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Posted by Clotilde (# 17600) on :
 
Well we began Advent today. A solo voice began Morning Eucharist singing the first verse of 'Creator of the starry night' (NEH 1).

All in purple. Advent hymns. Restraint. Lots of waiting talk (!). Advent candle 1 lit at the end by a child, with a simple prayer.

Lovely!

How was it for you?
 
Posted by Olaf (# 11804) on :
 
We had one Advent hymn, one Christmas hymn, and a general one related to the Gospel. As is our local practice, a family* came forward to light the candle at the beginning of the service. I was disappointed (but not surprised) that we had the Gloria, as I love the symbolic anticipation of saving it for the feast, and also that we didn't have the Nicene Creed come back. Proper liturgics (i.e. those that aren't made up locally, irrespective of tradition) are not a strong suit amongst Lutheran leaders.

*It need not be relatives. Sometimes it's just a couple people who usually sit near each other at worship. Today it did happen to be a father, mother, and two small children.
 
Posted by The Silent Acolyte (# 1158) on :
 
Great Litany sung in procession around the church with smoke. This took the place of the prayers of the people.

Otherwise, we just let the propers for Advent I do their job.


Oh. And, the dratted Advent wreath had one candle lighted.
 
Posted by Hart (# 4991) on :
 
We incorporated our blessing of the Advent Wreath and lighting of the first candle into the prayers of the faithful, as suggested by the Book of Blessings. it does seem odd to me to have it unlit throughout the Liturgy of the Word, but it's what's in the book, and it is a very nice rite. New Mass setting for Advent (Steve Warner's Mass of Charity and Love, which seems to fit the Advent mood well). Opened with O Come, o come and closed with Wake, O Wake and Sleep no Longer, which went well with the second reading. I preached on running as the Christian form of waiting, drawing on the Collect as my primary text and reinforcing that with images from the Isaiah and Romans readings.
 
Posted by Galilit (# 16470) on :
 
Advent wreath (all RED, grrrr!), "O Come, O come...", "Armour of light" Collect (Yay!), and World AIDS Day (African Stole - dark blue with red AIDS ribbons and African Table cloth ditto)
 
Posted by Beeswax Altar (# 11644) on :
 
I'm at a new place this year.

-Purple vestments This surprised me because their is this odd bluish cope and chasuble hanging in the closet that I assumed was for Advent. Now, I'm wondering why we have an odd blueish (sort of blue and white tapestry looking) colored cope and chasuble hanging in the closet. I'll have to get to the bottom of the liturgical mystery.

-Advent wreath with purple and pink candles An acolyte lit the candle and the congregation said the sentence

-We didn't do the Great Litany. I'll save it for Lent. Maybe next year. The nave is a bit small to be doing much in the way of solemn processions. And yet, we have copes (not just the odd blue and white one). When will I wear the copes if we don't have processions?

-Advent hymns

-Special Prayers of the People for Advent

-Of course the prefaces and collects

-Switched to Prayer B

-Used the seasonal blessing for Advent from Book of Occasional Services
 
Posted by bib (# 13074) on :
 
We had the full Advent rituals at the morning services - Advent candle ceremony, Advent hymns etc, purple vestments and no Gloria. However, much to everyone's surprise 9 lessons and carols took place in the afternoon. I'm not sure who decided that should happen so early. Other years we have had an Advent carol service, but not this year. Anyone else experience this?
 
Posted by Jade Constable (# 17175) on :
 
Not at my usual church today (visiting friends, and them not being Anglican it isn't their usual church either). Lots of alleluias and the celebrant (the church is in interregnum) talked about the symbolism of the Advent wreath colours, talking about rose being for Advent 4 [Confused] Although I suppose at least they used the purple and rose candles.

The choir was very good though and I wanted to steal them for back home [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Prester John (# 5502) on :
 
I managed to combine all four of the readings for today into a semi-coherent sermon. That in and of itself is an accomplishment.
 
