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Ariel
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I've been having fun doing the Sudoku and some logic puzzles, but wondered if shipmates had any favourite kinds of brain-teasers or types of puzzles that they felt like recommending?
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I hate logic puzzles. They always feel to me as though I'm trying to cram my brain into shoes two sizes too small (and possibly designed for non-humans). I used to do the daily crossword in my local paper, but they've become too easy, so I switched to puzzles that now take me a week to finish (if I ever do) instead of 5 minutes.
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I used to do sudoko-like puzzles - although not the actual sudoku ones, because I don't like them.
Indigo puzzles closed, sadly, so I no longer have anywhere to do them. I think my brain misses out.
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I'm a complete Codeword addict. I used to rely on what was available on the internet, which limited the amount per day, but now I've made the mistake of putting a proper app on my kindle. I will never get anything done IRL ever again.
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daisydaisy
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I have Lumosity brain training on my iPad which I try to do each day and which I find I get better at the more I do it.
On days when I travel to London I also do the crosswords in the Evening Standard on the way home.
But I can't bring myself to start Sudoko - I think I could easily get addicted ![[Hot and Hormonal]](icon_redface.gif)
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The 2048 game is my new puzzle based distractor. A few years ago, I discovered Ken Ken, which is a more interesting version of sudoku.
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Piglet
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Codewords, Sudoku and Proper Crosswords™, i.e. cryptic British ones, as found in the Times, Telegraph and Grauniad.
We used to subscribe to the Times and Telegraph online crossword clubs (at about £25 each per year), but when our sub expired a few years ago, D. discovered that the Grauniad ones were free, and they're even more devious (and consequently more fun) than the others.
Newspaper crosswords on this side of the Pond are, IMHO, no use at all - even the ones they call "cryptic" are about the standard I'd expect in the Beano.
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Piglet
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Originally posted by Hart:
The 2048 game is my new puzzle based distractor ...
I think I may have to find you and kill you for posting that, Hart - I have now played it twice, and I suspect it may be the most addictive thing since "make your own snowflake".
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A few years ago I took a post-graduate course that had A-level maths as an entry requirement. I don't have A-level maths and when I was at school I needed special tuition to pass my O-level rather badly (for those younger than BBC2, O-levels are more or less what we had before they became GCSEs)
But they allowed for that by having a short exam in just those parts of the A-level syllabus that were relevant to the course (algebra, probability, and staistics mainly). So the summer before the course started I bought myself an A-level textbook and read the relevant chapters and worked through the example questions at the back of each chapter and learned enough to get in. I also got myself a notebook and started writing a sort of cribsheet of mathematical reminders. To, er, remind me.
Two surprises. First it was quite fun. Second I was much better at it at age 50 than I had been at 15 (Its not supposed to be like that for maths). So each summer since then I've spent a few weeks trying to learn a little more maths, or read a couple of books about maths, and maybe add to my notebook. Its fun, stimulating, and doesn't get boring because my memory for mathematicvs is so bad I've usually forgotten most of what I learned the year before - it only sticks in my brain for a few days or weeks! I need that notebook/cribsheet.
(I can't remember numbers either. Including my own phone number. Words, yes. Easy. I think in words. Numbers and equations, much harder. Diagrams can be difficult too. To learn what a diagram or an equation really means I need to translate it into words, make up a little story to tell myself about it, explain it to myself)
There is a limit to how far I can press that though. I got a copy of Roger Penrose's book "The Road to Reality: A Complete Guide to the Laws of the Universe" which purports to describe all of modern physics as a multidimensional manifold of some sort - he thinks that that is simpler to understand than traditional ways of describing it, which I guess just goes to show that people think differently. The book as something like 50 chapters. I rad it carefully up to abut chapter 15, realised I had lost track entirely, went back to maybe chapter 8 and re-read it slowly and still got bogged down a third of the way in.
