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Posted by balaam (# 4543) on :
 
Catherine, Dutcess of Cambridge has given birth to a baby girl, but what would be a good name for the 4th in line to the British throne?

And why?
 
Posted by Schroedinger's cat (# 64) on :
 
Isn't there going to be a TV series organised by Simon Cowell, with all sort of names auditioned, and the winner selected after 3 months only to disappear into obscurity?

I do think Diana would be appropriate, but I think it is still too soon. Another generation and maybe.

While I would like to see them go for something unusual (Brooklyn maybe? Or Spare?), they will almost certainly go for the traditional names like Alice and Charlotte.
 
Posted by no prophet's flag is set so... (# 15560) on :
 
I'm going to go with "Audrey the carnivore" because the three word story suggested it to me.
 
Posted by Sandemaniac (# 12829) on :
 
I think something nice and Victorian would be good.

Like Fanny.

AG

(who spotted a Facebook post the other day that was "liked" by Fannie Tang [Snigger] )
 
Posted by L'organist (# 17338) on :
 
What about Eleanor? A good name and with historical precedent (Eleanor of Aquitaine, spouse of Henry II; Eleanor of Castile, wife of Edward I).

Then there's Matilda: wife of William the Conqueror; first wife of Henry I, plus Henry's daughter (mother of Henry II).

Charlotte might be thought to be unlucky, given what happened to Princess Charlotte, daughter of George IV.

I don't think anyone sensible imagines they'll choose Diana - it would be too great a burden to bear. But then again, there's always Chardonnay [Big Grin]

[ 02. May 2015, 18:25: Message edited by: L'organist ]
 
Posted by Doublethink. (# 1984) on :
 
Royal babies always get massive amounts of names, so I could see Diana being given as one of the middle names. It would be nice for them *not* to name her after someone for her first name. Personally I quite like Ruth for a girl.
 
Posted by Jane R (# 331) on :
 
Brunnhilde?
 
Posted by Leorning Cniht (# 17564) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doublethink.:
Royal babies always get massive amounts of names, so I could see Diana being given as one of the middle names.

Prince George only has three - this one won't get more. I'd agree that there are reasonable odds on Diana as a middle name, but no chance at all of a "Princess Diana". Elizabeth is the Duchess's middle name, and her mother's (as well as the Queen's name!), and has to be in the frame as a middle name.

Charlotte Elizabeth Diana? It's a possibility. I rather like l'Organist's Tilly, though.

Or there's always Boudicca. Or Sexburga.

[ 02. May 2015, 18:50: Message edited by: Leorning Cniht ]
 
Posted by Ariel (# 58) on :
 
Electra May
Zoe (one of the saints of the day)
Waldeberta
Willikate

Though Alice Victoria Elizabeth Rose would probably be more realistic.
 
Posted by Amanda B. Reckondwythe (# 5521) on :
 
Margaret Anne Elizabeth
 
Posted by Boogie (# 13538) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Amanda B. Reckondwythe:
Margaret Anne Elizabeth

I'd love it to be Margaret!

My name would make a comeback at long last - there have been no baby Margarets for at least 40 years!
 
Posted by Abigail (# 1672) on :
 
I think it's time for another Victoria. I'm going for Victoria Catherine Elizabeth.

Elizabeth's got to be in there somewhere but I don't think they'll choose that for the first name.

[ 02. May 2015, 19:32: Message edited by: Abigail ]
 
Posted by Japes (# 5358) on :
 
I think Victoria Elizabeth Alice for traditional names.

I do like Eleanor, though.
 
Posted by Ariel (# 58) on :
 
Margaret would be good, but they'll probably want to honour William's grandmother and go for Elizabeth rather than her sister Margaret. I could see it being given to a later child.

Nobody anywhere has suggested Carole as far as I know, though. Alix is in my mind as well - Alexandra could be a possibility.

PS I suppose Kettricken is out.

[ 02. May 2015, 19:44: Message edited by: Ariel ]
 
Posted by balaam (# 4543) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by L'organist:
Then there's Matilda: wife of William the Conqueror; first wife of Henry I, plus Henry's daughter (mother of Henry II).

