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duchess
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Ich kann diese dumme Aussage nicht glauben!
Er [Gerhard Schroeder] braucht seine Hausaufgaben zu machen! Er hat eine Vogel!
Bush is acting like Hitler says German Minister
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[ 10. March 2003, 01:14: Message edited by: Erin ]
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They're having an election, Duchess.
If I recall one of the other candidates is campaigning on a platform of expelling about 8,000 people whom he claims are Muslim militants.
It doesn't sound like it's a pretty campaign.
L.
BTW - historical tangent - The famous quote about having a a short victorious war to distract from domestic difficulties comes from the Russians, not Hitler.
"What this country needs is a short, victorious war to stem the tide of revolution."
V.K. Plehve, Russian Minister of the Interior
in the run-up to the Russo-Japanese war of 1905
They had their 'short victorious war' with the Japanese, it was short and victorious OK - for the Japanese who won!
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I'm inclined to ![[Flaming]](graemlins/angryfire.gif) , but ![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif) also. If I ever declare a desire to enter politics, somebody please shoot me.
And Your Grace, yo no comprendo Aleman, please translate! Gracias.
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It's not my mother tongue aber... quote:
Ich kann diese dumme Aussage nicht glauben!
Er [Gerhard Schroeder] braucht seine Hausaufgaben zu machen! Er hat eine Vogel!
means something like:
I can't believe that stupid expression!
He [Gerhard Schroeder] has to do his homework! He's crazy! ( I think at this point, German people point to their temples, suggesting they have a bat in the bellfry; hence, "he has a bird". My German teacher told me this was highly offensive and that if you made such a gesture to someone on the street you could be arrested!)
PS Liebe Duchess, soll man nicht sagen "Er hat einen Vogel"?
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quote:
Originally posted by Ley Druid:
It's not my mother tongue aber... quote:
Ich kann diese dumme Aussage nicht glauben!
Er [Gerhard Schroeder] braucht seine Hausaufgaben zu machen! Er hat eine Vogel!
means something like:
I can't believe that stupid expression!
He [Gerhard Schroeder] has to do his homework! He's crazy! ( I think at this point, German people point to their temples, suggesting they have a bat in the bellfry; hence, "he has a bird". My German teacher told me this was highly offensive and that if you made such a gesture to someone on the street you could be arrested!)
PS Liebe Duchess, soll man nicht sagen "Er hat einen Vogel"?
Yes, LD, you are probably right! My grammer is atroucious in German...darn indirect objects!
Yeah, it is a dirty election...and they intend to make it painful for die auslander (foreigners) as well. My Highschool German teacher, ,Frau Thom is probably turning over in her grave right now.
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oh dear...I really messed up the code in that one...pls forgive me hosts.
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Latest from BBC website on this story.
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It is worth bearing in mind that this elction has alredy had a poster banned. One of the main parties (unfortunately, I forget which one) in a campaign to get young people to vote and show they were'hip' and 'trendy' used the slogan
'Today I'll have a shag, tomorrow I'll have a joint, and the next day...I shall vote'!
![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif) That would get me voting!
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RuthW
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Yeah, right. The way the woman looks is relevant.
Leaving aside all references to Hitler, here's another look at tactics and the timing of war and elections: Matt Miller's commentary. Miller is a moderate, in case anyone is wondering, and says that Bush is sabre-rattling now because mid-term elections are coming up, but that the real deal will come in two years when Bush is running for re-election.
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Equinas
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quote:
Originally posted by RuthW:
Yeah, right. The way the woman looks is relevant.
Leaving aside all references to Hitler, here's another look at tactics and the timing of war and elections: Matt Miller's commentary. Miller is a moderate, in case anyone is wondering, and says that Bush is sabre-rattling now because mid-term elections are coming up, but that the real deal will come in two years when Bush is running for re-election.
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And Bill Clinton bombed the aspirin factory to deflect from the Lewinski debacle. Maybe, maybe not, timing looked suspicious, but who really knows?
If the floppy disk is verifiable, then it's deplorable (and both parties play these games), but it seems to me that the Sadaam issue has been on the burner for a long time. I also submit the possibility of psychological warfare, unsettling him into making mistakes and showing his hand.
Politics, ![[Mad]](mad.gif) !
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RuthW
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quote:
Originally posted by Equinas:
And Bill Clinton bombed the aspirin factory to deflect from the Lewinski debacle. Maybe, maybe not, timing looked suspicious, but who really knows?
If the floppy disk is verifiable, then it's deplorable (and both parties play these games), but it seems to me that the Sadaam issue has been on the burner for a long time. I also submit the possibility of psychological warfare, unsettling him into making mistakes and showing his hand.