On the other hand, for the first time in my life, while reading it I think I understood Euler's equation, and its special case the famous e**(i*pi)=-1 The trouble is, as soon as I understood them, they stopped looking like weird mysterious wonderfulness, and became tautologies....
Like the day about thirty-five years earlier when I suddenly understood the ontological proof of the existence of God and realised that it was in fact true - if and only if God actually existed. OK, that was slightly chemically-assisted and much more fun.
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Amorya
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Originally posted by Hart:
The 2048 game is my new puzzle based distractor.
If you like 2048, and you have an iPhone or Android phone, you should play Threes.
2048 is essentially a clone of Threes, and I'd rather reward the original author for their hard work polishing the idea. They've done a blog post explaining all the work they put into it during its 14 month development cycle.
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I do Sudoku puzzles, crosswords, and (once a week) acrostics.
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Crosswords and Scrabble (real time and online). Number games simply don't do it for me.
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Og, King of Bashan
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Originally posted by Chorister:
Crosswords and Scrabble (real time and online). Number games simply don't do it for me.
Before you write it off, I will mention (as I always do when I hear this) that Sudoku is not a number game. The numbers 1 through 9 are just place holders. It would be the exact same game if you used the letters A through I, nine different colors, or nine different names.
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lilBuddha
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I like Quell Momento, Theseus and Zen Bound, on the iPhone.
Though, the mental stimulation I prefer is designing things in my head, like furniture. Occasionally I will also build pieces. I prefer if I can do it without resorting to paper or computer.
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Kelly Alves
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Depending on where you are doing your arguing, that might drop your IQ, hon. ![[Biased]](wink.gif)
I play Scrabble and Words with Friends obsessively. I have this cunning strategy- I allow people who are way better than me to kick my ass soundly, but by allowing them this privilege I pick up their tricks and strategies. So while they think they are pounding me into a grease spot, they are actually training me to be a word game Iron Man.
I also play around with an IPad app called "Fitbrains", that has memory and focus training games.
And I haven't done it in a while but I am trying to plug away at the various lessons at Khan Academy, which is a sort of refresher-course website for folk who are trying to recover their memory of math classes past, among other things.
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Arabella Purity Winterbottom
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Logic puzzles got me out of depression and back to having a functional brain. Sudoku is also good.
Sadly, no one in Wellington seems to stock the really hard ones any more.
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Piglet
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Originally posted by Og, King of Bashan:
... Sudoku is not a number game. The numbers 1 through 9 are just place holders. It would be the exact same game if you used the letters A through I, nine different colors, or nine different names.
D. subscribes to an organists' magazine which has a Sudoku puzzle where the "markers" are pipe lengths - 1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 2⅔, III and Tr (tremulant), but I couldn't persuade him that it still wasn't a number puzzle.
There's a magazine in Orkney that does one with the letters O R K N E Y P I G, of which I rather approve. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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Book Worm! And Piglet, it's in a dead heat with Snowdays flakes.
And I just topped my best deluxe game score- I'm now up to 14,300,000 points on number one of my Top Ten game scores. Yay! ![[Yipee]](graemlins/spin.gif)
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Welease Woderwick
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I play Sudoku in the paper and online - and on Tuesday's I also do the children's Sudoku, which I often find alarmingly difficult, although today's was a breeze. I also do crosswords sometimes but not regularly.
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The Intrepid Mrs S
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Crosswords - all three of the Telegraph ones, the Guardian cryptic, and if it's a really awful day, the FT cryptic as well (though you have to print those out, and I try to save paper).
Codewords, yes, and the Polyword* that you get in the Saturday Telegraph (all right, they're in the weekday ones as well but are not included in the puzzles subscription).
And I entirely agree that you can divide people into those who think in words and those who think in numbers. At band practice, some people know the song numbers by heart, others (me among them) only know them by the titles. So I can't help thinking that I *ought* to be doing the number puzzles as brain training, just because I don't want to...
