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Posted by la vie en rouge (# 10688) on :

Welcome to the city of lights, everyone. Today it is going to be 39°C in the shade. You are going to take the metro to get to and from work and only some of your fellow passengers will have taken a shower or availed themselves of deodorant. For your added enjoyment, we also have a massive spike in air pollution. Breathing has been made optional for the day.

We’re going to die.

[Mad]

<-- this is not so much an expression of annoyance as a pictorial representation of how infernally bloody hot it is

Posted by Marvin the Martian (# 4360) on :

Tad warm down your way, is it?

Posted by ElaineC (# 12244) on :

It's going to be fractionally cooler here in Central London - 34 degrees with the peak arriving for my journey home!

Last night it was already unbearably hot on the concourse of Victoria Station waiting for my train's platform to be displayed.

Air Con not working properly in our part of the office building. Wondering if the wi-fi works in the 'ladies' as it's much cooler in there.

I HATE these very high temperatures!!!

Posted by Alan Cresswell (# 31) on :

That's the sort of temperatures we were getting 5-6 weeks ago before I left Japan, and that was still spring.

Of course, the news is dominated by "Britain swelters in heat wave". Though, it certainly doesn't feel like a heat wave here. Though, as usual, "Britain" means the south of England.

Posted by Arethosemyfeet (# 17047) on :

We're having a heat wave here - the mercury hit 17C yesterday afternoon, and it might hit 20 later today. I may start to melt.

Posted by Athrawes (# 9594) on :

A tropical cyclone has formed around the Solomon Islands - unheard of in July, which is winter down here. So the unseasonably warm weather is not just in Europe.

Posted by Firenze (# 619) on :

Prague is a mere 26 C. If you stick to the shady side of Vaclavske Namesti, take your iced coffee in the upper room of the little Costa next Mustek - over there, say, by the open window - then it's only 3 stops back to Vysehrad, where you can sit on a tree-shaded rampart and watch the great grey green Vltava far below.

I don't know what you lot are complaining about.

Posted by Doc Tor (# 9748) on :

It's not like we weren't warned.

Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on :

Only a tad over 32C here, quite pleasant - and will be cooler the next few days as we will be up on the plateau. Cold the other night though when it was a mere 26C!!!

Posted by luvanddaisies (# 5761) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Arethosemyfeet:
We're having a heat wave here - the mercury hit 17C yesterday afternoon, and it might hit 20 later today. I may start to melt.

quote:
Originally posted by Welease Woderwick:
Only a tad over 32C here, quite pleasant - and will be cooler the next few days as we will be up on the plateau. Cold the other night though when it was a mere 26C!!!

I'm kind of curious to hear from Comet now, about what point people in her locale start to call it a hot summer day [Smile]

Posted by Marvin the Martian (# 4360) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Athrawes:
A tropical cyclone has formed around the Solomon Islands - unheard of in July, which is winter down here. So the unseasonably warm weather is not just in Europe.

It's almost as if some kind of change to the global climate is happening...

Posted by orfeo (# 13878) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:
Of course, the news is dominated by "Britain swelters in heat wave". Though, it certainly doesn't feel like a heat wave here. Though, as usual, "Britain" means the south of England.

I'll give Paris 39C, but to this Aussie the idea that 34C in London is a heatwave is rather unimpressive. Sure, it's pretty warm, but not anything remarkable.

Posted by Ariston (# 10894) on :

It's supposed to get into the upper 80's today. Not actually that much of a problem—'bout typical for this time of year, if on the warm side—except for the humidity. Which is mostly just annoying as I bike to work through air I could spread on toast and arrive looking both like I could use a shower and just came out of one.

Well, except for that whole "atmospheric energy + atmospheric moisture = Big Storms" part. The Big Furry Barking Thing What Lives Downstairs was not happy, and several routes people use to get into The City have been flooded, covered with river sand, half-cleaned, then promptly reflooded. Or tree roots no longer holding in the soggy ground, leaning to giant oaks falling through peoples' roofs and onto their cars.

Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :

Glances out of window at grey skies and pissing rain.... Yup, it's summer here in north east Scotland.

Posted by Arethosemyfeet (# 17047) on :

quote:
Originally posted by North East Quine:
Glances out of window at grey skies and pissing rain.... Yup, it's summer here in north east Scotland.

Aye, but the rain's warmer than usual, is it not?

Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :

Actually, yes. The warmer rain and slightly muggy quality to the grey probably explains why I'm currently listening to a delightful combination of thunder and pattering rain.

It was our Sunday School picnic on Sunday. We ate it in the church hall, listening to the rain bouncing off the roof.

Posted by LeRoc (# 3216) on :

My friend in Baltimore says it's a pleasant 71 there.

Posted by RooK (# 1852) on :

Just got back from Western Canuckistan where it was 42ºC in motherfucking June. In the mountains. Thankfully there is a plentitude of glacier-fed lakes to cool off in - for now, while the glaciers last.

Also heard that we are officially the latest extinction event. Yay us.

Posted by Penny S (# 14768) on :

My friend and I went out last night to photograph Jupiter and Venus, as close as they are going to get. Forecast - no cloud. We just managed to shoot two exposures, with the two planets either side of a strip of the stuff which was rapidly advancing to cover the rest of the sky. (I'm going to have to edit the pics to remove irritating aircraft trails). and then, on the way home, we encountered rain with huge drops, splatting on the windscreen. The sort of rain which would have been very much wetter than usual is we'd been out in it. No pattering on offer. Just over about half a mile of the A2, then all was dry again.

Posted by Ariel (# 58) on :

It's been about 94°F here most of the afternoon, which is just on the edge of starting to be difficult for me (I'd already ruled out the Marathon des Sables for other reasons, though). But mostly it's been all right. The bridge across platforms at the station and the lift were pretty definitely in excess of that - they are suntraps at the best of times.

Public transport is currently a freaking nightmare though. Speed restrictions, delays, cancellations, overcrowding, as well as the usual "signalling problems" and everything else make getting around or being anywhere on time almost impossible. There isn't any point in complaining, the staff at Customer Services aren't to blame for this and can't do anything about it.

Posted by Ariel (# 58) on :

quote:
Originally posted by orfeo:
I'll give Paris 39C, but to this Aussie the idea that 34C in London is a heatwave is rather unimpressive. Sure, it's pretty warm, but not anything remarkable.

In London, it is both remarkable and a heatwave. This is supposed to be the temperate zone, temperatures like this in this locality are rare.

For that reason we are also mightily impressed (or depressed) by as much as a whole two inches of snow in the winter.

Posted by kingsfold (# 1726) on :

Please could someone return me to my regularly scheduled Scottish summer? I'd be very happy with clear & dry and about 20C.

We've not had the rain, but it's so close and oppressive, I'm eagerly awaiting the thunderstorms we're supposed to be getting... (on the plus side, my flat is nice and cool)

Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :

I'll try to send our thunderstorms south, kingsfold.

Posted by passer (# 13329) on :

It was 36 C in Sheffield today. Whilst driving to Lincolnshire I saw someone in shorts in Bawtry - I thought they were illegal in South Yorks. Mrs passer is still at work. I'm limbering up for the "do we really have to have a bloody quilt in this weather?" discussion when she gets home.

Posted by Soror Magna (# 9881) on :

It was so hot today!

How hot was it?

It was so hot I broke a sweat while composing a text message. No kidding.

Posted by Sioni Sais (# 5713) on :

Hot and sticky most of the day but we had a light shower on the way to work, which was very refreshing. Could have used another on the way home!

Posted by Sioni Sais (# 5713) on :

quote:
Originally posted by passer:
It was 36 C in Sheffield today. Whilst driving to Lincolnshire I saw someone in shorts in Bawtry - I thought they were illegal in South Yorks.

Shorts wearer must have been under the impression he was playing Rugby League (it is the RL season).

quote:

Mrs passer is still at work. I'm limbering up for the "do we really have to have a bloody quilt in this weather?" discussion when she gets home.

We have that too, but at our age she can't abide the quilt. Window open, fan on, no quilt.

Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on :

Sissies.

In Oz for many of us it's only warm enough to get the bathing suit out if it's over 35.

BL. Currently minus 1 degree Celsius here. Not expected to get into double figures today. I consider that hellish.
I'll swap ya.

Posted by Karl: Liberal Backslider (# 76) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Banner Lady:
Sissies.

In Oz for many of us it's only warm enough to get the bathing suit out if it's over 35.

BL. Currently minus 1 degree Celsius here. Not expected to get into double figures today. I consider that hellish.
I'll swap ya.

It's a deal. Just put a fucking jumper on and quit your whining. Fucking poikilotherms.

