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croinua
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Hi.
I was wondering what sort of denominations people aligned themselves to on this website. From what I can tell, most people seem to represent a Liberal Anglican faith but I'm sure there are other denominations represented.

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I've never done a head count but I know how I 'feel' when reading posts from illiberals. There is a smattering of conservative RCs, most of whom are converts and claim to know the faith better than those born into it.

There are many open or post-evangelicals.

Anglo-catholics are less in evidence than they used to be - maybe there's another website where they can mourn the loss of maniples.

I think liberal Anglicans are a minority - they are the few whom i know by name and get support from when i get flak.

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I'm an Anglo Catholic - you might have guessed from the user name. I'm as spiky as you like.
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croinua
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Plenty of conservative RCs where I'm from who would seriously argue that the lack of a maniple would invalidate the mass.
I was hoping this forum wouldn't go in for any of that.

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I'm ordained PCUSA (Presbyterian) but serve and feel at home in a small evangelical denon. (So I guess leo can "feel" my ill-liberal posts...?)

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quote:
Originally posted by leo:
I've never done a head count but I know how I 'feel' when reading posts from illiberals. There is a smattering of conservative RCs, most of whom are converts and claim to know the faith better than those born into it.

Converts usually take the time to learn their faith. Many who are "born into it" are ignorant of their faith.

As for the OP, I'm Orthodox. Converted from traditionalist RC.

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quote:
Originally posted by cliffdweller:
I'm ordained PCUSA (Presbyterian) but serve and feel at home in a small evangelical denon. (So I guess leo can "feel" my ill-liberal posts...?)

No - yours vaguely make me question my assumptions - which is good - rather than annoy me

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quote:
Originally posted by leo:
quote:
Originally posted by cliffdweller:
I'm ordained PCUSA (Presbyterian) but serve and feel at home in a small evangelical denon. (So I guess leo can "feel" my ill-liberal posts...?)

No - yours vaguely make me question my assumptions - which is good - rather than annoy me
That's what we're all here for, yes? [Axe murder]

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I used to be a devotee of Tezcatlipoca, but I had a shattering mystical vision, and thereupon, as you can see, switched to Quetzalcoatl, who has rewarded me abundantly.

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Little confused with that post there. They seem to be Aztec Gods and I thought this was a Christian website.
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Is it? Fuck. You see, I had a vision of the great Toltec ruler, Ce Acatl Topiltzin, and he seemed to be murmuring something like 'ship of fools', so naturally enough, I took this as an indication. I have been traduced!

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Very good. [Roll Eyes]
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uh... welcome to the Ship, croinua. Let all who enter, throw assumptions out the window. bwahahaha!

[Snigger]

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quote:
Originally posted by croinua:
Very good. [Roll Eyes]

Apologies. I'm an Anglican with leanings towards Quetzalcoatl.

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Hello croinua.

Welcome to the ship. I leave it to others to put me in a box if that's their bag. I see myself as a Christian without denomination, although I do fully participate in the life and ministry of a church.

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Don't worry, croinua; it's not necessary to be Christian to contribute to the forums (which is a good job for the liberal Anglicans, come to think of it...). Some of our shipmates are agnostic or even (shock horror!) atheists! I couldn't comment on how seriously Quetzalcoatl worships Aztec gods....

Personally I'm pretty much 'Anabaptist', though not greatly bothered about denominational labelling; in absence of specifically traditional Anabaptist churches in Manchester I actually attend a local Baptist Church.

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croinua
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That's a nice approach.
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I thought this was a Christian website.
Wow. Somebody actually used, with purported seriousness, the Ship's favorite comedic catch-phrase.

At this rate, I'm half-expecting someone on the street to open a conversation with "Take my wife. Please!"

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quote:
Apologies. I'm an Anglican with leanings towards Quetzalcoatl.
You're also very funny!

Hi croinua, another Anglican here, quite catholic but quite liberal too with a very eclectic approach to theology.

I'm also half Irish [Yipee]

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quote:
Originally posted by croinua:
Hi.
I was wondering what sort of denominations people aligned themselves to on this website. From what I can tell, most people seem to represent a Liberal Anglican faith but I'm sure there are other denominations represented.

Hi croinua - welcome to the ship, where at least one member of every grouping believes they are in the minority and are got at [Devil]
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Probably more Daoist than anything else.

I was baptised Anglican, but stopped going to Church at about 7yo when it all seemed rather dreary and pointless - sticking silly stamps in an album for no apparent reason, sitting in a dusty dark oak panelled and light-bereft room listening to something that didn't seem to have much meaning.

