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Posted by St Everild (# 3626) on :
 
Having looked for (and failed to find) the other thread, I thought I would start again...

Rather like my diet. I lost 56 lbs with Weight Watchers eighteen months ago, but a broken ankle, continuing issues related to that and general sloth have seen me regain 30 lbs...which needs to come off as I decluttered most of my "fat" clothes and as a consequence, have nothing to wear although my drawers and cupboards are full.

Anyone else?
 
Posted by Boogie (# 13538) on :
 
I have given up chocolate for January. So far so good.

I have a stone to lose and am still working hard at it.

[Smile]
 
Posted by Amanda B. Reckondwythe (# 5521) on :
 
I seem to have spent my entire adult life needing to lose 30 pounds. Having lost it, I soon find myself needing to lose it again. That's where I am at the moment. Atkins Diet, here I come (again!).
 
Posted by Sipech (# 16870) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Boogie:
I have given up chocolate for January. So far so good.

I have a stone to lose and am still working hard at it.

[Smile]

I read that 3 seconds after I put a bourbon biscuit in my mouth.

I am not doing as well as you.
 
Posted by Piglet (# 11803) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Amanda B. Reckondwythe:
... Atkins Diet, here I come (again!).

I rather envy people who can get on with the Atkins diet - I tried it but found that while I loved the steaks, duck in cream and red-wine sauce (drool) and so forth, I really missed the potatoes to mop the sauce up with, and ended up getting nowhere.

All that happened was that D. put on weight, which wasn't the desired outcome ... [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Amanda B. Reckondwythe (# 5521) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Piglet:
I rather envy people who can get on with the Atkins diet - I tried it but found that while I loved the steaks, duck in cream and red-wine sauce (drool) and so forth, I really missed the potatoes to mop the sauce up with.

Well, that's the problem. I love the bacon and eggs for breakfast, but what are eggs without a slice of toast to soak up the yolk? I rationalize by telling myself that toast is only 12 grams of carbohydrates, but when you're limited to 15 grams per day, that's pretty much that.
 
Posted by Brenda Clough (# 18061) on :
 
My doctor has denounced me as pre-diabetic, which means I =must= lose weight. By titanic effort I was able to keep from gaining more than two pounds over the holidays, ordinarily a very bad time indeed. If I can lose ten pounds I should be in good train to avoid major medical intervention.
My plan is to work through all the holiday cookies and chocolates. Otherwise they will be wasted! But I will not buy any more. Instead I will switch to nuts and berries. And it's salad for lunch, from now until spring.
 
Posted by Sarasa (# 12271) on :
 
I've managed to loose a stone on the 5:2 diet over the last thirteen months. It's been a bit up and down as I've given myself a break every few weeks, but certainly the easist and most successful diet I've done.

I've put on three pounds over the holidays, but hope those come off quickly now I'm back on the diet.
 
Posted by Heavenly Anarchist (# 13313) on :
 
I'm back on the 5:2 as well, after a break. I also find it the easiest diet to do, and that the extreme calorie counting on 2 days makes me more aware of what I eat on the others.
 
Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :
 
I've decided I'm more worried about my fitness and general health than my weight per se, but my weight is impacting negatively on both.

So my New Year's resolution is to lose weight, and to give me a focus I posted my weight (16 stone 5lb) on FB on 31st Dec and resolved to post it on the last day of each month in 2015.

My main aim is to enjoy the process. So far I've enjoyed four good walks (yesterday's was up a hill with glorious views from the top) and tried two new exercise classes.

I haven't counted calories at all, yet, but have been trying to aim for positive food choices and to think about what I'm eating.
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Brenda Clough:
My plan is to work through all the holiday cookies and chocolates. Otherwise they will be wasted! But I will not buy any more. Instead I will switch to nuts and berries. And it's salad for lunch, from now until spring.

Depends on your definition of 'waist-ed', Brenda! [Killing me]

I have given myself a target of losing 12 pounds in 12 months, which should be achievable. Sadly this would appear to be the same 12 pounds I have been trying to shift unsuccessfully all my adult life [Devil]

Still, I always think dieting (though that isn't a word I like to use) is a bit like the Christian life - there is always a new day, a new beginning, so we should never give up [Smile]

(wow, does that sound pretentious or what?!)

Mrs. S - salad for lunch since about 1995
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by North East Quine:
So my New Year's resolution is to lose weight, and to give me a focus I posted my weight (16 stone 5lb) on FB on 31st Dec and resolved to post it on the last day of each month in 2015.