Still, it's amazing what you learn from doing crosswords - the problem is to remember it for next time!
* they give you 9 letters (which do make up one complete word) and you have to make as many words of 4 letters and over as you can, always including the central letter.
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Ariel
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I was completely hopeless at maths as a child and failed O level four times, despite special tuition. Years later I idly picked up a GCSE maths book from the library; six weeks later I’d worked through it, wondered why I’d ever found anything in it such a struggle, went on to some A level books and then embarked on an Open University degree in mathematics before dropping out after one term. (It was applied maths, so I don't entirely regret that; I always preferred pure.)
I still revisit my textbooks from time to time. You can only do four things with numbers: add, subtract, multiply and divide: all else is just a combination of those four principles. There can be a beauty about the way mathematics works and the insights into infinity, and getting to grips with the logic involved really sharpened up my thought processes.
Do I think in words or numbers – in words and images. Some numbers have a habit of sticking in the mind, though; I can still tell you my aunt’s phone number for the house she lived in in the 1970s and a friend’s car registration for a car he got rid of about 10 years ago.
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The Rogue
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Killer Su Doku for me and this site has loads.
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Jane R
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I like Codewords and those back-to-front crosswords where you have the clues, a few of the squares already blacked out, an indication of where some of the words start and then you have to fill in where the black squares are as well as working out the answers to the clues. Skeleton crosswords, is that what they're called?
I don't like Sudoku though, which is odd really - as a couple of people have pointed out it's more of a logic puzzle than a number puzzle and I do like logic puzzles.
And boardgames like Kingmaker and History of the World - but you need several other people to play those with you.
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Timothy the Obscure
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I do the cryptic crosswords in Harper's and The Nation, and when I run out of those I download them from the Guardian (it's hard to find cryptics in the US). I hate Sudoku--it feels about as exciting as balancing a checkbook, without the satisfaction of actually accomplishing anything. I like puzzles that one solves with a flash of insight and lateral thinking, not trial and error and computation.
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The Grandad and I sit down for our elevenses with two crosswords (Two-speed and Daily) and the Codecracker. It's remarkable how soothing the effect is: if ever we've had a serious disagreement it's all over by the time the puzzles are finished. Our daily paper prints a Daily Telegraph puzzle (the one where the 2/3 top words give a surprise alternative meaning) on the back page and I do one of these while he works on the Codecracker with occasional input from me.
We save the puzzles in sequence so that we always have the answers to hand. Cheating? Well, the idea is to complete the puzzle and maybe learn some new facts, or words, in the process.
Then there are general knowledge crosswords in the Saturday paper and the Listener. Google leads us down some interesting byways there.
I'm always staggered at the way a couple of letters can enable me to remember some arcane technical or scientific word that I may have come across once or twice decades ago.
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Firenze
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I get immense fun out of Word Welder.
It has a lot of repeat value, since once you've mastered the knack of surviving all levels, there's the pursuit of the ever-higher score.
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jedijudy
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Originally posted by Hart:
The 2048 game is my new puzzle based distractor.
And all this time I've been thinking Hart is a Nice Person™.
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Kelly Alves
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Tell me, Judy. I bet he gets it in , like, six moves, too.
(Why, why, why did I click that link? I immediately got the same feeling I got when I discovered GeoGuessr.)
OOh! Speaking of GeoGuesser-- would recommend it to anyone. I really have gained a lot of practical knowledge of world maps by playing that game. Hugely addictive, though-- it's like you're tricking yourself into believing you are actually traveling.
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Originally posted by jedijudy:
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Originally posted by Hart:
The 2048 game is my new puzzle based distractor.
And all this time I've been thinking Hart is a Nice Person™.
I also have been suckered in...I fear a new way of wasting time has just entered the collection...
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Ariel
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Yes. It's evil isn't it? ![[Cool]](cool.gif)
Some great suggestions on this thread - thanks all!
