like any good little Christian of my acquaintance then, but haven't been for quite a few years now. Couldn't stand Howard. However, with the dreadful policies for asylum seekers I have no wish to vote for either major party.

I've been sitting here working out how to gamble with my preferential vote to make a protest statement.

I always vote below the line for Senate and haven't even started on those except a a few I know I will definitely exclude. The ex-Mr Lothlorien has drawn a position relatively close to the top of the Senate paper. Must be careful there and also with Christian Democrats too. And the Shooters and so on.

Just woeful.
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
Good luck. It is abysmal - and your connections make it more abysmal than most. I'm not voting.
 
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on :
 
It appears likely that I will be appearing live on the Test Match Sofa online cricket show in teh lunch break today - that's 10pm AEST.

Yikes!

mr curly
 
Posted by ozowen (# 8935) on :
 
Abysmal is such a good description of the whole election.
Should I vote for the dude who thinks cruelty is a vote winner or the dude who thinks cruelty is a vote winner?
Do I elect a populist hack who has renounced leadership for a real time responsive suck up to focus group findings or the other sycophant who dittos that?
Do I want to bring in the bitter and twisted mongrel that has wanted to be in Government the past three years and would stop at nothing to obtain that goal... or... the bloody same?
It's like my choices are down to shit for brains or a faecal-cranial transplantee.
 
Posted by ozowen (# 8935) on :
 
Some might think that they could conclude that I am bitter and twisted over this election. They are wrong- that isn't the conclusion- it's just the start of how pissed off I am.
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
Commiserations Ozowen, that sounds even worse than our local body elections, and they are uninspiring to say the least.
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
Too late to edit post - but I do have new glasses ordered [Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
Wallabies (an Australian national team, remember?) versus All Blacks. An international match. A coveted trophy at stake. Televised? No. Sorry. Never heard of it. [Mad] Some flaming club ping pong game instead. [brick wall]
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
Whoops. Found it. My bad. [Hot and Hormonal] [Hot and Hormonal]
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
Happy rugby outcome but to be honest my bigger excitement was a 50 minute "prepping" conversation with Michael Leunig with whom I am in conversation for the Festival of Darwin tomorrow night. There are some people who simply make you feel a better human being for your encounter with them. Leunig is one.

[ 24. August 2013, 10:58: Message edited by: Zappa ]
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
Damn, wish I could fly to Darwin, but I've never been good at throwing myself at the ground and missing. (HHG to the Galaxy, for those who have yet to enjoy its insanity)
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Huia:
Damn, wish I could fly to Darwin, but I've never been good at throwing myself at the ground and missing. (HHG to the Galaxy, for those who have yet to enjoy its insanity)

Doesn't matter if you miss the ground here, there's plenty of nice waterways. Just ignore the reptiles. [Biased]

Funnily enough Leunig was saying he had the worst landing of his life coming in yesterday. Darwin has Australia's longest runway, and it was a dead calm 32C day with no thermals, so why the pilot took three goes to get a medium sized passenger plane down I have no idea. [Confused]
 
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on :
 
Leunig had the best take on the election choices this week in his Age cartoon. I don't seem to be able to link it without getting the whole darn paper. But it's on my fb page.

My sentiments exactly. Pass the brandy.
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
Wish this was all over. Boring rubbish with little relation to real life. So the Libs would buy up leaky boats to avoid their use for asylum seekers. Just who dreamt that one up? Would you buy a used boat from this man?

Am about to work on Senate vote so I can post back my postal vote.
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
Maybe I'll take up a career building leaky boats [Biased]

Went about 3 hrs drive up the main highway yesterday to see the seal pups playing under a waterfall in the bush. It's one of those sights that lifts the heart. I never realised they could leap so far out of the water.

Huia
 
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on :
 
Just to reveal what a nut case the GG is: The three books I grabbed to take with me when we rushed off to Waikato Hospital were Rediscovering the Apostle Paul; Samuel Pepys' diaries, Everyman Edition Vol 2, 1927 reprint; The Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam.

I did read some favourite verses of Omar Khayyam. Otherwise I did endless crosswords puzzles, which are very calming.

The Grandad is now in Wellington Public Hospital and quite chirpy considering.

GG
 
Posted by AdamPater (# 4431) on :
 
<ahem ... shuffle>

Are there any ship-mates within coo-ee of Penrith? I'm hoping to negotiate moving some items west-ward. If you're feeling helpful or gullible (either will do), would you PM me?

<cough ... obsequious exit>
 
Posted by Left at the Altar (# 5077) on :
 
You sound like Schappelle Corby. What are you planning? Exactly.
 
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by AdamPater:
<ahem ... shuffle>

Are there any ship-mates within coo-ee of Penrith? I'm hoping to negotiate moving some items west-ward. If you're feeling helpful or gullible (either will do), would you PM me?

<cough ... obsequious exit>

That's 50km from Chez Curly, unfortunately. But LAtA is right, I only ever back my own baggage when I travel that far. Not that you need a boogie board for anything other than self-defence out at Penrough.

mr curly
 
Posted by AdamPater (# 4431) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Left at the Altar:
You sound like Schappelle Corby. What are you planning? Exactly.

What might have been an amazing bargain if it weren't for the three million odd metres twixt.

No matter.
 
Posted by Tukai (# 12960) on :
 
I think the Leunig cartoon you were thinking of is #18 in this set of election cartoons ?
I also like Moir's at #24 (choose which way you want to go : to "Sameoldsameold" or to "Who knows where".

Faced with this non-choice, I'm with Moir's man in the bar in #20, who asks not "who are you voting for?" but "who are you voting against?".

But having being overseas for several years, I am no longer on the electoral roll, and so don't have to make this non-choice.

[Note: the link updates daily, so each ofthe above numbers will increase by 1 or 2 every day after today].
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
Tukai, I noticed this morning in an article somewhere the comment that many votes would be be protest votes.

My vote has already been posted. I spent a lot of time deciding just which worthy candidate I would place last. So many to choose from!
 
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on :
 
Dear Tukai, thank you. Yes, Leunig no 41 (today) is the one I liked - but I love all his other ones in that parade too. If only there WERE a Vote for the Bees party, or a Vote for the Indigenous Amphibians Party. Go the Crocs! or What a Buzz!


...sigh...
 
Posted by Tukai (# 12960) on :
 
I long for the return of the Party Party Party, who once stood for the ACT Legislative Assembly, back in the days when the deposit for being a candidate was only $50.
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
Anyone here with $25 million+ just hanging around? You could pretend you are the archbishop of Sydney
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Lothlorien:
Anyone here with $25 million+ just hanging around? You could pretend you are the archbishop of Sydney

Probably haunted by Archbishop Gough.....

[ 02. September 2013, 10:50: Message edited by: Gee D ]
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
I'm just checking my bank account now. There's room for eight children and three dogs, methinks.
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
And a good view as well from many rooms. Not sure where you could keep your pet croc though. Is that going to NZ with you? And when's the installation please? I've forgotten.

Madame and I are off to vote in a few minutes. Dog is coming too, but he gets no vote, alas. Ours make little difference here, except for the Senate.
 
Posted by Dennis the Menace (# 11833) on :
 
Voting done, egg & bacon roll consumed at the local school fete. I think the school will cop some flack from some of the older folk as voting is usually done the assembly hall which is ground level and for some unknown reason this time is on the first floor with the hall virtually empty. Several folk on walkers were unable to get up the stairs and were quite bewildered as what to do and the electoral staff oblivious to the situation.
 
Posted by DangerousDeacon (# 10582) on :
 
Now back again in the land of the living and on the Ship. Federal election is a shambles. Current seat is safe ALP, and the senate in NSW - almost every candidate seemed to be lunatic right wingers.

However, after almost three years in the beautiful Hunter Valley, time to move back to the tropics, though not to the Solomon Islands, but this time to Darwin. God has a strange sense of humour.
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Dennis the Menace:
Voting done, egg & bacon roll consumed at the local school fete. I think the school will cop some flack from some of the older folk as voting is usually done the assembly hall which is ground level and for some unknown reason this time is on the first floor with the hall virtually empty. Several folk on walkers were unable to get up the stairs and were quite bewildered as what to do and the electoral staff oblivious to the situation.

Under the probable new regime, they will be told to stop being silly, get some backbone, take the steps 2 at a time, and make sure no refugees cause a traffic jam on the way.
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Gee D:
And a good view as well from many rooms. Not sure where you could keep your pet croc though. Is that going to NZ with you? And when's the installation please? I've forgotten.

Madame and I are off to vote in a few minutes. Dog is coming too, but he gets no vote, alas. Ours make little difference here, except for the Senate.

No crocs officially allowed, but I'll see if I can get a couple through. Customs won't notice.

Installation 5.00 pm (NZ time) 13th October.
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by DangerousDeacon:
Now back again in the land of the living and on the Ship. Federal election is a shambles. Current seat is safe ALP, and the senate in NSW - almost every candidate seemed to be lunatic right wingers.

However, after almost three years in the beautiful Hunter Valley, time to move back to the tropics, though not to the Solomon Islands, but this time to Darwin. God has a strange sense of humour.

Sadly just too late to cross paths :-(
 
Posted by Evensong (# 14696) on :
 
My seat is so liberal, the ALP didn't even show up. I had to Google the preference list!

#outrageous

In more positive news, I almost voted for the Smoker's Rights party. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by bib (# 13074) on :
 
I was desperate for someone to do a Churchill and offer nothing but 'blood, toil, tears and sweat'. I would have voted for them immediately. We seem to have become such a handout society that demands everything right now based on greed, selfish insistence on rights and an unwillingness to sometimes do without for the sake of others.
 
Posted by Dennis the Menace (# 11833) on :
 
RIP Australia
 
Posted by Dennis the Menace (# 11833) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Gee D:
quote:
Originally posted by Dennis the Menace:
Voting done, egg & bacon roll consumed at the local school fete. I think the school will cop some flack from some of the older folk as voting is usually done the assembly hall which is ground level and for some unknown reason this time is on the first floor with the hall virtually empty. Several folk on walkers were unable to get up the stairs and were quite bewildered as what to do and the electoral staff oblivious to the situation.

Under the probable new regime, they will be told to stop being silly, get some backbone, take the steps 2 at a time, and make sure no refugees cause a traffic jam on the way.
[Smile] [Smile] [Smile]
 
Posted by DangerousDeacon (# 10582) on :
 
Also sorry to miss you Zappa - may God bless you in New Zealand (and may God bless the Wallabies next year as well)
 
Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on :
 
Deepest regrets from Canadians, as well, I am sure. We've had Tories now for over 7 years. They said we wouldn't recognise Canada when they were done.

They're right. All their cronies are at the trough and every day I feel ashamed to admit I'm Canadian.
 
Posted by Sioni Sais (# 5713) on :
 
Deepest sympathies from the Old Country too. We've had right wing, predominantly Tory goverments for nearly thirty-five years. Some spend more money than others but they all a) cut taxes, b) cut welfare and c) attack public services.
 
Posted by Laud-able (# 9896) on :
 
I assure Pete C and Sioni Sais that condolences are not required: the minority Labor (sic) government, headed by a whirligig of backstabbing leaders, has been swept out of office, having received the lowest primary Labor vote for a century.

I suggest that it would be sensible to wait and to judge the newly elected Prime Minister, Tony Abbott, upon what he does. It is meaningless to resort to labels such as ‘Tory’, which have all sorts of connotations that do not apply in the Australian scene, which is deeply conservative, but not remotely Tory.
 
Posted by Dark Knight (# 9415) on :
 
Thanks, Pete and Sioni.
Despite the previous poster's protest, the Libs are very much Tories. The most poorly named party ever. Perhaps they had wet, moderate leanings once, but such tendencies have been tamed by the party's dry Rights. Former leader Malcolm Fraser sounds more and more like a true 'liberal' compared to today's right wing nutters.
Indeed, let's judge him on what he does. If he meant half the crap he campaigned on - trashing the carbon tax (which he won't be able to do without a double dissolution election), interfering in the university sector, taking even more of asylum seekers' rights away, band-aiding national broadband so that it will need to be upgraded again by 2020 - then we're in for some good times.
If it was all just a tough guy gimmick to get elected, that won't speak volumes for his integrity, either.
So much to look forward to. [Waterworks]
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Dark Knight:
taking even more of asylum seekers' rights away

he'll be hard pushed to find any left to take - except the right to live. I presume he was going to resort to use the SAS to sort that. As Julian Burnside said, if wants to resort to piracy on the high seas ...

While continuing the Labor policy of spending $3 billion to make sure we look uglier than the Taliban.

This should be a nation in shame - at the antics of both its right wing governments. [Tear]

(oh and thanks, DD ... but no praying for the Wallabies: that's unfair advantage. Actually it's the Boks I fear most, by far.)
 
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by PeteC:
Deepest regrets from Canadians, as well, I am sure. We've had Tories now for over 7 years. They said we wouldn't recognise Canada when they were done.

They're right. All their cronies are at the trough and every day I feel ashamed to admit I'm Canadian.

How about the Alberta oil-sands? Stewart Weir, who seem to be involved, have been bought by a New Zealand crowd involved in oil and gas exploration.
I wrote some comments for the paper but I'll be lucky to see it in print – I score about one in five.

GG
 
Posted by the giant cheeseburger (# 10942) on :
 
Tony won't get to have it all his own way, at this point the ABC computer is predicting the Senate to be hung with 33 to Liberal/Nationals/LNP/CLP, 35 Labor/Greens (lost their majority) and 8 others. If that's the final result, the government will need to get all their senators to hold the line (not guaranteed with the CLP and the sole National from Vic) and get a minimum of six other Senators on side. In contrast, the Labor/Greens coalition would only need to get three to make a vote fail.

There is, of course, a long way to go with the Senate counting. I'm told by somebody who worked at a booth near me that they had 29% of formal (or possibly formal at least, they don't count all the way down to 73 at the booth on the night) Senate ballots were done below the line. On that basis alone it's going to take a while to confirm whether the ABC's predicted results will match the final result.

Still, I'm looking forward to two things coming out of this...
1. Six months of Abbott as PM should be enough to get Labor over the line in our state election to be held on 15 March.
2. Clive Palmer with parliamentary privilege should be fun [Two face]
 
Posted by shamwari (# 15556) on :
 
Will some kind Aussie please explain to me how 6 people (who all come across as idiots) garner less than a miniscule percentage of the vote yet still manage to hold the balance of power in the Senate?
 
Posted by Patdys (# 9397) on :
 
Sometimes even a straw can ruin a camel's day.
 
Posted by the giant cheeseburger (# 10942) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by shamwari:
Will some kind Aussie please explain to me how 6 people (who all come across as idiots) garner less than a miniscule percentage of the vote yet still manage to hold the balance of power in the Senate?

The six senators elected from each state are elected using a quota system, they must achieve one seventh of the vote for that state. The first couple will get elected just on first preferences, once nobody has a full quota of their own left is when it gets interesting. In each recount, the lowest-ranked candidate gets excluded and their votes distributed to the next most preferred candidate still remaining in the race, and repeated until all six seats are filled.

The reason that the minor parties are so well-represented is simply that the old parties (the Liberal/National coalition and the Labor/Greens coalition) didn't get a high enough proportion to fill all six between them in any state, and there wasn't a standout candidate who owned the protest vote like Nick Xenophon did in SA. Don't lose sight of the fact that both of the big coalitions lost Senate seats (reducing the Liberal/National coalition by one to 33 seats and the Labor/Greens coalition by six to 35) due to the strongest protest vote ever.

The reason the Australian Motoring Enthusiasts Party got in was that they did the best job of negotiating preference deals. If anything that actually shows that Ricky Muir has a fighting chance of being a very good senator when his term looks destined to be dominated by negotiations and compromises.

Bob Day from the SA branch of Family First will be a very good senator, the SA branch (the founding branch actually) is nowhere near as insane as the Victorian branch which went off piste as soon as it was launched. Policies the Bob Day has advocated for include better treatment and faster processing of asylum seekers (not a right wing view at all) and increasing foreign aid to 1.0% of GDP (not a right wing view at all).

Overall I think that this 'barnyard Senate' is a very good thing for democracy, compared to the alternative of either of the big coalitions having an absolute majority. History will eventually look back and condemn the 2005-08 Senate (the Liberal/National coalition had an absolute majority) and the 2011-14 Senate (absolute majority to the Labor/Greens coalition) for being weak and ineffective compared to one that can hold the government to account and force them to compromise.


* scrutiny is nowhere near finished for the ballots where voters allocated preferences manually below the line instead of marking one box above the line to use a group/party ticket. This looks like it could take a long time, in SA the proportion of people voting below the line was the highest ever.
 
Posted by ozowen (# 8935) on :
 
Australia- bringing to you a Government headed by an asshole whose hard work talking shit for years has finally paid off.
And a Senate populated by minor parties that have agreed to amalgamate and rename themselves The League of Ordinary Dickheads.

I'm not bitter, really I'm not.
[Help]
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
quote:
* scrutiny is nowhere near finished for the ballots where voters allocated preferences manually below the line instead of marking one box above the line to use a group/party ticket. This looks like it could take a long time, in SA the proportion of people voting below the line was the highest ever.

I was glad I had a postal vote as I also voted below the line in NSW. For 110 candidates. At least twenty of those each deserved to be placed last.

I spoke to a DIL today. She spent time deciding if my ex, her FIL should go above or below the Sex Party. She eventually put him above. I informed her that his party gave preferences to Pauline Hanson and she was sorry she had not placed him last. He won't be one of those few new senators from minority parties.
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
I think this thread is fine so far but if you get deeper into the intricacies of the Australian political landscape perhaps one of you would start a thread on the topic in Purgatory.

Thanks.

WW
AS Host
 
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on :
 
My favourite political observation was the one where the Senate was being compared to the bar scene in the first Star Wars movie. Yes, the Ozsie Upper house is now populated by some very strange drinking partners.