[ 01. July 2015, 21:39: Message edited by: Karl: Liberal Backslider ]

Posted by Sandemaniac (# 12829) on :

It's been distinctly damp and sticky round the Trossachs for the last week.

I guess I should have worn a kilt...

AG

Posted by Wesley J (# 6075) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Karl: Liberal Backslider: [...] Fucking poikilotherms.

What are poikilotherms, and why are you fucking them? Does your wife know?

Posted by Curiosity killed ... (# 11770) on :

It's not the 34°C that's the problem, it's 34°C on the tube that's not nice, particularly the Central Line with no air conditioning and too many bodies all pumping out their kW each.

Posted by Beethoven (# 114) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Athrawes:
A tropical cyclone has formed around the Solomon Islands - unheard of in July, which is winter down here. So the unseasonably warm weather is not just in Europe.

Thing is, it's July. It's summer. A few days of (seasonably) hot weather isn't all that unusual. We just like to moan about it when it's not a sunny summer, and complain it's too hot the moment the clouds disappear... [Razz]

Posted by orfeo (# 13878) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Curiosity killed ...:
It's not the 34°C that's the problem, it's 34°C on the tube that's not nice, particularly the Central Line with no air conditioning and too many bodies all pumping out their kW each.

Note to Banner Lady: sooner or later someone will add this to the arguments against light rail in our town.

Posted by Baptist Trainfan (# 15128) on :

Budapest in Hungary can be seriously warm in summer. In 2006 they put into service some new "Combino" trams, fitted with conventional heating and cooling systems. But the temperatures inside them became unbearable, and the trams had to be retrofitted with air-conditioning.

It strikes me that one problem with modern public transportation is that they don't have windows that open, but sealed units. That's fine in winter, and it helps keep down noise, but it's hopeless in summer.

The older tube trains had opening windows above every seat - incredibly rattly and noisy, but cooler. And the RT bus had windows at the front of the top deck which could be wound down to give a great breeze through the bus!

The old Lisbon trams have windows which can be dropped down right into the bodywork - they used to have open end platforms, too. (This was great in the summer but not so good if a playful kid with a water pistol was standing by the side of the road - I speak from experience!)

Air-conditioning is not an answer: it is very difficult to "do" in narrow Tube tunnels (where does the heat go?), and ultimately increases energy use and global warming.

[ 02. July 2015, 10:02: Message edited by: Baptist Trainfan ]

Posted by sharkshooter (# 1589) on :

In Phoenix it has been in the 42C range most days for the past month or more.

Here in Ottawa, it is as if summer has not yet arrived. Some days highs are only in the mid-teens. Yesterday, 22C; today 22C. At least the weekend looks a bit warmer.

Guess where I'd rather be?

Posted by Pine Marten (# 11068) on :

Oh bliss! I've been standing in the garden under cool lovely RAIN [Big Grin]

Posted by la vie en rouge (# 10688) on :

quote:
Originally posted by passer:
Mrs passer is still at work. I'm limbering up for the "do we really have to have a bloody quilt in this weather?" discussion when she gets home.

Never mind the quilt. Last night I was seriously contemplating dispensing with the bed. I’m convinced it would have been less hot to sleep on the floor.

I understand why our Australian shippies think we are wimps, but the thing is, in Australia you’re set up for the heat. Even relatively modest homes often have air conditioning and/or swimming pools. Your houses are built to keep the heat out. In a lot of Western Europe we build to keep the heat in.

The public transport is the worst. None of it is air-conditioned. I swear if they transported animals in these conditions it would be illegal. The heat causes technical faults, which makes the trains even more over-crowded than usual, and then added delays kick in as our fellow commuters start keeling over from heat exhaustion*. Fun times.

*Not their fault. I have in the past come this close to passing out on the London Underground. The train pulled into a station just in time for me to stagger out onto the platform. Thirty seconds more and I was a goner. I was feeling fine when I boarded.

Posted by Ariel (# 58) on :

I thought last night would be a problem but it wasn’t. Windows open, duvet on, it was fine. I suspect I may be acclimatized to this, though. At least we’ve had a few days of summer – people pay to go abroad and soak up the sun and heat and we’ve just had it for free.

I agree it is worse in cities where the heat bounces back off the pavement at you and is reflected by large expanses of glass windows and the metal of cars, or when it’s amplified by machinery in confined spaces like the Tube.