I would by no means absolve Bill Clinton of suspicious timing in that bombing.
The Saddam Hussein issue has indeed been on the burner for a long time - the question is, why is the heat being turned up now?
And I doubt he's sensitive enough to be rattled into making mistakes. It bugs the crap out of me that Bush dismissed the Iraqi proposal of inspections without conditions - I can't see why we don't call Hussein's bluff and go in there and start inspecting.
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quote:
'Today I'll have a shag, tomorrow I'll have a joint, and the next day...I shall vote'!
The shag, joint and vote party are the former communists, IIRC.
But they have nothing on the Greens who had a beezer of a poster advertising lesbian and gay rights - it's ripped off from a saucy 16th century painting.
Warning - contains gratuitous nudity and nipple tweaking!
For those who don't like gratuitous nudity etc. here are some
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It is ludicrous to say that Bush is acting like Hitler but whatever the real motives for Bush administration wanting to attack Iraq, America's position is compromised by its attitude to the Palestinian issue and I think this enables people like the German polititian refered to above feel that they can get away such comments.
I don't understand how Bush can talk about Saddam opening flouting U.N resolutions for over ten years when Israel has been opening breaking U.N. resolutions regarding Palestine for over thirty years.
Similarly, Iraq may threaten the stability of the region but is'nt Israel doing the same in that, by its treatent of the Palestinians both in it's own territory and the occupied territories Israel is fueling arab extremism and Islamic fundamentalism?
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Equinas
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quote:
Originally posted by RuthW:
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The Saddam Hussein issue has indeed been on the burner for a long time - the question is, why is the heat being turned up now?
And I doubt he's sensitive enough to be rattled into making mistakes. It bugs the crap out of me that Bush dismissed the Iraqi proposal of inspections without conditions - I can't see why we don't call Hussein's bluff and go in there and start inspecting.
I hope because of new and classified intelligence.
Saddam might be paranoid enough, though. I heard something in passing (news channel on while doing other things), that he's now keeping a distance from his Republican Guard (worried about a coup?). I only heard it once, but would be interesting if true. The inspections "without conditions" were only of military sites (or so I've heard), which is a condition. There is apparently much interest in Hussein's multitude of new "palaces" and skepticism about the primary use being habitation. Again, wondering if this is based on classified intelligence.
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Of course, the unstated irony in this entire thread seems to me this:
Hitler didn't do it.
Evil H did a lot of things, but start a war to take people's attention off his domestic agenda?
The war WAS his domestic agenda.
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St. Punk the Pious
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Excuse me Lifeman, but who has been committing terrorism against who in the Middle East?
If a group of people is trying to massacre as many of your people as they can without good justification, U.N. resolutions kinda go out the window. And heck, Israel not long ago practically handed the West Bank to Arafat on a platter. Look what good it did them.
So I really don't give much credence to whining about treatment of Palestinians. Until they stop supporting terrorism against Israel, they deserve a hell lot more "treatment." Ditto for others who support terrorism.
By the way, some past U.N. resolutions concerning Israel have been flat out anti-semitic. So guess what you can do with them?
I've had it with blaming Islamic terrorism on the U.S. and Israel. Terrorists and their supporters are that way because they are evil people. Got it? Yes, some people are more evil than others. ![[Eek!]](eek.gif)
Whoever wants to flame me, go ahead. This ticks me off so much, I don't give a flip.
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Lifeman
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I accept some of what you say Mark but if you feel strongly about terrorism, don't forget that Israel was founded on terrorism and that included blowing up innocent civilians. When Begin blew up the King David Hotel in Jerusalem, among the 90 people he killed were 19 Jews! Does'nt that sound a bit like Palestinian suicide bombing (sacrificing your own people as well as other innocents in order to free your country?).
Regarding Baraks offer two years ago, I could'nt understand myself why Arafat would'nt accept the deal until I learned that it was actual not statehood that was on offer. The Palestians are a people just like other indiginous people who basically just want the right to self-determination. Is'nt that what the American Revolutionary War was about?
Over one million Palestinians are living in Israel as second class citizens (I saw this first hand when I stayed in the Arab quarter of Jerusalem). Regarding the few million others who live in the occupied territories, I cannot condonw suicide bombing but I don't know what other options the Palestinians have when there are many Israelis who believe they have a divine right to drive them of the land.
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As this looks like we might be going down the road of Israel, people might find having a look at an earlier discussion on this thread helpful.
Let the hellfire continue.
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doctor-frog
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quote:
Originally posted by duchess [green]:
Ich kann diese dumme Aussage nicht glauben!
Er [Gerhard Schroeder] braucht seine Hausaufgaben zu machen! Er hat eine Vogel!
