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Posted by chive (# 208) on :

I am disgusted that there are new stamps being released with children's television characters on them. Do the royal mail not know how offensive these are?

Firstly some religious groups like the exclusive brethren don't watch television. How are they meant to be part of UK society when even stamps discriminate against them?

Secondly, isn't Peppa Pig a...pig? Our Muslim and Jewish friends (don't we all worship the same God after all) will be unable to use these stamps.

Thirdly, Postman Pat is being represented. As the Royal Mail is being privatised, isn't this just an attempt to get around public discontent with this right wing decision by using a well loved children's character on a stamp?

Fourthly, Windy Millar is from Camberwick Green. I don't recall any ethnic minorities on this programme. Tis outrage.

Fifthly, Dougal, Bagpuss and Shaun the Sheep are all animals, what about those people with allergies?

Sixthly, is Uncle Bulgaria just being included to welcome those arriving from Romania and Bulgaria. It's political correctness gone mad I tell you.

Alternatively we could all grow up and realise that there are actually important things do get upset about - Syria, South Sudan, the government's abuse of the poor and disabled etc etc and stop giving a fuck about things that are not give a fuckable.

Posted by Patdys (# 9397) on :

Penny for your thoughts. Got change for 2 pound?

Posted by Firenze (# 619) on :

Andy Pandy and Teddy sharing a basket? Well, I think we can all see the 'lifestyle' agenda being pushed there, can't we?

[ 05. January 2014, 10:32: Message edited by: Firenze ]

Posted by Boogie (# 13538) on :

Captain pugwash and crew left out again!

Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :

I am shocked, saddened but unsurprised that there are twelve male characters and only two female (Peppa Pig and Jess the Cat).

The significant figure of Emily has been entirely air-brushed out of the representation of Bagpuss. Madam Cholet would have been as better choice than Great Uncle Bulgaria, but possibly the designers shunned this competent, managing female Womble out of a fear of strong females. Why was Windy Miller chosen in preference to Mrs Honeyman and her baby? I think we all know; the fecund woman represents a powerful symbol of not-male.

One of the characters, Postman Pat, represents an unhealthy representation of hetero-normativity, as every child in Greendale looks like him, sharing a clearly identifiable genetic trait (abnormally large nose.)

Rarely has the patriarchy been more oppressive than in the subliminal message passed onto our toddlers by these characters.

Posted by Spike (# 36) on :

quote:
Originally posted by chive:
Alternatively we could all grow up and realise that there are actually important things do get upset about - Syria, South Sudan, the government's abuse of the poor and disabled etc etc and stop giving a fuck about things that are not give a fuckable.

No. These are not important issues at all. What is important is that I can show off how much more intellectual and "right on" I am than you are

Posted by Spike (# 36) on :

And that's the last thing I have to say on the matter because I don't post in Hell as it's below my dignity

Posted by Gildas (# 525) on :

I notice a complete absence of anthropmorphic cows. This is clearly a calculated outrage against the Hindu community. Where's Keith Vaz when you need him?

Posted by Spike (# 36) on :

In fact I don't even read Hell as I am so much more clever than the rest of you

Posted by Firenze (# 619) on :

Spike, don't you have a really important meeting you should be hurrying to?

Posted by Spike (# 36) on :

I'm not reading this thread because it's anti-Semitic, but I'm the only person who realises this because I'm much cleverer than you.

Posted by Ariel (# 58) on :

I'm not reading this thread because I don't have time.

Posted by Curiosity killed ... (# 11770) on :

I've got to pretend to read some worthy books so I can review them from the blurb and show how academic I am.

Posted by Firenze (# 619) on :

And I'm not reading it because it has outlandish foreign words like 'Madam Cholet' in it which someone like me can't be expected to have encountered before.

Posted by Ariel (# 58) on :

Don't be silly, Firenze. "Madam Cholet" is one of Flaubert's greatest novels. I wrote a review of this when it first came out.

