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Posted by Hugal (# 2734) on
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We found the song 'The Baker Woman' last night. We regularly sang it at my Junior School assemblies (this is a link to the song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRfUgR4_18M )
It took me right back to those days of standing in my school hall, singing the heck out of it.
Any songs remind you of your school assemblies and what do they bring back to you?
Posted by Lord Jestocost (# 12909) on
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"All things bright and beautiful", complete with the rich-man-at-his-castle verse, which is why even with that verse redacted the song as a whole still makes me shudder.
We also sang this little ditty, as best I can remember:
At half past three we home to tea
Or maybe at quarter to four
And [X] pairs of feet go running down the street
And in at the home front door
[probably a few more lines here]
Father [doing something doubtless gender stereotypical]
Mother by the stove
A little bit of quarrelling
But lots more love.
I'll risk the hostly rebuke for overly long quotation because I can't believe any copyright holder will actually own up to it.
Posted by Firenze (# 619) on
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If we had assemblies at my first Primary school, I don't remember them. I don't think we can have at the second, since it had no large communal space, just Victorian classrooms. The bigger school across the road to which you transferred at about P4 or 5 definitely had assemblies, since I remember reading the bit out of the Bible a few times - but any hymns have passed like water over sand. Ditto the next school. Secondary, I think it was A&M; only one sticks in my mind was at second secondary, where we always sang 'For those in peril on the sea' on the anniversary of the loss of the Princess Victoria.
Posted by Jack the Lass (# 3415) on
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Originally posted by Lord Jestocost:
At half past three we home to tea
Or maybe at quarter to four
And [X] pairs of feet go running down the street
And in at the home front door
We sang this too, although I don't remember anything beyond these 4 lines. The other thing I remember about primary school, not assembly per se, was the very regimented rhythm we used to say grace before school dinners. I can't render it in writing here, but can reproduce it in person if asked
Posted by Kitten (# 1179) on
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Originally posted by Lord Jestocost:
"All things bright and beautiful", complete with the rich-man-at-his-castle verse, which is why even with that verse redacted the song as a whole still makes me shudder.
We also sang this little ditty, as best I can remember:
At half past three we home to tea
Or maybe at quarter to four
And [X] pairs of feet go running down the street
And in at the home front door
[probably a few more lines here]
Father [doing something doubtless gender stereotypical]
Mother by the stove
A little bit of quarrelling
But lots more love.
I'll risk the hostly rebuke for overly long quotation because I can't believe any copyright holder will actually own up to it.
I remember it as being the cat that was by the stove
Posted by Tree Bee (# 4033) on
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I sometimes think of this little hymn and wish that life had been that simple!
Posted by Jengie Jon (# 273) on
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My First School (Primary plus first two years Junior) got adventurous to towards the end of the time I was there. So we had Stand up, Clap hands and The ink is black, the page is white.
However at Sunday School we in the primary age group still sang Hear the pennies droppin when we took up the offering.
Jengie
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Posted by Diomedes (# 13482) on
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I really enjoyed singing hymns at school! Too many to mention individually bar one. We lived in a fishing village, and at Primary School ( age 7 to 11) we sang 'When lamps are lighted in the town, the boats sail out to sea'. A lovely little hymn that I haven't heard since.
At Secondary School we were each issued with a small hymnbook (hard covers, blue with an embossed design of two deer drinking from a pool - ring any bells?) for which we had to make a fabric cover. I remember the cover-making drama better than the hymns. I was/am no needle woman!
Posted by Penny S (# 14768) on
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That'll be "Songs of Praise" I think.
I liked "When lamps are lighted", too. (We sang it in Folkestone, where the harbour was full of fishing boats.) It wasn't until much later that it occurred to me that the writer had a rather loose understanding of tides.
Same book -
"I love God's tiny creatures,
That wander wild and free.
The coral coated ladybird,
The velvet humming bee."
And no arguing about the theology, as with more recent creationist stuff.
And in secondary school, same book, branching out into "By the breadth of the blue that something something o'er us", and Something by Addison, also about creation, and words to Tallis "Thou wast O God, ... for hadst Thou needed anything, Thou couldst have nothing made."
[ 17. December 2013, 19:21: Message edited by: Penny S ]
Posted by Starbug (# 15917) on
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I loved 'When A Knight Won His Spurs' and 'He Who Would Valient Be'. I used to imagine the knight on his white charger going off to do battle against the evil dragons.
We had to cover our hymns books in paper. One girl put a new cover on each year without removing the ones underneath - by the time we got to Sixth form, she couldn't close the book any more. I covered mine in white anaglypta and coloured in the pattern.