Posted by Hart (# 4991) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Beeswax Altar:
When will I wear the copes if we don't have processions?

Off the top of my head (YRMV*): committals; solemn celebrations of the Hours; weddings and funerals which aren't in the context of Eucharist; other things I'm probably forgetting about.

--
* Your rite may vary.
 
Posted by Barefoot Friar (# 13100) on :
 
Blue vestments, smoke, Matins Responsory, "Lo, He Comes With Clouds Descending", and an Advent litany I found on TextWeek. All in all, a wonderful service. Also, a larger crowd than usual -- I feel like I preach better when the crowd is larger.

Advent is here! I'm so happy!
 
Posted by Gwalchmai (# 17802) on :
 
Because Advent fell on the first Sunday of the month, we had a family Eucharistic, with a talk for the children on the subject of waking up and being ready for the birth of Christ; the point was illustrated by getting them all to play sleeping bunnies. It was good to have he children actively involved in our worship at the start of the Christian year.

We lit the first candle on the advent ring, of course (three purple, one pink and a white candle in the centre)

We sang the Taize chant "Wait for the Lord" for the intercessions - repeated many times while the priest intoned over us. During this we each held a tealight as a focus for our prayers and were enjoined to light it for 5 minutes every day between now and Christmas There was a plain chant sanctus, a profession of faith instead of the Nicene creed and a different Eucharistic prayer with more congregational responses.

All in all a very enjoyable and moving service let down by the choice of hymns: Make Way (a Graham Kendrick number - say no more) Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord (a good rousing hymn tangentially relevant to Advent, but why O why when there are so many wonderful traditional Advent hymns?) and we finished with Lo he comes with clouds descending. That is one of my favourite Advent hymns, but our church uses a hymn book where the editors have made pointless and irritating changes to the words, prompting much muttering to Mrs Gwalchmai in the pew next to me.

But all was redeemed this evening with an Advent Carol Service where we sang the advent hymns with the "correct" words and the readings and singing were interspersed with the Advent Antiphons.

All in all, an enjoyable and spiritually moving start to Advent.
 
Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on :
 
Advent wreath - the couple who lit the first candle came up in the procession.

O Come, o come... I hate that one [Mad]

Confiteor (in English), Kyrie in Greek

No Gloria [Biased]

Agnus Dei in Latin.

O Come, Divine Messiah [Yipee]

Everything else was Status quo ante except we were finished by 09h20, so we sailed out to tea and cookies.
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
Purple vestments, no Gloria,the Trisagion instead, statement of the Law and general confession moved to after Humble Access rather than just before the Gloria, 3 Advent hymns, lighting of the first Advent candle at the end of the procession, and the O antiphons in the prayers of the people. A good Advent sermon by a visiting preacher, a good-old-fashioned Low Church Prayerbook Anglican.
 
Posted by Olaf (# 11804) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Beeswax Altar:
I'm at a new place this year.

-Purple vestments This surprised me because their is this odd bluish cope and chasuble hanging in the closet that I assumed was for Advent. Now, I'm wondering why we have an odd blueish (sort of blue and white tapestry looking) colored cope and chasuble hanging in the closet. I'll have to get to the bottom of the liturgical mystery.

Sounds like you had a Marian-friendly predecessor somewhere in the past. Might be fun solving that mystery!
 
Posted by Beeswax Altar (# 11644) on :
 
I bet that's it. Haven't seen one like it before. I'll have a closer look at it tomorrow and see if I can find any Marian imagery.
 
Posted by Quam Dilecta (# 12541) on :
 
Many churches in the United States seem to believe that having a parishioner with a Hispanic surname is sufficient warrant for claiming the "Spanish Privilege" and using blue vestments for Marian feasts.
 
Posted by daisymay (# 1480) on :
 
We had it lit up with a candle about Advent, and there are many candles left also to be used every Sunday, and so there will be 4 and then 5, one in the centre.
 