Posted by Firenze (# 619) on :

I never read fiction.

Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on :

Don't forget, though, Genesis is fiction, and I read the Bible because I'm Christian (I think), when I am not living in a pluralistic society.

Posted by Marvin the Martian (# 4360) on :

Waitaminute.

Wait.

Jess is FEMALE???

Posted by Pooks (# 11425) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Marvin the Martian:
Waitaminute.

Wait.

Jess is FEMALE???

Would U make it male?

Posted by balaam (# 4543) on :

This is an outrage.

All of them are first class stamps. What about the poor people who can't afford the postal rates? This elitism has got to stop. Now!!!!!!11!!!!!11!one!!1!!

Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Marvin the Martian:
Waitaminute.

Wait.

Jess is FEMALE???

Wikipedia says Jess is male!! Surely Jess is short for Jessica, or Jessie? [Eek!]

Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :

Jesse like my grandfather and Wod of Jesse's stem or something that has always sounded vaguely smutty.

Posted by Tortuf (# 3784) on :

I think it is OK for any religious group to use the pig stamps as long as they use a sponge instead of licking.

As to the rest of it, I am offended because they only use children's cartoon figures instead of adult cartoon characters.

Posted by Firenze (# 619) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Pooks:

quote:
Originally posted by Marvin the Martian:
Waitaminute.

Wait.

Jess is FEMALE???
Would U make it male?

No it would make it 'Juss'. Which is what toddlers scream before flinging their Tiny Tots Training Beaker at you.

Posted by lilBuddha (# 14333) on :

quote:
Originally posted by chive:

Alternatively we could all grow up and realise that there are actually important things do get upset about - Syria, South Sudan, the government's abuse of the poor and disabled etc etc and stop giving a fuck about things that are not give a fuckable.

I do hope this was intentionally ironic.

Posted by Scarlet (# 1738) on :

quote:
Originally posted by North East Quine:

quote:
Originally posted by Marvin the Martian:
Waitaminute.

Wait.

Jess is FEMALE???
Wikipedia says Jess is male!! Surely Jess is short for Jessica, or Jessie?

But the Wikipedia article has multiple issues, it says; so feel free to continue believing whatever you like.

Posted by irish_lord99 (# 16250) on :

@ Spike: [Overused]

Posted by rolyn (# 16840) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Ariel:
I'm not reading this thread because I don't have time.

I'm not reading this thread because it's making my brain hurt.

Posted by Pooks (# 11425) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Firenze:

quote:
Originally posted by Pooks:

quote:
Originally posted by Marvin the Martian:
Waitaminute.

Wait.

Jess is FEMALE???
Would U make it male?
No it would make it 'Juss'. Which is what toddlers scream before flinging their Tiny Tots Training Beaker at you.

Ah! A voice of experience I take it? I am firmly of the opinion that tiny tots are really little demons in disguise. I am shocked that the OP has neglected to mention that those odd ball characters on the new stamps are in fact portraits of real heroes. It was they who managed to keep those little beaker-tossing-demon-tots from killing the rest of humanity.

Posted by Schroedinger's cat (# 64) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Boogie:
Captain pugwash and crew left out again!

That's because it doesn't really include Roger the Cabin boy.

Posted by Rev per Minute (# 69) on :

The now-evil Royal Mail (which was our property, given away to their mates by the current government, bunch of... [cont. p94]) is simply following on from its stamps last year which featured the different faces of an alien time traveller. Everyone who understands the Bible knows that only God can control time and of course that He only created life on Earth, so these so-called stamps were in fact an attempt to indoctrinate our children in anti-Christian beliefs.

(Any resemblance between myself and a person of the same name who posts on the Doctor Who thread is entirely coincidental... [Paranoid]

)

Posted by Huia (# 3473) on :

A stamp with Dougal?

Why do you guys get all the goodies? NZ Post has never been so imaginative as to feature my hero.

It's not fair!

Huia - flouncing off to find what else she can be offended by.

