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Thread: Mandela R.I.P.
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Doublethink.
Ship's Foolwise Unperson
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-------------------- All political thinking for years past has been vitiated in the same way. People can foresee the future only when it coincides with their own wishes, and the most grossly obvious facts can be ignored when they are unwelcome. George Orwell
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balaam
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Marvin the Martian
Interplanetary
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RIP Nelson.
-------------------- Hail Gallaxhar
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Ye Olde Motherboarde
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His life changed the world. His spirit will go on. He belongs to the angels In Africa he was the dawn.
Now his life begins in a far better place…….
Finally home with the angels who welcomed him with shouts of joy! Back with the God who loves him so.
-------------------- In Memory of Miss Molly, TimC, Gambit, KenWritez, koheleth, Leetle Masha, JLG, Genevieve, Erin, RuthW2, deuce2, Sidi and TonyCoxon, unbeliever, Morlader, Ken :tear: 20 years but who’s counting?..................
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PaulBC
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-------------------- "He has told you O mortal,what is good;and what does the Lord require of youbut to do justice and to love kindness ,and to walk humbly with your God."Micah 6:8
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Pomona
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-------------------- Consider the work of God: Who is able to straighten what he has bent? [Ecclesiastes 7:13]
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QLib
Bad Example
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-------------------- Tradition is the handing down of the flame, not the worship of the ashes Gustav Mahler.
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Tubifex Maximus
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I think what I find so extraordinary is his capacity for forgiveness after all that he went through. I think that own refusal to live without rancour acted as a witness to others and helped to ensure that South Africa became a democratic state. On a personal level I find him a beacon and an inspiration for my own struggle to forgive hurts much less grievous than those he endured.
-------------------- Sit down, Oh sit down, sit down next to me.
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LeRoc
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A great man.
-------------------- I know why God made the rhinoceros, it's because He couldn't see the rhinoceros, so He made the rhinoceros to be able to see it. (Clarice Lispector)
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SyNoddy
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comet
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GAH!
I know we knew it was coming. I feel like my boat is sinking anyway.
-------------------- Evil Dragon Lady, Breaker of Men's Constitutions
"It's hard to be religious when certain people are never incinerated by bolts of lightning.” -Calvin
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Cottontail
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-------------------- "I don't think you ought to read so much theology," said Lord Peter. "It has a brutalizing influence."
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Uncle Pete
Loyaute me lie
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Meg the Red
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jedijudy
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-------------------- Jasmine, little cat with a big heart.
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Nicolemr
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-------------------- On pilgrimage in the endless realms of Cyberia, currently traveling by ship. Now with live journal!
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Pigwidgeon
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"'His life was gentle, and the elements So mix'd in him that Nature might stand up And say to all the world 'This was a man!'"
-------------------- "...that is generally a matter for Pigwidgeon, several other consenting adults, a bottle of cheap Gin and the odd giraffe." ~Tortuf
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Kelly Alves
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iGeek sent this around FaceBook earlier. Perfect.
-------------------- I cannot expect people to believe “ Jesus loves me, this I know” of they don’t believe “Kelly loves me, this I know.” Kelly Alves, somewhere around 2003.
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Mamacita
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quote: Originally posted by Tubifex Maximus: I think what I find so extraordinary is his capacity for forgiveness after all that he went through. I think that own refusal to live without rancour acted as a witness to others and helped to ensure that South Africa became a democratic state....
"As I walked toward the gate that would lead to my freedom, I knew that if I didn't leave my bitterness and hatred behind, I'd still be in prison."
May light perpetual shine upon him.
-------------------- Do not be daunted by the enormity of the world’s grief. Do justly, now. Love mercy, now. Walk humbly, now. You are not obligated to complete the work, but neither are you free to abandon it.
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Wesley J
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-------------------- Be it as it may: Wesley J will stay. --- Euthanasia, that sounds good. An alpine neutral neighbourhood. Then back to Britain, all dressed in wood. Things were gonna get worse. (John Cooper Clarke)
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Mary LA
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-------------------- “I often wonder if we were all characters in one of God's dreams.” ― Muriel Spark
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lilBuddha
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Japes
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Craigmaddie
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He did many good things but he also foisted "one of the most liberal abortion laws in the world" (Guttmacher Institute) on his native country. An act that most black South Africans still oppose.
May God be merciful to him.
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Jane R
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quote: I think what I find so extraordinary is his capacity for forgiveness after all that he went through.
This.
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Barnabas62
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Now, finally, completely free. Special man, Nelson. We shall not see his like again.
-------------------- Who is it that you seek? How then shall we live? How shall we sing the Lord's song in a strange land?
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Marvin the Martian
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quote: Originally posted by Barnabas62: We shall not see his like again.
Hopefully because we'll never need to...
-------------------- Hail Gallaxhar
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IngoB
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Luckily I have a hat on today.
So I can take it off.
-------------------- They’ll have me whipp’d for speaking true; thou’lt have me whipp’d for lying; and sometimes I am whipp’d for holding my peace. - The Fool in King Lear
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Dafyd
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Brave world that has had such people in it.
-------------------- we remain, thanks to original sin, much in love with talking about, rather than with, one another. Rowan Williams
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Robert Armin
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God Bless Mandela. And God Bless South Africa, now that he has gone.
-------------------- Keeping fit was an obsession with Fr Moity .... He did chin ups in the vestry, calisthenics in the pulpit, and had developed a series of Tai-Chi exercises to correspond with ritual movements of the Mass. The Antipope Robert Rankin
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Desert Daughter
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-------------------- "Prayer is the rejection of concepts." (Evagrius Ponticus)
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EtymologicalEvangelical
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“It is never my custom to use words lightly. If twenty-seven years in prison have done anything to us, it was to use the silence of solitude to make us understand how precious words are and how real speech is in its impact on the way people live and die.”
-------------------- You can argue with a man who says, 'Rice is unwholesome': but you neither can nor need argue with a man who says, 'Rice is unwholesome, but I'm not saying this is true'. CS Lewis
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Schroedinger's cat
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Hardly unexpected, but nonetheless a sad passing. He was one of those few people of truly global significance and impact. He has changed the world that we all live in.
I feel privileged to have been alive when he was, and to have lived in the same world as he did.
-------------------- Blog Music for your enjoyment Lord may all my hard times be healing times take out this broken heart and renew my mind.
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shamwari
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He did bestride the world as a colussus
and the elements in him were so mixed up that all the world might say 'This was a man'.
RIP Majiba
Pity that those who succeeded him were of so lesser stature. And the shameless posturing of Jacob Zuma beside an old man looking into the middle distance and unaware that he was being "used" is a disgrace.
South Africa is still a long way from realising his dream. But this One Man showed the way to its realisation.
And when the dream fails? You only have to look at Zimbabwe.
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McChicken
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There's a Maaori proverb which I'd like to share:
"I te wao nui a Taane ka hinga te totora whakahira"
"In the great forest of Taane (god of the forests) a mighty totora (one of the tallest trees) has fallen"
-------------------- "We're not playing tiddly-winks here mate." "While the opposite of a true statement is a false statement, the opposite of a profound truth can be another profound truth."
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Golden Key
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for him, his family and friends, and all affected.
Re forgiveness: The news coverage said that when he was stepping out the door of the prison, he realized that if he didn't forgive, they'd still have him.
-------------------- Blessed Gator, pray for us! --"Oh bat bladders, do you have to bring common sense into this?" (Dragon, "Jane & the Dragon") --"Oh, Peace Train, save this country!" (Yusuf/Cat Stevens, "Peace Train")
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