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Now, it looks suspiciously like Rey is talking to Kylo Ren, which upset Daughter-Unit and I greatly. However, since the backgrounds in that clip are different, I'm hoping that's a deliberate red herring!

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Originally posted by la vie en rouge:
I thought the big give-away was that Kylo-Ren is going to kill his mother. They have to write Carrie Fisher out of the series somehow (sniff).

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Originally posted by la vie en rouge:
I thought the big give-away was that Kylo-Ren is going to kill his mother. They have to write Carrie Fisher out of the series somehow (sniff).

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Adam Driver ( throwing down script) :"Are you shitting me? Are you out of your minds? Little kids will be shin- kicking me in the streets! "

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"Leia shot first".
 

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Posted by jedijudy (# 333) on :
 
OK. I just saw The Last Jedi! WooHoo!!

I'm not going to tell you all anything. Yet.

Daughter-Unit and my handsome Son-in-Law and I all thought it was a magnificent movie! There were so many surprises and we thought things were going one way, and they went another! And it was so good to see Carrie Fisher again.

When more of you have seen it, and we think it's safe to discuss, I think we should do so and parse out what will happen next! Oh boy, oh boy!
 

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Posted by sharkshooter (# 1589) on :
 
I can't believe we have to wait two full years before Episode IX comes out.
 

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Posted by Prester John (# 5502) on :
 

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I can't believe we have to wait two full years before Episode IX comes out.

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Two years is nothing. If Lucas was running things we would have to wait for the next presidential administration before seeing it. He took way too long.
 

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Posted by sharkshooter (# 1589) on :
 
Yeah, but I had lots more years left back then.
 

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Posted by jedijudy (# 333) on :
 
D-U and I were debating things about the movie this morning. It's fun to talk to her since she's as much a fanatic as I am. I did raise her right, and she married another one just like us!

We're going to see it again on Sunday. There was so much going on, there are things we have to check out. Of course, we may have to go a few more times to make sure our observations are correct.


 

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Posted by Wet Kipper (# 1654) on :
 
I saw it on Friday. Some bits i liked, some bits i didn't but on the whole I think it was a great film, a solid addition to both the overall story and the individual character arcs and that it set up the next film without us being able to guess exactly what will happen in the next film

Once we are able to discuss freely, without fear of spoiling, there are a few points I would like to chew over with other people
 

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Posted by jedijudy (# 333) on :
 

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Originally posted by Sipech:
The only bit I really didn't like was the "flying/floating" scene. I thought it was a good juncture and was thinking "Ah, so that's how they resolved that point" only to then have that particular element of the film continue.

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Originally posted by Ian Climacus:
** SPOLIERS **

** REALLY, SPOILERS **

** LAST WARNING **

I am not a huge fan (ducks),

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...so does this relate to something else in a previous episode?
I didn't get it.

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If I understand what you're asking, some of us were wondering how Leia would get written out of the Star Wars Universe. Apparently the Force wasn't done with her yet!
 

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Posted by Wet Kipper (# 1654) on :
 
Is what I'm about to ask actually a spoiler ?
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I'm not sure really.
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but I'll put in some blocking text anyway
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(edited to add) - i then looked at this posy in the "today's threads, and discovred that lines of dots, or blank spaces with carriage returns is not enough to push the contentious text out of the scope of the "preview" of my contribution when it appears in that view

Hopefully this additional prose will assist in the "blinding" process

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Was anyone else hoping they would categorically confirm Rey's parentage one way or the other, or explain her "abilities" ?
I say categorically because I do not trust anything Kylo Ren said in their conversations

[ 19. December 2017, 10:05: Message edited by: Wet Kipper ]
 

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Posted by Wet Kipper (# 1654) on :
 
and then the edited post didn't show the extra text in that preview. So i'm adding a throwaway post to make it not the "newest" entry
 

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Posted by Marvin the Martian (# 4360) on :
 

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THIS COMMENT CONTAINS SPOILERS

I saw it on Saturday.

This is a bumph sentence to fill space lest anyone failed to understand the top line.

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Some have commented favourably about the film's humour. I thought it was laid on a little too thick at the start.

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The only bit I really didn't like was the "flying/floating" scene. I thought it was a good juncture and was thinking "Ah, so that's how they resolved that point" only to then have that particular element of the film continue.