My main aim is to enjoy the process. So far I've enjoyed four good walks (yesterday's was up a hill with glorious views from the top) and tried two new exercise classes.

Sorry for the double post, but that's very brave, NEQ (sounds like 'Yes, Minister' - 'a bold decision, Minister'. Also sounds like a good approach, to enjoy what you have to do to lose the weight.

Good luck to all of us [Overused]

Mrs. S, pudgy but unbowed
 
Posted by Sarasa (# 12271) on :
 
I think one of the reasons I put on weight over the holidays was lack of exercise. Yes I did eat more than I usually do, but not the sort of pig-outs I remember from my earlier years. However I wasn't commuting, did lots of travelling by car and wasn't running up and down stairs which I seem to do a lot off when I'm at work.
 
Posted by Brenda Clough (# 18061) on :
 
Last holidays I gained weight because I visited my family, who are all California food fiends. This year we visited my sister-in-law, who is pursuing a Paleo diet. Necessarily, we ate a great deal less, and this was good.
Today I weighed 1 lb. less than yesterday. This surely is not significant. I do not want to become like Bridget Jones, recording miniscule weight fluctuations.
 
Posted by Carex (# 9643) on :
 
My wife and I have both resolved to lose weight by Summer, though only a modest amount. Based on what an acquaintance did years ago, we are plotting weight vs. time on a sheet of graph paper, with a straight line drawn between our current weight and our target at the end of the period. As long as we are below the line we can eat anything we want, but when we are over it we have to eat fewer calories (the details of which we haven't worked out yet.)

As a result, we can eat whatever we want as long as we are keeping on target. The weight loss becomes the focus, allowing more flexibility in diet, exercise, etc. we use to achieve it.

Of course I haven't weighed myself since I started...
 
Posted by Dormouse (# 5954) on :
 
we are restarting 5:2 - I don,t follow it religiously (I probably consume more like 700 calories on fast days) but it certainly helps. But we find our tastes haven't changed: chocolate, bikkies etc are still too popular, and salads, veggies,fruit less so!
 
Posted by RuthW (# 13) on :
 
I signed up for Weight Watchers online in mid-November with the intention of maintaining my weight through the holidays and beginning real weight loss this month. I ended up losing 2 pounds by New Year's, which surprised me. I will find out Monday if the first week of actually trying is working.
 
Posted by To The Pain (# 12235) on :
 
I'm not sure if am relieved or frustrated to have put on 1.5kilos over the holidays. Probably, like Sarasa, it was the lack of exercise as I did an awful lot less than my normal daily life entails - family are a lot more dependent on their cars and things like that.

I've been monitoring my intake/output somewhat sporadically using Fitday for the past couple of months, and there is a general downward trend that I am trying to maintain. It is frustrating to be almost back at the weight I was back in 2010. This may mark the fact that for the past three years I have been living with a woman who can walk past an open packet of biscuits for weeks. I have no such self-control. So I am aiming for a slow descent to 80kilos and to see how I go after that. At my lightest I was 72kilos but that was a bit low for me to be comfortable. I hovered around 77kilos for quite a while and that seemed more like a size and shape I like to be.

I rather enjoyed being a little lighter - it made my major hobby (Scottish Country Dancing) more enjoyable and life that little bit easier. I now have a very short walking commute and since buying a car use my bicycle much less. Said bicycle has also got rather knackered, so the incentive to ride it anywhere is lessened. One of my goals for the summer is to have a new bicycle to use for more routine journeys.

And at the end of last summer my girlfriend and I started taking advantage of the subsidised gym membership that our employer offers. It's brilliant. I never thought I could get along with going to the gym, but I find myself enjoying it and wanting to go. We are aiming for a typical week involving...

In the warmer months last year we managed to get to and from Friday and Saturday's gymming on our tandem so we should get it serviced before the weather warms up again. Here goes!

[ETA - correct attribution]

[ 12. January 2015, 09:49: Message edited by: To The Pain ]
 
Posted by Beethoven (# 114) on :
 
A few years ago I lost 2 1/2 stone, and got down to a size and shape I was very happy with. Then the summer holidays came along, I stopped running, never quite started again in September, and have gradually fallen back into old habits. Two stone have returned. Time to serve them with an eviction notice, as later this year I have the most fantastic short break booked, at which I will want to be able to dress up for dinner properly - and my nicest dresses are a size or two down from where I currently am. So I'm now trying to summon up the willpower to eat sensibly, and pick up the running again... The running's the easy bit, comparatively, which says something about my love of food! *sigh*
 
Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :
 
And now I have another incentive to lose that 12 lb - we've just booked a fortnight's sailing holiday in Greece at the end of August [Yipee]

We're going with friends and I do not want to look like the fat girl with the thin friend [Help]

Now if I can only finish up this Christmas cake and lebkuchen I can get started...