Posted by orfeo (# 13878) on :

quote:
Originally posted by la vie en rouge:
I understand why our Australian shippies think we are wimps, but the thing is, in Australia you’re set up for the heat. Even relatively modest homes often have air conditioning and/or swimming pools. Your houses are built to keep the heat out. In a lot of Western Europe we build to keep the heat in.

No air con here (and yes, my house does get relatively foul, but that's what the fan is for - alternatively, decamp to somewhere like a cinema). In Canberra a heating system is more important. Most certainly no swimming pool.

In Western Europe you heat your buildings to temperatures that Australians find unpleasantly warm. Australians walking into an European building have to rapidly shed layers. Conversely, Europeans walking into Australian buildings keep as many layers on as possible!

[ 02. July 2015, 11:50: Message edited by: orfeo ]

Posted by Karl: Liberal Backslider (# 76) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Beethoven:

quote:
Originally posted by Athrawes:
A tropical cyclone has formed around the Solomon Islands - unheard of in July, which is winter down here. So the unseasonably warm weather is not just in Europe.
Thing is, it's July. It's summer. A few days of (seasonably) hot weather isn't all that unusual. We just like to moan about it when it's not a sunny summer

I don't. I like it.

Posted by Moo (# 107) on :

quote:
Originally posted by la vie en rouge:
Last night I was seriously contemplating dispensing with the bed. I’m convinced it would have been less hot to sleep on the floor.

When I was a child, on hot nights I not only slept on the floor, but I did it downstairs to the ground floor where it was cooler.

Moo

Posted by Karl: Liberal Backslider (# 76) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Wesley J:

quote:
Originally posted by Karl: Liberal Backslider: [...] Fucking poikilotherms.
What are poikilotherms, and why are you fucking them? Does your wife know?

What do they teach them in the schools today? - point being about people who don't seem to generate any internal heat so whine about the cold when it's anything approaching comfortable and actually sit out in the sun. q.v. lizards, snakes, etc.

[ 02. July 2015, 11:55: Message edited by: Karl: Liberal Backslider ]

Posted by LeRoc (# 3216) on :

I forgot to bring a jacket when I cycled to work this morning. So, given my normal state of luck, we can be very sure that it's going to poor down on England when it's time for me to cycle back again.

Posted by Baptist Trainfan (# 15128) on :

quote:
Originally posted by LeRoc:
So, given my normal state of luck, we can be very sure that it's going to poor down on England when it's time for me to cycle back again.

The destitute, indigent and unwaged falling out of the skies on top of you? [Devil]

Posted by LeRoc (# 3216) on :

quote:
Baptist Trainfan: The destitute, indigent and unwaged falling out of the skies on top of you?

They always do [Smile]

I also realise that I probably should have written 'coat' instead of 'jacket' (they're the same word in Dutch).

Posted by no prophet's flag is set so... (# 15560) on :

Back in western Canada. There's smoke everywhere. I'm 400 km south and east of the blazes, 135 forest fires, but there's smoke like I haven' t seen it since ~1980. Evacuations everywhere in the north. They are shipping people up to 1200 km. The sun in blood red this morning with haze visible between the neighbours and ourselves. Canada Day fireworks cancelled. Taste of smoke in the air.

Posted by Og, King of Bashan (# 9562) on :

El Nino year here, which means wet and cooler. Haven't had to water the lawn once, which is awesome, although the buildings here in the desert aren't built for this amount of moisture, so my office has been struggling with water damage and a musty smell.

Now for the hellish bit. I'm not a climate change denier, but has anyone else noticed an annoying trend of people blaming perfectly normal yet non-ideal weather on climate change? It snowed on Mother's Day this year, which is actually not that unusual- it's happened many times in my life. But everyone and his brother was talking about how "we better get used to this kind of thing going forward."

Posted by Carex (# 9643) on :

There is a huge "blob" of warm water sitting off the coast of Oregon - 4C warmer than the surrounding ocean. It is believed to be affecting the weather along the West Coast, but the details are uncertain as it seems to be a relatively recent discovery.

Posted by orfeo (# 13878) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Og, King of Bashan:
Now for the hellish bit. I'm not a climate change denier, but has anyone else noticed an annoying trend of people blaming perfectly normal yet non-ideal weather on climate change? It snowed on Mother's Day this year, which is actually not that unusual- it's happened many times in my life. But everyone and his brother was talking about how "we better get used to this kind of thing going forward."

Yup. The number of people (deniers and non-deniers alike) who can't tell the difference between climate and weather is huge.