I'm looking forward to the first brawls.
[Smile]
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
Will you miss this sort of thing Zappa when you cross the pond again?

Paul Barry, Media Watch and the NT.
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
Nope! Only the heat.
 
Posted by Latchkey Kid (# 12444) on :
 
I found that being an OIC at a polling booth was enough to keep me away from the media and my mind off the actual politics.

We could do with less than 110 senate candidates and 44 parties. Have a concern for the poor counters finding enough tables to sort the ballot papers.
 
Posted by ozowen (# 8935) on :
 
How did Wednesday happen?
I'm sure it's only Tuesday.
I blame Abbott!
 
Posted by pererin (# 16956) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Latchkey Kid:
We could do with less than 110 senate candidates and 44 parties. Have a concern for the poor counters finding enough tables to sort the ballot papers.

The price of a functioning democracy...
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by pererin:
quote:
Originally posted by Latchkey Kid:
We could do with less than 110 senate candidates and 44 parties. Have a concern for the poor counters finding enough tables to sort the ballot papers.

The price of a functioning democracy...
But that's just NSW. It's time to move to a German system where to be successful in obtaining a seat via proportional voting (which is what the Senate vote is), a party or person must secure 5% of the first preference votes in the State, and that preferences and surplus quotas are not distributed to someone who either individually or whose party does not reach that threshold.
 
Posted by pererin (# 16956) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Gee D:
But that's just NSW. It's time to move to a German system where to be successful in obtaining a seat via proportional voting (which is what the Senate vote is), a party or person must secure 5% of the first preference votes in the State, and that preferences and surplus quotas are not distributed to someone who either individually or whose party does not reach that threshold.

That's just wishing for the big parties to get their way all the time. It's really a good thing to have Labor perpetually railing against upper houses and the Coalition taking their occasional embarrassments on the chin: it shows that it's working. You guys really really don't want European technocratic politics.
 
Posted by AdamPater (# 4431) on :
 
Personally I don't think there's anything wrong with the Senate being interesting. I certainly have absolutely no sympathy with the government effectively demanding a majority in both houses.

But then I thought a hung parliament wasn't a bad thing either. As I recall reading, the minority Labor government managed to pass as much or more legislation as the Howard (unrest be unto him) parliaments did.
 
Posted by the giant cheeseburger (# 10942) on :
 
I think it would be better to do away with group voting tickets completely to make below the line the only option. Then you could make preferences after six optional so it's easier to cast a formal vote, but at the risk of assenting to whatever everybody else chooses if your vote gets exhausted before the count is over.


A point value system could work as well, where the form of the ballot paper would be the same but instead of preference flows and quotas it would be tallied by giving the first preference candidate six points, the second five and so on down to the sixth candidate getting one point. The six candidates with the highest scores win the six seats, and if the margin between the sixth and seventh ranked candidates is small (less than 2% maybe) then the number of first preference votes each would be used as a tie breaker.

The beauty of either of these systems would be that they could be easily modified for a full senate election or a state legislative council election by increasing the number of preferences needing to be marked on the ballot paper.

quote:
Originally posted by pererin:
quote:
Originally posted by Gee D:
But that's just NSW. It's time to move to a German system where to be successful in obtaining a seat via proportional voting (which is what the Senate vote is), a party or person must secure 5% of the first preference votes in the State, and that preferences and surplus quotas are not distributed to someone who either individually or whose party does not reach that threshold.

That's just wishing for the big parties to get their way all the time. It's really a good thing to have Labor perpetually railing against upper houses and the Coalition taking their occasional embarrassments on the chin: it shows that it's working. You guys really really don't want European technocratic politics.
I agree, minimum first preference quotas only work in favour of electing parties when we should be electing people.

If the bigger parties don't win enough votes to get all the seats, they shouldn't be rewarded with extra seats they didn't earn just because the votes for the minor parties were split.
quote:
Originally posted by AdamPater:
But then I thought a hung parliament wasn't a bad thing either. As I recall reading, the minority Labor government managed to pass as much or more legislation as the Howard (unrest be unto him) parliaments did.

Of course. The cast majority of legislation under all governments is passed without partisan battles.

It wasn't that impressive, once they got it through the House the Labor government had an easy run in the Senate, while Howard had it the other way around for all but a couple of years.

[ 11. September 2013, 12:12: Message edited by: the giant cheeseburger ]
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
Having read through some of the recent posts several times to get what you are saying I refer you all to my previous post.

WW
AS Host.
 
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on :
 
Our worthy Host has a point. Watch out, or he'll exile you.

Me, I wonder how many Aussies with an IQ under, say, 120 have a clear understanding of the voting system. It sounds as if you need a Masters degree to grasp it.

GG
 
Posted by Vulpior (# 12744) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Galloping Granny:
Me, I wonder how many Aussies with an IQ under, say, 120 have a clear understanding of the voting system. It sounds as if you need a Masters degree to grasp it.

GG

I think lots of people don't.

I'm reasonably engaged and interested in politics/current affairs, and normally have the radio on in the car on at least one of my trips to/from work. But recently I've switched to listening to CDs for both journeys. I'm a bit over the saturation, especially considering that the tight contests will remain so until the deadline for postal vote receipts is past, so we just get the same speculation over and over.

There's far more important things going on, anyway. 63 fires across this state earlier in the week, and footy finals of course. We'll be heading to Sydney on Saturday for the Swans v Blues semi-final.
 
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on :
 
[Votive] for all affected by the fires. Hope you're all keeping safe.
 
Posted by Rowen (# 1194) on :
 
Rain, wind, seven degrees here in East Gippsland. Last week we were in sun, with 24. Now we shiver.
But that's Victoria for you.
 
Posted by Tukai (# 12960) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Welease Woderwick:
I think this thread is fine so far but if you get deeper into the intricacies of the Australian political landscape perhaps one of you would start a thread on the topic in Purgatory.

Thanks.

WW
AS Host

I have started such a thread in Purg.
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
Deleted the bit about Tukai's thread.

I forgot to say that the Transitional Cathedral (otherwise known as the cardboard Cathedral) was officially opened earlier this week.

Public reaction has not been overwhelming.

Huia

[ 12. September 2013, 07:32: Message edited by: Huia ]
 
Posted by the giant cheeseburger (# 10942) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Huia:
Deleted the bit about Tukai's thread.

I forgot to say that the Transitional Cathedral (otherwise known as the cardboard Cathedral) was officially opened earlier this week.

Public reaction has not been overwhelming.

Huia

Is that maybe a confirmation of the opinion I saw expressed earlier this year that the old cathedral was missed mostly because it was a nice-looking building rather than the function it performed?
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by piglet:
[Votive] for all affected by the fires. Hope you're all keeping safe.

Thank you Piglet. The concern is that it's barely the second week of spring, and there are quite a few fires. The latter half of winter was very dry in NSW, and that does not set the State up for a low-fire summer.
 
Posted by Latchkey Kid (# 12444) on :
 
A few grey clouds today

"Well, I wake up in the morning,
Fold my hands and pray for rain."
 
Posted by the giant cheeseburger (# 10942) on :
 
The forecast for Sydney is showing late showers today. I presume that would be the remnants of the two thick rain bands which moved from west to east dumping 20mm on Adelaide in about nine hours.
 
Posted by Latchkey Kid (# 12444) on :
 
We've just had a sprinkle. Less than 1 mm.
 
Posted by Rowen (# 1194) on :
 
Still rain and cold here today. Severe frosts this morning.
The wood stove heater is back to 24-7, to keep the house warm.
Some close friends are coming to spend the next few days here. People I have known more than four years.... From before moving down to Victoria.
We will drink, be happy, and congregate round the stove.

[ 13. September 2013, 01:48: Message edited by: Rowen ]
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Rowen:
Rain, wind, seven degrees here in East Gippsland. Last week we were in sun, with 24. Now we shiver.
But that's Victoria for you.

Should I mention the temperatures here? Sneaking up a little towards the mid to high 30s
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by the giant cheeseburger:
quote:
Originally posted by Huia:


I forgot to say that the Transitional Cathedral (otherwise known as the cardboard Cathedral) was officially opened earlier this week.

Public reaction has not been overwhelming.

Huia

Is that maybe a confirmation of the opinion I saw expressed earlier this year that the old cathedral was missed mostly because it was a nice-looking building rather than the function it performed?
In a sermon the acting Dean (lynda Patterson )likened the relationship between the people of Christchurch and the Cathedral to one relations might have with an elderly cousin, respected and loved, but not visited very often. (she expressed it more elegantly, but that was the gist). The on-going arguements have been really nasty, with some personal comments aimed at the Bishop that I think bordered on libellous. There was a similar reaction around 20 years ago when the Visitors' Centre was added to the Cathedral.

I think the attitude smacks of idolatry, but as I am no longer involed in The Anglican church I stay well clear of the debate. I said my good bye to the building (which I had loved working, worshipping and on one memorable occasion, sleeping overnight in) a few months back, with tears streaming down my face.

We have lost so much, but sometimes it's necessary to let go.

Sorry for the length of the post - I think I'm still mourning.

Huia
 
Posted by Barnabas Aus (# 15869) on :
 
On matters electoral, please pray for the Synod of the Diocese of Newcastle, as we attempt once again to elect a bishop.
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
No need to apologise Huia. It was a pretty little cathedral - smaller even than St Andrews in Sydney from memory - but had a comfortable and comforting feel to it.

Some rain at last here! Not before time, and if it keeps up will give a better base for summer.

Prayers indeed BanabasAus. Am I right in thinking there's now only one candidate?
 
Posted by Patdys (# 9397) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Huia:
quote:
Originally posted by the giant cheeseburger:
quote:
Originally posted by Huia:


I forgot to say that the Transitional Cathedral (otherwise known as the cardboard Cathedral) was officially opened earlier this week.

Public reaction has not been overwhelming.

Huia

Is that maybe a confirmation of the opinion I saw expressed earlier this year that the old cathedral was missed mostly because it was a nice-looking building rather than the function it performed?
In a sermon the acting Dean (lynda Patterson )likened the relationship between the people of Christchurch and the Cathedral to one relations might have with an elderly cousin, respected and loved, but not visited very often. (she expressed it more elegantly, but that was the gist). The on-going arguements have been really nasty, with some personal comments aimed at the Bishop that I think bordered on libellous. There was a similar reaction around 20 years ago when the Visitors' Centre was added to the Cathedral.

I think the attitude smacks of idolatry, but as I am no longer involed in The Anglican church I stay well clear of the debate. I said my good bye to the building (which I had loved working, worshipping and on one memorable occasion, sleeping overnight in) a few months back, with tears streaming down my face.

We have lost so much, but sometimes it's necessary to let go.

Sorry for the length of the post - I think I'm still mourning.

Huia

Ooh, ooh ooh, me miss.

My theology is relational.

We are created to be in relationship. In love.
With God, with each other and with all of creation.
When our relationship is damaged, we suffer. Whether it is human, animal, natural or manmade. And we may mourn our loss. It is a loss of our intactness, our person.
For me, I would definitely include Cathedrals as part of creation. In beauty as well as function.

So Huia, Although I can't share your distress, I can recognise it, acknowledge it and offer my prayers and support. Letting go can hurt. It's a bitch. [Votive]

[ 14. September 2013, 00:15: Message edited by: Patdys ]
 
Posted by DangerousDeacon (# 10582) on :
 
Well, in the other election held this week, the Diocese of Newcastle has elected +Greg Thompson as the next Bishop of Newcastle.
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Barnabas Aus:
On matters electoral, please pray for the Synod of the Diocese of Newcastle, as we attempt once again to elect a bishop.

Well done. Thieves!

Now in turn pray for Dio NT, which has/will have in quick succession lost its Dean and Vicar General, MDO, and now bishop ... Though the dean has been most magnificently replaced (he too will need a prayer or three ;-) ) ... Although there have been some constitutional changes of late that will make it harder, the place is ripe for a Sydney takeover.

Though Sydney's hubris has faded a little of late, and the new AB is slightly - very - much less egotistical-expansionist than his predecessor.

Nevertheless at least one Sydney priest has his purple collar and tie neatly ironed in readiness.
 
Posted by DangerousDeacon (# 10582) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Zappa:
quote:
Originally posted by Barnabas Aus:
On matters electoral, please pray for the Synod of the Diocese of Newcastle, as we attempt once again to elect a bishop.

Well done. Thieves!

Now in turn pray for Dio NT, which has/will have in quick succession lost its Dean and Vicar General, MDO, and now bishop ... Though the dean has been most magnificently replaced (he too will need a prayer or three ;-) ) ... Although there have been some constitutional changes of late that will make it harder, the place is ripe for a Sydney takeover.

Though Sydney's hubris has faded a little of late, and the new AB is slightly - very - much less egotistical-expansionist than his predecessor.

Nevertheless at least one Sydney priest has his purple collar and tie neatly ironed in readiness.

Yes, prayers certainly needed for the poor bastard heading towards Darwin. [Help] I think in the exchange between Newcastle and Northern Territory, Newcastle got the better end of the deal.

And really not sure about any priest who wants to wear purple collar with tie. Ghastly combination.
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
I've been following the thread for Hart's ordination for some time and have just read the MW reports. Checked the photos too. Wonderful.

Then I remembered the time of Mad Tea Woman's and Nunc's ordination in Brisbane. There are some new here who would not have seen it, but I remembered how much I was affected as those of us here read through an order of service at the same time across Australia. Obviously not an ordination but a blessing from the OzNZ thread. I think it was put together by FD and perhaps someone else. Clarence? I've forgotten.

I didn't save it at the time. Would anyone still know where it is on board perhaps, or have a copy?
 
Posted by Dennis the Menace (# 11833) on :
 
Christmas decorations are up in David Jones!!!!!!
 
Posted by the giant cheeseburger (# 10942) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Dennis the Menace:
Christmas decorations are up in David Jones!!!!!!

At least they aren't acknowledging Halloween or Thanksgiving between now and then. An early start to Christmas decorations is worth it for keeping those US abominations away.
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
My brother who has lived in the US for some years really likes Thanksgiving because the food is yummy - I think it's the pumpkin pie he likes. On the other hand he likes to spead his bread with vegemite and roll a banana in it, so I'm not sure I'd agree with his tastes.

Huia
 
Posted by Patdys (# 9397) on :
 
It's better than eating it.
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
Perhaps we should open a "Food to be served in Hell" thread.
 
Posted by Dennis the Menace (# 11833) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by the giant cheeseburger:
quote:
Originally posted by Dennis the Menace:
Christmas decorations are up in David Jones!!!!!!

At least they aren't acknowledging Halloween or Thanksgiving between now and then. An early start to Christmas decorations is worth it for keeping those US abominations away.
Give them time!!!
 
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Gee D:
Perhaps we should open a "Food to be served in Hell" thread.

I run a facebook page called Things I Don't want to See on a Sushi Roll.

It's a bit of fun

mr curly
 
Posted by SaharanPenguine (# 17824) on :
 
Hi Aussies et al. I'm in QLD - nice to see some locals around here [Smile] .
 
Posted by Rowen (# 1194) on :
 
Welcome ..... As an ex-Queenslander, it is great to be able to have you on board.
 
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on :
 
Hello SaharanPenguine, and welcome aboard! Do drop in to the Welcome thread at the top of the page, and have a look at the Ship's 10 Commandments for guidelines on how we operate.

Happy sailing!

Piglet, All Saints host
 
Posted by ozowen (# 8935) on :
 
From my morning reading today (Oremus.org). Somehow this alignment of prayer needs works.
"those we too often forget...
(Lord, hear our prayer.)
people who have lost hope...
victims of tragedy and disaster...
those who suffer mental anguish...
ecumenical councils and church agencies... "
 
Posted by ozowen (# 8935) on :
 
Welcome to the Desert Penguin Person!
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
Oracle lives another day. *sigh*
 
Posted by hugorune (# 17793) on :
 
Just wanted to poke my head in and thank everyone who posted messages of support. I'm still in the process of working out where I want to worship - the list of Welcoming Congregations was a nice starting point, the one thing they all have in common is that none of them are within 30 kilometres of where I live. That doesn't mean I rule any of them out.
There are plenty of churches closer, obviously, both Anglican and others, but I'm not sure how well I would really fit in taking into account my cultural predilection toward traditional Christian worship, and my theological views that are leaning toward the 'Affirming Catholicism' concept, as it is known in the UK.
There are two things I'm trying to work out - exactly where I should be worshiping, and what I should do/need to do before partaking in the Eucharist. So I'm trying to hook up with a priest for some more specific discussion, but there have been some scheduling complications (and my lack of initiative in chasing it up). I'll work it out.
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
Do any of you Aussies know the maiden name of Tony Abbott's wife? I heard she was a New Zealander, then someone told me tonight that she came from the same valley, (now a suburb of a larger city) where I grew up. As I also taught in the area I am curious as to whether I knew her.

Huia
 
Posted by the giant cheeseburger (# 10942) on :
 
She has had her very own Wikipedia page for a week now!
 
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by the giant cheeseburger:
She has had her very own Wikipedia page for a week now!

Must go to bed rather than edit that page.

mr curly
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
Well not even two degrees of separation - we taught at the same school for at least a year and my mum knew her mum through the Playcentre movement.

That's the second famous person I know, the other being Tana Umaga whom I taught at the same school where Margaret (as she was known then) was a teacher.

Huia - celebrity chaser -Yeah, right
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
Huia - hobnobber with the rich and famous [Biased]
 
Posted by ozowen (# 8935) on :
 
I read about a famous person once.....
 
Posted by the giant cheeseburger (# 10942) on :
 
Team NZ [Killing me]
 
Posted by Macrina (# 8807) on :
 
As a Brit Expat in NZ, Ben Ainslie has just broken my poor conflicted heart.
 
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on :
 
Macrina, now that you've been here a while on your big adventure, is NZ being kind to you? I hope so!

