Ship of Fools: 8th Day: T&T?

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Posted by ChastMastr (# 716) on :

I can't imagine being able to be a good Host, but I was wondering about whether or not there'd be interest in bringing back T&T as an 8th Day board.

Posted by Lyda*Rose (# 4544) on :

Perhaps you'd explain the concept for the sake of the relative newbies on board?

Posted by ChastMastr (# 716) on :

It stood for "Let's Talk Tits and Testicles," and it was basically about all things relating to sex.

Posted by Oscar the Grouch (# 1916) on :

I have to say that it was a very "interesting" board. And most helpful, in that it got people talking about a taboo subject. Christians aren't supposed to talk about sex, are they?

I think it's been long enough since T&T that it could be resurrected for a while.

Posted by ChastMastr (# 716) on :

Please tell me if it comes back I don't have to try to host it. I really don't think I could do it well. [Hot and Hormonal]

Posted by Marvin the Martian (# 4360) on :

quote:
Originally posted by ChastMastr:
Please tell me if it comes back I don't have to try to host it.

Well, someone will have to. If nobody volunteers this idea is going to be dead in the water.

Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on :

( sigh)

I know I just volunteered for the music board, but given that I participated in at least some of the smartassery that got the thing shut down, maybe I can redeem myself.

But you join me, Chast! Come in, I'll be your sherpa! Part if the fun is eclectic guest hosts, and you're about as eclectic as it gets!

Posted by Oscar the Grouch (# 1916) on :

I've never done this sort of thing before. And there's a part of me that wants to curl up and die rather than do this. But....

I DO think that T&T is worthy of a temporary resurrection. Therefore, I would be willing to share hosting responsibilities.

Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on :

[Yipee]

Posted by ChastMastr (# 716) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
But you join me, Chast! Come in, I'll be your sherpa! Part if the fun is eclectic guest hosts, and you're about as eclectic as it gets!

I'm honestly scared about my ability (and time!) to do it, though. [Frown]

And I feel like I'm dangerously internet-obsessed as it is (and yes, I mean that, in a genuine addictive sense).

Posted by Sioni Sais (# 5713) on :

I joined when T & T was running (I may even have contributed to its demise [Hot and Hormonal]

). It got very tangential and any temporary revival might need different, probably tighter, ToRs, than the original had.

Posted by Schroedinger's cat (# 64) on :

IIRC, T&T died because most of the subject had already been discussed. In its final year, there were 2 or 3 threads of real value, most of the others were trivial.

So I think it would work if there were a range of issues and area that have not been discussed of late. Which might be the case.

Posted by Emma Louise (# 3571) on :

I was around in the first TnT and really learnt a lot. I had been a rather "sheltered" Christian with some questionable theology.

I'm not sure it would work as well now - we're a bit more aware of our online identities/lack of anonymity/ etc. I think it was really good in its time though.

Posted by ecumaniac (# 376) on :

I'm willing to host.

I already host the BDSM private board (see sig) which, if not exactly sex-related, is certainly sex-adjacent.

I think with the very reasonable concerns about privacy, it might be good to consider some sort of mechanism whereby people could submit OPs to be posted anonymously.

Posted by Doublethink (# 1984) on :

Providing hosts are trusted, pm to hosts which is then OPd by the host ?

Posted by ecumaniac (# 376) on :

Good idea.

Posted by ChastMastr (# 716) on :

I do think that since it's been something like a decade since it was around (I remember that I'd posted on it before I met Cubby, and our eleventh anniversary was this last May [Yipee]

), then there are a lot of Shipmates who never got to experience it. (Good Lord, where does the time go?)

Posted by lilBuddha (# 14333) on :

quote:
Originally posted by ChastMastr:

quote:
Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
But you join me, Chast! Come in, I'll be your sherpa! Part if the fun is eclectic guest hosts, and you're about as eclectic as it gets!
I'm honestly scared about my ability (and time!) to do it, though. And I feel like I'm dangerously internet-obsessed as it is (and yes, I mean that, in a genuine addictive sense).

Dunno, sherpas are for scaling mountains, seems the two of you would be more interested in ascending spires...

