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Posted by Off Centre View (# 4254) on
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The summer movie blockbuster season is upon us again - have you seen any movies you've either particularly enjoyed or disliked? Are you planning to go see something you're particularly excited by (maybe even a smaller scale film)?
* 've been to see a couple of films recently, including Iron Man 3 (fun with an amusing twist, but kind of forgettable)and Star Trek Into Darkness (very entertaining popcorn movie, but felt like the build-up to something more rather than complete in itself). * 'm next hoping to see the new Superman film, Man of Steel, which * hope will be a lot better than the very weird Superman Returns.
What are you watching at the movies?
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Posted by Pine Marten (# 11068) on
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On Monday Mr Marten and I went to see Behind the Candelabra, which I enjoyed very much. Both Michael Douglas and Matt Damon were excellent, the costumes and sets were fabulous, and it actually was quite a moving love story.
I remember seeing Liberace on the TV quite a lot as my mum was a fan!
Posted by Twilight (# 2832) on
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Oh, oh, I can't wait to see that, Pine Marten!
A friend and I went to see Gatsby and loved it in spite of a few irritating liberties taken with the novel. I'm glad we saw it at the movies and didn't wait for the DVD. Big powerful stories deserve the big screen. I'm sure Liberace does, too.
Posted by Heavenly Anarchist (# 13313) on
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My last two cinema trips were to see the early Doctor Who films during half term, they were accompanied by lectures on Daleks (given by a close friend) and it was very enjoyable to revisit the wobbly sets/hand drawn scenery/blatant sexism/Julian Clary lookalikes etc.
The Liberace film is definitely on top of my to do list, it sounds wonderful
Posted by Taliesin (# 14017) on
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Has anyone seen the will Smith and son movie, after earth ?
The critics are slating it, but I just want to enjoy the CGI.
Posted by Pigwidgeon (# 10192) on
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Joss Whedon's 'Much Ado about Nothing'* opens next week. Our local Shakespeare company is hosting a special first-night showing.I'm looking forward to attending.
(*Yes, I know it's William Shakespeare's and that Joss Whedon is just the director!)
Posted by Palimpsest (# 16772) on
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I've just finished seeing 40 movies at the Seattle Film Festival.
Much Ado About Nothing was good, although it really gets moving when the physical comedy starts. Be prepared for American accents.
20 feet from Stardom profiles the Black Backup Singers who have sung with The Rolling Stones, Lou Reed, Elton John. It gives you a new perspective on songs you've heard so often that they are elevator music.
Five Dances is a dance rehearsal film about a gay 18 year old dancer trying to make it in New York City. The lead is an amazing dancer.
The Bling Ring is a fictional account of a group of Los Angeles teenagers who started a robbery spree targeting their favorite celebrities like Paris Hilton. Drugs, Shoes and mindlessness.
BlackFish is an alarming documentary about psychotic orcas held at Sea World theme parks.
Populaire is a French comedy version of Pygmalion about a speed typist in 1958.
Frances Ha! is a new Noah Baumbach comedy about a dancer in New York City who is failing to survive as her friends become successful. It's a weird cross of King Of Hearts and Woody Allen Comedies
Key of Life is a Japanese comedy about a failing actor who ends up exchanging lives with a mob hit man.
Putzel is a comedy about a New York Lox seller who can't leave the upper West Side, before he meets the right girl.
Posted by Gill H (# 68) on
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I found Behind the Candelabra thought-provoking and terribly sad. The performances are wonderful.
Don't eat before you go, though. They don't warn you about some rather icky plastic surgery scenes.
Posted by Sir Kevin (# 3492) on
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We've seen the blockbusters, but the last film we saw was Peeples , a small comedy produced by Tyler Perry. It was at a second-run house and we were the only ones in the cinema Monday afternoon. It was our anniversary and we wanted something to do before dinner when we both had the day off. It was nice to see some old friends like Melvin van Peebles, David Alan Grier, S. Epatha Merkerson and Diahann Carroll in character roles. It was much better than Meet the Fokkers which may have inspired it.
Posted by Pigwidgeon (# 10192) on
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Originally posted by Palimpsest:
Much Ado About Nothing was good, although it really gets moving when the physical comedy starts. Be prepared for American accents.
It's an American film with American actors -- what were you expecting?
(P.S. I speak with an American accent myself having lived in the U.S. all my life.)
Posted by Hedgehog (# 14125) on
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Originally posted by Pigwidgeon:
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Originally posted by Palimpsest:
Much Ado About Nothing was good, although it really gets moving when the physical comedy starts. Be prepared for American accents.
It's an American film with American actors -- what were you expecting?
Possibly the worst of all possible worlds: American actors pretending to do an English accent a la Dick Van Dyke. :shudder:
Posted by Palimpsest (# 16772) on
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Originally posted by Pigwidgeon:
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Originally posted by Palimpsest:
Much Ado About Nothing was good, although it really gets moving when the physical comedy starts. Be prepared for American accents.
It's an American film with American actors -- what were you expecting?
(P.S. I speak with an American accent myself having lived in the U.S. all my life.)
I'm an American as well. Many Shakespeare films use British actors or American Actors who can do British accents. The Director talked about the conscious choice of using an American accent.
Posted by Jack the Lass (# 3415) on
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The last film we saw was called "We Are Northern Lights". Last year, as part of 2012 Year of Creative Scotland, the directors invited people to make a short video (or more than one) about their daily life in Scotland. They had over a thousand submissions, of which 121 made the final cut. It ranges from musings on a dying way of life in the islands to a city boy at T in the Park. It was funny, sad, moving, uplifting, tubthumping, thought-provoking - I loved it.
Posted by Twilight (# 2832) on
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Originally posted by Hedgehog:
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Originally posted by Pigwidgeon:
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Originally posted by Palimpsest:
Much Ado About Nothing was good, although it really gets moving when the physical comedy starts. Be prepared for American accents.
It's an American film with American actors -- what were you expecting?
Possibly the worst of all possible worlds: American actors pretending to do an English accent a la Dick Van Dyke. :shudder:
Americans see British actors doing American accents every day, in movies and all over our prime time TV. It might be time to get over Dick Van Dyke doing a cockney accent in "Mary Poppins." It's been half a century.
Posted by deano (# 12063) on
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Originally posted by Twilight:
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Originally posted by Hedgehog:
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Originally posted by Pigwidgeon:
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Originally posted by Palimpsest:
Much Ado About Nothing was good, although it really gets moving when the physical comedy starts. Be prepared for American accents.
It's an American film with American actors -- what were you expecting?
Possibly the worst of all possible worlds: American actors pretending to do an English accent a la Dick Van Dyke. :shudder:
Americans see British actors doing American accents every day, in movies and all over our prime time TV. It might be time to get over Dick Van Dyke doing a cockney accent in "Mary Poppins." It's been half a century.
Yeah, but our actors are better. Sorry.
Anyhoo, I think old Willy Shakespeare’s plays contain messages that are universal, so if Americans do a version of one of his plays and it’s good enough to stand up there with the best then fine. If Russians, Chinese, Indian or Tanzanians do a version of one of his plays is good enough to stand up there with the best then that is also fine.
Shakespeare can be performed anywhere, not just in the Globe Theatre. If old Willy were alive today he’d be in Hollywood writing the next Arnie, Sly, and Bruce blockbuster, but it would be better than blockbusters being written nowadays.
Posted by Palimpsest (# 16772) on
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Originally posted by deano:
Anyhoo, I think old Willy Shakespeare’s plays contain messages that are universal, so if Americans do a version of one of his plays and it’s good enough to stand up there with the best then fine. If Russians, Chinese, Indian or Tanzanians do a version of one of his plays is good enough to stand up there with the best then that is also fine.
Shakespeare can be performed anywhere, not just in the Globe Theatre. If old Willy were alive today he’d be in Hollywood writing the next Arnie, Sly, and Bruce blockbuster, but it would be better than blockbusters being written nowadays.
I found the Wheedon film version a successful transition to a Los Angeles power structure.
There are times however when Shakespeare is not always universal. Shakespeare in the Bush
Posted by Porridge (# 15405) on
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Originally posted by deano:
Yeah, but our actors are better. Sorry.
Bull. British actors get actual training.
In the U.S., we hunt for photogenic people, and then, after we find them. hope they can act.
Besides, British actors do so much more than Shakespeare. Have you ever watched Hugh Laurie on House? I defy you to tell he's a Brit from his speech.
Posted by Stetson (# 9597) on
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Originally posted by Taliesin:
Has anyone seen the will Smith and son movie, after earth ?
The critics are slating it, but I just want to enjoy the CGI.
At the risk of sounding bombastic, there was a time when I thought M. Night Shyamalan was re-inventing the horror film. Not that I was a HUGE fan(I'm rarely tempted to watch his movies more than once), but he really did seem to be fashioning his own unique vision, as opposed to the constant onslaught of formulaic slashers and Ring-wannabes that have been overrunning the genre lately.
But there was nothing particularly innovative or insightful about After Earth. CGI-driven action/adventure piece, with a hackneyed Father Challenges Son theme.
I don't know if his downward trajectory started with The Last Airbender, because I haven't watched it. I know a lot of people didn't like Lady In The Water, but I thought it was cute and clever enough.
Posted by Ariel (# 58) on
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Originally posted by Palimpsest:
There are times however when Shakespeare is not always universal. Shakespeare in the Bush
That was fascinating, thanks for that link!
Posted by Off Centre View (# 4254) on
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Went to see Man of Steel last night. Really enjoyed it, found it fresh and exciting. I think that it's more a very good science fiction film that becomes a superhero film toward the end - it's a bit like Batman Begins for Superman in that a lot of the elements (but not all) we associate with an iconic character fall into
place toward the end of the movie.
It definitely isn't my dad's Superman, and there is a pretty controversial decision toward the end, but I found it thrilling and am looking forward to the now inevitable sequence. If you are looking for the campy 1970s Superman you'll be disappointed, but if you're looking for a fresh spin on a familiar superhero I can't recommend it enough.
Posted by leo (# 1458) on
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A Serious Man by the Coen Brothers. Thoroughly Jewish - a man in midlife suffers a whole load of crises and seeks help from various rabbis, all of whom are useless.
Posted by Pigwidgeon (# 10192) on
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On Thursday I'm going to a (free!) screening of LOVE FREE OR DIE about Bishop Gene Robinson.
Posted by Sir Kevin (# 3492) on
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Not our choice!
I think we'll see Man of Steel when it's been out for awhile - maybe see it at the second-run movie theatre not far from the house.
Posted by Meerkat (# 16117) on
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Just got back home from seeing 'Man of Steel'. Not quite sure how I would rate it. You should not compare it with the earlier Superman films, because it is different.
The effects were pretty amazing (but nowadays, they mostly are!). The storyline was a little different, but not so much so that it confused. IMO, the choice of cast worked well. The downside for me was the amount of explosions / destruction of things, but that is how the film industry does it nowadays.
Would I recommend it? To those of you who like the Superman genre... yes!
Posted by leo (# 1458) on
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A film simply called 'F'.
The basic story is of a school teacher who is assaulted a pupil, not backed up by the school's 'leadership team, who needs to a drink a bottle of whiskey before he can face a class again. he loses it.
That is true to experience - I speak as a trade union rep. who has had to deal with such cases.
Then it morphs into a horror film with marauding pupils going about killing teachers.
Somnewhat ridiculous from this point on.
Posted by ArachnidinElmet (# 17346) on
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A film simply called 'F'...
Gah. I meant to watch that, but turned over half way through. One for the list.
Posted by Oscar P. (# 10412) on
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It's a bit late, but finally had the chance to see "42" this week and really enjoyed it. It tells the story of Jackie Robinson who became the first African-American player in Major League Baseball when he joined the Brooklyn Dodgers in 1947. If you are a baseball fan as I am (go St. Louis Cardinals!) it should be on your must-see list.
Posted by JoannaP (# 4493) on
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BFI is having a 2-month Werner Herzog season; we saw Aguirre, Anger of God last week-end and Heart of Glass today. Not having seen much of his work before - and that more recent documentaries - I am somewhat stunned. They were amazing films, fantastic visually which more than compensated for the lack of a straightforward narrative.
Posted by Palimpsest (# 16772) on
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I saw the British National Theater Live encore of Helen Mirren as the Queen in the Audience.
It was funny and she was fabulous.
Posted by Pigwidgeon (# 10192) on
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Originally posted by Palimpsest:
I saw the British National Theater Live encore of Helen Mirren as the Queen in the Audience.
It was funny and she was fabulous.
Me too! That woman is amazing.
Posted by QLib (# 43) on
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I saw The Great Gatsby a few evenings back and thought it was terrific - far better than the 1974 version. I don't know the book all that well, so didn't really spot any of the liberties that have supposedly been taken, other than that I think they add a few details to Nick Carraway's character. I felt not enough was made of Jordan Baker, and am inclined to think that the splendid Carey Mulligan created a Daisy who was a little too sympathetic, but perhaps that was intentional.
Some of my companions were unhappy about the use of twenty-first century music in some scenes, but it worked for me.
Posted by jedijudy (# 333) on
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I heard Helen Mirren, thanks to being treated to a movie by Daughter-Unit! She voiced Dean Hardscrabble in "Monsters University". It was a cute animated movie. It also had a lesson attached for youngsters, demonstrating hard work as a hopeful route to achieving one's dream.
"Monsters University" was a nice way to spend an afternoon, especially in the company of my beloved D-U!
Posted by Pine Marten (# 11068) on
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Originally posted by Pigwidgeon:
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Originally posted by Palimpsest:
I saw the British National Theater Live encore of Helen Mirren as the Queen in the Audience.
It was funny and she was fabulous.
Me too! That woman is amazing.
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I still remember with pleasure seeing Helen Mirren play a wondrously voluptuous Cleopatra with the National Youth Theatre when she was all of - ooh - 20?
. About 4 years later I saw her play Castiza in The Revenger's Tragedy in Stratford...she is definitely lovely!
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Posted by LeRoc (# 3216) on
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I don't get to watch many films, but the last one we saw was Die Farbe des Ozeans (Color of the Ocean) by Maggie Peren, about a German tourist on the Canary Islands who is confronted with a boat of almost dying refugees coming from the African coast.
Parts of the story were a bit simplistic, but some of the characters in the film present an interesting mix-up of good and bad within them.
Posted by Sir Kevin (# 3492) on
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Originally posted by Pine Marten:
I still remember with pleasure seeing Helen Mirren play a wondrously voluptuous Cleopatra with the National Youth Theatre when she was all of - ooh - 20?
. About 4 years later I saw her play Castiza in The Revenger's Tragedy in Stratford...she is definitely lovely!
Dame Helen is one smashing middle-aged lady! She beautifies everything I've ever seen her in including Calendar Girls.
Posted by Stetson (# 9597) on
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I watched Killer Joe, about a horrible family in Texas doing horrible things.
Normally, I really hate films that ostentatiously wallow in the depravity they portray, especially when they try to justify it with pseudo-philosophizing and ham-fisted moralizing(the wretchedly pretentious Funny Games being just one recent example).
Okay okay, we get it, violence is everywhere, we're all sadistic voyeurs, blah blah blah.
But Killer Joe, despite having a plotline that managed to out-vile almost any other entry in the genre, somehow avoided those pitfalls. Probably because it eschewed the sophmoric intellectualism, and instead just contented itself with telling a repulsive tale of repulsive characters, without taking itself all that seriously. It maintains a rather farcical spirit throughout.
Based on a play by Tracy Letts, who also penned William Friedkin's last outing, Bug(Killer Joe is better). I'm also wondering if this will be the last film directed by Friedkin, who never quite revisited the artisitic or critical heights of The Exorcist.
Posted by Stetson (# 9597) on
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Originally posted by leo:
A film simply called 'F'.
The basic story is of a school teacher who is assaulted a pupil, not backed up by the school's 'leadership team, who needs to a drink a bottle of whiskey before he can face a class again. he loses it.
That is true to experience - I speak as a trade union rep. who has had to deal with such cases.
Then it morphs into a horror film with marauding pupils going about killing teachers.
Somnewhat ridiculous from this point on.
One thing I've noticed in thrillers lately is that the writers seem to be using serial-killer motifs, lifted from Silence Of The Lambs, Se7en etc, as a substitute for original plot developemnt.
For example, The Flock(starring Richard Gere) starts off being a moderately interesting character study of a guy who monitors sex offendors, but ends up positing a shadowy, cross-country netword of sex offendors who live together in sex dungeons and communicate via sex magazines.
And The Call, which I watched a few weeks back, starts off as a fairly competent car-chase flick, until the kidnapper gets his victim to his dungeon, at which point we are "treated" to a clean-lift of Buffalo Bill in SOTL.
Posted by CuppaT (# 10523) on
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We watched Yankee Doodle Dandy today. We do nearly every 4th of July.
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on
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The night before last I gave myself a re-run of The Rocky Horror Picture Show which was just as fab as ever. Great movie worth more than the 7.2/10 awarded by IMDb.
Has anyone here ever seen Shock Treatment, the sequel to RHPS? I've only heard of it recently and am not at all sure...
Posted by JoannaP (# 4493) on
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Originally posted by Welease Woderwick:
Has anyone here ever seen Shock Treatment, the sequel to RHPS? I've only heard of it recently and am not at all sure...
Mr P says that it is dreadful. Apparently it was a first draft but the studio refused to wait for the finished script so just filmed it.
Posted by JoannaP (# 4493) on
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Originally posted by Welease Woderwick:
Has anyone here ever seen Shock Treatment, the sequel to RHPS? I've only heard of it recently and am not at all sure...
Mr P says that it is dreadful. Apparently it was a first draft but the studio refused to wait for the finished script so just filmed it.
I have been told to add that it is a waste of an amazing cast; Barry Humpries runs amok and steals the show in the process.
Posted by Amanda B. Reckondwythe (# 5521) on
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I recall seeing it. It was universally panned by critics. The only thing I remember is that Mr. and Mrs. Ralph Hapschatt (the newlyweds from the opening scene of RHPS) are now divorced. It can't have made much of an impression on me being that I don't remember anything else about it.
Posted by Palimpsest (# 16772) on
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Originally posted by Stetson:
I watched Killer Joe, about a horrible family in Texas doing horrible things.
Based on a play by Tracy Letts, who also penned William Friedkin's last outing, Bug(Killer Joe is better). I'm also wondering if this will be the last film directed by Friedkin, who never quite revisited the artisitic or critical heights of The Exorcist.
I saw "Killer Joe" last year at the Seattle Film Festival. Friedkin gave a talk after the film. He didn't seem to have any plans to slow down the movie making.
Posted by Palimpsest (# 16772) on
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I just read "Sleepless in Hollywood" a book about making movies in Hollywood by the producer of "Sleepless in Seattle".
Some interesting facts along with some flattery of the film moguls.
DVD revenues have basically gone away leaving the studios unable to predict how much money films will make. The replacement is global sales, which make 95% of the film revenue. However the global market wants special effects and explosions and limited dialog. So blockbusters tend to be of the explosive chase type.
There's an insatiable demand for 3D outside the US where it's peaked. So they make 2D for domestic and 3D for international release. The Chinese quota on summer blockbusters requires them to be 3D.
A lot of film people have migrated to TV.
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on
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A phone call this morning then a cycle into town to the couriers to collect Annie Hall and All About Eve - now debating which one to watch tonight.
Decisions, decisions.
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on
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All About Eve - first time I've watched it for 40[/] years - I'd completely forgotten how brilliant it is.
Great Movie!
But then Bette Davis rarely gave a poor performance!
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on
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West Side Story arrived eventually and I found it quite dated and deserving of a sensitive remake possibly on a larger scale and with wider camera angles - it is very much early Mirisch.
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on
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Well La-di-da, what can I possibly say about Woody Allen's Annie Hall? It was brilliant when it first came out in 1977 and 36 years later it is still brilliant!
Is it his greatest movie? I don't think I'm qualified to judge but it is amazingly good and - La-di-da - it has the amazing Diane Keaton as well.
I wonder if Keaton is as ditsy in her real life as she always appears in reel life.
Tonight I might revisit Midnight in Paris.
Posted by leo (# 1458) on
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The Burmese Harp - black and white, made in 1954, a classic pacifist meditation on the futility of war and its cost of human lives.
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Posted by Eigon (# 4917) on
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I always watch a lot of films when I go to see my Young Man.
This time, we went out to the cinema to see Despicable Me 2 - which was great fun (I love the Minions).
At home, we watched Watchmen, which was a rather sobering experience, looking at a world where superheroes are not automatically the good guys - the Comedian was scary (I liked Nite Owl, though, and the Owl ship was fun). The ending was unexpected....
We followed that up with The Dark Knight Rises, and another superhero having doubts about what he was doing. My opinion of Commissioner Gordon went up in this one - he was very brave in an understated way.
Then there was Cloud Atlas. I think I'm going to have to read the book now. And watch the film again. (I think I understood what was going on....). Halle Berry was brilliant, though, and so was Hugo Weaving as Nurse Noakes!
Finally we hugely enjoyed Going Postal, the third Discworld film. There were such a lot of good actors in this one, and seeing Charles Dance as Lord Vetinari - well, it's clear where he got his portrayal of Tywin Lannister from!
Posted by Sir Kevin (# 3492) on
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I wonder if Keaton is as ditsy in her real life as she always appears in reel life.
Dunno, but she still looks good naked and can still act as seen in a recent film.
Posted by Tukai (# 12960) on
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Here in Fiji, with 35% of the population of Indian descent, Bollywood supplies half the films on offer. It's a taste I have acquired over the years - as perhaps has host WW. The films are much easier to follow now that (as shown here) they have English subtitles, especially as the girls all look pretty, but in the same way - all have 'fair skin', black hair, brown eyes, and healthily curvaceous body. But you have to move fast to catch a particular one, as the usual run at the cinema is precisely one week. As with Hollywood, Paris, Hong Kong, etc, quality is variable.
However the recent blockbuster "Chennai Express" lived up to its billing as "entertaining". Starring male hearthrob Shah Rukh Khan and Deepika Padhukone as the female lead, it was basically a romance/ comedy, but also included pantomime villains, a car chase, several song and dance routines, and even a fight scene (for the hero to win the girl).
I can also recommend "The Dirty Picture" (which is not one of those, but is about the rise and fall of a female film star). Vidya Balan (almost certainly the best actress in Bollywood, though perhaps less classically beautiful than some) carries this serious film. Well worth a look if you're into 'feminist' films, as its theme is the power structure that pulls her in and then spits her out.
Posted by Avila (# 15541) on
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Originally posted by jedijudy:
I heard Helen Mirren, thanks to being treated to a movie by Daughter-Unit! She voiced Dean Hardscrabble in "Monsters University". It was a cute animated movie. It also had a lesson attached for youngsters, demonstrating hard work as a hopeful route to achieving one's dream.
"Monsters University" was a nice way to spend an afternoon, especially in the company of my beloved D-U!
I went to see Monsters university this week when it arrived in our rural town - without cover of a small person.
I saw a very different lesson about valuing who you are, and your own particular gifts, even in the face of dismissal and/or bullying from others. And was pleased that they missed the too obvious ending showing a vocational as well as academic option (even if just in the fast forward at the end)
Posted by ArachnidinElmet (# 17346) on
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Re: Indian films. There was a run not that long since of non-Bollywood type Indian films of all vintages on UK Channel 4. Some great films, and a good reminder that not all films made in India have to be musicals. I've still got Nayak, a version of Strangers on a Train sat on my DVR awaiting some attention.
I was watching Dangerous Liasons last night. I'd forgotten that Peter Capaldi was in it (as Valmont's man servant). That man gets everywhere.
Posted by daisydaisy (# 12167) on
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Went to see The Lone Ranger on Friday just because I could - I'm not sure I'd have gone if it hadn't had Johnny Depp in it. It had lovely scenery and some humour but was a bit gory, but then it is a Western so I guess gore is to be expected. The storyline jumped back and forth around history quite a bit, and I'm not sure it worked as well as was probably intended. Not a film I'd see again, nor one I'd necessarily recommend but I didn't feel that I'd wasted the evening.
Posted by Porridge (# 15405) on
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Recently a friend was raving to me about having finally read Gone With The Wind. I've never read it, and tried to give it a go, checking it out from the local library.
Ye gods. I'll never talk books with that friend again. I made it halfway through Chapter 1 before giving up in utter disgust; the thing is unreadable trash. However, I then decided (please don't ask; these are things I can't explain even to myself) to rent the 1939 movie.
What's worse, I watched the entire thing. I guess in part I was curious, having been reading threads on male feminists and attitudes toward race on the Ship. I kind of wanted to see how Mitchell (assuming the film had something more in common with the novel than its title -- never a safe assumption chez Hollywood) viewed her subject matter.
Amazing: all the happy if slightly mentally-defective "darkies," striving alongside their owners for the preservation of the institution of slavery. At one point, one of these characters mentions that other "servants" "runned away," though there's not the faintest hint as to why, unless it's fear of the invading demon Yanks.
And the main characters -- !! Scarlett is an emotional idiot; Rhett is a rapist (and perhaps predictably, Scarlett falls in love with him after he rapes her); Ashley is a dithering fop; and Melanie is a cardboard saint.
I know; I have no one but myself to blame. I hang my head in shame.
Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on
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The one thing that saved the movie for me, other than Vivian Leigh's glorious scenery-chewing, was Hattie McDaniel's going, "if I am stuck being a dumbass mammy character, I am going to be the best damn mammy character you ever seen!" She rocked it. She elevated that shitty, stereotypical role to comedic brilliance. She deserved that Oscar.
Posted by L'organist (# 17338) on
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GWTW loses any romance it may have had once you learn that Vivien Leigh had terrible trouble shooting the clinches with Clark Gable because his dentures (!) gave him permanent halitosis...
Hattie McDaniel was brilliant - as was Butterly McQueen as the ditsy Prissy.
As you say, the plot is pretty terrible: the character of Ashley, in particular, is simply unbelievable - and if the character of Scarlet is true then she'd either have strangled Melanie to get at him, but more likely would have realised what a wimp he was and got on with her life.
The Inn of the Sixth Happiness has been on TV recently: I'm very torn by the film, which takes appalling liberties with the life-story of Gladys Aylward but it does, at least, tell some of the story of the orphans she led through the mountains. GA came and preached at the church I attended as a child and she was so different from Ingrid Bergman - short and dumpy with dark hair, not a willowy blonde and still with a marked London/Essex accent.
Posted by JoannaP (# 4493) on
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This evening we saw The Hammer Horror The Mummy, with Peter Cushing and Christopher Lee, outside at the British Museum. It was great fun, an excellent film, even if not 100% Egyptologically accurate.
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This evening we saw The Hammer Horror The Mummy, with Peter Cushing and Christopher Lee, outside at the British Museum. It was great fun, an excellent film, even if not 100% Egyptologically accurate.
But does it have anything to match the bit in the Boris Karloff original where you have the Egyptologist gibbering in a corner with the shot of trailing bandages moving across the floor....
Posted by Ariel (# 58) on
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What you lot are missing about Gone With the Wind is that Ashley Wilkes was played by Leslie Howard who was hugely popular back in the day. I didn't belong to that generation, but I had a crush on him myself when younger and even though that's faded, I still think he was a good actor. Vivien Leigh was the other one who carried the film. However, I never liked Clark Gable, and I did know about the halitosis.
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Originally posted by Firenze:
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Originally posted by JoannaP:
This evening we saw The Hammer Horror The Mummy, with Peter Cushing and Christopher Lee, outside at the British Museum. It was great fun, an excellent film, even if not 100% Egyptologically accurate.
But does it have anything to match the bit in the Boris Karloff original where you have the Egyptologist gibbering in a corner with the shot of trailing bandages moving across the floor....
No, just a gibbering Egyptologist with no trailing bandage or anything to indicate why...
Posted by Eigon (# 4917) on
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I have a book called Place of Stones, by Ruth Janette Ruck. Mostly it's about her life as a Welsh hill farmer, but there is a chapter called Chinese Interlude where she gets involved in the filming of The Inn of Sixth Happiness, some of which was filmed somewhere near Beddgelert. She even got to be a Chinese soldier in a battle scene!
Posted by Sir Kevin (# 3492) on
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We are searching for a good British film, which can be difficult in this market. The film about the butler was great, but we are not into paying large amounts of money for films that are mostly CGI violence. I worked on a film which did things the old fashioned way by actually blowing cars up and destroying buildings by hand. The method was called "character plaster" , the company was Universal and the film was Jamie Foxx's The Kingdom. Not a critical success but not a CGI tour-de-force either!
Posted by L'organist (# 17338) on
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Sir Kevin
Not sure if you mean a film with a storyline in the UK or a film with a largely British cast and made by a British director???
For the first, I'd nominate Tom Jones which stars a very young Albert Finney. A wonderful romp and with some marvellous actors.
Otherwise, Kingdom of Heaven (2005) is a good film - some reviewers weren't kind but I found it enjoyable and the cast is good.
Posted by Twilight (# 2832) on
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Originally posted by Ariel:
What you lot are missing about Gone With the Wind is that Ashley Wilkes was played by Leslie Howard who was hugely popular back in the day. I didn't belong to that generation, but I had a crush on him myself when younger and even though that's faded, I still think he was a good actor.
I still have a crush on him. Leslie Howard was one fine sharp dressed man.
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I never had a crush on Leslie Howard, but... having watched 'sharp dressed man' maybe the lovely Tom Hiddleston could play him in any future Hollywood bio...
Posted by would love to belong (# 16747) on
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I haven't seen many new films this year, but I did go and see "Lincoln" and really enjoyed it. So much so that I went to see it a second time and a third time. Much of the brilliant script was lost on me on the first viewing.
I saw Gone With the Wind for the first time aged about 12 in a fleapit in Helensburgh. It didn't make much of an impression on me then, except for the scene where Rhett and Scarlet's little girl (name?) was thrown from her pony and killed.
Posted by L'organist (# 17338) on
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Bonny Blue Butler (because her father opined that the child's eyes were as "blue as the bonny blue flag"...
Posted by Ariel (# 58) on
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Originally posted by Twilight:
I still have a crush on him. Leslie Howard was one fine sharp dressed man.
Oooh. Thank you.
Sad person that I am, I could name most of the films those clips came from before the credits came up...
Posted by Palimpsest (# 16772) on
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I just saw the new Woody Allen movie "Blue Jasmine". Cate Blanchet plays a woman who had been married to a shady financier (Alec Baldwin) who has been convicted and now she has to live in a San Francisco apartment with her sister and kids.
It was good, not as good as Midnight in Paris but still a worthwhile if depressing film if only to watch Cate chew the scenery as she goes downhill.
The film is set in Manhattan and the Hamptons and San Francisco so I got a kick out of knowing most of the background scenery.
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If you're looking for a good British film, "My Weekend with Marilyn" which is a film about the making of 1957 Prince and the Showgirl".
You may enjoy the period film/theater references.
Posted by fletcher christian (# 13919) on
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Just watched Elysium which was getting rave reviews here...although I'm not too sure why. As a movie it's ok - same story as every other sci-fi you've ever watched, but watchable. What really killed the movie though was the camera work. At every crucial moment the camera men seemed to be attacked with a vicious bout of Parkinson's. I've seen a few films (well, very few to be honest) where this sort of camera work, works, but here it was just annoying and really badly done. Ruined the entire movie experience. On a positive note it has cool robots, but sadly no monsters.
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I haven't seen Elysium, but a new book "Sleepless in Hollywood" talks about the current state of Big Budget Film.
90 percent of US Big Budget Studio film rental revenue comes from overseas. In particular China, Russia and other non European markets are a huge amount of the box office. DVD's are hard to estimate given piracy and online rental. Hence the glut of action explosion CGIfilms. Humor doesn't translate well.
Unlike the US, where 3D film making has once again peaked and many movie goers don't want to see 3D, those foreign viewers can't get enough of it. In China, where the Government wants to boost the local film industry, the domestic makers have limited skill with 3D and CGI. So the official quotas for big foreign blockbuster summer films require 3D to be used.
The result is that the studios are making many films with a 3D for the international market and a flat version for domestic US viewing. This and the tendency to synthesize the 3D instead of shoot it may yield those camera jitters. I saw a flat print of the new Star Trek and many of the obviously intended for 3D effects were annoying.
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Posted by fletcher christian (# 13919) on
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I don't think the jittery camera is for 3D in this instance. If it was it would almost certainly induce vomiting.
But along the same lines, I was reading something not so long ago in Screen International that 3D is basically a format being pushed by the studios and distributors because it's so damned difficult to pirate (a bit like HD and Blue ray discs). Sales right across the world in 3D cinema ticket sales have slumped and many thousands of cinemas are now reporting customers phoning to request if there is a non 3D version on show. SI has pushed for a very long time for universally co-ordinated release dates for both cinema and DVD sales, and I think they are right. The current situation is killing cinema and creating a banquet for piracy nerds. I've been patiently waiting for the fourth season of something I follow to appear on DVD and meanwhile in the US they are watching the seventh season on TV. It's very tempting to go watch it on piracy streaming sites and not bother to support it by buying it, and I really can't blame those who opt for this. It's a system that is set up in such a way that it benefits the piracy heads, and why studios and distributors can't see this I really can't say, but until they change it, it will continue to be a major issue.
Screen also wrote about the rise of the East in the same article. They pointed out that many big budget movies now essentially cater to the Asian market - the inclusion of Asian settings, Asian actors, ninjas, samurai's etc. It's all well and good, but the Michael Bay school of 'How To Make A Really Cool Movie' (by having an explosion, fight or car chase every five minutes) is also killing cinema. There is no craft to these things, so even if they get a good script and story, they often botch it with shitty execution. There seems to be this notion that the East has no noble tradition of cinema and that they will be wowed by big bangs and flashes and loads of action. They seem to forget that the greatest film ever made came out of the East and that as technicians in film, Asia has always produced nothing but the finest that US directors to this day still try and emulate....and fail.
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Kurosawa, one of my favourite directors comes to mind. But what is SI, Fletcher? Here in the US, it is of course a magazine best known for its swimsuit issue...
Posted by Palimpsest (# 16772) on
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The sad news is that those international markets still love 3D. The US is over it. Part of this is that China in its semi official form has invested in a chain of big IMAX/3D theaters and they get to set the rules on Hollywood imports.
As a friend of mine used to whisper before the trailers started for the Comic book feature;
"repeat after me.. you are not the target demographic."
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Posted by fletcher christian (# 13919) on
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But what is SI, Fletcher?
Sorry, it's for Screen International
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on
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I've just watched Ladies in Lavender for the first time in years - stunning performances by Maggie Smith and, especially, Judi Dench, who can tear my emotions with just a glance.
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on
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Last night it was the turn of Tea with Mussolini which has so many wonderful performances with Joan Plowright taking the honours as far as I am concerned.
eta: and I think Judi Dench must have thoroughly enjoyed doing that wonderfully over the top scene in the cemetery at the start of the movie.
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Posted by L'organist (# 17338) on
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Just come in from seeing the live feed from the National Theatre of Othello with Adrian Lester and Rory Kinnear.
Blissful!
