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Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on :
 
* think some people really need to remove a pole or two from up their backsides, and * further think Comic Sans is funky, fresh and fun.
 
Posted by Ariston (# 10894) on :
 
Fuck you up your cottontailed backside with a rust-siezed combine.

Here's what's wrong with CS: it neither lends itself towards forming paragraph lines (as most serif typefaces do), nor is it recognizable as individual letters at low resolutions like sans serif faces. It is a bastardized hybrid of type and handwriting, filled with enough curved lines to lead to illegibility, but without the stroke and flow variation of a true script face like Zapfino that gives true beauty and grace.

In other words, it possesses neither form nor function. It is an abomination before Aldus Mantinus, Claude Garamond, and Eric Gil. Anathema sit.
 
Posted by comet (# 10353) on :
 
* find whole pages of it very hard to read. otherwise, * don't care.
 
Posted by Gussie (# 12271) on :
 
* always thought it was a chirpy, cheery sort of typeface and used to use it for poster etc at school, till my dyslexic son described it as 'fascist'. * assume he'd been subjected to enless worksheets in the font as a child, given to him by teachers who thought they were being helpful.
 
Posted by Palimpsest (# 16772) on :
 
Comic Sans would be ok for a caption in a comic balloon. It is deliberately awkward so it doesn't do well with books, like this one about Pope Benedict. It also suffers from being a widely distributed free font so it's been widely overused. Even the handsome Times New Roman is worn out from over use; Comic Sans, even in it's redesign is just not up to the spotlight.

If you want to consider fascism and fonts, * highly recommend watching the movie Helvetica.
 
Posted by Ariel (# 58) on :
 
Comic Sans has an image problem; it comes across as a font aimed at children, or the font of choice of people who have just discovered the wonderful possibilities of desktop publ***ing on their home computer and think posters look really eye-catching in it, preferably as typed text with bright primary colours and underlining.

It's also more like a handwriting font but without the elegance and flow of a script font; deliberately designed to be less intimidating than Times Roman. If you're the sort of person who's intimidated by a typeface.
 
Posted by Marvin the Martian (# 4360) on :
 
It looks lovely! You can't deny that Heaven has been vastly improved by being displayed in such a fun, cheerful font [Big Grin] .
 
Posted by Barnabas62 (# 9110) on :
 
What Ariston observed about the font, minus the rust-seized combine.

Probably a subjective thing as well, Kelly. It feels like it makes my eyes cross! Don't think it does [Paranoid]
 
Posted by Penny S (# 14768) on :
 
* went to the trouble of getting Sassoon fonts for our school, so worksheets and displays matched the handwriting books, and had to fume when the staff preferred Comic Sans. It has its place - but not in education.
 
Posted by Lyda*Rose (# 4544) on :
 
My bff's first grade teaching cluster uses it exclusively.

(And it compliments the classic smilie so well! [Mad] )

Just correcting a typo in your smileys.
[Angel] Ariel
Heaven Host

[ 19. September 2014, 11:42: Message edited by: Ariel ]
 
Posted by Ariston (# 10894) on :
 
The fact that so many of you like that typographic bastard Times New Roman, a mashup of the baroque and modern blending the elegance of neither and useful only for cramming in more words per column inch, speaks volumes to how heavily brainwashed you have been.

Go look at Hell. That's Garamond. That's elegance. Learn it. Love it. Live it.
 
Posted by Late Paul (# 37) on :
 
A Defence of Comic Sans

(Paul, who just spent half an hour figuring out a script to replace one font with another.)
 
Posted by Dafyd (# 5549) on :
 
Culled from the late great ken's contributions to the quotes file:
quote:
Comic Sans has no valid uses. If you find yourself thinking that it does, take that as a sign from God that you are not called to edify the church through typography.

 
Posted by jedijudy (# 333) on :
 
A little bit goes a long way, IMHO.

Reading through these threads has given me a bit of a headache!!!

[Help]
 
Posted by Late Paul (# 37) on :
 
tbh in terms of "my eyes, my eyes!" the font is a distant second to that orange.
 
Posted by Marvin the Martian (# 4360) on :
 
quote:
Crap spouted by Late Paul:
tbh in terms of "my eyes, my eyes!" the font is a distant second to that orange.

That's funny, given that the orange was the part that the Heaven Hosts actually requested!
 
Posted by Mamacita (# 3659) on :
 
quote:
Crap spouted by Marvin the Martian:
quote:
Crap spouted by Late Paul:
tbh in terms of "my eyes, my eyes!" the font is a distant second to that orange.