Doch, doch, liebe Duchess. Er hat keinen Vogel.
Heir hab' ich ein kleines Gedicht, das viel ueber klienen George Bush zu sagen hat.
Der Fliegende Frosh
Wenn einer, der mit Muehe kaum
gekrochen ist auf einem Baum,
schon meint, dass er ein Vogel waer',
dann irrt sich der.
Genau.
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St. Punk the Pious
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(in a redneck voice) SPEAK ENGLISH!!
Seriously, Lifeman, although I still very much disagree with you, I apologize for dumping on you. Your post was kinda the last straw for me on this issue, but unfortunately you had no way of knowing it at the time, heh. Sorry for taking things out on you.
I agree with Nightlamp that it's best we get back on topic. There's probably an Israel thread or two in dead horses anyway.
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Just so you know Mark, our current Government is not reflecting the views of the majority of British people at the moment : I don't want to be in NATO either, because I don't wish to be allied to the US
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Merseymike: After all those years of our "special relationship," and this is how you break up with me -- with a two-line "Dear John" letter on a computer bulletin board.
And don't tell me. I know the type. The other country is younger than I am. And more attractive. And agrees with whatever you say. And smiles up at you adoringly no matter what kind of crazy idea comes out of your mouth. And is willing to pick up after you on the floor of the U.N. General Assembly.
It's Canada, isn't it? Don't think I didn't see you two exchange looks behind my back. But don't come running to me when Canada does to you what it did to England.
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I need you to translate too...I read the literal translation about the tree and I am so lame it makes no sense (but it does rhyme in the mostly logical language of German).
I was locked out of SoF for awhile...need to steady on here...
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Jonah the Whale
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quote:
Originally posted by texas.veggie:
Der Fliegende Frosh
Wenn einer, der mit Muehe kaum
gekrochen ist auf einem Baum,
schon meint, dass er ein Vogel waer',
dann irrt sich der.
Genau.
Duchess, something like:
The Flying Frog
If someone, who with difficulty
Can only just climb a tree
Decides that he is a bird
Then he has erred.
Sorry, it doesn't sound great. I was trying to keep it rhyming. Oh well. Let's see what babelfish makes of it:
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If one, that hardly crept with trouble on a tree, already means that he errs a bird more waer ', then that.
Or, changing waer' to waere, we get
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If one, that hardly crept with trouble on a tree, already means that it would be a bird, then that errs.
Which is a lot better than some of the machine tanslations I've seen.
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But it is a strategy that was used by Hitler. It might be rude to point it out but it was factually true. Hard to see how anyone could object, really.
It was also used, very successfully, by Margaret Thatcher.
Anyway, the German elections are over, and the good guys won, just.
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doctor-frog
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Yeh, I always translate it in prose:
When someone, with a great deal of effort, drags himself up to the top of a tree, and then reckons he's a bird ... well, he's wrong.
Good job Cuttle. I never could get the knack of making it rhyme in English!
You all get the gist, anyway.
And genau = exactly.
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doctor-frog
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Originally posted by MarkthePunk:
(in a redneck voice) SPEAK ENGLISH!!
Boy, howdy, I'll tell ya whut...
howzzat?
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quote:
Originally posted by MarkthePunk:
You mean the bad guys who ran a dirty America-bashing, Iraq-appeasing campaign won.
Genau.
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quote:
You mean the bad guys who ran a dirty America-bashing, Iraq-appeasing campaign won.
Would you expect anything better from America's self-professed allies?
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I don't want to be in NATO either, because I don't wish to be allied to the US
I could say something trite like "We should have let the Germans have you," but I have the feeling that most Britons aren't as violently, back-stabingly anti-American as you...
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doctor-frog
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Why is it a necessary to suppose that if someone doesn't care to see Iraq bombed into oblivion that they therefore must needs be anti-American?
I can't speak for Britons, because I'm not one. But my desire to see a measured response (and for that matter, young Bush out of the White House) because in fact I do love my native land and I still harbour hope that we owe it to ourselves and our heritage to be better than a bunch of knee-jerk, blinkered bullies.
So there.
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Actually, texas.veggie, I think the classification of anti-American had less to do with not wanting to bomb Iraq into oblivion than the statement about not wishing to be allied to the US.
I could be wrong. It would be a first in the history of the universe, but it's within the realm of possibility. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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I'd like to call a vote.
By show of hands, please indicate your support of Merseymike's request that he be allowed to secede from NATO and that he should henceforth be considered a non-ally of the United States.
All in favor?
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texas.veggie- I don't recall anyone saying that bombing Iraq into oblivion was in order.
For that matter, please define "measured response," as it seems like a senseless, basically meaningless phrase thrown out to avoid actually saying what needs to be done about Iraq and it muderous dictator.
