quote:7 they love to be greeted in the marketplaces and to have men call them ‘Rabbi.’ 8 “But you are not to be called ‘Rabbi,’ for you have only one Master and you are all brothers. 9 And do not call anyone on earth ‘father,’ for you have one Father, and he is in heaven.
quote:1 Do not rebuke an older man harshly, but exhort him as if he were your father. Treat younger men as brothers, 2 older women as mothers, and younger women as sisters, with absolute purity.
quote:Originally posted by Barnabas62: The danger being that if you call someone Father (who is not your real father) your mind may attribute to them all the good characteristics of fatherhood which ultimately belong to and emanate from God the Father. That way you can get led up the garden path
quote:Originally posted by Johnny S: quote:Originally posted by Barnabas62: The danger being that if you call someone Father (who is not your real father) your mind may attribute to them all the good characteristics of fatherhood which ultimately belong to and emanate from God the Father. That way you can get led up the garden path I would have thought that a far bigger danger is that you project on to this person any issues you have with your biological father.
quote:Originally posted by tclune: It's worth mentioning that "rabbi" means a lot more than just "father." It can mean "great," "lord," "revered," etc. in addition to "father." So we lose a lot of the flavor of the word if we think only of the english word "father."
quote:Originally posted by Johnny S:You've lost me Tom.You do realise that Jesus makes two separate prohibitions in Matthew 23? (one sentence about 'rabbi' and another one about 'father', separated by a kai.)Or am I missing something?
quote:...The greatest among you will be your servant. And whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted.
quote:”But woe to you, experts in the law and you Pharisees, hypocrites! You keep locking people out of the kingdom of heaven! For you neither enter nor permit those trying to enter to go in.”versus“I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven. Whatever you bind on earth will have been bound in heaven, and whatever you release on earth will have been released in heaven.”
quote:Originally posted by Nigel M:In the community of Jesus' followers there might well be those who carry a leadership role in guiding others, but perhaps the point is that they lead by example, not ordering their group to go first down what might be a very dark alley. In this way someone could be called a Father (or pastor, priest, minister, reverent, Most High Organ Pumper, etc.) and be like a father at the same time. The risk might be that a label is attached rather too hastily to someone who has not yet had the opportunity to earn his or her stripes in the kingdom.
quote: 22 Do not be hasty in the laying on of hands, and do not share in the sins of others. Keep yourself pure.