Arohanui

GG
 
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Macrina:
As a Brit Expat in NZ, Ben Ainslie has just broken my poor conflicted heart.

I can understand your dilemma, Macrina - I'm a Brit in Canada and I'm likely to have divided loyalties during the curling at the Winter Olympics: it's a game in which both my home country (GB, specifically Scotland) and my adopted one (Canada, specifically Newfoundland) have had success.

My solution? Cheer them both on unless they're playing each other, and then cheer your home country but not too loudly.

[Smile]
 
Posted by LeRoc (# 3216) on :
 
quote:
piglet: My solution? Cheer them both on unless they're playing each other, and then cheer your home country but not too loudly.
This is what I do when the Netherlands play football against Brazil.
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
I cheer for India when they play England at cricket whereas Himself cheers for England!
 
Posted by Barnabas Aus (# 15869) on :
 
To paraphrase Oscar Wilde:

To lose one bishop, Mr. Zappa, may be regarded as a misfortune. To lose both looks like carelessness.

However, we should pray earnestly for Bishop David as he takes up the challenge of San Joaquin.
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by the giant cheeseburger:
Team NZ [Killing me]

Yeah, they didn't do as well as the Aussie boat a few years back that beat everyone - to the bottom of the sea [Razz]

Actually I'm just glad it's over. Kim Dotcom has offered to finance the next attempt, so the poor NZ taxpayer shouldn't be ripped off again. (That is presuming Mr Dotcom hasn't been whisked off by then to face American justice).

Zappa, please note 'hobnobbing with' does not imply agreeing with (shudder). Except Tana was a lovely boy.
 
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on :
 
Bunnies lost in the League [Frown]

Go the Dockers!

Both comments on behalf of Middle who is currently on a school band tour in Vienna.

On the America's Cup, it's interesting that "choking" is talked about much more than "comebacks."

Big week here at publishing central. Two new ebooks out each with a 10,000 word long short story (one about drugs in sport, one about "an" election) and paperback of the new circket book in process.

mr curly

The return of the TopOfPage hog.

[ 27. September 2013, 19:28: Message edited by: Mr Curly ]
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Barnabas Aus:
To paraphrase Oscar Wilde:

To lose one bishop, Mr. Zappa, may be regarded as a misfortune. To lose both looks like carelessness.

However, we should pray earnestly for Bishop David as he takes up the challenge of San Joaquin.

Fortunately I've been in the loop about this from the time I was interviewed, so while it's sad I'm not disappointed. He's picking up a difficult challenge. I have no idea who the line up of candidates to succeed him will include. Not me though - I've reached the zenith ofmy career (and am very happy with it)!

The main media assesment of the Americas Cup that I've seen has been a comparison of the squillions of funding available to the two teams over the past three weeks.
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
Yup ... Doo NT has lurched towards Sydney today. [Tear]
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
That was Dio, not Doo, though the Doo is in the Dio
 
Posted by rexory (# 4708) on :
 
The relentless march of the conservatives [Frown]
 
Posted by Patdys (# 9397) on :
 
Well done Mr Curly
 
Posted by ozowen (# 8935) on :
 
Zappa, I thought by now you'd be Pope or at least the Arch-Big-Sheep of Candleberries!
 
Posted by Barnabas Aus (# 15869) on :
 
That's a worry, Zappa. What implications for indigenous and female ministry?
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Barnabas Aus:
That's a worry, Zappa. What implications for indigenous and female ministry?

About the same as it always has been, I guess.

Can a leopard change its spots?
 
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on :
 
Front page post-America's Cup item this morning:
Notorious turncoat Sir (!) Russell Coutts is taking about retuning to NZ, and (according to a columnist) building a super-mansion on the north of Auckland City. Not to mention being available to team NZ for the next cup challenge, funded in part by Kim Dotcom.
Hatchets are being rapidly buried.
Having totally lost interest in the Millionaires' Toys before the end of this year's battle, I suppose I'd be cheering the team on once again if it does come to pass.

GG
 
Posted by Mullygrub (# 9113) on :
 
*sheepishly wanders in, hat in hand, coz she's a slack community member*

Hi friends!

Thread for a November Melbourne meet over here!

Any Melbourne Shippies around??
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Barnabas Aus:
That's a worry, Zappa. What implications for indigenous and female ministry?

I think indigenous ministries will emphasise cerebral biblical teaching, while women's ministries will be tolerated in some forms but not strongly affirmed. Even Sydney may find an ordination of women loophole as no men are available in many indigenous Christian communities as a result of substance abuse [Tear]
 
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Zappa:
quote:
Originally posted by Barnabas Aus:
That's a worry, Zappa. What implications for indigenous and female ministry?

I think indigenous ministries will emphasise cerebral biblical teaching, while women's ministries will be tolerated in some forms but not strongly affirmed. Even Sydney may find an ordination of women loophole as no men are available in many indigenous Christian communities as a result of substance abuse [Tear]
I live in prayerful hope that moving out of the privileged confines of affluent areas of Sydney will open the eyes, minds and hearts of Sydney Anglicans.
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
It has worked that way for some. Some.

I hit the road south in a few hours. Overnighting at Tennant Creek tonight, then in the car on Night 2, probably somewhere near Coober Pedy. Adelaide for a night, then Melbourne for four.
 
Posted by mertide (# 4500) on :
 
Have a safe trip, Zappa!
 
Posted by Patdys (# 9397) on :
 
Zappa,
I suspect with your connections you are fine, but if you and yours need accommodation and or a Coopers, Let me know.
 
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on :
 
Safe travels, Zappa! [Smile]
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
Godspeed on your journey.

[Votive]
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
Travel safely Zappa.
 
Posted by Dark Knight (# 9415) on :
 
Ooooh, Zap - when and for how long are you in Melbourne? I am there soon, end of November.
 
Posted by DangerousDeacon (# 10582) on :
 
Have heard some things about NT Synod. Give me a call on your travels, Zappa.
 
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by DangerousDeacon:
Have heard some things about NT Synod. Give me a call on your travels, Zappa.

And welcome back when you reach our shores.

GG
 
Posted by Gracious rebel (# 3523) on :
 
Here I come!

Leaving London this evening, arriving in NZ Friday morning.

Look forward to see some of you soon.
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
Have a great time GR.
 
Posted by James the Confident (# 9678) on :
 
I'm driving to Perth in November. Perhaps a meet?
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
Hope GR brings her brolly = weather for her first couple of days here doesn't look good [Frown] .

Spring has been a lot wetter than winter was. I know that will help the garden, but I wish it would only reain at night,
 
Posted by Gracious rebel (# 3523) on :
 
Don't worry Huia, I have packed a brolly!

See you on Saturday! [Smile]
 
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on :
 
Oooh I think one of our members, a Priest who's a standup comedienne is going to be on the 7.30 Report.
 
Posted by Emendator Liturgia (# 17245) on :
 
I saw the report, Evangeline - don't know about his comedian skills but he made a lot of good sense in regards to same sex union/marriage - hope his motion at the upcoming Perth Synod makes it to the floor, then gets carried with a whopping big majority!
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
Thanks, Evangeline.

I missed seeing him when he was last over here and saw your post just after 8:00 last night. Have caught up with a replay this morning.
 
Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on :
 
I have lots of respect for that young fella. And he knows an awful lot of good beer joints. [Biased]
 
Posted by rexory (# 4708) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Evangeline:
Oooh I think one of our members, a Priest who's a standup comedienne is going to be on the 7.30 Report.

Not at all sure our friend would appreciate being called a "comedienne"! He probably prefers "comedian" [Smile]
 
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on :
 
Yes Rexory [Hot and Hormonal] I got so excited my fingers totally ran away with me. Gender and spelling issues [Disappointed]
 
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on :
 
A brave piratical foray on the part of our shippie. Let's hope he doesn't get keel-hauled by the powers that be.

Though if he does, I suspect that it will provide plenty of material for his next stand-up show, so I guess it's all good.
 
Posted by Evensong (# 14696) on :
 
Vote passed again in house of laity and clergy. More here from ABC.

I was disappointed to see the comments section was closed......why do they do that?

Our fellow shippie spoke very well.

I was there....but I still don't understand the dealio with the Arch. Legal issues? Not wanting to go it alone issues? I should probably read his charge....I think it was in there. [Hot and Hormonal]
 
Posted by rexory (# 4708) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Evensong:

I was there....but I still don't understand the dealio with the Arch. Legal issues? Not wanting to go it alone issues? I should probably read his charge....I think it was in there. [Hot and Hormonal]

Think major diocese in the "far east".
 
Posted by Evensong (# 14696) on :
 
Heard that through the grapevine. But I can't really see our Arch doing the politically correct thing for the far east diocese if he felt strongly enough about it.....can you?

More interesting developments happened today so I started a thread in dead horses if anyone is interested.
 
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on :
 
Prayers please!!

The Grandad's now had nine weeks in three hospitals – Waikato repatriated him to Wellington, where they tried rehabilitation at Kenepuru but eventually after lots of tests, xrays, and scans they decided he'd never be right unless they did another operation.
Surgery is this afternoon, and he is really scared. He asked if the Shippies would pray for him and I told him I was surer they would – as well as all the folk in our local church and at Whitianga/ Matarangi.

GG
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
[Votive] Prayers ascending for you and the Grandad.

I hope the operation speeds his rehabilitation.

Huia

[ 08. October 2013, 21:01: Message edited by: Huia ]
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
Prayers for you both GG, and for the surgeons as well that they carry out their tasks with skill and compassion.

And for you, too Huia, with everything you're facing at the moment.
 
Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on :
 
May God heal Granddad, and may He also help you both find strength.

[Votive]
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
Prayers from me too, GG, for you both and for medical staff.
 
Posted by Clarence (# 9491) on :
 
[Votive] GG and Granddad

Oz is the less. As of today we are short a Zappa, kuruman and kuruzapplets. But NZ is the greater for it.

FD and I never did manage the mega-drive to Darwin and Google maps tells us we can't drive to NZ because of a discontinous road network.

Methinks we'll be scouring websites for cheap flights to NZ before long. Someone needs to go check on them. And all those nearby wineries.
 
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on :
 
[Votive] Ascending GG.
 
Posted by Emendator Liturgia (# 17245) on :
 
Prayers ascending with the morning sun! [Votive]

Prayers for your GD, for yourself, for your family, and for the surgeons and medical staff! [Votive] [Votive] [Votive] [Votive]
 
Posted by Rowen (# 1194) on :
 
Prayers ascending...


Long service leave December thru January. Yay. Yay. Yay.
I will not be dreaming of a white Christmas, but experiencing one in the US, with family there.
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
GG and all [Votive]
Thx Clarence ... two hours from the sides of the middle, now
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Rowen:
Prayers ascending...


Long service leave December thru January. Yay. Yay. Yay.
I will not be dreaming of a white Christmas, but experiencing one in the US, with family there.

Just as well you've had some practice in cold weather where you are.
 
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on :
 
[Votive] for GG and Galloping Grandad.
quote:
Originally posted by Clarence:
... Google maps tells us we can't drive to NZ because of a discontinous road network ...

[Killing me] [Killing me]
quote:
... Someone needs to go check on ... all those nearby wineries.
Ooh, do you need any help? I love NZ Sauvignon Blanc ... [Big Grin]

**drool**
 
Posted by Arabella Purity Winterbottom (# 3434) on :
 
For the Grandad [Votive] and the Granny [Votive]
 
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on :
 
The surgery went well, and the Grandad's bounced back and is in good spirits – with an epidural, recovery is much quicker than after a general anaesthetic. He didn't want to listen to the surgeons talking so they gave him earphones and classical music which turned out to include some favourites.

Many thanks for prayerful support – and for Michael, one of the doctors and a great Irish communicator, who talked him out of his fears beforehand.

GG
 
Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on :
 
[Yipee] Give him a hug from me. [Votive] for continuing recovery.
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Galloping Granny:
The surgery went well, and the Grandad's bounced back and is in good spirits – with an epidural, recovery is much quicker than after a general anaesthetic. He didn't want to listen to the surgeons talking so they gave him earphones and classical music which turned out to include some favourites.

Many thanks for prayerful support – and for Michael, one of the doctors and a great Irish communicator, who talked him out of his fears beforehand.

GG

What good news to read. Prayers continuing.
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
That is good news indeed.
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
[Yipee] Good news about the Grandad.

Tomorrow would have been my Dad's birthday. It is also the day that my eldest brother goes to look at his future accommodation, which is a self-contained flat in the Village where Dad was in care. He is fairly positive about the move, so I am hoping nothing comes up that changes that. My sis-in-law who is taking him (and who always tends to think the worst will happen)is worrying that he will refuse at the last minute.

I hope it all goes smoothly as, selfishly, I don't have any time or energy for family dramas.

If it all turns to custard I'm going to apply to be adopted into another family [Help] (free to good home, have all inoculations and I don't bite).

Huia
 
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Huia:
[Yipee] Good news about the Grandad.

Tomorrow would have been my Dad's birthday. It is also the day that my eldest brother goes to look at his future accommodation, which is a self-contained flat in the Village where Dad was in care. He is fairly positive about the move, so I am hoping nothing comes up that changes that. My sis-in-law who is taking him (and who always tends to think the worst will happen)is worrying that he will refuse at the last minute.

I hope it all goes smoothly as, selfishly, I don't have any time or energy for family dramas.

If it all turns to custard I'm going to apply to be adopted into another family [Help] (free to good home, have all inoculations and I don't bite).

Huia

Prayers – that all goes well and that you know peace/shalom.

[Votive] [Votive]

GG
 
Posted by Arabella Purity Winterbottom (# 3434) on :
 
Great news GG.

We'll adopt you Huia. Although given the similar sorts of struggles we're having with Rosie's folks, you might think we're not a very good bargain.
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
Swim over to us Huia - close to station, and good libraries only a few stops away. Lots of peace and quiet, and a friendly Dog to lie at your feet.
 
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on :
 
Glad to hear all went well with Galloping Grandad.

Also [Votive] for you Huia - hope everything sorts itself out.
 
Posted by Clarence (# 9491) on :
 
Great news GG [Votive] for continuing recovery.
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
(Sigh) I'm going to Wellington again on Tuesday. Big brother is feeling pressured as he has to make a decision by Monday, little brother is pressured as he's the executor of the will that says the house has to be sold - and he's the one doing maintenance until it is. If there's anything in reincarnation I'm coming back as an only child and an orphan.

Obviously my mind is is weird though. I was reading a book called Dust to Dust (a violent police procedural) and thought of the next line of that quote in sure and certain hope of the resurrection then my mind flitted to a quote from Zappa, (posted some years in Hell) Shit happens, so does resurrection.

Theologically I'm not even sure what that means, but I was reminded of Julian of Norwich's All shall be well and all shall be well and all manner of things shall be well and I felt more hopeful and somewhat comforted.

GG I hope that Grandad continues to make a good recovery.

Huia
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
[Yipee] Double-posting somewhat later in the day. Oldest brother has decided to move into the unit he looked at [Yipee] but not for a coupe of weeks so I don't have to go to Wellington so soon.

The Wesley Action Team in Wellington and the Hutt Valley are brilliant - see TICT Heaven [Overused]

Huia -slightly more sane this evening.

[ 11. October 2013, 05:57: Message edited by: Huia ]
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
All good news, Huia, and good to hear.
 
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on :
 
Glad to hear things are working out, Huia - long may that continue!

On the subject of reincarnation, I reckon for a stress-free eternity I'll come back as a cat. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
That's good news Huia, and prayers for the GGD's recuperation.
 
Posted by Emendator Liturgia (# 17245) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by piglet:

On the subject of reincarnation, I reckon for a stress-free eternity I'll come back as a cat. [Big Grin]

If I believed in reincarnation - I'd certainly 2nd that option - believe out cat will live for eternity given its stress-free lifestyle. The only stress it has is whether its afternoon (i.e. read all-day) nap will be disturbed, or if dinner will be late!
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
This fire at the Aquatic Centre at Homebush Olympic site is almost incredible to read about. 10-15 minutes drive away, we often parked there when we visited the centre year round. A grass fire, but I guess burning cars ignited other cars.

Much better now the southerly has arrived here. The temperature dropped about ten degrees in as many minutes.
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
And those further north, who lost houses, farm equipment and livestock in blazes there.
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Gee D:
And those further north, who lost houses, farm equipment and livestock in blazes there.

Yes I was surprised to see Port Stephens mentioned. Don't know why the surprise but I guess it's usually similar areas south of Sydney which are ravaged by fire.

My niece and her partner live at Maroota in a place which was once her parents'. It has in the past been saved by water bombs from Elvis the helicopter. They now also have a property right on the Hawkesbury River upstream from Webbs Creek. Short of driving the much longer way round from Windsor last night, they had no way of getting there to check on it because road was blocked with fire at Webbs Creek and ferry wasn't working.

A bad start to the season, helped only by the fact that there aren't yet several days of extreme weather at a time.
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
Off up north in a few hours time to settle my oldest brother in his new flat. Lord grant me patience - but hurry.

Probably no internet access, so y'all play nicely until L get back [Biased]

Huia

.
 
Posted by ozowen (# 8935) on :
 
[Votive] for GG.
 
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on :
 
Looks & feels apocalyptic in Sydney this afternoon. Very high winds black, smoke filled skies but a weird yellow light cast over everything. Praying for rain to help those around Sydney-to the north and west who fact threats to life and property. Just awful eeriness and yet I"m a very long way from any fires, ash is falling in CBD!
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
Madame says that it's now a bit lighter at home, but that until a half hour or so ago it was dark, with a lot of smoke around. She thinks there must have been a fire in the Lane Cove River Park, which is now under control. Not as good though apparently around the Southern Highlands around Lithgow/Blue Mountains.
 
Posted by Rowen (# 1194) on :
 
Watching TV news.
Wet outside. 9.
Central heating on.