Posted by ChastMastr (# 716) on :

I want a sherpa. Well, technically not a sherpa but a grummle. They're a very nice race of beings from World of Warcraft. More on them is here for those who care. [Smile]

Posted by Doublethink (# 1984) on :

You also need a dead horse plan. Limited discussion, no discussion, discussion of practice only etc ?

[ 04. August 2014, 07:16: Message edited by: Doublethink ]

Posted by Gracious rebel (# 3523) on :

There have actually been two previous 'runs' of T&T. The first was before I joined, but threads were still visible I think, as when it came around again, probably about 2003, I was aware of the concept.

Posted by Gracious rebel (# 3523) on :

Found it! The first run of TnT was started in March 2002, and here is the first post . There are only 2 threads from this board still showing in Limbo - apart from that one, the other was the one ChastMastr referred to, started in March 2002 and subsequently moved to Dead Horses

Posted by luvanddaisies (# 5761) on :

I think it could be interesting too. Missed it, as I joined in 2004, although I've read some of the limbo-ed threads. It could be interesting - I'd certainly read it with interest.

[ 04. August 2014, 13:57: Message edited by: luvanddaisies ]

Posted by ChastMastr (# 716) on :

Oh Erin. Saw her first post there just now. [Tear]

Um, back to the topic...

Posted by RuthW (# 13) on :

On the anonymous posting idea: the admins have had a little confab about this and decided it is not an option. Many of the Ship's 10 commandments depend upon shipmates owning their own posts, and in its earlier incarnations T&T worked just fine without anonymous posting. People shouldn't have to try to hold discussions without knowing who others' Ship identities are, and it would make calling someone to Hell problematic.

On another matter, and speaking entirely for myself, if this goes forward, I wish it would have a different name. The incongruity of "tits" and "testicles" bothered me then and it bothers me now. Breasts are secondary sex characteristics, not primary, their biological purpose is feeding the young, not producing them, and the hyper-sexualization of women's breasts is so far beyond being offensive it's ridiculous. (Though of course I suppose I could argue this on the board itself if it becomes a reality.)

Posted by Schroedinger's cat (# 64) on :

RuthW - I think you are right in terms of the name. Someone - maybe you - raised it at the time, but it was in the dying of the board anyway, so there was nothing really to do. For a resurrected board, and several years later, a better name should be chosen.

And I do think a discussion about the original name, and why that was considered acceptable by some, but not by others, would make an excellent thread.

Posted by Doublethink (# 1984) on :

Oooh names:

No Sex Please, We're Christian ?
Making Love is Harder Than You Think
Sexual Expression & Faith

Posted by MrsBeaky (# 17663) on :

Now this could be interesting/ terrifying/ highly amusing in equal measure.....

Posted by ecumaniac (# 376) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Doublethink:

[*]Sexual Expression & Faith

I like this. Does what it says on the tin.

Posted by Emma Louise (# 3571) on :

Id be really interested in the discussions. Not sure if I fall in the christian camp these days but a discussion with intelligent thoughtful people about sex and relationships would be right up my street..

Just not sure I want my many friends on the ship knowing what we get up to in the bedroom [Biased]

Posted by Doublethink (# 1984) on :

Genitals Prefer Blondes
Karma Sutra Tribute Board
21st Century Song of Solomon
Adventures in Friction
Wherefore Art Thou, Elusive O ?
Shaggable Shippies
Debauchery Discussed

Posted by Lyda*Rose (# 4544) on :

quote:
Adventures in Friction

This.

Posted by Schroedinger's cat (# 64) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Emma Louise:
Just not sure I want my many friends on the ship knowing what we get up to in the bedroom

What - you have children and are still, erm, getting up to stuff in the bedroom.....

That would be shocking.

I think we need to extend the tolerance and acceptance that is part of the ship especially to this.

Posted by Robert Armin (# 182) on :

Went to a service last night where the first reading was from the Song of Songs, and I found it hard to believe how, well, pornographic it was. My beloved's head was "wet with dew", my fingers were "dripping with myrrh", he put his hands to my latch and I trembled. How it could ever have been read in a non-sexual way beats me.