Posted by venbede (# 16669) on
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I remember in my church primary school a hymn "Over the seas there are little black children". A bit redundant in British inner cities for the past forty years.
When I was a bit older it was A'n'M at prep school and English Hymnal Service Book and Public School Hymn Book at secondary school. All the main line MOTR hymns, with "Lord dismiss us" at the end of term. Yuck. Give me Moody and Sankey and Fr Faber any day.
Posted by daisymay (# 1480) on
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We had the whole children from the primary St. James' and St. Michael's school to our St. John's church, and they all performed, with having learned and knew their hymns to sing, as well as acting about what was going on before Jesus was born and about his mother and the animals that came down when the Angels told them. They also had many as angels. Then we sang together when they finished their story, and we then had communion for their parents and teachers and prayer on each child as they were each touched and blessed.
We sang together, "Once in royal David's city", "Glory, glory to God", "O little town of Bethlehem", "Holy, holy is the lord," "Jesus, Jesus, Jesus is the Lord," and "Hark the herald-angels sing."
The children did very well and had been taught very well in their school!
Posted by Pia (# 17277) on
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Oh gosh, yes... 'The ink is black; the page is white', and 'the coral-coated ladybird' one. Plus 'Lord of the Dance', and 'Red and yellow and pink and green; purple and orange and blue', and 'Kum ba ya', and 'Who built the ark?' and 'The animals went in two-by-two' [bit of a Noah theme, there - I was in West Cornwall; it rained a lot!] and 'Morning has broken'...
Posted by tessaB (# 8533) on
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I've been looking for the ones I remember online and not found them.
"Lift up thine eyes unto the hills, and see on Carmel's distant height - a new a brilliant star which thrills, our souls with it's celestial light"
That was Christmas started for me.
At the end of year the leavers always got serenaded at the special leavers assembly with -
"Go forth with God, the day has come, when thou must stand, the test of youth, Salvation's helm upon thy brow, go girded with the living truth."
Girls convent school if you hadn't guessed. We did sing To Be a Pilgrim, but it was always She who would valiant be.
Posted by Gill H (# 68) on
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Sounds like lots of people had the A&C Black books at school in the 70s.
'Think of a world without any flowers' anyone? I used to sing the recorder line as a descant when playing it at home with my friends.
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on
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These things shall be... was, I think, Songs of Praise #312 or 316 or something close and was our School Hymn - it isn't actually a hymn at all, despite being in SoP.
It goes very well to a cha-cha-cha beat!
Posted by Gracious rebel (# 3523) on
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One I recall from Primary school began:
'Come let us remember the joys of the town' then something about buses that drive up and down. Later in the first verse was 'dogs in the street', that rhymed with 'people we meet'. Had a nice jolly tune.
I also like the 'when lamps are lighted' one.
Plenty of kids these days just don't know any hymns at all, apart from those they sung at school - my partner's son (age 16) imagines that when I go to church I sing things like 'Autumn Days' or 'He's got the whole world in his hands'.
Posted by cheesymarzipan (# 9442) on
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One song we heard a lot of was 'Autumn Days' - in my village there was a children's singing/music/crafty festival every year in november and at least one seven year old would sing Autumn Days - probably because it was one of the first hymns we sang in school assembly in the autumn term so they already knew it.
We too had the blue hymn books was it Come and Praise or Songs of Praise?
In secondary school we had a few hymn sheets with about 6 hymns on each that we would rotate around - I think it was 'hymns the music teacher can arrange so that the school orchestra can play them'.
The main one I remember was 'What a friend we have in Jesus'. We used to sing 'There is a green hill far away' every Easter.
Posted by Penny S (# 14768) on
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I am hankering after A&C Blacks' Christmas collections, left in the school. I know one was "Merrily to Bethlehem", which had a lovely star carol "Who can name that bright flame...", but I can't remember the other one we had.* I wonder if they'd mind me borrowing them oveer Christmas, since they haven't had a concert this year.
We used the BBC books - Come and Praise, with CD accompaniment once we lost the pianist. Some of the recordings were weird, with very odd tempi. These are, however, from my teaching years, not my own pupil times.
I remember teaching them, all multicultural as they were, "The ink is black" and thinking how far they were from its necessity, so I explained why it had been written. The shock on the little faces was wonderful. People in America had thought children shouldn't be taught together! So I added the event which, many years ago, barred the NF from having hustings in our building (otherwise enforceable during election campaigns), in which the speaker had trespassed into a classroom, removed a reading book with a picture of a black and white child together and expressed his horror that this idea was corrupting the local children. We have come a long way since that song was written.
*Would it be "Carol, Gaily Carol"?