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on
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I've just watched the 1939 version of Goodbye, Mr Chips for which Robert Donat won a well deserved Oscar as Best Actor. 70 odd years later it is still a stunning portrayal of Hilton's complex character.
Great fun.
Posted by Sir Kevin (# 3492) on
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That it is!
Later this weekend we shall be watching RUSH director Ron Howard. I remember that era: I bribed a rent-a-cop to stand at the hairpin curve at the Long Beach Gran Prix in 1976. My wife worked at the Italian restaurant where some of the drivers ate. She is a big F1 fanatic also.
Posted by ArachnidinElmet (# 17346) on
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Originally posted by L'organist:
Just come in from seeing the live feed from the National Theatre of Othello with Adrian Lester and Rory Kinnear.
Blissful!
That sound that you can't hear over the internet is me seething with jealousy
The live feeds of the National Theatre are always shown on Thursdays, which I can never make. This Othello looked so good; I think there is another Rory Kinnear one late 2013/early 2014. Oh, well.
Posted by Sir Kevin (# 3492) on
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Would that I could get them here. I work for the local opera company and still have my student ID: we will see Pinafore with decent seat in a few weeks and Flying Dutchman in November.
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on
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Tonight it was the turn of The Birdcage - Gene Hackman is just stunning in drag! I am always more impressed with Nathan Lane's performance than I am with Robin Williams.
I think I still prefer La Cage aux Folles [perhaps next week] but this is about as good as a remake gets.
Posted by L'organist (# 17338) on
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Last night was about escapism : R.I.P.D. with Ryan Reynolds and Jeff Bridges.
Pure tosh - bliss
Posted by Sir Kevin (# 3492) on
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We saw James Gandolfini's last film earlier this week. It was great: no stunts, no CGI, just a man and a woman trying to carry on a romantic relationship without interference from their families. Well worth driving more than 12 miles to see!
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on
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This week my copy of Dr Strangelove arrived - years since I've seen it but still good fun with an early-ish appearance by James Earl Jones. George C Scott gives probably the best performance of the lot. Nice to see Peter Bull, the fellow arctophile, again.
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Originally posted by Welease Woderwick:
This week my copy of Dr Strangelove arrived
Now that was a really good film.
Posted by Clarence (# 9491) on
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I'm not sure what the distribution outside of Australia might be, but on the weekend FD and I saw The Turning, the adaptation of Tim Winton's book of interwoven short stories of the same name.
The best way to describe it is like going to an art gallery of films. Each of the stories was directed by someone different and the whole effect is extraordinary.
I'm still thinking about it two days later.
Posted by Porridge (# 15405) on
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I recently watched The Hours, expecting to be impressed as usual by Meryl Streep. I wasn't disappointed; she was impressive. But I was blown away by Julianne Moore and Nicole Kidman.
Kidman as Virginia Woolf was especially astonishing. Can't remember what, if anything, else I've seen her in, but until now I've thought of her as just another blonde glamourpuss.
So wrong.
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So glad you saw that. That is one I have watched over and over... yes, all three women in the principal roles are outstanding.
I also like Toni Collette's little turn as the popular socialite friend who isn't as together as she seems. She took me from despising her to weeping for her. And Claire Danes's moments as the daughter. That film is like an actress Fantasy Football league.
Posted by Porridge (# 15405) on
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Having now watched another film (but B or C-level -- what was her agent thinking?) with Kidman in the major role, I suspect a good script and a good director are what she needs to tap into her own ability.
Posted by Late Paul (# 37) on
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Just watched Joss Whedon's Much Ado About Nothing.
I enjoyed it. It doesn't topple the Branagh/Thompson version as my favourite but it has a lot to commend it. For one, in most productions I've seen Claudio is a bit of a blank slate. He's there to move the plot along but you're usually watching the other characters. Here Fran Kranz made the part come alive in a way I've not quite seen before. Also I think the key scenes between Beatrice and Benedict - especially the one centred around 'kill Claudio' - work exceptionally well.
In any case I suspect the Branagh is my favourite due to seeing it at an impressionable age, and when I was falling for someone.
Oh and Sean Maher as a villian? Perfect! How come he's not doing that all the time?
Posted by Eigon (# 4917) on
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A friend has been lending me all the Babylon 5 episodes, and I've just watched the third film that they made, A Call to Arms, in which President Sheridan foils a plot to destroy Earth - almost. The idea was to set up a second five year series, with the people of Earth under threat of a bio-engineered plague and Our Heroes searching for a cure, but it was never taken up.
I liked it, and thought it was the best of the three Babylon Five films.
Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on
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Originally posted by Porridge:
Having now watched another film (but B or C-level -- what was her agent thinking?) with Kidman in the major role, I suspect a good script and a good director are what she needs to tap into her own ability.
Check her out in The Others and Cold Mountain. Both really meaty, complex roles, although more so in the former.
[tangent]A bunch of us were discussing female facial expressions off board-- here's the thing-- I think a number of directors (especially of the B variety)have their actresses hold a certain look for the camera that will produce the most stunning shot-- not necessarily the one that will allow the actress in question to express the required emotion the most fully. Because Kidman is so flipping gorgeous, I fear she has been put in that position- they only allow her to stare dreamily into the lights, just so.[/tangent]
Back to "The Hours" alumnae-- I really was moved by Julianne Moore's performance. Her agony was apparent, and her attempts (in character)to be authentic while sticking to the 50's housewife script were masterfully executed.
If you want to see her kick more thespian ass, check out "Safe." It's a very strange, Kubrick- esque character study/ social commentary revolving around a woman who gets a mysterious chemical sensitivity condition in the early 80's. Moore does a fantastic job of portraying this rather spiritless, over-impressionable, easily-lead woman who finally thinks about what she wants and needs when her body completely breaks down. The film also has a meta-statement about the various trends in medicine and pseudo-medicine at the onset of the AIDS epidemic.
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Oh, I'd forgotten The Others. Genuinely creepy, and yes, Kidman pretty much walked off with it. I've added Safe to my Netflix queue.
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Posted by Palimpsest (# 16772) on
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Well the Seattle Gay Film Festival has started. So far I saw a great documentary on Divine, a film about a 40 year old broke lesbian film maker living in a garage and making film and 4 films about gay men who have gone straight and had a kid when a gay lover shows up.
There was a horrifying documentary about being Gay in Cameroun where it's illegal.
Tonight's film was "Reaching for the Moon" a film about the Poet Elizabeth Pike and her Brazilian lover who was an Architect who built Flamengo park in Rio.
The one I'm looking forward to is a new documentary about Moms Mabley directed by Whoopi Goldberg.
Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on
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They made a film about Divine???
Oh wait, sorry misread that. They should make a film about Divine, anyway.
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Posted by Mamacita (# 3659) on
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Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
I also like Toni Collette's little turn as the popular socialite friend who isn't as together as she seems.
I loved Toni Collette in Muriel's Wedding and then managed to lose track of her. I didn't make the connection at all when I saw The 6th Sense and it wasn't until Little Miss Sunshine that I had the "aha!" moment. The latter has, by the way, an outstanding ensemble cast.
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'm beginning to beleive that an actor's ability to work ensemble is what really shifts them from good to outstanding.
Anyway-- in my Julianne Moore rave, I forgot to give another recommendation-- lately the cable network has been re-running the film Freedomland over and over again, and I find myself getting sucked into it each time I come across it. Moore plays a woman who walks through an New Jersey housing development one night(Armostrong), bleeding and distraught, claiming she's been carjacked. On further questioning, she reveals her four year old son was in the back seat and describes her assailant as a black man. Her story gradually develops huge, gaping holes, and the redidents of the projects are pitted against the residents of the nearby predominantly white blue-collar neighborhood(Gannon), from which Moore comes.
Samuel L. Jackson also stars as the detective on the armstrong beat, and Edie Falco commands a supporting role as a volunteer child abduction investigator who finally coaxes the truth out of Moore. But Moore is blood-chilling as this fucked-up, damaged woman who has learned to rely on a thousand rationalizations to survive.
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Posted by no prophet (# 15560) on
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Boogie Nights made me uncomfortable with Julianne Moore. The circumstances of watching it were such that I could not simply leave, but would have if I could have.
Saw V for Vendetta recently, and consider the issues rather interesting given the apparent intrusion of all of our countries' government agencies in collecting all of our phone call meta data, email, purchases, and generally violating all of our privacy.
Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on
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Originally posted by no prophet:
Boogie Nights made me uncomfortable with Julianne Moore. The circumstances of watching it were such that I could not simply leave, but would have if I could have.
Hm. that's another one I have watched over and over again. P.T Anderson has a phenomenal gift for pacing-- the flow of the film is almost like a folk song on celluloid. But the subject matter is indeed challenging, I understand. And Moore-- who seems to have a special gift for portraying women falling apart-- goes through a sad journey in this.
(For those who haven't seen it-- Boogie Nights is about the "golden age" of the adult film industry, as recounted through the rise and fall of a porn star, portrayed (very well, I think) by Mark Wahlberg. Things get dark and grim when drugs and AIDS come on the scene.)
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Things get dark and grim when drugs and AIDS come on the scene.)
If I recall correctly, Boogie Nights doesn't actually get into AIDS, and the chronology might actually stop, possibly on purpose, right before it became a major health issue.
And the drugs are present right from the get-go(eg. the ODed women at the pool party), but it's only in the second half that they begin any serious negative impact on the lives of the characters we're following.
For the most part, I think, the misfortunes that befall the characters in the 80s are more a case of their 70s proclivities starting to bear bitter fruit, eg. Dirk spirals further into addiction, Little Bill finally snaps over his wife's philandering, Amber and the cowboy discover that their cinematic careers can have negative impact on other areas of their lives, etc. Admittedly, Horner's descent into cheeziness and exploitation(as compared to his earlier efforts at legitimacy) are shown as related to the video boom.
I agree about the pacing. It's on especially wonderful display in the "Wonderland" scene, when they rob the drug dealer.
EDIT: Just checked, and according to wiki, the story ends in 1985, well after AIDS had hit the public consciousness. Still don't recall it being mentioned in the film, though.
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Posted by no prophet (# 15560) on
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I guess I have trouble with a "golden age" of porn and the porn industry. It strikes as akin to the golden age of prostitution to me. I'm no prude, but Boogie Nights seemed seedy. I thought it was another in the chain of films that seemed to signify the disintegration of society, of the breakdown of civilization. But in an excessively explicit way, which it not merely about the sexual subject matter. Perhaps some of my discomfort has to do with blurring lines between pornography and not. Is Boogie Nights pornographic itself? I guess I'd have to say that is not as a whole, but it contains pornographic scenes.
Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on
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Originally posted by Stetson:
Kelly wrote:
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Things get dark and grim when drugs and AIDS come on the scene.)
If I recall correctly, Boogie Nights doesn't actually get into AIDS, and the chronology might actually stop, possibly on purpose, right before it became a major health issue.
And the drugs are present right from the get-go(eg. the ODed women at the pool party), but it's only in the second half that they begin any serious negative impact on the lives of the characters we're following.
For the most part, I think, the misfortunes that befall the characters in the 80s are more a case of their 70s proclivities starting to bear bitter fruit, eg. Dirk spirals further into addiction, Little Bill finally snaps over his wife's philandering, Amber and the cowboy discover that their cinematic careers can have negative impact on other areas of their lives, etc. Admittedly, Horner's descent into cheeziness and exploitation(as compared to his earlier efforts at legitimacy) are shown as related to the video boom.
I agree about the pacing. It's on especially wonderful display in the "Wonderland" scene, when they rob the drug dealer.
EDIT: Just checked, and according to wiki, the story ends in 1985, well after AIDS had hit the public consciousness. Still don't recall it being mentioned in the film, though.
I thought is was implied-- part of what you said about the excesses of the seventies whipping back around on folk. My mention of drugs becoming more of an issue-- yeah, it was present from the beginning, but it seemed like the 1980's new year party was a real turning point in Dirk's drug story-- is knowing that at the beginning of the 80's, cocaine use suddenly spiked and became hugely problematic, not just for individuals but for the whole drug culture. Likewise, the fag-bashing scene toward the end is a hint of how AIDS was affecting culture-- because people saw AIDS as a "gay disease" at first, attacks on gay people spiked, too.
Another sub text(as you say) is about the film industry itself-- the shift from celluloid to video, and the implication that easier/ cheaper film making techniques actually lowered the quality of film artistry across the board, and instead of competing against artistry people were competing against attention getting devices-whether it be three-ways and five-ways or snappy special effects. (I find Jack Horner's story arc weirdly compelling. I empathize with his desire to find a fascinating story to tell.)
The genius moment in the film for me is the scene in the "Wonderland" homage you mentioned, where the camera focuses on Dirk and we are allowed to sit with him for several seconds and just soak in what a bad scene he is finding himself in. it's almost like you sense that he is trying to work out the most graceful exit possible.
And I dunno, Dirk grabs me from the beginning-- he's a fucked-up kid with few prospects and no support, and the porn industry becomes his family substitute. I guess stories about people trying to find family when that is lacking in their lives compel me. As for no prophet-- well, if the subject itself going to put you off, you're right, it's probably not your film.
(I could go on-- this was the first film that made me notice how wonderful Don Cheadle is. His story arc hit me too-- he's turned down for a business loan because he is a pornographer, but who would give a preschool teacher a loan, either?)
(And while AIDS was not "officially" discussed until about 1985, as you say, it was very much in the public consciousness from about 1981 on, particularly in highly urban areas like NYC, LA and San Francisco, where activists were already setting up clinics and awareness campaigns.)
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Posted by Twilight (# 2832) on
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Another Julianne Moore fan here. Besides being great at playing women who are falling apart she does a fabulous job portraying women who are straining to hold themselves together while under pressure; Far From Heaven is one of my favorite movies. Another thing she's good at that many modern actresses aren't is playing women from other eras and getting those small mannerisms and movements right.
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My mention of drugs becoming more of an issue-- yeah, it was present from the beginning, but it seemed like the 1980's new year party was a real turning point in Dirk's drug story-- is knowing that at the beginning of the 80's, cocaine use suddenly spiked and became hugely problematic, not just for individuals but for the whole drug culture.
That could well be. I'm not overly familiar with the history of cocaine, in terms of how pure or potent it was at any given time.
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it seemed like the 1980's new year party was a real turning point in Dirk's drug story
Yeah, the murder of Mrs. Bill is kind of the dividing point between the two parts("happy" and "sad" for lack of better categories) of the story.
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(And while AIDS was not "officially" discussed until about 1985, as you say, it was very much in the public consciousness from about 1981 on, particularly in highly urban areas like NYC, LA and San Francisco, where activists were already setting up clinics and awareness campaigns.)
Just for clarification, I meant that the movie ends in 1985, not that AIDS became an important issue then(see my edit). I agree, it had entered the public consciousness, even outside of the big cities, a couple of years earlier. Rock Hudson's diagnosis(1984 I believe) was regarded as something of a turning point, but even then, no one had to explain to me(living in a relative backwater) what AIDS was.
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Perhaps some of my discomfort has to do with blurring lines between pornography and not. Is Boogie Nights pornographic itself? I guess I'd have to say that is not as a whole, but it contains pornographic scenes.
I'd have to come down on the side of saying it's not pornographic. If I recall, there is only one sex scene, Dirk's audition with Amber, and even that is not explicit, when compared to what can be seen in some other more-or-less mainstream films.
I'm sure that it attracted its share of audience members who were just looking for voyeuristic thrills, but they'd probably come away disappointed, and maybe even a little disquieted at just how negative the portrayal of the industry gets towards the end. Think about the Colonel's story arc, where he goes from being seen as this good-natured bon vivant to being an outright child molestor: not exactly the kind of thing you'd put in a film intended to create postive vibes about the porn industry.
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Minor correction:
Contrary to what I implied above, Hudson's illness didn't become public knowledge until 1985, though he had been diagnosed in 1984.
Posted by jedijudy (# 333) on
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From the closed "Sunshine on Leith film":
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Originally posted by Francophile:
Just been to see this film.
What a disappointment after the stage version.
The Proclaimers music didn't come alive except maybe the last scene. On the stage, it did.
Most of the external shots were Edinburgh city, not Leith. I'm convinced some were shot in Glasgow.
Don't waste your money seeing this.
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The Proclaimers also did the end title for Benny and Joon, which is well worth seeing. It made the song 500 Miles a hit.
Makes be also think of the 1990 or so movie, The Commitments, which is about putting together an R & B band in Dublin.
We watched both on a 10° day of rain in July.
Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on
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Originally posted by Stetson:
I'd have to come down on the side of saying it's not pornographic. If I recall, there is only one sex scene, Dirk's audition with Amber, and even that is not explicit, when compared to what can be seen in some other more-or-less mainstream films.
I'm sure that it attracted its share of audience members who were just looking for voyeuristic thrills, but they'd probably come away disappointed, and maybe even a little disquieted at just how negative the portrayal of the industry gets towards the end. Think about the Colonel's story arc, where he goes from being seen as this good-natured bon vivant to being an outright child molestor: not exactly the kind of thing you'd put in a film intended to create postive vibes about the porn industry.
One last note in agreement with this: another moment of genuis is the scene where Dirk is "preparing" for a scene after a 2 day coke binge, and physically can't do it, causing him to burstinto tears. It's painful to watch, and I was really impressed with Wahlburg in this scene. Ordinarily I would rate him a fair actor, but Anderson really took him to great places in this one.)ISTM if anything would put a guy off a career in porn, that would do it.
And to agree with Twilight-- Moore's adaptablilty with dialogue is supreme. I love her phony bad acting voice in this one, and her "She's not English, she's pretentious!" voice in The Big Lebowski (Her description of that character.)
Posted by Gill H (# 68) on
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I really enjoyed Sunshine on Leith , but I can well believe the stage show was better - they usually are.
'Let's Get Married' was a particularly joyous scene.
At least most of the cast were actually Scottish (unlike the forthcoming 'One Chance' film where hardly anyone in it appears to be Welsh...)
I didn't know all the songs but it didn't matter - as with the under-rated 'Our House' stage musical, it works on its own merits.
And it had some of the spirit and joy which I found missing from the wispy-dreamy-doomy stage show of 'Once' - a show based around Irish and Czech musicians which never lets rip with a full-blooded, whisky-fuelled jig.
Posted by Figbash (# 9048) on
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And mention of Scottish casts, naturally brings me round to the fact that I have just witnessed the full, final restored, complete edition of The Wicker Man.
This is awesome on just so many levels. The extra time (running time and in the action, which now takes place over three days) helps create not so much a rush to the climax as the sense that Howie the Cop is exploring an alien world, which becomes stranger and more disorienting the longer he is in it.
What's also fascinating is that we can see far more of the natives and their lives. These aren't flower children or drop-outs. They're hard working Scottish islanders who just happen to worship nature gods. Otherwise they're all very ordinary. Which is as it should be. While Howie, with his arrogant certainty that he knows the truth, becomes more and more strange to us, almost incomprehensible, and certainly entirely unsympathetic right up to the almost ultimate moment when, inside the burning wicker man, he stops screaming verses from his Bible, and finally becomes human, collapsing into a corner and sobbing. Perhaps he may be redeemable after all?
Another thing that struck me was that, given how much nudity and sex there is, it's remarkable how lacking in lubricity, sexualisation or objectification it all is. The naked village maidens are quite natural and innocent. I wonder when I last saw a modern film of which I could say that?
And finally, what really comes through now is the fact that the film is, basically, a musical. It seems that nearly everything except Howie's dialogue is set to music. And yet, again, it's all natural, because it's all entirely diegetic.
Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on
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That is a fantastic analysis. You are so right.
Posted by Palimpsest (# 16772) on
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I just finished watching ten days of films at the Seattle Gay and Lesbian Film Festival. There was a great biography documentary "I am Divine". The best film imho was "Reaching for the moon" about Pulitzer Prize–winning poet Elizabeth Bishop and her Brazilian lover architect Lota de Macedo Soares.
Today I saw "Southern Baptist Sissies" the filming of a play about how the evangelical church damages Gay children. It was good but painful. Some of the people in the audience who had the experience were pretty shaken up.
Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on
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I can't believe I haven't raved about "Box of Moonlight" One of my favorite films ever, a nineties indie classic. Starts John Turturro as an uptight building foreman going through a midlife crisis who takes advantage of a halt in a project to take a private road trip in rural New Jersey. Things do not go as planned, and he ends up saddled with a hippie, off-grid living little freak of a sidekick, played masterfully by (who else?) Sam Rockwell. It's a gem You will never look at Hydrox the same way again.
Posted by rolyn (# 16840) on
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Stumbled on a film on the True Movie channel the other night called Silent Night .
Only had half an eye on it to start with, thinking this looks cheesy . How wrong I was . A WW2 film with a difference, and thoroughly moving .
Posted by LeRoc (# 3216) on
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Yesterday I watched Pina from Wim Wenders about German choreographer Pina Bausch. I was pleasantly surprised. At first I was a bit apprehensive; I like modern dance but I had never watched it as a film like this. I wasn't sure if I'd like it as much as seeing it live, but it was really good. After the film, there was a discussion where experts explained about her life and her work. A very good afternoon.
Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on
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Wim Wenders. Have we discussed Wings of Desire yet?
Posted by JoannaP (# 4493) on
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Yesterday, it was back to the BFI for The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari - a German film from 1919 - with a live pianist! It is an amazing film with truly fantastic set design. Such a shame that realism became so dominant in cinema.
Posted by Tukai (# 12960) on
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I just saw the new Woody Allen movie "Blue Jasmine". Cate BlanchetT plays a woman who had been married to a shady financier (Alec Baldwin) who has been convicted and now she has to live in a San Francisco apartment with her sister and kids.
It was good, not as good as Midnight in Paris but still a worthwhile if depressing film if only to watch Cate chew the scenery as she goes downhill.
[SNIP]
Cate Blanchett is probably the best actor going around at the moment, in my opinion, as she can capture almost any character. She certainly captured the descent into depression of her character (called Jasmine, hence the title) so compellingly that there is early talk of an Oscar nomination.
And fancy Woody Allen making a film about depression without a single psychoanalyst appearing!
Posted by Stetson (# 9597) on
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(spoilers)
Tonight, I re-watched The Village by M. Night Shyamalan, amd was struck by how much the scenario, dilemma, and "message" resembled that of Danny Boyle's The Beach. Basically, in both stories, a group of people think they've established some sort of protective refuge from modern life, only to find that a) human nature has a way of working its way back into the equation, and b) it's almost impossible to avoid compromises with the outside world.
Obvious differences in the type of utopia that each movie posits, ie. in The Beach, it's some sort of euro-hispter love-in, whereas in The Village it's a reversion to some idealized 19th Century American agrarianism. Plus, the narratives are constructed a little differently, as The Beach tells you right away what the community is all about, whereas The Village drops intermittent hints.
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Posted by David (# 3) on
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Originally posted by Stetson:
Tonight, I re-watched The Village by M. Night Shyamalan
If there is someone with only one decent movie in them, it's him. And it wasn't "The Village".
Posted by Palimpsest (# 16772) on
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This week I saw "Nebraska" with a friend from Nebraska. It's an oddly endearing film even if my companion was clenching his hands during the scene where all the relatives are hanging out watching television during the visit.
Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on
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I really want to see that. I have pretty much liked everything in the director's portfolio, and heard a review of it on NPR that enthused me.
Posted by jedijudy (# 333) on
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I took my elderly friend to see "The Christmas Candle". We both really enjoyed it! My friend was enthralled. There are times she will talk loudly about what's going on in a movie, but that was not the case here.
This is not a movie for deep thoughts, but is certainly good, lighthearted entertainment. Those who don't know a lot about Advent could possibly learn a bit watching this movie.
Oh, and I consider many romances that happen in movies as fairy tales. This is one, BTW! But I don't regret seeing it.
Posted by Sir Kevin (# 3492) on
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The last film we saw was BLACK NATIVITY. It was a musical and well-sung and well-acted. It featured Forrest Whitaker as a Baptist preacher, Jennifer Hudson as a single mom and Mary J. Blige as an angel. It was about a family who was reunited on Christmas Eve. Two other parts were very well-done: the part of the estranged father living in the same neighbourhood as his father-in-law and the teenage son.
We were the only White couple in the cinema and the only other people there were a Black couple. Admittedly, we went on a weekday afternoon, but this film needs better promotion!
One of my English facebook friends recommended it, I believe. This film should not be missed.
Posted by Hugal (# 2734) on
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OK so I am a known Disney fan right. The last film I watched was Frozen. Which was good and worth a watch. A lot of the lyrics are a little clunky but the script is good and the animation is wonderful. Not destined to be a massive hit but good all the same.
Posted by Lyda*Rose (# 4544) on
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I saw Philomena a few weeks ago. It was quite good. It could have been syrupy but I didn't find it that way. Although it illustrated the disastrous consequences of the RC unwed mother/adoption programs in Ireland, it also illustrated the thinking behind them and the changes in POV on "sin" both personal and institutional.
Posted by Firenze (# 619) on
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Originally posted by Kaplan Corday:
I'm giving this film a post of its own because there doesn't appear to be a film thread running at the moment.
I saw it a few days ago, and ever since have been making a cerebral list of all the things wrong with it, while at the same time finding myself unable to shake off its visceral impact.
Any comments?
Posted by Palimpsest (# 16772) on
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I saw the latest Coen Brothers film; "Inside Lewellyn Davis". I enjoyed it a great deal as it followed a folksinger who is not making it in New York City in the early 60's.
Like most Coen Brothers films there's a fair amount of Shaggy Dog to the story (in this case a cat) and it triggered a lot of nostalgia for New York City in the 60's and the music of the time.
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Posted by Ariel (# 58) on
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My DVDs arrived today, and a dark, wet morning has been brightened up by Court Jester, starring Danny Kaye and made in 1956. Some of you may remember those immortal lines:
"The pellet with the poison's in the flagon with the dragon, but the vessel with the pestle has the brew that is true."
Funny to think that the little baby in that film is nearly 60 by now.
And there's a Hitchcock film to save for another day. Some of those old films from the great days of Hollywood are still wonderful, decades on.
Posted by Twilight (# 2832) on
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I finally saw Dead Man Walking for the first time yesterday. I think it's one of the best movies I've ever seen. I knew that Tim Robbins and Susan Sarandon were anti-capital punishment (as I am) so I expected the material to slant in our direction. Not. At. All. They went out of their way to present the other side of the issue to the fullest extent. The perpetrator was unquestionably guilty of a horrible crime. He was personally detestable, even a racist. We were made to feel the pain of the victims' parents and we had to watch the crime in graphic flashbacks.
Sister Prejean (Sarandon) is the best example of a Christian I've seen on film.
The acting is amazing.
Roger Ebert wrote a wonderful five star review of the film that brought out several more reasons why it is so exceptional.
Now if I could just shake it off. Where's that Danny Kaye film?
Posted by Sir Kevin (# 3492) on
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Originally posted by Ariel:
Funny to think that the little baby in that film is nearly 60 by now.
I am 60 in a few days! I remember that film. Mr. Kaye did a lot of hilarious films. What was the one where he played a milkman?
Posted by Kaplan Corday (# 16119) on
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Originally posted by Lyda*Rose:
I saw Philomena a few weeks ago. It was quite good. It could have been syrupy but I didn't find it that way.
Yes, that’s true.
Apparently the genre is known in the movie trade as a “womb trembler”, but this particular example fell far short of crass emotional manipulation.
I had at least three reservations about it.
First, the lead character was not integrated, to my mind, but bifurcated into toughness; experience of thirty years as a nurse; and the intrusive powerful, self-possessed persona of Judy Dench, on the one hand, and the ingenuousness (especially the religious naivete); unworldliness, and lack of cultural sophistication, on the other.
Secondly, while the actions of the RCC in the film were inexcusable, the historically ignorant could go away thinking that they were somehow unique, whereas in that era, even young single mothers in secular hospitals could have their babies removed from them straight after birth, and adopted out, without their even ever seeing them, let alone holding them.
Thirdly, part of the film’s anti-religious narrative drive is dependent on the mother’s claim in the film to have thoroughly enjoyed the sex (“Why would God give us such a capacity for pleasure and then punish us for using it?” asks the atheist journalist), but the idea that a sexually ignorant (“I didn’t know then that I had a clitoris”) virgin Irish teenager in the early fifties, having sex for the first time, outside on the ground or up against a wall, is going to have a great orgasm straight off, is a bit hard to believe.
Posted by Smudgie (# 2716) on
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I get to see Frozen today
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on
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Ariel, I think most Hitchcock is still eminently watchable.
Posted by Ariel (# 58) on
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So do I. The one I've bought is Notorious, with Cary Grant, Ingrid Bergman and Claude Rains (where she marries Claude Rains in order to spy on his Nazi activities, despite her being in love with Cary Grant who is the FBI agent giving her orders). I'm really looking forward to seeing this again.
Posted by jedijudy (# 333) on
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Originally posted by Smudgie:
I get to see Frozen today
I saw that with my Daughter and Granddaughter on Friday!
It was a great way to spend time with two of my favorite people. They had both seen it before, and liked it enough to go again.
I think the story was well-told. Frustrating enough to relate to real life, but with the predictable 'magic' that can put a smile on a grandmother's face!
Posted by Twilight (# 2832) on
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Hubs and I watched "The Reader," last night. Last Christmas someone got me the latest version of "Mildred Pierce." We realized we now know Kate Winslet's body better than our own since we've been avoiding mirrors for years.
"The Reader," raises interesting questions about how much we can or should punish war criminals. It also raises the subject of illiteracy and the shame that many people feel over not being able to read. Unfortunately, I didn't think the film delved deeply enough into either question for us to form answers and we were just left depressed by it all.
Posted by Sir Kevin (# 3492) on
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The Mrs. and I watched Ender's Game last night and she told me what was left out. The writing was awesome: the original author imagined what we know as present-day technology - the iPad, nearly thirty years ago!
My new facebook friend, Mr. Russel Crowe, sent me a trailer of his new film, NOAH, last night. What a cool birthday present. Really looking forward to it when it hits the screens here in about nine weeks! All-star cast includes SIr Anthony Hopkins, Emma Watson and Jennifer Connelly. Re-watching the trailer even as I write...
Posted by leo (# 1458) on
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Originally posted by Twilight:
Hubs and I watched "The Reader," last night. Last Christmas someone got me the latest version of "Mildred Pierce." We realized we now know Kate Winslet's body better than our own since we've been avoiding mirrors for years.
"The Reader," raises interesting questions about how much we can or should punish war criminals. It also raises the subject of illiteracy and the shame that many people feel over not being able to read. Unfortunately, I didn't think the film delved deeply enough into either question for us to form answers and we were just left depressed by it all.
The Reader is very thought provoking.
A review in 'The Reader' magazine prudishly said it wasn't suitable for (lay) Readers so I promptly got the DVD!
Posted by Sir Kevin (# 3492) on
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Saw Anchorman 2 yesterday: very funny! I've been to local television news studios and did not see one that dysfunctional.
Posted by Eigon (# 4917) on
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I went to see The Desolation of Smaug last night.
Golly, Legolas is a show-off! And his dad is a nasty piece of work. The 'love triangle' wasn't as bad as I'd thought it would be, though.
I did like the scenes in Laketown - they made it look like a very real place to live - and the dragon was awesome (though the dwarves fought back a bit too effectively, I thought).
Posted by LutheranChik (# 9826) on
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Thanks to the nearest multiplex's "Senior Day" (we were prepared to show ID, but our grayng hair was enough for the theater employee to give us a discount) and our trying to keep a languishing single friend entertained, we've been going to the movies more lately; nothing indie or artsy at this theater, just the usual.
[spoiler alert] I really liked "Saving Mr. Banks." Of course, it's a horribly bowlderized portrayal of P.L. Travers, but you can't expect much more from a Disney-connected Hollywood major motion picture. For me, the interesting part of the film was the creative tension between all the expected Hollywood conventions and sappy ending and the real darkness and family dysfunction portrayed in an evocative way during the film: the effects of parental alcoholism, mental illness and abuse on children, and how those experiences shape the trajectory of their lives for ill or for good. I went prepared to not be impressed at all, but I was wrong.
On the other hand, I went to "Frozen" with great expectations, especially after reading that it was one of the few family films that adults could go to see without children in tow and still have a good time. The animation was indeed something amazing; but I thought the screenwriting was clunky and inarticulate, and there were some loose ends in the plot that weren't adequately explained or resolved. (And, please, does EVERY male children's movie character have to sound like a 16-year-old surfer dude?) The sung bits were all right but nothing to last the ages. DP fell asleep halfway through the movie, LOL. I just don't think it lived up to the hype. PS The animated short before the film proper IS worth the price of admission; we loved it.
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Posted by Sir Kevin (# 3492) on
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I was an 18-year-old surfer dude and I didn't sound like that. Now, I no longer live in the LA area but I still go out into the Pacific and when at Land's End in England the Atlantic: I am a 60-year-old surfer dude!
I guess I'll give Frozen a miss!
Posted by Garasu (# 17152) on
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Currently shuddering at Legend of Earthsea.
I know I'm late to the party: but did no one involved in this mess read the bloody books?
Posted by Rev per Minute (# 69) on
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I had at least three reservations about it.
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Secondly, while the actions of the RCC in the film were inexcusable, the historically ignorant could go away thinking that they were somehow unique, whereas in that era, even young single mothers in secular hospitals could have their babies removed from them straight after birth, and adopted out, without their even ever seeing them, let alone holding them.
But part of the story is that, in Ireland, there were no 'secular authorities'. The Irish Government largely passed social policy and large amounts of health to the Church, and the RC hierarchy had effectively a power of veto over government and Daìl proposals. So it was simply the Catholic Church who did this IN IRELAND, as the only ones who ran these homes/laundries. The woman was effectively given to the Church institutions by the State and so had nowhere to turn. (The Irish Government has only relatively recently apologised for its abandonment of young women to the Church)
Outside the scope of that book/film, though, there were other people who did this. England and Wales had 'mother and baby homes', sometimes run by or with the Church of England or other churches, which similarly removed babies from unmarried mothers for adoption by 'suitable' families. It wasn't just Ireland, it wasn't just the Catholic Church, but in that story for that woman it was the Catholic structure which let her down.
Posted by David (# 3) on
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I endured the latest Hobbit movie a few weeks back. I recognised some of the characters from the book. In the first half, there were even some events that I remembered having read. In the second half, there were about none. Who knew that Tolkien left so much out of the novel?
FFS, I could have read the book in the time it took to watch either of these CGI extravaganzas. I walked away without the faintest intention to see the last one - who knows, there might be another dragon introduced who provides a love interest for Smaug or something as ridiculous.
And, a caveat: in Australia, they are advertising August: Osage County as some sort of quirky off-beat comedy. Instead, it is depressingly dark and not at all amusing or uplifting.
Posted by ProgenitorDope (# 16648) on
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I watched "Grudge Match" the other day. Not really the kind of thing I'd normally see, but it was shot in my old hometown (Pittsburgh) so my family wanted to see it and were willing to cover my ticket.
It was okay. Had a few funny moments but I wouldn't recommend it. It kind of meandered a bit too much and didn't really make me care that much about the characters.
One thing I thought might be of interest here, though, is that they had a preview (in Spanish for...some reason) for a movie about Jesus called "Son of God."