Mrs. S, doubtfully eyeing her bathing cossie
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
The problem with living in what is basically a guesthouse is that there are always snacks lying about...

I got up to 80 kilos and started doing long walks morning and evening and I was doing well then Pete arrived and he and I walk twice a day but not far as the wheelchair is quite slow and it is tough to get myself out again after dark for more vigorous exercise.

Must be strong. Must avoid the snacks.

But...
 
Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :
 
I've had some sort of tummy bug / gastric flu thing which has shifted several pounds in the last four days, though presumably it's temporary and will go back up once I'm eating normally again.

I do not recommend this method of weight loss.
 
Posted by Amanda B. Reckondwythe (# 5521) on :
 
It's impossible for me to do anything until the weekend, as my birthday is coming up (my 70th -- a milestone!). But after that, Lent will begin early for me this year. I'm determined to lose a meaningful amount (I won't say how much lest I risk disappointment) before Easter.
 
Posted by geroff (# 3882) on :
 
We did 5:2 for six months last year and I lost 4.5 kilos (I don't do pounds) but put it all back on in the subsequent 6 months due to stress etc. So here we are starting again - we know this works we just need to keep at it.
it is most successful when we use the yummy recipes in 'The Fast Diet Recipe Book' by Mimi Spencer. i.e. Vietnamese Sea Bass or Balsamic Glazed vegetables. But it is also a good idea to have weekly menus and shopping lists. We are on a 4 week rotation with weekend specials (including restaurants) and some veggie options. Somehow this all works really well in Winter but not summer. [Ultra confused]
 
Posted by crunt (# 1321) on :
 
I'm 50 now, and I've always been thin, but as soon as I hit my 40s I really started packing on the pounds. I got up to something horrendous, like 115 kg or something, but I hadn't even noticed!
Anyway, moving to another continent was enough of a jolt to halt the increase, even reverse it a bit, but I was still overweight. I've moved again (same continent, though), and I have been counting calories on and off for the past couple of years. I'm 'off again' with the calorie counting since before Xmas, but I'm happy to report that the weight is staying off. At 184 cm I am weighing in at 90kg. Like most fat people I have Very Big Bones, so I weigh heavier than I look.
I'd like to weigh 84kg because someone told me that your weight in kilos should match the the last two digits of your centimeter height. I scoff at the BMI calculation, but I kind of like the easy symmetry of the height / weight numbers.
The best thing I did, was to stop buying cartons of fruit and vegetable juice. I never really liked sodas all that much, but I've replaced the fruit drinks with sparkling mineral water and nice cordials (like barley water and stuff). I usually just drink plain hot tea in restaurants to make up for the extra calories that come with commercially prepared dishes.
I like what other people are saying about it being about health rather than weight, but I find the better I feel about myself, the more I want to jump on the scale for confirmation. Surprisingly, I'm sometimes disappointed to be feeling good, but be weighing in at more than I expected.
 
Posted by Amanda B. Reckondwythe (# 5521) on :
 
Well, last night was the last of my birthday celebrations, so today (in theory at least) is the first day of Lent. Except that I've got cake and ice cream left over, not to mention wine.
 
Posted by Piglet (# 11803) on :
 
Many happy returns, ABR! [Yipee]

You've got another three weeks before Lent ... [Devil]
 
Posted by Amanda B. Reckondwythe (# 5521) on :
 
Tomorrow is my neighbor across the way's birthday. I can give her and her husband each a slice of the cake and that will finish it. But I admit that I will finish the ice cream myself. Then Lent.
 
Posted by To The Pain (# 12235) on :
 
Well, that last couple of weeks we have nearly managed to meet the plan, with a few lapses regarding the alarm clock. Making those up with weekend ceilidhs has seen me drop a kilo though, so I'm happy with that - especially as last week included two meals out, one of which was a fish supper. I'll leave it a few days after this weekend's two Burns' Suppers before I check again!

Work has been stressful lately for everyone in our house, so the gym sessions help to burn off some of the frustration. The trick then is to be good about the food we eat too.
 
Posted by Brenda Clough (# 18061) on :
 
I went to a biometric screening in early December, and got the result that I am prediabetic. I panicked, and immediately began cutting food items. As advised however I went to my doctor for a more definitive test. And it turns out I am not prediabetic! But I am still a little plump. Perhaps it will do me no harm to give up cake and cookies.
 