Posted by Twilight (# 2832) on
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You all sure were classy. At Leafy Lane Grade School in west Virginia we first said a pledge to the flag, then The Lord's Prayer, followed by songs like "This Old Man" (knick-knack patty whack, etc.) "I'm a Little Tea Pot," and "Row Your Boat." We took turns leading the songs and every morning I would wait, heart pounding with hope, to hear my name called. Never once. You hear that Mrs. Jordan? Don't be thinking I've forgotten.
Posted by Oferyas (# 14031) on
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For hymns we used 'Songs of Praise' - musically upper class, doctrinally dreadful. We learned lots and lots and lots of hymns - after all we had assembly twice a day, so ten hymns a week - better than the average parish church repertoire.
We did have favourites, one of which was not the prepostrous school song 'Olaf to right the wrong'. I won't quote the rest, but I could - it is still stuck in my brain with the same kind of barbed hooks later perfected by 'Spitting Image' for the 'Chicken Song'.....
Posted by Gwalchmai (# 17802) on
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How lovely to be reminded of "When lamps are lighted in the town" - I haven't come across it since I was in the infants class.
At my non-church state primary school as well as morning assembly we used to sing a hymn and a prayer at the end of the day - "All through the night" was popular and the headmaster always finished with the third collect at Evening Prayer - "Lighten our darkness, we beseech thee, O Lord . . ."
Posted by Fineline (# 12143) on
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When a knight won his spurs
Go tell it on the mountain
Think of a world without any flowers
He gave us eyes so we could see
When I needed a neighbour (and how everyone would giggle at the 'I was cold, I was naked' line, and then we'd all get a stern telling off by the head teacher. You'd think they'd realise primary school kids are too immature for that song and remove it from the list of assembly songs, but no. We sang it practically every week.)
Posted by Leorning Cniht (# 17564) on
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'Moses, I know you're the man,' the Lord said;
'You're going to work out my plan' the Lord said.
'Lead all the Israelites out of slavery,
and I shall make them a wandering race called the people of God.'
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As a small child, it was quite fun to sing. Fortunately we soon graduated to a real hymnal (Hymns A&M, I think).
Posted by Starbug (# 15917) on
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Originally posted by Leorning Cniht:
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'Moses, I know you're the man,' the Lord said;
'You're going to work out my plan' the Lord said.
'Lead all the Israelites out of slavery,
and I shall make them a wandering race called the people of God.'
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As a small child, it was quite fun to sing. Fortunately we soon graduated to a real hymnal (Hymns A&M, I think).
We still sing it at my church.
Posted by Penny S (# 14768) on
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What's so dreadful about the doctrines of Songs of Praise?
And we didn't have any problems with "When I needed a neighbour" - there may have been the odd one or two sniggers, but the majority took on board that the context outweighed the naughtiness. Young children are perfectly mature enough to learn about helping neighbours. Letting the sniggerers rule what the limits of discourse are is, in my view, wrong. (And that goes for "In the bleak midwinter" as well.)
One of the things I did in Hymn Practice was to point out the attributions to Trad and Anon in Come and Praise, and encourage the children to contribute their own verses. They were very thoughtful about this, and made some mature choices. Even in Year 3 (7 and 8 years).
Posted by Jante (# 9163) on
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What great memories this thread has brought back. I too lived in a fishing port and When Lamps were lighted was a favourite. We also sang when a Knight won his spurs and At The Name of Jesus was another favourite.
One I haven't sung since childhood wasn't a school hymn but a Sunday school one, and the one I always chose when it was my turn - Hold the fort
No one I speak to has ever heard of it but I loved it as a child- probably because it was livelier than the other hymns!
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Posted by Oferyas (# 14031) on
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Originally posted by Penny S:
What's so dreadful about the doctrines of Songs of Praise?
Well, from casual memory - there were hymns which celebrated man not God (e.g.'These things shall be'), the texts of Eucharistic hymns were doctrinally filleted, Advent hymns seemed weak on the Second Coming....
Uncle Percy did go a bit soft in the head in later years.....
Posted by Moo (# 107) on
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Originally posted by Jante:
One I haven't sung since childhood wasn't a school hymn but a Sunday school one, and the one I always chose when it was my turn - Hold the fort
No one I speak to has ever heard of it but I loved it as a child- probably because it was livelier than the other hymns!
I remember that also, but I don't remember where I learned it.
Moo
Posted by Penny S (# 14768) on
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Originally posted by Oferyas:
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Originally posted by Penny S:
What's so dreadful about the doctrines of Songs of Praise?
Well, from casual memory - there were hymns which celebrated man not God (e.g.'These things shall be'), the texts of Eucharistic hymns were doctrinally filleted, Advent hymns seemed weak on the Second Coming....