Posted by Pine Marten (# 11068) on :

Indeed. Mr Marten likes to talk about seeing snow in June, and of course at the battle of Towton in 1461 they fought in a blinding snowstorm, on Palm Sunday (29 March that year). Our weather is always reliably unpredictable.

Posted by la vie en rouge (# 10688) on :

It is a well-known fact that the population of Paris is reduced to about half of its usual level in August as all the Parisians head to the Côte d’Azur. OTOH, in July we’re all still here and going to work.

So why has the Parisian transport authority AKA the United Syndicate of Lazy Slackers already gone onto the summer timetable? There’s only half as many trains, but exactly the same number of people and it’s thirty six bloody degrees. Malaise voyageur* on the line eight again last night. [Disappointed]

*roughly translated, a passenger taken ill. A malaise generally involves collapsing, fainting or similar.

Posted by Jonah the Whale (# 1244) on :

At this point I really miss ken. He would deliver a very heart-felt and entertaining rant about the evils of hot weather every time it got above 25 degrees for a couple of days.

Posted by MrsBeaky (# 17663) on :

We're in the rainy season here and it has been flipping freezing!
Such are the perils of living at altitude.
Other parts of Kenya like Turkana are another matter- I couldn't sleep when I was there as the night time temperature remained well into the 30s and daytime was just ridiculous. We're due to visit again later this year.....
Today the sun is out so I am going out into the garden to sit for a few minutes. I've been stuck at home for 2 days nursing a very sick husband so I feel I've earned those rays.

Posted by Sioni Sais (# 5713) on :

It's official. Europe is hot.

I remember the 2003 heatwave in France. We drove ~ 400miles on one day and it wasn't cooling down at night.

Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Og, King of Bashan:

Now for the hellish bit. I'm not a climate change denier, but has anyone else noticed an annoying trend of people blaming perfectly normal yet non-ideal weather on climate change? It snowed on Mother's Day this year, which is actually not that unusual- it's happened many times in my life. But everyone and his brother was talking about how "we better get used to this kind of thing going forward."

Yes, here in North East Scotland there's something with has been known for decades (centuries?) as the Teuchat Storm, which is a flurry of snow which happens when the teuchats (lapwings) arrive, in late March or early April.

Now every year when we get the Teuchat Storm, someone says ...oooh... This Has Never Happened Before It Must Be Climate Change, ignoring the fact that it has happened nearly every bloody year that I can remember, and my mother can remember and my grandfather could remember, and it's so reliable that it even has its own name.

People, it's not Climate Change, it's the time honoured Teuchat Storm. If it didn't happen, that would be Climate Change.

Posted by Bishops Finger (# 5430) on :

Snow at or around Easter is not entirely unknown here in the balmy/barmy SE corner of England. Only a few years ago, our organist suggested that we should change the Introit Hymn on Easter Sunday morning to 'Once in Royal David's City', as the snow gently settled.......

.....in said SE corner, we have some nice warm sunshine today, tempered by a brisk easterly breeze. Thunderstorms are forecast for tonight. Typical English weather, no?

Ian J.

Posted by Arethosemyfeet (# 17047) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Sioni Sais:
It's official. Europe is hot.

I remember the 2003 heatwave in France. We drove ~ 400miles on one day and it wasn't cooling down at night.

I spent that summer up to my elbows in hot water washing up in a police station canteen in Norfolk. It was a little too warm there too.

Posted by St. Gwladys (# 14504) on :

Re snow at Easter - we have a tradition amongst the local churches of going up onto Bargoed Mountain to Capel Gwladys - the site of a hermitage - for a "Son Rise" service on Easter morning. A few years ago, there was significant snow on the ground, which prompted one of the music group to write a song called "Throwing snowballs on Easter Day".

Posted by jacobsen (# 14998) on :

St.G. - could I have the music and words for that, please?

Posted by Piglet (# 11803) on :

Snow at Easter certainly isn't unknown here - in fact, it's rare for all the snow have melted by Easter, even when it's a late one.

Posted by Palimpsest (# 16772) on :

Boston still has a remnant of snow 12 feet high in the lot where they piled a lot of the 110 inches of snow they had this winter.
Many years ago in Cambridge, (Mass) they would cut blocks of ice out of the local fresh water pond and store them in straw in an ice house. Come summer they would ship them down to the West Indies and sell it to the locals for cold drinks.

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