Praying for NSW...
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
I could not see city skyline because of the smoke blowing in from NW.

Certainly a fire down on the river, Gee D. People I think you know moved out as they were housesitting dogs down there.

Premier says that if there is no loss of life, then to thank God for a miracle. Already dozens are lost and possibly hundreds of homes according to RFS.

The wind is still strong but from a different direction, creating new problems.

Convoys of fire engines are heading west along Parramatta ROad. My guess is relief for those who have been on duty all day.
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
Still lots of smoke around when I got off the train - and the view west from the Bridge was horrible. Huge plumes of reddish smoke above heavy haze. It was hard to see Balmain. The news is not good at all - and still only mid-spring!
 
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on :
 
[Votive]
For all those affected by the fires.

GG
 
Posted by Tree Bee (# 4033) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Galloping Granny:
[Votive]
For all those affected by the fires.

GG

Me too. [Votive]
 
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on :
 
It is so weird to be on the weather cusp with Victoria shivering on one side of us and NSW melting on the other. Coldest October morning on record a day or two back but today is quite balmy. I have decided to pull up the drawbridge and have a holiday at home, with much sleeping and reading on the agenda.

Could have been interstate today, but with all the fire warnings about, have decided all far away church meetings and family reunions will be ignored in favour of a serious respite week at Chez Banner.

TP has been keeping a pedometer tally of his daily activity and informed me this morning that according to the readouts he is "hyper-active". So in order to get the desired respite week, I may have to "quieten him down". Any suggestions?
 
Posted by James the Confident (# 9678) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Banner Lady:
It is so weird to be on the weather cusp with Victoria shivering on one side of us and NSW melting on the other. Coldest October morning on record a day or two back but today is quite balmy. I have decided to pull up the drawbridge and have a holiday at home, with much sleeping and reading on the agenda.

Could have been interstate today, but with all the fire warnings about, have decided all far away church meetings and family reunions will be ignored in favour of a serious respite week at Chez Banner.

TP has been keeping a pedometer tally of his daily activity and informed me this morning that according to the readouts he is "hyper-active". So in order to get the desired respite week, I may have to "quieten him down". Any suggestions?

[Two face]
 
Posted by Rowen (# 1194) on :
 
21 here in Victoria. Wow. Warmth. Two whole days of it. The shock.
Thn back to normal cold wet...
And poor NSW! Prayers....
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Banner Lady:
...TP has been keeping a pedometer tally of his daily activity and informed me this morning that according to the readouts he is "hyper-active". So in order to get the desired respite week, I may have to "quieten him down". Any suggestions?

GIN.
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
Send him out to visit the grandchildren somewhere.
 
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on :
 
I have considered those options. Unfortunately alcohol might prove fatal, and he is the one who wears the grandchildren out! I really don't want to kill him - just get him to rest a bit more. If he "accidentally" breaks a limb or becomes ill, he would certainly be slowed down - but it wouldn't be much of a holiday for me, as I will then have to nurse him.

Next?
 
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on :
 
Up on Gold Coast for a conference for work. Wish it was damp as it is here back home. Yikes, the fires are scary.

Biggest and Middle both had good games of cricket on the weekend. Won't bore you with detail, but both hit a 6. Sunday cricket is a pain, but gives me an excuse to avoid church which seems a little tedious at the mo.

Exciting Easter plans brewing, will share more shortly.

mr curly
 
Posted by David (# 3) on :
 
Bushfires in October suck. The closest they got to our place is about 7km, the wind yesterday was non-existent which made everything a lot easier. Everyone knows many families who have their lost their possessions - about 200 houses lost along the Winmalee ridge. They seem to cop it fairly often up there, it's the downside of living in a national park that we're all aware of but mostly still choose to live with the risk.

Today is going to be 38C at the foot of the mountains, fortunately at the moment it's all very still. A little bit of wind could be very nasty - a north-westerly blows the fire to my house, other people's mileage naturally varies.

The city at the moment is an asthmatic's nightmare - shrouded in dense smoke, not a breath of air. Nasty.

On the plus side, Barry Collier won his seat back on Saturday at a by-election, with the largest swing every recorded in the state (26.2%). I have it on good authority that a large part of the swing was down to the ALP getting firies to hand out HTV cards, in protest at the state government reducing funding for the RFS. An auspicious weekend to hold the election.
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
Lots of smoke here in inner west. I have a good view of city skyline and buildings from my balcony. I can't see even the vaguest hint of a building today.

Son and his wife moved in with her mother a few weeks ago at Emu Heights after their plans to move to Strasbourg fell through with massive back problems for him.

A grass fire went through far too close for comfort a few days ago in the heat. They have been told that depending on wind and heat, anything could happen. DIL and her mother spent yesterday under his instructions installing many new sprinklers both front and back of house. He couldn't help, can't sit more than ten minutes at a time and is in constant pain.

I've lived through fires. Mum and dad came from Lithgow and lived at Lawson. Also fought them on holiday place at Wollombi. The waiting and the uncertainty is terrible.

Hope your place is OK and everyone else as well.

[ 20. October 2013, 23:26: Message edited by: Lothlorien ]
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
I'm back.

The only news items I've been aware of have been the fires. I've sent up some rather incoherent prayers.

Stay safe.
 
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Huia:
I'm back.

The only news items I've been aware of have been the fires. I've sent up some rather incoherent prayers.

Stay safe.

Brother happy?

GG
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
Yes, he has a self-contained unit and we spent the best part of $5,000 buying a fridge, bed, lazyboy, bookcase, table and chairs. I never knew that spending other people's money could be so exhausting.

Fortunately (as it turned out) the stove hadn't been put in by Sunday so he had his first meal in the shared dining room. He had been a bit nervous about this, but was welcomed by people who had known Dad and seen him visiting. Doubtless there may be some blips as he faces the challenge of living in a new place, but he had been socially isolated at home and now has people around him, but can withdraw into his unit if he needs to.

I am very grateful that the Methodists have continued their involvement in the care of the elderly and vulnerable as the place seems to operate more as an extended family than some of the modern, money making facilities available and I know he will be cared for. It's such a relief.

Huia
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
That is very good and comforting news Huia and it sounds as if the right decisions have been made.
 
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on :
 
Glad to hear things went according to plan, Huia - I hope your brother settles in well and is happy in his new surroundings.

[Smile]
 
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on :
 
Strange things you see. Man well into his 70s in cardiologist waiting room reading a copy of Cosmo.

Routine check up for me (hopefully!)

mr curly.
 
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on :
 
After 12 weeks in hospital the Grandad is overjoyed to be home – we'll I'm pretty glad to have him here.
He comes with 14 medications and dietary supplements and a schedule for when each is to be administered. Non-fibre dinners from Meals on Wheels. District nurses and other specialist people to call.
So now it's up to us, with other support from friends and neighbours.
Thanks to our health system, it cost us almost nothing (part charge of $84 for the ambulances up north, and one or two of the supplements are not on the free list). What's so bad about state-funded health care?????
Almost sad to farewell some of the hospital staff. Even the woman on duty in the carpark gave me a free pass and a goodbye hug when I came to get my 50% discount for the last time.

GG
 
Posted by Arabella Purity Winterbottom (# 3434) on :
 
Glad to hear it GG. What a relief.
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
That's really good new GG, but not yet time to drop you from our list by the sound of it.
 
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on :
 
Cardiologist doesn't want to see me for 12 months. This is good news!

mr curly
 
Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Arabella Purity Winterbottom:
Glad to hear it GG. What a relief.

What joyful news! Love and prayers to you both!
 
Posted by Sioni Sais (# 5713) on :
 
Good news GG & Mr Curly.

The news we're getting in the UK about the fires is that a fire-fighting pilot has died and that one of the fires was started on a military live-firing range. Is the latter being reported much over there, or is it getting reported here for "novelty value"?

[Votive] That pilot's family and friends, all those fighting the fires and those all too close too them.

[ 24. October 2013, 12:18: Message edited by: Sioni Sais ]
 
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on :
 
The military causing one of the fires is being well-reported, not a lot of reaction so far.

Terribly, terribly sad that the pilot of one of the fire-fighting planes died, most of those fighting the fires are volunteers, truly heroic and awesome effort [Votive] for them all.
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
[Yipee] GG and that Grandad [Yipee] - and I agree about the health system

Mr C - [Yipee]

Evangeline - I totally agree regard the courage of the firefighters. My youngest brother was involved in voluntary firefighting for a while -scary stuff

Huia

[ 24. October 2013, 19:00: Message edited by: Huia ]
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Evangeline:
The military causing one of the fires is being well-reported, not a lot of reaction so far.

Terribly, terribly sad that the pilot of one of the fire-fighting planes died, most of those fighting the fires are volunteers, truly heroic and awesome effort [Votive] for them all.

Sad news indeed. I can only begin to imagine the difficulties involved in water bombing, particularly when the recent gales are also add to the problems.

I've done a very small amount of fire fighting on the property we had near Cessnock. Absoulutely nothing like what has been needed and accomplished this week.

RFS and SES service are both in my family. My part was to look after the small grandchildren to allw the volunteer time to take part in what was being needed. Major injury wrote off the RFS work and daughter-in-law resigned from SES as her employer was very unwilling to allow her time.

However, the baton has been picked up this week. One son, a state government employee at a very senior level, found himself catapulted from his department to a very major behind the scenes admin and installation role which is absolutely vital to fire fighting and evacuation service. It uses both his IT and managerial experience and knowledge and his people handling ability.

His comment? It just had to be done.

[ 24. October 2013, 21:52: Message edited by: Lothlorien ]
 
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Galloping Granny:
... What's so bad about state-funded health care????? ...

Absolutely nothing.

As a Brit, I was used to having mostly excellent healthcare which was free apart from a standard prescription charge and charges for dental and eyecare. Although the system here in Canada is much better than in some places*, I was still horrified at how little you get if you haven't got insurance (and how much they'll try and charge you if they think you haven't).

Great news about Galloping Grandad though - may his recovery be swift and complete!

[Votive]

* Our southerly neighbour springs to mind. [Devil]
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
This youtube video was sent to me by place where I get cameras, lenses etc. The bit right near the end is the old blast furnaces, not really a casualty in these fires. Choral accompaniment.

This is from the fire which originated from explosives used by Defence department.

Photos taken by drone camera of fires at Lithgow.

The bridges are part of the ZigZag railway, the original line to Lithgow from the top of mountains. The historic railway, now a tourist attraction was pretty well wiped out and stock was destroyed days before re-opening after a refurbishment.
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
Lothlorien, that's a very moving video.
 
Posted by Rowen (# 1194) on :
 
Just had a lovely dinner in Melbourne, with Bronwyn and her lovely daughter.
As ever, delightful night!
I spoke at a Frontier Setvices Lunch today... Told how I minister and how I enjoy it so.
Also popped into HQ of the state police, to get formal chaplaincy ID...
Home tomorrow.
I won't miss the traffic, the noise, the polluted air.
But I have had a great two days.
 
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on :
 
TP, being English, has a fondness for hearty soups. He has discovered, since his retirement, he has a talent for making them. Needless to say I have happily abandoned the kitchen and taken up applauding from the sidelines.

Then: disaster. The soup tureen broke. What does an Englishman do without a soup tureen? It is not to be endured, so off we hie to the shops to find one. I am still smiling at the exchanges across the counters of half a dozen kitchenalia type places.

"Tureen" is obviously not a word in the vocabulary of most people under the age of 35. Even elaborate explanations were met with looks of disbelief. A couple of them pretended to know, but most certainly didn't; and hats off to the young man from the sub-continent who declared we should come back tomorrow because a shipment was due in and they would 'most probably have those then'.

We found expensive ugly ones in antique shops. But as TP is not really a delicate cook we wanted something we wouldn't grieve over if another mishap occurred. Finally we found one in a French provincial type shop - although we had to tell the girl serving the name of the 'pot thingy' on the shelf behind her.

But don't take my word for it. Go out and find anyone under 40 and ask them if they know what a "tureen" is. I'll be very interested in the result!

Whew.
Anyway, TP is happy, and we are having curried beef soup for dinner. It is also the first time I have ever heard him express any gratitude to the French. It has been a day of miracles indeed.

[Smile]

[ 30. October 2013, 05:09: Message edited by: Banner Lady ]
 
Posted by Tukai (# 12960) on :
 
BL:
I'm well past the age of 35, and I wouldn't know what a soup tureen is/ was either. Is it just the big pot in which soup is cooked?
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
Served rather than cooked, usually.
 
Posted by rexory (# 4708) on :
 
In one hour, my Commissioning as Rector in my new parish takes place. Prayers appreciated!
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
[Votive]

Will find a bigger map to put things in context.
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by rexory:
In one hour, my Commissioning as Rector in my new parish takes place. Prayers appreciated!

[Votive] rexory
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
Prayers indeed, Rexory.
 
Posted by rexory (# 4708) on :
 
Thanks, folks. It's done! No names, no packdrill - but the parish sits immediately east and south-east of a certain centre for entertainment and gambling.
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
Rexory, I hope work in your new parish goes well.

Huia
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by rexory:
Thanks, folks. It's done! No names, no packdrill - but the parish sits immediately east and south-east of a certain centre for entertainment and gambling.

I found it without the hints which mean nothing to me anyway. A bit of a dig last night.

[Votive] for future there.
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
Any photos?
 
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on :
 
I'm past 35 but my sister is only about 1 yr past that and we know what soup tureens are. My mother's dinner service has 1 large and 8 individual tureens.

Here's a picture of a soup tureen can't find any individual ones, they must have really gone out of style-they are good though, soup stays hotter than in a bowl.

Pottery Barn tureen
 
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on :
 
All the best in your new parish, Rexory!

Banner Lady - keep enjoying the soup!
 
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on :
 
For us, the tureen is not so much to serve from on the night the soup is created, but to hold the leftovers. It keeps in the fridge much better in the lidded crockery pot, steeps well, and is even tastier to eat the next day. A tureen (like the one pictured above) doesn't take up much shelf space for the volume it can contain; and the ladle makes it easy to help oneself.

A most under-rated bit of kit. Or maybe I'm just being sucked into TP's 18th century world? [Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by Clarence (# 9491) on :
 
BL, it is good to know such things still exist. There are other oddities like epergnes and odd types of knives and spoons that are definitely not available!
 
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on :
 
Not long after we married, D. took it into his head that sugar-cubes would be fun and we had fun scouring the antique-shops of Belfast for a set of sugar-tongs.

Although neither of us takes sugar in tea or coffee any more, I think we've still got them somewhere ...
 
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on :
 
After ten days at home the Grandad is happy to be back with his postcard collection (he's now catalogued 17,000 Egyptian cards, though he doesn't own that many) and looks healthy thanks to the nourishment from all those pills and supplements. But so far the 1.9 metres of gut isn't showing signs of taking over the job of digesting all that good no-fibre food I give him (the meals on wheels were not satisfactory).
I think we'll need prayer support for quite a while yet. And that's for me too: if anything happened to my health, who would look after him?
My con-evo friend had a poster on her fb wall: 'God won't give you more than you can handle'. As a committed Progressive I'd have to re-phrase that but it's a reminder of the presence of the mystery that we call God.
No, I'm not down-hearted, in fact happy on one level, keeping things going and finishing a 16-page parish quarterly newsletter on time today. (No I don't write it: I drag/wring contributions out of everyone who can write coherent reports – by next Wednesday it should be on line here )

GG
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
Prayers for you both GG.
 
Posted by luvanddaisies (# 5761) on :
 
Hello, I don't usually post here, but I'm about to fly out to join a ship in New Zealand, so I thought I'd wave. I fly from London tomorrow (Monday) evening and land in Wellington on the 6th at 1450, then trundle myself (and all my stuff, I don't come home until February, and the voyage that starts in December across the Southern Ocean and around Cape Horn is not going to be warm and summery) to my Ship which is apparently going to be somewhere called Queens Wharf. My friend over in NZ thinks I can catch an orange bus into the city to the train station, and then it's not far in a cab (big bag[s] walking ain't gonna happen) from there, does that ring a bell with anyone?

I found out I was flying out now (as opposed to when I was going to be flying out, which was in December) on, er, Friday.
It's been a fairly busy weekend...
[Eek!] [Snore] [Yipee] [Help]

So anyway, I will join the ship, Lord Nelson, in Wellington, we sail to Nelson, then to Auckland, I have to take a bit of time off in Auckland (28th November - 6th December) so I'm not on the ship solidly all the way until February, and then I'll be back on board while we have some maintenance time before the long voyage starts on December the 15th, and we leave across the Southern Ocean, off around Cape Horn, ending up in Ushuaia in Argentina. Or, perhaps more clearly, here's the website summary of the voyages .

Quite exciting, but with the frenzy of packing and organising I'm a big bug-eyed with the whole thing at the moment.

Anyway. I might be able to find bits of free wifi at times, and if I do, I might be able to check this thread, so if you happen to be around, PM me. I have no money at all, so I can't afford to go out for dinner or to do anything exciting, but I might be able to do coffee or something, or maybe to invite you to come and see me on board if we're alongside and it fits in to what the ship's doing.


I was wondering if anyone's got ideas for free (or very cheap) things to do in Auckland (travel to anywhere else is difficult, because I can't afford to be spending, well, anything really [Frown] )

eep - this post's got really long somehow, probably because I'm rambling and getting up to poke the washing machine or to add things to lists all the time. I shall stop making your nice thread look all untidy now. Sorry.
 
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on :
 
Luv'an'daisies – tall ships: wow!!!
If I weren't looking after the Grandad 24/7 (see post above) I'd love to meet your plane and take you straight to Queen's Wharf with maybe a coffee on the way. Pity about that. The orange bus (Valley Flier) to the station would be right, though it would be worth checking out the cost of a shuttle from the airport direct to the ship: cheaper than taxi but takes several passengers and goes more roundabout.
All the best for your voyaging, and prayers for travelling maircies, as my Scots minister offered for me.