Uncle Percy did go a bit soft in the head in later years.....
I suppose one could choose not to use the ones one disagreed with - I would have thought that a book roughly aimed at schools would have a broader approach than one aimed at a particular denomination. Coming from Congregational Praise, I dare say I wouldn't have noticed, had they been used, anything odd about the Communion choices. Since our doctrine in the area was probably filletted, too. I'm not sure that your points qualify as dreadful, or head softened. I was imagining something terribly heretical in the eyes of all possible users. (Though failing to imagine anything specifically terrible.)
I must go downstairs and have a look.
Posted by Oferyas (# 14031) on
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I suppose one could choose not to use the ones one disagreed with
The luxury of non use wasn't accorded to us, and theological judgement of the Head was ghastly. And I'm sorry - in my opinion in a supposedly 'Anglican Foundation' hymns promoting humanism (e.g. 'These things shall be') or syncretism (e.g. 'Gather us in') are dreadful!
Posted by Fineline (# 12143) on
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Originally posted by Penny S:
And we didn't have any problems with "When I needed a neighbour" - there may have been the odd one or two sniggers, but the majority took on board that the context outweighed the naughtiness. Young children are perfectly mature enough to learn about helping neighbours.
Possibly the primary school I went to was a bit rougher than the one you taught at. Understanding about helping each other practically (which we did) is not quite the same as singing repetitive and rather abstract songs about it in assembly, particularly a song that includes singing 'I was naked'. When I then went to private school, the attitude towards such songs was different - far less sniggers (although probably more from politeness than from depth of understanding. Meeting naked people and helping them is unlikely to be in a primary school kid's realm of experience). FWIW, I still think it's a daft song.
Posted by Polly Plummer (# 13354) on
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We sang "When lamps are lighted in the town" at my primary school in London and didn't see anything strange about singing it inland!
My favourite was "When a knight won his spurs".
Posted by Penny S (# 14768) on
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Well, having read them in the links, I notice that the humanist one refers to hymns of praise, which I would assume to be to God, and the syncretist one could be interpreted in the same way as "Hills of the North" as bringing all from their various traditions into the true one.
On the other hand, I have to admit that the words "a loftier race" are a bit of a turn off, before reaching the rest, which are similar in thought to "Turn back O man" and others found in the "Social" section of that sort of hymn book. I don't see it as celebrating humanity, but being prophetic* about where we should be heading.
*In the sense of warning and directing, not foretelling.
But I think my Congregational and latterly Quaker connections are influencing my attitude (open to the light from wherever it may come) and emphasising differences from an Anglican background. (That goes for Sydney Carter and his songs, too.)
When it comes to dreadful, I tend to feel that songs like "Who put the colours in the rainbow?" are more deserving of the criticism than those poems. (I used to avoid them in Hymn Practice.) Who put... (The comments are illuminating, and explain what I felt about it - it was written from the narrow perspective of a particular branch of Christianity I find it very hard to be doing with, and am not going to encourage. Unlike the coral coated ladybird one.)
I waas in school yesterday, and someone has the carol books out of the staffroom, so someone is being seasonal. Which is good, but means I can't check up on the words to "It was on a starry night.)
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Posted by SvitlanaV2 (# 16967) on
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Isang some of the ones mentioned here. Others include 'Give me oil in my lamp', 'Sing hosanna', 'Black and White', 'Kumbaya'.....
I liked school assemblies. They even let me play the piano sometimes as the other children filed in.
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Posted by OddJob (# 17591) on
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Looking back, I now realise how much the words went way over the heads of me as a nipper in about 1970. I'd assume that a strange word carried a similar meaning to the closest sounding work I knew, to arrive at some strange meanings, such as:
'Thy will be done' meaning 'You will be reprimanded'
'See His banners go' from Onward Christian Soldiers. Banners sound similar to bangers, therefore it probably means 'Observe Him detonating fireworks'
'Thou rulest in might' from Immortal, invisible, God only Wise I assumed meant 'Your rules are the strictest in existence'
'Thy unction grace bestoweth'. Can't remember the hymn, nor do I actually know the definition of unction to this day, but to a seven year old accustomed to roads and plumbing fittings, I assumed the word was interchangeable with junction. Bestoweth sounded close to Bisto, therefore the phrase probably refers to a divine scolding for pouring gravy down the kitchen plughole.
Oh, I also recall the musically banal 'Lord thy word abideth' and the Deputy Head attaching too many military connotations to 'Onward Christian Soldiers', urging us to assume we were battling against the local supermarket.
Posted by georgiaboy (# 11294) on
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Originally posted by SvitlanaV2:
Isang some of the ones mentioned here. Others include 'Give me oil in my lamp', 'Sing hosanna', 'Black and White', 'Kumbaya'.....