Posted by Emma Louise (# 3571) on :

Song of songs is v.definitely about sex! I think most people would acknowledge that.

S cat. It took a little hiatus in the sleep deprived year(s) but returned thankfully [Smile]

Posted by Ariel (# 58) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Robert Armin:
Went to a service last night where the first reading was from the Song of Songs, and I found it hard to believe how, well, pornographic it was. My beloved's head was "wet with dew", my fingers were "dripping with myrrh", he put his hands to my latch and I trembled. How it could ever have been read in a non-sexual way beats me.

If someone reading it isn't used to male sexual imagery, or their mind doesn't run on innuendo, it's easy to take it at face value. More true in the past than in this era. Or perhaps they might recognize it as sexual, but could hardly believe that such a thing would be in the Bible.

Anyway, you're mistaken, it's quite plain to see that it's really an allegory of God's love for his Church. [Angel]

Posted by Doublethink (# 1984) on :

Oops, that should have been 21st Century Song of Songs

Posted by lilBuddha (# 14333) on :

quote:
Originally posted by ecumaniac:

quote:
Originally posted by Doublethink:

[*]Sexual Expression & Faith
I like this. Does what it says on the tin.

So, atheists are not welcome? And non-theists only sort of?

Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Lyda*Rose:

quote:
Adventures in Friction
This.

I liked that one, too.

Posted by ChastMastr (# 716) on :

quote:
Originally posted by lilBuddha:
So, atheists are not welcome? And non-theists only sort of?

The Ship is the "Magazine of Christian Unrest" (italics mine) but as everyone is welcome here I would think everyone would be welcome on a board with the word "faith" in it... [Confused]

Posted by Oscar the Grouch (# 1916) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Ariel:

Anyway, you're mistaken, it's quite plain to see that it's really an allegory of God's love for his Church.

In which case, God appears to be a bit of a dirty old man
[Ultra confused]

Posted by ecumaniac (# 376) on :

quote:
Originally posted by lilBuddha:

quote:
Originally posted by ecumaniac:

quote:
Originally posted by Doublethink:

[*]Sexual Expression & Faith
I like this. Does what it says on the tin.
So, atheists are not welcome? And non-theists only sort of?

Um. Sexual Expression and/or Faith?

But seriously. I think every single title is going to be exclusionary in some way, but we need to recognise that by finding something short/pithy/alliterative/funny it's going to exclude some people in its words. Even if we called it "Sex", that would exclude a-sexuals or non-sexual relationships or activities which I like to call "sex-adjacent".

But in reality, if they are welcome on the Ship then they are welcome on the board.

Posted by Firenze (# 619) on :

We could just call it 'Bonkers!'

Posted by ChastMastr (# 716) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Oscar the Grouch:
In which case, God appears to be a bit of a dirty old man

Works for me. We're the Bride, after all. [Smile]

Posted by Robert Armin (# 182) on :

quote:
Originally posted by ChastMastr:

quote:
Originally posted by Oscar the Grouch:
In which case, God appears to be a bit of a dirty old man

Works for me. We're the Bride, after all.

It's years since I last read SofS. For most of that time I've been teaching adolescents, who can see dirt ANYWHERE. With ears attuned to detecting, and so avoiding, filth I could hardly believe what I was hearing!

Anyway, for a title, what about "The Second Coming"? This is a new incarnation of an old idea after all.

Posted by Curiosity killed ... (# 11770) on :

Are you being hopeful here, Robert Armin?

Posted by Robert Armin (# 182) on :

At my age hope is all that keeps me going.... [Biased]

Posted by Curiosity killed ... (# 11770) on :

[Big Grin]

Posted by Gracious rebel (# 3523) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Firenze:
We could just call it 'Bonkers!'

I like this one a lot! [Devil]

Posted by no prophet (# 15560) on :

Bonkers just means 'crazy' to my Canadian ears. Nothing to do with sex. Shag, while understood since Mike Myers did the movies as the character Austin Powers, doesn't play either.

Posted by Schroedinger's cat (# 64) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Firenze:
We could just call it 'Bonkers!'

What of those who don't.....

Maybe Bonkers and Wankers. Which covers 99% of the shipmates anyway.