GG
 
Posted by Dennis the Menace (# 11833) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by luvanddaisies:
Hello, I don't usually post here, but I'm about to fly out to join a ship in New Zealand, so I thought I'd wave. I fly from London tomorrow (Monday) evening and land in Wellington on the 6th at 1450, then trundle myself (and all my stuff, I don't come home until February, and the voyage that starts in December across the Southern Ocean and around Cape Horn is not going to be warm and summery) to my Ship which is apparently going to be somewhere called Queens Wharf. My friend over in NZ thinks I can catch an orange bus into the city to the train station, and then it's not far in a cab (big bag[s] walking ain't gonna happen) from there, does that ring a bell with anyone?

I found out I was flying out now (as opposed to when I was going to be flying out, which was in December) on, er, Friday.
It's been a fairly busy weekend...
[Eek!] [Snore] [Yipee] [Help]

So anyway, I will join the ship, Lord Nelson, in Wellington, we sail to Nelson, then to Auckland, I have to take a bit of time off in Auckland (28th November - 6th December) so I'm not on the ship solidly all the way until February, and then I'll be back on board while we have some maintenance time before the long voyage starts on December the 15th, and we leave across the Southern Ocean, off around Cape Horn, ending up in Ushuaia in Argentina. Or, perhaps more clearly, here's the website summary of the voyages .

Quite exciting, but with the frenzy of packing and organising I'm a big bug-eyed with the whole thing at the moment.

Anyway. I might be able to find bits of free wifi at times, and if I do, I might be able to check this thread, so if you happen to be around, PM me. I have no money at all, so I can't afford to go out for dinner or to do anything exciting, but I might be able to do coffee or something, or maybe to invite you to come and see me on board if we're alongside and it fits in to what the ship's doing.


I was wondering if anyone's got ideas for free (or very cheap) things to do in Auckland (travel to anywhere else is difficult, because I can't afford to be spending, well, anything really [Frown] )

eep - this post's got really long somehow, probably because I'm rambling and getting up to poke the washing machine or to add things to lists all the time. I shall stop making your nice thread look all untidy now. Sorry.

I was on a cruise ship on Auckland just two weeks ago and free wifi was hard too find, when I did it was slow to connect. Could have been something to do with 2800 other folk from the ship trying to do the same!!
 
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on :
 
Wow, Luvanddaisies - that sounds like one hell of an exciting voyage!

Hope everything goes well - travel safely. [Smile]
 
Posted by comet (# 10353) on :
 
LnD, that is amazing, I'm writhing with jealousy. if you ever can get a moment to check in with us here on the ship, please do! safe travels!
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
L&D, Auckland City library should have free wi-fi and I think McDonalds do for the price of a coffee.

I know very little about what's available in Auckland.

I've never caught a shuttle at Wellington airport, but I know that the Airport Flyer (bus) leaves from the end of the large room where the baggage claim is located - ask anyone or at one of the shops if you can't find it. It doesn't actually go right to the railway station, you have to walk to a pedestrian subway which goes under a couple of roads to the station. Once in the station the taxis are out the front, which is a right angle to the way you entered the station. Actually I think Queen's wharf is the one with the entrance across the road from the railway station, in which case it is probably not as far as the flyer bus stop is from the station.

Having said all that the shuttle would probably be a more convenient way to go. Just ask for a quote before you get in.

Although it has been changed a lot since I was a child I have always had a soft spot for Wellington Station, my Grandad helped to build it.

Huia

[ 04. November 2013, 04:44: Message edited by: Huia ]
 
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on :
 
What a grand adventure Luv'nDaisies wow.

I have spent a few days in Auckland, the best freebie I discovered was the Auckland museum -free entry and lots of interesting stuff about Melanesia, Maori culture etc as well as some colonial past and natural history stuff. If you haven't totally had enough of the ocean, you might be able to spend a day at the beach near Auckland very cheaply too.
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
I'm too old for it now but, like comet, I am so jealous - have a fab, fab time.
 
Posted by Arabella Purity Winterbottom (# 3434) on :
 
Wow, I would love to do that, LnD. My brother did something similar years ago and had a ball.

Yep, you can catch the orange airport flyer bus. I'd be strongly tempted to follow Huia's advice though and get a shuttle, to get you closer without any confusion about where you're going. Most Welly people can direct you to Queen's Wharf.

If I wasn't going to be in a meeting I'd pick you up and take you. Bother.
 
Posted by luvanddaisies (# 5761) on :
 
aw, thank you everyone for the really helpful and lovely posts here. I'm pretty much packed now, just got to do the last few things and actually *get* there now!

So, I've sailed a lot on Lord Nelson. I'll be on as a (volunteer) Bosun's Mate for the long voyage, but up until then I'll be doing rigging stuff, just working through a jobs list - hence them getting me to fly out earlier than planned.
The Southern Ocean trip is on my Bucket List, and actually getting to see New Zealand is very exciting, even if I only see a little bit.

So...

Galloping Granny - thank you for the bus info, and thank you for the thought of picking me up, had it been possible - it's such a nice thought though, and it made me go all soft and squidgy and unsailorlike [Smile]
I hope the Galloping Grandad is progressing through a walk and a trot towards a jolly decent canter, and that you're getting time to look after yourself too. (and travelling maircies, heh, I haven't heard it pronounced like that since I lived in the Highlands when I was wee [Smile] )

Dennis the Menace - ah boo. Still, I am very practised at the ashore wifi search, from various ships and in various countries, and I speak the same language as the people in this one. How hard can it be..? [Help] [Big Grin]

Piglet - thank you. There wil be parts of the Southern Ocean that are just AAGH. I fully expect this, but it's a thing I want to do. Round the Horn in a Square RIgger - that'll be a tick in a box.

Comet - thanks [Smile] I'm really excited (or I will be once I get aboard and dump my enormous bag-the-size-of-a-planet). I'm not sure where people would want to read my ramblings, but I might send you a little PM if I get time. Lord Nelson is over in the vague direction of the USA some time towards the end of Sail the World... [Biased]

Huia - hey, I can't see you post without thinking of the exercise race threads, back when I was in one place long enough to post on them! Thank you for the transport advice - the shuttle sounds useful (in fact, I've let the Ship know it exists, in case it's useful for people joining/leaving there. Because Lord Nelson's accessible and so has crew of all sorts, able-bodied, wheelchair users, people missing limbs or bits of them, deaf people, blind people, older people who are a bit frail, whatever and whoever really, it might be useful for some of them to know about)

Evangeline - Noted about Museum, thank you [Smile]

Wodders - too old? hah. I've sailed with people older than you (I don't care how old you are, I've always thought 21, personally [Biased] , I don't *think* you're in your late nineties yet, I think the oldest person I've sailed with on Nellie/Tenacious was 96 or 97) on Lord Nelson and on her sister ship Tenacious. Too old? pah, you're able to type on here, you're well up to a voyage (see above). I remember a friend taking a lovely guy up to the top of Tenacious's main mast for his birthday once. He was partially sighted. Oh, how old was he that birthday? 89. Said it would be his birthday morning walk. He was a dude.
Go on, yield to the temptation... you know you want to mwahahaha...

Arabella - Thank you too for transport advice input, and for the thought that you'd pick me up if it were possible - it's so nice of you and GG to even have thought about that.
If you happen to find yourself passing while we're there, ask someone who's around if you can come and have a look, tell them you know someone aboard (I'll be one of the Bosun's Mates, and they'll probably work out that it'd be likely me who'd have invited a person I've only seen online to pop round for coffee and a tour!)

so, I suppose I'd better go and Do Things...
I'll check this thread again before I set off.

Thank you again all.
 
Posted by luvanddaisies (# 5761) on :
 
Double posting, because the previous one was clearly not long or rambly enough...

Just had a message to say she'll be berthed somewhere around here.

Apparently she arrived in Wellington this morning.
 
Posted by Ferijen (# 4719) on :
 
G'day folks on the other side of the world (and LnD, wow, what an adventure!)

At the weekend, I went to a pub which I last went to at a ship meet on the Isle of Wight (not a Wightmeet though) with Cusanus whilst he was doing a tour of the Uk (in the frozen depths of January). Just checking in to see if anyone remembers him/knows how he is.. And on a similar note, anyone heard from/seen Ian C?
 
Posted by Arabella Purity Winterbottom (# 3434) on :
 
LnD, I used to work directly over the road from Queen's Wharf, so saw all the lovely old ships when they came to visit. I've taken a number of photographs over the years - they make wonderfully dramatic subjects.
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ferijen:
G'day folks on the other side of the world (and LnD, wow, what an adventure!)

At the weekend, I went to a pub which I last went to at a ship meet on the Isle of Wight (not a Wightmeet though) with Cusanus whilst he was doing a tour of the Uk (in the frozen depths of January). Just checking in to see if anyone remembers him/knows how he is.. And on a similar note, anyone heard from/seen Ian C?

I had an email from Ian C in the last year but have heard nothing since. It may have been even longer than a year.

[ 04. November 2013, 23:45: Message edited by: Lothlorien ]
 
Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on :
 
Indeed, I used to see Ian C on FB when I was planning my antipodean adventure in 2010. No longer.

As for Cusanus, I believe some of the Ozzies are in touch. He was mentioned as being met a few months back.
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
L&D I hope you realise you're missing the best part of NZ, Te Wai Pounamu (the South Island) - a quick visit to Nelson isn't enough - you'll have to come back.
 
Posted by the giant cheeseburger (# 10942) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Lothlorien:
The bridges are part of the ZigZag railway, the original line to Lithgow from the top of mountains. The historic railway, now a tourist attraction was pretty well wiped out and stock was destroyed days before re-opening after a refurbishment.

You might find this interesting on the tourist railway issue, I've been told by a reliable source that the safety recertification they were working up towards (they had it stripped last year after a damning report into a 2011 head-on collision) was unlikely to be granted by the regulator even if the fire didn't happen. Several of the regulator's key safety requirements weren't yet anywhere near being met, and there was also flood damage to some of the track from early this year still requiring repairs.

The losses to rolling stock now appear to be minimal enough that it shouldn't be a problem (they had way more stuff than they ever knew what to with) but some of the damage to structures. If ZZR goes under, it won't be the fire that will have killed them off but rather their inability to satisfy the regulator that they can run a safe railway.
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
News over here is that they were due to reopen in a very short time.
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
Zig Zag FB page

Rail Express
 
Posted by the giant cheeseburger (# 10942) on :
 
My source at the ONRSR head office here in Adelaide says they were dreaming if they thought they had a chance of getting recertified this soon, and that staff at both ONRSR and ATSB were starting to get a little tired of the casual attitudes at ZZR.
 
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on :
 
After four hours in the dentist's chair two days ago, I have to go back this afternoon for more of the same. Sigh. I have obviously reached the age where my teeth are revolting.

But I did get to see the new whizz-bang machine in the dental surgery sculpting a couple of crowns for me from scanned in images of my mouth. Truly amazing, and TP was gobsmacked they could do it so much more cheaply than the crowns he has had to have built in the past.

Yay for 21st century dentistry!
 
Posted by James the Confident (# 9678) on :
 
[Big Grin] toothy smile for BL! [Big Grin]

This morning I set off for my leisurely drive to Perth. Lovely.
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
Enjoy the drive! My sister did that last year towing a small A frame van. Around the coast from Victoria, across the Nullarbor, then north from Kalgoorlie, I think. She went as far north as Norman where she minded a house for a friend for several months, then returned after also visiting Margaret River area.

She was gobsmacked by the Pilbara and the bush out there, so different to East Coast.
 
Posted by Vulpior (# 12744) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Banner Lady:
After four hours in the dentist's chair two days ago, I have to go back this afternoon for more of the same. Sigh. I have obviously reached the age where my teeth are revolting.

But I did get to see the new whizz-bang machine in the dental surgery sculpting a couple of crowns for me from scanned in images of my mouth. Truly amazing, and TP was gobsmacked they could do it so much more cheaply than the crowns he has had to have built in the past.

Yay for 21st century dentistry!

I have a few of those now. The first time I had one they took me to see it being done. The second time they sat me back in the waiting room so that they could fit someone else in. More recently, they've left me in the chair with the gas on low and the music on high; I'm a real dental wuss but they way they take care of me means that I sometimes nod off.
 
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on :
 
Even the dentist's chair these days is so comfortable that I have the feeling that if I was having a sleepless night the one place where I could sleep would be if I could break into the surgery.

GG
 
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on :
 
Fire quite close today. Local friends posting pics of Elvis overhead all day on Facebook. Smoke was blowing in another direction away from us.

Word is that a woman in 40s and her son in 20s have been arrested for lighting 6 fires.

Usual Friday chaos otherwise. Only 4 stops left of the Friday Kid Run, then wine o'clock.

mr curly.
 
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on :
 
Banner Lady - good luck with your dentistry. [Eek!]

JtC - drive carefully and have a good trip. [Smile]
 
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on :
 
Chaos at Chez Banner this week as the house expands to fit in 4 more family members due for November visits. This means B4's belongings have been stacked in the entry. She's not happy, but there are 30 crates full, and she hasn't lived at home for over a year.

With B1 & her two children needing bridging accommodation over summer, TP is ramping up project management for the shed we desperately need. My challenge will be to keep my kid's stuff out of it so we can utilize it for our own needs. I'm not liking my chances.
[Confused]
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
That would have been a bit close for comfort, Mr Curly, but all seems under control now - and no wind to get the flames going again.
 
Posted by Clarence (# 9491) on :
 
Can anyone recommend a good local Christian supplies place that sells good jewellery? Finding FD a decent cross to wear that isn't teensy or some sort of Goth horror is proving difficult. Most of the online shops are either too high church for Terror's Creek Reformed Tabernacle or are too right wing prosperity gospel for it either.

Most are too small if they are nice (I want something 6cm or a bit longer, without it looking like he is pretending he's a bishop [Smile] )

All suggestions welcome! Please PM me if more appropriate.
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Gee D:
That would have been a bit close for comfort, Mr Curly, but all seems under control now - and no wind to get the flames going again.

My brother's thoughts too when he heard of it.
 
Posted by Patdys (# 9397) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Clarence:
Can anyone recommend a good local Christian supplies place that sells good jewellery? Finding FD a decent cross to wear that isn't teensy or some sort of Goth horror is proving difficult. Most of the online shops are either too high church for Terror's Creek Reformed Tabernacle or are too right wing prosperity gospel for it either.

Most are too small if they are nice (I want something 6cm or a bit longer, without it looking like he is pretending he's a bishop [Smile] )

All suggestions welcome! Please PM me if more appropriate.

Immediately came to mind [Big Grin]
 
Posted by rexory (# 4708) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Clarence:
Can anyone recommend a good local Christian supplies place that sells good jewellery? Finding FD a decent cross to wear that isn't teensy or some sort of Goth horror is proving difficult. Most of the online shops are either too high church for Terror's Creek Reformed Tabernacle or are too right wing prosperity gospel for it either.

Most are too small if they are nice (I want something 6cm or a bit longer, without it looking like he is pretending he's a bishop [Smile] )

All suggestions welcome! Please PM me if more appropriate.

I have bought many through eBay.

[ 09. November 2013, 11:44: Message edited by: rexory ]
 
Posted by Moo (# 107) on :
 
I just went to a craft fair yesterday saw many attractive crosses in various styles.

Have you tried looking at craft fairs?

Moo
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
How about something like this?

[Apologies to all for using this particular website.]
 
Posted by Clarence (# 9491) on :
 
Patdys, he'd love it [Snigger]

WW, funnily enough I was watching that same chap on the Pilgrimage programme on SBS (episode 1 for those who use SBS on demand). I think the thing that struck me the most was his cheerfulness.
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
Bugger Christmas!

The Warehouse no longer sell the wee bowls I use to cook small Christmas puddings in. Alison Holst's crockpot recipe divides neatly into to of these - which in turn fit neatly into my crock pot. (Spotted some at a friend's place so he now has small ceramic bowls instead [Cool] )

I bought freezer, not oven bags to heat the alcohol and fruit in.

I turned on the temperature control, but not the 'bake' function when baking the first cake.

I had planned to do 3 cakes and 3 puds. Maybe I should just consume all the spirits and forget about the baking.

Think I'll take the afternoon off.

Huia
 
Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on :
 
As long as it's not cooking brandy, Huia. All will be well. Take the afternoon off, by all means. A nice G&T will sooth the nerves, so I'm told. [Angel]
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
The brandy is some good quality stuff Dad was given for his work running the "Evergreens" - golf competition for those over 65 and is a very nice drop indeed, part of my inheritance which my brothers will share through the baking.

The day is definitely looking up - the cake survived, I found more oven bags and I'm off to afternoon tea later after I've prepared the pud, which will cook in the microwave overnight, leaving a Chrismassy smell throughout the house [Yipee]
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by PeteC:
As for Cusanus, I believe some of the Ozzies are in touch. He was mentioned as being met a few months back.

I had coffee with the good man in Melbourne about eight weeks back - in fine mettle
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
Good to hear from you Zappa. Your installation seems to have gone well (and as there's no report otherwise, we assume it was painless).
 
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on :
 
How much I hate the cold - especially when it goes from 30 one day to 12 the next. Brrrrrrrr. I feel like I have been living in a fridge for most of the year. It is very hard on a body, this weather.

Summer- it's only three weeks away but feels like it may never get here. I guess at least I have a fire and warm clothes to wear. Perhaps I shall pretend with the grandkids this is Narnia and it is always winter; or that their grandad is secretly of the Stark clan, and so winter follows him about.

BL. Not happy, and possibly hallucinating.

[Help]
 
Posted by Rowen (# 1194) on :
 
Weatherise... Here they are talking about freezing drizzle. Cold, wet.... But an event was cancelled today, so no driving out to nowhere in particular, on bad roads, on a day like this.

Hello, fire, and warm, cosy clothes.
 