However, Erin was correct in saying that it's not a support of an Iraq invasion that I was using as the litmus test for Anti-Americanism.
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I don't think it's necessarily a case of not wanting to be allied with the US but being allied to a USA that is being run by the moronic George Bush.
Clinton (if he were still in power) I'm sure would not be looking forward to bombing Iraq (probably killing several times the amount of inncoent civilians who died on 9/11 in the process).
I can't help but be amused that Bush talks about Saddam being a dictator when Bush himself was hardly elected democratically.
The best solution would be for both Saddam and Bush to stand down and make way for more able leaders with less blood lust.
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Zach82
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quote:
Clinton (if he were still in power) I'm sure would not be looking forward to bombing Iraq (probably killing several times the amount of inncoent civilians who died on 9/11 in the process).
Um, watch the news pal. Former President Clinton is ~for~ the Iraq invasion. So stop talking out yer ass.
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I can't help but be amused that Bush talks about Saddam being a dictator when Bush himself was hardly elected democratically.
Oh, my. The lunatic vibes eminating from your post make my head throb. ![[Puke]](graemlins/puke.gif)
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The best solution would be for both Saddam and Bush to stand down and make way for more able leaders with less blood lust.
Get back to us on this when you stop reading whatever awful brain washing propaganda you base your ideas on.
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quote:
Originally posted by Lifeman:
Clinton (if he were still in power) I'm sure would not be looking forward to bombing Iraq (probably killing several times the amount of inncoent civilians who died on 9/11 in the process).
This would be all well and good except for the fact that, well, you know, he DID.
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Oh, and I'll be more than happy to take Merseymike at his word that he doesn't want to be allied to the US, regardless of who the president is. We're not particularly fond of HIM, either.
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Lifeman, when did you switch from comedic assessment to stand-up? Your new material's not bad - I mean it's funny and all, but it's been done to death already.
Don't give up on your dream! ![[Sunny]](graemlins/flowerface.gif)
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St. Punk the Pious
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All right, Lifeman, linking Hussein and Bush like that is on the same level as the German ex-justice minister's comment linking Bush and Hitler.
After your posts on this thread, you're not exactly in a position to call anyone moronic.
I take back my past apology, by the way. I now see you richly deserved what I said and more.
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Lifeman
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I guess most of you stateside seem to think that Bush is right to go to war with Iraq. Personally, I hope he does'nt because the consequences will effect everyone.
The West has feared ever since Khomeni took over Iran in 1980 that a similar revolution could take place elsewhere in the Gulf. The arab world does'nt generally like Saddam but they hate the West deciding what happens in their own back yard and another Gulf war could be just enough to spark off such a revolution in a country like Saudi Arabia where the ruling regime is decidedly unpopular. Apart from anything else, that's one thing the world economy needs like a hole in the head.
Also, if the West ousts Saddam, it's not as if another regime will just take over. Any puppet regime of The US and Britain will by definition be weak and surrounding countries like Syria and Iran just might seize the opportunity to expand their influence. Israel will certainly feel in a stronger position to intensify it's occupation of the West Bank and the whole region will certainly be less stable.
Yes, Clinton has sanctioned limited attacks against Iraq but a wholesale invasion is quite another matter (especially in terms of numbers of civilian deaths). It was'nt for no reason that US and British led alliance in 1991 decided not to press on to Baghdad. The resultant power vacuum that would have ensued was reason enough then not to oust Saddam. It's reason enough not to go for all out war now.
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Ut unum sint
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quote:
Originally posted by Zach82:
<snip>
Get back to us on this when you stop reading whatever awful brain washing propaganda you base your ideas on.
Zach
Zach, your fingers are moving but you are not typing anything. Your puerile attempt at a rebuttal ended up saying absolutely nothing. I would be embarrassed if I had agreed with you, as you only made yourself and your opinion look like the raving of an uneducated lunatic.
However, since I DISagree with your opinion, I don't care. Perhaps you ARE an uneducated lunatic.
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"Tis better to keep silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. - B. Franklin
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Suffering for Jesus since 1966.
WTFWED?
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Zach82
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I would be embarrassed if I had agreed with you, as you only made yourself and your opinion look like the raving of an uneducated lunatic.
*Yawn* It has nothing to do with my education or sanity. I can only provide sane and educated replies to people who give me sensible material to rebutt. ![[Embarrassed]](redface.gif)
Zach
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Don't give up yet, no, don't ever quit/ There's always a chance of a critical hit. Ghost Mice
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Lifeman
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Zach,
Perhaps my most recent posting might be sane or educated enough for you?
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Zach82
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Yes, very much. Good job.
Zach
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