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Though I did twig that there was something off with the beard colour later on in the film, which was quite well done, but as I said: I did spot it.

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By the way, anyone else thing the crystal critters should've been called ice foxes? Crystal critters is such a crap name.

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1. OK, Rian, we get it. War is bad. But maybe you shouldn't lay that message on quite so thickly in a movie called Star Fucking WARS?
2. R2D2 is a master of emotional manipulation.
3. Dark Side caves are trippy as fuck.
4. Why do Resistance bombers move so bloody slowly? They're in space ferchrissakes!
5. Why do First Order turbolaser bolts follow ballistic trajectories? They're in space ferchrissakes!
6. Why do resistance ships stop moving when they run out of fuel? They're in space ferchrissakes!
7. Snoke. Fun character, shame he had to split.
8. "Don't go this way, Ben". *sniff*
9. Now that's what I call ramming speed. Every jaw in the room was on the floor at that scene.
10. "That's how we'll beat them. Not fighting what we hate, but saving what we love"
11. "I don't want to do this right now" "yeah, me too"
12. So that's where blue milk comes from.
13. Luke: parking X-Wings underwater since 1980.
14. Best. Lightsaber kill. EVER.
15. "Amazing. Every part of what you just said was wrong."

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Originally posted by Marvin the Martian:
from what was Originally posted by Sipech:
THIS COMMENT CONTAINS SPOILERS

I saw it on Saturday.

This is a bumph sentence to fill space lest anyone failed to understand the top line.

Left in for obvious reasons.
Read on at your own peril - this gets pretty spoilery towards the end.

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Originally posted by Sipech:
As for the best lightsabre kill, there were a few options. Was it the the one where the character was sat down or the rather forceful eye poke?

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Originally posted by Wet Kipper:
but why did she wait until so many of the transports had been picked off (and conveniently not the "main characters' one) before she decided to do that ?

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For that matter, what in hell were the other Star Destroyers doing during that whole set piece? If I was in charge of the First Order fleet I'd have told two of them to go to hyperspace for half a second, drop out right in front of the Resistance ship and either pulverise the shit out of it or force it to waste fuel going to hyperspace itself.
 

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Posted by Karl: Liberal Backslider (# 76) on :
 

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Originally posted by Marvin the Martian:
from what was Originally posted by Sipech:
THIS COMMENT CONTAINS SPOILERS

I saw it on Saturday.

This is a bumph sentence to fill space lest anyone failed to understand the top line.

Left in for obvious reasons.
Read on at your own peril - this gets pretty spoilery towards the end.

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[*]Why do Resistance bombers move so bloody slowly? They're in space ferchrissakes!

agreed, even though lot of mass would still need lots of energy to move it in space, you'd think they would give them stronger engines.

But I expect the "plan" was for more stalling time to allow them to be directly over the thing before de-cloaking or whatever it was they did

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[*]Now that's what I call ramming speed. Every jaw in the room was on the floor at that scene.

but why did she wait until so many of the transports had been picked off (and conveniently not the "main characters' one) before she decided to do that ?

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Originally posted by la vie en rouge:
Kylo-Ren isn’t villainous enough for me. I get the rationale for making him a conflicted character – after all, they were always going to be on a loser if they tried to come up with another baddie as evil as Darth Vader – but I still find him a bit wet behind the ears.

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I’m intrigued that they kept Princess Leia alive until the end of the film and am intrigued as to how they’re going to write her out.

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I’m glad he’s lost the mask, OTOH. It was never as badass as his grandfather’s.

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Originally posted by Wet Kipper:
but why did she wait until so many of the transports had been picked off (and conveniently not the "main characters' one) before she decided to do that ?

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For that matter, what in hell were the other Star Destroyers doing during that whole set piece? If I was in charge of the First Order fleet I'd have told two of them to go to hyperspace for half a second, drop out right in front of the Resistance ship and either pulverise the shit out of it or force it to waste fuel going to hyperspace itself.

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Originally posted by Brenda Clough:
There is of course going to be a third movie. Like the Ramans, SW does everything in threes.

I saw it today in Georgia, for =cheap.= Tickets are a third what they are in DC!

This movie is at least an hour too long. Nearly 3 hours! I have only contempt for the pandering to the toy market (the puffin-like creatures, the crystal cats, etc.) I have long ago given up on the notion of physics or space. But gosh! If you have a fleet of unarmed troop transports, and they're being picked off one by one, why not split off and separate? You have nothing to lose at this point.