Posted by Oscar the Grouch (# 1916) on :

Perhaps one of the first threads for this board might be a "lost in translation" one, whereby we can explain to one another our different euphemisms to avoid unnecessary (but often amusing) confusion.

Mrs Grouch edits books. Not so long ago, she had to edit a book written by a couple of Canadians. In it, there were a number of references to the practice of Canadians going to their holiday cottages at weekends. They referred to this, repeatedly, as "cottaging". [Eek!]

(If you don't know the UK usage for the term "cottaging", check out Wikipedia )

Posted by Hart (# 4991) on :

It's interesting both that slang here is so variable, and that any metonymic naming is taken as so strong an act of norm-claiming as to be offensive as to those who reject that norm (or any).

How about "The Birds and the Bees"?

Posted by no prophet (# 15560) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Oscar the Grouch:
In it, there were a number of references to the practice of Canadians going to their holiday cottages at weekends. They referred to this, repeatedly, as "cottaging".

(If you don't know the UK usage for the term "cottaging", check out Wikipedia )

That's crazy! We're members of a "cottaging association" if that helps. There's a phone list, we have barbeques, golf tournaments, cabarets, and fireworks (the latter for the Aug long weekend, just past). None of this will be the same again! [Biased]

Posted by Doublethink (# 1984) on :

[Killing me]

I'll never see you in quite the same way again ....

Posted by Oscar the Grouch (# 1916) on :

quote:
Originally posted by no prophet:

quote:
Originally posted by Oscar the Grouch:
In it, there were a number of references to the practice of Canadians going to their holiday cottages at weekends. They referred to this, repeatedly, as "cottaging".

(If you don't know the UK usage for the term "cottaging", check out Wikipedia )
That's crazy! We're members of a "cottaging association" if that helps. There's a phone list, we have barbeques, golf tournaments, cabarets, and fireworks (the latter for the Aug long weekend, just past). None of this will be the same again!

Well, just be careful about how you discuss all this with any one from the UK - or they may get entirely the wrong idea about you!

Posted by Doublethink (# 1984) on :

On a similar note, I seem to recall the teabaggers becoming the tea party with a certain speed.

Posted by Firenze (# 619) on :

quote:
Originally posted by no prophet:
Bonkers just means 'crazy' to my Canadian ear.

That's still its primary meaning in the UK. 'Bonking' OTOH is understood slang for sex. (I have a friend who, in lieu of a wedding anniversary, would refer to a 'bonkaversary').

So I was going for the Mildly Mad Sex angle.

Posted by RuthW (# 13) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Doublethink:
On a similar note, I seem to recall the teabaggers becoming the tea party with a certain speed.

Actually, they started off as the Tea Party, in reference to the Boston Tea Party. The term teabagger was applied to them about 15 minutes later by those of us who don't like them, but it was in fact not their original moniker.

Posted by Doublethink (# 1984) on :

OIC - reality slightly disappoints yet again.

Posted by ecumaniac (# 376) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Robert Armin:
"The Second Coming"

Posted by ChastMastr (# 716) on :

Anyone still interested in this?

Posted by lilBuddha (# 14333) on :

A bit. A naughty bit.

Posted by Brenda Clough (# 18061) on :

Oh, let's!

Posted by Doublethink (# 1984) on :

Are you volunteering to host ?

Posted by Justinian (# 5357) on :

Sounds like an interesting idea. Not necessarily a good one. But an interesting one so I'll support it. And take half a step forward to volunteer to host (i.e. if anyone else wants to, be my guest).

Posted by David (# 3) on :

Can I just say, in my defence, "Let's Talk Tits and Testicles" was a JOKE NAME for the board, and I still have no idea why Simon went for it. Maybe he could explain.

I would be more than happy - ecstatic even - if, were it to be resurrected, the name gets changed.

Also, unless I'm much mistaken, the first T&T incarnation was on the original Neoworks boards, where people could be anonymous under "Cap'n Morgan's Rules". But I'm probably much mistaken, I usually am.

Posted by Eutychus (# 3081) on :

It seems to me that this thread is turning into a reincarnation of the theme already.