The latter was a usurper of the throne in the reign of Stephen. That is not going to happen.
 
Posted by Schroedinger's cat (# 64) on :
 
I still think Cersi has to be in with a chance.....
 
Posted by Athrawes (# 9594) on :
 
Eilonwy, from The Book of Three. Now *there* was a princess!
 
Posted by tessaB (# 8533) on :
 
I'd love it to be Eleanor, if only to see the look on my daughter's face! (EleanorB, radical marxist/feminist!)
 
Posted by Piglet (# 11803) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Boogie:
... there have been no baby Margarets for at least 40 years!

The daughter of a couple in our congregation named her daughter Margaret some time in the last 10 years and I remember thinking at the time that she was something of a rarity.

I voted for Victoria, although I read somewhere yesterday that the odds on Olivia had been slashed quite drastically.

I also like the idea of Eleanor (D. has a niece called Eleanor) and it does have a nice medieval-queen ring to it.
 
Posted by Heavenly Anarchist (# 13313) on :
 
Margaret might be a little political whilst in the middle of an election.
I'm guessing Alice Diana Elizabeth, though I would like Eleanor.
 
Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :
 
Elizabeth is the perfect middle name, appearing as it does on both sides of the family.

My vote goes to Alice Elizabeth Diana.

Originally posted by L'organist:

quote:
What about Eleanor? A good name and with historical precedent (Eleanor of Aquitaine, spouse of Henry II; Eleanor of Castile, wife of Edward I).

Not to mention Nell Gwynne, who also features prominently in many an aristocratic bloodline.
 
Posted by Heavenly Anarchist (# 13313) on :
 
Matilda is quite a popular name now, I know several Tillys.
 
Posted by Ariel (# 58) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Piglet:
I also like the idea of Eleanor (D. has a niece called Eleanor) and it does have a nice medieval-queen ring to it.

Eleanor has precedent. I suggest reviving the splendid old royal names of Berengaria or Melisende.
 
Posted by Schroedinger's cat (# 64) on :
 
Apparently Elsa is also quite a popular name at the moment.
 
Posted by Firenze (# 619) on :
 
I notice a few recent trends in female names: 1. They have to be double-barrelled. 2. The second element has to be either 'Rose' or 'Leigh'. 3. The spelling must tax the outer limits of phonetic representation.

Hence the wean will be Leeza-Leigh Jayid.
 
Posted by Sipech (# 16870) on :
 
I'm rather in favour of Buttercup.

Really, though I think that Elizabeth and Diana will amongst the many middle names.
 
Posted by L'organist (# 17338) on :
 
Of course, they could give a nod to the Middleton side of the family and call the baby Philippa, which would also refer back to Philippa of Hainault, wife of Edward III.

So what about Princess Philippa Alice Elizabeth of Cambridge?
 
Posted by Pigwidgeon (# 10192) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by L'organist:
Of course, they could give a nod to the Middleton side of the family and call the baby Philippa, which would also refer back to Philippa of Hainault, wife of Edward III.

So what about Princess Philippa Alice Elizabeth of Cambridge?

Philippa would also be a nod to her great-grandfather.
 
Posted by Kitten (# 1179) on :
 
Phillipa would be an excellent name.

I also have a soft spot for Alelaide after the wife of William IV
 
Posted by Porridge (# 15405) on :
 
I'm a US citizen with zero dogs in this fight, but I would be very grateful if the name Diana could avoided for at least a generation.

I also hope they stick with something fairly traditional. The sheer number and range of weird names and weirder spellings currently encountered in job applicants I'm reviewing makes me wonder at allowing moms still possibly under the influence of medication from childbirth any voice at all in selecting names for their offspring.

Quayleighea L'Shonda Shardelle Maddisonne, anyone?
 
Posted by L'organist (# 17338) on :
 
As you said, Porridge, you come from the USA.

I once had a letter from there on paper headed (printed, not engraved) from the desk of....

Naturally I wrote back "Dear Desk..." [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Sioni Sais (# 5713) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Porridge:


Quayleighea L'Shonda Shardelle Maddisonne, anyone?