If there is a less charismatic and convincing villain than Kyle Ren, I have yet to see him.

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Originally posted by Brenda Clough:
If there is a less charismatic and convincing villain than Kyle Ren, I have yet to see him.

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I liked the porgs. Especially roasted.

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I imagine Chewy would have liked to like them also!
 

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Posted by Timothy the Obscure (# 292) on :
 
Saw it today. Not bad (mostly harmless). Of course I'm more of a Trekkie, really, but not a snob about it...still...when spacecraft run out of fuel, they stop accelerating, but don't slow down. (And BTW--with reference to Rogue 1--is it really credible that people with a technological level that includes FTL spaceships rely on a data storage system composed of a vast tower of VHS cassettes? Just saying...)

It was too long, and dragged in the middle. The bad guys' dialogue was just as tediously trite as ever (Carrie Fisher apparently rewrote some of her own lines--they should have let her rewrite Snoke's). But it worked overall. I'm looking forward to the next one, though I expect they're frantically rewriting the script, since obviously Leia was supposed to be in it...
 

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Posted by Brenda Clough (# 18061) on :
 

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Originally posted by Timothy the Obscure:
Saw it today. Not bad (mostly harmless). Of course I'm more of a Trekkie, really, but not a snob about it...still...when spacecraft run out of fuel, they stop accelerating, but don't slow down. (And BTW--with reference to Rogue 1--is it really credible that people with a technological level that includes FTL spaceships rely on a data storage system composed of a vast tower of VHS cassettes? Just saying...)

It was too long, and dragged in the middle. The bad guys' dialogue was just as tediously trite as ever (Carrie Fisher apparently rewrote some of her own lines--they should have let her rewrite Snoke's). But it worked overall. I'm looking forward to the next one, though I expect they're frantically rewriting the script, since obviously Leia was supposed to be in it...

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Yes. If Han Solo shuffled off the mortal coil in the first, and Luke is now no more as of this film, then Leia's up at bat for the next film. You can see it coming, ponderous as an aircraft carrier on the ballet floor.
I am beginning to sense that the Jedi’s fatal error was going big. They had an HQ, a large number of members, all that fancy stuff in #s 1-3. They had all the trappings of power and success. They made the classic error of the winner — they became their enemy.
So it all went to pieces, a long process detailed in #s 4 through 8, and at the end of this movie they’re eating dirt like they deserve. Fine. It’s in this movie that we see how they really have to win. From the bottom, as a liberating force of justice for the toilers in rags at the bottom of the economic pile. They don’t need brown hoodie robes. They need pussy hats.
 

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Posted by Brenda Clough (# 18061) on :
 
Drat, hit send too fast. Here is a grand review that says it better.
 

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Posted by Golden Key (# 1468) on :
 
I saw it Friday.

I liked it. I would've done a few production things differently, but it was basically good. I went to a morning (cheap!) showing of the plain film--no IMAX or 3D, which was exactly right for me. I do need to see it again, though--unusually, the theater had the volume way down, so I didn't get all the lines.

I'm still processing it, a bit, so will post more later.

But I don't have to dodge related ads and media anymore!

 

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Posted by Sarasa (# 12271) on :
 
I saw it last week and enjoyed it to. As my hearing is dire I always go to subtitled performances which is useful - I certainly wouldn't have got a lot of it otherwise. I liked the DJ character, who I assume will turn up in Part 3 and despite all the battles the basic message about saving what you love.
 

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Posted by The5thMary (# 12953) on :
 
If I haven't seen the first one (I know whiny Kylo Ren kills his dad, Han Solo), will I be completely lost watching this new movie?

I avoided the previous one because I just couldn't bear the thought of it being schmaltzy as hell..."here's Leia, looking a hundred years old...and, Chewie, good old Chewie...". and what seemed to me a completely
 

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Posted by Golden Key (# 1468) on :
 
SPOILERS for entire series of NUMBERED Star Wars films (in this and later posts).

Yes, SPOILERS, really. {Our chief weapon is fear and surprise.}

SPOILERAMA! (Our two chief weapons are fear, surprise, and ruthless efficiency.}

SPOILERS, LLC. {Our three chief weapons are fear, surprise, ruthless efficiency, and an almost fanatical devotion to the pope.}

SPOILERS & Spam, served in the Comfy Chair.