Posted by Moo (# 107) on :

quote:
Originally posted by David:
Also, unless I'm much mistaken, the first T&T incarnation was on the original Neoworks boards, where people could be anonymous under "Cap'n Morgan's Rules". But I'm probably much mistaken, I usually am.

I remember a few threads on the Neoworks boards that followed Cap'n Morgan's Rules. (No one posted using their real name or their ship name.) These threads were not separate from the others; they were mixed in.

Moo

Posted by Spike (# 36) on :

quote:
Originally posted by David:

Also, unless I'm much mistaken, the first T&T incarnation was on the original Neoworks boards, where people could be anonymous under "Cap'n Morgan's Rules". But I'm probably much mistaken, I usually am.

You are very much mistaken. Both incarnations of T&T were after the move to UBB

Posted by ChastMastr (# 716) on :

I certainly posted using mine.

Posted by RuthW (# 13) on :

quote:
Originally posted by David:
Can I just say, in my defence, "Let's Talk Tits and Testicles" was a JOKE NAME for the board, and I still have no idea why Simon went for it. Maybe he could explain.

I would be more than happy - ecstatic even - if, were it to be resurrected, the name gets changed.

I will lobby hard for a different name if there is a formal proposal for the Eighth Day board.

Posted by guinness girl (# 4391) on :

I'd love to see it return - it was T&T that introduced me to the Ship when I was a green and relatively innocent 20 year old student. At the time, I was asking all kinds of questions about this sort of thing and was utterly delighted to find Christians talking about it openly. It was highly educational and entertaining and i'd be interested to discuss the same sorts of things 12 years later, with the inevitable shifts in opinions those years have wrought.

Posted by Ariel (# 58) on :

I've sometimes wondered if one reason for its name was because it could be easily abbreviated to TNT and they were hoping it would go with a bang.

(It's actually quite difficult to post to this thread without getting at least one innuendo in there.)

Posted by Doublethink (# 1984) on :

I think we should just call it Debauchery.

Posted by ChastMastr (# 716) on :

I'm still interested, just afraid of hosting.

Posted by Teufelchen (# 10158) on :

I hope no-one minds if I bump this thread by cautiously expressing interest. I missed both the previous incarnations of T&T, and it sounds like a potentially, er, fruitful area. At least in limited quantity.

t

Posted by Porridge (# 15405) on :

Oh, for pity's sake. Just change the initials: instead of T & T (& Ruth is right to object), go for the primaries: Cocks & Cunts, or Pricks & Pussies.

Though the "Friction" one is great, too.

Posted by lilBuddha (# 14333) on :

quote:
Originally posted by RuthW:
]I will lobby hard for a different name if there is a formal proposal for the Eighth Day board.

Perhaps you should start by lobbying gently, building tempo slowly, establish a rhythm, speeding the pace and finally a crashing, erm, conclusion. Some of us prefer that kind of, um, lobbying.

damn, now I need a piece of chocolate or something

Posted by RuthW (# 13) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Porridge:
Oh, for pity's sake. Just change the initials: instead of T & T (& Ruth is right to object), go for the primaries: Cocks & Cunts, or Pricks & Pussies.

Though the "Friction" one is great, too.

It needs to be safe for work. The original name, "Let's Talk Tits and Testicles," was shortened to T&T because having the original title appear in big letters was problematic for people looking at the Ship's boards at work, in public libraries and the like.

Posted by Gill H (# 68) on :

I remember when Ecclesiantics was being suggested (being a merger of two existing boards, one a high church hangout and the other an alt-worship one) I suggested 'Let's talk Tat 'n' Tealights' but fortunately that one didn't get through.

Posted by Karl: Liberal Backslider (# 76) on :

There were definitely T&T type discussions under Cap'n Morgan's Rules before UBB, although T&T itself came later.

I'd lobby for some kind of anonymity being possible, or at least separation from one's regular board name. There are aspects of this topic that one might want to discuss without being Out. I remember the Cap'n Morgan's threads being better than the later T&T (nostalgia ain't what it used to be and all that notwithstanding) and that may have been the reason. You're not going to want to spend the rest of your ship life known as the person who asked whether anyone else found particular comfort in being tickled with wet string.