Posted by tessaB (# 8533) on :
 
I'm probably the fattest person on this thread, I weighed in at about 19stone at the end of November last year. Then I got pancreatitis, in hospital for a week and put on a low fat diet by the doctor as he was worried it was caused by gallstones. I now weigh 17 stone [Yipee]
I really would not recommend pancreatitis as a weight loss method (far too bloody painfull) but the really low fat diet is wonderful. I'm hoping to lose another couple of stone before summer so will be encouraged by this thread.
 
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Brenda Clough:
I went to a biometric screening in early December, and got the result that I am prediabetic. I panicked, and immediately began cutting food items. As advised however I went to my doctor for a more definitive test. And it turns out I am not prediabetic! But I am still a little plump. Perhaps it will do me no harm to give up cake and cookies.

I am not a medical professional, merely someone who didn't listen or totally understand when my then doctor said I was pre-diabetic. I realise this is probably a bit hypocritical of me, but if you could be heading that way in the future please do all you can now to head it off. As you probably know it can have very nasty complications and the medication is foul.

I wish I understood then what I know now.

Huia - the not very bright.
 
Posted by comet (# 10353) on :
 
Hi all!

Last summer I lost 37 lbs, and my goal this winter has been to just (please!) not gain it back. I tend towards a much more slothful living during the stormy season.

During the holidays my jeans got a little (aka very) tight, so I'm force-feeding myself fruit and veg, which fills me up before I can inhale entire cakes. It helps.

I've also started up on IF (it's a slightly different take on 5:2) and the jeans are slowly releasing their death grip, so I think I'm doing okay. If I can actually START the summer where my last ended, I'll be the winner!

I'd like to drop at least another 3 jeans sizes and firm up my ginormous butt, but that's long term. This winter: just no lost ground!
 
Posted by Heavenly Anarchist (# 13313) on :
 
That really is an amazing weight loss, comet.

I've lost about 6-7 pounds over the last month so I'm pleased with that. I've found the one of my fast days makes up for any weekend excesses whereas the second day of fasting loses me a pound in weight so I expect a steady loss of 1 pound a week. But I'm hoping that by increasing my exercise I can lose another pound a week so I'm now wearing a pedometer and going for regular walks to do my 8000 steps a day alongside my yoga practice. My lifestyle is generally sedentary as I work from home and can't do any impact exercise due to arthritis but I do like walking as I don't drive anyway.
 
Posted by To The Pain (# 12235) on :
 
Ugh,

Nasty cold for Beloved and general laziness has lead to a gain last week.

The BBC tells me that I am predominantly a Constant Craver, with a fair amount of Feaster thrown in for good measure. Apparently this means that I should try the whole intermittent fasting/5:2/calorie cycling thing, focussing on high-protein, low-GI foods. I'm just curious about the practicalities - how do shippies that use these tactics decide what will be a good fast day or deal with sharing mealtimes with someone who is slender and has the self-control to leave a mouthful or two on their plate if they've had enough?

Beloved also requires a certain amount of stodge, which I was largely avoiding when I previously lost weight. Hmm, perhaps I have just answered my own question - when there is rice/pasta/potatoes on offer I should pass or only have a very small serving. I don't know how Beloved will feel about being solely responsible for consuming the potatoes in our fortnightly veg delivery, but I think it's understood that I am not happy about my recent gains.
 
Posted by Heavenly Anarchist (# 13313) on :
 
I have a husband with a healthy appetite and two growing boys and was keen that my fasting didn't disrupt family mealtimes. On fast days I make a dish like curry or casserole with plenty of protein and veg and serve mine without an accompanying carb. I don't eat any carbs on fast days at all.
I have found fasting has helped me realise that I don't need to snack. When I first started fasting I had 2 meals (protein and salad for lunch, main meal in the evening) but now I fast all day until the evening meal without any temptation.
 
Posted by Boogie (# 13538) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by comet:


I've also started up on IF (it's a slightly different take on 5:2) and the jeans are slowly releasing their death grip, so I think I'm doing okay. If I can actually START the summer where my last ended, I'll be the winner!