I liked school assemblies. They even let me play the piano sometimes as the other children filed in.
My memories include parody versions of 'Give me oil,' most notably 'Give me gas for my Ford, keep me trucking' (but perhaps I'd better no continue.)
I would add that this was from a Methodist summer youth assembly.
Posted by balaam (# 4543) on
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Originally posted by georgiaboy:
My memories include parody versions of 'Give me oil,'
Give me batteries for my torch keep me shining ...
... Ever ready, ever ready, ever ready for the King of Kings.
Posted by Clotilde (# 17600) on
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I remember When a knight won his spurs
Oddly I also remember Judge Eternal throned in splendour
Posted by manfromcaerdeon (# 16672) on
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I learned it in the meadow path,
I learned it on the mountain stairs –
The best things any mortal hath
Are those which every mortal shares.
Lucy Larcom 1824 – 1893
Lucy
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Posted by L'organist (# 17338) on
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He who would valiant be (To be a pilgrim), always sung on the last day of term, plus Lord, dismiss us with thy blessing with the tune Eton College (which is NOT the tune played as such by Cyberhymnal)
Posted by Heavenly Anarchist (# 13313) on
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I was at primary school in the mid/late 70s and we had the usual 'All things bright and beautiful' and 'Amazing Grace' as well as 'The ink is black' (Luton was already multi-cultural then and I had several Indian friends who had escaped Idi Amin's regime). My favourite songs were 'At the name of Jesus' and 'There's a road that leads from Jerusalem', a song about the Good Samaritan.
Posted by betjemaniac (# 17618) on
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Just to prove English public school cliches were alive and well in the 1990s....
O Valiant Hearts puts me straight back in the school chapel on Armistice Day, with the great sea of names on the war memorial looking down on me.
Other than that, all the usual "football hooligan" hymns - as described by the Chaplain - which you can get massed gangs of boys to sing with gusto - to the extent that they crop up regularly at our weddings down the line:
The Church's One Foundation
Ye Who Own the Faith of Jesus
Guide me O Though Great Redeemer
Onward! Christian Soldiers
Jerusalem
Stand Up Stand Up for Jesus, Ye soldiers of the Cross
From Greenland's Icy Mountains (to the tune of the Church's one Foundation)
He Who Would Valiant Be
I Vow to Thee My Country
Eternal Father Strong to Save
Honestly, when we got to university, it was a surprise there wasn't an empire for us to go and administer...
Posted by Clotilde (# 17600) on
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Originally posted by Heavenly Anarchist:
I was at primary school in the mid/late 70s and .... My favourite songs were 'At the name of Jesus' and 'There's a road that leads from Jerusalem', a song about the Good Samaritan.
I don't know 'There's a road that leads' and a Googl;e search did not reveal the words either. But it did reveal a similar discussion to ours here at:
this page interesting as it comes more from a school than church perspective.
Posted by Heavenly Anarchist (# 13313) on
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I believe it is called Compassion Road and can see it in some album listings but can't find the lyrics. I know most of them by heart though, it starts 'There's a road that leads from Jerusalem, it's the way down to Jericho. It's compassion road, steep and tiring road, which has danger from thieving foe.' And goes on to mirror the beaten up man on the road with the oppressed of our own time.
Posted by Heavenly Anarchist (# 13313) on
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It is written by Michael Baughen apparently and appeared in a book called Youth Praise 1 but the lyrics aren't available online according to the site.
Posted by Clotilde (# 17600) on
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Sounds good, but maybe in reality it isn't as its life span seems to be quite short
The Good Samaritan story is rightly popular in primary schools it would be good to have a good song about it for young children.
Posted by Penny S (# 14768) on
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Originally posted by Clotilde:
Sounds good, but maybe in reality it isn't as its life span seems to be quite short
The Good Samaritan story is rightly popular in primary schools it would be good to have a good song about it for young children.
I think there's one called "Cross over the road". But I can't find a working link.
Posted by Sir Kevin (# 3492) on
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Originally posted by betjemaniac:
Other than that, all the usual "football hooligan" hymns
Are you referring to 'When the SPURS Go Marching In?
(We're not lager louts anymore!)
Posted by Oferyas (# 14031) on
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Originally posted by Penny S:
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Originally posted by Clotilde:
Sounds good, but maybe in reality it isn't as its life span seems to be quite short
The Good Samaritan story is rightly popular in primary schools it would be good to have a good song about it for young children.
I think there's one called "Cross over the road". But I can't find a working link.
Try 'A Samaritan on a lonely road' (can't find a link, but we had it in a Scripture Union song book for children): tune 'The raggle-taggle gipsy'.