Posted by LeRoc (# 3216) on
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David: I endured the latest Hobbit movie a few weeks back. I recognised some of the characters from the book. In the first half, there were even some events that I remembered having read. In the second half, there were about none. Who knew that Tolkien left so much out of the novel?
FFS, I could have read the book in the time it took to watch either of these CGI extravaganzas. I walked away without the faintest intention to see the last one - who knows, there might be another dragon introduced who provides a love interest for Smaug or something as ridiculous.
Exactly my thoughts.
Posted by Sir Kevin (# 3492) on
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Mr. Russel Crowe posted yet another trailer on my facebook account. Suspect he is under a lot of pressure to make it a roaring big success...
Posted by orfeo (# 13878) on
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Has anyone else seen 'American Hustle'? It was my last movie of 2013 and I really enjoyed it. Great ensemble cast - Christian Bale, Amy Adams and Bradley Cooper all highly enjoyable in the biggest roles. For me there was something delicious about watching these characters gradually lose control of the situation they were in and scrambling to get back on top.
Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on
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Another on my list of films by directors I like that I plan to see. I heard a great review of it on NPR.
Posted by leo (# 1458) on
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I have just watched 'The Help'. It's about racism in the US.
The cast is nearly all female and there's a sisterhood thing going on where a few white women support black maids to tell their stories of abuse.
The other women believe themselves to be 'society women' while the black maids dance to their attention, obey orders and are treated as dirt. 'Dirt' is the key word in one example of a maid's revenge upon her employer.
Posted by Sherwood (# 15702) on
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Going to see the second Hobbit movie on Thursday, finally. I'm looking forward to it, apart from one thing: the spiders.
How real-world-looking are the spiders in the Mirkwood scenes? Also, how long do the spidery scenes go on for, roughly?
Posted by SvitlanaV2 (# 16967) on
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Sherwood
Having forgotten the book I didn't realise there was going to be a spider scene in the film! It went on too long for my liking, and there were too many big spiders with horrible spidery legs!
On the plus side, the cobwebs didn't look terribly realistic, at least not to me. And when the scene is over, it's over. None of the characters suffer flashbacks - thought I'm sure I would!
I'm looking forward to seeing '12 Years a Slave' next. I'll save that for February.
Posted by Sir Kevin (# 3492) on
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Sherwood, are you related to Tim S., the manager at White Hart Lane?
May see Hobbit movie at the second-run cinema. Must read reviews, read the book eons ago!
Posted by Sherwood (# 15702) on
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No, I'm not I'm afraid. I am a fan of Robin Hood*, however!
*The legend as a whole, rather than a specific version.
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Posted by David (# 3) on
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May see Hobbit movie at the second-run cinema. Must read reviews, read the book eons ago!
Reading the book turns out to be a hindrance. Or irrelevant.
Posted by LeRoc (# 3216) on
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I watched the Dutch film Nova Zembla a couple of weeks ago, but I didn't like it much. The film jumps through time in a strange way, which detaches the viewer from the story a bit. And it is full of physical impossibilities: for example, the sailors look up from Nova Zembla in August, and see the constellation of Orion
Posted by jedijudy (# 333) on
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When my Granddaughter was staying with me for a few days over Christmas, I had wanted to watch "It's a Wonderful Life" with her. But I couldn't find it anywhere.
Of course, the day after she went home,
I found a copy at Sam's Club and bought it.
Saturday was a lazy day for me, and was the perfect time to watch it, even with no Granddaughter to cuddle with. I had remembered the movie being a good one, but this time I was blown away by the story and the acting. Jimmy Stewart has always been a favorite of mine, and just pulled me into George's life.
The bonus features were pretty good, too, explaining how the snow was made when they filmed during a heat wave!
Posted by Kaplan Corday (# 16119) on
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I enjoyed the Coen brothers’ Inside Llewyn Davis, which was partly personal ( I once had a folk-singer friend who also used to play guitar and sing songs such as Shoals Of Herring in the car while I was driving him), but also because it was realistically messy and untidy.
My wife disliked it because it is fairly grim ( reinforced by both the interior and exterior lighting and colours) and she could not summon any sympathy for the “hero”, who is an unmitigated jerk.
It is set in the folk scene of the early sixties, when genuine folk-singers such as Woody Guthrie were in the past, clean-cut family-friendly groups such as the Kingston Trio and Peter, Paul and Mary are popular (there is a hilarious faux-Irish group in matching Aran pullovers), and Bob Dylan is in the offing.
I think the film’s Llewyn Davis is intended as a harbinger of Dylan (who appears right at the end), the would-be subverter of the genre as it had evolved, though there is no suggestion of electric guitars!
The grotesque John Goodman character didn’t seem to contribute anything to the story – or have I missed something?
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Actually, Oscar Isaac (who played Llewyn) said that the first thing the Coens told him about how to play the character was "Not Dylan." Llewyn supposedly based on Dave Van Ronk, but resembles him only in a handful of superficial details (as the character of Troy Holmes is obviously modeled on Tom Paxton, but misses out entirely on Paxton's wit and charm).
I liked the movie, though at times I found the darkness annoying and false. I wasn't there in 1961, but the folk music scene as I knew only it a few years later included a lot more fun and friendliness than grim, desperate competitiveness. But that's a gripe about the Coen brothers' aesthetic--in their universe, only the squares enjoy life or are nice to anyone.
Anachronism check: Llewyn uses a Shubb capo, which wasn't invented until 1978.
Posted by dyfrig (# 15) on
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Originally posted by Sir Kevin:
May see Hobbit movie at the second-run cinema. Must read reviews, read the book eons ago!
Reading the book turns out to be a hindrance. Or irrelevant.
"My goodness!" cried Bilbo, "Gandalf - you have managed to create far more material from a relatively short book than anyone could either desire or need! One might suspect a cynical attempt to fool people into paying three times when once might be reasonable!"
"Piss off," said Gandalf.
In other news, I'd be intrigued to know if anyone's caught this yet.
Posted by Kaplan Corday (# 16119) on
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Quite enjoyed The Book Thief.
It was not as good as the book, but then I think the book is overrated anyway.
The changes reflect not only the need for condensation, but also the need to avoid any possible ambiguity in a film which is aiming at a wide audience.
Thus in the book Liesel’s foster-father slaps her across the face when she first criticizes Hitler and the Nazis, in order to reinforce the imperative of not voicing such sentiments publicly, but it would be unthinkable in the film for Geoffrey Rush to hit Sophie Nelisse.
A few quibbles.
It is inconceivable that a nine year-old in pre-war Germany, one of the most literate societies in the world, would not know even the alphabet, especially as the child of communists who, whatever else might be said about them, were practically logocentric.
Also, could a boy swim underwater in an icy river while wearing boots, and emerge without the trace of a shiver?
And (to get into “wrist watch in Ben Hur” territory) a working-class boy in the 1930s such as Rudi would not have owned a jacket with a number of zippers, which at that time were still a novel, rare and expensive sartorial feature.
Posted by Palimpsest (# 16772) on
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Today I saw "Her", the movie by Spike Jonze where a man played by Joaquin Phoenix falls in love with his computer operating system (voiced by Scarlet Johansson).
I enjoyed it immensely. Set in slightly future Lost Angeles, it had both an interesting take on the social effects of computer enhanced life and a deeper look at someone who fails at relationships.
Posted by Fool on the hill (# 9428) on
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Re: Inside Llewyn Davis.....my son told me to see this so I immediately went to see it and dragged my husband along. My son is away at school and very much into film, so I see as many films that he recommends as I can. My husband hated it. He said I would watch a pile of crap if my son said to. Haha. I liked it ok. It sparked debate at least.
My son said that its about why a guy got punched. I think he admires minimalism. I think he's right.
The John Goodman character is supposed to present a guy who's even a bigger jerk. Though the girl ends up being pretty awful.
"‘I should have had you wear double condoms… You should be wearing condom on condom, and then wrap it in electrical tape." Hahaha great line.
Loved the cats too.
Posted by leo (# 1458) on
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I've just seen The End of the Affair, based on Graham Greene's novel.
A bit old-fashioned.
It's really a hate letter addressed to God.
Typically RC, though, there's a miracle.
Posted by Lamb Chopped (# 5528) on
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It's awesome. You can just tell God is sneaking up on this guy, and he'll be lucky (?) to avoid a conversion in the near future.
Posted by Eutychus (# 3081) on
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Originally posted by orfeo:
Has anyone else seen 'American Hustle'? It was my last movie of 2013 and I really enjoyed it. Great ensemble cast - Christian Bale, Amy Adams and Bradley Cooper all highly enjoyable in the biggest roles. For me there was something delicious about watching these characters gradually lose control of the situation they were in and scrambling to get back on top.
I wanted to go and see this on Tuesday, but it turned out it was the dubbed version not the English-language version
Hoping to try again on Sunday.
Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on
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Originally posted by Lamb Chopped:
It's awesome. You can just tell God is sneaking up on this guy, and he'll be lucky (?) to avoid a conversion in the near future.
Graham Greene was an interesting cat. I picked up all three volumes of his biography a few years back at a thrift store, Among other things, he seemed to be trying to reconcile his Catholicism with being (in my opinion) genuinely polyamorous.
(ooops, I forgot this was the movie thread.)
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I saw Gravity in 3D. It's pretty good 3D effects. I went with a Russian friend who doesn't deal with English too well, so he was happy for the Russian Soyuz section which was in Cyrillic and we both coped with the Chinese section.
All in all, the character played by Sandra Bullock was fairly annoying in the "unaware girl heading toward the horror film monster" sort of way. If I was in space, I'd be thinking very hard about things like air supply.
Posted by Sparrow (# 2458) on
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I saw Gravity too last week. George Clooney in his space helmet is a dead ringer for Buzz Lightyear! The 3D special effects were indeed good, but I couldn't take the storyline at all seriously, one disaster after another ...
Posted by Eutychus (# 3081) on
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Seen American Hustle now. Well worth it. From my experience, excellent insights into what makes con artists tick and all the related grey moral areas. Would watch again on DVD.
Posted by Lyda*Rose (# 4544) on
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I just saw Dallas Buyers Club with Matthew McConaughey. He's been picking up some interesting roles lately. In this he plays a cowboy/electrition named Ron Woodroof who came down with AIDS from his trifling with the druggie hookers. He was given thirty days to live. That wasn't an answer he was going to take lying down. So with his native wits and determination he found his way into "drug dealing" of medications not then okayed by the FDA, meds that subdued the symptoms of the disease. Based on a real story.
Posted by Pyx_e (# 57) on
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To be clear, I have enjoyed every film I have ever seen (Except "Thin Red Line" which I walked out of).
With that in mind, went to see "Monuments Men" yesterday and thought it was great. Not too demanding. Some comedy and pathos, some great performances (Bill Murray stole the show twice: "John Wayne" lol) and the moral tale was worth re-telling. Well worth a visit for a relaxing couple of hours.
Posted by Sir Kevin (# 3492) on
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We are looking forward to NOAH, starring my facebook friend Russell Crowe next month...
Posted by Cottontail (# 12234) on
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I came home late last night and The Servant was on the telly. That is one seriously creepy weird film. Beautifully shot, with haunting black-and-white images, and a camera that was not afraid to linger. Also notable was its play-like qualities, with the bare minimum of background music.
I always loved Dirk Bogarde, and now I love him even more. And kudos too to James Fox in the weaker role that probably took even more acting skills to pull off.
Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on
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Dirk Bogarde was an exceptional actor. I love him, too.
What am I watching right now, you ask? A big steaming pile of poo called Dusk till Dawn 3. It's twenty minutes in and I am going to shut it off soon, but here's why I started watching it-- it purports to explain the very real life disappearance of author Ambrose Bierce. Made me curious enough to start researching the matter and boy, is it a fascinating story.
Just goes to show, even the suckiest movie can have its benefits.
Posted by lilBuddha (# 14333) on
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Saw the new Robocop. If you like the original, you should like this one. Neither are great films, but they are not intended to be.
The only caveat is that this one is even more heavy-handed with its message.
Samuel, Samuel, Samuel, are you the modern Peter O'Toole, taking any role offered?
Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on
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Originally posted by lilBuddha:
Samuel, Samuel, Samuel, are you the modern Peter O'Toole, taking any role offered?
Preach!
Posted by Hedgehog (# 14125) on
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How apt! As I type this, here in the U.S. Turner Classic Movies is showing Ship of Fools (1965) with Vivian Leigh, Oskar Werner and, well, about a dozen others. Apparently it won Oscars for Cinematography and Art Direction (in February TCM loads up on Oscar-winning films).
Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on
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First time I saw that the Ship was running the "Calling God to Hell" thread, and I noted the scene where the sailors shouted they would send God to Hell and then proceeded to trash steerage. I said to myself, "Simon is a prophet."
Posted by Porridge (# 15405) on
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Recently watched Black Swan which apparently won various Oscars last year, though I cannot think why. Aside from some camera work / effects stuff which was convincing and impressive, I was disappointed. Well, both Natalie Portman and the actress playing her mother did well, but the script was incoherent, and it's a pity they didn't give Portman more to do than dash around looking distraught.
Aren't movies required to tell stories any more? They only have to take vague stabs at suggesting what a story might become, if allowed to develop?
Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on
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Watching the Independent Spirit Awards. Have seen none of the films honored, but one of them has me sitting straight up in my seat. Anybody out there seen All Is Lost?
Apparently it is a Robert Redford one-man-show about a guy who is trapped in the middle of the ocean on a sailboat with a hole in it. The clips looked galvanizing. Want to see!
Posted by scuffleball (# 16480) on
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I was pleasantly surprised by Frozen, having grown accustomed to Disney taking an attitude of "Kids aren't clever enough to tell between good and bad media so let's sell them bland gender-stereotyped plastic crap."
It very much feels like a musical - not as much music as Les Mis but more than Grease. And it shows what can be done in 3D too - no longer the province of expensive films like Avatar but now mainstream. Indeed
I'm not sure why everyone is comparing it to The Little Mermaid in which the protagonists remain incredibly unaware of their failings, be they selfishness or apathy. It reminds me more of The Lion King an original story of epic style with interesting music.
Indeed ISTM there are a lot of Christian themes about the evil of isolation and necessity of communion, as well as about the difference between love as romance and self-sacrifice.
Evangelicals have their own take as a metaphor for works salvation - http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jan/25/disney-frozen-religious-allegory
This is why it seems a bit sad the way the American religious community has jumped onboard the protagonist's singleness and the plot's rejection of some Disney tropes as some sort of abandonment of family values. Particularly odious is the way said community has inferred lesbianism from the protagonist's singleness - not everyone has to have a sexuality, and sexuality need not be the defining feature of a female character! And even if the character were an lgbt person there wouldn't be anything wrong with that. And there are very real issues with the tropes the movie decides to reject.
Interestingly (intentionally or otherwise) the story has been interpreted as "special powers as an allegory for hidden minorities, esp lgbt people" in the style of X-men's "Have you tried... not beng a Mutant?"
Might there be a "Frozen" Lent Course one day?
Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on
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Great review! I am not much for Disney, but now I really want to see this!
Posted by scuffleball (# 16480) on
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Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
Great review! I am not much for Disney, but now I really want to see this!
It's the un-Disney film, definitely, and that's why it has power to be truly challenging - it's all very well preaching to the converted but better to subvert expectations of what might otherwise be twee fluff.
Also that link is slightly spoilers - don't read too much before going to see the film.
Also if you see it in 3d, try to look for a cinema that does dolby 3d not reald 3d.
Posted by lilBuddha (# 14333) on
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Originally posted by scuffleball:
I was pleasantly surprised by Frozen, having grown accustomed to Disney taking an attitude of "Kids aren't clever enough to tell between good and bad media so let's sell them bland gender-stereotyped plastic crap."
Thank John Lasseter. He is the creative head of Disney Animation. He grew up with the classic Disney and had the desire to bring that back. And he has. The Princess and the Frog, Tangled, Frozen, etc., he is bringing back what made Disney, Disney.
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Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
Great review! I am not much for Disney, but now I really want to see this!
It is a good film. It is not Bambi or Cinderella, but it is worthy to sit in the same cabinet.
Posted by Curiosity killed ... (# 11770) on
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Finally got to see Gravity this week. Student I was with came out asking about the realism of the final scenes (I was partly doing it to cover science with him)
Posted by no prophet (# 15560) on
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We saw 2 recently during the current -40°C or °F cold snap. Both streamed to the TV from the internet TV service.
The first was Gravity, which reminded me of a Star trek Voyager episode Day of Honor where two characters are lost in space together, worrying about oxygen and talking. Gravity has better effects, but the character development of George Clooney's character is weak, and Sandra Bullock's moderate I thought. It doesn't compare well with the Tom Hanks movie Apollo 13 from 1985, which is a better movie in all respects except CGI effects.
The second one was Nebraska with Bruce Dern as a father with a single minded vision of what he wants to do. American prairies are different than the Canadian prairies to an extent, but I know people pretty much like the ones depicted. There's an element of extreme versions of the characters, reminding of Fargo.
Both are worth seeing, but I would consider Nebraska one that I would have paid the full theatre price to see, Gravity, not so much.
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Posted by ArachnidinElmet (# 17346) on
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Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
Watching the Independent Spirit Awards. Have seen none of the films honored, but one of them has me sitting straight up in my seat. Anybody out there seen All Is Lost?
Apparently it is a Robert Redford one-man-show about a guy who is trapped in the middle of the ocean on a sailboat with a hole in it. The clips looked galvanizing. Want to see!
I heard really good things about this film, but it didn't seem to get a general release here. The critics on the BBC Film programme were giving their Oscar predictions, and couldn't understand why Redford hadn't got an Oscar nom for his near silent performance.
Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on
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FISA gave him a Best Actor nod.
I highly recommend watching the Independent Spirit awards (Shown on the Saturday before the Oscars yearly on the Independent Film Channel) if you want to find news about those under-publicized films that are worth seeing,and if you want to see underappreciated actors/ directors/ etc get their due.
If I were in a position to make a movie, the one film award I would value above all others-- Oscars, BAFTAS, Globes,you name it-- would be the FISA Robert Altman award for the director, casting director and ensemble cast in an ensemble film. I love that they actually have an award to compete for Best Release of Ego. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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Posted by Kaplan Corday (# 16119) on
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Originally posted by no prophet:
The second one was Nebraska with Bruce Dern as a father with a single minded vision of what he wants to do. American prairies are different than the Canadian prairies to an extent, but I know people pretty much like the ones depicted. There's an element of extreme versions of the characters, reminding of Fargo.
Both are worth seeing, but I would consider Nebraska one that I would have paid the full theatre price to see, Gravity, not so much.
I thought Nebraska was brilliant.
Amongst other things, it did not contain one single glamorous person or interior, which is very rare for a movie.
I loved the line in which the old wife of the old man is showing her son the grave of a good-looking farm boy she had known when they were young, but whom she did not go out with because he was so boring.
Standing astride the grave, she lifts he dress and shouts, "Look what you could have had if you'd just stopped talking about wheat!"
Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on
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She was both a FISA nominee and an Oscar nominee. That was the clip of hers they showed tonight when the award was given. She wuz robbed.
Posted by aunt jane (# 10139) on
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Originally posted by no prophet:
We saw 2 recently during the current -40°C or °F cold snap. Both streamed to the TV from the internet TV service.
The first was Gravity, which reminded me of a Star trek Voyager episode Day of Honor where two characters are lost in space together, worrying about oxygen and talking. Gravity has better effects, but the character development of George Clooney's character is weak, and Sandra Bullock's moderate I thought. It doesn't compare well with the Tom Hanks movie Apollo 13 from 1985, which is a better movie in all respects except CGI effects.
The second one was Nebraska with Bruce Dern as a father with a single minded vision of what he wants to do. American prairies are different than the Canadian prairies to an extent, but I know people pretty much like the ones depicted. There's an element of extreme versions of the characters, reminding of Fargo.
Both are worth seeing, but I would consider Nebraska one that I would have paid the full theatre price to see, Gravity, not so much.
Gravity did at least attempt, very slightly, to explain a little bit of the science. In particular, one might view an orbiting spacecraft as gliding very slowly around, but it's actually moving very, very, fast with enormous momentum, so if you're hanging off the side by one hand and something knocks into you, the consequences are catastrophic
Posted by Curiosity killed ... (# 11770) on
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Apparently there's a lot of very good science in Gravity. One of the astronauts interviewed said that the space walk was very good, and the set up inside Soyuz and a number of other things were brilliant. There are some glaring errors - there's a fun 20 errors site around that lists them, but some are dramatic devices.
Posted by Palimpsest (# 16772) on
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I agree that Nebraska was wonderful. I took a friend of mine who grew up in Nebraska to see it. In the scene where the men are all watching sports on television while the women are in the kitchen after a perfunctory inquiry on how long the drive took, my friend was clenching his hands in frustration. I asked him about it afterwards and he said, "That's exactly what people are like there." He later went again with his parents when they came out to visit him here in Seattle and he said they thought it was depressingly realistic. I never lived in that territory, but I recognize a region where people are just getting by without much hope of a better future.
Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on
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Another movie awards week made me want to see was "Captain Phillips." Here's why-- in every clip they showed, I was aware that Tom Hanks was n the scene, but I could not take my eyes off of Barkhad Abdi. He commanded the screen. I really want to see what he did to earn his Supporting Actor nomination.
Posted by leo (# 1458) on
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Teenage Cavemen - post-apocalyptic, a group of survivors are led by an older man with messianic pretensions until they break free.
Posted by Palimpsest (# 16772) on
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This is a slight tangent.
There's a moving essay in the New York Times on how the writer was reaching my autistic son through Disney
(Paywall after a limited number of articles each month).
Sometimes movies achieve higher purposes.
Posted by Hilda of Whitby (# 7341) on
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The movie I watched most recently was "Don Camillo". I had never heard of it until a Shipmate mentioned it.
In a word--wonderful!
It's the story of a priest in a small town in Italy. Don Camillo and the communist mayor, Peppone, are constantly butting heads. They respect each other as people but cannot stand the other's politics.
Don C. grumbles to a life-sized crucifix of Christ in the church--it made me think of Tevye's conversations with God in "Fiddler on the Roof". Jesus' answers to Don C. are great.
If you haven't seen it, I highly recommend it. It's charming, funny, and touching, and gives an interesting look at post-WWIII Italian politics.
I liked it tremendously. Many, many thanks to whoever on the Ship mentioned it.
Posted by Palimpsest (# 16772) on
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If you enjoyed "Don Camillo" you may enjoy the books. They've been translated and the first is "The Little World of Don Camillo". The writing certainly evokes the period.
Posted by Hedgehog (# 14125) on
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I just finished watching a DVD of Warning Shadows (1923)--although I believe it is viewable through You Tube.
This silent film from Germany was done at a time when filmmakers were really exploring what could be done with the camera and light, shadow, mirrors and tints. In addition, silent film makers were very much focused on the images and tried to limit the use of intertitles (title cards) to explain the action because the word cards interrupt the visuals. Warning Shadows is the ultimate party trick: Apart from the very beginning when we are introduced to the characters (and the actors names), the remainder of the film is done entirely without title cards! The whole story is told purely through images. The movie runs 85 minutes, so it is quite feat!
The story is of a man who is dangerously jealous of his flirtatious wife--and his suspicions of her fidelity are not entirely groundless. He gives a dinner party where four of her male admirers are present. An itinerant entertainer comes by to present a shadow play for them (using hand shadows and props to cast silhouettes on to the wall). The shadow play brings the underlying tensions of the group to the fore.
The use of light and shadow in this film is remarkable. It is not too much to say that the character's shadows are almost characters in themselves. Fritz Kortner plays the husband and effectively conveys the mental torment his jealousy causes him. Ruth Weyher is the wife and is quite lovely and entrancing. A visually impressive and memorable film.
Posted by Palimpsest (# 16772) on
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I just saw "Like Father Like Son".
It's the story of two Japanese families who find out that their 6 year old sons were switched at birth. It explores the tensions as the families try to decide what to do about switching sons or not. I really enjoyed it.
Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on
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Hedgehog, that sounds amazing.
Palimpsest-- is this a fictional film, or is it a documentary? Either way sounds interesting.
Posted by Ariel (# 58) on
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Originally posted by Palimpsest:
This is a slight tangent.
There's a moving essay in the New York Times on how the writer was reaching my autistic son through Disney
(Paywall after a limited number of articles each month).
Sometimes movies achieve higher purposes.
That is a hell of an article. Thanks for posting it. </tangent>
Posted by Hilda of Whitby (# 7341) on
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Originally posted by Palimpsest:
If you enjoyed "Don Camillo" you may enjoy the books. They've been translated and the first is "The Little World of Don Camillo". The writing certainly evokes the period.
Thanks! I'll look for them at the library.
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As far as I know, "Like Father Like Son" is a fictional film. It really is focused on the people involved and how they try to deal with a difficult situation.
It also gives a interesting look into domestic family life in Japan as it contrasts a successful businessman and his wife and son with a less ambitious and larger family.
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Posted by leo (# 1458) on
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One Day - new graduates, a man and woman, who are complete opposites, meet every year on the same day. Though they both marry, they realise, too late, that they love one another.
also 'Habemus papam' about a newly elected pope who runs away.
Posted by Chorister (# 473) on
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Two surprisingly similar films - 'Untouchable', a French film, with subtitles, about the friendship between a disabled man and his carer; 'The Way', about a man walking the Camino to Santiago de Compostela, with his dead son's ashes. They are similar in that difficult issues are dealt with using gentle, but sensitive humour; the people in both films are very human.
Posted by Sir Kevin (# 3492) on
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Originally posted by Chorister:
Two surprisingly similar films - 'Untouchable', a French film, with subtitles, about the friendship between a disabled man and his carer...
That sounds familiar: I'm sure we saw it at the cinema when it came out and liked it. There is a locally owned chain of cinemas and one of them specializes in foreign films and indie productions like Black Nativity.
Posted by Sir Kevin (# 3492) on
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Mr. Russel Crowe sent me a trailer for 'Noah': I am looking forward to it. It was a good Bible story and a great Bill Cosby comedy sketch.
Posted by JFH (# 14794) on
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I feel like I'm farting in the wrong cathedral here with the erudite, even recondite movies people have been posting of late, but I WILL see the Veronica Mars movie as soon as it is released in China. Wittiest TV show around in my view, together with the West Wing and possibly some other Sorkin projects. Don't you dare ruin it for me by saying "it sucks" or anything such - it's been too long a wait.
Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on
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Hey, Sorkin is a hell of a writer! He was on the "Six Feet Under" team, right? And I have heard nothing but raves about Veronica Mars (the show.)
Posted by Curiosity killed ... (# 11770) on
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'sokay JFH - my current cinema trips are to films chosen by a 14 year old boy. In the last three weeks I have watched: Gravity (my choice), Non-Stop and Need for Speed. Need for Speed was better than I expected, but I went in with very low expectations.
Posted by Palimpsest (# 16772) on
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There's an article in this weeks New Yorker about the making of "Noah". It does make it seem like a violent fantasy which may not please those who are expecting a happy Bible story.
Posted by Curiosity killed ... (# 11770) on
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I've seen the trailers for Noah. The way that one is trailed I wondered if it was going to be on my future viewing list, assuming it's a U / PG / 12, but its release date is a bit late for this half term, and hopefully said teenage boy will be fit to take part in sports next half term.
Posted by Lyda*Rose (# 4544) on
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Originally posted by Palimpsest:
There's an article in this weeks New Yorker about the making of "Noah". It does make it seem like a violent fantasy which may not please those who are expecting a happy Bible story.
It makes more sense than the "happy Bible story" versions. All those cute ark and animal toys and picture books make me want to puke seeing that they totally ignore the genocide going on outside the boat.
Posted by orfeo (# 13878) on
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I saw 12 Years A Slave last weekend.
And now I want to see other films directed by Steve McQueen. Because that man definitely knows what he's doing. A beautiful film, at the same time as being a horrible one.
Posted by Hilda of Whitby (# 7341) on
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Originally posted by Palimpsest:
If you enjoyed "Don Camillo" you may enjoy the books. They've been translated and the first is "The Little World of Don Camillo". The writing certainly evokes the period.
Thanks very much. I've requested the Don Camillo Omnibus from the library.
I just re-watched the first Don C. movie with my DH, who was out of town when I watched the movie the first time. DH really liked it and I enjoyed watching it again.
More about movies--I'll be going to see "The Lunchbox" on Tuesday with a friend. I'd also like to see "The Grand Budapest Hotel".
Posted by Palimpsest (# 16772) on
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To recommend a film I hopefully will see this week if my friend doesn't keep postponing....
If you have a teenage boy in tow, you might like to see Miyazaki's latest (and perhaps last) animated film "The Wind Rises" about the a boy who grows up to be the airplane designer who designed the Japanese Zero.
Posted by Curiosity killed ... (# 11770) on
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Oooh, The Wind Rises sounds amazing - not released here until May 9, although available to see before then from April 23 at a specific cinema in London.
<tangent> I really, really hope I'll have got him doing some sport instead by then. This cinema going is a stop gap replacement for ice skating as he managed to injure a knee </tangent>
Posted by Lyda*Rose (# 4544) on
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I just saw an Italian film called Honey about a young woman working in the underground euthanasia trade. It is a very fine character study of her in a period of change in her life as she becomes more aware of the forces that are driving her life.
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Well, I did see "The Wind Rises" and it is amazing. It does cover a lot of tragedy in hard times.
It also does focus on the engineer. It's the first time I've seen a slide rule animated quite so lovingly.
Posted by Kaplan Corday (# 16119) on
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Just saw Hannah Arendt, which focuses on the reaction in the Jewish community to her coverage of the 1961 Eichmann trial and the effect which the furore had on her personally.
There are also flashbacks to her pre-war affair with Martin Heidegger, who later collaborated with the Nazis.
It was sound, factual and competent,but curiously flat.
The most engaging and moving part of the film was the original footage of the trial.
Posted by Chorister (# 473) on
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'Summer in February' a 'true' story based on a group of artists in Lamorna, Cornwall, in the early 20th century. Apart from beautiful scenery and period footage, it was interesting to tie it in to the exhibition held in the same venue of one of the artists featured in the film.
But the acting at times was rather unconvincing (featured 'Matthew' from Downton Abbey) and the storyline, had it not been based on a true story, appeared rather unbelievable. As someone behind me said at the end, 'Why on earth did they get married then?!'
Posted by jrw (# 18045) on
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'Fish Story', a Japanese film, (though not the easiest of films to get into) is one I would recommend.
Posted by infinite_monkey (# 11333) on
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Originally posted by Palimpsest:
To recommend a film I hopefully will see this week if my friend doesn't keep postponing....
If you have a teenage boy in tow, you might like to see Miyazaki's latest (and perhaps last) animated film "The Wind Rises" about the a boy who grows up to be the airplane designer who designed the Japanese Zero.
No teenage boy required: I and another 30-something woman saw it a couple weeks back and were thoroughly impressed. It's a really unique, poignant film, and very thought-provoking. Not at all what one thinks of when one thinks 'animated movie', and a departure from much of Miyazaki's prior work. I highly recommend it.
Posted by Palimpsest (# 16772) on
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One of the things about the animation in "The Wind Rises" is that in the few scenes where there isn't a human character, I had trouble remembering it was animated. It wasn't hyper-realistic, but the theme was so mature.
It's not a complete departure from his earlier work. In some ways it reminded me of his earlier film about fantasy raccoons Pom Poko and the younger sister reminds me of the younger sister in "My Neighbor Totoro".
Posted by ArachnidinElmet (# 17346) on
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It's not a complete departure from his earlier work. In some ways it reminded me of his earlier film about fantasy raccoons Pom Poko and the younger sister reminds me of the younger sister in "My Neighbor Totoro".
The animation in Pom Poko is stunning. I remember catching it on tv by accident on the way to do something else. I had to just sit down and watch, mesmerised by the parade of animals scene. Beautiful.
Posted by orfeo (# 13878) on
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I'm watching Casablanca for the first time right now. I had no idea there were so many excellent one-liners.
Posted by Palimpsest (# 16772) on
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Many years ago a friend of mine went to a showing of Casablanca at a run down revival theater in Cambridge Mass. where it was a perennial favorite. The theater management announced that there were technical problems which meant that the sound could not be played. Fortunately there were enough male and female viewers present who had seen it enough times to recite the lines from memory while the silent film unrolled.
Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on
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That sounds like an amazing night.
Posted by Eigon (# 4917) on
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I finally got to see Thor: The Dark World, which was a lot of fun - lots of gorgeous Loki scenes to look at, and some good jokes, like Thor having to get the Tube to get back to the big battle. And I have to admit that, when Malekith the Dark Elf landed his spaceship in the middle of Greenwich, my first thought was "Save the Meantime brewery!"
The movie also passes the Beschdel Test easily, with women talking to each other about serious things, and though some people have criticized the death of Frigga I think that, in this case, it really was the only way of being sure that Thor and Loki would work together.
Posted by Stetson (# 9597) on
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I watched The Purge the other night.
Not as bad as some seemed to think. It's well-constructed(some nice camera work etc) and raises some interesting social issues, including about the class system.
But, in the end, pretty much just an elongated riff on The Lottery, looking somewhat more ludicrous as a result of being stretched out for a couple of hours. You can't help but muse about the back story to the dystopia, like, how did things ever get this way?
"Okay, if elected, I promise to legalize murder for one night a year. Now, I know, I know, sounds crazy, but hear me out."
Posted by Porridge (# 15405) on
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Originally posted by Palimpsest:
Many years ago a friend of mine went to a showing of Casablanca at a run down revival theater in Cambridge Mass. where it was a perennial favorite.
Sadly, the Brattle St. Cinema has closed.
Posted by Palimpsest (# 16772) on
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Originally posted by Porridge:
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Originally posted by Palimpsest:
Many years ago a friend of mine went to a showing of Casablanca at a run down revival theater in Cambridge Mass. where it was a perennial favorite.
Sadly, the Brattle St. Cinema has closed.
The sound failure happened at the Harvard Square Theatre although most of the viewers had probably seen the many showings at the Brattle St. Cinema. Another odd event was watching the movie of Margaret Atwood's "The Handmaid's Tale" which was set in a future dystopia which included the building of the Brattle Cinema.
Posted by Palimpsest (# 16772) on
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I saw a rebroadcast of the National Theater Live production of War Horse. This is probably old news in England.
It's a dazzling piece of theater, puppetry and dance. The horse puppets become real almost instantly.
It is a tearjerker and in some ways limited by the Boy and his Horse children's story. It is interesting that there are not really villains.. They talked about the show playing in France, Germany, China and Japan.
They were changing the marquee for the next Movie at the theater. It's "The Grand Budapest Hotel". Another look at pre war Europe. I'm looking forward to it although it may be too Wes Anderson cute. I think I need to go re-watch Paths of Glory.
Posted by Kaplan Corday (# 16119) on
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Monuments Men has an impressive cast (Damon, Blanchett, Murray, Goodman, Bonneville, Clooney) and a wonderful plot line ( a true story of attempts to rescue art treasures from the Nazis) but somehow it doesn’t work.
