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Matrix
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Conference News
So, the Church and Media Conference have decided to invite Katie Hopkins (she of the poisonous tweets and columns).
Publicity stunt? Barrel scraping? An ignoring of the advice not to feed the troll, and instead making her the guest of honour?
What do we think?
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SvitlanaV2
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They must have a lot of money to pay the speakers! Where does the money come from? The Church or the Media?
Anyway, I understand that Ms Hopkins went to a convent school as a girl. One wouldn't guess that she'd have much use for religion in her adult life, but you never know.
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I'm almost becoming sorry for her. Despite an expensive education, high intelligence and notable talent her personal life has been disastrous since she achieved fame and her business career has gone the same way. Rent-a-mouth is just about all she has left.
I fear this will just be another pedestal for her to fall off.
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Enoch
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Is she 'them' or 'us'?
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"Hey, Hillsong invited Mike Driscoll, what can we do that is even more stupid than that?"
"Well...."
Publicity stunt. They are hoping that people will be shocked and so come and see why some parts of the church have so little sense.
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Good to see you back, Matrix!
When I see, in addition to this invitation, that the early bird tickets for this event cost £70, it confirms my theory that so, so much of what passes for christianity these days, especially the loudest and most-reported bits, is thoroughly intertwined with the nastiest kind of business interest.
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Matrix
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Originally posted by Eutychus:
Good to see you back, Matrix!
I've just been very very quiet...
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Head Hellwards this away for rants re Ms Hopkins.
But there is certainly some scope here for some serious Purgatorial critiquing of these kinds of invitations to conferences with some serious religious intent.
I suppose the thread could simply turn into another rant, but I'm inclined to let you all have at it in Purg, certainly for a while!
And I add my welcome back to Matrix!
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SvitlanaV2
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Originally posted by Eutychus:
When I see, in addition to this invitation, that the early bird tickets for this event cost £70, it confirms my theory that so, so much of what passes for christianity these days, especially the loudest and most-reported bits, is thoroughly intertwined with the nastiest kind of business interest.
As I said, it can't be cheap to hire TV celebs to talk at conferences. How can you hold a 'Church and Media Conference' if you can't afford to pay the famous names in the media?
The event is probably meant for Christians who earn good media salaries rather than Christians in general who are just curious about what TV celeb Ms Hopkins' religious beliefs might be. Or, indeed, anyone who just wants a chance to see a controversial celeb in the flesh, regardless of the 'Church' aspect.
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Eutychus
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quote:
Originally posted by Barnabas62:
there is certainly some scope here for some serious Purgatorial critiquing of these kinds of invitations to conferences with some serious religious intent.
Absolutely.
To expland a little on what I said, I think that increasingly large swathes* of the Christian media and events industry (encompassing publishing, conferences and so on) ask themselves "what's going to bring in money?" and "what's controversial?" (see point 1, plus will generate "media buzz" and thus "brand awareness"). People are entertained rather than provoked to thought, and the problem is, this is a good business model, so the players behind it get more attention, more market share, and so it goes on.
Another policy is to use such tactics to subsidise more thoughtful and less remunerative initiatives being conducted by the same business, but I'm concerned that once you've sold your soul in this way, it's hard to recover.
I'm certain that the Kingdom of God doesn't come in ways that are striking (see Luke 17:20).
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*Except for the corners that occasionally publish pieces by me, of course ![[Hot and Hormonal]](icon_redface.gif)
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This is enough to put me off from attending any Church and Media Conference, ever, were I in those circles.
£70 a ticket indeed! And to watch the likes of Katie Hopkins.
NO. THANK. YOU.
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Has anyone noticed that the page on the website to which the OP links could quite easily be a page from Private Eye? Is there anything on it, that if it were in Private Eye wouldn't read as satire.
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Originally posted by mr cheesy:
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Originally posted by Laurelin:
This is enough to put me off from attending any Church and Media Conference, ever, were I in those circles.
But if you were in those circles you'd be fascinated, from a professional point of view, by Katie's ongoing fame and appeal. For them it's probably very little to do with liking her or not liking her as a person.
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There is a defence of her invitation on the Christian Today website. It strikes me as a somewhat naive position. I can't help thinking that the primary motive for inviting Ms Hopkins is the hope that she'll say something outrageous, so that people can be suitably shocked.
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On the other hand, is Katie Hopkins likely to be a less malign voice as a result of thoughtful Christian interaction? Just maybe...
That's just pathetic.
(Isn't the Christian Today website pretty awful? Even Ruth Gledhill looks poor)
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It starts with a statement of opinion expressed as a fact, which it isn't.
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Katie Hopkins is a major media figure.
And nor is she.
She is a minor to possibly lower mid-range one.
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SvitlanaV2
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quote:
Originally posted by Enoch:
It starts with a statement of opinion expressed as a fact, which it isn't.
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Katie Hopkins is a major media figure.
And nor is she.
She is a minor to possibly lower mid-range one.
Her star is definitely in the ascendant, though. We know who she is.
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Originally posted by Oscar the Grouch:
There is a defence of her invitation on the Christian Today website. It strikes me as a somewhat naive position. I can't help thinking that the primary motive for inviting Ms Hopkins is the hope that she'll say something outrageous, so that people can be suitably shocked.
As for this: quote:
On the other hand, is Katie Hopkins likely to be a less malign voice as a result of thoughtful Christian interaction? Just maybe...
That's just pathetic.
(Isn't the Christian Today website pretty awful? Even Ruth Gledhill looks poor)
Seeing as she went to EdgehIll School in Bideford (an Independent Girls' School run by the Methodist Church), I'll be intrigued to hear what aspects of faith moved her or annoyed her.
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Originally posted by SvitlanaV2:
Her star is definitely in the ascendant, though. We know who she is.
Not really, she's just found a niche as a borderline racist motormouth (to Ann Coulter as Jeremy Kyle is to Jerry Springer)
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