Yay! [Yipee]
 
Posted by geroff (# 3882) on :
 
To The Pain - 5:2 has only worked when we both do the Fast Day at the same time. The fast day needs to be in the week on a routine day, when there is no likelihood of having office meeting in a pub, and never consecutive days. That makes it Tuesday and Thursday for us. NEVER go food shopping on a fast day, especially if you are prone to grazing. Also don't watch food programmes on TV. We are usually better at this when we have stuff to do in the evenings - which is the worst part of the fast day.
But I think I lost weight because of the effect that planning what we eat means that you also cut down on fatty foods on the other days too. Give it a go - see my previous post for a really good book with tasty food.
Until this diet came along I hated the idea of dieting because the books always seemed to be written by people who didn't like food.
 
Posted by crunt (# 1321) on :
 
It was the 5:2 fast that got me into calorie counting. My mum told me about it, and I thought I'd give it a go as I was overweight and I don't like 'dieting'.
700 calories was killing me (especially in the evenings), and on my fast days I'd dream of what I could do with 1800 cals (my required intake at that time for weight loss for someone my height and weight). So I quit the 5:2 and restricted myself to 1800 cals a day, but I averaged it out over a week, so if I had a restaurant meal one day in the week I could easily balance it out the next day - or the day before - at home. I developed a routine of eating fewer calories Mon-Thu, then on the weekends in the big city I could use up my 'reserve' on treats. I did it on and off, but mostly 'on' for a few years. I have stopped calorie counting since Sept/Oct last year,
but it's working out OK because I have more or less dropped the habit of overeating for the 'numm' (I still eat things because they're delicious - but not so much) and I have, obviously, developed much more awareness of food values. One item that I have completely dropped from my grocery shopping is commercial fruit and vegetable drinks - and that has made a HUGE difference to my calorie intake for very little sacrifice.
The 5:2 is definitely a great way to (a) lose weight and (b) develop food awareness.
 
Posted by To The Pain (# 12235) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by geroff:
To The Pain - 5:2 has only worked when we both do the Fast Day at the same time. The fast day needs to be in the week on a routine day, when there is no likelihood of having office meeting in a pub, and never consecutive days. That makes it Tuesday and Thursday for us. NEVER go food shopping on a fast day, especially if you are prone to grazing. Also don't watch food programmes on TV. We are usually better at this when we have stuff to do in the evenings - which is the worst part of the fast day.
But I think I lost weight because of the effect that planning what we eat means that you also cut down on fatty foods on the other days too. Give it a go - see my previous post for a really good book with tasty food.
Until this diet came along I hated the idea of dieting because the books always seemed to be written by people who didn't like food.

Thanks geroff, that's really useful experience. I'm on my first fast day today and I think it will work out OK - Wednesdays are generally a day when we have very little time in the house so I'm planning to pick up one of those Innocent veg pots or a generic equivalent to eat just before my dance class. A hot cross bun for breakfast might not have been the best idea, but I'm doing OK so far and will fill up on peppermint tea this lunchtime.

Picking a second day might be trickier, but if I can have a huge plate of vegetables while Beloved adds carbs then perhaps a Monday could work, that's another day when I have an evening activity.

How does everyone find physical activity on fast days? I mostly teach the Wednesday dance class so it isn't as intense as it would be if I was attending, and my Monday activity is a Pilates class so doesn't get me out of puff but is a good workout. If I have had something to eat in the hour or two preceding these, am I likely to find myself feeling light-headed?

I have been insufficiently motivated to get up for morning gymming lately. Should do that tomorrow as it's the last real chance for the week.
 
Posted by Heavenly Anarchist (# 13313) on :
 
I do a rather active 90 min Iyengar yoga session on one of my fast days having only consumed a skinny latte but as I do not breakfast normally I would do that even on a non-fast day. My mobility issues mean I don't do any impact exercise but I go for hour long walks on fast days and so on.
I never feel faint on fast days and I don't eat all until the evening meal. The only time I have ever felt faint was once on the day after a fast when I rushed out into the snow for the school run without even a coffee and hit a freezing cold temperature. The shock of that on my system made me realise I needed to eat.

[ 11. February 2015, 13:18: Message edited by: Heavenly Anarchist ]
 
Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :
 
I saw a display of very low calorie "pasta" in a health food shop yesterday. It's made of juroat, a mixture of konjac flour and oat fibre.

I thought I'd google, but google is just giving me dozens of sites selling the stuff.

Anyone tried it? I have a feeling that if it sounds too good to be true, it is too good to be true.
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
Wandering around town this morning it occurred to me that the secret of weight-loss is getting Himself and Herself to cook really boring, uninteresting, tasteless food - but decided that it is probably a step too far!