You can see what you should be responding to, such as the emergence of esprit de corps amongst the team members, and the redemption of the Bonneville character’s wasted life by his death at the hands of Nazi barbarians, but it is all so obvious that you register it rather than feel it.
The real stars of the film are the art works themselves.
This hardened old evangelical iconoclast and Zwinglian must admit to shedding a tear at the portrayal of the van Eyk brothers’ Ghent altar piece.
Posted by leo (# 1458) on
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Gypsy 83 - typical road movie.
Posted by JoannaP (# 4493) on
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At the week-end we watched Comedy of Terrors, which was glorious; Vincent Price, Peter Lorre and Boris Karloff are rather inept undertakers and Basil Rathbone a reluctant client. I was a bit dubious, not having enjoyed Dr Phibes that much, but it was a joy.
Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on
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I loved that movie. "He is not dead, but sleepeth..."
Posted by leo (# 1458) on
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Seven Days to Noon - a 'mad professor' decides that his life's work in nuclear weapons might be out to bad use so he blackmails the prime minister - he will destroy London if Britain does not unilaterally disarm.
Set in 1950 with lots of shots of the london mof the time.
Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on
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Ever catch part of a movie and spnd forever wondering what is was, and then run across it again?
I am now watching My Life Without Me-- starring phenomenal Canadian actor/ director Sarah Polley. If you are not familiar with Polley, do yourself a big favor and acquaint yourself. I think she is one of the smartest, sharpest artists out there.
Polley plays a very young mother who has just learned she has about two months to live-- and her decision to make the most of the time she has left. Not a new idea, but the intelligence and sensitivity Polley gives to the role makes it almost unbearably beautiful.
[ 05. April 2014, 20:08: Message edited by: Kelly Alves ]
Posted by Eutychus (# 3081) on
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Originally posted by Chorister:
Two surprisingly similar films - 'Untouchable', a French film, with subtitles, about the friendship between a disabled man and his carer
A must.
Just taken back Ridley Scott's Counselor. Not for the faint-hearted. Would not watch again
Posted by Palimpsest (# 16772) on
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Mickey Rooney died this Sunday at the age of 93 after a long career of starring in movies. He may have been the last silent movie star still working this year.
Posted by Sir Kevin (# 3492) on
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Likely he is! He was the star of the first Annie I worked on as a musical. Unfortunately I never met him, though I did meet Joanne Worley, his co-star (and later, on another production, MacKenzie Phillips.)
I miss him - I really enjoyed his old Andy Hardy films with Judy Garland as his girlfriend!
Posted by Timothy the Obscure (# 292) on
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I just watched Cloud Atlas on DVD (missed it in the theaters) and it's made it into my all-time Top Ten, possibly booting Annie Hall to number 11, though I haven't really worked out the exact rankings yet...
Posted by Palimpsest (# 16772) on
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I saw "The Hotel Grand Budapest" today and enjoyed it immensely. It continues in Wes Anderson's mannered style with a much darker tone prior to World War 2.
I enjoyed it a great deal including the extensive end credits.
Posted by Lyda*Rose (# 4544) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Palimpsest:
I saw "The Hotel Grand Budapest" today and enjoyed it immensely. It continues in Wes Anderson's mannered style with a much darker tone prior to World War 2.
I enjoyed it a great deal including the extensive end credits.
Ditto! A wonderful film!
Posted by Sir Kevin (# 3492) on
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We finally saw NOAH yesterday, nearly two months after Mr. Crowe sent me a trailer for the film. It was really quite a tour-de-force for the actors (and the SFX were not bad either!)
Were I to be an Academy voter, I would have to think long and hard about putting Emma Watson up for best supporting actress: she's come a long way since playing Hermione Granger!
It's not quite the same story as in my grandmother's bible, but it was nonetheless well done. Even though we knew how it was going to come out, there was a bit of suspense anyway.
Posted by Stetson (# 9597) on
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I watched Don Jon, about a guy who's addicted to p0rn and the effect that has on his romantic relationships. Interesting to see a romantic drama with pornogrpahy as a central plot point, though I'd imagine that probably is an issue for many couples these days.
Both Joseph Gordon-Levitt and(especially) Scarlett Johannson seemed to be playing against type, fairly successfully. Though there was perhaps something a little over-the-top about the portrayal of a blue-collar New Jersey Italian family(even to the point of having uber-greaser Tony Danza playing the dad).
Posted by Eutychus (# 3081) on
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Another vote for Noah. Emma Watson deserves an Oscar for her performance. It's a shame Peter Jackson seems to have meddled with the script - I preferred the book - and thrown in a few Ents, but worth seeing. Not for the faint-hearted or inerrantists though.
Posted by Doc Tor (# 9748) on
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I've been asked to take part in the Time Out 100 Best SF films poll. I have to give them my top 10, and why - I was wondering what you folk would pick, before I reveal mine?
Posted by Palimpsest (# 16772) on
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I don't take Top Ten or Best of very seriously. My choices are unstable. Off the top of my head, in no particular order and allowing Fantasy;
2001
Star Wars Episode 4
Nosferatu
Thief of Baghdad
Forbidden Planet
Lord of the Rings
Dark Star
Solaris
Paprika
Frankenstein
[ 16. April 2014, 02:00: Message edited by: Palimpsest ]
Posted by Eutychus (# 3081) on
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Pure Sci-Fi might begin something like (in no order)
2001
Star Wars Episode 4
The Fifth Element
Moon
The Matrix
Apollo 13 (not sure if that qualifies)
a couple that I haven't seen but that by all accounts should be in there:
Blade Runner
Metropolis
And since I'm running out of nominees in pure SF, maybe I can add a couple of series to make 10:
Äkta människor (Real Humans) - I've just done some interpreting for the scriptwriter and am now hooked
The 4400 (series 1)
Posted by Barnabas62 (# 9110) on
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Starship Troopers (despite the fascism!)
The Matrix
The Day of the Triffids
Forbidden Planet
Terminator
Star Wars (Ep IV i.e the first)
Total Recall
2001
The Day the Earth Stood Still (orginal, with Michael Rennie)
Bicentennial Man
(again not in any particular order.)
Not sure if all of them count as pure SF
I've been hoping for a full length movie of any Ursula le Guin classic (Left hand of Darkness, Lathe of Heaven, The Dispossessed, any would do. Probably hard to pull off and be faithful to the subtleties of the books. I think LHOD may be in production.
Also, apparently, "Foundation" is being turned into a movie.
Posted by Sir Kevin (# 3492) on
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Clockwork Orange would be number one, followed by Godzilla vs. Mothra and Nosferatu.
Dunno what the next ten would be, but 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea should be also near the top of the list!
Watch this space, I may think of some more...
Posted by Doc Tor (# 9748) on
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I rattled through a list last night. Got up to 22 titles, which needs whittling down today...
Posted by Dafyd (# 5549) on
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Do superhero films count?
Posted by Ariel (# 58) on
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If you'd like to start a Top Ten, or Top 100 of your own favourite films, the Circus would probably be a good place for that.
Also, Doc Tor might get more answers to his question on a thread that specifically asked for sci-fi films. I think there'd be a fair amount of interest in it, and we could keep this one for what people have seen lately.
Cheers
Ariel
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on
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I watched The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug tonight - it is a bit not to my taste - all very swashbuckling but no real content. Neither was it much like the book.
1 or 2 stars out of 5.
Posted by Ariel (# 58) on
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Thank you for saying that. I'm halfway through it, and keep hoping it will improve. I bought it because I really enjoyed the first DVD of "The Hobbit", but don't think the second part is as good.
I don't remember Legolas in the book version, let alone his having an unrequited crush on a female elf.
[ 16. April 2014, 17:46: Message edited by: Ariel ]
Posted by Ariel (# 58) on
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Finished watching "The Desolation of Smaug" now and felt disappointed. It's almost entirely fighting, and I agree it's short on plot. I just hope Part 3 is an improvement. The scenes with Smaug went on long enough to become boring, and I ended up fast-forwarding some of them. "I am a wonderful dragon, you cannot escape Me" being the gist of the next half hour. Or at least, it felt like a long time.
Posted by Alex Cockell (# 7487) on
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Hmm - so an idea would be to wait till The hobbit in its entirety is on Netflix or Channel 4?
Posted by lilBuddha (# 14333) on
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Originally posted by Ariel:
I just hope Part 3 is an improvement.
Yeah, cause that will happen. Jackson will have completely revised his style and, instead of adding non-existant content, pulling material from other Tolkien sources, rewriting Middle-Earth history and extending the time structure, he will keep the film true to the book. So part 3* will be about 1/2 hour long, including titles, credits, trailers and time to go to the ladies and by popcorn.
I am keeping hope low in hopes that hope will not be dashed.
*There are ~50 pages left at the point of the movie's end.
[ 18. April 2014, 16:46: Message edited by: lilBuddha ]
Posted by lilBuddha (# 14333) on
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Originally posted by Alex Cockell:
Hmm - so an idea would be to wait till The hobbit in its entirety is on Netflix or Channel 4?
Gods no! The bad would be overwhelming in such a concentrated dose. The year between releases gives time to forget and just remember the good.
Posted by Ariel (# 58) on
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quote:
Originally posted by lilBuddha:
*There are ~50 pages left at the point of the movie's end.
Ah, right. Well, there'll be time for a few more fights then. The newly recovered Kili will have to fight Legolas for Tauriel. He'll lose, and the annoyed Tauriel will fight Legolas. At this point, Azog the Destroyer will appear with a bunch of Orcs. Thranduil will arrive, and join in the punch-up. Thorin will fight Bilbo for the Arkenstone. Bilbo will go over to the Lakemen (who capture him in a fight) and they fight Thorin for the Arkenstone. Smaug fights everybody while Bard is fighting Orcs and Thranduil. Gandalf appears, and slays the dragon, defeats the Orcs with the aid of the Eagles, recovers the Arkenstone, frees Bilbo, and is guest of honour at Tauriel and Thranduil's wedding.
(All goes well until some of Gandalf's fireworks are let off halfway through the ceremony by two very youthful hobbits, and a few more fights break out.)
Posted by Sir Kevin (# 3492) on
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We might give it a miss, then, though the Mrs. has a passing interest in it....
Posted by fletcher christian (# 13919) on
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The Hobbit is three overwrought movies that really should have been one movie, and that's why it's so disappointing. Like others, I have found large sections of it to be nothing more than tedious filler. Pity really, as the source material is gold.
Posted by lilBuddha (# 14333) on
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I really hate to think what would have happened to LOTR if The Hobbit had been made first.
Posted by Eutychus (# 3081) on
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Originally posted by fletcher christian:
the source material is gold.
Mithril, surely?
So glad I stopped watching after Hobbit 1.
Posted by Pine Marten (# 11068) on
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Originally posted by Ariel:
Finished watching "The Desolation of Smaug" now and felt disappointed. It's almost entirely fighting, and I agree it's short on plot. I just hope Part 3 is an improvement. The scenes with Smaug went on long enough to become boring, and I ended up fast-forwarding some of them. "I am a wonderful dragon, you cannot escape Me" being the gist of the next half hour. Or at least, it felt like a long time.
I didn't mind it actually, and I liked the first Hobbit film. I know nothing about the story, and was bored silly by the LotR films (apart from Sean Bean and other nice elements, oh and Andy Serkis). Martin Freeman is good, but I am shallow enough to mainly watch for the sake of Richard Armitage and Aidan Turner
... oh, be still, my beating heart, and please don't die, Kili...!
My son, however, thought it fairly crap.
Posted by Brenda Clough (# 18061) on
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It is notoriously difficult to make the middle volume or movie good. The first one out the gate has all the thrill of discovery and conflict, and the third always has the pleasures of catharsis and winding-up of loose ends. The middle's job is mainly to connect the beginning and the end, and so is very difficult to make free-standing.
In other words, we won't be able to judge the second movie until the third is out.
Posted by Chorister (# 473) on
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Just been to see 'Henry V' (Laurence Olivier), a perfect film for St. George's Day. And also the 450th Anniversary of Shakespeare's birth.
Posted by Pine Marten (# 11068) on
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[pedant alert]
Actually we don't know the exact day Shakespeare was born, but he was baptised on 26th April 1564, and he most definitely died on 23rd April 1616, so it's near enough
...and it's a fine film with which to celebrate!
[/pedant alert]
Posted by Ian Climacus (# 944) on
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After recently going through a MOOC on Scandinavian cinema [did no assignments/quizzes...merely enjoyed the lectures] I watched Carl Th Dreyer's 1928 silent movie The Passion of Joan of Arc which I was thought was wonderfully directed and had amazing performances, particularly Maria Falconetti's Joan.
I followed it up with A Hijacking [Kapringen -- with 3 actors from Borgen!] which was a very interesting look at the hijacking of a ship from the alternate perspectives of the cook on the ship and the CEO of the shipping company who handled negotiations. I found it an emotional ride which I suppose is the sign of a good film.
I also saw The Grand Budapest Hotel recently and loved it: and, yes, the few who stayed behind through credits were rewarded.
[ 03. May 2014, 11:21: Message edited by: Ian Climacus ]
Posted by Pine Marten (# 11068) on
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Oh, I've just ordered a copy of The Passion of Joan of Arc! I'm looking forward to seeing it at last.
Tomorrow we're off to our local Odeon to see Pompeii - yes, I know, but I'm in the mood for an enjoyable and trashy disaster movie, as the reviews put it
!
Posted by Robert Armin (# 182) on
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Last night I finally watched Hobbit 2 and have to agree with all that's been said so far. In 1 I didn't mind the extra material, but here it really felt like padding. All the stuff in Laketown (especially Stephen Fry in a ginger wig) needed cutting, as did Smaug's never ending chasing of the dwarves. In addition, I've always pronounced the dragon's name Sm-org, rather then Sm-owg; I have absolutely no authority for this at all, but it's another reason for feeling fed up with the film.
Posted by Ariel (# 58) on
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Yes, I'm regretting having bought the DVD now because I don't think I'll watch it again. The first was fun, and promising, and the extra material fitted well; the second was just too drawn out.
Posted by Pine Marten (# 11068) on
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Well, I enjoyed Pompeii, it was very entertaining without me having to think about any deep meaningful messages. The fight scenes were quite shamelessly lifted from Gladiator, but it was all done with a lot of spirit and Kit Harington (what a fabulously Elizabethan name
) is fetchingly eye-candy and has impressive abs.
There was a trailer for the next X-Men film, so I reckon that's our next outing to the Odeon
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Posted by Palimpsest (# 16772) on
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The Seattle International Film Festival starts this month and I have indulged in a pass this year despite not working.
This week started press Previews; films start tomorrow.
The Congress; a SF Film based on loosely on Stanislas Lem about an actress who negotiates a contract to be scanned and only appear as a digital persona. It's half live and half animated.
Ida is a Polish film about an orphan novice who is told to visit her distant aunt before taking vows. She finds out she is from a Jewish family. It's a depressing but moving film. Shot in Black and White with a lot of academy format shooting.
Hellion, a story about a 15 year old going wrong in a family with alcoholic father widower. The boy was very well acted. Directed by and staring Aaron Paul of Breaking Bad fame.
Belle and Sebastian. A French family film about a cute small boy and a cute large dog in the Alps during WWII who help Jewish refugees to escape.
The Sunfish, about a Danish fisherman who is struggling to deal with quotas, financial failure and a romance with a marine biologist.
Beyond the Brick, A documentary about Lego which is amusing but corporate.
Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on
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Film nerds-- just made this observation on Facebook, thought I would share it with you all:
I recently saw Oh Brother Where Art Thou (2000) and am now watching Kill Bill Vol 2.(2004)
Now watching True Grit (2010) and last night saw Django Unchained.(2012)
I think Tarantino really wishes he was a Coen, because Seeing the movies in that order-- man, he ripped off a lot.
and later:
"Ill never be a Coen so I 'll vent my frustration by turning half my characters to hamburger!!"
Posted by Palimpsest (# 16772) on
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I don't think I'd accuse Tarantino of ripping off only one film director.
Saw Polanski's new film Venus with Furs today. It suffered a bit by being a stage play opened up by shooting it in a theater, but had some good moments.
Saw the premiere of the new John Ridley film about Jimi Hendrix; Jimi: all is by my side.
It is about his early days before the Monterey Pop Festival, focusing on the women he was involved with. The acting was phenomenal. It did not do a huge number of his hits, although the replica of has performance of Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Heart Club Band was pretty amazing.
Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on
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Originally posted by Palimpsest:
I don't think I'd accuse Tarantino of ripping off only one film director.
Yeah, there's his spaghetti western homages, and his Brian de Palma rip off shots, but when I saw Django I just got this mental image of Tarantino watching True Grit while downing Jack Daniels and slurring "Pfeh, Maddie Ross is a [female pejorative used to describe weakness.]" And turning her into a very angry Jamie Foxx.
Posted by Sir Kevin (# 3492) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
....watching True Grit (2010)
Who would have bothered to remake it?! It was my favorite John Wayne film after The Shootist!
Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on
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The coen Brother remade it.
IMO it was very, very, very good. I watched it three times in one weekend.
Posted by Sir Kevin (# 3492) on
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Gotta see that film of Hendrix: my little brother claims to have seen him in person, but that story is likely apocryphal: he would have had to be about 12!
I did actually meet Janis Joplin in 1069 when I was 15 at the Rose Bowl where the late Frank Zappa had one of her opening acts....
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on
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Good grief, you must be older than PeteC!!
Posted by lilBuddha (# 14333) on
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Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
The coen Brother remade it.
IMO it was very, very, very good. I watched it three times in one weekend.
It was awesome. Only complaint is Jeff Bridges should have waited until his jaws were unwired before beginning shooting.
Palimpsest,
This is no indictment against you, but I will watch no film by Polanski.
Ever.
Typically I do not give a toss, re personal lives, but in his case I make the exception.
Posted by Palimpsest (# 16772) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
The coen Brother remade it.
IMO it was very, very, very good. I watched it three times in one weekend.
The remake was awesome. The actors were good but the cinematography was stunning.
Posted by Palimpsest (# 16772) on
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Well today I saw "The Fault is in our stars" based on a novel about a teenage girl with cancer who falls in love with a boy at a cancer survivers group. With Shallene Woodley, Ansel Elgort and Laura Dern as the mother. A three hankerchief movie. The audience had a gaggle of young teenage girls who loved it.
The Skeleton Twins was the second movie about a gay man who goes home to New York after a failed suicide attempt to stay with his sister and visit the teacher he had an affair with while in high school. A weird, dark and funny film.
Posted by Palimpsest (# 16772) on
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Today I saw Monsoon Shoutout, an Indian Police Bullet Ballet with a large dose of art film technique attached.
I also saw "Trust Me", a film starring, written and directed by Clark Gregg. It is about a struggling Hollywood agent who is representing a child star. It was very funny and quite good.
Finally, I saw Tracks, a chronicle of a woman who walked from Alice Springs to the Indian Ocean with Camels. Some stunning scenery in a harsh place.
Posted by Palimpsest (# 16772) on
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I'm not going to clutter this thread with a lot more movies I'm seeing at the film festival ( 3 today), but I will mention one that I didn't go to.
The director of the Lego Brickumentary has another documentary at the festival called "Fight Church". Apparently it's about underground fight clubs in churches where church members fight each other. And you thought that your parish had rough meetings.
Posted by Kaplan Corday (# 16119) on
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Originally posted by Sir Kevin:
I did actually meet Janis Joplin in 1069 when I was 15 .
It is not certain whether Origen believed in metempsychosis, but it sounds as if you do.
Posted by Kaplan Corday (# 16119) on
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Saw Belle the other night - a few old familiar faces amongst the actors, but generally worthy and dull.
Also, the crowd and street scenes failed to convey the filth, disease, poverty, malnutrition, violence and deformity which would have characterised eighteenth century England.
Posted by aunt jane (# 10139) on
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I don't know whether anyone has mentioned Divergent yet. I thought it the best film I had seen in ages, challenging storyline, exciting scenes, what more can one ask?
Posted by Palimpsest (# 16772) on
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I did see a movie tonight that might be of interest to some here.
It's called "My last year with the nuns" and it's a memoir taken from a stage monologue. The author and star talks about his life in 1967 as an 8th grader in Catholic school in the then Catholic neighborhood of Seattle's Capital Hill. It was quite funny and sad where it explores bullying, racism and homophobia.
Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on
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Do Cable miniseries count as movies?
I decided to re-watch the excellently produced HBO series, "John Adams." I highly recommend netflixing it, especially to y'all Britmates, as it is a great story about a simple, good man and an unsung hero in the American Revolution. Paul Giamatti stars, and Laura Linney almost steals the show as Adams's strong right arm, his wife Abigail.
what drove me to recommend this was one scene that gripped me-- in it, John Adams is received by King George III as the first ambassador of the new nation of the USA. I have seen this series several times, and this scene has always moved me. The actor portraying George is particularly impressive-- he has all of five minutes of screen time, and his quiet dignity and graciousness dominates the screen. The guy had tears in his eyes through most of the scene.
Just to reference other works he may have been in before I wrote this review, I looked the actor up on IMDB and-- hot damn, It's Rev. It's Tom Hollander. ![[Overused]](graemlins/notworthy.gif)
[ 07. June 2014, 05:02: Message edited by: Kelly Alves ]
Posted by Curiosity killed ... (# 11770) on
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My recent film watching has been Tarzan, The Amazing Spiderman 2 and X-Men Days of Future Past, still with 14 year old teenage boy. He is getting more critical, had to be persuaded to watch X-Men but reckoned it was the best film he's seen recently - and that Spiderman wasn't a patch on this. I do agree with him - lots of very recognisable good actors in the X-Men, and fun action and effects compared to Spiderman. The good thing about Spiderman were the views of New York and the action sequences of Spiderman moving through the buildings.
[ 07. June 2014, 09:06: Message edited by: Curiosity killed ... ]
Posted by Palimpsest (# 16772) on
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I just saw the closing film of the film festival tonight, so I'll succumb to the temptation of making one more post on it.
The Seattle International Film Festival is a marathon; 25 days, 400 films. I saw about 65 much to my surprise. I was surprised that my votes for best film, actor and actresses actually aligned with the results.
The best film was "Boyhood" directed by Richard Linklater. It follows a boy in Texas from age 6 to age 18 when he's college bound. Ethan Hawke and Patricia Arquette play his parents. What makes the film unusual is that it was shot for 2 weeks a year for 12 years while the boy grows up. It has a lot of references to current music. The director said it was like shooting a period film in the current tense. There's a sense of getting to know the people being portrayed and while the boy is a little shaky at first he turns into a good actor.
Another great film was "Life Feels Good" which is a Polish film about a man growing up with Cerebal Palsy who was thought to be a vegtable. It's often easy for an actor to play a disabled person, but he did a pretty amazing job. The same actor was the romantic interest in "Ida" which is about a novice who is sent to meet her Jewish aunt before taking vows.
Tangerines was a film set in the Chechen-Georgia 1987 war where a few Estonians are trying to get one last crop from their settlement before fleeing back to Estonia.
The Disciple was a Finnish film about a 14 year old orphan in 1920 sent to a lonely island to assist an abusive Lighthouse Master
In order of disappearance is a Norwegian black comedy revenge film about a snow plow driver who decides to kill the gangster who killed his sun.
Once upon a time in Shanghai is a Kung Fu film set in 1930's Shanghai. It's very elegant with very little color, but the fact that all the evil villains are Japanese or stooges of the Japanese makes for a troubling reflection of modern tensions.
On a somewhat lighter note is "God Help The Girl", where three friends fall in love and start a band while singing the songs of Stuart Murdoch.
I'll stop now.
Posted by Sir Kevin (# 3492) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Palimpsest:
The best film was "Boyhood" directed by Richard Linklater. It follows a boy in Texas from age 6 to age 18 when he's college bound. Ethan Hawke and Patricia Arquette play his parents. What makes the film unusual is that it was shot for 2 weeks a year for 12 years while the boy grows up. It has a lot of references to current music. The director said it was like shooting a period film in the current tense. There's a sense of getting to know the people being portrayed and while the boy is a little shaky at first he turns into a good actor.
Reminds me more than a wee bit of the British documentary series "Seven Up" where the same people are profiled every seven years: I believe it is still going on!
Posted by leo (# 1458) on
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Yes it is and it still fascinates.
Posted by Palimpsest (# 16772) on
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Yes, this has some of the feeling of Seven Up. However it's a fictional story focusing on one extended family.
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on
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Wanting a completely no-demanding evening of nonsense, the other night I put on Carry On - Don't lose your Head - it really is dreadful but so dreadful it is almost good; I certainly enjoyed it - but it will be awhile before I watch it again.
I really must get a copy of Leslie Nielsen's Dracula, Dead and Loving It - equally appalling but fun.
Posted by Palimpsest (# 16772) on
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I saw another odd film yesterday that I missed during the film festival. It's called "Final Cut: Ladies and Gentlemen". It was made by a Hungarian filmmaker during the period of the unrest as it was leaving the Soviet control. He couldn't make a film so he edited tiny excerpts from 400 film classics in an odd fashion. To use a trailer example, John Travolta dancing to disco in Saturday Night Fever switches to a syncopated dance by Charlie Chaplin in The Gold Rush in time to the disco music.
It shows some interesting tropes and alternatives and it's a fun trivia quiz. What struck me was that the scoring used longer excerpts and it's amazing how powerful some of the film scores are.
About half the audience stayed to read the five minutes of credits which included the movie, director and stars for each cut zooming past.
This manages to get shown as an educational critical anthology in very limited venues like film festivals. It not only reminds you of great movies you've seen, but gives you another bunch you now want to see. It doesn't really work for me as a film though, you're too aware of the editing cleverness or trying to remember what the film clip is from.
Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on
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That sounds like a trip!
Posted by Brenda Clough (# 18061) on
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I saw EDGE OF TOMORROW the other day, an excellent summer SF blockbuster. I wrote a review.
Posted by jedijudy (# 333) on
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Three of us saw Maleficent yesterday. My 95 year old friend and I loved it. My other friend wasn't so keen on it because of the violence. She asked me if I would take my Granddaughter to see it with all that fighting, and I said I certainly would.
The story is a big twist on the old Sleeping Beauty cartoon so many of us know. I love this version! This is a story that I think should be shared with children and anyone who needs to have a lesson on "true love" and preconceived notions. And giving people a chance.
Posted by Alban (# 9047) on
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Recently watched (twice) What We Do in the Shadows which is a strange movie, not to everyone's tastes, but quite funny and thought provoking. It takes a look at vampires and life with a fresh set of eyes.
I am a little biased, because my grandmother is in it, but I think it's well worth a watch.
Posted by Curiosity killed ... (# 11770) on
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I saw Edge of Tomorrow yesterday. It was cleverly done, lots of playing with film tropes to create something interesting. And Tom Cruise starts weak and blustering rather than the clean cut hero he usually is. Nice seeing a really strong female role for Emily Blunt, although it still fails the Bechdel test, but that's partly because so few of the characters are named. The link is to an interesting article discussing the Bechdel test in this instance.
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This week I saw a videotaped version of Nathan Lane in the play "The Nance" which played in New York. It was a special show, but I think it will show up in the Public Broadcasting "Live from Lincoln Center" series later this summer.
It's about a homosexual actor in the 1930's who plays a sissy role in a Burlesque Show. He's a conservative who meets a younger man who wants a romantic relationship. The play mixes the burlesque show that he performs with the world while the authorities try to close the show. It captures a lot of the period flavor of show business and the underground gay subculture.
Technically the sound is a bit spotty but the show works well with an audience. Nathan Lane does a great job with both the Burlesque routines and the unhappy life off state.
Posted by Brenda Clough (# 18061) on
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There is a novel upon which EDGE OF TOMORROW is based -- I haven't read it. But the video-game aspect of the entire thing (constantly rebooting so that you can get to the next level) becomes much more clear.
Posted by Curiosity killed ... (# 11770) on
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If you've ever played computer games you don't need that particular idea (in Edge of Tomorrow) explaining - and going into it here would seriously get into spoiler territory. Apparently the book has the Emily Blunt character as male, which explains why it such a kickass role.
Posted by Sir Kevin (# 3492) on
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We finally saw the current X-Men (and women) blockbuster. It was awesome all the way through. It had a crew of 15,000 and a surprise ending for those of us who were intelligent enough to watch the entire credits. I counted six in our cinema at the local multiplex. I did not read the books but still enjoyed it immensely!
Posted by Curiosity killed ... (# 11770) on
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This week's movie was Three Days to Kill which I rated worst of all the films we've seen. Worse than the fairly stodgy Tarzan cartoon remake and worse than the Liam Neeson take on being an elder action hero in Non-Stop.
For a 12A (PG13 equivalent) the violence was horrific and overdone. I don't think disposal by decapitation by lift should be family viewing. There was supposed to be a comedic setting to this but it was so leaden no-one in the cinema laughed. Such scenes as his daughter calling, with a ring tone she added to the phone, interrupting a torture scene. And the schmalzy family back story contrasted against the level of violence was just horrible - a complete mismatch. The other disconnect came with Amber Heard's character which was just a cardboard cutout - not enough depth to count as wooden.
I like Kevin Costner and he can act, he was here, but I agree with the critic who said that this film made Waterworld look good.
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on
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Sticking with my recent oldies theme I've just watched Some Like It Hot - terribly dated, terribly politically incorrect over 50 years later but still some good performances.
3 stars out of 5.
eta: not Monroe's greatest performace but I reckon she is always worth watching.
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Posted by JoannaP (# 4493) on
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Originally posted by Welease Woderwick:
Sticking with my recent oldies theme I've just watched Some Like It Hot - terribly dated, terribly politically incorrect over 50 years later but still some good performances.
3 stars out of 5.
eta: not Monroe's greatest performace but I reckon she is always worth watching.
I don't disagree with anything that you have said (although 3 stars does seem rather niggardly) - and we will soon have the opportunity to watch it on a big screen
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on
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Afterwards I thought 3 stars was a bit mean, would 4 be fairer?
Posted by Palimpsest (# 16772) on
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I like the interaction between Marilyn and the others. And the end joke is hard to surpass for humor and a comment on the underlying panic.
Posted by Curiosity killed ... (# 11770) on
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This week's film was Transformers 4. Yes, I know. There are many, many films I would have preferred to watch. Rotten Tomatoes are scoring this at 19% compared to 3 Days to Kill at 29%. Personally I still dislike 3 Days to Kill more because at least Transformers felt fairly honest about what it was doing with genres, albeit very, very long.
I still like Edge of Tomorrow and X-men best of the recent films and Rotten Tomatoes are scoring them at 90% and 92% respectively. The only film that I really wanted to see was Gravity and that scores 97%.
One more film to go next week but looking at what's on I doubt I'll get to either Maleficent or How to Train Your Dragon 2.
Posted by Curiosity killed ... (# 11770) on
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OK, we didn't get Maleficent or How to Train Your Dragon 2 but we did go and see Dawn of the Planet of the Apes - amazing effects and story and I agree with the reviews that Andy Serkis did a fantastic job, but I came out feeling that it was a bit worthy - trying too hard to get the messages across without enough leaven.
It also felt as if it was setting the scene for the next one in the franchise.
According to the reviews it's going to go up against X-Men and Edge of Tomorrow for the sci-fi awards. Personally I preferred both of the others which had more humour in them.
Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on
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Originally posted by Palimpsest:
I like the interaction between Marilyn and the others. And the end joke is hard to surpass for humor and a comment on the underlying panic.
Wanna see Marilyn really demonstrate her acting cred? Check out a flick called Don't bother to Knock. She basically plays a psychotic Fatal attraction type widow-- who is left to babysit a little girl.
The amazing thing is that she keep her soft spoken vulnerability the whole time she is getting scarier and scarier.
Posted by Sparrow (# 2458) on
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Originally posted by Curiosity killed ...:
OK, we didn't get Maleficent or How to Train Your Dragon 2 but we did go and see Dawn of the Planet of the Apes - amazing effects and story and I agree with the reviews that Andy Serkis did a fantastic job, but I came out feeling that it was a bit worthy - trying too hard to get the messages across without enough leaven.
It also felt as if it was setting the scene for the next one in the franchise.
According to the reviews it's going to go up against X-Men and Edge of Tomorrow for the sci-fi awards. Personally I preferred both of the others which had more humour in them.
Went to see Dawn of the Planet of the Apes this evening with my partner - it was so dire we walked out. Boring, boring, boring.
Posted by Kaplan Corday (# 16119) on
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I can highly recommend The Lunch Box (which should be The Tiffin Tin!)which I saw last night.
It is very moving and understated
But talk about food porn - watching the heroine preparing Indian lunches, it was all I could do to refrain from running out of the cinema in search of a somosa.
It reminded me too, of the changes in India since we worked there, such as television culture (TV had barely been introduced when we were there) and the young fellow openly living with his girlfriend.
Posted by Latchkey Kid (# 12444) on
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Saw Calvary last week. A confronting film by the same director as The Guard.
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on
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I spent a while this afternoon watching Katherine Hepburn as Eleanor of Aquitaine in The Lion in Winter - some poor direction and camerawork but an exquisite script - Hepburn thoroughly deserved her Oscar for that performance.
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I watched Saving Mr Banks last night which has made me curious to know more about PLTravers. How did she get from scruffy rural Aussie to plum in mouth Brit?
Her reaction to Disneyland and a room full of Disney inspired soft toys is the same as mine. I think we might have got along! Still don't understand how Dick van Dyke and the American robin ended up in the film.
Posted by Sir Kevin (# 3492) on
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We saw "Get on up" yesterday which was partially ruined at the beginning by two dildos talking on their mobile phones. I failed in my effort to get them bodily removed from the cinema, but they finally found their manners and shut the hell up!
That said, it was a spectacular film, well-plotted and with superior acting. As I am a gentleman of a certain age, I remember Mr. Brown in the middle of his career. I would recommend this film to anybody who likes music!
We plan to see "Boyhood" next weekend. Sounds rather a lot like "Seven Up" which we have only seen excerpts of....
Posted by Palimpsest (# 16772) on
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I saw Boyhood for the second time this week. It holds up pretty well. There's a lot of what the director called reverse time travel in that the music is in the period but was current at the time of shooting.
Posted by Figbash (# 9048) on
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Originally posted by Welease Woderwick:
Afterwards I thought 3 stars was a bit mean, would 4 be fairer?
Well, it's not for nothing that the AFA voted it the greatest American comedy film of all time.
Of course much of the point is that the dated feel is deliberate, and all of the characters (with the possible exception of Daphne) are amazingly shallow and self-interested. Perhaps exploring that fact requires a certain amount of what would now be labelled as political incorrectness. Remember that in the seduction scene on the yacht, both characters are deliberately lying and using whatever assets they've got in order to try to snare the other. Who is worse, a gold-digger, or a man who deliberately manipulates a gold-digger into thinking that he has gold worth digging for?
Anyway, my movie is Holy Motors, an absolutely fascinating, if nearly impenetrable, recent French piece in which an anonymous man spends his day being driven round Paris to play out scenes of 'real people' doing 'real things', while making some outrageous in-jokes en route (e.g. Edith Scob donning her Les Yeux sans Visage mask and announcing that she's returning to her parents). It's quite excellent and, I think, has some interesting stuff to say about human existence, questioning whether we have continuous individual state, or are merely assemblages of loosely connected scenes. Well worth another watching or seven...