That's funny, given that the orange was the part that the Heaven Hosts actually requested!
Heaven Hosts have a mean streak.
 
Posted by comet (# 10353) on :
 
quote:
Crap spouted by Mamacita:
quote:
Crap spouted by Marvin the Martian:
quote:
Crap spouted by Late Paul:
tbh in terms of "my eyes, my eyes!" the font is a distant second to that orange.

That's funny, given that the orange was the part that the Heaven Hosts actually requested!
Heaven Hosts have a mean streak.
it's not just a streak.
 
Posted by Ariel (# 58) on :
 
It's one of my favourite colours. Ι come here more often now just for the sheer pleasure of looking at this beautiful warm colour.

Ι think Hell looks great in that new coat of red as well.
 
Posted by Sober Preacher's Kid (# 12699) on :
 
* prefer Palatino Linotype.
 
Posted by Palimpsest (# 16772) on :
 
Times New Roman is overused but it's a good sturdy font. It's a recut of a recut of the Dutch Plantin and packs a lot of text in a legible face that survives mediocre printing. It could use a vacation from being used for every desktop publ***ing text. Maybe Caslon is ready for a comeback.

Garamond is more elegant (* like the Galliard version)and the Zapf faces like Palatino, Optima and Melior are elegant but haven't transitioned that well to desktop publ***ing; the curves are too subtle.

And for headline silliness there's always
Cooper Black
 
Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on :
 
All joking aside, Eye tend to use Arial.

Am * due fer a beatin', Ariston?

Heh. The hated font does have its uses.

[ 19. September 2014, 19:24: Message edited by: Kelly Alves ]
 
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on :
 
* didn't think it bothered me until * read this page, and now my eyes hurt.

See you after the H&A day's fin***ed. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on :
 
Here's the thing, my iPad is pretty much refusing to translate the text into Comic Sans, so the only time * see the change is when * switch to the PC. So * can sit on my high horse and laugh at everone's torment while avoiding it myself. Which * suppose makes me a huge bitch but hey-- it is my day to play. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Eutychus (# 3081) on :
 
Sign the pledge!!

(Site includes amazingly misplaced uses of Comic Sans)
 
Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on :
 
On PC now. Eyes are crossing. Yowch.

Yeah and Ariel? Either the text or the orange, but both together make my eyes fry.
 
Posted by Boogie (# 13538) on :
 
Sans serif fonts are easier to read.

Orange headers are a work of the devil.

[Devil]
 
Posted by jedijudy (# 333) on :
 
My eyes hurt.

Away with this!!
 
Posted by Penny S (# 14768) on :
 
Easier to read in certain circumstances. Serif fonts enable text in lower case to be read more easily as whole words, as the tails draw the letters together.
Not so good when learning, and still doing the phonics stuff. (Having typed "phonics" * realise why the reviled Initial Teaching Alphabet produced single signs for such things as ph, as sounding out the separate letters didn't work.)

The board looks much better now.
 
Posted by Anglican_Brat (# 12349) on :
 
In the university, I am amused to read instructions by Professors directing students to always use Times New Roman for their term papers.

No Garamond, and certainly not Comic Sans.
 
Posted by itsarumdo (# 18174) on :
 
quote:
Crap spouted by Anglican_Brat:
In the university, I am amused to read instructions by Professors directing students to always use Times New Roman for their term papers.

No Garamond, and certainly not Comic Sans.

Garamond is my favourite - it's elegant and more readable than the same font size in Times. An equivalently readable font in Times is about 10 or 15% bigger.

I guess that if all papers are all the same format, then nobody gets extra points for using a really beautiful font.
 
Posted by argona (# 14037) on :
 
Some outfit once researched whether the font used affected marks given by teachers. They concluded it did. The winner? Georgia.
 
Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on :
 
On that note- back to Heaven with you!
 
Posted by Anglican_Brat (# 12349) on :
 
In academic writing, I stick to either Times New Roman or Arial and always, always, always font size 12, lest the gods of proper word processing strike me dead.

I confess however, to a sneaky love of Book Antiqua, the poor man's version of Palatino:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palatino#Book_Antiqua_and_other_unauthorised_versions
 
Posted by Ariel (# 58) on :
 
Times Roman is a classic but so over-used that it's become a visual cliche.

I like Garamond myself, but that's directly related to my two favourite Alan Garner books which I read as a child being set in Garamond, and since then, I've never quite been able to shake off the perception that anything in Garamond Italic must be at least a little bit magical.

