Ship of Fools: Anglo-Catholic or High Church churches in Rome?

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Posted by k-mann (# 8490) on :

Are there any Anglo-Catholic or High Church churches in Rome? I'm going there this weekend, and would love to go to a Mass were I can partake of communion.

Posted by Zach82 (# 3208) on :

Anglican services of any kind are limited. St Paul's Within the Walls is TEC and All Saints is CoE. There is a Swedish Lutheran church too, if you are in the mood for Porvooing it.

Posted by dj_ordinaire (# 4643) on :

All Saints (near the Spanish Steps) is rather remarkable - one walks into the red-brick neo-gothic interior and suddenly one is transported to an unassuming English parish church. It seemed eminently MotR with its embroidered kneelers and memorials to dead colonels. It is quite a surprise to leaf and find oneself back in the Eternal City rather than, say, Northampton.

So not, perhaps, what you are looking for!

Posted by Zach82 (# 3208) on :

I've never been to Rome, but according to the pictures St Paul's is very beautiful. It's a little Italian Romanesque number with lots of Pre-Raphaelite mosaics.

Posted by Utrecht Catholic (# 14285) on :

The two Anglican Churches in Rome are beautiful buildings,and the Sung Eucharist is the main sevice in both of them.
Chasuble,acolytes,good choir,what else can you want.
Rome is not London or New-York, where you can find many Anglican Churches of different traditions,certainly in the British Capital.

Posted by Enoch (# 14322) on :

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Originally posted by dj_ordinaire:
All Saints (near the Spanish Steps) is rather remarkable - one walks into the red-brick neo-gothic interior and suddenly one is transported to an unassuming English parish church. It seemed eminently MotR with its embroidered kneelers and memorials to dead colonels. It is quite a surprise to leaf and find oneself back in the Eternal City rather than, say, Northampton.

So not, perhaps, what you are looking for!

I think if I was in some corner of a foreign field, that is probably exactly what I'd be looking for.

Posted by Angloid (# 159) on :

All Saints (the C of E one) and St Paul's within the Walls (the TEC one) are both beautiful buildings designed by the well-known English architect G E Street, though in very different styles. The former is reminiscent of All Saints' Margaret Street; the latter could pass for a genuine Italian basilica.

The liturgy in both could be described as 'sunny side of central' ; all the catholic essentials but probably no incense (though I imagine it is used occasionally in both churches). The last time I was at All Saints they used the 'traditional' language CW rite whereas I think St Paul's uses 1979 BCP rite 2.

If you're looking for exotic liturgy there are plenty of places in Rome to find it! If you want to worship, and receive communion, as an Anglican I can't think anyone would be offended by either of these two.

Posted by dj_ordinaire (# 4643) on :

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Originally posted by Enoch:

quote:
Originally posted by dj_ordinaire:
All Saints (near the Spanish Steps) is rather remarkable - one walks into the red-brick neo-gothic interior and suddenly one is transported to an unassuming English parish church. It seemed eminently MotR with its embroidered kneelers and memorials to dead colonels. It is quite a surprise to leaf and find oneself back in the Eternal City rather than, say, Northampton.

So not, perhaps, what you are looking for!
I think if I was in some corner of a foreign field, that is probably exactly what I'd be looking for.

I imagine it is a similar feeling to that of a Roman visiting the Brompton Oratory, but in reverse!

Posted by Triple Tiara (# 9556) on :

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Originally posted by Angloid:
If you're looking for exotic liturgy there are plenty of places in Rome to find it!

You think? I always find it hard to find anything exotic. I would say, to use Anglican terms, most of Rome is Low Church dressed in baroque vestments.

Posted by Angloid (# 159) on :

On reflection, you're probably right, TT. But I am assured (by a former director of the Anglican Centre) that central Rome is very much pukka by-the-book liturgy (and attitudes), whereas suburban parishes, like most of continental Europe, are much more laid-back.