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We saw Get on up produced by Sir Michael Jagger and it was incredible! The cast was spot on.
Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on
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Originally posted by Figbash:
Anyway, my movie is Holy Motors, an absolutely fascinating, if nearly impenetrable, recent French piece in which an anonymous man spends his day being driven round Paris to play out scenes of 'real people' doing 'real things', while making some outrageous in-jokes en route (e.g. Edith Scob donning her Les Yeux sans Visage mask and announcing that she's returning to her parents). It's quite excellent and, I think, has some interesting stuff to say about human existence, questioning whether we have continuous individual state, or are merely assemblages of loosely connected scenes. Well worth another watching or seven...
OOOO! OOOO! OOO! Sounds just up my alley!
I also really want to see Les Yeux sans Visage. I just read about it.
Posted by Figbash (# 9048) on
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OOOO! OOOO! OOO! Sounds just up my alley!
I also really want to see Les Yeux sans Visage. I just read about it.
My work here is done
Franjou's films on the whole are a joy: coming from the world of industrial documentary, he has a whole other approach. Two others to look up are Judex (loosely inspired by Louis Feuillade's very early silent serial of the same name) which mixes amazing cinematography, ravishing set design and a quite insane plot to produce what is possibly the best superhero movie ever; and Les Nuits Rouges which goes even further into delirium, including mysterious conspiracies, Templars, and yet more Feuillade, to create what to me feels like a weird amalgam of Lang's Spione, Grant Morrison's comic The Invisibles and Les Vacances de Monsieur Hulot.
Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on
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...and Les Nuits Rouges which goes even further into delirium, including mysterious conspiracies, Templars, and yet more Feuillade, to create what to me feels like a weird amalgam of Lang's Spione, Grant Morrison's comic The Invisibles and Les Vacances de Monsieur Hulot.
(Swoon)
That there sentence is film nerd soft core porn.
Posted by Figbash (# 9048) on
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My film of the week is Primer (2004). Described by Wikipedia (the source of all truth) as a cult movie, one of the finest time travel movies ever made, unusually intelligent, etc.
Two blokes, whose characterisation can be summarised by saying that they dress like Mormon missionaries, one is blonde and the other is brunette, make what appears to be some kind of time machine. They use it to make money on the stock market. Then one of them does something rather unclear and, apparently, bad, in some way, which leads to a climactic half hour in which nothing whatever happens at length, but in a deeply, deeply portentous way. Then there is a series of epilogues, none of which make any sense, but which give the impression of considering themselves highly significant.
Technobabble (praised by critics for its realism; actually meaningless pseudo-scientific nonsense) predominates in the screenplay. Production values are bad to appalling. Acting is of the 'I jut out my jaw and glare when I want to look serious' variety. Direction is obsessed with one or two cheap tricks (e.g. a character walks into blinding light and so appears to vanish) which it uses to death. Cinematography is non-existent. Dialogue is under-recorded and often barely comprehensible.
The interesting thing is, this was praised for its originality, right? Well, it is very obvious that the writer (director, actor, composer, you name it - yes, we have another Ed Wood on our hands, only without the passion) based the whole thing on two 1970s SF stories:
- The Very Slow Time Machine - Ian Watson, 1978
- A Little Something for Us Tempunauts - Philip K Dick, 1975
Now, both of these are great stories that use time travel as the foundation on which to build profound narratives about humanity, despair, messianic fervour, etc. What Primer does is to take the time travel mcguffin from each and throw away the actual story. So the mechanics of the time machine are lifted wholesale from the Watson story, and the main plot device comes from Dick. Unfortunately, Primer's writer didn't apparently think it necessary to come up with his own story - he seems to consider the bare mechanics of time travel and lots and lots of technobabble sufficiently interesting in and of itself. It is not.
Oh yes, and in a rather embarrassing development for those critics (such as Roger Ebert, for heaven's sake) who hailed its originality, the film borrows its basic structure wholesale from that well known SF movie . . . . . . . Groundhog Day.
Conclusion: Go watch Robot Monster instead - it's better in every conceivable way.
Posted by Hedgehog (# 14125) on
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Is there any chance that you could write movie reviews for my local paper?
Posted by Kaplan Corday (# 16119) on
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Don't miss Still Life, which we saw last night.
I thought that the last scene worked, Mrs KC disagrees, but we both thought the film was brilliant.
Incidentally, are funerals really conducted in their entirety, including a eulogy, by a lone clergyman with no congregation at all or only a single mourner?
Posted by Figbash (# 9048) on
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Is there any chance that you could write movie reviews for my local paper?
So long as they would be happy to accept a strategy of ignoring anything susceptible of description as a blockbuster, romcom or 'family' movie, and anything with the words 'Marvel Superhero' even remotely associated with it, in favour of concentrating entirely on the strange and unusual, sure, why not?
Posted by Mere Nick (# 11827) on
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This past Saturday my wife and I went to see Calvary We were torn between that and the Get On Up flick about James Brown. We chose the one that rated slightly higher at IMDB and would be a little more thought provoking. A very good flick about a RC priest who has to face a very difficult challenge.
The theater had plenty of beers on tap, too. Pisgah Pale Ale at $7 for a 22 ounce draft was cheap for a theater.
Posted by Kaplan Corday (# 16119) on
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Woody Allen's latest, Magic In The Moonlight, is the silliest film I have ever seen.
Posted by Curiosity killed ... (# 11770) on
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Originally posted by Kaplan Corday:
Incidentally, are funerals really conducted in their entirety, including a eulogy, by a lone clergyman with no congregation at all or only a single mourner?
Yes, but the eulogy will be quick. Hospital deaths often end up like that. I knew a healthcare chaplain who reckoned they could do a perfectly reasonable funeral in those cases in around 10 minutes - no music and hymns to slow it down.
Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on
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Originally posted by Hedgehog:
Is there any chance that you could write movie reviews for my local paper?
So long as they would be happy to accept a strategy of ignoring anything susceptible of description as a blockbuster, romcom or 'family' movie, and anything with the words 'Marvel Superhero' even remotely associated with it, in favour of concentrating entirely on the strange and unusual, sure, why not?
Posted by leo (# 1458) on
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'The Island' - serious stuff about the ethics of cloning but lots of chases and guns to make it a popular blockbuster.
Posted by Palimpsest (# 16772) on
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I saw a sneak preview tonight of "The Imitation Game". It's a dramatization of the life of Alan Turing, starring Benedict Cumberbatch. I enjoyed it a great deal, but I'm easily amused by the shots of the Bombe decryption machine and period British shots.
I think it opens in November in both England and the U.S.
It did get a bunch of the interesting stuff right.
Posted by leo (# 1458) on
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The Devil wars Prada - about powerful and manipulative women.
Posted by Palimpsest (# 16772) on
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The Seattle Gay Film Festival has started a not very inspired schedule.
Today I saw a collection of shorts, several of which were fun including a translation of Cinderella to a Leather Bar and one called "The Disgustings" about two viscious queens.
The feature film I saw was "Black Bird" based on a YA novel about a black kid being raised in a religious family fighting his feelings of being gay. It had some good acting, but I didn't like the way the 20 year old book was updated with some side soap opera about an abducted sister. It did show the pain of finding your way being raised in a traditional devout family.
Posted by leo (# 1458) on
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'There will be blood' about a ruthless man drilling for oil, conning local populations to part with their land and covering his greed with a veneer of religiosity.
Posted by ChastMastr (# 716) on
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Today I saw a collection of shorts, several of which were fun including a translation of Cinderella to a Leather Bar
OMG can you tell me the title of this? I MUST see it!!
Posted by ChastMastr (# 716) on
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Aha! After some Googling I find it is called Zolushka but isn't findable to watch anywhere online.
On the plus side, the Cruising 1980 one is.
And I love this one: Boot Camp.
Posted by ChastMastr (# 716) on
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Originally posted by leo:
'There will be blood' about a ruthless man drilling for oil, conning local populations to part with their land and covering his greed with a veneer of religiosity.
Ah! A current documentary.
Posted by leo (# 1458) on
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Yes, a perennial issue despite this film dealing with events in 1898 and filmed in 2007
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on
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I've just watched Midnight in Paris again - I have never been to Paris and now I probably never shall but the film shows it in a lovely light. It's a great cast, too - the star for me is Kathy Bates as Gertrude Stein.
First movie I've watched for ages which is silly as I have about 100 of my favourites in arm's reach from where I sit here.
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Posted by Pine Marten (# 11068) on
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I've just watched Midnight in Paris again - I have never been to Paris and now I probably never shall but the film shows it in a lovely light. It's a great cast, too - the star for me is Kathy Bates as Gertrude Stein.
First movie I've watched for ages which is silly as I have about 100 of my favourites in arm's reach from where I sit here.
An excellent film. I run a film night at church every so often, and I showed this recently, and it was much enjoyed.
My daughter recommended something the other week ('mum, you should show this at your film night!'), so I bought it: Stuart: a life backwards, with Benedict Cumberbatch and Tom Hardy, a true story of the friendship between a writer and an alcoholic drug addict. Sounds grim, but it was very good, funny at times, and both actors were excellent.
Posted by ChastMastr (# 716) on
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Tonight: Something spooky. Not sure what yet.
Cubby's been having me watch A Beautiful Thing with him, albeit in bits.
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To me the best part of Midnight in Paris was Owen Wilson channeling the neurotic Woody Allen character.
I saw a film called "Match" at the gay film festival tonight. It was a three hander with Patrick Stewart as a Gay Dance Instructor who has a couple show up and ask questions about his past. It was a pretty good acting exercise.
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Watched Trainspotting for maybe the third or fourth time, and confirmed my long-held opinion that the script fails to discipline itself within the parameters set by the characters and milieu.
Specifically, it purports to be giving us an unflinching look at the heartless desperation of junkie life, but insists on imbuing its characters with a culturally-savvy hispter edge that doesn't quite fit the premise.
Example: These people sit around debating the finer points of early 60s Bond films, but are otherwise too strung-out to notice that a baby is starving to death in their living room?
Drugstore Cowboy, for my money, remains the best junkie film.
Posted by Sir Kevin (# 3492) on
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Last thing we watched was Gravity last night: we recorded it on HBO. A real tour-de-force: amazing acting with only two major characters and a real cliff-hanger!
Posted by Palimpsest (# 16772) on
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Originally posted by ChastMastr:
Aha! After some Googling I find it is called Zolushka but isn't findable to watch anywhere online.
On the plus side, the Cruising 1980 one is.
And I love this one: Boot Camp.
The movie is called Zolushka and uses the music from both Cinderella. (it's a silent). Waxy Moon is the fairy godmother. You can see him in the web series Capitol Hill Since it was shot in Seattle, this may be the first stop on the gay film festival circuit.
Posted by ChastMastr (# 716) on
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Now that Cubby is home from the hospital we should watch some spooky stuff.
I am eager to see Book of Life in the theatre if we can.
Posted by ChastMastr (# 716) on
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Originally posted by Palimpsest:
The movie is called Zolushka and uses the music from both Cinderella. (it's a silent).
Didn't they have to get permission for at least the Disney one?
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Well, Film Festival films get away with a lot. (Although PBS did squelch a short called "B&E" which was a remake of "The Children's Hour" with voiceovers from Bert and Ernie).
But when I said Cinderella I was referring to the Rossini opera La Cenerentola and the Prokofiev ballet Cinderella. The director of the film mentioned growing up in the Soviet Union so he may have missed the Disney version.
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Ah! I did not know of those.
Posted by ChastMastr (# 716) on
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Still have not watched anything spooky/Halloweenish.
We need to do this.
We do have access to the Nightmare on Elm Street movies, which I have never seen (well, I think I saw the one which broke the fourth wall, a long time ago). And Alien and Aliens (neither of which Cubby has seen).
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If you want old spooky and have a fast enough internet connection; the 1922 version of Nosferatu is on Youtube.
Posted by ArachnidinElmet (# 17346) on
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Still have not watched anything spooky/Halloweenish.
We need to do this.
We do have access to the Nightmare on Elm Street movies, which I have never seen (well, I think I saw the one which broke the fourth wall, a long time ago). And Alien and Aliens (neither of which Cubby has seen).
I think the 'breaking the fourth wall' film is 'New Nightmare' and remember it being pretty good considering the declining quality of the Nightmare on Elm Street sequels.
Last Halloween I bought Boris Karloff's 'The Mummy' a film which really holds up over the years. Karloff's a much underrated magnetic actor, sadly (incorrectly) remembered for shuffling and moaning.
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on
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The other night I had a rerun of Kind Hearts and Coronets and was struck, again, by how completely hideous and vile the Joan Greenwood character becomes by the end. A masterfully made movie.
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On a not so scary note, I saw The Book of Life. A Dia De Los Muertos inspired animated movie.
Loved it. Yes, the story is predictable, but it still flows well. Loved the style of the animation, the design and the colour. But, I am infatuated with the Day of the Dead, so....
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I'm back to escorting a 14 year old to the cinema and have seen:
- Guardians of the Galaxy which was great fun, a sort of Star Wars (the original) meets every other film of the genre they fancied taking the good bits from, but with some kick-ass female characters. Personally I loved the soundtrack; what's not to like about the 70s and 80s music? (Because I was doing this for work, I spent a good chunk of the middle of it in a text conversation with another member of staff and missed a huge plot point. So I went back with my daughter who also loved it.) There is obviously a series planned with the same characters. And the Vin Diesel character is amazing, really, really cool.
- The Maze Runner - a film of a book. The blurb is that a teenager wakes up in a cage arriving in a clearing surrounded by the high cliffs of a maze, where a colony of young people have arrived one by one, once a month, and what happens afterwards. Definitely worth watching, a very young cast, some unknown, but quite a few to look out for. (Alby is played by the actor who was Trif from Kidulthood, Newt is played by another known actor.) Reviews I read beforehand from lovers of the book were complaining about sub-plots that were missed but acknowledged the acting and pace. This is another one I really liked and it had a subtext.
- Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles - it's what you'd expect, good effects, lots of action, not a lot of subtlety, any subtext spelt out in flashing lights.
Posted by Pine Marten (# 11068) on
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I've just watched a dvd of Glen or Glenda, Ed Wood's famously bad first film. Actually, it was rather sweet, and Ed's earnestness gave it heart, although there is a 10 or 15 minute nightmare sequence that is quite indescribable, involving a bit of S&M, various girls in states of undress, a Satan figure and goodness knows what else.
I'm very fond the 1994 Johnny Depp film Ed Wood, which is a sympathetic version of his life, and watching Glen or Glenda just makes me warm to him even more
. And it's not as bad as Plan 9 from Outer Space
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Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on
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Glen or Glenda is awesome. It's like an educational reel on crossdressing. And the final scene was a triumph!
Posted by Hedgehog (# 14125) on
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Guardians of the Galaxy which was great fun, a sort of Star Wars (the original) meets every other film of the genre they fancied taking the good bits from, but with some kick-ass female characters. Personally I loved the soundtrack; what's not to like about the 70s and 80s music?
It is a fun movie. It is not just that it has a 70s/80s music soundtrack, but that they bothered to create a plot thread to explain just why a movie set in interstellar space had a soundtrack of 70s/80s music.
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Netflix has at last made it to France, so traipsing down to the DVD hole-in-the-wall may now be a thing of the past.
The choice is not brilliant, but did manage to watch Fargo not long ago.
Helped me to understand (and recognise) Minnesota Nice, and unfortunately is a painfully accurate portrayal of the character and careers of many delinquents I know.
Posted by JoannaP (# 4493) on
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Yesterday we went to the BFI and saw the new version of Metropolis
There are still a couple of scenes missing and at times the picture quality is pretty poor, but what an amazing film!! The plot actually makes sense now, the score fits properly and there are some fantastic visuals. How he managed all those extras, especially the children, I have no idea but the crowd scenes are awesome.
Posted by Heavenly Anarchist (# 13313) on
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Yesterday we went to the BFI and saw the new version of Metropolis
There are still a couple of scenes missing and at times the picture quality is pretty poor, but what an amazing film!! The plot actually makes sense now, the score fits properly and there are some fantastic visuals. How he managed all those extras, especially the children, I have no idea but the crowd scenes are awesome.
Oh wow, that sounds amazing. We have copy of a previous release (I studied some German inter-war film as part of an OU course on Total War) and the first time I watched it I had to keep wiki open so we could work out what was going on.
Posted by Brenda Clough (# 18061) on
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We just came back from seeing BIRDMAN, the new Michael Keaton movie. Very fine! An amalgam of superheroes and the New York theater scene.
Posted by ChastMastr (# 716) on
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Finally beginning our spooky movie-watching, we saw The Mothman Prophecies the other night. It was really quite good!
Posted by Ariel (# 58) on
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Finally got round to seeing "Voyage of the Dawn Treader" on television last night. Enjoyed this a lot although I was somewhat surprised that the cast were on a journey to try to defeat a mysterious green mist from the Dark Isle, which could only be vanquished by rescuing seven magical swords. It was a bit of a plot stretch to have the missing seventh sword being stuck in Eustace and having to be extricated by Aslan before the spell could work. I wonder what C S Lewis would have made of that?
Also, poor Edmund is clearly being stalked through the series of films by the ghost of the White (or now Green) Witch. Surely time to give that recurring motif a rest?
Posted by Brenda Clough (# 18061) on
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I have heard nothing about more Narnia movies. The relative un-profitableness of DAWN TREADER may have put paid to the series.
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I watched 3 somewhat different films over the weekend.
Firstly, The Eiger Sanction starring Clint Eastwood. On the negative it's got some bad 70s traits like some sexism, homophobia and racism. But (!) if you like spy thrillers, climbing and gorgeous scenery (and I do) then it is entertaining and enthralling with stunning views of Monument Valley's Totempole and spell-binding shots of the Eiger in Switzerland.
Secondly, Shaun of the Dead, the first in Edgar Wright's Cornetto trilogy. It's the third time I have seen the film and it is as funny and inventive as the first viewing.
Thirdly, Hugo by Scorsese. It is moving and visually engaging.
I liked all 3 films.
Posted by Hedgehog (# 14125) on
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Yesterday we went to the BFI and saw the new version of Metropolis
There are still a couple of scenes missing and at times the picture quality is pretty poor, but what an amazing film!! The plot actually makes sense now, the score fits properly and there are some fantastic visuals. How he managed all those extras, especially the children, I have no idea but the crowd scenes are awesome.
Oh wow, that sounds amazing. We have copy of a previous release (I studied some German inter-war film as part of an OU course on Total War) and the first time I watched it I had to keep wiki open so we could work out what was going on.
Oh, yes. The restored version is quite an eye-opener to those of us whose first exposure was to the truncated film (I first saw it in the 1970s). Characters that were just walk-ons in the shortened version now have substantial parts, and the relationship between the Master of Metropolis and Rotwang the inventor is...more complicated than it had seemed.
As JoannaP states, the picture quality is poor in some scenes, and special title cards are needed to cover missing bits, but both are a small price to pay to enjoy the film as it was intended to be seen.
Posted by Pine Marten (# 11068) on
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I had an altercation with the morons in a lorry earlier this afternoon, which carried on through the green man light while I was crossing the road - they got loud rapping on the passenger window and a mouthful of abuse from me, which they returned. So when I got home I put on a dvd of Boris Karloff's 1933 The Mummy, which calmed me down no end.
There is something so classy about Karloff
Posted by Eutychus (# 3081) on
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Actually made it to a cinema and saw The Judge, thought it a lot better than the reviews lead to believe.
Apparently Interstellar is premiering in France tomorrow, which puts us ahead of the crowd. Sorely tempted to go back for this.
Posted by infinite_monkey (# 11333) on
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On a not so scary note, I saw The Book of Life. A Dia De Los Muertos inspired animated movie.
Loved it. Yes, the story is predictable, but it still flows well. Loved the style of the animation, the design and the colour. But, I am infatuated with the Day of the Dead, so....
I loved it, too! So lavishly beautiful. And I want a tiny pig shaped like a bleach bottle now.
Posted by Mili (# 3254) on
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If anyone wants to watch a creepy movie for Halloween I can recommend 'Gone Girl'. No ghosts or vampires, but some ghoulish people and a twisting, crazy plotline. The most sympathetic character was the cat.
Has anyone seen 'Box Trolls'? I saw it with children from the vacation care program I work in. It was a bit scary for some of the littler children, but they all enjoyed making box costumes back at the centre and naming themselves after the box contents. I quite liked it though I did feel like I needed an epipen at times and the action sequences towards the end of the film were a bit long.
Posted by Stetson (# 9597) on
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Firstly, The Eiger Sanction starring Clint Eastwood. On the negative it's got some bad 70s traits like some sexism, homophobia and racism.
Yeah, sheesh, the homophobia in that. The dog's name was actually something that would be unprintable on SOF, outside maybe Hell.
In fairness, back in those days, homophobia was far more accepted than it is now, and turned up even in liberal or progressive media. But that film was pretty extreme, even by the standards of the time.
Though as I recall, the homophobia was somewhat balanced off by the homoerotic imagery of the guys on the mountains together.
Posted by lilBuddha (# 14333) on
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And I want a tiny pig shaped like a bleach bottle now.
I am seriously considering making the guitar. Well, an electric version, not ready to try making an acoustic guitar yet.
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Has anyone seen 'Box Trolls'?
I liked it. Loved the animation and most of the way the story progressed. Loved Richard Ayoade in it as well.
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If you're looking for a fun Halloween film, "Troll Hunter" would be a fun choice.
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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Has anyone seen Pride Set in Britain when Thatcher was PM.
I'm thinking of going in the weekend.
Huia
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I haven't but i have heard good reports from 3 different people who have.
Posted by ChastMastr (# 716) on
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Originally posted by Palimpsest:
If you're looking for a fun Halloween film, "Troll Hunter" would be a fun choice.
I think it is available on Netflix/Hulu too and is in our queue!
Thank you!!
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Pride was on my list of films I wanted to watch, but failed to see. The trailers were brilliant.
Posted by Stetson (# 9597) on
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I watched The Giver on Friday night. A very typical huxleyan dystopia, ie. appearing on the surface as a science-inspired paradise, but hiding a darker reality underneath.
Also, the same basic huxleyan sermonizing about how we can't reject our physical and emotional imperfections without rejecting our humanity. True enough, but hardly a scorchingly original point.
That said, by the admittedly lame standards of the genre, a fairly entertaining yarn(better than Equillibrium or Gattaca), which managed to hold my interest and even moisten my eyes a bit during the humanity-asserting climax.
The character of the Giver, essentially a huxleyan savage but employed by the state(he transmits knowledge of the old days to the rulers of the supposed utopia), was well drawn. I was pleased to see the writers resisted the temptation to portray him as a lovable old rogue(one of the more annoyningly overdone cinematic archetypes these days).
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Posted by Dafyd (# 5549) on
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Has anyone seen Pride Set in Britain when Thatcher was PM.
Yes. Do not see if you are homophobic or a Thatcherite. Otherwise, see. All the political engagement of Brassed Off; all the fun of The Full Monty. Dominic West gets to play a likeable character for a change.
Posted by ChastMastr (# 716) on
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We watched Nosferatu last night.
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We're going to see Nosferatu next week, at the local Church in Wales church (as the vicar said "Well, it's a Gothic building!") with Father Richard doing the musical accompaniment on the organ! Only in Hay-on-Wye!!!
Posted by Eutychus (# 3081) on
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Apparently Interstellar is premiering in France tomorrow, which puts us ahead of the crowd. Sorely tempted to go back for this.
Did. Was well worth it. Lovers of Moon and/or 2001 should enjoy.
Posted by Stetson (# 9597) on
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I watched The Double, a British film based on Dostoyevsky, but trying desperately, at times tiresomely, to be David Lynch.
The whole theme of identity confusion might have been fresh and exciting in 1846, but these days it's become a bit of a film cliche, so the plot isn't as riveting as maybe the creators were hoping for.
The ambiguous location and anachronistic time period are well drawn, but again, those are hardly original devices these days.
All that said, if you like bleak mood pieces, you'd probably enjoy this. I'm thinking I might even give it a second viewing some time in the near future.
Posted by leo (# 1458) on
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Tiger in the Smoke - set in 1956 London smog - a psychopath and a vicar who sees good in everyone.
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I went to see The Book of Life this evening and I loved it. Such unusual (to me) animation framing a story about love, family, integrity, and redemption all set in a world of Dia de Los Muertos. The colors! The textures! Awesome.
Posted by leo (# 1458) on
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The Terminal - about a man who becomes stateless and cannot leave the airport - he lives there for 9 months. A comedy with a good set of messages about patience, homelessness and goodness.
Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on
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Just finishing the 2012 version of Nicholas Nickelby-- and I'm kind of enjoying it. It's like if you took the schmaltziest of Merchant-Ivory costume dramas and gave it a dose of a light hallucinogen. The director embraces the over-the top- melodrama of Dickens and adds enough weird little touches and strange characters to give me an excuse to use the word "Felliniesque."
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Posted by Curiosity killed ... (# 11770) on
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I continue watching films with a 14 year old, and our recent viewing has included:
- Interstellar - I enjoyed it and reckoned it was channelling Arthur C Clarke and all sorts of things I could use in teaching*, but the 14 year old came out saying he had no idea what it was about and totally switched off.
- The Hunger Games - Mockingjay 1 - again, I quite enjoyed it as I'd seen the first one. Student's comment was that it was boring and had no action. I belatedly checked if he'd seen any others of the series and realised he hadn't. But another tutor also took his students to see it and also reckoned not to bother unless you were a fan and had seen the previous films. He owns both of the previous films on DVD and he was lost in parts of the film.
* Lots and lots of teaching ideas: beautiful depictions of dust bowl America, farming, human over-exploitation of the planet, science of the solar system, space debris, the atmosphere around earth / in space, altruism, the human survival instinct, hibernation, singularlity, relativity, space-time continuum, Newton's laws of mechanics: action and reaction - none of which I can now use and he was so switched off.
Posted by Sir Kevin (# 3492) on
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Originally posted by Eigon:
We're going to see Nosferatu next week, at the local Church in Wales church (as the vicar said "Well, it's a Gothic building!") with Father Richard doing the musical accompaniment on the organ! Only in Hay-on-Wye!!!
One of our favourite films: borrowed from the library, black and white, VHS, silent...
Posted by Sherwood (# 15702) on
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Originally posted by Eigon:
We're going to see Nosferatu next week, at the local Church in Wales church (as the vicar said "Well, it's a Gothic building!") with Father Richard doing the musical accompaniment on the organ! Only in Hay-on-Wye!!!
One of our favourite films: borrowed from the library, black and white, VHS, silent...
If you can ever find it on the cheap, you should check out the Eureka 'Masters of Cinema' edition. It's fully restored to it's original form including colour filters, features a reconstruction of the "original" score and is simply beautiful.
Posted by Brenda Clough (# 18061) on
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We went to see Birdman and Interstellar. Both excellent films, in quite different ways. I have reviewed them over at Book View Cafe.
Posted by Hedgehog (# 14125) on
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I just finished watching Noah's Ark (1928), starring Dolores Costello and George O'Brien. Dolores was the grandmother of Drew Barrymore and, while I admit I might be imaging it, I think I do see a resemblance in some of the scenes.
There is a lot to comment on. First, I like films from 1928/1929, because that is the period of transition from silents to sound. The Jazz Singer came out in 1927, but a lot of theaters did not have sound equipment, so there was a period when movie makers had to decide whether to go for sound and have limited distribution, or stay silent. Some would make both a silent and a sound version of a film. Others did what this film did (and, indeed, The Jazz Singer did) which is to film what is primarily a silent film and add a few sound sequences.
One of the interesting issues for early sound films is the technical problem that, for sound recording, the camera itself made so much noise that it had to be shielded in a sound-proof booth. As a result, while "silent" portions of the film could have a mobile camera panning across the action, the sound bits are very static--essentially people just stood still and spoke their lines. This was another disincentive for going completely to a sound film, because it restricted the camera motion so much.
The version of Noah's Ark that I watched ran for 108 minutes. I think the original release ran about 138 minutes but, after the first showing, about 30 minutes were cut out--much of that being failed sound sequences that just didn't come across right. The version I watched only has about 15 minutes of sound, although that includes a lovely speaking part for Myrna Loy--the primary reason that I bought the DVD. I adore Myrna. She had just a bit part, but it was in a sound sequence.
The film contrasts a "modern-day" sequence, set during the Great War (a/k/a World War I...although at the time they didn't know they had to number it) contrasted with the Biblical time of Noah. The Great Deluge of Noah is compared to the "deluge of blood" caused by the War. We don't really get to the Biblical theme until about 65 minutes into the film, but it carries on until the 102nd minute.
The Flood sequence is very impressive. It is even more so when you remind yourself that they did not have the advantage of CGI. Scenes of people being washed away by huge amounts of water were not drawn by computer, but were achieved by...well, by huge amounts of water washing people away. It is reported that three extras drowned during the Flood sequences, and many others sustained serous injury. As a result, after this film, new standards were set for what was considered an acceptable risk for movie stunts ("Rule # 1: Try not to kill the actors, even if they are only extras.")
It is also stated that one of the extras swimming in the floodwaters (and who clearly did not drown) was a young John Wayne. But good luck trying to identify which one he is.
The moral of the film--that the Great War was a modern version of the Flood and God's new covenant is that war will now be an "outlaw" and hunted from the face of the Earth, so that "these ten million men will not have died in vane"--is tragic in light of our knowledge that, far from being "outlawed," another "World War" was just a little over a decade away and would cause even more death and destruction. And that further wars just keep coming.
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Great review, Hedgehog! I agree that films of that era are technically fascinating.
And thanks for reminding me about the flood scene fiasco-- that is notorious.
Posted by ChastMastr (# 716) on
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We rewatched Blackadder's Christmas Carol.
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I'm also a fan of silent films. Two that your film reminded me that I saw in the last couple of years were
20,000 Leagues Under the Seat which had some pretty amazing shots that were filmed underwater.
I saw a film about the Great War called "J'accuse". A trifle long but some powerful scenes about the war in the trenches and the aftermath. It also had a Jules and Jim like sub plot where the Brute and the Poet who fell in love with the Brutes wife come to an understanding in the trenches.
Posted by Highfive (# 12937) on
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Saw Fury last week. It was much like Saving Private Ryan with Tanks. While it wasn't as gory as SPR (thankfully), it was definitely much more brutal in a way that has you googling afterwards to check it's distressing historical accuracy. Both Pitt and LeBeouf were great in this, as well as the Tiger 1 tank making his comeback after sitting in a museum since 1946. Overall, I'm glad I caught it in the cinemas.
Posted by Gill H (# 68) on
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Paddington. Surprisingly good! Yes, lots of slapstick which the kids in the audience loved. But also lots of wry British humour for the adults, and a very touching exploration of the 'immigrant experience'.
I thought I spotted several homages to Mary Poppins (the painted cherry blossom in the house, Paddington being blown into the sky holding an umbrella, the quirky household and worried father who needs to soften up...)
The sort of family film they supposedly don't make any more. Oh, and don't worry about the PG certificate, unless your child is likely to be traumatised by the sight of Hugh Bonneville in a dress being chatted up by a sleazy official.
Posted by leo (# 1458) on
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Win Win - about a down at heel attorney who takes in a teenage wrestling star.
Dysfunctional families with a happy ending.
Posted by Curiosity killed ... (# 11770) on
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Not only I liked Paddington, but my 14 year old teenage boy companion came out saying it was much better than The Hunger Games and agreed when I said it had more action.
The other game was spot the English actor - loved Peter Capaldi and Matt Lucas, but there were so many other names - and I hadn't realised that Michael Bond also has a bit part a la Hitchcock.
Posted by Mr Clingford (# 7961) on
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... spot the English actor - loved Peter Capaldi
Everybody seems to like Paddington a lot.
Interstellar was my last film on the big screen and it was a thrilling experience.
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Posted by Trudy Scrumptious (# 5647) on
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The Theory of Everything. I'd love to know who else has seen it as there are things in it I'd like to discuss with someone!
Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on
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It's become a New Tradition for the cable channels around here to show Pieces of April around the holidays, and I cannot recommend this sweet, funny little film enough. Katie Holmes (age 21ish) plays the family black sheep, living in semi-squalor with her sweet boyfriend in a crappy lower East Side tenement, who attempts to show her family she is turning her life around by inviting them to Thanksgiving dinner, which she prepares herself. As an indication of how things go-- her oven is broken, and she has to beg her neighbors to lend her oven space.
Her ridiculously complicated quest is interspersed with scenes of her family driving from Upstate to attend, with her siblings and cancer- ridden mother cheerfully predicting disaster, and her father extolling them to have hope. The humor is the kind that makes you laugh with a sharp ache in your stomach, but the film has a lot of heart, and a gently happy ending.
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Originally posted by Trudy Scrumptious:
The Theory of Everything. I'd love to know who else has seen it as there are things in it I'd like to discuss with someone!
Saw it today, and really enjoyed it.
Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on
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Any doc fans out there. I just saw and highly recommend Whoopie Goldberg Presents Moms Mabley. Wonderful, wonderful, wonderful. I watched it because just about every comic I admire cites her as an influence-- and in the comedy world, if a popular male comic doesn't hesitate to cite a woman as an influence, it's a sign she must be checked out. She indeed was a force of nature.
And Sidney Poitier, in his interview, sounded like he had a little crush on her.
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I saw the documentary on Moms Mabley and enjoyed it as well. The thing that astounded me was just how long a career she had. I also enjoyed that the lesbian aspect of her personal life surfaced. It's so easy for stuff like that to get lost in the adoration.
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Did she not look smoking hot in drag?
( they showed a still of her out of her comedy getup and dressed in a forties- style three piece suit with a fedora and a bigass cigar.)
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Posted by Ariel (# 58) on
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"Passport to Pimlico" is on television - haven't seen that in years. I'd had forgotten how enjoyable some of these old Ealing comedies could be. A refreshing way to spend a Sunday afternoon.
(Can't get over how young Charles Hawtrey is in it though.)
Posted by Ariel (# 58) on
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Has anyone seen "The Hobbit" Part 3 yet? I'm thinking of going to see it, but not if it's going to be 90% battles.
Posted by Curiosity killed ... (# 11770) on
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It might be my fate on Tuesday (The Hobbit, that is). I'll tell you what it was like if that happens.
Posted by Twilight (# 2832) on
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I got to see Moms Mabley live once, opening for some Mo-town acts. Very funny. Also funny was the DVD someone gave me yesterday, for my birthday, of Melissa McCarthy and Sandra Bullock in The Heat. Not my usual Merchant/Ivory sort of thing but I laughed all the way through it.
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I thought McCarthy and Bullock made a pretty good team-- hope they team up again.
Posted by Trudy Scrumptious (# 5647) on
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The Theory of Everything. I'd love to know who else has seen it as there are things in it I'd like to discuss with someone!
Saw it today, and really enjoyed it.