If the poor mite wants a life on the Jeremy Kyle and Jerry Springer shows, that will be perfect.
 
Posted by balaam (# 4543) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Porridge:
The sheer number and range of weird names and weirder spellings currently encountered in job applicants I'm reviewing makes me wonder at allowing moms still possibly under the influence of medication from childbirth any voice at all in selecting names for their offspring.

You have met someone called Ow?

Sorry, that one would have been no medication.
 
Posted by Meike (# 3006) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by balaam:
You have met someone called Ow?

Sorry, that one would have been no medication.

[Killing me] I hope you don't mind that I quoted it here.
 
Posted by Ariel (# 58) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Firenze:
I notice a few recent trends in female names: 1. They have to be double-barrelled. 2. The second element has to be either 'Rose' or 'Leigh'. 3. The spelling must tax the outer limits of phonetic representation.

How about Tee-Jay Roseleigh?

(I do hate the "Leigh" spelling. It looks so ponderous. Make that Tee-Jay Roseley, she is a princess after all.)
 
Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :
 
I see Alexandra is one suggestion. Alex Salmond said tonight that he would be delighted if the named the bairn after him. Although he also said that he thought Princess Nicola had a nice ring to it.
 
Posted by Firenze (# 619) on :
 
I suppose they could have a go at wooing the Scots back into the Union - Princess Senga Mergit Hamishina.
 
Posted by Full Circle (# 15398) on :
 
Francis as a middle name. It was Diana's middle name and, I think, Catherine's mothers. I'd go for Sophia Elisabeth Francis but mostly because I like the name Sophie
 
Posted by Ariel (# 58) on :
 
Prince Edward is married to a Sophie so that might not be William and Kate's first option for name choice.

quote:
Originally posted by North East Quine:
I see Alexandra is one suggestion. Alex Salmond said tonight that he would be delighted if they named the bairn after him.

Salmondine Elizabeth Rose?

[ 03. May 2015, 20:54: Message edited by: Ariel ]
 
Posted by Athrawes (# 9594) on :
 
I really hope they stay away from Diana. Given the state of the media, that would be a huge burden for the poor child. Imagine being compared to your (in the media's eyes) Sainted grandmother every time you moved. And heaven help the poor thing if she isn't a beauty...
 
Posted by Lyda*Rose (# 4544) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by balaam:
quote:
Originally posted by L'organist:
Then there's Matilda: wife of William the Conqueror; first wife of Henry I, plus Henry's daughter (mother of Henry II).

The latter was a usurper of the throne in the reign of Stephen. That is not going to happen.
Ahem. Depends on how you look at history. I'd say Stephen usurped her throne.

Anyway, back to the subject at hand, I voted for Alexandra. It can work as regal Alexandra or tomboyish/party girl Alex. Elizabeth should be a middle name. And I'll be magnanimous and let the Cambridges choose the final name. [Biased]
 
Posted by Pigwidgeon (# 10192) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Full Circle:
Francis as a middle name. It was Diana's middle name and, I think, Catherine's mothers. I'd go for Sophia Elisabeth Francis but mostly because I like the name Sophie

"Francis" is the male name, "Frances" the female. Unless, of course, they want to name her after the Pope...
 
Posted by Full Circle (# 15398) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Pigwidgeon:
quote:
Originally posted by Full Circle:
Francis as a middle name. It was Diana's middle name and, I think, Catherine's mothers. I'd go for Sophia Elisabeth Francis but mostly because I like the name Sophie

"Francis" is the male name, "Frances" the female. Unless, of course, they want to name her after the Pope...
My error, but what a wonderful link!
 
Posted by Sarasa (# 12271) on :
 
I think Elizabeth and Diana as middle names are possibilites. I wondered about Frances too, but I'm going for Mary, shortened to May. Extremely unlikely, and probably a bit too 'Catholic' for the royal family.
If I was them I'd be steering away from Alice, Charlotte or any other name that bookmakers have odds on.
 
Posted by Golden Key (# 1468) on :
 
For some reason, I've been thinking some combination of

Agnes Cla(i)re Emma(line)

First two are saints. Dunno if there's a St. Emma.
 
Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :
 
Charlotte Elizabeth Diana

I got the middle names right!
 
Posted by Japes (# 5358) on :
 
1 out of 3 isn't bad...
 
Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Leorning Cniht:
quote:
Originally posted by Doublethink.:
Royal babies always get massive amounts of names, so I could see Diana being given as one of the middle names.

Prince George only has three - this one won't get more. I'd agree that there are reasonable odds on Diana as a middle name, but no chance at all of a "Princess Diana". Elizabeth is the Duchess's middle name, and her mother's (as well as the Queen's name!), and has to be in the frame as a middle name.

Charlotte Elizabeth Diana? It's a possibility.

Leorning Cniht called it.
[Overused]
 
Posted by Schroedinger's cat (# 64) on :
 
I got the first name right, which is all I was after. She is still Lottie the spare to me though.
 
Posted by leo (# 1458) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by L'organist:
Charlotte might be thought to be unlucky, given what happened to Princess Charlotte, daughter of George IV.

It will be when we stick Queen Charlie in a council house.
 
Posted by balaam (# 4543) on :
 
Buckingham Palace is a council house.
 
Posted by balaam (# 4543) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by leo:
quote:
Originally posted by L'organist:
Charlotte might be thought to be unlucky, given what happened to Princess Charlotte, daughter of George IV.

It will be when we stick Queen Charlie in a council house.
Buckingham Palace is a council house.

(Because of the new page.)
 
Posted by Schroedinger's cat (# 64) on :
 
What is more, Charlotte is actually very unlikely to ever become Queen. She will be usurped by Georges children, and only ever get onto the throne if George has no children.
 
Posted by North East Quine (# 13049) on :
 
There was a thing in late C18th Scotland (and I assume in England too) to have paired streets named George Street and Charlotte Street, after George III and Queen Charlotte. In Edinburgh, George Street ends at Charlotte Square, in Aberdeen George Street and Charlotte Street run parallel, in Perth George Street runs into Charlotte Street etc etc.

Anyone know of other George / Charlotte street pairings?
 
Posted by Ariel (# 58) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by North East Quine:
Charlotte Elizabeth Diana

I wonder what Kate would have called her, had she not been a royal baby.

Well, good luck little Charlotte, and I hope you and your brother George become the best of friends.
 
Posted by Kitten (# 1179) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Schroedinger's cat:
What is more, Charlotte is actually very unlikely to ever become Queen. She will be usurped by Georges children, and only ever get onto the throne if George has no children.

And even if by some chance she did, she might not choose to use Charlotte as her Regnal name

Edited because autocorrect changed Regnal to Reginald

[ 04. May 2015, 18:27: Message edited by: Kitten ]
 
Posted by leo (# 1458) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by balaam:
Buckingham Palace is a council house.

So do they have the right to buy? (Thather et al)
 
Posted by Sioni Sais (# 5713) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by leo:
quote:
Originally posted by balaam:
Buckingham Palace is a council house.

So do they have the right to buy? (Thather et al)
With all those unoccupied rooms the Bedroom Tax bill could be substantial!
 
Posted by leo (# 1458) on :
 
They're occupied by servants - take it out of their wages in lieu or rent.
 
Posted by Leorning Cniht (# 17564) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Kitten:
And even if by some chance she did, she might not choose to use Charlotte as her Regnal name

Edited because autocorrect changed Regnal to Reginald

I'm pretty sure she shouldn't call herself Queen Reginald...
 
Posted by Schroedinger's cat (# 64) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Leorning Cniht:
quote:
Originally posted by Kitten:
And even if by some chance she did, she might not choose to use Charlotte as her Regnal name

Edited because autocorrect changed Regnal to Reginald

I'm pretty sure she shouldn't call herself Queen Reginald...
It is several decades in the future, so by then, who knows? The first transgender monarch?
 
Posted by L'organist (# 17338) on :
 
Buckingham Palace isn't a council house, its a tied cottage, same as a vicarage or rectory in that it goes with the job, can't be sold by the incumbent, and has to be occupied regardless of the personal feelings of the post-holder.
 
Posted by Sir Kevin (# 3492) on :
 
Got it in one with Charlotte!
 


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