Posted by L'organist (# 17338) on :
 
Family eucharist with baptism:

Started with the hymn The Advent of our God (NEH14)then we lit the first Advent candle before the choir sang Palestrina's Matin Responsory - real tingle factor at the end, the kids loved it. The Sunday School did a presentation on Advent, Christingles lit and handed out. After creed and prayers Children's Society boxes were brought up with the Offertory (Hills of the north, rejoice).

Proper office hymn for morning during communion -
Verbum supernum or High word of God - then Long ago, prophets knew (to Personent Hodie) and Bach's P&F in G minor (542) to finish it all off.
 
Posted by L'organist (# 17338) on :
 
quote:
posted by Gee D
...O antiphons in the prayers of the people...

[Eek!] O Antiphons before the 16th [Eek!]

Next you'll be having O come, O come, Emmanuel before the Third Sunday.
 
Posted by Jade Constable (# 17175) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by L'organist:
quote:
posted by Gee D
...O antiphons in the prayers of the people...

[Eek!] O Antiphons before the 16th [Eek!]

Next you'll be having O come, O come, Emmanuel before the Third Sunday.

Had O Come, O Come Emmanuel yesterday!
 
Posted by Clotilde (# 17600) on :
 
World AIDS day Vigil not well attended. I wonder if this Day has served its purpose now?

We changed some of the Eucharist texts for Advent - different words at the fraction, and at the greeting.

Is Advent marked in your christian community in any way outside the church building? We were given take home material with a simple prayer and thought for each week in Advent, and the prayer on it was what we used as we lit the Advent candle on the wreath.
 
Posted by Hart (# 4991) on :
 
We give out the Little Blue Books from the diocese of Saginaw.
 
Posted by Liturgylover (# 15711) on :
 
My Advent began with a fabulous Advent Procession at St Paul's Cathedral on Saturday night. There is something so wonderful about sitting in a darkened cathedral with thousands of others in silence, eventually broken by the choir singing from the West End Timor et Tremor (Poulenc setting. There then followed a moving series of readings, anthems and congregational carols, with progression through the nave and trancepts corresponding with the increase in light and climaxing with a hearty "Lo! He comes with clouds descending".

Sunday was spent at St Mary Abbots 9.30am Sung Eucharist where the service began with a procession of lots of children to organ music and the lighting of the wreath ceremony. As well as the Advent Wreath and beautiful purple vestments, they mark the season by moving to plainsong for the chanting of the Psalm, and the Missa De Angelis setting for the Eucharist.

I received a text from my friend who discovered that Rowan Williams was preaching at St Augustine's Queen's Gate (down the read) and we delayed our mid-morning meeting to attend. Though under the HTB umbrella the traditional service there has been maintained with incense, robed choir, servers, and full choral setting (though there was no sign of an advent weath). Luckily too, the screens were all folded away out of sight. There seemed to be a warm fellowship between the longer-standing congregation and its newer members. Dr Williams' sermon was beautifully delivered, and he also presided at the Eucharist.

The evening ended with another Advent carol service at Holy Trinity Sloane Square following the sequence of 8 readings, choral anthems and congregational carols.

You won't be surprised to know that nearly all the Advent carols were covered - I am looking forward to singing Wake, O Wake in a couple of weeks time.
 
Posted by Clotilde (# 17600) on :
 
Gosh rich fayre, Liturgylover.

It made me wonder if someone could tell us about Advent Sunday in a remote location as a contrast!
 
Posted by Fr Weber (# 13472) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Beeswax Altar:
I bet that's it. Haven't seen one like it before. I'll have a closer look at it tomorrow and see if I can find any Marian imagery.

My previous parish had a white set with blue trim which was fairly obviously intended for Marian feasts. Alas, my current cure has just the four main colors in terms of vestments : violet, white, red and green. There is a rose set, of vastly inferior make, and a black set which is on permanent loan from a parish that never uses it, and that's that.

At least our violet set has a maniple, which the others don't.
 
Posted by Mamacita (# 3659) on :
 
Our Advent 1 was lovely, but certainly more MOTR than many of the observances described above.