Since watching it, I've been reading Jane Hawking's book on which it was based. The book is not nearly as well-written as the film is well-made (since she's not primarily a writer) but it's recognizably the same story. It's an interesting attempt, in the movie, to frame the story of Stephen Hawking's life as the story of his marriage to Jane, when you know going in that the marriage is not going to last, and the film has to tell THAT story too. It somewhat undercuts the inspiring "love conquers all" narrative, but in a good way, I think.
I'm seeing The Hobbit with the family on Wednesday. I think it's going to be a hot mess, but I will freely admit that I'm contributing to the Peter Jackson Money Machine by buying tickets for opening night. We've seen all of LOTR and all of The Hobbit in the theatres and I can't quit now, even though I know I'll find the extended action sequences and additions to the plot ridiculous. I hope they'll be a few quiet moments to enjoy, and some stunning sets and scenery -- that's really about the best to hope for at this point isn't it?
Posted by Curiosity killed ... (# 11770) on
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I saw The Hobbit today. It's a lot of battle, with some quite graphic scenes and I really, really don't remember some of those story lines from the book - a female elf in love with Kili, where did that come from? And where did she come from?
It starts with Smaug taking out Laketown, which is spectacular, but I suspect is harking back to the previous film. That's very well done. As are Thorin's reactions now they've achieved the mountain. Loved Dain Ironfoot in the battle, plus the cast was full of the most unexpected actors: Stephen Fry and Sylvester McCoy, for example.
(I am not the best person to review this as I've never managed to sit through any of the Lord of the Rings films, and I own them, didn't bother trying to see The Hobbit films).
Posted by Ariel (# 58) on
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Originally posted by Curiosity killed ...:
I saw The Hobbit today. It's a lot of battle, with some quite graphic scenes
Ah - thanks for the warning. I'll wait until it comes out on DVD and borrow it for the library, don't think I'll want to shell out a tenner on seeing it at the cinema.
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I really, really don't remember some of those story lines from the book - a female elf in love with Kili, where did that come from? And where did she come from?
Explosive love triangle with Legolas. She (I forget her name) and Legolas were apparently responsible for guarding the entire region between just the two of them, before the dragon happened and the dwarfs arrived on the scene and Legolas' interest in her became a lost cause. Strangely, it can be very hard to find that particular bit in the book.
Posted by Curiosity killed ... (# 11770) on
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Tauriel is her name.
Posted by Trudy Scrumptious (# 5647) on
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Of all the weird additions to the book that were required to stretch it out to three movies, the addition of Tauriel bothers me least, because honestly, if there was ever a writer who needed some more female characters, it's Tolkein. The elf/dwarf love story seemed silly to me (although I quite liked Kili), and at the end, Legolas seems to just sort of drop his end of the love triangle as if he's forgotten about it.
I loved all the bits with Thorin and Bilbo, great acting from both -- found the battle scenes big and overblown and boring, and suspending my disbelief just a little too far. But still, having seen every movie of both trilogies in the theatre, I was glad to have completed the series. I still think The Hobbit would have worked just fine as a single tightly-plotted movie that followed the book closely. But it was not to be.
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I haven't seen the first two Hobbit films, and I'm not sure I'll see the third. I'm wondering if some aspiring editor will do a Youtube mash up when all three are available on DVD and produce a 90 minute cut of all three. One can only hope.
Posted by Curiosity killed ... (# 11770) on
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That last one was 144 minutes .... it did feel over long in parts.
Posted by Mr Clingford (# 7961) on
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That last one was 144 minutes .... it did feel over long in parts.
And was the shortest of the three!
Here's some pertinent words from critic Mark Kermode
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Posted by Trudy Scrumptious (# 5647) on
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That last one was 144 minutes .... it did feel over long in parts.
That's 144 minutes based on, apparently, the last 47 pages of the book.
Posted by Truman White (# 17290) on
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Saw Intersteller at Mrs White's suggestion. She doesn't usually go for Sci Fi but had been swayed by rave reviews. Maybe this was my chance to get her hooked on SciFi so's I don't have to look like some lonely old geezer every time I want to see a SciFi flick.
After about an hour and ten she asked if it was just her, or was it mind-numbingly dull. Gutted. Trouble is, she was right. 20 mins of stellar special effects wrapped up in an hour and a half of sheer tedium. Reminded me of watching Arsenal under George Graham.
Off to see Hobbit 3 in the New Year. On me todd again...
Posted by Palimpsest (# 16772) on
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I just saw a Christmas Eve double feature of "Birdman" and "Into The Woods". Birdman had some terrific acting and fun backstage theater but really lacked a story other than the nervous breakdown of a celebrity.
Into the Woods was ok, but the Sondheim music had been sweetened with a ton of upbeat fanfares and string fill. The changing of Jack and Red Riding hood into children weakened the show a bit.
Posted by Sparrow (# 2458) on
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Saw Intersteller at Mrs White's suggestion. She doesn't usually go for Sci Fi but had been swayed by rave reviews. Maybe this was my chance to get her hooked on SciFi so's I don't have to look like some lonely old geezer every time I want to see a SciFi flick.
After about an hour and ten she asked if it was just her, or was it mind-numbingly dull. Gutted. Trouble is, she was right. 20 mins of stellar special effects wrapped up in an hour and a half of sheer tedium. Reminded me of watching Arsenal under George Graham.
Off to see Hobbit 3 in the New Year. On me todd again...
I agree, I thought it was dreadful rubbish.
Hoping for better over the New Year - BF will be here and we will hopefully take in Hobbit 3, the Imitation Game and the one about Stephen Hawking whose name escapes me at the moment. Also I want to catch up with Mr Turner but I will probably have to do that one on my own, not BF's thing at all.....
Posted by king in exile (# 18277) on
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I'm excited to see the new Mad Max. I may have to drive to Bahrain to see it because I live in Saudi Arabia. Hopefully we can watch The Interview tonight. This is my first ever post btw. Hi all.
Posted by Ariel (# 58) on
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Hello and welcome, king in exile! I hope you enjoy looking around - I suggest you take some time to familiarize yourself with the board guidelines, as each board has a different flavour.
You're also welcome to pop over to All Saints and introduce yourself there on the Welcome Aboard thread, if you like - we're a friendly bunch and people will be pleased to see you. If you aren't sure about anything, or have any questions, just ask, we're happy to help.
Merry Christmas! and happy posting,
Ariel
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Posted by leo (# 1458) on
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The Selfish Giant - inspired by Oscar Wilde's story of the same name but set in a scrapyard.
I could not see any connection between the two.
Posted by M. (# 3291) on
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A Matter of Life and Death earlier on and the Ladykillers (the original) at the moment.
Both just brilliant. Perfect for Boxing Day.
M.
Posted by leo (# 1458) on
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Hunky Dory - about a school musical - brought back lots of memories.
Posted by SvitlanaV2 (# 16967) on
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I saw 'Exodus' on Boxing Day. It was better than I was expecting, if you put to one side the ethnically curious casting choices. The film looked great - CGI, costumes, make-up, etc.
However, I wasn't convinced by the decision to use a rather arrogant little boy as the intermediary between God and Moses. His presence emphasised the attempt to underplay the spiritual side of Moses' character and to me, that was rather unsatisfying. What we have in the OT are leaders and prophets who communicate vividly with God, and I don't feel that removing that level of communication makes biblical figures more interesting than they otherwise would be; just more confused. But it's obviously a trend in biblical epics, as Noah was similarly very confused about God in that film last year.
Anyone else seen 'Exodus' yet?
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Posted by Palimpsest (# 16772) on
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I just saw "The Imitation Game" for the second time. Like the first, it was free tickets so I went with a friend. It's good even if fuzzes the facts a bit and leaves out interesting stuff. I liked the review which complained "for a biography about a homosexual mathematician" there wasn't much homosexuality or math. You don't often get complaints that film didn't have enough math in it.
It did make me go back and reread the Andrew Hodges Biography which I haven't read in many years. He's a fascinating person.
Posted by Mili (# 3254) on
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I saw "The Hobbit" part 3 yesterday. I found it better than the first two, but agree that it would be better with much shorter action sequences and if it had been 1 and a 1/2 hours long or even shorter.
I was also annoyed by an added storyline about a dodgy townsman, Alfrid. He was dishonest, greedy, selfish, untrustworthy, cowardly, incompetent and hated by all the townspeople- pretty much a sociopath. But for some reason the hero, Bard kept giving him really important jobs like getting the women and children to safety. Surely someone else in town was better qualified.
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I watched Detachment, a Blackboard Jungle type story, but done up with the trappings of American independent cinema(brooding atmosphere, discordant music, etc). These indy pretensions were somewhat belied by the top-drawer casting choices(eg. Adrian Brody, Lucy Liu, James Caan for old-times sake).
If you've ever spent a tiresome evening listening to teachers talk about how underappreciated their profession is, this movie is kind of the cinematization of that. Despite the aspirations to gritty realism, the complaining parents(threatening to sue the school and whatnot) come across like stock comedy characters.
Speaking of stock, Caan plays a lovably roguish pedagogue who reads porn magazine between classes, offers tranqilizers to his colleagues, and shows female students photos of diseased genitalia to discourage them from bad life-choices. Hard to imagine that a guy like this would manage to stay out of jail, let alone hold down a teaching job. (And he's meant to be understood as a good guy, not symptomatic of bad teachers).
All that said, there are a few well-executed scenes, and if you can stomach the self-congratulatory accolades heaped upon the teaching profession, it's probably worth a look.
[ 28. December 2014, 15:32: Message edited by: Stetson ]
Posted by Eigon (# 4917) on
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I've been settling down with a party hat and a glass of port to rewatch Hamlet - the version with David Tennant. It's the first version I've seen where I actually understand what's going on! And that's mostly down to Patrick Stewart as Claudius - not just the guy who married Hamlet's mum before her first husband's body was cold, but trying to run a country with this untouchable lunatic running around, who knows more than he should about the murder.
And then something completely different - I'd seen Iron Man 1 and 3, but I'd never got round to watching 2 before. It was better than I'd expected (I'd seen some reviews that were disappointed with it). I loved the vintage film of Howard Stark coming over just like Walt Disney - and Black Widow was great, but I now have this alternate version in my head where the other Avengers get involved, and Emma Peel does everything Natasha does, while Steed takes Nick Fury's part.
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Yesterday we went up to London to see Walt Disney's Fatasia (1940) at the British Film Institute on the South Bank.
I last saw it when I was 8.
A number of (popular) claissical music bits are illustrated with cartoons.
The camp bits worked best and are the ones I remembered: Mickey Mouse in Dukas ' The Sorceror's Apprentice and the dancing hippos in tutus for Ponchielli's Dance of the Hours.
Beethoven's Pastoral Symphony with twee centaurs and "centaurettes" was toe curlingly embarrassing.
Posted by lilBuddha (# 14333) on
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I saw a movie today, the third installment of a trilogy, called The Battle of the Five Armies.
After it ended, I turned to my friend and said 'I liked this movie. I shall be happy when they make a screen adaptation of The Hobbit, but I liked this movie'.
Posted by lilBuddha (# 14333) on
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Double post to add it had the most hilarious credit I have ever encountered.
Tolkien Scholar
Best paid 5 minutes of work ever, I should think.
Posted by L'organist (# 17338) on
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Went to see Ridley Scott's Exodus: Gods and Kings which has had mixed reviews.
Not bad, beautiful to look at and Christian Bale does his best as Moses. The plagues are very well done, especially the frogs.
My main complaint is that, as usual, the sound was way too loud: even with earplugs in I still found some scenes painful on the ears.
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lilBuddha - apparently the Tolkien scholar had to read all the unreadable Tolkien works to find additional ideas for padding. I suspect reading The Silmarillion, Unfinished Tales of Numenor and Middle Earth and the epic poetry took longer than 5 minutes.
Posted by Ariel (# 58) on
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Originally posted by L'organist:
My main complaint is that, as usual, the sound was way too loud: even with earplugs in I still found some scenes painful on the ears.
Thanks for that - the almost deafening volume is one of the reasons why I stopped going to the cinema a while ago. If that's still general practice, I'll carry on waiting for the DVDs.
I don't know why it's like that, it never used to be. We live in a noisy age I suppose.
Posted by Eigon (# 4917) on
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Continuing to binge on films, I finally got round to Snow White and the Huntsman.
It was a bit of a mess, really. The special effects were wonderful, but it seemed odd to get all those wonderful British actors like Ian McShane and Ray Winstone and Bob Hoskins (and Nick Frost) in to play dwarfs and then they weren't even in half the movie.
I don't see why the beautiful white horse had to founder in the swamp either - shouldn't he have been taking Snow White to the fairy glade seen later, rather than straight into the nastiest bit of the Dark Forest?
But it was good that, in the final battle, Snow White was useless with a sword. Of course she would have been - she'd been locked up in a tower for years with no opportunity to practice.
Posted by Stetson (# 9597) on
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Originally posted by lilBuddha:
Double post to add it had the most hilarious credit I have ever encountered.
Tolkien Scholar
Best paid 5 minutes of work ever, I should think.
Stranger things...
(Actually, I kinda like that guy. But he is held up as the go-to example for "cheezy inspirational hack".)
Posted by lilBuddha (# 14333) on
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Originally posted by Curiosity killed ...:
lilBuddha - apparently the Tolkien scholar had to read all the unreadable Tolkien works to find additional ideas for padding. I suspect reading The Silmarillion, Unfinished Tales of Numenor and Middle Earth and the epic poetry took longer than 5 minutes.
If you remove all Tolkien reference from the three very long movies, you'd still be left with two long movies. So an exageration, yes, but not a fabrication.
Still, my comment was not targeting the researcher as much as Jackson.
Posted by L'organist (# 17338) on
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As before, today I called our environmental health people and complained about the loudness in our local cinema. If you do this they will make a spot-check visit...
Posted by Jane R (# 331) on
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Saw Penguins of Madagascar on Tuesday (last year, in fact).
Very, very funny. Although I couldn't help wondering how the villain knew in advance where the penguins were going to be...
Also re-watched Van Helsing , a 2004 film starring Hugh Jackman which was a lot of fun despite being outrageously silly.
Posted by Brenda Clough (# 18061) on
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At the behest of my b-i-l the pastor we went to see Exodus. A failure, but not without interest. I am going to post a review of it on the blog.
Posted by Sparrow (# 2458) on
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Originally posted by Mili:
I saw "The Hobbit" part 3 yesterday. I found it better than the first two, but agree that it would be better with much shorter action sequences and if it had been 1 and a 1/2 hours long or even shorter.
I was also annoyed by an added storyline about a dodgy townsman, Alfrid. He was dishonest, greedy, selfish, untrustworthy, cowardly, incompetent and hated by all the townspeople- pretty much a sociopath. But for some reason the hero, Bard kept giving him really important jobs like getting the women and children to safety. Surely someone else in town was better qualified.
Because everyone else remotely qualified - i.e. all the Real Men, had joined up to fight in the battle.
[ 05. January 2015, 21:40: Message edited by: Sparrow ]
Posted by Brenda Clough (# 18061) on
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what annoyed me about Hobbit was that, for such a way long movie, how many plot coupons were not redeemed. what about Bilbo's acorn? We never see him plant it. Shouldn't Alfred have gotten a better come-uppance than just being laughed at?
Posted by Mili (# 3254) on
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And or course no woman could have been in charge in Tolkien's world - though the movie did show Bard was wrong in this opinion and the women didn't exactly listen to Alfrid, instead taking charge themselves.
Posted by Brenda Clough (# 18061) on
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Both Exodus and Hobbit were far, far too long. Minutes devoted to CGI combat that made the pace as logey as a constipated elephant.
Posted by Stetson (# 9597) on
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The other day I stumbled across a copy of Death Of A President, a British-made mockumentary about the obviously fictional assassination of George W. Bush. Some of you may have seen it referenced in relation to the controversy over The Interview last month.
Speaking as someone who generally dislikes mockumentaries, this one was pretty good. For the most part, the "interviewees" seemed like real people, not actors. In my experience, getting that realistic interview feel down is one of the biggest problems in that genre.
Politically, the point is fairly obvious I guess, anti-war, anti-Patriot Act, warnings about blowback etc. But I have to agree with the critic who wrote back in 2006 that the characterizations end up being de facto conservative, in that the pro-Bush characters are mostly portrayed as well-dressed and articulate, whereas the left-wing anti-Bush people(seen mostly in what purports to be news footage of a protest) mostly come off as long-haired, unwashed losers.
Posted by St. Gwladys (# 14504) on
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We went to see Paddington last night - sheer escapism, feel good, light - just the thing for a Saturday evening. (In other words, we enjoyed it!
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Posted by Bene Gesserit (# 14718) on
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I'm sure Skyfall has been mentioned already on this thread - my Other Half and I watched it when it first came out on DVD and we weren't really impressed at all. We've just watched it again and we enjoyed it much more the second time around.
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I went and saw "Selma" today. It has some fine acting and catches a lot of the time. There's some disagreement about how historical the movie portrayed Lyndon Johnson. It's interesting to compare the movie to play "The Great Society". for the roles of Johnson and King.
It marked a high point of the civil rights movement, so there's a lot to admire. The film is good about the cost of the struggle.
Posted by Brenda Clough (# 18061) on
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A good movie weekend, in which we saw INTO THE WOODS in the theater, and TOPSY-TURVY on the TV at home.
ITW is the perfect movie for the Sondheim fan -- it's extremely true to the stage production and lovely to look at. (But, if you had to pick between one and the other, see it on stage.)
TOPSY-TURVY is a valentine to all Gilbert & Sullivan fans everywhere. A great backstage film!
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The Muppetts were on TV over Xmas.
Posted by Pine Marten (# 11068) on
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Originally posted by St. Gwladys:
We went to see Paddington last night - sheer escapism, feel good, light - just the thing for a Saturday evening. (In other words, we enjoyed it!
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We saw Paddington this afternoon - I thoroughly enjoyed it, and it was beautifully filmed too. Absolute escapism, and Hugh Bonneville was just lovely! And I particularly sniggered a lot at Peter Capaldi & Nicole Kidman...
Posted by leo (# 1458) on
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Bridget Jones Diary was light-hearted and amusing.
Posted by Ariel (# 58) on
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Originally posted by leo:
The Muppetts were on TV over Xmas.
Yes - the Muppet Christmas Carol, saw part of this for the first time. Some good lines, but I did feel the whole thing would have been a lot better without the Muppets.
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There was also a film about the return of the Muppetts whewn their museum was threatened by a corporate takeover.
Posted by Sparrow (# 2458) on
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Has anyone else been to see "The Theory of Everthing"? Saw it a couple of weeks ago and I thought it fantastic. Eddie Redmayne in particular was brilliant.
Posted by Gill H (# 68) on
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Just back from Into The Woods. Stunning. We were the only two in the cinema, so it was a private screening!
Still prefer the stage show but this really was superb.
Posted by Brenda Clough (# 18061) on
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I loved it, but agree the stage show is the way to go if you can.
Posted by Palimpsest (# 16772) on
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Stage show trumps the movie of Into the Woods.
I have been fighting an earworm after seeing the movie that mashes together "Children will Listen" with "Anyone can Whistle".
A friend tipped me off to a pilot on Amazon. It's only one pilot episode of a series based on Philip K. Dick's "The Man in The High Castle". They spent a lot of money on visual CGI of an alternate history Nazi/Japanese invaded America. I loved the texture and didn't see any violence to the book as I remember it. I suspect follow up episodes might not be quite so fancy.
Posted by Trudy Scrumptious (# 5647) on
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Originally posted by Sparrow:
Has anyone else been to see "The Theory of Everthing"? Saw it a couple of weeks ago and I thought it fantastic. Eddie Redmayne in particular was brilliant.
Yes, we saw that awhile back, and the whole family (ages 14-78) found it excellent and enjoyable. I then read Jane Hawking's memoir, Travelling to Infinity, which not as good a book as the movie was a movie, but still worth a read.
Posted by Brenda Clough (# 18061) on
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I went to see Exodus: Gods and Kings, and wrote a review: Exodus Review
Posted by Al Eluia (# 864) on
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Originally posted by Ariel:
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Originally posted by leo:
The Muppetts were on TV over Xmas.
Yes - the Muppet Christmas Carol, saw part of this for the first time. Some good lines, but I did feel the whole thing would have been a lot better without the Muppets.
I love the Muppet Christmas Carol, largely because Michael Caine is so good as Scrooge and plays it entirely straight. But also because of the Muppets.
Posted by Palimpsest (# 16772) on
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I saw a new 3-D film "Goodbye to Language" by Goddard. Some interesting camera shots, some painfully aggressive 3-D and some pompous French chit chat.
Posted by Al Eluia (# 864) on
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Originally posted by Palimpsest:
I just saw "The Imitation Game" for the second time. Like the first, it was free tickets so I went with a friend. It's good even if fuzzes the facts a bit and leaves out interesting stuff. I liked the review which complained "for a biography about a homosexual mathematician" there wasn't much homosexuality or math. You don't often get complaints that film didn't have enough math in it.
It did make me go back and reread the Andrew Hodges Biography which I haven't read in many years. He's a fascinating person.
I saw The Imitation Game yesterday. Didn't know much at all about Turing and have read a bit since then. It's no surprise that the filmmakers fictionalized things. Some of the changes are questionable, and I can see why one writer thought a particular plot point essentially slandered Turing. Nevertheless it made clear what a tragedy it is that this brilliant person, who possibly saved millions of lives, was persecuted for his homosexuality when he should have been knighted. And I see that my local library system has long queues of hold requests on pretty much every book on Turing. So if it makes people want to learn more about the real person and his contributions, that's a good thing.
Also, last weekend (MLK Day in the U.S.) I saw Selma, which is excellent. David Oyelowo is amazing as Dr. King. Aaand I saw an older film about race in America, The Thing with Two Heads (1972). Ray Milland plays a bigot whose head is grafted onto the body of a black death row inmate played by Rosie Grier. It's really stupid but fun if you like Grade-Z schlock.
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Enjoyed Mr. Turner, and admired the way in which it attempted to reproduce early nineteenth century speech (how successfully, is for linguistically knowledgeable others to say) instead of settling for having the characters speak English as we do.
Posted by Kaplan Corday (# 16119) on
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Originally posted by Brenda Clough:
ITW is the perfect movie for the Sondheim fan
Sondheim's tunes are like modern praise and worship songs - they all sound the same.
After I left the cinema, i would not have been able to reproduce a few bars of any of them.
Posted by Sir Kevin (# 3492) on
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Originally posted by Sparrow:
Has anyone else been to see "The Theory of Everthing"? Saw it a couple of weeks ago and I thought it fantastic.
We too, missed a showing of it one day and went back to see it on the next. Were it already released to video, we could ship it off to my niece for her birthday on the 29th. SHE wants to be a physicist too! I hope she gets into Cal Tech: her grandfather, my dad got his masters' degree there......
Posted by leo (# 1458) on
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Bridget Jones - the Edge of Reason. Sequel to the diary and equally amusing.
Posted by Curiosity killed ... (# 11770) on
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I'm still seeing films with a teenager - who turned 15 last weekend. Recent list has been:
- Taken 3 - yes, they found more people in his family for him to avenge and set up the premise for Taken 4. Liam Neeson in action hero mode, lots of messy car chases and violence to entertain teenage boys while still being rated for 12 and over here.
- Night at the Museum 3 featuring the British Museum. We followed that one up with a visit to the British Museum to find that all the fun stuff in the Great Hall that came to life in the film had been moved and replaced by information desks. The frogs and statues were there last time I visited, I swear. And yes, I know the dinosaurs are at the Natural History Museum.
- American Sniper the biopic / hagiography of Chris Kyle, Navy Seal who was credited with the most kills in the Iraq war. Uncritical of the army turning men into killing machines, the American presence in Iraq or giving any real context to any Middle Eastern conflicts, it is otherwise well acted and produced, and shows PTSD and dehumanisation of army life, subtly (sailed over the teenager's head). A lot of action in Iraq is shown, which is very atmospheric. A lot of the controversy seems to be revulsion that men are turned into killing machines in the army. Which may be an issue with the next film too:
- Kingsman, a British spy film, sort of tongue-in-cheek updated James Bond with a great cast and effects, lots of blood, gore, a great arsenal and lots of action to satisfy teenage boys. Pygmalion was mentioned as a reference and the spy film genre was winked at several times. Colin Firth enjoying being an action hero and Samuel L Jackson playin villain were fun, but there are a lot of other faces to spot. But again, sanctity of life isn't something that's considered.
He got two films this week as a birthday treat, which is why two 15 films.
Posted by Curiosity killed ... (# 11770) on
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And I forgot the remake of Annie with Jamie Foxx and Cameron Diaz, both of whom gave memorable performances.
Posted by M. (# 3291) on
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We're going to see Shaun the Sheep tomorrow!
M.
Posted by Paul. (# 37) on
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I keep hearing conflicting reports as to whether Kingsman is gory or not. One colleague said it was - which put me off going last weekend. Another said it was violent but most of that was lots of gunfire of the "bang! fall down" variety rather than showing exit wounds etc.
What do you consider gory Ck?
Last week I went to see Ex Machina instead which the BBFC advice said contained "bloody violence". This consisted of a scene where someone slices their own arm with a razor blade - disturbing but brief enough for me to watch through my fingers - and a stabbing where the stabbee was wearing a white T-Shirt which slowly grew red. Any more of the former and I might have been in trouble.
Ex Machina was good btw. Most of what was troubling about it was psychological. Owes a lot to Bladerunner but then so do a lot of movies. Given I've just talked about my tolerance for violence might be worth noting there is significant female nudity in it, though it's mostly not eroticised.
Posted by Curiosity killed ... (# 11770) on
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Not much actual blood - in the fights, yes, but not so much in the deaths; one bloodless death really should have been a bloodbath. There's a huge body count, and like James Bond, some "interesting" ways of killing people.
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Got it. Thanks!
Posted by Lyda*Rose (# 4544) on
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I just saw Still Alice, a film about a woman dealing with early onset Alsheimer's. Great acting by Julianne Moore as Alice and Kristen Stewart as her daughter. (Alec Baldwin as husband- eh.) Sad and very beautiful. Both women may deserve Oscars just for the last scene alone.
Posted by Brenda Clough (# 18061) on
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I went to see the new Hobbit movie. I reviewed it here: Brenda reviews the HOBBIT
Posted by Stetson (# 9597) on
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I went to see Foxcatcher, pretty much minutes after finding out about the film's existence. Which was kinda cool, because it's nice to occassionally go into a film having no idea what to expect.
Interesting to see Steve Carrell doing a darker rendition on his "socially-maladjusted middle-aged guy" film persona. There is virtually nothing funny or light-hearted about the film, though to its credit, it does manage to resist the temptation to wallow in its own bleakness, or congratulate itself too heartily for "daring to expose the American Dream". Given the persona; ideology of the Carrell character, that last bit inevitably comes into play at times.
For the most part, I think it benefited from just giving a likely accurate account of a real series of events.
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Thanks to some Google generosity[*], I watch 3 movies in the last couple of days.
The Obvious Child - this came highly recommended but I was a bit underwhelmed. It has its charm I suppose. Maybe I'm getting too old. Also, I think the male lead is a bit too perfect. If this were gender-swapped and back in the 90s then I still think it'd be criticised for having a romantic lead who's essentially a trophy for the MC to win. That's OK I guess, fair's fair, but it's not very imaginative.
The Rewrite - Hugh Grant romcom. Not his best but not his worst either. Given what I've just said I ought to be harder on this movie but... I pretty much knew going in what level it would be pitched at. And it delivered. Given that I was watching it, wrapped up on the couch, sniffling and sipping lemsip, it fulfilled its purpose.
Gone Girl - Read the book last year with the intent of seeing it at the cinema. The movie is stylish, well-acted, beautifully scored and long. It's actually a very faithful adaptation - hardly surprising given the screenwriter - but that means if you've read the book it feels like takes its sweet time to get to where you know it's going. Definitely worth the watch. Had to look away during one scene though.
[*]If you have a Chromecast, check out the "specials offers" for it.
Posted by iamchristianhearmeroar (# 15483) on
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Last night I finished watching "Once Upon a Time in America" (over several sittings!). What an amazing piece of cinema. It's brutal, shocking, very difficult to watch at times, but I feel myself wanting to watch it again almost straight away! I've rarely felt that about anything.
Posted by Stetson (# 9597) on
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Originally posted by iamchristianhearmeroar:
Last night I finished watching "Once Upon a Time in America" (over several sittings!). What an amazing piece of cinema. It's brutal, shocking, very difficult to watch at times, but I feel myself wanting to watch it again almost straight away! I've rarely felt that about anything.
Amusing anecdote about that film. Being a person of fairly short attention span, I was always put off from watching it by its length. But I knew that it was available at my local dvd room(places where you can pay to rent and watch movies in little rooms; basically make-out parlours), so figured I'd get up the nerve one day.
Anyway, one night I idiotically left my apartment-keys at work, and with no landlord in sight, I figured "Well, guess this is the night for the four-hour gangster flick". So I trudged over to the dvd room to spend the hours between 11 and 3 in watching OUATIA.
And I was glad I did. The Clockwork Orange tribute alone was worth the sleepless night.
[ 10. February 2015, 13:07: Message edited by: Stetson ]
Posted by Pyx_e (# 57) on
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Jupiter Ascending: like running at 400 mph into a wall of sci-fi meringue.
It will change your life.
The Bees know all.
[ 10. February 2015, 18:09: Message edited by: Pyx_e ]
Posted by Sparrow (# 2458) on
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Originally posted by Pyx_e:
Jupiter Ascending: like running at 400 mph into a wall of sci-fi meringue.
It will change your life.
The Bees know all.
I thought it was a complete heap of steaming rubbish. There's two hours of my life wasted!
Posted by Stetson (# 9597) on
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I watched Kingsman, with Colin Firth. Adeuqately entertaining if you're short on options. It's more Harry Potter Meets XXX(as in, the Vin Diesel franchise) than it is James Bond 2.0.
MINOR SPOILERS
It does end on a Bondesque note, with the hero being rewarded with a roll in the hay, albeit one introduced by a rather vulgar proposition. I'm no prude, but there is a time and a place for everything, and the dialgue in question just sorta came out of nowhere.
Posted by Palimpsest (# 16772) on
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I saw "Inside the mind of Leonardo Da Vinci". It's a documentary with Peter Capaldi narrating the words from his notebooks (translated into English).
Capaldi was decent and gave a sense of the writer, but the film was a disappointment. It's in 3D but with the exception of 3 brief scenes it doesn't really show very much at all of the drawings in the notebooks. Instead there are endless shots of river flumes, fields in the mountains of rural Tuscany and shots of Italian cities. Since the notebooks contain spectacular visualizations and examples of how his mind worked, it was extremely frustrating.
Posted by Pine Marten (# 11068) on
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Originally posted by Palimpsest:
I saw "Inside the mind of Leonardo Da Vinci". It's a documentary with Peter Capaldi narrating the words from his notebooks (translated into English).
Capaldi was decent and gave a sense of the writer, but the film was a disappointment. It's in 3D but with the exception of 3 brief scenes it doesn't really show very much at all of the drawings in the notebooks. Instead there are endless shots of river flumes, fields in the mountains of rural Tuscany and shots of Italian cities. Since the notebooks contain spectacular visualizations and examples of how his mind worked, it was extremely frustrating.
I saw this when it was on some time ago, and like Palimpsest, was rather frustrated and underwhelmed.
However, this afternoon we are planning to see the new Shaun the Sheep movie, which should be fun
Posted by Wet Kipper (# 1654) on
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went to see Shaun the Sheep yesterday - fun for all ages !
Posted by leo (# 1458) on
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Telstar: The Joe Meek Story - a record produced who is also bipolar makes a lot of money but kills himself. Based on a true story.
Posted by Pine Marten (# 11068) on
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Originally posted by Wet Kipper:
went to see Shaun the Sheep yesterday - fun for all ages !
Oh yes, it was - and I particularly liked the resemblance between the waiter in the restaurant and a certain Mr Miliband...
Posted by Stetson (# 9597) on
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Who's That Knocking At My Door. Martin Scorsese's first picture.
I went into it thinking it would be mostly of historical interest, for the obvious reasons, but it was actually pretty good, in and of itself. Just when you think you've settled into the technical gist of the film, it throws a few curve balls at you to keep you on your toes.
Overall, it seeems to have one foot in French New Wave, and another in Scorsese's own emerging signature style.
Posted by JoannaP (# 4493) on
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The BFI is having a Katherine Hepburn season and last night we saw Bringing Up Baby. It is surprising how much difference seeing it on a big screen makes. One of those rare occasions when a cinema audience burst into spontaneous applause
Posted by Eutychus (# 3081) on
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Just watched the documentary The Overnighters on Netflix and immediately considered showing it to the prison chaplains I oversee.
This documentary should be required viewing for anyone engaged in social action, with plenty of discussion time afterwards.
Trailer here. Try not to read spoilers to get the film's full impact.
Posted by orfeo (# 13878) on
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Saw Birdman yesterday. Fascinating movie, a little odd in some ways but the oddity is properly integrated into the film as a whole, and it held my interest pretty well the whole way through. Performances are fabulous. Everyone's been talking about Michael Keaton, but both Emma Stone and Edward Norton are just as good.
[ 22. February 2015, 09:32: Message edited by: orfeo ]
Posted by Eigon (# 4917) on
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I picked up a video of Daredevil (the Marvel character) yesterday for 25p. I'd heard it wasn't very good, but for that money it didn't matter.
And it was okay. The chap playing Daredevil/Matt Murdock's legal partner was spot on, the 'fight' between Matt and Elektra in the playground was very well done, and the kid playing Young Matt was brilliant - and Ben Affleck as Daredevil was fine, too.
The film didn't pass the Bechdel Test, though - the only woman in it was Elektra, apart from a previous girlfriend of Matt's who was only heard on the answer phone. And somehow, it didn't quite hit that sweet spot that the more recent Marvel movies have done.
I understand there's going to be a Daredevil TV series soon, which should be interesting.
Posted by Palimpsest (# 16772) on
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I just went and saw the Oscar nominated animated shorts. Me and Moulton and Bus Story were fun. The Disney entry about a puppy with an enormous appetite was ok.
Several were darker. A British one about two brothers taking care of their invalid mother was interesting but kept getting into destroying the frame. I didn't really like the Plimpton entry like I usually do.
Posted by ChastMastr (# 716) on
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Originally posted by Stetson:
I watched Kingsman, with Colin Firth.
I'm tempted to say that the concerns with (stuff in spoilers) are likely because it's based on work by Mark Millar, who did Kick-Ass and the like. He's one of my least favorite comics writers of all time, I'm sorry to say.
Posted by Sparrow (# 2458) on
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I've just seen a trailer for a new SF movie about a robot, called CHAPPIE.
No way will I be able to take that seriously. When I was growing up Chappie was the name of a brand of dog food, specially formulated for little doggies!
Posted by Curiosity killed ... (# 11770) on
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We saw Project Almanac this week, which had a lot of interesting ideas. Not sure the science was thought through enough and I found the hand held camera schtick boring by half an hour in, but there were some nice bits and a number of themes - time travel, unforeseen effects, teenage coming of age in a sweet way, friendship ...