I now practice Bruno Groening's teaching - which is non-denominational - and that (plus a little exposure to Swedenborg) interestingly has got me more interested in Christianity.

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I'm a Salvationist.

I guess that means I'm in a little box all by myself

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What denomination claims me as a member or what denomination do I feel most aligned with? [Smile]

Anyway, it changes every decade more or less as my spirituality evolves (or devolves, or whatever).

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Lutheran Church--Missouri Synod. Pretty much on my own on the Ship.

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quote:
Originally posted by quetzalcoatl:
I'm an Anglican with leanings towards Quetzalcoatl.

But you are quetzalcoatl ... aren't you?

quote:
Originally posted by Steve Langton:
Some of our shipmates are agnostic or even (shock horror!) atheists!

I'm one or other but not the "shock horror" sort, more vague and confused. I don't believe in the existence of Richard Dawkins.

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Born and raised Methodist but my membership lapsed a long time ago. During my student days I went to whatever evangelical church was popular - so Anglican, Baptist and "house church" charismatic in turn. Stuck with the later for about a decade. Then stopped going to church for a slightly longer time.

For the past year I've been regularly attending a Baptist church but I don't consider myself a Baptist - I'm not a member. Mostly because it's only on a good day I even consider myself a Christian.

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quote:
Originally posted by Mudfrog:
I'm a Salvationist.

I guess that means I'm in a little box all by myself

You get the Mercy Seat all to yourself, Mudfrog! [Smile]

I'm a Methodist, with some very slight leanings towards Buddhism since I started using Mindfulness meditation.

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Continuing Anglican, US variety.

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Why is this thread in Purgatory instead of Heaven?

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quote:
Originally posted by Steve Langton:
Don't worry, croinua; it's not necessary to be Christian to contribute to the forums (which is a good job for the liberal Anglicans, come to think of it...).

Steve, can I politely request that you apologise for casting aspersions on the faith of other Christians.

For myself I'm a Wee Piskie now I live this side of the border. Whether I am considered liberal or not is a matter of perspective. I imagine Peter Akinola would consider me very liberal and John Shelby Spong would consider me deeply conservative.

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I'm exploring that point on the Host Board, HCH.

Welcome croinua! I hope you enjoy the Ship and I assure you that Hosts don't just exist for the purpose of moving threads around! There is a value in reading the headings to each of the Boards to see which is the right one to start off a discussion.

This is a diverse place and not just open to self-declared Christians. We have a fair number of atheists and agnostics, and some representatives of other faiths. Disagreement is pretty normal around here, particularly between Christians (!) in accordance with our general ethos of unrest.

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Originally Conservative Evangelical C of E (Prayer Book Mattins and all that....), now licensed as a Reader in an Anglo-Catholic parish, and wondering how the wossname I got here......with secret leanings towards liberalism and the Cathar 'heresy'........

Ian J.

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I came to know the Lord as a kid in the Brethren (open)


and since then have been enriched on my journey via Anglican Catholicism, Zen, Society of Friends and MCC.

I have also been a mass attender since my teens (on and off), and am being received into the RCC in 37 days time.

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Welcome aboard croinua.

I am new here myself.


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I don't exactly know what is meant by some of these terms. Starting with "liberal Anglican" and "continuing Anglican". Baptist I get, they are the ones who have mini-swimming pools in their churches and I even understand a little bit of their point. Anabaptists? Not sure.

Myself, I was raised in the United Church of Canada, which as far as I know was formed by combing most of the Methodists and Presbyterians and virtually all of the Congregationalists into the second largest denomination in Canada. But I opted for the Anglican church in my mid-teens (in the actual order of importance) because I liked a girl who was Anglican, and I thought CS was a smart guy, and the liturgy and music were more interesting. I think this puts me on the opposite end of the group of folks who've had a deeply meaningful conversion experience, there was nothing much deep about me as a callow kid. Were I to give testimony, I'd have to begin "you see there was this girl...."

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I consider myself non-denominational but open-evo. I've been at my current church for 10 years and I'm still not a member [Smile]
I was an atheist until I was 25, spend 5 years at a large con-evo Anglican in London, 1 year middle of the road Baptist (temporary stop gap), 3 years trad Anglican village parish (left due to awful and very public conflict) and 10 years at our current New Frontiers church.