[edited to add a few words so that it made a semblance of sense]

[ 12. February 2015, 07:01: Message edited by: Welease Woderwick ]
 
Posted by Kittyville (# 16106) on :
 
NEQ - you might be better using a julienne peeler or a spiralizer and making "pasta" from courgettes or carrots. All the rage down here at the mo, and dare I say it, nay bad.

[ 12. February 2015, 10:45: Message edited by: Kittyville ]
 
Posted by Sioni Sais (# 5713) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by North East Quine:
I saw a display of very low calorie "pasta" in a health food shop yesterday. It's made of juroat, a mixture of konjac flour and oat fibre.

I thought I'd google, but google is just giving me dozens of sites selling the stuff.

Anyone tried it? I have a feeling that if it sounds too good to be true, it is too good to be true.

"Juroat" appears to be subject to a trademark in some jurisdictions. It appears to be owned by a firm in the Seychelles (but IANAL, still less an IP lawyer).
 
Posted by Heavenly Anarchist (# 13313) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Kittyville:
NEQ - you might be better using a julienne peeler or a spiralizer and making "pasta" from courgettes or carrots. All the rage down here at the mo, and dare I say it, nay bad.

I have a spiralizer and it makes great courgette spaghetti. I will be having some today as we are having fish noodle soup for dinner, it makes a great substitute for noodles for me on fast days.
 
Posted by Amanda B. Reckondwythe (# 5521) on :
 
I think we call courgettes zucchini over here.

I wouldn't use a spiralizer on carrots -- they're high glycemic, unlike zucchini.

There was a pasta on the market at one time that advertised itself as low glycemic, that its carbs were somehow "locked in a matrix" and unavailable for digestion. Subsequent studies revealed that it had just as many carbs as the regular stuff, and that they were just as readily available for digestion, matrix or not.

The package labeling was changed without fanfare after that, but I haven't seen that particular brand in the stores for awhile now.

[ 12. February 2015, 12:46: Message edited by: Amanda B. Reckondwythe ]
 
Posted by Boogie (# 13538) on :
 
I had my eight-weekly fitness test today and I am pleased.

I have lost an inch each off chest, waist and hips. I have lost a pound in weight and my resting heart rate has gone down from 90 to 70.

Getting there!

[Smile]
 
Posted by To The Pain (# 12235) on :
 
Well, fast days I and II went pretty well. As a non-ship friend who does 5:2 noted, you can eat a lot of vegetables for 500kcal. I was pretty ravenous on my post-fast days and yesterday had to have a wee sit down and a glass of apple juice while making the breakfast, so I'm being cautious (and lazy) and not doing morning gymming until I get used to things.

Fasting again today, but have decided that I'm taking up pancakes for Lent. Feeling a bit contrary.
 
Posted by Sipech (# 16870) on :
 
After rather badly injuring my legs at Greenbelt last year, my walking fell off and the pounds went on. This year, I've cut down the snacks so I only munch on celery at my desk. I've also gone to just one dinner every other day instead of every day.

To no longer be overweight I needed to lose 18 pounds. Hit the 1/3rd mark this week.

So I'm celebrating by upping the snacks to raisins for this week.
 
Posted by Amanda B. Reckondwythe (# 5521) on :
 
Well, Lent didn't start early for me this year, as I had hoped it would. Now that we are officially in Lent, I no longer have an excuse. I'm 10 pounds away from the heaviest weight I ever was, and I find it shocking.
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
Following a bit of a good example I was set by Pete I am seriously attempting a bit of portion control - and finding I sleep much better if I am not so stuffed.

Now the problem is maintaining it!
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
I got on the scales early this morning to find myself, after quite a break when I haven't weighed myself, 3 kilos lighter!

A very chuffed WW!

But I have had two cookies today [Hot and Hormonal] so that won't have helped.
 
Posted by Piglet (# 11803) on :
 
Well done Wodders - you'll just have to go for a long walk up a steep hill, possibly with Pete, to make up for the cookies. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by St Everild (# 3626) on :
 
It is so difficult....having got out of the habit of monitoring my food intake and, as a consequence, reverting to old habits, few of my clothes fit and I feel a wobbly blob.
However, for the past 4 days I have been keeping a food diary, trying to move more and generally trying harder.

Onwards and....downwards.

Good luck, fellow travellers on this "journey"....
 
Posted by crunt (# 1321) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Welease Woderwick:
I got on the scales early this morning to find myself, after quite a break when I haven't weighed myself, 3 kilos lighter!A very chuffed WW!

But I have had two cookies today [Hot and Hormonal] so that won't have helped.

Having just had two gourmet chocolate chip cookies* with my morning coffee, I too am very chuffed that two biscuits hit the spot, and I don't need to chow down on any more just for the 'numm'.

