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Posted by Squirrel (# 3040) on
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For all of you in the storms path, how are you coping? Any damage so far?
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on
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prayers ascending ![[Votive]](graemlins/votive.gif)
Especially for those missing from the (still, it seems) ill-fated Bounty.
[ 29. October 2012, 23:05: Message edited by: Banner Lady ]
Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on
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Yeah,, check-ins appreciated, if convenient.
Posted by Ariston (# 10894) on
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Still here, even as the lights flicker and I dig into the "but this requires electricity to microwave, right?" junk food stash. So long as the Internet stays up/the lights stay on, I can stave off the cabin fever with Foucault and reading other people's stories of storm panic.
Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on
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We had a three day power outage in my neighborhood during an horrific El Nino, and we wound up roasting weenies and cooking chili over the fireplace.
Keep warm!
[ 29. October 2012, 23:32: Message edited by: Kelly Alves ]
Posted by Robert Armin (# 182) on
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for all in NY, but especially Shipmates.
Posted by Pia (# 17277) on
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for all in Sandy's path tonight.
Posted by Nicolemr (# 28) on
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Worst that's happened here was a scary loud thump when something hit but didn't damage one of my windows. Aside from that, daughter and I are fine.
Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on
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Originally posted by Banner Lady:
prayers ascending
Especially for those missing from the (still, it seems) ill-fated Bounty.
Damn.
Posted by Freddy (# 365) on
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Here in Philadelphia there have been high winds, but they come and go. Not too much rain. Trees are down in the community, but most of us still have electricity. Worst should be over in a few hours.
Posted by Loquacious beachcomber (# 8783) on
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The storm isn't here yet, but lots of rain and high wind moving in. The locals have Christmas lights on big spruce trees, and tune them up each December, but have turned them on now to fight the fog; it is kind of eerie to watch the festive lights dance and sway in the wind. At least until the electricity goes out, expected tonight or tomorrow.
Posted by New Yorker (# 9898) on
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Power failing in Manhattan. Still on here. Very high winds with strong gusts. The cats are not amused. Prayers for all who are suffering much more than me.
Posted by comet (# 10353) on
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I have that feeling of anxious waiting I get when we storm up. hang tough folks, we're all pulling for you.
Posted by snowgoose (# 4394) on
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It looks like things should be improving here in a few hours. Y'all in the northeast will have a way worse time of us than we are having, I'm afraid.
Stay safe, everyone!
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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My niece is working in New Jersey at the moment; she posted pictures of chaotic supermarkets and taped-up windows on Facebook yesterday.
for her and everyone in Sandy's* path.
* My nephew is called Sandy and can't decide between feeling ![[Cool]](cool.gif)
and ![[Eek!]](eek.gif)
at having a hurricane named after him ...
Posted by Lothiriel (# 15561) on
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Pretty windy here in Toronto, and a death this evening from an airborne piece of debris. Lots of people without electricity.
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on
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for everyone in harm's way and for the clean up that will follow.
Posted by Ariston (# 10894) on
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Well, I'm still here, power, light, and everything; the lights aren't flickering, the wind is calming (mostly) and the rain isn't coming down in quite the same sheets as it was. I'd almost say that the very worst of the very worst has passed me, but that'd probably end up with me having a tree in my apartment tomorrow morning. So, while I'm still a tad nervous about the power, I wouldn't say I'm paranoid.
That said, the Washington Post's DC Live Shot is currently rather amusing.
Posted by Gill H (# 68) on
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Thinking of you all.
I know there's a new production of 'Annie' coming to Broadway - but who knew her dog could do so much damage...!
Posted by Hugal (# 2734) on
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Praying. Take care everyone
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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Top End Prayers emanating
Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Ariston:
That said, the Washington Post's DC Live Shot is currently rather amusing.
Interesting.
Posted by Aggie (# 4385) on
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Prayers for all of those affected
Posted by balaam (# 4543) on
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The devastation I've seen on the news is terrible. Not just the Eastern USA but as far inland as Toronto.
Praying for all.
Posted by Roseofsharon (# 9657) on
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Nephew & family recently moved to NY (Huguenot, which I think is Staten Island). Anyone know how things are there?