Posted by Emendator Liturgia (# 17245) on :
 
It's weather like this that makes me appreciate each evening my water bed and the doona - mind you, both the cat and the dog are o9f the same opinion.

Mind you, I conjoin with those who feel that 34 one day and 15 the next is not the sort of condition to get the body, mind and soul ready for the eventual heat of summer.
 
Posted by Barnabas Aus (# 15869) on :
 
Our Shipmate Dangerous Deacon has also been installed in the Top End deanery over this last weekend.The major changes for that diocese continue.
 
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on :
 
Hoping against hope that there might be an answer to this. My friend is looking for a, preferably Anglican church in Sydney (they live in the inner west but prepared to travel) that has a children's program of some sort (doesn't have to be a huge one but does need to take children's ministry seriously) but that doesn't teach hierachical complementarianism and would not be so family oriented that she would feel uncomfortable to take her kids there without her husband as he isn't interested in attending church at all.
 
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Banner Lady:
... I hate the cold - especially when it goes from 30 one day to 12 the next ...

Now that's what I'd call a blessed relief. [Devil]
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
My sister has been at Peelwood, northwest of Laggan, up towards Tuena, for a couple of months. In the last month most overnight temperatures have been below zero and one night was -6, wiping out tomato and fruit crops.

She was glad to go to Crookwell the other day where it was warmer. Crookwell and warmth are not two words I would usually put together.

[ 12. November 2013, 02:08: Message edited by: Lothlorien ]
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Gee D:
Good to hear from you Zappa. Your installation seems to have gone well (and as there's no report otherwise, we assume it was painless).

Relatively painless - and frenetic since! Now I'm off to The Volcanic Side™ for a Deans' Conference.
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Barnabas Aus:
Our Shipmate Dangerous Deacon has also been installed in the Top End deanery over this last weekend.The major changes for that diocese continue.

And may I say I am very sad to have mistimed things so badly that I will not be working with him. A great appointment and very challenging times ahead. The registrar, too, has now resigned.
 
Posted by Rowen (# 1194) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Emendator Liturgia:
It's weather like this that makes me appreciate each evening my water bed and the doona - mind you, both the cat and the dog are o9f the same opinion.

Mind you, I conjoin with those who feel that 34 one day and 15 the next is not the sort of condition to get the body, mind and soul ready for the eventual heat of summer.

Decided not to get used to summer at all.... So, long service leave in north America instead, visiting family and friends. Can't wait until December 1! [Big Grin] (Until Feb 20)

At present, there will ne no replacement for me, so local folk, lay and retired ordained will fill in. Everyone feels ok about this, thankfully.

And so, I fill my days either soberly doing work, or being wildly excited.

Or shivering in the cold!
 
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by piglet:
quote:
Originally posted by Banner Lady:
... I hate the cold - especially when it goes from 30 one day to 12 the next ...

Now that's what I'd call a blessed relief. [Devil]
MIL has just arrived, so now I have TWO English people in the house telling me how lovely this cool weather is. To them anything over 25 is unbearable and time to put the fans on.
[Disappointed] I suppose I should be glad it suits them, but I'm just not that much of a Pollyanna.

The unseasonable late frosts have burnt off all the Canola crops 3 weeks before harvest time, so farmers across the Monaro are busy turning it into silage. The price of canola oil will no doubt be rising shortly. You heard it here first.

Rowen: sounds lovely, and you were always much better at winter than summer anyway....a talent I often wish I could possess.

[ 12. November 2013, 19:59: Message edited by: Banner Lady ]
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
quote:
so farmers across the Monaro are busy turning it into silage
Aaah, but think of the healthy beef you will get if it is raised on that silage.

Lothlorien, who practised driving tractor by compacting a pit of silage.
 
Posted by DangerousDeacon (# 10582) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Barnabas Aus:
Our Shipmate Dangerous Deacon has also been installed in the Top End deanery over this last weekend.The major changes for that diocese continue.

Thanks Barnabas! I am finally re-emerging from underneath a (virtual) mountain of e-mails and the more old fashioned hard copy stuff, and back onto the Ship. I must admit I am very sorry not to be working with Zappa, who of course has now gone onto greater things.

We have, sadly, lost our Bishop in the prisoner exchange with the Diocese of Newcastle and are indeed shortly to lose our Registrar who is going home to New Zappaland. The replacement of one these in very quick time is crucial, but we can wait for a Bishop!
 
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on :
 
You have my sympathy, DD - our Electoral Synod meets tomorrow and Saturday to appoint a new Bishop, and we're hoping they'll keep their hands off the Dean because we don't want to lose him.
 
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on :
 
I notice in appointments round these parts, that MM is now Musical Director of the Church With The Pond. Am thinking I might have to experience midnight mass there this Christmas. Should be a treat. [Smile]
 
Posted by Vulpior (# 12744) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Banner Lady:
I notice in appointments round these parts, that MM is now Musical Director of the Church With The Pond. Am thinking I might have to experience midnight mass there this Christmas. Should be a treat. [Smile]

Indeed. We are bidding farewell to MM, and to our organist, at All Trains in a couple of Sundays. Change, change, change. I must belong there now because, having been thinking about asking for a name badge, I was presented with one over coffee.
 
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on :
 
Ooh - once you've got a Name Badge, you'll be asked to Do Things ... [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Vulpior (# 12744) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by piglet:
Ooh - once you've got a Name Badge, you'll be asked to Do Things ... [Big Grin]

Intercessions and sanctuary party so far, through my own volunteering. I can duck, although I did make the mistake of telling the treasurer that I have been a treasurer in the past...
 
Posted by Vulpior (# 12744) on :
 
Hot off the press: Sarah MacNeill, formerly of All Trains, elected Bishop of Grafton.
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
First woman diocesan in Oz then. Well done.
 
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by piglet:
... we're hoping they'll keep their hands off the Dean because we don't want to lose him.

They did, and we won't. [Yipee]

Congratulations too to your new lady bishop. [Smile]
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Gee D:
First woman diocesan in Oz then. Well done.

YaY! (What took you so long? [Biased] )

Huia
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
Mini tornado at Hornsby Westfield and area nearby this afternoon. Trees down, cinema roof collapsed, cars and trucks overturned. Hornsby is the apex of the mainline and north shore line trains and from there trains go north. Everything is shut. A shipmate is in the area and at least I imagine he could be caught up in train problems. The Pacific Highway is reduced to one lane through Hornsby as trees are down.
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
Huia, I agree, but at least we're there. On my count, that makes 1 diocesan and 3 assistant/area bishops. An Archbishop soon? In Sydney, women are still not being licensed as priests, but ++ Glenn has said publicly that he will license as a deacon a woman priested elsewhere, and what she may do in a parish is a matter for the rector and parish council to decide. That includes presiding. Not good that a woman cannot be properly recognised, but one day (probably not in my lifetime) that may occur.

And Lothlorien, Madame messaged me to say that the storm was nearby (about 3 km in a straight line) but that all was well at home. She and Dlet drove down the line a few suburbs to meet me for dinner, as the trains were a problem. That was a good idea, as there were bad delays. Just a freak storm, very intense and affected only a small area. Now home, reasonably dry. We shall see what the morning brings. I may drive in.
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
Bloody Shakey Isles- it was mag 4.6 and sounded like a train roaring past the house. No damage -my wooden rainbow jig-saw is still standing and Georgie-Porgy is still sleeping.

Just a reninder I should renew my emergency supplies, especially water.

Huia
 
Posted by Barnabas Aus (# 15869) on :
 
Gee D, I think we have four women assistants - Brisbane, Melbourne, Perth, Canberra/Goulburn.

Great news for Grafton. Pity my own diocese did not have the courage to take the step earlier in the year.
 
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Gee D:
... In Sydney, women are still not being licensed as priests ...

Really? [Ultra confused]

And [Votive] for anyone affected by the earthquake.

[ 18. November 2013, 15:11: Message edited by: piglet ]
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
Yes, Piglet, really. Disgraceful but it certainly won't change tomorrow. Ballarat only passed an ordinance to permit priesting of women a couple of months ago, and as well as Sydney, I think there are a couple of others who won't.

And thanks Barnabas Aus, I had forgotten Brisbane.
 
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on :
 
I sang in the choir at the first ordination of women priests in the British Isles, which took place in Belfast Cathedral in about 1990. As it was such a long time ago, it really hadn't occurred to me that there were still places that didn't.
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by DangerousDeacon:
... Zappa, who of course has now gone onto greater things ...

That would be greater fog? Sigh. [Ultra confused]

Sorry we kidnapped the Registrar, though. [Snigger] Blame Kuruman.
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by piglet:
I sang in the choir at the first ordination of women priests in the British Isles, which took place in Belfast Cathedral in about 1990. As it was such a long time ago, it really hadn't occurred to me that there were still places that didn't.

Again, alas yes there are. Most dioceses here have women priests - in some, close to half the stipendiary clergy are women (the proportion of retired clergy is fairly naturally skewed towards men) but not Sydney.
 
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on :
 
I'm interested to note how many of the services reported by Mystery Worshippers are led by women clergy, in various countries and various denominations.

GG
 
Posted by Rowen (# 1194) on :
 
In my own remote region, what with UCA, Anglican, and SA.... Many more women than men, in my feld of er em expertise!
 
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on :
 
D. does some teaching at the local theological college; as most of the students are retired ladies, there's usually Great Rejoicing when a bloke enrols on the full-time M.Div. course.

IIRC when they were debating the issue in the Church of Ireland, a lot of places in the Irish Republic voted in favour of women priests because it was hard to fill the parishes; and a lot in the more "fundamental" areas of Northern Ireland voted in favour because "the Presbyterian church up the road has a lady minister, and she's lovely".

Not perhaps the best reasoning ...

[ 19. November 2013, 16:34: Message edited by: piglet ]
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
The good thing about the NI reasoning is that it recognises and accepts that there's nothing scary about a woman priest. But putting up with women because you can't get men……….
 
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Gee D:
The good thing about the NI reasoning is that it recognises and accepts that there's nothing scary about a woman priest. But putting up with women because you can't get men……….

I would jump at the "putting up with women because you can't get men..." reasoning compared to what we have in Sydney Anglican circles atm, which can be boiled down to you're not a Christian if you don't believe hierachical complementarianism is God's way and anything else is a sin. [Tear]
 
Posted by DangerousDeacon (# 10582) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Zappa:
quote:
Originally posted by DangerousDeacon:
... Zappa, who of course has now gone onto greater things ...

That would be greater fog? Sigh. [Ultra confused]

Sorry we kidnapped the Registrar, though. [Snigger] Blame Kuruman.

Not happy [Frown] though there are very good personal reasons for our Registrar leaving. But it does mean we are trying to find a Registrar and Bishop at the same time.

And a well done to Grafton - an excellent choice. But it will be a tough gig - the Diocese is going through the ringers at the Royal Commission, and as usual the guilty bastards are long gone and we new chums have to pick up the pieces.

In my last parish it was the same; a paedophile had been active there thirty years ago and done tremendous damage. So many lives ruined.
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by DangerousDeacon:
we are trying to find a Registrar and Bishop at the same time ...


... which is about 33% of the stipended positions in the diocese!
 
Posted by Arabella Purity Winterbottom (# 3434) on :
 
Spent last weekend in Caboolture for a wedding (my eldest nephew). Bit hot for me the first day but then rather nice.

The weather didn't register next to the family politics: I can't remember who said that a wedding was a day designed to offend as many people in as short a time as possible, but this one fitted the bill (take two sets of control freak parents, only one of which is paying the bills...). Fortunately, the crap didn't touch the young couple, and the ceremony itself was lovely (on the beach at Bribie Island).

I particularly enjoyed catching up with my nephews and their girlfriends. Four of the six are studying to become teachers, and they filled me in on the politics of education in Aussie at great length. I also got to see the mother of all computers that the bridegroom has been building himself. [Ultra confused]
 
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on :
 
This morning I went out to get the paper at 6.45, found the back door of the car open and a pair of feet sticking out – there was a young man asleep face down on the back seat.
Sent for the police, who woke him up; I will never forget his horrified look when he saw us and realised he wasn't where he should be.
The police took him to his brother's place where he was staying and we had a very humble apology on the phone shortly after; he turned up by arrangement at 10 am with a gigantic bunch of flowers and a bucket with cleaning materials (though I think there was nothing worse than a bit of drool where his face had been.
Goodness knows how he'd directed his taxi at about 3 am – his brother lives a couple of kilometres away. He'd been geographically challenged, he thought, by the Wellington hills; he comes from a flat city.
He did a great job on the car and we parted cheerfully, he still apologising.
Who said nothing ever happens in our little cul–de-sac?

GG
 
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on :
 
Blimey, GG - I think you'd have lost me at "a pair of feet sticking out" ...

[Eek!] [Eek!] [Eek!]
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
Write it as a TV sketch. But he did know what he he had done and behaved well.
 
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on :
 
GG, Live in the same street long enough, and interesting things happen eventually. We've been in the same location 30 years, on the corner of a T-section. In that time we've had a hot air balloon land outside our house (forgot to fill the spare gas canister, apparently); had a car miss the fact that it was a T-section rather than a through road and end up on the verandah of the house opposite the T; and had a brass band march down our normally quiet back-street playing rousing salvation songs. We also have a steady stream of Goths walking past because our street is a short cut between the local college and the nearest suburban shops; and occasionally a bewildered kangaroo is sighted bounding along the street looking for a way back to nearby scrubland.

I'd love to hear what interesting things have happened on the streets where other shippies live - though GG's story would take a bit to top!
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
In the street where I lived for many years, a large tree suddenly keeled over and smashed a small car parked over the road. No rain, no wind, it just gave up. The tree blocked the road.

One morning I was looking out the window when a small, unregistered vehicle went past with a load of bricks for the building construction for the large girls' private school. School takes up the block but it was easier to carry bricks by road than through grounds.

It hit a bump and bricks went everywhere. Fortunately it was just before school drop off. I took some photos and the labourers in cart jumped out and started picking them up frantically. I emailed photos to council who were promptly on the site as the cart was totally unlicensed and not meant to be on public roads.

The original lane access to our house had a recessed gateway to our backyard. I looked out one afternoon some years ago to see a small bit of construction equipment parked in the recess, out of sight for anyone looking down lane. Council employee was having a liquid lunch just down the road at Croydon pub.

[ 24. November 2013, 20:23: Message edited by: Lothlorien ]
 
Posted by the giant cheeseburger (# 10942) on :
 
Where I grew up we were on a dead end street which was the 'last' street on the edge of the suburb with paddocks beyond the end and a park with a creek on the other side from the houses. We had koalas, rosellas and lorikeets in the trees, blue wrens and willy wagtails in the shrubs and during summer the eastern grey kangaroos would come onto our front lawn to rest in the afternoon shade and drink from a water trough fed from a spring in the back garden. It was a fantastic house for whenever we had international friends around the place primarily because it saved paying for a trip to a wildlife park!

It was a little annoying at times though, despite our best efforts with netting the stupid parrots would get themselves stuck or eat so much they would be too fat to fly. The noise on a warm summer night from the sheep beyond the end of the street and horny koalas in the trees is hardly conducive to a restful night.

There were a few occasions when eucalyptus branches fell onto the fence at the end of the street and a small flock of sheep got to explore the strange world of suburbia, one was lucky to get out alive when it made the ill-advised decision to get stuck in mum's roses the day before we had a big family barbecue planned. The owner started taking a bit more care of his fence after the time the sheep escaped and we returned three of them to the paddock coloured purple after an encounter with a watering can and some food dye [Snigger]


The most exciting things that have happened on any of the streets/roads where I've lived since moving out of home has been a drug bust and a stage of the Tour Down Under.
 
Posted by Dennis the Menace (# 11833) on :
 
An interesting time at church yesterday. We had a christening and it turned out, although nothing was said, to be the son of a same sex male couple!! Only one of the couple took the vows but it was obvious who the other half was!! The son was well behaved and dressed rather dapper for a six month old.

A rather humourus line from the lovely old dear that did the prayers of the world... and dear Father Christmas is nearly upon us No pause or comma between father and Christmas was cause for a snigger or two.
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
Well done Dennis! But ar they not both father?
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
Rowen, I hope you have been able to get the mess with your car sorted out.

Have a great time away.
 
Posted by Rowen (# 1194) on :
 
Car rented for the weekend! Yay! Long service leave..... [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
Prayers for your safe travelling Rowen, and for a time of refreshment in your break.
 
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Rowen:
... Long service leave..... [Big Grin]

I always feel as if I need Long Service Leave after an ordination ... [Devil]
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by piglet:
quote:
Originally posted by Rowen:
... Long service leave..... [Big Grin]

I always feel as if I need Long Service Leave after an ordination ... [Devil]
I used to go to a church with a Vicar like that.
 
Posted by jugular (# 4174) on :
 
Happy almost-Advent everyone!

On Friday it will ten year's since that most Shippy occasion when I was ordained as a deacon. I'm trying to remember who was there. I've got a set of pictures from the priest ordination, can't find a darned thing from the deacon one. I will have to go through my files...
 
Posted by James the Confident (# 9678) on :
 
Congrats jugs.

I'm home again after a round trip of 9,800km. A great trip and one I would recommend to anyone. [Smile]
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
Prayers for you this Friday, Jugular, on your anniversary.
 
Posted by DangerousDeacon (# 10582) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Zappa:
quote:
Originally posted by DangerousDeacon:
we are trying to find a Registrar and Bishop at the same time ...


... which is about 33% of the stipended positions in the diocese!
It appears we do have money for both! Now just wait for the rush of eager job applicants.
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
Things are not wonderful here. My neatly ordered existence was turned upside down by the arrival in the middle of the night a week ago of #2 son, very traumatised and upset. With a plea to be allowed to stay for a while. The "while" now seems to be stretching out and I have heard facts I never wanted to know about.