Posted by Ariel (# 58) on :

It's probably too late for that. Years later, I still have indelible memories of some of the revelations.

It would attract quite a lot of people reading and considerably fewer posting. I also think the demographic has changed in the intervening years and doubt there would be that many posting to it now.

Posted by Doc Tor (# 9748) on :

quote:
Originally posted by RuthW:

quote:
Originally posted by Porridge:
Oh, for pity's sake. Just change the initials: instead of T & T (& Ruth is right to object), go for the primaries: Cocks & Cunts, or Pricks & Pussies.

Though the "Friction" one is great, too.
It needs to be safe for work. The original name, "Let's Talk Tits and Testicles," was shortened to T&T because having the original title appear in big letters was problematic for people looking at the Ship's boards at work, in public libraries and the like.

The obvious initialising is O&O, for Orchids and Ovaries. (Orchis is greek for testicle. But you knew that, right?)

Besides, O&O looks like my teenage daughter's expression when she listens to I'm Sorry I Haven't A Clue.

Posted by Marvin the Martian (# 4360) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Karl: Liberal Backslider:
I'd lobby for some kind of anonymity being possible, or at least separation from one's regular board name.

The only way I can think of for that to happen is if we gave everyone who wanted to post to it a second login identity. And, frankly, that ain't gonna happen.

Posted by Alan Cresswell (# 31) on :

Capn Morgans Rule worked on Neoworks because it was very easy to change the displayed name associated with each post. With UBB it would need an additional registration just for posting on that board for the one or two posts that required that separate identity. That would put work for the admins to approve those sockpuppets - we would need to know those ids, and in this instance close them down after the end of any 8D experiment.

I recall (my memory may be faulty) that on previous runs of T&T there had been discussions of allowing the hosts to make anonymous posts on behalf of others (eg: PM the host with what you'd want to share and they post that as a quote from "Mr X"). I can't remember whether or not we actually decided to do that, I'm fairly certain that it never happened and in the end people either shared what they wanted under their own screenname, or decided it wasn't worth sharing.

Posted by Firenze (# 619) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Ariel:
I also think the demographic has changed in the intervening years and doubt there would be that many posting to it now.

Yes, I think I'm into the Ballymena answer to 'what do you do about sex?' - 'We huv wur tea'.

Posted by Alan Cresswell (# 31) on :

I read that as "Ballamory" at first. That would make quite a story, and get a few letters written!

Posted by Teufelchen (# 10158) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:
I read that as "Ballamory" at first. That would make quite a story, and get a few letters written!

My newish role as a parent makes me much more susceptible to this sort of thing.

t

Posted by Jemima the 9th (# 15106) on :

When Children A&B were tiny, and Balamory was on the telly all the bleedin' time, some mummy friends and I had great fun imagining what all the characters got up to.

Sleep deprivation does weird things to you.

Posted by Gill H (# 68) on :

I know one of the cast. I could tell you some stories...

Posted by Spike (# 36) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Gill H:
I know one of the cast. I could tell you some stories...

I'm sure you could, but please do so in Heaven and we'll keep this thread for discussion about the 8th Day board.

Ta muchly

Spike
Styx host

Posted by Karl: Liberal Backslider (# 76) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:
Capn Morgans Rule worked on Neoworks because it was very easy to change the displayed name associated with each post. With UBB it would need an additional registration just for posting on that board for the one or two posts that required that separate identity. That would put work for the admins to approve those sockpuppets - we would need to know those ids, and in this instance close them down after the end of any 8D experiment.

I recall (my memory may be faulty) that on previous runs of T&T there had been discussions of allowing the hosts to make anonymous posts on behalf of others (eg: PM the host with what you'd want to share and they post that as a quote from "Mr X"). I can't remember whether or not we actually decided to do that, I'm fairly certain that it never happened and in the end people either shared what they wanted under their own screenname, or decided it wasn't worth sharing.

Or belonged elsewhere...

It might well be a bit of a damp squib because of this however.