We had "O Come" as the processional hymn. Following the choir and altar party, the procession included children from our church school carrying 7 small banners that depicted each of Christ's titles (Root of Jesse, etc.) I had done a lesson for them about the OT prophesies of what the Messiah might be like. We looked at symbols for each of the titles and then the children did a banner for each. They were quite proud of them and very solemn as I sent them down the aisle, one for each verse.

I suspect that isn't everyone in Eccles' cup of tea, but many in the congregation said it shed new light on the verses for them. And it certainly got the children started on an Advent frame-of-mind (as opposed to "countdown to Santa," which Christian Formation folks find a constant struggle!)

And the recessional hymn was "Lo, He Comes" to Helmsley, which always gives me goosebumps.
 
Posted by ChippedChalice (# 14057) on :
 
We had the litany in procession and Kyrie, followed by a mini-liturgy for lighting the Advent wreath complete w/ 2 verses of "O Come, O Come" (like all dubious things - found online), then the normal Solemn High Mass, along with the Exhortation read after the Sermon. Later that afternoon, Advent Lessons & Carols featuring our superb choir.
 
Posted by Beeswax Altar (# 11644) on :
 
quote:
originally posted by Mamacita:
I suspect that isn't everyone in Eccles' cup of tea, but many in the congregation said it shed new light on the verses for them. And it certainly got the children started on an Advent frame-of-mind (as opposed to "countdown to Santa," which Christian Formation folks find a constant struggle!)

I would have been all for it. Children making banners in Sunday school and then processing with them as part of the lesson is one thing. Adults of a certain age being attached to felt banners made before I was born is quite another. Plus, I would have had an excuse to wear the purple cope!
 
Posted by georgiaboy (# 11294) on :
 
Advent here in SC, USA began pretty splendidly, though I say it meself.

Organist played 3 settings of 'Nun komm, der HH' -- one by Gerald Near before the mass, 2 by JSB at end.

Pro hymn was 'Lo He Comes' to 'Helmsley' YEA!!

No Litany in Pro this year -- saving it for Lent, I guess.

Music of the Mass was Andrea Gabrieli Mass in F (Kyrie, Sanctus/Ben, Agnus Dei) No Gloria, of course, and creed sung to our usual chant setting.

Anthem was 'O Pray for the Peace' by John Goss, went well, but it's just sorta ho-hum, IMHO.

Closing hymn was -- wait for it -- O Come, O Come, Emmanuel, which I loathe and despise. Not only was it 15 days early, the Hymnal 1982 version is shoddy, and it seemed to take FOREVER! But it's by way of being a local sacred cow, so I won't have any luck getting it banned.

Rector trekked up the candle a bit by beginning the canon while Sanctus was being sung. When choir finished Sanctus he said 'until His coming again,' the bells rung, and then he pronounced the Words. After Elevation of the Chalice (and bells) choir began Benedictus and rector continued the prayer silently, and all finished more or less together. [Yipee]

It will be interesting to see what reactions come from the congo. This was the first time (in a while) that we've done this. Needless to say, I loved it. (But then I would, wouldn't I?)
 
Posted by Bishops Finger (# 5430) on :
 
Our usual morning Parish Mass, with lighting of the first Advent candle (we have 3 purple, one pink, and one white) accompanied by a suitable prayer gleaned from Common Worship. Advent hymns including The advent of our king; Lo, he comes; Come thou long-expected Jesus, but, of course, no Gloria.

Late-afternoon Liturgy of Penitence and Hope, based on the O Antiphons, with (despite extensive publicity)a single-figure attendance! Never mind - it's worth doing, and next year perhaps we'll simply decamp to the Lady Chapel....

Cracking homilies from Father at both services, I'm happy to report!

Ian J.
 
