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Thread: Cafe certificates...
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Alex Cockell
Ship’s penguin
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... really need to be sorted out. As I'm running latest Java and it's blocking it as an unsafe app - certificates are out of date.
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Doublethink.
Ship's Foolwise Unperson
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I think it is basically dead now.
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Doublethink.
Ship's Foolwise Unperson
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I take that back, I just made it work on an emulator on an ipad !
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Doublethink.
Ship's Foolwise Unperson
# 1984
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Used firefox virtual browser app if anyone wants to try that.
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Wesley J
Silly Shipmate
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Ok, and how can you get in on Windows 7 and FF29, please? Like Alex, I've been unable to access for months. Annoying.
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Doublethink.
Ship's Foolwise Unperson
# 1984
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Well, dunno about the quality of these but they might help: http://softadvice.informer.com/Java_Emulator_For_Pc_Windows_7.html
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ecumaniac
Ship's whipping girl
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Where's the cafe thread that used to be in AS?
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Alex Cockell
Ship’s penguin
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EWhat with all the Heartseek nasties - it would more behoove Shop admins to get proper Verisign certificates again if they want to maintain it
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Spike
Mostly Harmless
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![[Confused]](confused.gif)
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Alex Cockell
Ship’s penguin
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Basically, the current versions of Java reject the certificates as invalid. A new cert set woull be needed.
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Wesley J
Silly Shipmate
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I agree with Alex. It would really help if this were sorted out.
I'm not on FaceBonk, nor am I planning to be. The Ship Cafe is one of very few online occasions where you can meet and interact live online with some fairly decent people - whom you may know from the Boards! It is very stimulating. Potentially.
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Be it as it may: Wesley J will stay. --- Euthanasia, that sounds good. An alpine neutral neighbourhood. Then back to Britain, all dressed in wood. Things were gonna get worse. (John Cooper Clarke)
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ecumaniac
Ship's whipping girl
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So .... I shouldn't bother waiting patiently in the Cafe then? ![[Waterworks]](graemlins/bawling.gif)
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Paul.
Shipmate
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I suspect the AS Cafe thread got archived in the last spring clean - or the one before, the Cafe has been very under-used for a long time, shame really.
I'm sure AS hosts wouldn't mind if you started a new one. Though many people can't or won't (re: certificates) go there now.
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fletcher christian
Mutinous Seadog
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Would it be possible to have a basic cafe that works, or use a free cafe service (if there is one)?
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Emma-Jean
Shipmate
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I can't get the cafe up on my macbook. They are protecting my security. Miss chatting with everyone ![[Frown]](frown.gif)
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cattyish
Wuss in Boots
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I mihg tchat in a café again if I can get it from my 'phone. And I'm due a new 'phone next month so I'll watch this space.
Cattyish, more mobile than in 2004.
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BroJames
Shipmate
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It is possible to access the Café by adding the site from which it is downloaded (http://dylan.ablette.net) to the Exception Site List in the Java Security Settings panel, but you are very strongly warned that this is a security risk. I am not enough of a techie to know what the nature of the risk is, or how much of a risk it is, so having tried it to see that it works, I have removed the site again.
Obviously the best solution would be for the certificates to be up to date.
(Incidentally for Mac users, once the Faverolle.jnlp file has downloaded, you have to open the Downloads folder and Ctrl-click (or right-click) the file to bring up a contextual menu and select 'Open' in order to get a dialog which enables you to bypass the security setting which prevents you opening software from unidentified developers. Obviously you need to be sure for yourself that any given piece of software is safe before you do that.)
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Alan Cresswell
Mad Scientist 先生
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Originally posted by BroJames:
It is possible to access the Café by adding the site from which it is downloaded (http://dylan.ablette.net) to the Exception Site List in the Java Security Settings panel
That works! I'm in the Cafe for the first time in years.
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Ariel
Shipmate
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I got straight in without having to download anything, or fiddle with any settings, but I haven't updated my software since the year dot.
Seems a bit empty in there.
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Curiosity killed ...
Ship's Mug
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The general advice on computer sites is not to run anything that requires Java because having Java on your computer is the biggest gateway for attacks and viruses. Which is why I don't run it on any computer now. When I had a spare laptop with no files or anything confidential ever used on it, I'd run the café, but that laptop is no longer working.
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lowlands_boy
Shipmate
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quote:
Originally posted by Curiosity killed ...:
The general advice on computer sites is not to run anything that requires Java because having Java on your computer is the biggest gateway for attacks and viruses. Which is why I don't run it on any computer now. When I had a spare laptop with no files or anything confidential ever used on it, I'd run the café, but that laptop is no longer working.
Hmm - I'm not sure I'd agree with that - have you got any links?
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Originally posted by fletcher christian:
Would it be possible to have a basic cafe that works, or use a free cafe service (if there is one)?
How about somebody setting up an IRC channel somewhere?
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Curiosity killed ...
Ship's Mug
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Try Wikipedia on the Java issues. Or just googling Java security issues. Oracle has been sending out critical patch updates to fix things, and there's another lot due in the next few days, but the main criticism
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has been directed at the programming language, and Oracle, due to an increase in malicious programs that revealed security vulnerabilities in the JVM, which were subsequently not properly addressed by Oracle in a timely manner.
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