Posted by Sioni Sais (# 5713) on :

Pardon my ignorance, but what is Capn Morgan's Rule? On t'interweb I only get links to Captain Morgan's Rum.

I could make a guess but I'm sure I'd get it slightly wrong.

Posted by Karl: Liberal Backslider (# 76) on :

In ye olde dayes before UBB, it was possible to change ones display name when posting.

This was mostly considered naughty and resulted in a trip to the Head's Office with newspaper stuffed down the trousers, but was allowed on threads that were declared to be under "Cap'n Morgan's Rules".

Posted by Sioni Sais (# 5713) on :

Thanks Karl.

Posted by duchess (# 2764) on :

T&T shocked me greatly when it came out years ago. I was shocked by the name, my Christian sensibilities just couldn't stand it. I had my rounds with the late, great Erin in some posts and I like to think I am a better person for it.

I rather am found of the old name for that reason. But we should move on into the present. I can see that I am stuck in the past.

This captures my feelings about T&T:

Inside everyone hides one desire
Out side no one would know
Danger close to the edge of the knife
Safer not to let go

And while
We miss chances
You can almost hear
Time slipping away

Go West - We Close Our Eyes Lyrics

[edited shady spelling]

[ 24. January 2015, 17:54: Message edited by: duchess ]

Posted by Ariel (# 58) on :

What would be the reasons for reviving this board?

Posted by Horseman Bree (# 5290) on :

Perhaps some people enjoy talking about sex?

Posted by Ariel (# 58) on :

Precisely. YMMV, but personally I don't think it's either appropriate or wise to discuss your sex life on the internet.

Posted by Schroedinger's cat (# 64) on :

The point about T&T as it was is that it is not just talking about sex, it is about exploring and discussion around sexual issues.

Talking about your sex life is not justification for a board. Discussion of sexual habits and practices might be, if there are enough who want to participate.

Posted by Marvin the Martian (# 4360) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Ariel:
Precisely. YMMV, but personally I don't think it's either appropriate or wise to discuss your sex life on the internet.

"Appropriate" and "wise" aren't really essential requirements for an Eighth Day experimental board. If enough people seem to want it we'll give them the chance for a few weeks.

Posted by Chorister (# 473) on :

I personally wouldn't want to post anything which would make me want to change my name from my usual SoF name. But if people do, couldn't a temporary amnesty, for the duration of the board, be granted? Two similar situations spring to mind - firstly the nativity play, where people were given special names in order to take part; secondly when I celebrated 10,000 posts and many people changed their name to a musical one, for the duration. I don't think either of those examples was during the time of the old boards, but I may be wrong.

Posted by Alan Cresswell (# 31) on :

The Nativity Play did involve a lot of people taking on a second registration. It was a special one-off for which the admins created a load of new ids, and then after the end of the play they were all locked again. The other exception from Commandment 10 "one identity per member" are special identities some MWers use, so they can comment on discussions of their reports using the same name they MW under, rather than linking their MW identity with their Ship name. The Admins have a couple of socks as well.

It would require a considerable case to be made by anyone willing to organise an 8th Day board on sexuality to convince us that the work involved in a further exemption from C10 is justified. So far, nothing approaching such a case has been made on this thread.

The name changes during your 10,000th post celebration (and, similar events when others reached that milestone) were simply changes people made within their own profiles (it may have been before we stopped name changes, or there may have been an amnesty for it). That's not going to work for making anonymous posts on a sex related board - if you change your name to "Mrs X" to post there then all your other posts would be changed to say "Mrs X", and when you change your name back again then those posts on that board would carry the name Chorister.

Posted by Amorya (# 2652) on :

Another board I'm on has a policy that if you want to post something anonymous on their sex/relationships board, you can PM an admin and they'll post your text.

You can only do this to start a new thread, or to comment on a thread that you started in such a way — it's designed to let people post their personal details an an opening post in order to solicit advice, and then respond to any such advice.

It could be worth coming up with a compromise like that?

(I personally don't think I'd use it though…)

Posted by Alan Cresswell (# 31) on :

As I said a few days ago, that was at least proposed for the T&T board (though, PM a host of the board rather than an admin). I'm almost certain no one did so.