--Rey’s parentage:

It’s possible that her parents were “nobodies”, but I don’t think Kylo Ren was telling the truth. It’s unclear whether Jedi potential is usually passed down, or a spontaneous occurrence in an individual, or simply developed in training. There weren’t all that many Jedis in Ep. 1, before Anakin (later Vader) was born.

Anakin was special. He was actually a child of the Force. Per his mom, she either hadn’t been with a man to cause that pregnancy, or she was a virgin. (Wasn’t quite clear to me.) When the Jedis took him in, they refused to take his mother, too. (IIRC, Liam Neesen’s character said something like “I don’t have any orders about that.) This led to horrible circumstances for Anakin’s mother, pushed him over the edge, and drove him to the dark side.

He’s the father of Luke and Leia, and passed Force potential down to them. Very strong in Luke, partly due to training. Leia has it, too, but more quietly, and she may not have had formal training. But that’s (presumably) allowed her to save herself in Ep. 8 (TLJ).

She passed the potential down to Ben/KR. His development and then training went very, very badly. But he has abilities that even Vader didn’t have, like reaching out directly to Rey. And Rey’s abilities are *at least* as strong.
Star Wars works with patterns, as myths and folklore often do. (And, remember, George Lucas purposely set out to create what he called “a myth for our times”.) There were all sorts of shout-outs to the other films.

Given that, the most like scenario is that R and B/KR are some sort of siblings or close relatives. One possibility—and this is EWWW ICKKK—is that, before Luke and Leia knew they were siblings, they were together. (NOTE: I’m not sure of the ages of R and B/KR, so this might not fly.) And had offspring. Maybe Leia didn’t tell Luke, and gave up the baby. (Probably Rey.) That would explain Luke not having any clue who Rey was.

Might also be that Luke had a child with someone else. Or an embryo was frozen, or…

OTOH, it could just be that the Force felt the need to produce more children of its own.
 

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Posted by Golden Key (# 1468) on :
 
{/end SPOILERS}

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Posted by la vie en rouge (# 10688) on :
 
Spoilers incoming
Spoilers incoming
Spoilers incoming
Spoilers incoming

I personally like the idea that after all Rey really is a nobody from nowhere. It’s the uprising of the little people in the face of the ones who have always held all the power. I’ll feel a bit bummed if she turns out to be hidden nobility after all.
 

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Posted by Marvin the Martian (# 4360) on :
 

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Originally posted by la vie en rouge:
Spoilers incoming
Spoilers incoming
Spoilers incoming
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I personally like the idea that after all Rey really is a nobody from nowhere. It’s the uprising of the little people in the face of the ones who have always held all the power. I’ll feel a bit bummed if she turns out to be hidden nobility after all.

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Originally posted by Trudy Scrumptious:
Are we doing the "spoiler space" thing?
Are we doing the "spoiler space" thing?
Are we doing the "spoiler space" thing?
Are we doing the "spoiler space" thing?
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I have problems with the geopolitics of the larger story arc. If the Empire was defeated at the end of the original trilogy, and the Republic has been ruling ever since (about 30 years?), presumably the Republic is pretty well established by the beginning of TFA. I thought the First Order was represented in TFA as a smallish terrorist organization romanticizing the totalitarianism of the dead Empire -- kind of like neo-Nazis in Europe today. That seemed plausible.

But then, how do we get to a position a short time later, at the beginning of TLJ, where the First Order seems to be all powerful and the remnants of the government that has been in power for the last 20-30 years is reduced to a small band of "Resistance" fighters? That would be hard to pull of in a single country ... much less an entire planet ... much less a multi-planetary system. Were there large pockets of Empire loyalists all over the galaxy being kept in check during the years of Republican rule, who all rose up very quickly in response to the success of the First Order? Was this explained during one of the bits where I dozed off?

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I thought the Republic PTB were the ones targeted by the Death Star***uh***Planet big gun thing in TFA. Although, how the First Order were able to finance and build that thing (was Snoke the snake rich?) without those same Republic folks knowing about it was a bit of a puzzle to me.

You can tell Kylo Ren is related to Anakin by his whiny temper tantrums. I don't know how the kid can focus enough to actually do magical Force things!
 