Posted by RooK (# 1852) on :

I only understand who these characters are because I studied Greek at uni, which I went to even though I as raised by a one-armed piano tuner and am therefore lower-class, and despite the fact that my biological family was all killed by a tragic misunderstanding at the Soylent Green factory. How I can be bothered to worry about such outrages when I'm obviously a miserable 70-year-old virgin with acute tendonitis is a testament to how clever I am.

Posted by Starbug (# 15917) on :

RooK, we've seen your tendonitis and it's anything but cute.

Posted by Anglican't (# 15292) on :

I will not contribute to this thread because, despite my advanced knowledge of Hebrew and Ancient Greek, I do not understand most of the basic English words you hoi polloi are using.

Posted by Eutychus (# 3081) on :

That's a bit of a non sequitur, innit?

Posted by orfeo (# 13878) on :

quote:
Originally posted by rolyn:

quote:
Originally posted by Ariel:
I'm not reading this thread because I don't have time.
I'm not reading this thread because it's making my brain hurt.

I'm reading this thread because I bloody well have to. In terms of reasons to be offended, I'd say I win.

Also, you're all damn lucky I happen to know what this thread is about without a link.

Posted by piglet (# 11803) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Firenze:
Andy Pandy and Teddy sharing a basket? ...

Nothing wrong with that - we share our sofa (and indeed the rest of our house) with numerous teddy-bears of varying proportions.

What does bother me is the omission of the Clangers.

[Disappointed]

Posted by orfeo (# 13878) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Eutychus:
That's a bit of a non sequitur, innit?

Translation please!

I'm not familiar with 'innit'.

Posted by Alan Cresswell (# 31) on :

Such a display of ignorance shows that it is fortunate you were never in a position to teach others.

Posted by Erroneous Monk (# 10858) on :

I am glad Windy Miller has been included. The incontinent of flatus are so often overlooked.

Posted by deano (# 12063) on :

I hope Mr Benn is on them. I always liked the shopkeeper as I do like to highlight successful small businesses.

Posted by Albertus (# 13356) on :

Though I do wonder how successful he was, given that he never had any other customers and never charged Mr Benn for anything.
I'm sure you're pleased, though, by the programme's satirical depiction of the many transformations of your sometime MP: every week a different costume - Viscount's robes, 60s technocrat's white coat, C17 Leveller's sea-green ribbon and buff jerkin...

[ 06. January 2014, 14:28: Message edited by: Albertus ]

Posted by Liopleurodon (# 4836) on :

I am not offended. I am entertained by the fact that you think I have character flaws but the reality is that you don't understand my INTJ ways and that misunderstanding leads you to think that I'm not perfect.

Posted by leo (# 1458) on :

quote:
Originally posted by RooK:
I only understand who these characters are because I studied Greek at uni, which I went to even though I as raised by a one-armed piano tuner and am therefore lower-class, and despite the fact that my biological family was all killed by a tragic misunderstanding at the Soylent Green factory. How I can be bothered to worry about such outrages when I'm obviously a miserable 70-year-old virgin with acute tendonitis is a testament to how clever I am.

Really enjoying this thread for it's light-heated banter.

Until you waded in insensitively.

Guess we need to toughen up and ignore you.

Meanwhile, everyone else, take the piss because it saves stains on the sheets.

Posted by leo (# 1458) on :

Oh - and yes, I am only(?) 62 and haven't been a virgin since age 13. Maybe too young but i certainly enjoyed it. Didn't you?

Maybe you should try.

Posted by irish_lord99 (# 16250) on :

A sock don't count Leo.

Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on :

Why do you think the banter is lighthearted, leo?

Posted by Ariston (# 10894) on :

I resent the fact that you think there isn't a line of women outside the sacristy every Sunday just waiting to join me for sherry to discuss how wonderful my sermon slagging off Christianity was, before joining me in a discussion of the only three things I like to talk about—thick books I'll tell you I've read, my hard theological positions I tell you are correct, and sex.