#1 son needs another back operation, much more major than the first one. Massive pain levels again. Needs co-ordinating of three surgeons, anaesthetist, private hospital and insurance company. It could be next Monday, or two days before Christmas or not till February. He's still doing normal job at high govt level, mostly from home and is working at top level job he was seconded to through bushfires. Just in case there are more fires, as is likely. Again mostly from home.

I have a badly frozen shoulder and can hardly move left arm. Ultrasounds and x-rays for that today and lots of pain.

#3 son is moving house and his ex-partner is being narky.

Not exactly feeling like Christmas here at all.

[ 03. December 2013, 21:16: Message edited by: Lothlorien ]
 
Posted by Vulpior (# 12744) on :
 
[Votive] Loth.
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
Prayers and upholding Lothlorien [Votive]
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
Not good Lothlorien, esp coming a year or so after the problems with your other son.
 
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on :
 
[Votive]
Prayers for you, Loth, for strength and peace; and for those sons with all their troubles.

GG
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
Thank you all. I have been poked and pushed and pulled and contorted, all in the name of an ultrasound. Then technician disappeared to get x-rays to check and brought back a senior fellow who did it all again. My guess is that the joint is stuffed. It crunches and clicks and is painful and inflamed and movement is very limited.

I didn't wait for the report. Have GP appointment for Friday and a day wasn't going to make much difference. They will courier it to GP.

I could have gone by the unreliable bus around corner. (made the press a few weeks ago as one of the five worst bus routes in Sydney.)

Friend absolutely insisted on lunch first and then a ride to Imaging centre. He went shopping while I was in there and then brought me home again. Shopping revealed some Asian goodies for my dinner as he knew I would be sore. I am extremely grateful.
He doesn't live far away but the Centre was in middle of line between our places and he could have gone home. We had a cup of tea and talked for several hours.

[ 04. December 2013, 09:11: Message edited by: Lothlorien ]
 
Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on :
 
Hugs and prayers Loth, both for the pain thing and the sons thing! [Votive]
 
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on :
 
[Votive] Lothlorien.
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
Thank goodness for friends!

Thinking of you Loth. [Votive]

Huia
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
Have just been told eldest son will have major back surgery early next week. Disc replacement and some fusion of spine as neurosurgeon is unwilling to introduce movement into an area which has not worked for three years.
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
Seriously buggeroovied. Can I give up my day job now? After barely lifting my finger to do a thing for two and a half years this is quite a (pleasant, mainly) shock.
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
Found out ultrasound results on my shoulder today.

It is not frozen, it's stuffed and needs a replacement joint. Two tendons totally ripped across, another torn partially, severe osteoarthritis, ball joint is impacted into socket, much inflammation and... and..

It needs surgery but I haven't even begun that process yet and this close to Christmas and January nothing is likely to be easy or convenient.

"I told you I couldn't move it," with apologies to Spike Milligan.

[ 06. December 2013, 07:43: Message edited by: Lothlorien ]
 
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on :
 
Gosh, Lothlorien, that sounds nasty. I didn't even know that they could replace shoulders - is it a similar procedure to replacing knees and hips? If it is, I've heard lots about how great the replacement joints are; my mother-in-law was leaping about like a hart (almost) after getting her knee done.

[Votive]
 
Posted by Patdys (# 9397) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Zappa:
Seriously buggeroovied. Can I give up my day job now? After barely lifting my finger to do a thing for two and a half years this is quite a (pleasant, mainly) shock.

Picking up your cross buddy?
 
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on :
 
Loth, I can only hope that there will be friends to help you, that surgery will be soon and successful, that your family will find resolutions to their predicaments, and that 2014 will be Whole Lot Better.
(And I thought we had problems.)

Do you have state-funded type help available?

[Votive] [Votive] [Votive] [Votive]

GG
 
Posted by Patdys (# 9397) on :
 
Loth,

I am very sorry to read back over this thread and see your suffering. You have my prayers.
 
Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on :
 
Oh Loth, it never rains but it pours. Many prayers for you today and always. Love and hugs. [Votive]
 
Posted by Rowen (# 1194) on :
 
Prayers indeed.

I write this from Ohio, USA... Finally got here, car troubles, buses, planes and all. It is wonderful to be here with my sister and her large extended family. The scenery with snow is so pretty, and to date, I have found the cold ok. Maybe I can handle it better now, after living in Victoria? The last few times I came over, I lived in Qld.
I love being on holiday!
I enjoy the shopping!
I adore the children in the family!
 
Posted by Patdys (# 9397) on :
 
My wife would sell me for a White Christmas.
The fact that she would swap me for a used Kleenex is beside the point . Enjoy!
 
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on :
 
If we get one can I send it over your way? White Christmases are all very well, but you have to shovel them, and then they turn into grey, muddy, snirty Januaries. [Frown]
 
Posted by Rowen (# 1194) on :
 
Mind you, I have a revolting head cold.... Travel by plane? All those germs.....
 
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on :
 
In recovery after MCing a Xmas Party for 3 hours. Not too difficult, because when you get 50 women together determined to have a good time, a good time is had. However I'm not the most organized of people at the best of times, so 3 hours was a big ask. I'm still looking for my brain....
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
I've been searching for mine for years without so much as a glimmer of success.

[Frown]
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Lothlorien:
Have just been told eldest son will have major back surgery early next week. Disc replacement and some fusion of spine as neurosurgeon is unwilling to introduce movement into an area which has not worked for three years.

Everything aligned and son had the operation at 7:00 am this morning. Back in his room around 4:00 pm, doped up. However he looks very much better than after first operation two years ago. He doesn't want visitors. He directs what energies he has to recovery, not chit chat.
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
Glad to hear the good news Lothlorien.
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
Son is up and walking around the room and corridor supported by DIL. He's not impressed with the jelly and custard diet given him as stomach and gut were moved out to allow access.

Surgeon is very pleased with the whole thing and also says son will be taller than for the last few years. Disc was replaced with one of correct size and lowest part of spine was fused. The degenerated disc was allowing the spine to collapse. He's 6'5"

We are thankful things have gone well, and bar more bushfires over Christmas/January, there is time for recovery. He's been working on bushfire plans at Regentville to get stuff into place before it's needed.
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
Loth, [Votive] fpr your son's continuing progress in healing. [Votive]

Huia
 
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on :
 
Loth: sounds ouchy.

After 2 weeks in lockdown because of a virulant gastric bug, I have finally been allowed back into my mother's nursing home. She was definitely beginning to go stir crazy, even with her limited mobility.
To their credit, they didn't lose anyone - even the 106 year old recovered okay. Some tough genes in that place.
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
And a well done from us to your son, Lothlorien.
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Banner Lady:
...To their credit, they didn't lose anyone - even the 106 year old recovered okay. Some tough genes in that place.

When I worked in residential care of the elderly I saw the same sort of thing - and if someone can get to 80, 90, 100 they have got to be pretty darned tough - the weaker ones tend to fall by the wayside earlier.
 
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on :
 
Great news about your son, Lothlorien - may his recovery be a as quick and hassle-free as possible.

[Votive]
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
Very nervous about the future of the Diocese of The Northern Territory ...
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
Not content with making commuters watch trains go past at busy stations and having them change two or three times on what was once a through trip, our Glad, the transport minister, has done it again. The reasons the buses are late is that they have to stop to pick up passengers. Solution? Halve the number of stops.

Why do I think of the fully equipped and staffed hospital with no patients?
 
Posted by DangerousDeacon (# 10582) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Zappa:
Very nervous about the future of the Diocese of The Northern Territory ...

We have a new Registrar appointed. Now for a Bishop. Doubtless Zappa is receiving the good oil from the Bush Telegraph. In relation to this process, I am only an interested bystander.
 
Posted by Tukai (# 12960) on :
 
I found the quote in my new signature block in the online Canberra times this morning, as part of a longer profile of the Pope .

Even though I'm not a Roman, I still think it's very apt.
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Lothlorien:
Not content with making commuters watch trains go past at busy stations and having them change two or three times on what was once a through trip, our Glad, the transport minister, has done it again. The reasons the buses are late is that they have to stop to pick up passengers. Solution? Halve the number of stops.

Why do I think of the fully equipped and staffed hospital with no patients?

Amazing how daft ministers of the Crown can be.. Of course this person probably never even catches a bus and sees how many users would have problems with their solution. Either put more buses on or re-write the timetable to reflect reality.

As for cutting out through buses, this means people have to catch more buses. which alsomeans the time loading is longer - sounds like an "own goal" to me.

One of the best things about living here is that the bus service is reasonably good. We are still having frequent detours due to earthquake related stuff, but the route I travel has week=day buses every 15 mins, and half-hourly in the weekend. After 9pm buses will stop where requested, but some drivers on quieter routes so this for elderly or overburdened passengers anyway.

Huia
 
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on :
 
At a farewell dinner last night I was sitting next to a devout baptist who at one stage said "Of course, Australia has never had a widespread spiritual revival like New Zealand did."

I obviously missed this in my Theology studies. Would anyone from across the Tasman care to enlighten me?

BL. Most intrigued.
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
Perhaps "Thank Heaven for small mercies" would have been an appropriate comment.
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
Did we? When? Where?

Latest census figures would tend to suggest otherwise.

I was revived yesterday - from a general anesthetic. It wasn't pleasant, but the alternative would have been worse.

Huia
 
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Huia:


I was revived yesterday - from a general anesthetic. It wasn't pleasant, but the alternative would have been worse.

Huia

[Killing me] Only if you're afeared of hellfire and damnation!

Seriously, hope you bounce back quickly Huia. And that the earth doesn't move for you while you are in recovery.

Oh, and Scripture in Song was touted as having come from the aforementioned revival. Curiouser and curiouser.
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
Yes, prayers for you Huia. A simple and standard procedure can have its moments.
 
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Banner Lady

Oh, and Scripture in Song was touted as having come from the aforementioned revival. Curiouser and curiouser. [/QB]

I remember first encountering Scripture in Song many decades ago.

And I remember Marching for Jesus through the city singing Graham Kendrick stuff; that was rather later but still a long time ago. Not really my kind of thing but I did it once to show solidarity; I think it was repeated a couple of times.

There are a handful of Kendrick songs I enjoy – we sang his calypso carol 'This Child' last Sunday and I almost started dancing.

GG
 
Posted by rexory (# 4708) on :
 
Dunno about "revival", but I certainly remember "Scripture in Song" being very popular in the pentecostal churches in which Mrs R and I were involved in the early-mid 'seventies. And we often had NZ "evangelists" and preachers visiting us. This was in Geelong. Some good songs, some not so. Tomorrow's OT reading contains one of the "better" ones - "Therefore the redeemed of the Lord shall return..." Been earwormed with it all day.
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
[Votive] for you, Huia. Take care.
 
Posted by Curiosity killed ... (# 11770) on :
 
Lothlorien - sounds as if you're having a terrible time - and best wishes for recovery to Huia.
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Curiosity killed ...:
Lothlorien - sounds as if you're having a terrible time - and best wishes for recovery to Huia.

Thanks Ck and others for good wishes.

I visited a friend in southern highlands. She's a very competent physio and has taped shoulder for some relief. Nothing much doing in medical world at this time of year. It feels better but doesn't go well with summer clothes!

Son with back operation is happy with his back. However, his gut is still protesting at the indignities heaped upon it during operation and is not working very well at all.
 
Posted by Clarence (# 9491) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by rexory:
Some good songs, some not so. Tomorrow's OT reading contains one of the "better" ones - "Therefore the redeemed of the Lord shall return..." Been earwormed with it all day.

Yup. Me too. Been doing all the slides for tomorrow and had it in my head all day (and we are singing it).

We're also screening this, which I have watched many times during the prep and am still enjoying: An Unexpected Christmas
 
Posted by Arabella Purity Winterbottom (# 3434) on :
 
Huia [Votive]

Sang The Messiah last night. Lovely Aussie conductor, Richard Gill, lovely soloists evenly split between NZ and Aus, and a radically reduced Orpheus Choir and NZSO. It was fab from where I was... and all the comments so far seem to be positive. I do feel very lucky to be allowed to sing such wonderful stuff.

We went out with the basses afterwards and discovered just how noisy Wellington is on a Saturday night - bad case of cognitive dissonance coming from lovely music to drunks throwing up and shouting at us (we were a bit of an anomaly, what with the boys all being dressed in tuxes and us in full formal black). Definitely life's rich tapestry.
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
Richard Gill started his career at the school where my father taught and my brother and sister attended. Great guy who refused to buy a car and arrived and departed every day in a cab. He declared the short trio to and from home was cheaper and safer in a cab.

I was given his autobiography last year and found I knew many of those mentioned there.
 
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on :
 
[Votive] Loth
[Votive] Huia

I'm unscathed after my first game of cricket in 24 years yesterday. First game with Biggest, who made a more meaningful contribution than I. Managed to field ok, while not being required to bat or bowl.
Watching Middle today who has been called up to play a game of rep cricket. Glad to be resting my sore legs all day.
Feeling the chaos of the season rather than the anticipation of advent. We're also not looking forward to some aspects of Christmas, with mother in law not well (chemo for long standing lymphoma) and sister in law deteriorating fast with motor neuron disease.

mr curly
 
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on :
 
[Votive] for Loth, Huia and Mr. Curly and his family.

APW, that sounds like a very good night - Messiah and imbibing with the basses!

As Descartes might have said (but probably didn't), I have sung, therefore I must drink. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
Ah, the timing explains why I missed the revival - my years in the wilderness. I do remember some of the music though, from when I re-joined the church in about 1979/80.

Hymns For Sunday Morning today played a French carol I learnt at primary school over 50 years ago (in English the first lines are; Christ is born as a child on earth, play pipe and drum, play the flute and bagpipes/Christ is born as a child on earth, sing and dance to proclaim His birth.)

I was so glad to hear it again, although it was sung in French as L'Enfant Divine(excuse the lack of accents and spelling - it's been a long time [Biased] ).

I have still to hear "Evey Star shall sing a Carol" which I would love to hear again, being on dial up is sooo frustrating.

Next week we are going to sing alot of carols. I feel sorry for whoever sits next to me as with my hearing I am never sure I've hit the right note, but I still sing with enthusiasm. People like me are probably a source of pain to others [Hot and Hormonal] and cause them to display Christian Forbearance.

Huia

[ 15. December 2013, 00:56: Message edited by: Huia ]
 
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on :
 
APW – was that the Messiah with Teddy Tahu Rhodes? My favourite male voice – has a kind of edge that sends tingles up my spine.

[Votive] [Votive] [Votive] for Huia, Lothlorien and Mr Curley's family. And maybe a wee one for me, 'cos I fell over and (?) sprained my shoulder on Monday, and no appointments available for a scan till next Wednesday – but it is beginning to feel a bit better. The x-ray was fine; my bones are pretty solid. I note the difference in implication between 'X fell over' and 'X Had a Fall', the latter implying a traumatic life event for an Older Person.

Huia I heard that carol, and I hadn't heard it for years. (Puts on French teacher's hat) "Il est né, le divin enfant". Some other beauties in church this morning when the choir, assembled annually for the event, did a magnificent job. Where does Val find all those wonderful songs? I even nabbed someone who is always a willing contributor to write about it for the church newsletter here (which in my hands isn't terribly 'religious', with no biblical texts, saints' days, people to pray for etc).

GG

Sorry I messed up the URL.

(Fixed it for you)

[ 15. December 2013, 07:49: Message edited by: Firenze ]
 
Posted by Arabella Purity Winterbottom (# 3434) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Galloping Granny:
APW – was that the Messiah with Teddy Tahu Rhodes? My favourite male voice – has a kind of edge that sends tingles up my spine.

It most certainly was. He reminded me of why I always wanted to grow up to be a bass when I was little. Although... the trumpet playing (Cheryl Holliger) was so good in The Trumpet Shall Sound that I forgot to listen to the singer.

Thanks for the extra info on Richard Gill, Loth. As a result I went looking for more info and am amazed at his many and various musical endeavours. He's a man after my own heart, although I suspect not always the easiest person to live with. He was particularly insistent on making the drama come alive - "If you don't believe, then think of it as theatre, if you do believe then regard the audience as possible converts."

Huia, Il est ne is one of my favourites. In fact, I could live very happily on a diet of French carols around Christmas. Another great fave is Un flambeau Jeanette, Isabella (Bring a torch).

However, I never want to sing Te Harinui again. Orpheus did a concert in Te Papa a couple of weeks ago, and our director (fab musician, not that clued up on NZ history) selected it. I wanted to, in the words of Dorothy Parker, fwow up.
 
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on :
 
Annabel Purity Winterbottom said
quote:
However, I never want to sing Te Harinui again. Orpheus did a concert in Te Papa a couple of weeks ago, and our director (fab musician, not that clued up on NZ history) selected it. I wanted to, in the words of Dorothy Parker, fwow up.
It was included in the carol singing at the Labyrinth last week, and we were enjoined to be sure and sing 'harinui' not 'haranui' as the latter means something like 'big curse'.
They made a point of including several NZ carols, others much more acceptable.

GG
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mr Curly:

I'm unscathed after my first game of cricket in 24 years yesterday. First game with Biggest, who made a more meaningful contribution than I. Managed to field ok, while not being required to bat or bowl.
disease.
mr curly

A great joy - and I mean that in its best sense - at the end of Prep School is that the boys teams play a team made up from parents and other significants. My father and I were in the team against Dlet, and I managed to bowl him for 3. I was caught by another boy, but bowled Dlet for 14, and my father was bowled by him for 8. At the reprise in Yr 12, my father was there but unable to play. I bowled Dlet for 7, and he me for 6. Special rules of course for length of time at the crease, rotation of bowlers and fielders etc.

I'm sorry to hear of your family's health problems esp at this time of the year.

A week of law term to go!
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
GG [Votive] for the recovery of your shoulder.