Posted by leo (# 1458) on
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Originally posted by Heavenly Anarchist:
It is written by Michael Baughen apparently and appeared in a book called Youth Praise 1 but the lyrics aren't available online according to the site.
I've got the music edn. of youth praise, should anyone be desperate for the words - could scan them on ocr.
Posted by The5thMary (# 12953) on
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Do the songs have to be of a religious nature? Because when I was attending Catholic school in 1978, my class did a music program for our parents and one of the songs we sang was "Dan Tucker". SOME of us--the more "wordly" students decided to get cute with the words and instead of singing, "Get out of the way, old Dan Tucker, you're too late to get your supper..." these merry pranksters sang, "...old damn F**ker, you're too late to get your supper". Now, I think it's hilarious. Back then, though, I was shocked from the top of my Peter Pan collar to my little white bobby socks.
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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My school was terribly Jolly hockey sticks. "And Did Those Feet?" (no they bloody didn't) and "I Vow To The My Country" (yeah, but which country?) were trotted out at every possible opportunity. Needless to say they were trotted out for the sesquicentenary ten years ago. Coincidentally the latter is playing on my shuffle as I write.
Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on
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Originally posted by Zappa:
"And Did Those Feet?" (no they bloody didn't)
Thank you for that!
The first time I saw "Loneliness of a Long Distance Runner" and the reform school boys launched into this hymn in chapel, I really listened to the lyrics for the first time. I sat there thinking, "Are they say--nah, they can't be-- are they suggesting that... naaah..."
Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on
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Originally posted by Lord Jestocost:
At half past three we home to tea
Or maybe at quarter to four
And [X] pairs of feet go running down the street
And in at the home front door
[probably a few more lines here]
Father [doing something doubtless gender stereotypical]
Mother by the stove
A little bit of quarrelling
But lots more love.
Our house... in the middle of our street, our house...
Posted by L'organist (# 17338) on
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Not sure my school was typical but we NEVER sang Jerusalem (And did those feet) because, as the head of music explained, it wasn't actually a hymn but a national song and, since the school had pupils of varying nationalities, was not appropriate. O valiant hearts was banned for similar reasons.
Posted by leo (# 1458) on
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Lucky you having an enlightened teacher.
Posted by Hugal (# 2734) on
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We sang some of the ones mentioned. I am beginning to think my school was the only one to sing The Baker Woman. The only person who remembers it at all it a friend (on another site) from school.
Posted by The5thMary (# 12953) on
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Our kindergarten class at St. James School (in lovely Falls Church, VA) learned to sing Dona Nobis Pacem and sang it in a round. Is that how it's described? Anyway, it was lovely, we sang it for a Christmas pageant and one of my sisters played the angel Gabriel. Anyway, we were only little kids and didn't know what the words really meant so we made up our own words: "Donut. No peas. Pa chimp". We didn't sing it that way, of course. The nuns drilled us and drilled us (to the point of tears, thanks so much!) but we performed it flawlessly and many a proud parent wiped away tears that night.
Posted by Sherwood (# 15702) on
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When I was in junior school, along side 'Sing Hosanna', 'Give Me Oil in my Lamp' and 'When a Knight Won His Spurs', to name just three already mentioned here, we also sang 'Hand me Down my Silver Trumpet'. We always sang it in two groups on a Friday assembly.
The upper half of the school would traipse down to the lower end on Friday afternoon and sit at the back of the hall, then when we sang 'Trumpet' they would start. Halfway through the first verse, the rest of the school would join in.
At least once a month we would sing 'Streets of London', too. This was around the time that Cardboard City was a massive item in the news, although that is likely coincidental. We also sang 'God Save the Queen' on big national occasions (or ones the headmaster decided were "big") like the Queen's birthdays (both the actual and official ones), St. Georges Day and also on the last day of the summer term.
Posted by EtymologicalEvangelical (# 15091) on
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Originally posted by Jante
We also sang when a Knight won his spurs and At The Name of Jesus was another favourite.
I can't sing 'At the Name of Jesus' now (to this rather plodding tune), without it being accompanied by a strong memory of sitting cross-legged on a polished wooden floor in an old Victorian building, which housed the Junior School I attended in the north of England (in the few years before being packed off to boarding school).
That undislodgeable memory rather gets in the way of any spiritual appreciation for the hymn!
Posted by L'organist (# 17338) on
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The tune is called "Camberwell": the link you gave is to a rather pedestrian version not particularly well-performed.
There were several "Old" tunes - IMO Evelyns was the best and certainly less nerve-jangling than the Brierley tune.