*off the quick sale shelf due to damaged packaging: reduced from RM24.99 to RM4.99 (USD about $1.35)
 
Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by North East Quine:
I saw a display of very low calorie "pasta" in a health food shop yesterday. It's made of juroat, a mixture of konjac flour and oat fibre.

I thought I'd google, but google is just giving me dozens of sites selling the stuff.

Anyone tried it? I have a feeling that if it sounds too good to be true, it is too good to be true.

It was too good to be true. I tried the noodles, which claim to have one tenth the calories of normal noodles. I boiled them up, and they looked just fine. I added a nice garlicky sauce. I took a mouthful, attempted to chew and my teeth bounced off them. Some determined chewing later and I still had a mouthful of noodles. The surprising thing isn't that they have so few calories, but that they have any calories at all.
 
Posted by Firenze (# 619) on :
 
They sound the pastic equivalent of those snacks made of extruded polystyrene. There is a point at which something may technically be a food in terms of molecular structure but lack any of the characteristics such as taste, edibility etc.
 
Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :
 
I was in a quandry over what to do with the left-overs. Food waste is supposed to be recycled, but I wasn't convinced this stuff was food.

I binned it.
 
Posted by Piglet (# 11803) on :
 
You should have tried to sell it to Tate Modern. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Lamb Chopped (# 5528) on :
 
Konjac is like that. I understand it's been banned in some places/for some uses because children have choked on it.
 
Posted by To The Pain (# 12235) on :
 
Well, however many weeks in I am and I've lost a kilo doing 5:2. I'm pretty happy about that gentle rate, there was even a week off due to circumstances (leaving a department and travelling).

It does seem to work better when I am the one making breakfast on my fast days - if I do the day after then I usually need a biscuit the moment I get up to prevent fainting in the kitchen [Hot and Hormonal]

I do like not having to think about what I am eating on 5 days of the week, makes for a much lower chance of distraction and the whole thing feels less effortful than calorie counting all week. Also seems to be working with the hungry household.
 
Posted by Firenze (# 619) on :
 
*bump*
 
Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :
 
Yesterday I saw a dreadful photograph of myself. There are two - in the first I knew I was being photographed and was standing up straight and smiling. In it I look like the "me" I see when I look in the mirror. Fat, but cheerful and reasonably energetic. In the second I didn't know I was being photographed, and was focussed on something else. In fact, I was speaking to someone I like and I know I was feeling happy when it was taken. But I don't look happy. I look old, and fat, and tired.

[Waterworks]
 
Posted by Firenze (# 619) on :
 
Back from a week in France - discouraging on two counts. Firstly, it's France, and there seems no way to avoid eating and drinking about four times your normal intake. Secondly, the hotel mirrors are much, much crueller than the ones at home.

On the two photos - read an interesting piece on how the 'Before' and 'After' pix can, in fact, be taken at the same time. In the first, the model is slouching in a baggy t-shirt - hour later, after a burst of exercise, a dash of tanning lotion and a change into Lycra, there they are, tall, slim and glowing all due to SNIBBO!
 
Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :
 
The second photo is really bothering me because I know I was feeling happy and engaged when it was taken, but I look ...awful. Not just fat, but fat and saggy, and old and tired. It's hard to assess yourself in photos, but I reckon I look ten years older in the second than the first.

In the first, I look fat, but I'm ok with looking fat because I can tell myself that with a bit of will power I could lose a some weight. But in the second I look beyond redemption.
 
Posted by Jane R (# 331) on :
 
NEQ: [Votive]

I have signed up to do a 5k race in less than eight weeks' time. I know I'm fit enough to do it, in spite of all the wobbly bits... but I hope I don't feature in anyone's photos. If there is a prize for the Most Undignified Way of (Failing) To Get Over The Wall I will probably win it (it's an obstacle race).

I daresay I will look about 90 at the finish line, but I hope to be covered in mud and unrecognisable by then.
 
Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :
 
Is that one of the Race for Life ones, Jane R?

I have stopped crying, and looked at the photo closely. I have identified 8 problems, of which no. 5 is "need to lose at least 3 stone, 4 would be better, 5 better still."

At least I can do something about No.1. The photos were taken at a church coffee morning, and one of the other women had made us waitress caps out of paper doilies and black ribbon. Yes, really. In the first photo I am smiling and I think I am wearing a doily on my head with a certain panache. But in the second, I'm not smiling, and it's more of a "She's got a doily on her head! Quick, hide the crayons before she eats them!" sort of look.