Ladies, I say it's the biggest ever, and I'm never wrong. It'll be over quickly, because I'm confident.

[ 07. January 2014, 04:33: Message edited by: Ariston ]

Posted by comet (# 10353) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Ariston:
It'll be over quickly, because I'm confident.

if I had a dime for every time I heard that...

Posted by Ariston (# 10894) on :

quote:
Originally posted by comet:

quote:
Originally posted by Ariston:
It'll be over quickly, because I'm confident.
if I had a dime for every time I heard that...

I'm sorry, I thought this was an English language board, and that those in charge used to enforce that rule. I don't know what a "dime" is, because a poor glover's son like me couldn't afford to take Neoclassical Algonquin, which is what I assume you're speaking.

Posted by Ariston (# 10894) on :

And anyway, I'm English. I use ten pence coins.

Posted by L'organist (# 17338) on :

Going back to the stamps, anyone else noticed how overwhelmingly English they are?

Paddington is, of course, Peruvian: and you could stretch it that Ivor (although a machine) is Welsh, but what about characters from Scotland and Ireland.

Disgusting.

Posted by Ariel (# 58) on :

quote:
Originally posted by L'organist:
Paddington is, of course, Peruvian: and you could stretch it that Ivor (although a machine) is Welsh, but what about characters from Scotland and Ireland.

Northern Ireland, I assume you mean. The Republic is not part of the United Kingdom.

And feel free to suggest suitable characters from both Scotland and Northern Ireland.

Posted by The Great Gumby (# 10989) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Ariel:

quote:
Originally posted by L'organist:
Paddington is, of course, Peruvian: and you could stretch it that Ivor (although a machine) is Welsh, but what about characters from Scotland and Ireland.
Northern Ireland, I assume you mean. The Republic is not part of the United Kingdom.

Indeed. I'm offended by this endorsement of our shameful colonial past. Shameful, I say! Shameful! So shameful that I'm wearing a lapel pin I made just for the purpose. I may even tell someone about it if they make the mistake of asking.

I know all about how shameful colonialism is because I once read the back of a very big book. Why couldn't I have been born a black, one-legged African refugee, so that I could rid myself of this shameful burden of Britishness?

Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :

quote:
And feel free to suggest suitable characters from ... Scotland

The Bash Street Kids; Minnie the Minx; Dennis the Menace; Oor Wullie; the younger Broons; Black Bob, the faithful Border Collie; the Family Ness etc etc.

Posted by Honest Ron Bacardi (# 38) on :

or Black Bag, the faithful border binliner. Wee Jimmie Krankie would also be good.

Posted by Moo (# 107) on :

quote:
Originally posted by North East Quine:
The Bash Street Kids; Minnie the Minx; Dennis the Menace; Oor Wullie; the younger Broons; Black Bob, the faithful Border Collie; the Family Ness etc etc.

I always thought Dennis the Menace was American.

Moo

Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :

As did we; both the comic strip and then the TV show (that dates us, doesn't it Moo).

Posted by Karl: Liberal Backslider (# 76) on :

This is our Dennis the Menace:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_and_Gnasher

This is the insipid US Dennis the Menace:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Dennisketcham.jpg

Almost completely unmenacing by comparison.

Posted by RooK (# 1852) on :

According to your links, the US version predates the UK version by five days.

Posted by deano (# 12063) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Honest Ron Bacardi:
or Black Bag, the faithful border binliner. Wee Jimmie Krankie would also be good.

Now that would be a good idea for a range of stamps...

Rodger Melly, the man on the telly
Biffa Bacon
The Fat Slags

and of course, the one, the only, Buster Gonad, with his unfeasibly large testicles.

Ah! Where's the best place to start a chat on Viz? Here or Heaven, because I imagine it would get hellish pretty quickly.

Posted by The Phantom Flan Flinger (# 8891) on :

If we've had Windy Miller, then Johnny Fartpants should be in there...