Posted by Bene Gesserit (# 14718) on
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We watched Best Exotic Marigold Hotel yesterday - I absolutely loved it!
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Not sure if this counts as a movie, but thought I should put it somewhere on the Ship, since who knows how long it will be available...
India's Daughter
It probably does not need to be said that parts of it are fairly unpleasant to watch.
Posted by Pigwidgeon (# 10192) on
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Originally posted by Bene Gesserit:
We watched Best Exotic Marigold Hotel yesterday - I absolutely loved it!
Looking forward to the Second Best Exotic Marigold Hotel which opens today, but I won't be able to see it until next week! (I plan to re-watch the first one on DVD before going to see the second.)
Posted by ChastMastr (# 716) on
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We watched Sharknado 2 last night! It was amusing.
Posted by Bene Gesserit (# 14718) on
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Originally posted by Pigwidgeon:
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Originally posted by Bene Gesserit:
We watched Best Exotic Marigold Hotel yesterday - I absolutely loved it!
Looking forward to the Second Best Exotic Marigold Hotel which opens today, but I won't be able to see it until next week! (I plan to re-watch the first one on DVD before going to see the second.)
We're going to wait and see Marigold II on DVD - neither of us is ever sure how good the sequel to a given film is going to be!
Posted by Trudy Scrumptious (# 5647) on
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Marigold 2 was worth seeing in the theatre to me because no matter how flimsy the plot (and it was a bit), I still love all the actors AND the setting so much, it's worth just gazing at them all on the big screen!
Posted by Bene Gesserit (# 14718) on
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Yesterday's treat (courtesy of my Other Half's LoveFilm subscription) was The Boxtrolls - wonderfully done stop-motion animation.
The Boxtroll song has been my earworm all day!
Posted by lilBuddha (# 14333) on
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Saw Interstellar. I'll leave no spoilers and my only comment is that I now wish to kick Hans Zimmer in his organ.
Posted by Twilight (# 2832) on
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Saw Birdman yesterday. Fascinating movie, a little odd in some ways but the oddity is properly integrated into the film as a whole, and it held my interest pretty well the whole way through. Performances are fabulous. Everyone's been talking about Michael Keaton, but both Emma Stone and Edward Norton are just as good.
I had really looked forward to this, because I've always liked Michael Keaton and thought he was under rated. I'm also a huge fan of Edward Norton and his other movie with Naomi Watts, The Painted Veil, is a favorite of mine.
I was disappointed. I've never been crazy about Hollywood/Broadway's tendency to navel gaze. Movies and plays about the noble art of acting get on my nerves a little bit. Even, to me, the greatest one, All About Eve has the scene where they're all sitting on the stairs talking about acting as though it was more self-sacrificing and beneficial to society than anything Jonas Salk ever did.
The film's hatred for critics was laughable. So was the critic's conclusion that what the theatre needs is more real blood on the stage.
The film was shot through with "magical realism." For the most part, it was hard to say if the supernatural moments were supposed to be actually happening or delusions of the character.
What I found almost unbearable was the sound track, made up entirely of drums and cymbals. It was like trying to hear dialogue while someone banged pots and pans together.
Still, as Orfeo has said, the acting was great and the style of the film put one very much inside the story. Rotten Tomatoes and Metacritic give this the highest rating I think I've ever seen. User reviews on IMBD range from ten stars to one star. It's a puzzler.
Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on
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Originally posted by Twilight:
I was disappointed. I've never been crazy about Hollywood/Broadway's tendency to navel gaze. Movies and plays about the noble art of acting get on my nerves a little bit. Even, to me, the greatest one, All About Eve has the scene where they're all sitting on the stairs talking about acting as though it was more self-sacrificing and beneficial to society than anything Jonas Salk ever did.
Yebbut, wasn't the self-absorption part of what we were supposed to be laughing at? Not that they were navel-gazing, but the silly things they came up with when they tried to navel-gaze. Even their attempts to be deep were shallow!
In other words, I get the feeling I really need to see Birdman.
Posted by Twilight (# 2832) on
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You really do Kelly, you're our resident Roger Ebert.
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( so not worthy)
Posted by Brenda Clough (# 18061) on
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What do you feel happened at the end? Was it factual? I have argued that Birdman is simply the origin story of the latest super hero.
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on
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Bessy mate from UK brought me a few movies when he came over and now he has gone I have more time to watch them. Yesterday it was Michael Palin and Maggie Smith [and Trevor Howard, Michael Hordern, Phoebe Daniels, Denholm Elliot, etc. in The Missionary - surely one of the funniest British films in years though it's a bit long in the tooth these days.
Brilliant!
Later in the week it will be Rita Moreno in The Ritz - her tribute from Terence McNally. Googie Gomez gets me every time!
Posted by Heavenly Anarchist (# 13313) on
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Last week we watched Delicatessan (my all time favourite film) and City of Lost Children with our kids as my eldest is really into dystopias at the moment.
Posted by Twilight (# 2832) on
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Originally posted by Brenda Clough:
What do you feel happened at the end? Was it factual? I have argued that Birdman is simply the origin story of the latest super hero.
I thought maybe his daughter was sharing his delusion that he could fly for a moment. I like your version.
Posted by Stetson (# 9597) on
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I watched the Guy Ritchie Sherlock Holmes the other night. Not generally a fan of Ritchie, who often seems like he's scraping the rim of Tarantino's toilet bowl. And I did not come away from Sherlock Holmes pleasantaly surprised.
Did people actually think this was good? It's like a knock-em-down action movie, propped up by Hollywood Victorianism and quasi-masonic conspiracy theories.
And the screenwriters at one point have the American ambassador to the UK referred to as "the Ambassador to America".
At least Murder By Decree had some camp value.
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Posted by L'organist (# 17338) on
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Woman in Gold with Helen Mirren and Ryan Reynolds.
True-life story of how Maria Altmann got back some of her family's paintings that had been looted after the Anschluss; the family were wealthy patrons of the arts and friends with many painters and composers. The Woman in Gold of the title is Maria Altmann's aunt, Adele Bloch-Bauer, in a Klimt portrait sometimes described as the Austrian Mona Lisa.
Although she eventually got back five paintings, there were many more things that just vanished, including the Stradivarius 'cello her father used to play and the diamond necklace that Adele B-B is wearing in the most famous portrait (it ended up around the neck of Goering's wife).
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on
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Earlier this week I happened to look and found that the DVD of the last instalment of The Hobbit was available for a very reasonable price. I ordered it and it arrived in very good time, getting here just this morning. I spent the afternoon watching it and have to say that I have wasted 2 hours 18 minutes of my life watching the most utter drivel! Tolkien must be spinning in his grave!
What a waste of just over 500 Rupees!
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The case has been made that, by cutting and pasting all three Hobbit movies and keeping =only= what was in the original Tolkien work, that one could achieve quite a decent movie of an endurable length. Doing this is of course a violation of copyright, but versions can be found on the internet.
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on
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I've just spent the afternoon in front of the TV watching my DVD of Aamir Khan's PK - what an excellent movie! It's a sort of latter day and more grown up ET - and is both funny and moving.
Okay, it's very much a Bollywood production - and a very high quality one. Appropriately for The Ship one of the major themes is religion and religious tolerance.
If you get the chance, watch it and let me know what you think.
Posted by Polly (# 1107) on
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Family visit to see The Avengers at the cinema.
If you liked the last one then this will be of interest.
Posted by SvitlanaV2 (# 16967) on
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Anyone planning to see 'Far from the Madding Crowd'? It opens in the UK today.
Posted by Brenda Clough (# 18061) on
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I am going to go and see it, either this weekend or next.
Posted by SvitlanaV2 (# 16967) on
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I can't remember if I've read the book yet, so I'll do that first then see the film later.
Posted by Pine Marten (# 11068) on
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Originally posted by Polly:
Family visit to see The Avengers at the cinema.
If you liked the last one then this will be of interest.
Mr Marten and I saw this the other day. I love the Avengers films, and this didn't disappoint, although I lost the plot at times... I did miss Loki not being in it however
Posted by Curiosity killed ... (# 11770) on
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I enjoyed The Avengers too. Lots of action and convoluted plot.
Which made a pleasant change from the previous few films selected by the teenage boy: Fast and Furious 7, Focus and Get Hard all of which were high on action, low on plot, and in the case of Get Hard stuffed with crude and unsubtle penis jokes and far too much sight of the organ in question. It was a 15, so I really wasn't expecting to be faced with flaccid flesh.
Focus was a heist movie and didn't bring anything new to the party, other than demonstrating various pick-pocketing techniques to entirely the wrong audience and Fast and Furious 7 was as to be expected, lots of action, including a pretty cool, if improbable, sequence stealing a car from a Saudi penthouse. It came complete with dedication to Paul Walker and continues to show street racing as a good and exciting sport even though it killed the original star. Mind you, they did show damage to quite a few of the cast.
Posted by Brenda Clough (# 18061) on
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We went to see Far From the Madding Crowd which just opened this weekend in the US. The theater was surprisingly full. It immediately struck me how very many things this film does not have in common with Avengers. No explosions (although there was a prospect of an exploding sheep it did not actually go off), no tights, no robotic armor, no flying vehicles. However there was property damage, and world-shaking decisions.
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Watched It Follows. Enjoyable, low-key but still pretty spooky horror/ghost movie. Mercifully avoided the loud blasts of ominous music and gaudy CGI that so blight other current manifestations of the genre.
I'm trying to think of an "If you liked X, you'd like this" formulation, but it's hard, because the film is pretty different from other contemporary horror flicks. It's a BIT like the Ring-esque Asian stuff, but even that's misleading, since it doesn't go for quite the same shocking visuals and convoluted plotlines. I think "Let's Scare Jessica To Death", which some of you old-timers may remember from the 70s, is the closest comparison.
And hours of debate to be had about socioeconomic stratification in 21st Century Detroit.
Posted by Twilight (# 2832) on
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Originally posted by Brenda Clough:
We went to see Far From the Madding Crowd which just opened this weekend in the US. The theater was surprisingly full. It immediately struck me how very many things this film does not have in common with Avengers. No explosions (although there was a prospect of an exploding sheep it did not actually go off), no tights, no robotic armor, no flying vehicles. However there was property damage, and world-shaking decisions.
Well compared, Brenda! When we go to the multiplex I usually watch the first few minutes of something like the Avengers with my husband and son before slipping down the hall to watch something like, "Madding" with a few other lone women. I totally get the culture shock.
I still remember the Julie Christie version of "Far From the Madding Crowd," and more recently there was a Keely Hawes version on TV. I love Hardy and love how he loves his leading ladies. I'll be checking this one out I'm sure.
Saw, The Imitation Game, absolutely riveting, infuriating, and astonishing.
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The problem here is that they often put the chick-flick next to the action flick. Gentle orchestral music, silent, meaningful gazes in my theater, then through the wall comes... pow! Pow! CRASH! KABLOOEY!!
:sigh:
Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on
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Originally posted by Stetson:
I think "Let's Scare Jessica To Death", which some of you old-timers may remember from the 70s, is the closest comparison.
Oooooooo! (Takes notice.)
Posted by Pine Marten (# 11068) on
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The other day I watched a dvd of the 1940 version of Gaslight, with Anton Walbrook and Diana Wynyard. It was very atmospheric and Walbrook was a creepy and believable villain, attempting to drive his wife to madness.
One of the best things about it was that I could actually *hear* every word of dialogue - they were obviously well trained actors who didn't mumble. I know I'm getting old but I'm getting increasingly annoyed when I have to turn the volume right up and *still* can't understand half the film because of sloppy diction
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Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on
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Originally posted by Pine Marten:
...One of the best things about it was that I could actually *hear* every word of dialogue - they were obviously well trained actors who didn't mumble. I know I'm getting old but I'm getting increasingly annoyed when I have to turn the volume right up and *still* can't understand half the film because of sloppy diction
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Hear, hear!
I have a problem with my hearing such that I use subtitles when available but in older movies like Brief Encounter or Goodbye Mr Chips I find them quite unnecessary.
Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on
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Originally posted by Pine Marten:
The other day I watched a dvd of the 1940 version of Gaslight, with Anton Walbrook and Diana Wynyard. It was very atmospheric and Walbrook was a creepy and believable villain, attempting to drive his wife to madness.
Wow, the Boyer / Bergman version is one of my favorite films-- shall have to check out this version.
Posted by Twilight (# 2832) on
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I just watched August: Osage County. Whew. It was like our, "Difficult relatives," thread come to life. I feel like I've been through the wringer, but it was riveting and the acting was Oscar worthy by everyone. Sam Shepherd and Chris Cooper are long time favorites of mine.
Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on
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Originally posted by Twilight:
I just watched August: Osage County. Whew. It was like our, "Difficult relatives," thread come to life.
Right? RIGHT???
Meryl Streep was riveting. "Ah'm jest truth tellin'!"
Posted by Bene Gesserit (# 14718) on
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My Other Half and I saw Avengers: Age of Ultron yesterday. It's a perfectly servicable shoot-em-up, but they needed a better Sound Engineer - preferably the one who engineered The 5th Element. The sound was overloud - not necessarily the Director's fault, but it was also over-trebly and very harsh.
Posted by Palimpsest (# 16772) on
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The Seattle International Film Festival started this last weekend and while the new day job is cutting into watching I did see a few.
"Spy" is a comic big scale spy thriller with women as the leads. Featuring the star and director of "Bridesmaids"
There was a documentary
Tab Hunter Confidential" about the " 50's and 60's B Movie star. He was a teen girl heart throb who naturally was Gay and in the closet. His partner is a film producer and made a very flattering portrait. I hadn't seen much of his earlier work but he's a beautiful man with many other talents. He was at the screening looking remarkable for an 80 year old.
"When Marnie was there" is a new animated feature from Studio Ghibli about an orphan who has memories of a ghost girl and a deserted marsh house.
"Gemma Bovary" is a Modern French Comedy about an English Woman in France who's life begins to resemble the story "Madame Bovary".
"Snow on the Blades" is a film about Samurai and a quest for vengeance. However it's set in the beginning of the modern Meiji period when the role of the Samurai is obsolete.
"Me and Earl and the Dying Girl" Is yet another Young Adult film about cancer. It's made much livelier by the little weird parodies of classic films that the hero and his friend make such as "Sock work Orange"
"Romeo is Bleeding" is a documentary about the making of a modern Inner City version of Romeo in a Bay Area city where many people have been killed by gang warfare.
Much more to follow.
Posted by St. Gwladys (# 14504) on
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We're going to see the English National Opera perform Pirates of Penzance tomorrow. The performance is being screened in the cinema.
Posted by ArachnidinElmet (# 17346) on
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Originally posted by Palimpsest:
"Gemma Bovary" is a Modern French Comedy about an English Woman in France who's life begins to resemble the story "Madame Bovary".
Is this an adaptation of the Posey Simmonds (author of Tamara Drew) graphic novel of the same name?
Posted by Curiosity killed ... (# 11770) on
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I saw Big Game last week - lots of subtitled Finnish to start with, which amused me along with lots of shots of Finnish scenery and Northern Finnish traditions. Not sure I've ever seen a Finnish film before. It was quite sweet and very tongue in cheek. (I didn't choose it, teenage boy did.)
Posted by jedijudy (# 333) on
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Originally posted by Curiosity killed ...:
I saw Big Game last week - lots of subtitled Finnish to start with, which amused me along with lots of shots of Finnish scenery and Northern Finnish traditions. Not sure I've ever seen a Finnish film before. It was quite sweet and very tongue in cheek. (I didn't choose it, teenage boy did.)
Thanks for mentioning that! I'll have to look for it, and dream of lovely Finland!
Posted by Palimpsest (# 16772) on
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Originally posted by ArachnidinElmet:
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Originally posted by Palimpsest:
"Gemma Bovary" is a Modern French Comedy about an English Woman in France who's life begins to resemble the story "Madame Bovary".
Is this an adaptation of the Posey Simmonds (author of Tamara Drew) graphic novel of the same name?
Yes.
Posted by lilBuddha (# 14333) on
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They are doing Peter Pan live action. And it looks amazing!
Posted by jedijudy (# 333) on
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My ninety-six year old friend and I saw "Cinderella". Bless her sweet heart, it's a good thing the theater was almost empty! She has Alzheimer's, and forgets that she shouldn't talk out loud at a movie. She kept saying, "It's a fairy tale!" Yes it is! And a well-made one IMHO.
The location is gorgeous, the costumes are to die for, and the acting sucked me in.
It's OK to know the story beforehand. It's OK that it mirrors the Disney cartoon movie, because it is, of course, Disney.
What a fun time we had together! Two friends, having an afternoon of light fun, without straining our brains, such as they are.
Posted by Wet Kipper (# 1654) on
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I was one of about 6 men in a cinema full of women watching Pitch Perfect 2 last night - I quite enjoyed it - especially the OTT German accents...
Posted by St. Gwladys (# 14504) on
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Pirates of Penzance was brilliant! It did seem strange to have an interval in a film and have some of the audience applaud.
Posted by M. (# 3291) on
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Not cinema - but we went to see Pirates at the Coliseum on
Saturday and yes, it was briiliant!
Except we moaned about the cameras whizzing about in front of us and distracting us....
M.
Posted by Curiosity killed ... (# 11770) on
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I saw Mad Max: Fury Road today - it was a Mad Max film with added amazing locations, amazing effects ...
Posted by Robert Armin (# 182) on
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Was disappointed by the latest Avengers offering, to be honest. Plot jumped about a lot (what was it with Thor and the pool), and the battle scenes went on forever. Maybe it's because I was less than gripped, that I noticed almost all the civilians in the first half of the film were black - which really highlighted how many of the heroes were. None. The new lineup revealed at the end seems to be addressing this issue, but I'm not sure it works. Heroes like Warhorse seem to be in the "Let's take a major hero and produce a more boring version of him" mould, which is as patronising in my mind as the endless line of "Let's take a major hero and produce a female version of him" products we've seen over the years.
Posted by Golden Key (# 1468) on
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Just watched a movie on TV: "The Pope Must Diet". It's about a priest who accidentally becomes pope, in a situation of great corruption. It's a comedy and something of a spoof, but there's a lot more to it than that.
I wonder if Pope Francis has seen it? I suspect he'd like it.
Posted by Twilight (# 2832) on
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Friendly Persuasion, was on TCM yesterday, so I watched, remembering how much I had liked it as a little girl. It also had really high ratings on IMBD and Rotten Tomatoes.
Well, right of the bat, there was the funny goose and little boy scene I remembered. It was all down hill from there. Everybody said "thee," in almost every sentence, far more than one might say, "you," but that was to remind us they were Quakers, I guess. There was a creepy scene where a bunch of randy hillbilly women were crawling all over Tony Perkins. Well any scene with Tony Perkins is creepy, but this was unrealistic and out of place, yet supposed to be funny, I guess.
The movie couldn't seem to decide if it wanted to be a Walt Disney, musical, a slap stick comedy or a deep drama about religion and ethics.
It's the religion and ethics part that was just awful. All the Quakers dropped their pacifist convictions at the very first moment of being put to the test. The movie made it perfectly clear that they had all dropped their silly notions and come to their senses. Quakers everywhere should have boycotted this thing.
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Posted by Paul. (# 37) on
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"What We Do In The Shadows" is a mock documentary about vampires sharing a flat in New Zealand. The joke is that they have the same petty squabbles, mundane failures and triumphs as anyone else (arguing over the chores rota). Even when there are issues arising from their supernatural lifestyle, they are portrayed as analogous to more ordinary ones - trash-talking rather than fighting with the local werewolf gang, the idea that turning someone else's human friend into a vampire is a faux pas akin to dating someone else's ex-.
And so on.
It was kind of fun, but I felt the joke was stretched thin to last 90mins. And there was a shaky-cam sequence with a real fight scene that left me dizzy and nauseous. Not bad though.
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Nightwatch (1994). The Danish version with Jaime Lennister playing a young student who takes a job as a night watchman at the forensic institute while a serial killer is murdering women in Copenhagen. The student eventually becomes the prime suspect.
The scenes in the institute at night were proper creepy, mostly because of the atmosphere and what went on in my mind, with only a few shock effects. Some dark humor, too.
I rather enjoyed it. It is an old film but I missed it in the cinema then and it's now available on DVD and online.
Posted by Pine Marten (# 11068) on
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Originally posted by Curiosity killed ...:
I saw Mad Max: Fury Road today - it was a Mad Max film with added amazing locations, amazing effects ...
We're off to our local Odeon in about 45 mins to see this - it's had such good reviews I couldn't resist...
Posted by Palimpsest (# 16772) on
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More from the Seattle International Film Festival.
Friday I saw a film full of clips of early technology and science fiction with a snarky narration by Tilda Swinton.
Saturday I saw "I am Michael" a film about a gay activist who becomes a conservative preacher. It was far kinder to him than he deserved. I then saw "Our Summer in Provence" about three children forced to spend the summer with the grumpy Grandfather in Provence. Sappy and clichéd, although the deaf 8 year old was a good actor.
Sunday I saw two of the Apu Trilogy and then a French film "Vincent" about a man who gets super strength when he gets underwater. Interesting as a metaphor.
Today I saw "Satellite Girl and Milk Cow" about a satellite that turns into a female version of Astro Boy and a musician who is turned into a cow. And there's a wizard who has been transformed into a roll of toilet paper. It was interesting but left me feeling I just didn't understand the references.
There was a documentary about people all over the world trying to make really spectacular steaks. They focused on a Spanish Farmer who raises castrated bulls for 10 to 15 years before slaughtering the.
Tommorrow I have to decide if I'm going to stay up late and see a screening of "Footloose" which is part of the Kevin Bacon retrospective.
Another two weeks of films to go...
Posted by Pine Marten (# 11068) on
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Originally posted by Pine Marten:
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Originally posted by Curiosity killed ...:
I saw Mad Max: Fury Road today - it was a Mad Max film with added amazing locations, amazing effects ...
We're off to our local Odeon in about 45 mins to see this - it's had such good reviews I couldn't resist...
Gosh, it was amazing alright, and Charlize Theron was way ahead the hero of the story, Max himself playing second fiddle somewhat. I enjoyed it, but was more excited by the trailer for the new Terminator film coming out soon...
And now a completely different thing: the other day I caught the 1952 Ealing film Mandy on TV, and was very pleased to see it again. I did an OU Honours degree some years back, and wrote on the history of post-war cinema, concentrating on Alexander Mackendrick, who directed Mandy, which is about a young deaf girl and her mother's efforts to get her to be taught to speak and to be treated like 'normal' children.
It sounds rather earnest but in fact it's a very interesting film, and has a lovely performance from 6 year old Mandy Miller (not deaf in real life!), as well as having a good adult cast.
Posted by L'organist (# 17338) on
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posted by Golden Key quote:
Just watched a movie on TV: "The Pope Must Diet"
The film was based on some of the more outlandish (or not?) conspiracy theories around the death of Pope John-Paul I - hence its proper title The Pope must die. It was only because of an outcry by RCs in the USA that the film title was altered there with the addition of a 'T' but in fact the film itself wasn't altered at all. A little difficulty in the UK was soon ironed out by publicising it as "Robbie Coltrane is The Pope".
Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on
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Originally posted by Twilight:
Well, right of the bat, there was the funny goose and little boy scene I remembered. It was all down hill from there. Everybody said "thee," in almost every sentence, far more than one might say, "you," but that was to remind us they were Quakers, I guess. There was a creepy scene where a bunch of randy hillbilly women were crawling all over Tony Perkins. Well any scene with Tony Perkins is creepy, but this was unrealistic and out of place, yet supposed to be funny, I guess.
Actually, the naive farmboy was Perkins typical person pre-Psycho, which is why Hitchcock wanted him as Norman Bates. He wanted audiences to think," oh, it's just Tony Perkins, he's harmless" so that the mayhem would shock them.
Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on
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Originally posted by Twilight:
Well, right of the bat, there was the funny goose and little boy scene I remembered. It was all down hill from there. Everybody said "thee," in almost every sentence, far more than one might say, "you," but that was to remind us they were Quakers, I guess. There was a creepy scene where a bunch of randy hillbilly women were crawling all over Tony Perkins. Well any scene with Tony Perkins is creepy, but this was unrealistic and out of place, yet supposed to be funny, I guess.
Actually, the naive farmboy was Perkins typical person pre-Psycho, which is why Hitchcock wanted him as Norman Bates. He wanted audiences to think," oh, it's just Tony Perkins, he's harmless" so that the mayhem would shock them.
Posted by lilBuddha (# 14333) on
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It is interesting how our introduction to some actors colours our view of them permanently. I would love to develop a movie which plays with type-casting in a creative way,
Posted by Stetson (# 9597) on
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It is interesting how our introduction to some actors colours our view of them permanently.
Yeah, it would be interesting to see what image someone would have of Jack Nicholson, if they only knew him from King Of Marvin Gardens, where he plays a decidedly non-"Jack" role.
Granted, there likely aren't very many people who have seen that movie, but nothing else with Nicholson.
Posted by Trudy Scrumptious (# 5647) on
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I always find it fascinating when an actor seems only to ever be able to, or ever get to, play a single type of character. I wonder how much is type-casting and how much is that particular actor's lack of range. For example, I've seen young Michael Cera in Arrested Development, Juno, and Scott Pilgrim, and he appears to be playing a character I've come to think of as "Michael Cera" in every one of them. Of course he's a mere child yet so perhaps he will branch out (or already has and I just haven't seen it) but I do wonder what happens to actors like that when their one stock character is based on a sort of youthful bumbling innocence/charm, when they age out of being able to do that.
I'm much more impressed by actors who can play a wide range of roles and make you forget that you ever saw them in anything else.
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There are also those actors whose performance is so generic they fit into many roles and appear better than they are. They Dance through historical dramas, feeling their performance is Untouchable. But really they are just Posting it in, Robing viewers and other actors of better work.
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That make me laugh so hard my desk chair is a Waterworld
Posted by Palimpsest (# 16772) on
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More from the film festival.
I saw "Eisenstein in Guanajuato" by Peter Greenaway. Shot in Mexico with a fair amount of naked gay sex and day of the dead imagery it was pretty odd.
There was also an odd Italian silent movie; "love amongst the ruins" about World War 1. It's actually a mockumentary about an imaginary film.
I also saw a Chinese silent film that had been lost for 90 years; The Cave of the Spider Women. It was followed by a Run Run Shaw 1970 version. Although it has demons and the Monkey King, it's based on a 16h century Chinese novel, "The Journey West". The same book was the basis of a Japanese television cartoon series called "Monkey".
Today I saw the new Aardman cartoon "Shaun the Sheep". It was really funny.
Two more days to go.
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... Peter Greenaway...it was pretty odd.
Wow, it's good to know Greenaway is still keeping the odd flowing.
Posted by Curiosity killed ... (# 11770) on
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I hoped my student would choose to see Shaun the Sheep but he reckoned he was too old for that one (pout). It wasn't totally unfounded, he did choose Annie and Paddington. London had some really fun decorated Shaun the Sheep models for the last couple of months - I kept meaning to follow the trail but haven't had time and when I raced past where a few were last night they'd gone.
We got to see San Andreas this week, which would have been much improved with a less wooden lead actor and fewer plot holes. Even the 15 year old, who is not community minded, commented that if everyone deserted their posts in an emergency to rush off to rescue their wives and daughters there would be chaos. The special effects were cool but the science wasn't great. I will, however, be using it to teach the earth sciences unit of his science, partly to correct the misapprehensions.
(Last week was half term, so no film, just lots of theatre and shows instead.)
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Today I saw three films. One I liked a lot was called "Pardon my French" about a 12 year old precocious Coptic Christian boy who is forced to attend a Muslim majority Egyptian public school;
Some brutality but a lot of humor as well. I especially enjoyed the part where he is concealing his Christian identity and wins the Koranic chanting contest.
Posted by jedijudy (# 333) on
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Went with two friends to see Far from the Madding Crowd yesterday. The landscapes were just lovely! (Which fits the bill for both of those friends who love to travel.) I'm glad we saw it. Even though I was yelling at Bathsheba in my mind, telling her to get a grip, and, can't she see that he's No Good???!
Gah!
I guess it's the sign of a good movie and good acting when they can get such an emotional response from their audience!
Posted by Stetson (# 9597) on
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Finally saw The Maltese Falcon(Huston, 1941). Hate to say this, 'cuz I know it's supposed to be this great classic of film noir and everything, but I was pretty underwhelmed.
Like other Huston films I've seen, it was long-winded, with what seemed like endless discussion of the intricacies of the criminal plot. Said discussions being somewhat pointless, since the whole thing is just a maguffin anyway.
And that maguffin doesn't really set up anything of much interest. I never really felt myself "hooked" into the story, as one should with a good thriller. It was really just seemed like a bunch of conversations about business and money, with a few scenes of violence interjected every little while.
There was nothing really menacing about the villains either. The portly erudtie Brit and the weasely Frenchman seemed like stock "jewel heist" baddies.
I guess people really take to the Bogartian private dick character, but it's been copied, tributed, and parodied so many times since, I guess I guess I came to it at the wrong time in my life as a film-viewer.
Oh well. I didn't have very high expectations to begin with, being, as I say, a long-standing non-fan of John Huston. Mostly just watched it to be able to say that I had. And now I can.
[ 07. June 2015, 15:49: Message edited by: Stetson ]
Posted by lilBuddha (# 14333) on
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Originally posted by Stetson:
Finally saw The Maltese Falcon(Huston, 1941). Hate to say this, 'cuz I know it's supposed to be this great classic of film noir and everything, but I was pretty underwhelmed.
Like other Huston films I've seen, it was long-winded, with what seemed like endless discussion of the intricacies of the criminal plot. Said discussions being somewhat pointless, since the whole thing is just a maguffin anyway.
And that maguffin doesn't really set up anything of much interest. I never really felt myself "hooked" into the story, as one should with a good thriller. It was really just seemed like a bunch of conversations about business and money, with a few scenes of violence interjected every little while.
There was nothing really menacing about the villains either. The portly erudtie Brit and the weasely Frenchman seemed like stock "jewel heist" baddies.
I guess people really take to the Bogartian private dick character, but it's been copied, tributed, and parodied so many times since, I guess I guess I came to it at the wrong time in my life as a film-viewer.
Oh well. I didn't have very high expectations to begin with, being, as I say, a long-standing non-fan of John Huston. Mostly just watched it to be able to say that I had. And now I can.
Style, preference, expectation and timing are as important to the viewing of film as the construction and execution.
Even Citizen Kane, which often tops critics lists of the greatest films ever, isn't accessible to the average, modern viewer.
I guess what I am saying is that your conclusion is valid even though you are hopelessly, irrevocably and completely wrong.
[ 07. June 2015, 16:03: Message edited by: lilBuddha ]
Posted by Stetson (# 9597) on
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Even Citizen Kane, which often tops critics lists of the greatest films ever, isn't accessible to the average, modern viewer.
Well, I would qualify as a modern viewer, and I've found Citizen Kane quite enjoyable, even if I can recognize that it might have packed a bigger punch in 1941.
Posted by lilBuddha (# 14333) on
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Well then, perhaps you are better than average.
I think the statement still stands, though. There is more to an experience than the object of that experience.
Posted by Stetson (# 9597) on
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There is more to an experience than the object of that experience.
True, but like I say, I haven't enjoyed the Huston thrillers I've seen, but I have enjoyed most of the Hitchcocks.
So, I could maybe conclude that there is something about MY sensibilities in particular that makes me enjoy HITCHCOCK'S films, and dislike HUSTON'S. It's not just a question of whatever random mood I happen to be in when I watch the movies(otherwise my enjoyment would be more evenly divided between the two directors).
Speaking of Hitchcock, and those Top 100 lists you were mentioning, there was that one a few years back where Citizen Kane was knocked from its perch by Vertigo. Some commentators attributed this to more women critics in the voting bloc, Citizen Kane supposedly being more of a "guy" film, Vertigo more of a "chick flick".
A friend of mine feels the same way about Vertigo as I do about the Maltese Falcon, thinks it's dreadfully boring. I have to admit, it's the least memorable of the Hitchcocks I've seen. After two viewings, I can't remember more than a couple of scenes from it.
Posted by lilBuddha (# 14333) on
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The Birds. I am a Hitchcock fan, but I just cannot connect to this film. I should really view it again to ascertain why, but I haven't been able to bring myself to do so.
Posted by Stetson (# 9597) on
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The Birds. I am a Hitchcock fan, but I just cannot connect to this film. I should really view it again to ascertain why, but I haven't been able to bring myself to do so.
These days, I think it's more interesting on a thematic level than a technical, or even a suspense, one. The special effects haven't aged well at all, even as camp.
Coincidentally, I wrote a brief analysis of the film somewhere on these boards a few weeks back. Something to do with the possible romance between Hedren and Taylor disrupting the natural order of the town.
(I'll be a bit immodest and say that I came up with that without reading other critics, though the basic idea is pretty strongly implied in the script.)
For technique, I did like the scene where Rod Taylor is waiting outside the school, and the birds start to assemble for an attack behind him. Especially the music: "She oombs her hair just once a year..."
[ 08. June 2015, 06:56: Message edited by: Stetson ]
Posted by Palimpsest (# 16772) on
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I'm now in remedial film festival now; going to the "best of the festival" encore showings of films I missed during the festival.
Friday I saw "Liza the Fox Fairy" a dark comedy about a Hungarian women who thinks she's a Japanese Fox fairy because all the men around her are being killed. With Death as a ghost of a Japanese Pop Star.
Today I saw "Charlies Country" a moving film about an Australian Aborigine trying to cope with takeover of his society. Some amazing acting.
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I haven't been to the cinema in years; I watch films sometimes on the airplane. On last month's trip I saw two Science Fiction films: Interstellar and Jupiter Ascending. I liked the former, the latter not so much.
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on
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Last night I had a wallow in a movie and watched Midnight in Paris again - lovely movie and beautifully evocative of a city I have never visited.
Posted by Sir Kevin (# 3492) on
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My daughter treated me to a showing of Love and Mercy, the film about Brian Wilson and the Beachboys, on Father's Day. My wife and I liked it, but she hated it. We saw them play at San Diego City College when I was a student at San Diego State back in the 70s before we married. Brian can still sing, but we thought the others were a bit past it, even then!
This film is not for everybody, but it does have an upbeat ending: Brian married the car saleslady and now they have had five children together!
Posted by leo (# 1458) on
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'Signed, Sealed and Delivered' - an office that deals with undelivered mail discovers a letter than can change two people's lives - incurable disease, prison, love - a romantic but also exciting story.
Posted by Curiosity killed ... (# 11770) on
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Latest film selection has been:
- Spy, which was fun and silly - Jude Law playing smooth was enjoyable,
- Insidious, Chapter 3 teen horror aimed at girls and does not come recommended; it was a second choice as we were too late for what we really wanted to watch,
- Jurassic World which we saw the following week and for all its 12A certificate had far more really scary moments than Insidious and was definitely worth seeing.
What was noticeable about Spy compared to Kingsman was the strength of the female characters. They were an integral part of the plot rather than a bolted on extra or obligatory token female. Sadly, Jurassic World suffered from the token female feature too, but otherwise was brilliant, great effects and Chris Pratt doing his schtick well.