But anything is better than Geoffrey Beaumont's "Hatherop Castle" for O Jesus I have promised...
Posted by The Phantom Flan Flinger (# 8891) on
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Originally posted by Penny S:
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Originally posted by Clotilde:
Sounds good, but maybe in reality it isn't as its life span seems to be quite short
The Good Samaritan story is rightly popular in primary schools it would be good to have a good song about it for young children.
I think there's one called "Cross over the road". But I can't find a working link.
Bottom song on the page.
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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I was in primary school in Orkney in the early 1970s, and for some reason the assembly hymn/song that sticks in my mind is Where have all the flowers gone? - possibly because I don't remember hearing it anywhere else (church, Sunday school, whatever). Also At the name of Jesus to what I now know to be The Wrong Tune (i.e. not King's Weston).
FWIW (not much) I have no problem with And did those feet - whether they did or not - it's Poetic Licence and that's just fine with me.
[ 09. January 2014, 15:44: Message edited by: piglet ]
Posted by Chorister (# 473) on
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On one of my first days at school, there was a delivery of a set of brand new, red hymn books (full of traditional hymns). They were handed out to all the children who could read, so I remember feeling really pleased that I'd learnt to read before starting school. The first one I remember learning was 'Mine eyes have seen the glory' - we especially loved the 'Glory glory Hallelujah' chorus, which inevitably continued 'Teacher hit me with a ruler, the ruler snapped in half and the class began to laugh'. Not quite the words written in the book!
And soon after that it was the lead-up to Christmas and I can remember learning 'While shepherds watched'. I then went home feeling very proud that I'd learnt this new song and tried to teach it to my mother. I was very disappointed to discover she already knew it!
Posted by Enoch (# 14322) on
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Originally posted by piglet:
I was in primary school in Orkney in the early 1970s, and for some reason the assembly hymn/song that sticks in my mind is Where have all the flowers gone? - possibly because I don't remember hearing it anywhere else (church, Sunday school, whatever). ...
Did you have a class teacher who was on her first job out of training college, had long hair, wore a floral dress, perched on a stool and sang to you on the guitar?
It's amazing to anyone my age (60+) that there should be anyone who has not heard that song, yet alone anyone alive as long ago as the 1970s, even if only at primary level then. In the mid 1960s there can have been nobody in the anglophone world who did not know it. The thought that it isn't part of everyone's memory really makes me feel old.
It's not, though, a hymn. It has a worthy message - that war is a bad thing and kills young men. But it is completely secular. It has no Christian content.
Posted by balaam (# 4543) on
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Originally posted by L'organist:
But anything is better than Geoffrey Beaumont's "Hatherop Castle" for O Jesus I have promised...
I must disagree. Nothing says School Assembly like that song. That has brought back fond memories. But at school we had a piano, it is pretty ghastly played on the organ.
Posted by Pine Marten (# 11068) on
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Originally posted by Chorister:
... - we especially loved the 'Glory glory Hallelujah' chorus, which inevitably continued 'Teacher hit me with a ruler, the ruler snapped in half and the class began to laugh'. Not quite the words written in the book!
That rings a bell - but our version was along the lines of: 'Teacher hit me with a ruler...and it don't 'alf blinking hurt!'
Posted by Galilit (# 16470) on
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We had one I can hardly recall the words but it was something about men fighting for or near a castle called Harlech. It was full of all these "pennons" which were described as "gaily streaming" and somethings called "falchons" which were "gleaming" apparently all this was knights' equipment...It had a stirring tune and we loved it while not understanding most of the things or places described. Since it was in Britain and we were in New Zealand hundreds of years later.
There was another in the same style with a line "King James's men shall understand what Cornish men can do". Who was this James and where were was this Corn region we wondered?
Ah...cultural imperialism - you can never decide if you love it or hate it as it got into your blood at such an impressionable age
Posted by Kitten (# 1179) on
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Originally posted by Galilit:
We had one I can hardly recall the words but it was something about men fighting for or near a castle called Harlech. It was full of all these "pennons" which were described as "gaily streaming" and somethings called "falchons" which were "gleaming" apparently all this was knights' equipment...It had a stirring tune and we loved it while not understanding most of the things or places described. Since it was in Britain and we were in New Zealand hundreds of years later.
There was another in the same style with a line "King James's men shall understand what Cornish men can do". Who was this James and where were was this Corn region we wondered?
Ah...cultural imperialism - you can never decide if you love it or hate it as it got into your blood at such an impressionable age
That sounds like Men of Harlech and Trelawny
Posted by Amanda B. Reckondwythe (# 5521) on
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Originally posted by Chorister:
'Mine eyes have seen the glory' - we especially loved the 'Glory glory Hallelujah' chorus, which inevitably continued 'Teacher hit me with a ruler, the ruler snapped in half and the class began to laugh'.