Posted by Moo (# 107) on
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It was quite windy last night, but now it's only around 25mph. There is about a half-inch of snow on the grass and on my car, but it's not sticking to the roads.
Here is a radar map. The blue is snow and the green is rain. I am very close to the southern edge of the snow area.
I was hoping the wind would take more leaves off my trees so that I could get them all raked up at once.
Moo
Posted by Ariel (# 58) on
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Originally posted by Nicolemr:
Worst that's happened here was a scary loud thump when something hit but didn't damage one of my windows. Aside from that, daughter and I are fine.
Hope things are still ok where you are?
Posted by snowgoose (# 4394) on
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Originally posted by Moo:
I was hoping the wind would take more leaves off my trees so that I could get them all raked up at once.
![[Overused]](graemlins/notworthy.gif)
Moo, you are amazing.
Posted by Ariston (# 10894) on
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Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
quote:
Originally posted by Ariston:
That said, the Washington Post's DC Live Shot is currently rather amusing.
Interesting.
"Sadly," they've fixed it since I last posted (though it's still rather nice and grey); they were having technical difficulties earlier, and were thus using a photo of a bright and sunny summer's day during the night of a hurricane.
Needless to say, I made it.
Posted by Anna B (# 1439) on
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Checking in from Fairfield, CT, where the beach area was evacuated but our neighborhood was not. Our house is on quite a steep hill, perhaps 100 feet above sea level if not more.
We have received several automated phone calls from the first selectman's (=mayor's) office keeping us posted. Apparently there are quite a few power lines and trees down all over town. It is dangerous to go out and we are under orders not to do so. The good news is that our house has power!
I am so grateful for: the police and other emergency folk working through the night to keep us safe; our aforementioned First Selectman; United Illuminating, the power company; and President Obama. God bless 'em.
Posted by Squirrel (# 3040) on
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From Queens, New York City...
Quite a few BIG trees down, but the Squirrels' Nest wasn't harmed. Some areas of NYC are without power; mass transit is at a standstill and most bridges and tunnels are closed. Don't know when I'll be back at work; ditto for the Mrs.
Our band was scheduled to do a Halloween gig tomorrow night in Manhattan, but we're canceling it.
Posted by Wesley J (# 6075) on
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guys
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on
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Sounds like the scariest Halloween ever. It was reported there were 50 million people without electricity last night. I cannot imagine what that means to those trying to get services back online.
I am also still trying to get my head around the thought of a WINTER hurricane. Is that unusual? Cyclones in Oz are invariably associated with summer, tropical storms and the monsoon season.
for all those now cleaning up, rebuilding and burying. It's a short time disaster with a long time recovery for many.
Posted by saysay (# 6645) on
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We (Delaware) had mandatory evacuations and a driving ban, but it wasn't as bad as I feared. Coastal areas are still evacuated and we're still assessing the amount of damage but up north it's mostly down trees and power outages. Not nearly as many as I thought given the leaves on the trees and whatnot.
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on
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Posted by balaam (# 4543) on
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Originally posted by Banner Lady:
I am also still trying to get my head around the thought of a WINTER hurricane. Is that unusual?
It is a summer hurricane, the sea is still warm where the hurricane formed. Sandy was originally a tropical storm. But coming North this warm storm has met a cold storm coming south. The result, a monster of a storm that is totally unpredictable.
Posted by PataLeBon (# 5452) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Banner Lady:
Sounds like the scariest Halloween ever. It was reported there were 50 million people without electricity last night. I cannot imagine what that means to those trying to get services back online.
I am also still trying to get my head around the thought of a WINTER hurricane. Is that unusual? Cyclones in Oz are invariably associated with summer, tropical storms and the monsoon season.
for all those now cleaning up, rebuilding and burying. It's a short time disaster with a long time recovery for many.
Hurricane season doesn't end until Nov 30. It's just very unusual to have one this strong this late, and Sandy had a lot of help from a front rolling in at the same time.
Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on
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Good God. Images from Jersey.
Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on
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Happily, despite dire warnings, it has been a non-event in Central Canada. Of course the lady who was clobbered and killed by a Staples ™ sign in TO probably had a different opinion. Must see what is happening in Atlantic Canada.
[ 31. October 2012, 00:46: Message edited by: PeteC ]
Posted by Lothiriel (# 15561) on
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Our power is back on, after 22 hours out. I can't imagine a week or more without power, like many many people in NY and NJ are facing.
I've had a lot of coffee today, stretching out the last of my laptop battery while using Starbucks WiFi.
Posted by Nicolemr (# 28) on
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Have no power in my apartment, but the rest of the house does have power so my genius daughter got the bright idea to run extension cords from the powered section to us (with permission of course). So I'm back on-line and all's well here. My family are all OK, and my neighborhood is not badly off, some trees down and a lot of limbs, but nothing worse.
It's pretty bad in some parts of the city though.
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on
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quote:
Originally posted by balaam:
quote:
Originally posted by Banner Lady:
I am also still trying to get my head around the thought of a WINTER hurricane. Is that unusual?
It is a summer hurricane, the sea is still warm where the hurricane formed. Sandy was originally a tropical storm. But coming North this warm storm has met a cold storm coming south. The result, a monster of a storm that is totally unpredictable.
Ahh...hence the "Frankenstorm" tag - makes sense now.
Very interested to see the graphs comparing Sandy with Irene, Yasi and Katrina. I was intimately acquainted with the fallout from Yasi as my mother lived at Cardwell where it crossed on to land. Sandy is the same intensity but about three times larger in diameter.
Cardwell is now a town half the size it was. Storm surges are different to inland flooding because of the salt left behind. The vegetation does not recover easily. Buildings and building materials even if left in tact corrode quickly. People leave because even if utilities come back quickly, the surge causes stinking sewerage to rise through everything. The place becomes unhealthy, and the infrastructure begins to implode as people leave, shops close and prices rise.
Storm surges are not fun. The five metre one at Cardwell changed life permanently. So far, Sandy's sea surge doesn't seem as high, but then the population affected is far far greater.
Hope the goodwill to pull together in the aftermath continues.
[ 31. October 2012, 05:06: Message edited by: Banner Lady ]
Posted by comet (# 10353) on
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Originally posted by Nicolemr:
Have no power in my apartment, but the rest of the house does have power so my genius daughter got the bright idea to run extension cords from the powered section to us (with permission of course). So I'm back on-line and all's well here. My family are all OK, and my neighborhood is not badly off, some trees down and a lot of limbs, but nothing worse.
It's pretty bad in some parts of the city though.
very glad to hear from you. kept thinking of you in your basement apartment and hoping for the best.
Posted by balaam (# 4543) on
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Originally posted by Banner Lady:
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Originally posted by balaam:
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Originally posted by Banner Lady:
I am also still trying to get my head around the thought of a WINTER hurricane. Is that unusual?
It is a summer hurricane, the sea is still warm where the hurricane formed. Sandy was originally a tropical storm. But coming North this warm storm has met a cold storm coming south. The result, a monster of a storm that is totally unpredictable.
Ahh...hence the "Frankenstorm" tag - makes sense now.
Further science bit:
A hurricane/tropical storm travelling North will have winds blowing from the South on the Eastern side and from the North on the Western side. When it meets a winter storm (winds travelling south) there will be a lot of cold winter storms on the Western side, where both winds are travelling the same direction. Expect lots of snow.
Ahead and West the winter storm winds will be sucked South and intensified, this is what happened in Toronto.
On the Eastern side tropical storm winds going north meet winter storm winds going south. Result chaos. In some places the winds will cancel, in others they will set up eddies. The storm could miss one place but hit another a few miles away with doubled intensity. Totally unpredictable, all the meteorologists can give you is a best guess.
Posted by balaam (# 4543) on
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Good to hear from shipmates who are through the worst. Still praying.
Posted by Moo (# 107) on
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Here is an article about conditions in New York City.
Moo
Posted by Freddy (# 365) on
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In Philadelphia I think about half the people are still without power. At least, we don't have power. So we are all scrounging around to people and places who have it!