Posted by Forthview (# 12376) on :
 
hope this isn't too tangential but I've just learned that in Italy the Immaculate Conception will be celebrated next Sunday,8th December.Certainly since Vatican 2 the Sundays of Advent have had precedence over any other feast ,but the Congregation for Divine Worship has given the Italian church special permission
to celebrate this on the traditional day,8th December.Possibly it's because 8th December is a public holiday in Italy.
I also wonder if pope Francis will continue the tradition of going to the foot of the Spanish Steps to honour the Blessed Virgin by placing flowers at the foot of the statue of the Immaculate Conception.
The Virgin's statue has a huge wreath of flowers over her arm,but that is placed earlier on in the day by a Roman fireman on a turntable ladder.
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by L'organist:
quote:
posted by Gee D
...O antiphons in the prayers of the people...

[Eek!] O Antiphons before the 16th [Eek!]

Next you'll be having O come, O come, Emmanuel before the Third Sunday.

In fact we, like Mamacita, had that as our processional hymn. Good stuff.
 
Posted by dj_ordinaire (# 4643) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Gee D:
quote:
Originally posted by L'organist:
quote:
posted by Gee D
...O antiphons in the prayers of the people...

[Eek!] O Antiphons before the 16th [Eek!]

Next you'll be having O come, O come, Emmanuel before the Third Sunday.

In fact we, like Mamacita, had that as our processional hymn. Good stuff.
I had it twice!

I think it works well for the reflective beginning of Advent. Am happy for 'Lo He comes' to be saved for the time when the Christ-child is more imminent however.

No Wachtet Auf so far this year, which is disappointing.
 
Posted by ken (# 2460) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Gee D:
quote:
Originally posted by L'organist:
quote:
posted by Gee D
...O antiphons in the prayers of the people...

[Eek!] O Antiphons before the 16th [Eek!]

Next you'll be having O come, O come, Emmanuel before the Third Sunday.

In fact we, like Mamacita, had that as our processional hymn. Good stuff.
Advent Sunday isn;t Advent Sunday without it.

And then you bring it back at the proper time three weeks later.

I like to use it early in the midnight Christmas Eve service as well. Get them to quiet down and think a bit before its all shepherds and choirs of angels and silly sermons about presents.

(OK, OK, in even a moderatly well-run church the silly sermons about presents come on Christmas morning, and you actually get to talk about Jesus at the midnight service. But I have seen it flubbed)
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
It will probably reappear on the 3rd Sunday. It always has in the past, and there's no reason to think it won't this year. The rector has a pretty good idea of what would be done to him if it is not listed for Advents 1 and 3.
 
Posted by Galilit (# 16470) on :
 
I submitted (by e-mail) my "requests" re: stoles, hymns, Collects, etc on the Wednesday evening before Advent 1.
So far, so good.
 
Posted by dj_ordinaire (# 4643) on :
 
In the midst of the start of Advent, will anybody be commemorating St. Nicholas? He is the patron of the parish I currently attend although he doesn't get much of a look-in unfortunately!
 
Posted by Bishops Finger (# 5430) on :
 
Yes, we will - a recently-introduced monthly Mass at a new sheltered housing scheme in our parish will celebrate him tomorrow!

And a neighbouring church dedicated to him will celebrate him on Sunday evening at their monthly 630pm Solemn High Mass....

Ian J.
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dj_ordinaire:
In the midst of the start of Advent, will anybody be commemorating St. Nicholas? He is the patron of the parish I currently attend although he doesn't get much of a look-in unfortunately!

Doffed a hat to him at the Morning Office - not least because he provides the 26th anniversary of my priesting
 
Posted by Beeswax Altar (# 11644) on :
 
You were wearing a biretta?
 
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 
No comment, your honour
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
Congratulations on your anniversary Zappa. I took the hat-doffing as figurative rather than real…..
 
Posted by L'organist (# 17338) on :
 
posted by zappa
quote:
... the 26th anniversary of my priesting
Church in Wales, then?
 
Posted by Hart (# 4991) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dj_ordinaire:
In the midst of the start of Advent, will anybody be commemorating St. Nicholas? He is the patron of the parish I currently attend although he doesn't get much of a look-in unfortunately!

