quote:Originally posted by John Holding:For heat we have Hell, and at the rate you're going, someone (not me) is sure to decide that's the best place to deal with you.[
quote:I never expected anyone LGBT to like or pay attention to anything I'm saying, I assume that LGBT people are going to tune me out. I'm really not talking to them, as if they are all that is in the room....I wont treat the issue on the whole with special gloves on because people could be offended. If I have stepped on toes of people wearing their heart on their sleeve -ok- there is a clash, it happens.
quote:Originally posted by lilBuddha: quote:Originally posted by John Holding:For heat we have Hell, and at the rate you're going, someone (not me) is sure to decide that's the best place to deal with you.[Got your back, John.Come on down to the hole, Aijalon
quote:Originally posted by Alan Cresswell: When someone posts several times, each of which contains something that is close to the line of personal offense, a general warning of the sort John posted is usually given. We don't really want to interrupt a thread by having an excessively long post from a host giving all the instances where someone is adding heat but little light. It is, of course, perfectly acceptable to ask for the details here in the Styx. I'm not a host, and I haven't read all that you have posted, so I'm not in the best position to produce such a clarification. However, reading your recent posts, one comment particularly caught my eye. On the Biblical Interpretation thread you say: quote:I never expected anyone LGBT to like or pay attention to anything I'm saying, I assume that LGBT people are going to tune me out. I'm really not talking to them, as if they are all that is in the room....I wont treat the issue on the whole with special gloves on because people could be offended. If I have stepped on toes of people wearing their heart on their sleeve -ok- there is a clash, it happens.This appears to be saying that a) you're not wanting to engage with actual LGBT people posting on that thread (and presumably other threads), and b) you're not particularly concerned about stepping on toes and causing offence.I would say that both of those apparent points are in the class of "likely to add heat but no light". People will naturally be annoyed if they feel their opinions are not being seriously engaged with - which would apply not just to LGBT people, but friends of LGBT people or anyone who happens to disagree with your interpretations of Scripture. And, of course, when you're not concerned about stepping on toes then toes will be stepped on. We're not asking you to stop expressing your opinions, we'd have a boring conversation if that happened. But, we would appreciate some respect for others - to remember that the people you are debating with (whether LGBT or not) are human beings. And, to attempt to avoid stepping on toes, with sincere apologies when toes are stepped on. And, the other side of the coin of your views being heard is that it would be good if you could at least appear to take opposing views seriously.We want discussion which brings light with the minimum heat possible.AlanShip of Fools Admin
quote:Originally posted by Aijalon: So from here I guess I will investigate how I can talk about this with a mindset of LGBT are in the room, but I am not sure how I will reform how I say things on that account. It may be too late anyway, not sure.
quote:Originally posted by Aijalon:For example, I might reject the answer of "I'm LGBT for no reason but I just like it, or I was 'born this way'" with a question about an LGBT person's parents.... you know, the whole "did you have a loving mommy and daddy?" line of questioning.
quote:Originally posted by Aijalon:<snip>For example, I might reject the answer of "I'm LGBT for no reason but I just like it, or I was 'born this way'" with a question about an LGBT person's parents.... you know, the whole "did you have a loving mommy and daddy?" line of questioning.<snip>
quote:Originally posted by BroJames:And because such information is widely available, it is likely that such questioning is liable to be construed as not a genuine request for information,
quote:Originally posted by Alan Cresswell: And, I would remind everyone that Hell exists for you to express annoyance at other Shipmates. You can use words like "coward" or comment on whether someone is a functioning human being there, you can't do that here in the Styx (or in DH). There's no requirement for anyone else to read or post in Hell, there is a requirement not to get Hellish outside Hell.AlanShip of Fools Admin