The version we sang was:
Mine eyes have seen the glory of the burning of the school,
We have stood in every corner, we have broken every rule,
[don't remember the next line]
As we go marching on.
Glory, glory, hallelujah!
Teacher hit me with a ruler.
Bopped her on the bean with a rotten tangerine,
And her teeth came flying out.
Posted by Amanda B. Reckondwythe (# 5521) on
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Originally posted by Enoch:
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Originally posted by piglet:
For some reason the assembly hymn/song that sticks in my mind is Where have all the flowers gone?
In the mid 1960s there can have been nobody in the anglophone world who did not know it. The thought that it isn't part of everyone's memory really makes me feel old.
It's not, though, a hymn. It has a worthy message - that war is a bad thing and kills young men. But it is completely secular. It has no Christian content.
Marlene Dietrich makes it sound almost so.
Posted by Starbug (# 15917) on
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Originally posted by Amanda B. Reckondwythe:
The version we sang was:
Mine eyes have seen the glory of the burning of the school,
We have stood in every corner, we have broken every rule,
[don't remember the next line]
As we go marching on.
Glory, glory, hallelujah!
Teacher hit me with a ruler.
Bopped her on the bean with a rotten tangerine,
And her teeth came flying out. [/QUOTE]
To the tune of Men of Harlech:
We're the girls in blue and white,
We're the girls who're always right,
We're the girls who'd better be bright -
********* School for Girls!
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[ 09. January 2014, 21:33: Message edited by: Starbug ]
Posted by Moo (# 107) on
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My daughters used to sing
Glory, glory hallelujah
Teacher hit me with a ruler
I met her at the door
With a loaded forty-four
And she ain't gonna teach no more.
Moo
Posted by Penny S (# 14768) on
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Glory, glory hallelujah,
Teacher hit me with the ruler,
Father hit me with the walking stick
And made me black and blue.
And, less hymnlike,
We'll make a bonfire of ............
And we'll burn our cares away,
We'll pile it up with all our homework,
And keep it burning all the night and all the day.
We'll make a Guy Fawkes of Miss .......
And Miss ................. likewise
(And I can't remember if the nice little St Trinians' girls we were composed any more after that.)
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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That sounds like Men of Harlech and Trelawny
I learnt those too down here in NSW. With some Cornish ancestry and a bit of a rebellious streak in me, I liked the bits about crossing the Severn as well as the line quoted.
Men of Harlech was sung on out empire Day presentations wher the colonies brought gifts to Britannia. Cringe, cringe but those were the days. I usually played Britannia because I could learn the lines..
However, I find the concept of school assembly hymns strange. We had an ecumenical service at High School once a year with some rather bland stuff. This was public (state) secular system.
The closest I can remember is from an Anglican boarding school where I had a supervisory role for a year. Each term end chapel saw the girls belting out, Light that groweth not pale... as the chorus of Lord it is eventide. Traditional end to the term and the girls would return home to grazing properties where what they sang was nowhere near as genteel. I have no recollection what was sung at chapel every evening in term time.
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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Originally posted by Enoch:
Did you have a class teacher who was on her first job out of training college, had long hair, wore a floral dress, perched on a stool and sang to you on the guitar?
Didn't everybody back then?
Actually, the one I'm thinking of was a music teacher. She not only had a guitar, she had an accordion.
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Originally posted by Chorister:
I can remember learning 'While shepherds watched' ...
One of my first musical experiences was singing a verse of The First Nowell as a duet with somebody at the school carol service when I was in Primary 2. I still love it.
Posted by Penny S (# 14768) on
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Originally posted by Enoch:
Did you have a class teacher who was on her first job out of training college, had long hair, wore a floral dress, perched on a stool and sang to you on the guitar?
Ermm....I....was.....(but only in summer, dress-wise).
Posted by Cathscats (# 17827) on
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I can often tell what songs people learned in school assembly - usually primary school, because very often they choose them as wedding hymns, being the only hymns they know. "One more step along the road" is popular for that reason, and "Give me oil in my lamp". More unusually I was asked for "One, two, three, Jesus loves me" this year. Must have been from nursery days. Persuaded otherwise!
I like to think that in10 years time there will be weddings with everyone singing "Build up one another" (which would not be inappropriate) complete with the "wa-oh"s. If you don't know it it is by Fischy music and very popular in these parts.
Posted by Amanda B. Reckondwythe (# 5521) on
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Originally posted by piglet:
Actually, the one I'm thinking of was a music teacher. She not only had a guitar, she had an accordion.
Ours had an autoharp.
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