So, fashionistas, the Quine's tip for the day is "If you find yourself with a paper doily on your head, always remember to smile!"

If only the rest of the Things Wrong With Me were sortable with a smile.
 
Posted by Firenze (# 619) on :
 
At least we can be grateful the doily is no longer de rigeur.
 
Posted by St Everild (# 3626) on :
 
I have decided that Something Must Be Done about my appalling fitness level and generally feeling old, achy, overweight (again...) so I have signed up to a Nordic Walking Course. Session 2 was tonight and I am completely exhausted. I hope I can move tomorrow morning....
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
I've been a Bad WW as I haven't walked the last few mornings - this seems good at the time as I turn off the alarm, turn over and go back to sleep but then I feel guilty later and know that the next time I step on the scales I shall rue doing this.

On the up side I haven't changed the alarm setting from 05.45 - YET!
 
Posted by Heavenly Anarchist (# 13313) on :
 
I'll fallen off my 5:2 diet, not because it is unmanageable but because I am depressed. I'm hoping when the academic term is over (about 2 weeks until their exams) I can kick myself into getting out of the house more and be more motivated.
 
Posted by Jane R (# 331) on :
 
NEQ:
quote:
Is that one of the Race for Life ones, Jane R?
Yes. I went out for my first training run with a couple of friends yesterday. It was a bit of a shock; I can do 30 minutes non-stop on a treadmill, no problem, but for some reason it seems to be harder running outside. I had to slow down to a walk after less than 20 minutes.

I am trying to console myself with the thought that my friends (who were very supportive, but obviously a lot fitter than me) are not carrying around about 3 stone in Excess Baggage.

Must restart the 5:2 diet, but finding it difficult to motivate myself...

[ 19. May 2015, 11:25: Message edited by: Jane R ]
 
Posted by Nenya (# 16427) on :
 
I'd love to be able to run again but am shamefully unfit and have at least 3 stone too many to put that sort of stress on my joints. I am not very active naturally but Mr Nen and I were away on a conference at the weekend and it was far too sedentary even for me. I still feel out of sorts.

My sympathies about the photo, NEQ. Once, looking through Mr Nen's holiday photographs, I wondered why he'd taken a picture of one particular fat woman. Then I realised who she was. [Hot and Hormonal] This was some years ago, but not much has changed. [Waterworks]

Nen - always trying to lose weight, always falling off the waggon.
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
I made yesterday worse by pigging out a bit [a lot?] over the day but I got up this morning and did a proper walk so feel a little virtuous - but only a little.
 
Posted by Amanda B. Reckondwythe (# 5521) on :
 
I've developed a crush on the clerk at the local Coldstone Creamery. I'm trying not to go over there every day, but so far I've only had partial success. [Frown]

[ 20. May 2015, 22:17: Message edited by: Amanda B. Reckondwythe ]
 
Posted by lily pad (# 11456) on :
 
Oh my, Coldstone is calorific!

Btw, dairy bar season is very short here so I am doing my best to support the local establishments. Since the last time I weighed myself I was four pounds over my non-negotiable upper limit, I have decided to only walk or bike to get ice cream. As my nan would say, "I thought you were trying to reduce!"
 
Posted by Brenda Clough (# 18061) on :
 
There was a coffee bar in my area with a -famously- good looking barista. He was so good looking that it was important to order your coffee while wearing sunglasses, so that he would not notice your eyes bugging out.

I have found that (esp. with ice cream) it is useful to become very, very picky about it. If I am going to blow a calorie on ice cream, it had better be the very best available. This instantly cuts out cheap ice creams from trucks, boring flavors, annoying toppings or combinations. By grinding up the selectiveness to fanatical levels you wind up eating ice cream only a few times a year. And when you do it is PERFECT. These days the only ice cream I eat is gelato, made to Italian recipe from organic local ingredients, ideally with honey and chocolate in it.
 
Posted by Amanda B. Reckondwythe (# 5521) on :
 
My problem is that both very good ice cream and very good frozen yogurt are available in my neighborhood.

With the frozen yogurt I try to stick with the "no sugar added" variety, although I don't know what it's sweetened with -- could be something just as bad as sugar, for all I know. But then I go and spoil it by adding toppings. They also have fat-free varieties, but my experience is that fat free equals flavor free. Besides, fat is not the culprit -- carbohydrates are.

On the plus side, I don't find the clerk in the yogurt shop the least bit attractive.
 
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :
 
Thank God that eye-candy, on its own, is non-fattening!
 


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