Microsoft provided Calibri as a default font in recent releases, which I like a lot. Its serif partner, Cambria, is also easy on the eye. Gill Sans is a good alternative to Calibri.
 
Posted by itsarumdo (# 18174) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ariel:
Times Roman is a classic but so over-used that it's become a visual cliche.

I like Garamond myself, but that's directly related to my two favourite Alan Garner books which I read as a child being set in Garamond, and since then, I've never quite been able to shake off the perception that anything in Garamond Italic must be at least a little bit magical.

Microsoft provided Calibri as a default font in recent releases, which I like a lot. Its serif partner, Cambria, is also easy on the eye. Gill Sans is a good alternative to Calibri.

I remember lead typesetting for the school printing press in the 1970's using Gill Sans. In some ways it has aged less than Times. Despite lots of cleaning the o's always clogged up slightly with ink and tended to print a little bit thicker than they should have.
 
Posted by Curiosity killed ... (# 11770) on :
 
I like Calibri too, and used Georgia when the default was Times New Roman or Arial. These days I use Verdana for websites as a universal font which is nicer to look at than Arial. Serif fonts on websites, other than for headings, are harder to read.

Universal font meaning it reads the same on Linux, Windows and Apple - unlike most of the fonts used this H&A Day just gone, which all passed me by as Linux and Android didn't pick any of them up, just showed defaults.

If you ask dyslexics if they like Comic Sans, most I've asked aren't that keen. They do like Verdana, Arial, Tahoma - reasonably clear sans serif fonts, rather than serif fonts, which they find harder to read.
 
Posted by Eutychus (# 3081) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ariel:
I like Garamond myself, but that's directly related to my two favourite Alan Garner books which I read as a child being set in Garamond, and since then, I've never quite been able to shake off the perception that anything in Garamond Italic must be at least a little bit magical.

That would explain my original attraction to that font, too. I was cured of this by a John Piper book set in Garamond; for me, it is now the "super-spiritual" font.

I like Calibri for everyday use, too.
 
Posted by Sir Kevin (# 3492) on :
 
I prefer Times New Roman on the computer. In the classroom, on the blackboard, I use a typeface which I have invented myself as it is faster than to write than normal printing. It has no name: I need to plot the whole alphabet out and get it copyrighted....
 
Posted by Albertus (# 13356) on :
 
Calibri's good for every day: Garamond is classy: Perpetua is rather beautiful and makes a lovely italic.

[ 21. September 2014, 15:44: Message edited by: Albertus ]
 
Posted by LeRoc (# 3216) on :
 
I often use some form of Liberation.
 
Posted by Boogie (# 13538) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Albertus:
Calibri's good for every day: Garamond is classy: Perpetua is rather beautiful and makes a lovely italic.

Agreed on all counts [Smile]
 
Posted by Eutychus (# 3081) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ariel:
Times Roman is a classic but so over-used that it's become a visual cliche.

Times New Roman is the default font of French administration.

Except for the really important official prison memos appointing governors, chaplains and so on... which are in Comic Sans MS.
[brick wall]
 
Posted by RuthW (# 13) on :
 
I am already sick to death of Calibri. And while I know most people probably don't care enough to choose a font and just use the default, I don't understand it.

Also, the Microsoft default font-size of 11 for Calibri is too small, at least for my aging eyes. And again, I don't understand why people just accept this.

One of the first things I do when I get a new computer is to define the default fonts. My default font at work is Palatino, since it's one of the fonts specified in the church's style guidelines, and at home it's Georgia.
 
Posted by Lamb Chopped (# 5528) on :
 
Every time I see Calibri I think "Caliban." This is messing with my head.
 
Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on :
 
For my part, I thought she was going off on the Who thread and I'd hit the wrong tab.

Georgia is quite pleasant. Wonder If I can set my iPad to it?
 
Posted by Pigwidgeon (# 10192) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Lamb Chopped:
Every time I see Calibri I think "Caliban." This is messing with my head.

It fits right in with Arial (or Ariel)...
 
Posted by Timothy the Obscure (# 292) on :
 
I like Bookman Old Style or Garamond myself (though I default to Times New Roman just because it's become the standard). If I want to be whimsical, I'll go all out and use Jokerman--anything but Comic Sans....
 
Posted by Fineline (# 12143) on :
 
I'm not dyslexic, but I have Irlen Syndrome, and I've always found Comic Sans incredibly easy to read. I wish the Kindle had it as an option.
 


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