We did him at school Mass yesterday. I forgot to put my shoe out last night, so I don't know if he visited the rectory...
 
Posted by Baptist Trainfan (# 15128) on :
 
He visited our Manse this morning. Perhaps he's gone over to the Baptists.
 
Posted by georgiaboy (# 11294) on :
 
We celebrated St Nicholas rather modestly at our daily mass today -- a little confused; tab veil was white, but priest wore violet vestments. Used a generic set of propers (I think), and did a bit of a homily, leaving out all the fun, legendary parts.

I had a rather more festive celebration all my own last evening. Listened to a pretty good recording of Britten's 'St Nicholas' (not far after BB's centenary), remembered singing it as a uni student, and downed a couple glass of hearty red.
 
Posted by Fr Weber (# 13472) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by georgiaboy:


Rector trekked up the candle a bit by beginning the canon while Sanctus was being sung. When choir finished Sanctus he said 'until His coming again,' the bells rung, and then he pronounced the Words. After Elevation of the Chalice (and bells) choir began Benedictus and rector continued the prayer silently, and all finished more or less together. [Yipee]

Doesn't he know that he's supposed to say the Roman Canon silently while that's happening? [Smile]
 
Posted by Gildas (# 525) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dj_ordinaire:
In the midst of the start of Advent, will anybody be commemorating St. Nicholas? He is the patron of the parish I currently attend although he doesn't get much of a look-in unfortunately!

We did - by happenstance his feast coincided with our Friday morning Mass. We also, of course, prayed for the soul of Nelson Mandela. Oddly appropriate as the historical St. Nick is mainly remembered for whacking Arius in the kisser at the Council of Nicea whilst hagiographical Nick is remembered as Santa Claus. In the same way The Blessed Nelson (PBUH) was a much harder character than you would think from the eulogies currently being bestowed upon him. (This is not a criticism, btw, you do not survive 27 years in prison by being the Rev'd J. T. Flannel.)
 
Posted by Clotilde (# 17600) on :
 
We observed Nicholas at Evening Prayers, a brief bio about him, special reading from scripture for him, and a short 'litany of St Nicholas' - all said. 5 attended.

What about (Immaculate) Conception - does that feature at your place on Monday?
 
Posted by lily pad (# 11456) on :
 
Ordination last night - 2 new transitional deacons, 4 new priests. St. Nicholas mentioned in the Collect and sermon. Cathedral was fairly well full. Lots of good singing and a very festive time.
 
Posted by L'organist (# 17338) on :
 
Advent 2

This is the record of John and other suitable stuff.

Congregation even managed to sing along with O quickly come, dread judge of all, something I never thought they'd come to like.

Mariales by Hakim before the service as a nod to the conception of the BVM.
 
Posted by Clotilde (# 17600) on :
 
Has anyone attended a (Christmas) Carol service yet?

They've started up in our area.
 
Posted by Fr Weber (# 13472) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Clotilde:
We observed Nicholas at Evening Prayers, a brief bio about him, special reading from scripture for him, and a short 'litany of St Nicholas' - all said. 5 attended.

What about (Immaculate) Conception - does that feature at your place on Monday?

We commemorated it yesterday, though of course it didn't displace Advent II.

L'organist, why "This is the record of John" yesterday? Did it turn up as the Gospel in the CW rota? IIRC, it's the BCP Gospel for Advent IV...
 
Posted by L'organist (# 17338) on :
 
Because it went with one of the readings we had - and the PP praught on JtheB.

Looking at the CW lectionary, Advent IV looks Marian to me...

Anyway, I just get the readings and arranges suitable music, train the choir and plays the dots.
 
Posted by Emendator Liturgia (# 17245) on :
 
We had Gibbon's 'This is the Record of John' for the communion music yesterday, as the Australian (ala RCL) lectionary had Matthew 3.1-12 for the Gospel. 'On Jordan's bank' was the gradual hymn.