Posted by Snags (# 15351) on :

Re. naming, should this happen, in Another Place I was once party to a 'board' titled "Let's Talk About ...", usually shortened to LTA, as a reference to the song Let's Talk About Sex (Baby).

Which probably says more about the age of the people who participated in that venue, to be fair, but whilst it lacks immediate humour and is mildly obscure, it is at least worksafe.

Posted by no prophet's flag is set so... (# 15560) on :

May a proposed board be broader that just sex? Like social issues and gender, feminism etc?

Posted by Alan Cresswell (# 31) on :

Of course you may suggest a different board. To avoid confusion, start a new thread.

Posted by no prophet's flag is set so... (# 15560) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:
Of course you may suggest a different board. To avoid confusion, start a new thread.

Sorry if not clear. I wasn't suggesting a new board. Rather, asking about boundaries of this proposal. I discern the answer from your response. Thank-you.

Posted by Alan Cresswell (# 31) on :

Ah, I see. It did look a bit like a suggestion for a different proposal rather than a variation on what has so far been raised here.

The subject matter of any board will be something that those stepping up to host the board will need to decide, taking into account discussion here as the idea is fleshed out.

So, if a small group of people step forward to host a board and help with defining the subject matter, procedures etc they can, if they wish, broaden the scope. If you want to volunteer as a host that would give your views a bit more weight than if you just stand on the sidelines making suggestions - and, it increases the chances of a board happening (because no hosts = no board).

Posted by Marvin the Martian (# 4360) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Amorya:
Another board I'm on has a policy that if you want to post something anonymous on their sex/relationships board, you can PM an admin and they'll post your text.

If the Hosts of an 8D board wish to include such a provision in their proposal (and do the anonymous posting themselves) then I don't see any problem. It's not something I'd agree to do myself though, and though I can't speak for them I doubt any of the other Admins would want to be involved either.

Posted by lilBuddha (# 14333) on :

So you would have to find an admin you both trust and not care they knew you could only orgasm whilst suspended upside-down with a turkey baster full of chantily cream inserted into your left nostril....

Posted by Alan Cresswell (# 31) on :

No, you would find a host for the [whatever name chosen] board. If the hosts of the board decide it's something they want for their board.

Posted by lilBuddha (# 14333) on :

Point still stands. Whatever you post will not be truly anonymous. Someone will know that which you would rather nobody knew.
No concern of mine, I don't have any extremes in this and tend to be on the conservative side, sharing wise.

Posted by Tubbs (# 440) on :

quote:
Originally posted by lilBuddha:
Point still stands. Whatever you post will not be truly anonymous. Someone will know that which you would rather nobody knew.
No concern of mine, I don't have any extremes in this and tend to be on the conservative side, sharing wise.

True, but the number of people who know it's you will be reduced to one or two. It'll come down to how much people trust whoever ends up Hosting. (If anyone ever does, as so far I don't think I saw any actual volunteers)

Tubbs

Posted by Mrs Shrew (# 8635) on :

I've been watching this thread with some interest. I think it would be a good board to have for 8th day, so I will volunteer to host, if sufficient hosts can be found (and, indeed, if I'm deemed suitable host material)

Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on :

It occurs to me I volunteered to help host back on page 1 of this thread. Offer still stands.

Posted by Mrs Shrew (# 8635) on :

I'm in the process of writing a proposal for this board. I will pm all people who have expressed interest in hosting it in the next day or so.

Posted by ChastMastr (# 716) on :

So what's the next iteration of 8th Day going to be? Does anyone know yet?

Posted by Mrs Shrew (# 8635) on :

I believe the queue thread says it is Silence. I think then music next but can't remember if that one has been agreed yet. We'd potentially be up in the summer if approved, I would imagine. Still working on proposal.

Posted by ChastMastr (# 716) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Mrs Shrew:
I believe the queue thread says it is Silence.

I'm sorry, I'm just imagining a thread like, well, this:

quote:
Originally posted by Mrs Shrew:
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quote:
Originally posted by ChastMastr:
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quote:
Originally posted by ANY NAME HERE:
. . .

Posted by LeRoc (# 3216) on :

Sssh!

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