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quote:
Originally posted by Barnabas62:
Disagreement is pretty normal around here, particularly between Christians (!) in accordance with our general ethos of unrest.

To throw in a purgatorial red herring, it often seems to me that we get on better, and make more allowances, for people who are very different from us and quarrel more with those who are closer. Is this so, and if so why?

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I'm a Catholic (Roman variety) with a very strong streak of Quaker thrown in.

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quote:
Originally posted by no prophet's flag is set so...:
I don't exactly know what is meant by some of these terms. Starting with "liberal Anglican" and "continuing Anglican". Baptist I get, they are the ones who have mini-swimming pools in their churches and I even understand a little bit of their point. Anabaptists? Not sure.


Anabaptists = literally re-Baptisers. They have their origins in the folks who thought that not only were adult Baptisms better they were the only valid ones - so they baptised all their converts, even those who had already been baptised.

Continuing Anglicans are those who consider themselves to be Anglicans but have had a falling out with the Anglican Communion in general or with one or other particular church of it, usually but not necessarily over the ordination of women.

Liberal Anglican is a bit tough to pin down, as it can mean someone who is theologically orthodox but thinks that gay people and women can and should be ordained, or it can mean an atheist who likes the way Cranmer wrote. Or indeed anything between or beyond that.

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I'm an Episcopalian aka "liberal Anglican".

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by que sais-je;
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve Langton:
Some of our shipmates are agnostic or even (shock horror!) atheists!

I wasn't suggesting 'shock horror' in the atheists personally - it was just a slightly exaggerated way of making the point that the ship is not entirely Christian!

by arethosemyfeet;
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Steve, can I politely request that you apologise for casting aspersions on the faith of other Christians.
Yes, not one of my better moments (though light-hearted in intent - I sometimes misjudge such attempts); I apologise - though in a forum discussion I'd have some serious questions about the implications of both the liberality and the Anglicanism.

Also by arethosemyfeet;
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Anabaptists = literally re-Baptisers. They have their origins in the folks who thought that not only were adult Baptisms better they were the only valid ones - so they baptised all their converts, even those who had already been baptised.
That is the reason for the name 'Anabaptist' - that in the eyes of the mainstream churches of the Reformation era, who practiced infant baptism, the believer's baptisms of the Mennonites and others were seen as 'REbaptisms'. Like 'Methodist' it is originally a name given by the group's opponents, and would be applied to for example English Baptists like Bunyan.

The term has been adopted since to distinguish between the UK/US 'Baptists' and the slightly different tradition (including Mennonites/Amish/Hutterites and others) that grew up on the Continent. In that usage, Anabaptism involves some wider issues of separation of Church and State and of pacifism, not just the baptism issue. In the present, many Christians not in the traditional Anabaptist groups are exploring and using Anabaptist ideas.

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I'm CofE charismatic evangelical.
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croinua
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quote:
Originally posted by fullgospel:
I came to know the Lord as a kid in the Brethren (open)


and since then have been enriched on my journey via Anglican Catholicism, Zen, Society of Friends and MCC.

I have also been a mass attender since my teens (on and off), and am being received into the RCC in 37 days time.

Very good. I'll pray for you.
I probably should also say that I'm a Catholic although theologically, I'm quite liberal.

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bib
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My Anglican allegiances have altered over the years. I began as a middle of the road Anglican, became an evangelical, returned to middle of the road and over the past 15 years or so have joined an Anglo-Catholic parish. I'm inclined to think that many of us change during our journey through life and that what suits at one stage doesn't fulfil needs at a later time in life.

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que sais-je
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve Langton:
I wasn't suggesting 'shock horror' in the atheists personally - it was just a slightly exaggerated way of making the point that the ship is not entirely Christian!

No apology needed - I deliberately misinterpreted what you said - a part of me would like to shock or horrify someone just once in my life. But I've singularly failed so far. I'm even polite to the Jehovah's Witnesses.

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The old joke goes that a southerner was asked what kind of music he liked. He replied, "Both kinds." In that spirit, you could say that the Ship has both kinds of religion represented...

--Tom Clune, Methodist

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sonata3
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Lutheran - ELCA, with an interest in Anglican/Lutheran dialogue. But my lovely bride is Roman Catholic, so I follow developments in that denomination with interest.

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Humanist (atheistic variety) attend the local university chapel to keep the chaplains honest (they have two Episcopalian priests [one originally CoE] and a Conservative rabbi) though considering whether to switch to the local Unitarian Universalist church.

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