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Posted by Sparrow (# 2458) on :
 
I think that Ben and Rey are twins. Think about it - Luke and Leia were twins. Twins in a family are hereditary. So Leia has twins, but somehow it is understood that they are in danger or will be a danger. So (like Luke and Leia) they are split up as babies and Rey is spirited away somewhere. Maybe things went wrong with her adoption and she ended up as a nobody.

But it might explain why she and Ben have this unique communication.
 

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Posted by Golden Key (# 1468) on :
 
Yes, I lean towards twin theory, too. There are lots of cross-references, call-and-response moments, in TLJ. At least to the previous film and the original trilogy.

Example: In TLJ, when Rey confronts Luke with her light saber, Luke very purposely bares his flesh hand, referencing when he lost his other hand to Vader, his father.

And then there's R2 playing the old hologram of Leia to make a point.


[ 07. January 2018, 01:47: Message edited by: Golden Key ]
 

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Posted by Brenda Clough (# 18061) on :
 
Um ... but didn't Leia meet Rey in either this movie or the previous one? I certainly do not recall an OMG here's my missing baby moment. Surely you would -notice- if you had twins; that's not the kind of detail that would escape your attention. Recall that Princess Amidala died giving birth to her twins (Luke & Leia). Obstetrics is clearly not one of the areas of science that the galaxy is very interested in developing, not like ray guns or combat robots. They cannot have an artificial-womb technology. You could postulate a donor-egg carried to term by a surrogate mother, but again, you can't just donate an egg like donating a fingernail clipping. Harvesting an egg is a major thing.
 

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Posted by gustava (# 15593) on :
 
Maybe cousins? With Luke having a weak moment somewhere along the line and never knowing the result?
 

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Posted by Karl: Liberal Backslider (# 76) on :
 
Why do you need Rey to have lineage? Personally I think Rey's no-one in particular status is deliberately to wind up the fan theories. "Nope. You're all wrong."
 

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Posted by Trudy Scrumptious (# 5647) on :
 

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Why do you need Rey to have lineage? Personally I think Rey's no-one in particular status is deliberately to wind up the fan theories. "Nope. You're all wrong."

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There is also the question of how when a ship in orbit (i.e. freefall) opens its bomb doors the bombs would drop at all.

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Um ... but didn't Leia meet Rey in either this movie or the previous one? I certainly do not recall an OMG here's my missing baby moment. Surely you would -notice- if you had twins; that's not the kind of detail that would escape your attention.

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Are we doing the "spoiler space" thing?
Are we doing the "spoiler space" thing?
Are we doing the "spoiler space" thing?
Are we doing the "spoiler space" thing?

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They'll also score some points for LGBTQ representation if they ever bring that Poe/Finn romance that fans are shipping to fruition, though there wasn't much in the TLJ to support that, alas.

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I guess I don't understand why it would be "pasted on" as opposed to "in situ" if two characters of the same gender, who (at least in the eyes of many viewers) appear to have a strong bond and possibly an attraction between them, were to be seen as a couple? Why wouldn't Poe and Finn be a natural love story?

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Love stories are ancillary in the Star Wars universe. Even in the Three Which Shall Not be Named, the love storyline was secondary at best. Even though it was supposed to be a driver of Anakin's downfall. Where it did feature, it didn't help the story.
To do it justice, the relationship should be more real, and that would take over the film. If there had been hints in the first two, I would have less objection.
I want more LGBT+ characters in film. But I want them in ways that best serve LGBT+. As much as it would please a few fans, I don't think this would.
Black people have not been amazingly helped by being added on characters. (Side-kicks, comedy foils, magical helpers, etc.) Where they are main characters who happen to be black, it helps more.
 

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Posted by The5thMary (# 12953) on :
 
I apologize for my truncated posting the other day. I was attempting to use my smartphone to be part of the fun and found, to my dismay, that smartphones and Ship Of Fools are not a match made in heaven! My laptop is crying, sighing, and dying and my wife and I are trying to come up with funds to get it fixed. So, long story short, I promise not to post here unless I'm using a computer!


Question: A friend asked me if I wanted to see The Last Jedi. I very much want to but as previously posted, I hadn't seen the earlier one. I know Han Solo bit the dust at the hands of his whiny brat son and new characters abound. Will I be completely lost if I go see this? I plan on seeing the first new one sometime next week but tomorrow is the only chance I'll have to see this new one before it comes out on DVD.
 