We started the service with the sound of the shofar and then a very good rendition of 'Prepare ye the way of the Lord', complete with visuals. One of the things that people commented on so favourably.
 
Posted by Bishops Finger (# 5430) on :
 
No Carol Services in Church as yet, but there's one at our neighbourhood sheltered flats (with the local Salvation Army band) this Thursday. Father will be leading the prayers, I believe.

We do have a Christingle Service planned for 19th December (to cater for our Scouts, Cubs, and Beavers - it brings their late Autumn session to an appropriate close), but no Carols in Church until Sunday 22nd!

Ian J.
 
Posted by Albertus (# 13356) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Clotilde:
Has anyone attended a (Christmas) Carol service yet?

They've started up in our area.

University carol service last Friday, at the Cathedral (more or less next door). I can see why- term dates and all that- but way too early for me, so I didn't go.

Just to add- is it me, or is Radio 3 getting Christmassy earlier than usual this year? ISTM that it is and I tend to assume it's part of the general dumbing down of the station, but perhaps it's as it ever was and it's only this year that I've noticed it?

[ 10. December 2013, 19:37: Message edited by: Albertus ]
 
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Emendator Liturgia:
We had Gibbon's 'This is the Record of John' for the communion music yesterday, as the Australian (ala RCL) lectionary had Matthew 3.1-12 for the Gospel. 'On Jordan's bank' was the gradual hymn.

Yes, that Gibbons is beautiful.
 
Posted by Clavus (# 9427) on :
 
quote:
...that Gibbons is beautiful...
and more appropriate than the anthem once advertised in the music list at Westminster Abbey:

quote:
'O clap your hands ye Gibbons'

 
Posted by Hart (# 4991) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Gee D:
quote:
Originally posted by Emendator Liturgia:
We had Gibbon's 'This is the Record of John' for the communion music yesterday, as the Australian (ala RCL) lectionary had Matthew 3.1-12 for the Gospel. 'On Jordan's bank' was the gradual hymn.

Yes, that Gibbons is beautiful.
Is that the one that I once heard a choir director refer to as 'anti-tone-painting'?

"Then said he plainly, <cue melisma-mania>I am not the Christ</cue>"
 
Posted by L'organist (# 17338) on :
 
Yes, that bit of Gibbons.

Clavus [Killing me]
 
Posted by Albertus (# 13356) on :
 
Not this one , then?
 
Posted by Clotilde (# 17600) on :
 
Please could a kind soul point me to a good translation of the great Advent antiphons - in one place / document, and accurate and usable in worship?

[Smile]
 
Posted by lily pad (# 11456) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Clotilde:
Please could a kind soul point me to a good translation of the great Advent antiphons - in one place / document, and accurate and usable in worship?

[Smile]

Clotilde, this does not answer your question at all and yet, it is so lovely that I had to post it in response. Hope you find what you are looking for!

Malcolm Guite - Advent Antiphons
 
Posted by L'organist (# 17338) on :
 
Clotilde

The Great O Antiphons are in the New English Hymnal - number 503. The full music edition has the dots which are fairly simple.

The 'translation' is fairly loose - that is to say a purist might object to some of it but it means they are usable.
 
Posted by Emendator Liturgia (# 17245) on :
 
3rd Sunday in Advent and still no carols at our shack as yet.

Today's offering includes Hanby's 'Who is he in yonder stall' as an audio-visual prelude; then 'Sing for joy, you advent people', 'O for a thousand tongues to sing' (sung to Nativity), 'Hark a herald voice is sounding', and recessional of 'O Come, O come, Emmanuel'. The sermon meditation is 'Conditor alme siderum’, the communion music is the Tudor anthem 'Rejoice in the Lord always',while the postlude is Bach's 'Gottes Sohn ist kommen.’
 
Posted by Clotilde (# 17600) on :
 
Thanks for the signpost to NEH for those antiphons. I think they are from 17th December now, not 16th isn't that right. The old Prayer Book has O Sapientia on 16th.
 


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