Thank-you too for the correct name for the carol -I'll be able to chase it up now, along with Jeanette Isabella, another favourite.

If I never hear 'Te Harinui' again I wouldn't miss it.

I'm feeling better, but am off to the doctor today as I wasn't properly discharged because no one could find the surgeon, probably delivering a baby or something - the pressure on staff there seems relentless.

Huia
 
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on :
 
Ventured into a sporting warehouse on Saturday to look for the first cricket set for B1.2 who is 7 and built like an elf. In the end we plumped for a lightweight plastic practice thing that has its own pop up ball launcher. He's not really very sports oriented, so we figured the pleasure he will get in playing with the launcher might keep him with a bat in his hands longer.

BL in a sports warehouse? Think Alice in Wonderland, and you've got it about right!
 
Posted by Martin PC not & Ship's Biohazard (# 368) on :
 
Is there a decent, inclusive, student infested church in Christchurch ?
 
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on :
 
Huia - Il est ne le divin enfant is in Carols for Choirs book 2 (the orange one); most church choirs worth their salt should have a copy of it.
 
Posted by jugular (# 4174) on :
 
I thought that youse on the ship would enjoy this story most of all. Last Sunday was the first Pirate Church Christmas Special 'Away Into Danger'. As is our custom, we went out for dinner afterwards in Chinatown, at about 10pm, accompanied by some friends who had come to see the show. We ordered enough food to feed a small army, and made lots of raucous noise, including singing (in the most mocking way possible) 'Shine Jesus Shine', 'Shout to the Lord' and 'The Power of Your Love'. I mean seriously mocking, I was doing little asides about the audacity of commanding Jesus to shine as if he wasn't already, and the lesbian couple were singing 'I sing for joy at the work of your hands' to each other like a love song.

Actually, we were being a bit due and inconsiderate towards the other diners. But it was a pretty noisy place, so it wasn't too bad.

The kicker came when it was time to pay. Another diner, evidently hearing our joyous singing and raucous laughter, had paid for our meal (for eight people) including multiple bottles of Tsingtao beer! He asked the server to tell us 'Merry Christmas from a fellow Christian'.

And that, dear Shipmates, is the power of Jesus at work in the world today.
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Martin PC not & Ship's Biohazard:
Is there a decent, inclusive, student infested church in Christchurch ?

I don't think there are large numbers of University students at any church in Christchurch Martin, although if you're meaning High School there are a number who attend the Anglican Cathedral. There are probably a few at St Michael and All Angels (very High Anglican) The Church I attend which is liberal Presbytarian is definately one of the more inclusive ones in Christchurch (although I'm not sure if the Presbys will yet ordain gay people). A few years ago our church was stoned due to having a gay minister.

If you're asking on behalf of anyone I can ask around as I'm a bit out of touch with what's happening at different churches since the quakes. Feel free to PM me if you have any specific questions.

Huia
 
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Martin PC not & Ship's Biohazard:
Is there a decent, inclusive, student infested church in Christchurch ?

I've quoted your interest on the facebook of a forward-looking Presby minister friend in Christchurch; hope he'll come up with something.

GG
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
Thanks, Jugular, for that little tale. It made me chuckle.

"God moves in mysterious ways, his wonders to perform" as the poet said. [Biased]

[ 16. December 2013, 21:03: Message edited by: Lothlorien ]
 
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Martin PC not & Ship's Biohazard:
Is there a decent, inclusive, student infested church in Christchurch ?

Not exactly what you asked, but this may be of interest.

GG
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
Son arrived home from hospital quite late this afternoon. Travelled by Patient Transport Ambulance because of back operation. Surgeon is very happy with back and gut will eventually settle. Now for rehab.
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
Well done Lothlorien, even if IIRC that was a bit longer than your original estimate.
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Gee D:
Well done Lothlorien, even if IIRC that was a bit longer than your original estimate.

Yes, longer than the surgeon's estimate too. That was because of the side effect of innards not working well having been placed on chest for access and then replaced. They took offence at this.

He says back is good and he is very grateful for release of pain there. Has been on very nasty cocktails of powerful drugs for months.
 
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on :
 
Good news, Lothlorien - long may it continue. [Smile]
 
Posted by Jengie Jon (# 273) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Galloping Granny:
quote:
Originally posted by Martin PC not & Ship's Biohazard:
Is there a decent, inclusive, student infested church in Christchurch ?

Not exactly what you asked, but this may be of interest.

GG

Is it just me but the name of the President is one I would expect to see in a society of a more rumbustious nature.

Jengie
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Galloping Granny:
quote:
Originally posted by Martin PC not & Ship's Biohazard:
Is there a decent, inclusive, student infested church in Christchurch ?

Not exactly what you asked, but this may be of interest.

GG

Talk about degrees of separation - I think I may be related to one of the Office holders,

Huia

[ 17. December 2013, 17:00: Message edited by: Huia ]
 
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on :
 
Talking about relations - I opened the on-line news this morning to see my mother's cousin in one of the lead stories.

He is often in the lead car in the Melbourne ANZAC marches, and at the AFL ANZAC Day matches. Amazing guy - and the same age as Mum. Some tough genes, hey.
 
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Banner Lady:
Talking about relations - I opened the on-line news this morning to see my mother's cousin in one of the lead stories.

He is often in the lead car in the Melbourne ANZAC marches, and at the AFL ANZAC Day matches. Amazing guy - and the same age as Mum. Some tough genes, hey.

God bless him and we need his story to be told! Wish the story had more coverage!
 
Posted by Vulpior (# 12744) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Huia:
I have still to hear "Evey Star shall sing a Carol" which I would love to hear again, being on dial up is sooo frustrating.

I love that carol! If your dial-up can cope with 2.5 minutes of YouTube, you can find a version here.
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
Thanks Vulpior - I will take my headphones to the library and bliss out.

Huia
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
After 110 days I finally have computer net access [Axe murder]
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Banner Lady:
At a farewell dinner last night I was sitting next to a devout baptist who at one stage said "Of course, Australia has never had a widespread spiritual revival like New Zealand did."

I obviously missed this in my Theology studies. Would anyone from across the Tasman care to enlighten me?

BL. Most intrigued.

He/she may have been referring to the NZ version charismatic renewal that of course happened both sides of the Tasman but which was probably more conspicuous in EnZed - and EnZedders often lie to think "hey/we lead the world" in more than just the sunrise. One scholar attributes the beginning of the renewal to Ray Muller, something of a bette noir in my cv, who was in the 1960s curate at my "church of origin" (I was there 20 years later), and who went on to be a leading light in the NZ version of renewal (though I would have to say there are many complexities and ambiguities in the subsequent narratives).

Or your interlocutor may have been speaking of the early 1900s renewal, in which case h/she's confused EnZed with Wales. An easy mistake to make. Except on the rugby field.

Or any other way, really. [Ultra confused]
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
Finished for the year! Well, almost, as I have some chamber work to do over the weekend and then the usual tidy-up on Monday. Christmas/New Year at home, then down the coast for a week or so before a quick trip for winter in Vienna. I might start to think about retiring this time next year, but that depends upon Madame allowing me.
 
Posted by Martin PC not & Ship's Biohazard (# 368) on :
 
Thanks Huia, Galloping Granny. Huia, where's your church?
 
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on :
 
Family packed off for a day of ministry with children at St Winfields*. I have some shopping to do, and am reorganising the shed and the garage. Oh, and have 500 words of cricket comedy to bash out at some stage.

Persian meal with Mrs C's work team tonight.

mr curly

* OUr minster no longer has his filthy habit.
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
Something happen to my post - I suspect the top of the page poster [Paranoid]

Martin, you have an email. Let me know if you don't get it.

Huia
 
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Huia:
Something happen to my post - I suspect the top of the page poster [Paranoid]

On what grounds, precisely??

mr curly
Back on Top
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
Grounds? You think I need grounds for throwing around a wild accusation? [Roll Eyes]

Vulpior thanks, it wasn't quite what I was expecting, but it was wonderful. I also discovered two more versions and a version of Dreaming Marymy current favourite hymn that made me wince, but was better than nothing.

I could get seriously addicted to uTube, but I need to find the laptop connecting cord (lost in the bedroom) first so I can use the library to listen on mine and have unlimited time, rather than using their and be restricted to an hour at a time, and no more than 2 per day.

Huia
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Huia:
Grounds? You think I need grounds for throwing around a wild accusation? [Roll Eyes]

Well said Huia! Only wimps need adequate grounds for an accusation.

Mind you, you could do what I do and just blame PeteC - works for me.
 
Posted by magnum mysterium (# 3418) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by jugular:
I thought that youse on the ship would enjoy this story most of all. Last Sunday was the first Pirate Church Christmas Special 'Away Into Danger'. As is our custom, we went out for dinner afterwards in Chinatown, at about 10pm, accompanied by some friends who had come to see the show. We ordered enough food to feed a small army, and made lots of raucous noise, including singing (in the most mocking way possible) 'Shine Jesus Shine', 'Shout to the Lord' and 'The Power of Your Love'. I mean seriously mocking, I was doing little asides about the audacity of commanding Jesus to shine as if he wasn't already, and the lesbian couple were singing 'I sing for joy at the work of your hands' to each other like a love song.

Actually, we were being a bit due and inconsiderate towards the other diners. But it was a pretty noisy place, so it wasn't too bad.

The kicker came when it was time to pay. Another diner, evidently hearing our joyous singing and raucous laughter, had paid for our meal (for eight people) including multiple bottles of Tsingtao beer! He asked the server to tell us 'Merry Christmas from a fellow Christian'.

And that, dear Shipmates, is the power of Jesus at work in the world today.

GOLD! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by DangerousDeacon (# 10582) on :
 
The Wet Season appears to have arrived, just in time for Christmas. Our Carol service was held on a somewhat warm and humid evening, until there was a tropical downpour (to coincide with a reading on angels and blessings). Fortunately, the rain cleared away before the service finished, and it was about five degrees cooler.

But it would be nice to have Christmas without a cyclone. The Christmas cyclone in 1974 gave rise to some serious remodelling afterwards.
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
I gave away a lot of baby clothes and expensive nappies (pre-disposables then ) to thee cyclone relief appeal after cyclone Tracy.

Ten months later I needed them all again.
 
Posted by DangerousDeacon (# 10582) on :
 
Hi L. Would you like me to send them back now?
[Big Grin]
 
Posted by Alban (# 9047) on :
 
Haven't posted here much before, but just wanted somewhere to vent a little after holding a dying cat, just run over on our driveway, having dashed in under the back wheel of a car fleeing from a playful, visiting dog. My kids saw it, too. And after 14 years, I'm going to miss Mia.
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by DangerousDeacon:
Hi L. Would you like me to send them back now?
[Big Grin]

[Big Grin] Not even any more grandchildren around.
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Alban:
Haven't posted here much before, but just wanted somewhere to vent a little after holding a dying cat, just run over on our driveway, having dashed in under the back wheel of a car fleeing from a playful, visiting dog. My kids saw it, too. And after 14 years, I'm going to miss Mia.

That's hard, Alban.
[Votive]
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
Oh Alban.

I'm off into the country this arvo collecting pinecones for a friend. Such a pleasant change from this morning's supermarket and Post Shop visit.
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
[Votive] [Tear] , Alban
 
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on :
 
Sorry about your cat, Alban. [Frown] [Votive]
 
Posted by rexory (# 4708) on :
 
Sorry, Alban, that's awful. Every time we have to take a cat to be euthanased it's bad; but this is, I'm sure, worse.
 
Posted by Evensong (# 14696) on :
 
[Tear] [Votive] Alban.

Cats and cars are the very devil.

[ 23. December 2013, 06:35: Message edited by: Evensong ]
 
Posted by Kittyville (# 16106) on :
 
So sorry, Alban - that's awful.
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
Some of the money from the sale of the family home has just been depositted into my bank account. I'm thinking of it as Mum and Dad's last Christmas present [Tear]

Huia
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
Hugs, Huia.

I remember going with my sister to solicitor to pick up cheques from Mum's estate. It could have been better handled there and I wasn't happy. Then to bank to deposit the cheque and home to an empty house where I felt quite bereft.

This is only a couple of years ago and direct deposit requests were refused.
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
Thanks Loth it's weird, but i didn't realise how much I was grieving, until it hit me all over again. Grief is weird.

Huia
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
Happy Christmas to yez all, antipodeans
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
Lothlorien, I think the solicitor was proper in not making a payment from his trust account via a direct debit.
 
Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on :
 
Happy Christmas, Ozzies, Kiwis, and other assorted Pacific islands.

[Axe murder]
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Gee D:
Lothlorien, I think the solicitor was proper in not making a payment from his trust account via a direct debit.

Perhaps so, but the whole thing was not handled well. Possibly because of the circumstances. The solicitor had taken over the handling of the estate after the original solicitor died suddenly. However, almost all the work had been completed.

I have no problem with her actual handling of the estate details, but personally she lacked what would be called a pleasant bedside manner in a doctor. My sister, the executor of mum's will, had had dealings with her and been satisfied. We were kept waiting well beyond appointment time and then the receptionist seemed to suddenly remember and gave us an envelope with three cheques. We even had to ask for another couple of envelopes so individual cheques could be put in them. And that was that. No real reason for an appointment time even with the way it was handled. A bit of empathy would have gone a long way.

As I found with Centrelink down the track, we should each have had a statement of settlement as I received at both divorce and sale and purchase of houses. I assumed the executor had one. No. No one had it. Centrelink contacted her about that .
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
Happy Christmas to us all (now 1.08 am)
 
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on :
 
It is just after 1am.

Christmas Eve dinner for 15 is done and so are my feet.
Happy family time was had, followed by a Nanna nap for me.
Then midnight mass at the Church with a Pond where MM and assorted musos made much delicious noise.

After being out of town for 3 years, and not having terribly fond memories of the Church with the Pond, it was challenging to go back there - but I'm glad I did. It was a service that was beautiful and bracing and possibly exactly what I needed to do.

Not that I expect I'll be in many other services where three trumpeters are playing - but all is well, the angels are singing and Christ is Born - Alleluja!
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
Jut spent a happy time reading OZNZBlog 2010 ... happy times and memories.

Now it's post liturgical nap time ...
 
Posted by Rowen (# 1194) on :
 
Ohio... Children's Service at my sister's church.... Lovely atmosphere, content, music...
I am super happy on long service leave! It is great being with my extended family.
Blessings to you folk back home, this Christmas
 
Posted by Alban (# 9047) on :
 
Good Christmas day,
Breakfast, Church and relaxing with the family, (my dad, my kids and the ex Mrs Alban and her husband). Helps you understand somewhat the value of the chaos and expense which leads up to it. Wishing the richest blessings to all shipmates.
 
Posted by Barnabas Aus (# 15869) on :
 
Coming to the end of a gentle Christmas Day, the first without our last surviving parent. Midnight Mass, then grandchildren here through the day. Traditional dinner here tonight, lubricated by sparkling shiraz. Merry Christmas to those who are also coming to the end of the day, and to those just beginning.
 
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on :
 
Rather belated I know (I was up to my ears in pre-Christmas frazzle yesterday), but merry Christmas from the far side of the planet.

[Smile]
 
Posted by comet (# 10353) on :
 
psst... Huia! empty your PM box, please!
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
Done.
 
Posted by DangerousDeacon (# 10582) on :
 
Why is every Christmas in my parishes like a bad re-enactment of the Vicar of Dibley (where Geraldine has three Christmas lunches) - though in my last parish it was three lunches in one day, here it is more like five lunches in three days. Why am I so weak in the face of the temptation of champagne, cashew nuts, good wine and fruit pudding? Why are my wonderful parishioners so generous?

These are the great mysteries of Christmas ...
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
fine mysteries to wrestle with
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
We are all weak in the face of such temptation, DD. Following the frailties of Christmas and then Boxing Day, Madame and I are now on a water and weak tea diet until Tuesday evening - when we're bankrupting ourselves to see La Bohème followed by supper at the Opera House.

And Mr Curly - how do you and the boys feel after today's result - it bodes well for the last match.
 
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Gee D:
And Mr Curly - how do you and the boys feel after today's result - it bodes well for the last match.

Somewhat amazed, but excited! I'm going with Biggest to a corporate box on Day 1 (although uncatered, it will be rather comfortable) and then taking my dad and Middle and one of his makes on Monday, to maybe see the end game. Biggest has Green Shield (U16 grade club comp) on Sunday (Penrith), Tuesday (Tunks) and Thursday (Coogee) that week, so I'll be all cricketed out.

Went to SCG for a big Bash last night for my first experience ever in the Members. It was a late night, and the home team got done over big time,

Rellies have arrived so house guests for next 2 weeks.

mr curly.
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
Finally it's stopped raining [Yipee] . I was beginning to think that I should take up boat building.
 
Posted by Arabella Purity Winterbottom (# 3434) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Huia:
Finally it's stopped raining [Yipee] . I was beginning to think that I should take up boat building.

It even bucketed down in Hawkes Bay, although the temperature stayed up, so we were hot AND sticky. Gorgeous drive back to Welly today though.
 
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on :
 
Warm in Welly; nice weather for Tony's weekly trip to the lab to have his bloods done.
Five-year-old granddaughter turned up on Skype for a story, so at last we read The Elephant's Child. One of my favourites for a read-aloud session. I hadn't noticed before that the Elephant's Child went by Graham's Town, named for a distant relative of our family (but it's not on the banks of the great grey-green greasy Limpopo River, all set about with fever trees).

GG
 
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :
 
Very pleasant here in Sydney with mild breeze. Good for revellers. I may see new year in, may not. I am often in bed before midnight on NYE. I can see a lot of fireworks from my balcony and can see more from roof garden. Not many go up there usually, It's up two flights of stairs and hip ached a lot last night. Perhaps the balcony will suffice.
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
I am so glad the year is over. Here's hoping 2014 is an improvement.

Happy New Year everyone.

Huia
 


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