Posted by dj_ordinaire (# 4643) on :

The Lateran Basilica have a rather grand sung Mass at 10 on Sundays with 'all the trimmings', I think.

Posted by Ecclesiastical Flip-flop (# 10745) on :

I tried to google times of Masses at St. Peter's Basilica but so far, without success. We can try doing the same for St. Mary Major, St. John Lateran and St. Paul's outside the walls, where we are sure to discover at least one Solemn Mass on Sundays and solemnities - maybe daily.

Regarding the two Anglican churches of All Saints and St. Paul's within the Walls, the websites show times of early morning Sunday Eucharists and the main Sunday service (nowadays always a Eucharist - Matins having disappeared, apparently) at 10.30. All Saints has Choral Evensong on the first Sunday in the month at about 5 o'clock as an additional service. St. Paul's has a Eucharist in Spanish each Sunday at 1 o'clock, as well.

Posted by Thurible (# 3206) on :

On my one trip to Rome, the Low Masses at St Mary Major were quite, erm, something. Whether they had priest visiting from the suburbs (pace Angloid's source, I'm not sure...

Thurible

Posted by Sober Preacher's Kid (# 12699) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Ecclesiastical Flip-flop:
I tried to google times of Masses at St. Peter's Basilica but so far, without success. We can try doing the same for St. Mary Major, St. John Lateran and St. Paul's outside the walls, where we are sure to discover at least one Solemn Mass on Sundays and solemnities - maybe daily.

Regarding the two Anglican churches of All Saints and St. Paul's within the Walls, the websites show times of early morning Sunday Eucharists and the main Sunday service (nowadays always a Eucharist - Matins having disappeared, apparently) at 10.30. All Saints has Choral Evensong on the first Sunday in the month at about 5 o'clock as an additional service. St. Paul's has a Eucharist in Spanish each Sunday at 1 o'clock, as well.

I thought you needed a ticket to get into St. Peter's for a Mass. The place is just that popular.

Posted by Triple Tiara (# 9556) on :

Only for large events. Sunday Mass is not usually that well attended. Several hundred but no more.

And to avoid confusion, a ticket is free for the large events.

[ 12. October 2012, 19:32: Message edited by: Triple Tiara ]

Posted by Anglican_Brat (# 12349) on :

Incidentally, the director of the Anglican Centre of Rome will be visiting my shack, next week.

The Anglican Centre does have a Eucharist on Tuesday:

http://anglicancentre.churchinsight.com/

Posted by Ceremoniar (# 13596) on :

The Sunday High Mass at St. Peter's Baslca is celebrated at the altar of the chair, which is behind the high altar. The Mass (10:15 or so) is the conventual Mass for the canons.

Posted by Corvo (# 15220) on :

I use to live in Rome and worshipped at All Saints and occasionally St Paul's. I think if I lived there now I would go to the Caravita (I am still an Anglican).

[ 13. October 2012, 18:05: Message edited by: Corvo ]

Posted by DitzySpike (# 1540) on :

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Originally posted by Corvo:
I use to live in Rome and worshipped at All Saints and occasionally St Paul's. I think if I lived there now I would go to the Caravita (I am still an Anglican).

Thank you for the link! Great pictures and the write up from John Allen is moving.

Posted by Corvo (# 15220) on :

quote:
Originally posted by DitzySpike:

quote:
Originally posted by Corvo:
I use to live in Rome and worshipped at All Saints and occasionally St Paul's. I think if I lived there now I would go to the Caravita (I am still an Anglican).
Thank you for the link! Great pictures and the write up from John Allen is moving.

I get back to Rome now and then and was last at the Caravita in July. I hope other SofF subscribers might visit and report back. I would love to find somewhere like it in London.

Posted by Amazing Grace (# 95) on :

Thanks for that link! I was delighted to see Mother Temp there in the photo gallery and if I am ever in Rome on a Sunday, that will be near the top of my list!

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