The wind on Monday night was amazing! Not much rain but the trees whipped around like noodles all night. In the morning we saw that huge trees were down everywhere. Only a few hit houses, but power lines are down on many streets. This is a heavily wooded area.
Looks like Halloween trick-or-treating won't be possible tonight. I am trying to move it to Saturday!
Posted by Pine Marten (# 11068) on
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Glad to hear Shipmates are checking in. Prayers ascending for all from this side of the Pond.
Posted by Anna B (# 1439) on
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A hearty THANK YOU for the prayers---we certainly need them!
Posted by Squirrel (# 3040) on
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I spent two hours waiting for a bus going towards Manhattan this morning. All the buses were packed, and passed us by. There were lines at each stop going around the block. So I went home.
Posted by Heavenly Anarchist (# 13313) on
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Posted by Ruudy (# 3939) on
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prayers for bountiful food and heat and coffee
Posted by malik3000 (# 11437) on
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It is now that the storm has gone and people are trying to recover and more now comes to light i am struck by just how awful the extent of this storm's destruction has been. What an awful night it must have been for the folks in New Jersey and Staten Island.
Posted by New Yorker (# 9898) on
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There are a lot of sad stories arising out of hurricane Sandy, but this one, in particular, really hurts.
Posted by Moo (# 107) on
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Meanwhile, many people think that the NYC administration has its priorities wrong.
Moo
Posted by Lothiriel (# 15561) on
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Thank God they've come to their senses. Unbelievable that Bloomberg & co. would even consider letting the marathon go on.
Posted by malik3000 (# 11437) on
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I'm not a big fan of Bloomberg and i thought that letting the Marathon go on was a bad idea, but perhaps in fairness, i have to note that while it was evident from the start that things were bad, it seems like it's taken several days for the full extent of how bad they are to come out. It seems like day by day new more catastrophic destruction is revealed. For example, i didn't realise just how extensive the Jersey coast damage was until more news and images came, nor did i realise at first how truly horrible things were in parts of Staten Island, til the couple of days.
Again
[ 03. November 2012, 17:07: Message edited by: malik3000 ]
Posted by Lothiriel (# 15561) on
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Yeah, but -- Bloomberg is right in the centre of things, and presumably he was getting frequent briefings since Monday directly from emergency services on the extent of the disaster. It was clear by Wednesday that available resources had to be directed to the residents of his city, and not to the visitors who hadn't yet arrived.
He was trying to emulate Guiliani by going ahead with the marathon in the wake of disaster, referring to 9/11 -- but in that case, the marathon was two months after the disaster, and 9/11 didn't have such widespread physical effects on people's homes and neighbourhoods.
Posted by malik3000 (# 11437) on
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You make a good point Lothiriel. After I posted the above it occurred to me that although I followed the progress of the storm alot on the weather Channel, CNN, MSNBC, etc., the mayor surely had to be privy to more information sources then I would be.
Something that annoys me about coverage of Sandy in the U.S. media. In this case I am not as annoyed as I usually might be since the U.S. was in this case hit particularly hard, but as usual for U.S. media Planet Earth seems to end at U.S. borders. Sandy did terrible damage in parts of the Caribbean, especially poor already-battered Haiti, and little was said in the U.S. media. And while the U.S. media showed the remarkable Sandy-caused turbulence on Lake Michigan in Chicago, I heard not one single word about Toronto, not at all far from the U.S. border, and closer to New York than Chicago is, and Toronto had at least one Sandy-related death, and quite a few people lost power.
But I apologize if the above strays into the Purgatorial realm, so I'll gripe no further.
I will say that when I saw images of the waves in Chicago, it was quite amazing, since I'd never seen waves like that on the Great Lakes, and I immediately thought about Lake Ontario since for an all-too brief time in the 70s Toronto was my home and from that ancient era I have very pleasant memories of the ferry to City Island Park.
[ 04. November 2012, 18:22: Message edited by: malik3000 ]
Posted by Nicolemr (# 28) on
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I am happy to report that thanks to a team of lovely folks from Florida we now have our power again. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
Posted by Moo (# 107) on
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There are still problems with distributing aid.
Moo
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