Posted by Albertus (# 13356) on :

Don't forget Postman Plod

Posted by Ariel (# 58) on :

quote:
Originally posted by North East Quine:
The Bash Street Kids; Minnie the Minx; Dennis the Menace; Oor Wullie; the younger Broons; Black Bob, the faithful Border Collie; the Family Ness etc etc.

I had no idea the first three were Scottish.

Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :

Minnie is a Dundonian; they have a statue of her. The Bash Street kids are also Dundonians; allegedly loosely inspired by Dundee High School. Not sure about Dennis, but he was Scottish originally.

Posted by Alan Cresswell (# 31) on :

Scottish heritage claimed by the English, or even worse the Americans. The case for Independence becomes stronger. Then we can have our own Scottish stamps, depicting our own Scottish heritage and not have it usurped by those Sassenachs.

Posted by Honest Ron Bacardi (# 38) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:
Scottish heritage claimed by the English, or even worse the Americans. The case for Independence becomes stronger. Then we can have our own Scottish stamps, depicting our own Scottish heritage and not have it usurped by those Sassenachs.

I find your post to be pretty offensive to be honest, Dr. Cresswell. The whole idea was that we reserve stamp design for somebody else's heritage. Get with the plan.

Posted by Erroneous Monk (# 10858) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Honest Ron Bacardi:

quote:
Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:
Scottish heritage claimed by the English, or even worse the Americans. The case for Independence becomes stronger. Then we can have our own Scottish stamps, depicting our own Scottish heritage and not have it usurped by those Sassenachs.
I find your post to be pretty offensive to be honest, Dr. Cresswell. The whole idea was that we reserve stamp design for somebody else's heritage. Get with the plan.

I prefer not to use the word heritage. I prefer gender-neutral terms such as theiritage.

Posted by Ariel (# 58) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:
Scottish heritage claimed by the English, or even worse the Americans. The case for Independence becomes stronger. Then we can have our own Scottish stamps, depicting our own Scottish heritage and not have it usurped by those Sassenachs.

I notice you typed that post in English.

Posted by Pyx_e (# 57) on :

quote:
Originally posted by comet:

quote:
Originally posted by Ariston:
It'll be over quickly, because I'm confident.
if I had a dime for every time I heard that...

You would be known as the "Dime Dame."

Posted by Alan Cresswell (# 31) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Ariel:

quote:
Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:
Scottish heritage claimed by the English, or even worse the Americans. The case for Independence becomes stronger. Then we can have our own Scottish stamps, depicting our own Scottish heritage and not have it usurped by those Sassenachs.
I notice you typed that post in English.

I'd post in Gaelic. But, the hosts won't like that. And, my Gaelic isn't that good.

Posted by Spike (# 36) on :

I think we should have Scottish stamps so that I can refuse to buy them

Posted by LutheranChik (# 9826) on :

I must defend Peppa Pig because my four-year old granddaughter adores her. Don't mess with the pig.

Posted by balaam (# 4543) on :

quote:
Originally posted by RooK:
According to your links, the US version predates the UK version by five days.

Not if you read them properly. From the US link:

quote:
Coincidentally, another cartoon strip titled Dennis the Menace was published in the British comic The Beano (dated March 17 – the "off sale" date) in 1951. The comic went on sale several days in advance of the cover date (actually being published up to ten days previously), and therefore predates the debut of Ketcham's version.

Posted by Alan Cresswell (# 31) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Spike:
I think we should have Scottish stamps so that I can refuse to buy them

And I will then boycott English stamps. But none of this refusing to buy them. I will burn any letter I receive bearing the stamp of the oppressor. That'll teach them!

Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on :

Assuming of course that a similar practice was not followed in the US.

Posted by piglet (# 11803) on :

quote:
Originally posted by LutheranChik:
... Don't mess with the pig.

Quite right! [Two face]

Posted by Albertus (# 13356) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Spike:
I think we should have Scottish stamps so that I can refuse to buy them

There you go.

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