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ArachnidinElmet
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Apart from puzzling, I'm partial to the odd quiz. TV games like Pointless or Only Connect are good because they involve different ways of thinking.
A Christmas tradition in the Arachnid household is the attempted communal solving of the TLS Christmas quiz and the particularly devious King William's College quiz using only the reference books in the living room, and when we get really stuck, Wikipedia.
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jedijudy
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Tell me, Judy. I bet he gets it in , like, six moves, too.
I've been wondering how many times he's won. Hart! Time to fess up!
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Piglet
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I haven't managed to get to 2048 yet - the highest number I've managed so far is 512 (and I thought I was doing quite well at that).
Seconded for Geoguesser too - that was fun, although I tended to vacillate between being quite brilliant (very occasionally) and complete rubbish (mostly).
I'm also quite an addict of Scrabble Blast.
Oh yes, and Jeopardy! (despite the sometimes American-centric questions), and Pointless and Eggheads when I'm home on holiday.
I'm off to waste some time now ...
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Kelly Alves
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Originally posted by piglet:
I'm also quite an addict of Scrabble Blast.
(salivates)
Scrabble Blast?
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Originally posted by piglet:
I haven't managed to get to 2048 yet - the highest number I've managed so far is 512 (and I thought I was doing quite well at that).
Thanks, Hart, you sadistic so-and-so...
(I just got 512 too...)
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Kelly Alves
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Same here... but maybe I can beat that (off to play another round.)
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Jonah the Whale
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Originally posted by Jane R:
And boardgames like Kingmaker and History of the World - but you need several other people to play those with you.
I have both those, but it's hard to find people to play with. A nice site for satisfying board game or card game urges is boardgame arena
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Originally posted by Leorning Cniht:
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Originally posted by piglet:
I haven't managed to get to 2048 yet - the highest number I've managed so far is 512 (and I thought I was doing quite well at that).
Thanks, Hart, you sadistic so-and-so...
(I just got 512 too...)
And for the real artists there is 2048: Benedict Cumberbatch vs Otters Edition.
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Kelly Alves
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I was playing 2048 just now and some guy walked by and said" OMG my friend just won that yesterday! "
He said once you win, they just give you a new goal.
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To all who are trying their hand at 2048:
Weep!
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Firenze
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It's not the winning, it's the taking part....
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IngoB
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Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
He said once you win, they just give you a new goal.
You can simply continue with the same game. Messed it up about 10 moves later though, due to being sloppy after "having won". Once ones knows how to do this puzzle, one can pretty much keep going forever... but it becomes a tedious exercise in avoiding mistakes.
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Originally posted by IngoB:
To all who are trying their hand at 2048:
Weep!
It's.... beautiful....
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lilBuddha
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Originally posted by Earwig:
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Originally posted by IngoB:
To all who are trying their hand at 2048:
Weep!
It's.... beautiful....
No, it is Photoshop!
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Kelly Alves
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Originally posted by IngoB:
You can simply continue with the same game. Messed it up about 10 moves later though, due to being sloppy after "having won".
And that's when I learned a very special lesson about hubris, Little Timmy...
I believe it's not photoshopped, lilB. It just so figures, actually. ;D
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Ariel
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Thanks, Ingo - you've saved me a lot of effort. Now that I know what it looks like, I don't feel any need to keep on trying. (Odd but true.) Now I feel free.
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Kelly Alves
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See, I have the opposite feeling, mine is "Darn his socks, I will beat him if it kills me." Which means my envy based motivation will keep me at 256 for two weeks.
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Jesus loves me, this I know” of they don’t believe “Kelly loves me, this I know.”
Kelly Alves, somewhere around 2003.
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lilBuddha
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Monument Valley is an app on iTunes which, though not very challenging mentally, is absolutely gorgeous. Much like Zen touch, the experience is more important than the challenge.
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Hallellou, hallellou
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