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Posted by jedijudy (# 333) on :
 
You will probably not understand some of what is going on, and who certain people are if you see TLJ before TFA. IMHO!
 

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Posted by Golden Key (# 1468) on :
 
If you've seen the original three, from long ago, that will give you maybe 2/3 of what you need, IMHO.

[ 15. January 2018, 04:07: Message edited by: Golden Key ]
 

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Posted by sharkshooter (# 1589) on :
 
Before I saw it for the first time, I made sure I re-watched the entire series (1,2,3,R1, 4,5,6, and 7) in order.

Just in case.
 

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Posted by Karl: Liberal Backslider (# 76) on :
 

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Before I saw it for the first time, I made sure I re-watched the entire series (1,2,3,R1, 4,5,6, and 7) in order.

Just in case.

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4, 5, then 2, 3, R1 as flashbacks, 6, 7. 1 didn't exist, it is a figment of a diseased imagination, because Jah Jah Binks.
 

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Posted by lilBuddha (# 14333) on :
 
Neither did “2” or “3” for the same reason
 

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Posted by Golden Key (# 1468) on :
 
For me, the best order is: 4, 5, 6, 3, 7, 8.

I like parts of 1 and 2. But why in the world did Lucas portray characters is a speciesist/racist way? (Not just Jar-Jar's people (though I like him very much, and they're great warriors), but also the Asian-looking ambassadors.) If other characters saw them that way, that's one thing. But to actually portray them that way...


ETA: I saw 4, 5, and 6 when they first came out, back in the day, so I view the rest from that perspective. I don't think 1-3 should've been made. But 7 and 8 are back on track with the old-school ones.


[ 16. January 2018, 01:29: Message edited by: Golden Key ]
 

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Posted by Dafyd (# 5549) on :
 

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Posted by ArachnidinElmet (# 17346) on :
 
So I went to see this film for a second time and it definitely stood up to repeat viewing.

The things I enjoyed seem to be the same as others:
-the stunning fight/action scenes. That light sabre battle: choreographed, but not so slick as to be false.
- if they are going to pair anybody up I couldn't definitely predict how. Very unusual, especially in a cast with this many permutations.
-the acting/chemistry.
-the unpredictability of what will happen in the third film. It's a pity Rian Johnson won't be directing it.
-optimum porg. I liked the fact that porgs only came about as a way of disguising the puffins on Skellig St Michael, cheaper than erasing the birds in post-production. A fortuitous accident.
-that it's not just about good vs evil, but the consequences of good people doing bad things. Finn and Rose's little trip and decision to trust the Benicio del Toro character(never trust Benicio del Toro) and Po being a massive brat have terrible consequences, but are in line with the characters and are only wrong if you know what the audience knows. What would have happened to Ben Solo if Luke hadn't had a moment of stupidity?

A nice job
 

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Posted by Trudy Scrumptious (# 5647) on :
 

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This is from the Washington POST, but should amuse. It seems that some men's rights activists, displeased by all the women in the film, cut their own version of it. Unfortunately bobbing all the women out makes it only 48 minutes long and very nearly incomprehensible, but hey. Il faut soufrir pour etre belle.

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Originally posted by no prophet's flag is set so...:
Re throne room fighting. Evidently light sabres cauterize wounds very well. Snoke's guts didn't spill out of the halves of him.

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Originally posted by Og, King of Bashan:
One more thing to add (it's a good sign when you still want to talk about a movie four days later).

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From this I surmise that you are not a film geek and are new to the Star Wars universe.

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I guess I was never one of those people who was overly upset about how they turned force sensitivity into a genetic trait,

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But I'm still much happier about the idea that there are kids lurking in the shadows who could become future Jedi. And the bit at the end where the slave kid was using the force to sweep the floor underscored that so well.

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Originally posted by no prophet's flag is set so...:
..Chewbacca should have eaten the one he cooked...

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Originally posted by ArachnidinElmet:

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Originally posted by no prophet's flag is set so...:
..Chewbacca should have eaten the one he cooked...

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Yes. If it's not eaten, then that porg died in vain...

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Originally posted by no prophet's flag is set so...:

--Ben Solo was pushed by Luke to become bad, he didn't choose to become bad.

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Other: I had to look it up to confirm, but there was a First Order ship landing which was actually a steam clothes iron.

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