(I am getting some education in out of this, we got to study earthquakes, tectonic plates and all after San Andreas and we are going to do extinction and genetics following Jurassic World. We did also discuss what would happen if everyone deserted their posts to rescue their families as per Dwayne Johnson's character in San Andreas and get some PSE in. I have also got him to a theatre, the Globe, to see Shakespeare in the last week, so progress is being made.)
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St. Vincent. Garden variety redemption flick, featuring Bill Murray as a cranky old curmudgeon who meets a lonely little boy, and, well, you know where that's going.
Schmaltzy and derivative, but worth seeing for Murray's performance, which admittedly is probably best appreciated in the context of his overall career. In some ways, it's kind of a "meta"-performance.
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My son and I went to see the new Pixar movie, Inside Out. It was utterly delightful, and I recommend it.
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Prisoners, about the search for two abducted girls.
I went into this somewhat optimistically, thinking it might not devolve into the usual convoluted plotlines and non-sequtorial weirdness that so blight the serial-killer genre.
Boy was I disappointed.
SPOILERS AHEAD
It turns out that the girls were abducted by a religion-hating granny, who devotes her life to kidnapping and murdering children in order to destroy peoples' faith in God. (Maybe all those kids could still be alive if someone had introdued her to Dead Horses.)
The film is still pretty well made, but, as I've said before, the serial-killer genre REALLY needs to bring itself back down to Earth.
[ 28. June 2015, 16:33: Message edited by: Stetson ]
Posted by Bene Gesserit (# 14718) on
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We watched Studio Ghibli's The tale of Princess Kaguya last night - it is utterly charming.
As long-term Ghibli fans, we are thoroughly looking forward to seeing When Marnie was there.
Posted by leo (# 1458) on
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Ted - about a lonely Jewish boy whose teddy bear comes to life and befriends him.
Posted by jedijudy (# 333) on
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Daughter-Unit and I saw Spy about two weeks ago. We both like Melissa McCarthy and dear S-i-L doesn't, so this was an excellent time for mother-daughter fun!
In spite of the f-bombs salting the movie throughout, it was pretty funny! The story line is unbelievable, but entertainment doesn't have to be based in any kind of reality. So, we just sat back and enjoyed the film.
Oh, and stay for the credits if you go.
Posted by Palimpsest (# 16772) on
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Last Saturday I saw a Japanese silent movie with a live orchestra accompaniment.
The film was Ozu's 1934 silent; A story of floating weeds he later remade it as a sound picture. It's about a theatrical troupe that comes to a rural small town.
It was a perfectly restored black and white print.
Ozu has an amazing way of showing people in a realistic fashion.
The performance had a traditional narrator and many unusual instruments.
For me that best part was an evening tryst in a field with the sounds of many crickets made by all of the orchestra whirling a traditional Japanese toy noisemaker. It made the wonderful cinematography perfect.
Posted by Curiosity killed ... (# 11770) on
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Ted - about a lonely Jewish boy whose teddy bear comes to life and befriends him.
Blink. Boggle.
Having seen Ted 2 this week*, I'm surprised you didn't think to mention the language - every review describes Ted as foul-mouthed, the drug use, the prostitutes, the sexism and teenage humour? There was a quote part way through the film where John (the boy, now man) says he had just wanted a friend to smoke marijuana with, and the trouble with his wife was that she wouldn't.
Ted 2 has Ted married and wanting a child so he has to prove his personhood, which could be an interesting concept but the drug use wasn't something I found particularly helpful. There was one scene where they find a hemp field, which would be unlikely to contain much in the way of active drug in that form, more grown for the fibres and oils, but there's no acknowledgement or understanding of that. (And that could have been funny).
I also saw Minions last week and suspect you would have had to have seen Despicable Me to really enjoy this. They attempted to do a reflection of London, a bit as Paddington successfully pulled off, this time set in the 60s, but it was very cartoonish and I wasn't engaged.
* for my own sanity, I sandwiched Ted 2 between seeing Simon Armitage read his Death of King Arthur and David Crystal discussing original pronounciation, accompanied by Ben Crystal and his players, Passion in Practice.
Posted by leo (# 1458) on
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Originally posted by leo:
Ted - about a lonely Jewish boy whose teddy bear comes to life and befriends him.
Blink. Boggle.
Having seen Ted 2 this week*, I'm surprised you didn't think to mention the language - every review describes Ted as foul-mouthed, the drug use, the prostitutes, the sexism and teenage humour? There was a quote part way through the film where John (the boy, now man) says he had just wanted a friend to smoke marijuana with, and the trouble with his wife was that she wouldn't.
Ted 2 has Ted married and wanting a child so he has to prove his personhood, which could be an interesting concept but the drug use wasn't something I found particularly helpful.
Language and drugs don't particularly bopther me. Violence does.
I didn't know there was a Ted 2 so I will order it.
Posted by Curiosity killed ... (# 11770) on
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I was with a teenage boy and really wasn't happy about the drug use being so prominent and the downsides not being highlighted. There were a couple of hints (comments about reduction in fertility and tubal damage in women following cocaine use), but they were asides alongside the pleasure shown in the drug use. That level of marijuana use would make employment challenging and the chances of psychosis are high, neither of which were shown. Drugs are a major feature of the Ted films, not a minor detail as I have often seen in other films.
The language doesn't worry me particularly, but your review followed one where someone was commenting on the language in Spy, so a particularly foul-mouthed film is probably worth commenting on on this thread as we are hopefully recommending or otherwise the films we have seen and giving reasons.
Posted by Mamacita (# 3659) on
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My son and I went to see the new Pixar movie, Inside Out. It was utterly delightful, and I recommend it.
This movie is superb. It completely remembers (and respects) how difficult it is to be a pre-teen. It is brilliant (and hilarious and moving) in how it portrays psycho/social processes.
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One of the friends who have been coming to cheer my recovery from a hip replacement brought the two Best Exotic Marigold Hotel films in DVD form. We watched the first yesterday - the Judi Dench, Maggie Smith combination is to die for, not to mention the lineup of superb British actors. Though I gather that Richard Gere appears in no.2. Funny and truthful romcom, and a pleasure to see a story concentrating on older characters. I could say the same for the possibly even less realistic plot-wise Quartet
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In Marigold One I think the star performance, amongst a lot of brilliant performances, goes to Penelope Wilton as The Unbearable Wife - she is a brilliant and under-rated actress - but the whole thing is a delight from beginning to end though it bears little resemblance to actually living in India at all!
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No 2 left so many dangling ends that I have a feeling it's going to rival Star Wars for the number of sequels.
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Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on
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Just in case you can't actually get out of the house...
I have been binging on this site all day. It looks like it might join cracked.com on my list of goto time wasters. Go up to the Channels link on the upper left corner, pick a subject that interests you, and browse.
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on
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I've just watched Dr Strangelove again - one of the greatest movies ever, I'd say.
Brilliantly funny, in a rather macabre setting.
Posted by Gill H (# 68) on
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I will join the chorus of Inside Out fans. Profound and wise, with a beautiful way to explore the emotional world. And a good gag about bears in San Francisco...
I wanted to show this film to everyone I know who suffers from depression, or loves those who do. It has some really helpful insights.
Also, for the Disney parks geeks - Grim Grinning Ghosts (the Haunted Mansion theme)! And a picture of Figment!
The short film before, 'Lava', had me blubbing too. Beautiful animation about volcanoes in Hawaii, of all things.
Posted by lilBuddha (# 14333) on
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I wanted to show this film to everyone I know who suffers from depression, or loves those who do. It has some really helpful insights.
You know, I did not see it this way. I suppose I was too locked in to the child growing older theme. You have just elevated my opinion of this movie. My thanks.
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The short film before, 'Lava', had me blubbing too. Beautiful animation about volcanoes in Hawaii, of all things.
This and Boundin' are my current Pixar short films.
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Here's another vote for Inside Out. I hadn't been sure whether I wanted to watch it but was so so glad I was dragged along. It was amazing the way it tackled such a complex theme in such a "penny dropping" way and so often I thought "Yes, that's it, exactly!"
Extremely embarrassed to find myself going all weepy over a bloomin' volcano and then again over the self-sacrificial act of a blinkin' imaginary friend..... Obviously I was sitting in a draught which interfered with my eyes again.
Posted by Brenda Clough (# 18061) on
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I was impressed with the depth of INSIDE OUT. And the view into other heads was delightful. Now at last we have an explanation for why the cat gallops through the house.
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on
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In complete contrast I have just watched a DVD of Carry on Cleo which was just as dreadful as I thought it might be - funny though in all its predictability.
Posted by Eigon (# 4917) on
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"Infamy! Infamy! They've all got it in fer me!"
I went to see Mr Holmes the other evening, and what a lovely film it is. I was quite choked up at the end. Ian McKellan was brilliant, of course, as the 93 year old Holmes, but so was the boy Roger (Milo Parker) and his housekeeper mother Laura Linney. One part of the plot takes place in Hiroshima, shortly after the end of the Second World War, and that was fascinating.
I was also amused to see, among the credits at the end of the film, two "Knitters" - one of whom must have knitted young Roger's swimming costume.
Well worth seeing.
Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on
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I have never regretted seeing a single thing with Laura
Linney in it. She is destined to be remembered as one of the greats.
Posted by Sir Kevin (# 3492) on
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Dunno if we'll watch any films in August... Shall read the film section in Friday's newspaper tomorrow.
Just because films have big-name actors and actresses (Jennifer Garner) doesn't mean they are any good: I worked on that one with Jamie Foxx and it failed miserably!
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I have never regretted seeing a single thing with Laura
Linney in it. She is destined to be remembered as one of the greats.
I certainly did not regret seeing Love Actually, but that was in spite of her character, not because of it. Her storyline seemed out of place, even allowing for the multipronged plot structure.
And, while I'd imagine that somwhere at some point there have been siblings who moe together to the same country, in that movie it seemed rather artificial, to justify the presence of an American actor in a British movie.
(Mind you, nothing strained credibility as much as the American expats in the re-make of The Grudge. Are there actually social-service agencies in Japan made up largely of foreigners, but with Japanese clients?)
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Maybe Richard Curtis was just looking for an excuse to work with her...
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I just came back from the 2015 Capitolfest in Rome, NY, a three day festival of silent movies and early talkies, shown in a glorious old movie palace (The Capitol Theater).
I won't load you down with mentioning every film shown (it was a three-day festival, generally going from 9:30am to around 11:00pm).
One curiosity was Blue Jeans (1917). This was based on a popular play of the same name and its main claim to fame is that it introduced audiences to the classic “Saw Mill Scene”—you know the one, where a character is tied to a log and heading toward the spinning blade of the saw mill. Now, here is a curious point. In popular imagery, when the saw mill bit is done, it is usually the damsel-in-distress who is tied up and headed towards the saw, to be rescued by the rugged hero. But here, in its first iteration, the roles are reversed. It is the male lead who is unconscious and heading towards the spinning blade, and it is the female lead who courageously breaks out of the room where she was locked in and manages to get him out of the way of the saw just before it hits him.
My favorite film of the weekend was the last one shown, The Dixie Flyer (1926). This was a fast-paced railroad-story, with an evil robber baron, a plucky heroine and a hero who had the impressive ability to lose almost every fistfight he was in until the final one. In fact, about two-thirds of the way through the film, the plucky heroine again rescues the male lead—-he is fighting on a moving flatbed car (and losing) and she, who had been in a locomotive trailing the flatbed car, jumps from the locomotive onto the flatbed car carrying a big wrench to sock the bad guy over the head with. And, honestly, that was one of the minor stunts pulled. The finale is rip-roaring stuff.
The interesting part is that the film is technically still in the process of being restored by the Library of Congress Film Preservation Board (based in Culpeper, VA). This film was once thought to be lost. Then a copy was found with a collector, but in dubious shape. They were able to get some clear images from the middle though. Then another copy was found (actually, it may have been the same collector). They were able to restore most of the film, but they did not have the opening credits. The LoCFPB guys researched type-fonts used to advertise the film and re-made the opening credits using that. But it was announced at the festival (by a guy from LoCFPB) that they just located a third copy of the film and that copy has the opening credits—so this festival is the last time the re-made credits will be used (it turns out they were completely wrong about how the credits looked…). The third copy also has the last 4 minutes of the film complete without breaks, which will be better than what was shown, which was made up piecemeal from the two other copies. It is kind of neat to see a film that is in the process of restoration.
That, of course, is part of the fun of going to this festival: to see films that have been saved from destruction and which often have not been seen publicly since the 1930s. The Dixie Flyer was actually not the primary restored film shown. That honor belonged to Ramona (1928) starring Dolores Del Rio and Warner Baxter as a couple of Native Americans facing prejudice. It’s a tragedy. The story is pretty powerful—in fact, there is a town in California that still presents the play-version of Ramona every year in an outdoor theater. There was also a popular song called “Ramona” that was connected with this film. The downbeat nature of the story makes it hard for me to call the film enjoyable, though. I prefer happy endings.
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I'm so envious, Hedgehog! I'll look forward to seeing those on TCM someday.
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I have never regretted seeing a single thing with Laura Linney in it. She is destined to be remembered as one of the greats.
Nobody does 'nasty woman behind sweet façade,' like Laura. She was awesome in "The House of Mirth."
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Oh, she ROCKED that movie. She was EEEEVIL.
She also does very good "Genuinely nice person with a few rough edges" well-- see "The Mothman Prophecies." And "The Exorcism of Emily Rose."
"Ahh, I hate this superstitious fear mongering crap that has been totally debunked in various journals, I'll be damned if I clutter my mind with this deluded cra-- Laura Linney is in it? Whoa, and Jennifer Damn Carpenter? I'll get the popcorn."
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It was a few weeks ago, but I enjoyed "Shaun the Sheep" as fun animation.
Posted by Twilight (# 2832) on
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Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
Oh, she ROCKED that movie. She was EEEEVIL.
She also does very good "Genuinely nice person with a few rough edges" well-- see "The Mothman Prophecies." And "The Exorcism of Emily Rose."
"Ahh, I hate this superstitious fear mongering crap that has been totally debunked in various journals, I'll be damned if I clutter my mind with this deluded cra-- Laura Linney is in it? Whoa, and Jennifer Damn Carpenter? I'll get the popcorn."
Hee, my thought processes exactly. We live just a few miles from Mothman territory and I've traveled through Point Pleasant a hundred times. I'm really disappointed that I've never had a glimpse of The Mothman or Richard Gere.
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on
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Talking of Richard Gere, he appears in The Second Best Exotic Marigold Hotel which I watched on Thursday, the day it arrived. He is not my favourite actor but he is in such an amazing cast that it is unfair to fault him for being overshadowed by Maggie Smith, Judi Dench, Penelope Wilton, Celia Imrie and all.
It's a great movie full of wonderful one liners, particularly from Maggie Smith and Judi Dench but then the chemistry between them is always a joy.
I may well watch it again today.
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Posted by Hedgehog (# 14125) on
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Originally posted by Eigon:
I went to see Mr Holmes the other evening, and what a lovely film it is. I was quite choked up at the end. Ian McKellan was brilliant, of course, as the 93 year old Holmes, but so was the boy Roger (Milo Parker) and his housekeeper mother Laura Linney.
I just came back from seeing Mr. Holmes. It starts as a film about aging and memory loss, but goes from there to emotional loss, and loneliness, and making mistakes. I found the film almost too sad, but I agree the three leads all gave outstanding performances.
Posted by LeRoc (# 3216) on
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This week, I watched The World's End. Zimbabwean television is so puritan that they block out the whole sound for around 10 seconds whenever there is a hint of a swear word. This irritated me immensely in the beginning, until I saw the humour of it and thought of it as a silent film
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American Ultra.
There's probably a great film to be made by marrying the Jason Bourne scenario with the slacker genre. This wasn't it.
Borrows lazily from both of its concept pools(comics-obsessed pothead convenience clerk who's really a CIA-programmed assassin), without managing to transcend or even enhance either of them.
As well, all the non-white characters are gangbangers, and it's meant to be some sort of terrifying revelation that the CIA is training "mental patients" as killers. I suppose this could be justified as genre-parody, but the film doesn't really establish that purpose to any sufficient degree.
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Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on
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Ghod, that sounds dire.
Posted by Amorya (# 2652) on
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Originally posted by Gill H:
The short film before, 'Lava', had me blubbing too. Beautiful animation about volcanoes in Hawaii, of all things.
This and Boundin' are my current Pixar short films.
I have to say, I didn't like Lava. I found it quite long and boring, and I didn't like the fact that they felt they had to give volcanoes genders.
Inside Out, on the other hand, was amazing!
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Originally posted by Gill H:
The short film before, 'Lava', had me blubbing too. Beautiful animation about volcanoes in Hawaii, of all things.
This and Boundin' are my current Pixar short films.
I have to say, I didn't like Lava. I found it quite long and boring, and I didn't like the fact that they felt they had to give volcanoes genders.
Inside Out, on the other hand, was amazing!
Watched Inside Out with the grandchildren on Tuesday. So clever, and I welled up at the end . A couple of sections went on rather too long for my liking though.
Enjoyed Lava too, very cute, though grandson had to lean over to me to assure me this wasn't the main film.
Posted by Twilight (# 2832) on
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We saw A Walk in the Woods at the movies yesterday -- yes! we left the house and went to the big movies. For once I thought the film did a fine job of capturing the book. Hiking the Appalachian Trail has long been a dream/ now fantasy of mine, so there's that, and Nick Nolte was absolutely hilarious. Lots of critics thought it was boring but we definitely didn't.
One warning is a scene where they hitchhike a ride from a drunk couple with some fairly obvious sex going on in the front seat. Why movies have to throw out these moments that add little and might ruin a film as something you could take your child or grandmother to is mystery to me.
Kelly, thanks for the film shorts link above!
Posted by Stetson (# 9597) on
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Twilight wrote:
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One warning is a scene where they hitchhike a ride from a drunk couple with some fairly obvious sex going on in the front seat. Why movies have to throw out these moments that add little and might ruin a film as something you could take your child or grandmother to is mystery to me.
Possibly to get a more mature rating, because(if I've heard correctly) a G rating(or its equivalent) is pretty-much box office suicide.
That's semi-semi-educated speculation on my part. I do remember watching a few films as a kid, that were basically as tame as anything put out by Disney, but at one point someone would say a swear word. As kids, we thought it was hilarious, so maybe it was all about making the audience think that they were watching something really "adult", and getting some buzz going that way.
I mentioned earlier on this thread that the movie Kingsmen has an incredibly vulgar sexual proposition at the end, and that it seemed incredibly out of place(even for the character). Thinking about it now, it really seems that they were trying to make themselves look like anything but a kids' flick.
Posted by Twilight (# 2832) on
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I loved the film,Nebraska but, in the same vein, Bruce Dern's wife says incredibly vulgar things throughout that seem unrealistic as well as so extreme they sort of throw you out of the movie. She got an Oscar for it.
We recently saw Reese Witherspoon's Wild a similar hiking movie, this time on the Pacific Crest Trail. It was based on a true story with a good redemption arc, but we had to see her promiscuous past as she remembered it in full pornographic glory.
You're probably right, it's about getting the teenage boys buying those tickets.
Posted by Mamacita (# 3659) on
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Earlier this week I went with a friend to see No Escape. Dear God, what violent, racist twaddle. I agreed to go because my friend had received a good recommendation, including assurance that it "really wasn't violent, just action-packed" and that all the violence took place off screen. Well, about 3 minutes into the film there's quite a bit of unpleasantness and it doesn't let up. I was also dismayed to see it was the film where, as I'd seen in the TV commercials, the desperate parents toss their children from one rooftop to another, and I had sworn to myself there was no way I'd see that film, but couldn't recall the title. Unfortunately I realized way too late that this was indeed that film.
We had a good time at dinner afterwards, reading each other the scathing reviews we found on our phones. One of them said that Pierce Brosnan, Owen Wilson, and Lake Bell give performances "good enough to cover the holes in the plot." I agree their performances were good. And there's one short speech by Brosnan that explains what is going on and why, and why we westerners are guilty for it. Other than that, it's a mess.
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Posted by Lyda*Rose (# 4544) on
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I went to see Diary of a Teenaged Girl.
Whoa.
It is quite well done but man oh man it is barely this side of NC-17. It is about a horny yet naive 15 year old girl named Minnie looking for love by way of sex in San Francisco during the 1970s. Her mom is a post-sixties hippie who is more of a pal than a mother. So she hooks up with her mother's boyfriend, her own bff, a classmate, a doper-mate, and draws very well done erotic art a la R. Crumb, but much more femininely oriented.
Amazingly it has a reasonably happy ending. And the acting and cinematography are very good. It is quite worth seeing if such subject matter doesn't put you off.
ETA: Yeah, probably not for you, Twilight.
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Posted by Eigon (# 4917) on
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I watched Star Trek: First Contact the other night, the one where the Borg go back in time to stop the first ever warp engine flight from Earth, and Picard's Enterprise goes right back after them.
It was still a lot of fun, though it was a bit scary to realise that I saw it on the big screen when it first came out eighteen years ago!
Posted by Twilight (# 2832) on
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Originally posted by Lyda*Rose:
ETA: Yeah, probably not for you, Twilight.
Heh. Thanks Lyda. I'm not quite as prudish as I sound when seeing a movie by myself, but I like to be prepared before I watch something with my son. He turns different colors and runs away mortified not to return until dinner time.
Posted by Stetson (# 9597) on
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To quote myself...
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The film is still pretty well made, but, as I've said before, the serial-killer genre REALLY needs to bring itself back down to Earth.
I re-watched One Hour Photo the other day, and was once again reminded about how refreshing it was in that film to see a lonewolf villain(not technically a serial killer, but in the general moral vicinity) who operates within the limitations of an average person.
As opposed to some supposed neighbourhood sociopath, whose got a sexual-sadism dungeon built into his basement, state-of-the-art torture equipment, video feeds to paying snuff-afficianadoes around the world, and several Swiss bank accounts to keep it all afloat.
I think I really have to blame Silence Of The Lambs for that genre's unfortunate embrace of the Highbrow Monster archetype. Well, that and Se7en.
Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on
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Totally agreed. Se7en was horrifying, but One Hour Photo was chilling on a completely different level, because it showed how normal and near crazy could be.
Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on
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Originally posted by Twilight:
We saw A Walk in the Woods at the movies yesterday -- yes! we left the house and went to the big movies. For once I thought the film did a fine job of capturing the book. Hiking the Appalachian Trail has long been a dream/ now fantasy of mine, so there's that, and Nick Nolte was absolutely hilarious. Lots of critics thought it was boring but we definitely didn't.
One warning is a scene where they hitchhike a ride from a drunk couple with some fairly obvious sex going on in the front seat. Why movies have to throw out these moments that add little and might ruin a film as something you could take your child or grandmother to is mystery to me.
Kelly, thanks for the film shorts link above!
You're welcome! Nifty little site, huh?
(RE: AWITW: I think the Drunk Couple scene was actually described in detail in the book, the point being that our two intrepid travelers were trapped in a car with two people who had no business being behind a wheel, for multiple reasons.)
Posted by lilBuddha (# 14333) on
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Just viewed Reel Injun, a documentary about the history of Hollywoods depiction of Indians. I liked it quite a bit. Nice balance of emotional tone.
Posted by Brenda Clough (# 18061) on
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I saw and enjoyed Mr. Holmes with Ian McKellen. Wrote a review of it.
Posted by lilBuddha (# 14333) on
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Originally posted by Brenda Clough:
I saw and enjoyed Mr. Holmes with Ian McKellen. Wrote a review of it.
What a lovely movie! I would expound, but the reasons I loved it would highlight plot points best experienced whilst viewing.
Posted by Brenda Clough (# 18061) on
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It is not a spoiler to mention that Ian McKellen does a boffo job in the title role. To watch him fade in and out of mental acuity is amazing. A perfect role for him.
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on
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The trailer looked good. Released on DVD here next week - time for a pre-order, I think.
Posted by Lyda*Rose (# 4544) on
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Originally posted by Twilight:
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Originally posted by Lyda*Rose:
ETA: Yeah, probably not for you, Twilight.
Heh. Thanks Lyda. I'm not quite as prudish as I sound when seeing a movie by myself, but I like to be prepared before I watch something with my son. He turns different colors and runs away mortified not to return until dinner time.
Quite understandable on both of your parts.
Posted by Stetson (# 9597) on
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FINALLY saw Singin' In The Rain, about 30 years after my parents tried unsuccessfully to cajole me into watching it on TV. (They were of the age-group that would have been its original target audience).
Kind of interesting to see a "movie about movies" from over 60 years ago, because I tend to regard that as a fairly contemporary genre. I suspect if it had been made today, it would be talked-up as some sort of po-mo rebuttal to the Hollywood musical, or something like that.
As far as any social insights went, I did find myself reflecting upon what an upheavel the transition from silent to sound must have been for the film industry. In the scene where all the Hollywood stars and execs gathered at the party watch a sample of a talking picture, you have to think that impending unemployment was on the minds of a lot of them. Not that this issue was unique to that time, place, or industry.
Other than that, I'm not a huge fan of musicals, and I've now filled my quota for about the next five years.
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Posted by Hedgehog (# 14125) on
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Originally posted by Stetson:
Kind of interesting to see a "movie about movies" from over 60 years ago, because I tend to regard that as a fairly contemporary genre.
Oh, bless your heart. You can find examples of that genre practically as old as movies themselves. Take, for example, Souls For Sale (1923).
Yes, I said 1923.
Posted by Stetson (# 9597) on
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Originally posted by Hedgehog:
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Originally posted by Stetson:
Kind of interesting to see a "movie about movies" from over 60 years ago, because I tend to regard that as a fairly contemporary genre.
Oh, bless your heart. You can find examples of that genre practically as old as movies themselves. Take, for example, Souls For Sale (1923).
Yes, I said 1923.
Yeah, I figured there must have been some MAMs prior to the early 50s, but my knowledge of early film is pretty spotty, so I really couldn't have said for sure.
It occured to me while watching Singing In The Rain that the Angry Movie Director Yelling "Cut Cut Cut!" has become a stock image, almost entirely as a result of movies themselves. It must be kind of odd for directors to direct that particular scene.
Posted by jedijudy (# 333) on
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I went with a group of friends to see A Walk in the Woods. The very best part of the movie was the scenery, IMHO. And Emma Thompson.
You know, they really didn't need all the F bombs that were sprinkled so liberally throughout. And why (spoiler alert!) would they not use their hiking sticks?
The whole movie seemed disjointed to me. I'm glad we went, but won't be adding it to my DVD collection.
Most of our group had been at several of the locations pictured in July. That was probably the most enjoyable part of the movie for us! At the local hamburger joint later that evening, we had a good laugh remembering our experiences at those places, completely ignoring the characters' adventures in those same places! Oh well!
Posted by Sir Kevin (# 3492) on
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Originally posted by Brenda Clough:
I saw and enjoyed Mr. Holmes with Ian McKellen. Wrote a review of it.
We saw it. We liked it. Rather a long drive to the cinema where it was showing, but worth it. Cumberbatch never fails.
Can you provide a link to your review?
Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on
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Originally posted by Hedgehog:
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Originally posted by Stetson:
Kind of interesting to see a "movie about movies" from over 60 years ago, because I tend to regard that as a fairly contemporary genre.
Oh, bless your heart. You can find examples of that genre practically as old as movies themselves. Take, for example, Souls For Sale (1923).
Yes, I said 1923.
Hedgehog, I think you just took the Film Nerd crown.
Posted by Brenda Clough (# 18061) on
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Here is my review of Mr. Holmes. I review just about every performance or movie I see (not TV, because I rarely watch it) and review it on this site.
Posted by balaam (# 4543) on
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I am watching TheOmen.
(Reply number 666 on this thread.)
Posted by Stetson (# 9597) on
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Originally posted by balaam:
I am watching TheOmen.
(Reply number 666 on this thread.)
I've only seen that on TV, and the re-make in a theatre, but...ugh. Definitely the downhill phase for 1970s theological horror.
For starters, we've got an archeologist solemnly informing us that "some scholars believe that the Common Market is the Antichrist." I'd really like to meet the archeologist who considers Hal Lindsey to be a scholar.
And I somehow doubt that the American ambassador to the United Kingdom would need to have "Anglican" tranlated into "Episcopalian"(as in "...the goings-on at an Episcopalian wedding") for him. Though presumably an American audience might.
[ 16. September 2015, 16:18: Message edited by: Stetson ]
Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on
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Originally posted by balaam:
I am watching TheOmen.
(Reply number 666 on this thread.)
Ok, Hedgehog may have to give up the crown...
Posted by leo (# 1458) on
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Left Behind - about the rapture. Even sillier than the belief itself but quite entertaining
Posted by Stetson (# 9597) on
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Originally posted by leo:
Left Behind - about the rapture. Even sillier than the belief itself but quite entertaining
It was fun a few years back to watch A Thief In The Night on YouTube, and laugh it off as 70s kitsch.
But then you realize "No, no, they're still making these films."
The other night I watched Trash(not the Paul Morrisey thing from the 60s), a film set in the slums of Rio De Janeiro, and mostly in Portguese, but scripted by Ricahrd Curtis and directed by Stephen Daldry(who did Billy Elliot), with Martin Sheen doing a minor role to generate some star-power.
Not an entirely successful hybridaztion of sensisbilities. It came off as Disney Does The Third World(though it's not actually a Disney film).
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God, that sounds cringeworthy.
Posted by Stetson (# 9597) on
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Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
God, that sounds cringeworthy.
Well, as a caveat, I'll throw in that I had a bit of difficulty following the plot(it's sort of a crime caper thing, with twists and turns), which somewhat marred my enjoyment of the movie. So my perception might be a little tainted by that.
For anyone who likes movies about slum-urchins getting into mischief, it's probably worth a look. Don't expect something on the calibre of Slumdog Millionaire, though.
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Posted by Rev per Minute (# 69) on
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Saw 'Captive' at the weekend. Largely enjoyed it but felt that the filmmakers chickened out with the way they ended the movie. I liked both the leads but, having invested in making the escaped convict vulnerable and understandable, it finished with a list of his crimes and basically said we were fools for feeling sorry for him. It seemed as if the studio was scared into adding the 'But he didn't deserve your sympathy!' codicil.
ETA - the Cineworld summary of the film was way off. 'A devout young woman reawakens her captor's faith by reading from "A Purpose-Driven Life".' The only accurate thing about that was the name of the book.
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Posted by Full Circle (# 15398) on
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I've saw MacBeth by Justin Kurzel two days ago and am still thinking about it. Definitely some new interpretation of the words and some brilliant moments and also slightly surreal. Lots of words cut and moved about. I will have to go again to decide whether I really liked it or really didn't!
Posted by Lyda*Rose (# 4544) on
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I went to see "The Martian" and quite enjoyed it. It is a rather old fashioned tale of can-do spirit, a lot of pretty decent people (even the crusty head of NASA wasn't a monster), and a hell of a hostile universe. It reminded me of rundowns of creative writing plot options: man again man, man against society, man against his own nature, man against fate, or finally man against harsh, natural circumstances. I wouldn't want a steady diet of human near-perfection on screen, but this was fun for a change of pace.
Posted by Bene Gesserit (# 14718) on
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My Other Half has just watched the 2014 version of Godzilla. He described it to me as “a pile of steaming horse manure” with not enough screen-time for the eponymous creature, poor (too dark to see anything) monster sequences and too much over-sentimental idiocy in a dreadful script.
I have decided that, on reflection, I’ll give it a miss.
I am looking forward to seeing The Martian.
Posted by Pine Marten (# 11068) on
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Originally posted by Full Circle:
I've saw MacBeth by Justin Kurzel two days ago and am still thinking about it. Definitely some new interpretation of the words and some brilliant moments and also slightly surreal. Lots of words cut and moved about. I will have to go again to decide whether I really liked it or really didn't!
We saw it a week or so ago. It was ok, but I thought they mucked about too much with it, especially in the bizarre way they killed Lady Macduff & co (no spoilers!) and the way Birnam Wood came to Dunsinane.
Also, although I know of course that films usually cut dialogue, I felt they cut away too many good lines which illustrated the characters' behaviour.
Yesterday I rewatched a dvd of the Polanski Macbeth, and still think it a much better version....not least because I could *hear* the dialogue
Posted by Stetson (# 9597) on
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Originally posted by Lyda*Rose:
I went to see "The Martian" and quite enjoyed it. It is a rather old fashioned tale of can-do spirit, a lot of pretty decent people (even the crusty head of NASA wasn't a monster), and a hell of a hostile universe. It reminded me of rundowns of creative writing plot options: man again man, man against society, man against his own nature, man against fate, or finally man against harsh, natural circumstances. I wouldn't want a steady diet of human near-perfection on screen, but this was fun for a change of pace.
There was a subtle utopianism running through that movie. For instance, in the near future, things are apparently so good between the Chinese and the Americans that a guy can get an important job with an American space agency even though his uncle occupies a similar position with the Chinese agency.
But Ridley Scott's films often contain a liberal-tinted glorification of the military and its allied institutions. In G.I. Jane, for example, the drill seargent is portrayed as an urbane devotee of J.M. Coetzee novels. I remember watching that scene and thinking "You wouldn't see Gunnery Sergeant Hartman reading that!"
Posted by Brenda Clough (# 18061) on
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The space and science agencies are not as tight, security-clearance-wise, as the true military. Nor does having relatives in a foreign country prevent you from getting a top clearance, especially if you can state that you are not cozy with them or perhaps have not even met them.
And it would astonish you, the things that members of the US Armed forces can do. My daughter was stationed in Afghanistan, where it turns out the wifi is not very good. So, feeling dull, she wrote a novel.
Posted by ArachnidinElmet (# 17346) on
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Originally posted by Full Circle:
I've saw MacBeth by Justin Kurzel two days ago and am still thinking about it. Definitely some new interpretation of the words and some brilliant moments and also slightly surreal. Lots of words cut and moved about. I will have to go again to decide whether I really liked it or really didn't!
I enjoyed Macbeth much more than I thought I was going to having seen some of the reviews. Knowing it was going to play fast and loose with some of the text helped. I thought it was very clever how the text had been cut; the one or two places where events had been shifted served the story well. The deaths of the MacDuff family being the catalyst for Lady MacBeth becoming unhinged, something that doesn't happen in the original, makes sense.
Apart from any storytelling reservations, the film is just stunning. The misty Scottish landscape and the low-key medieval homestead background all serve the atmosphere of desperation.
The last scene was an interesting addition, implying that we hadn't seen the last battle of succession for the Scottish throne.
Posted by ArachnidinElmet (# 17346) on
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Originally posted by Pine Marten:
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Originally posted by Full Circle:
I've saw MacBeth by Justin Kurzel two days ago and am still thinking about it. Definitely some new interpretation of the words and some brilliant moments and also slightly surreal. Lots of words cut and moved about. I will have to go again to decide whether I really liked it or really didn't!
We saw it a week or so ago. It was ok, but I thought they mucked about too much with it, especially in the bizarre way they killed Lady Macduff & co (no spoilers!) and the way Birnam Wood came to Dunsinane.
Also, although I know of course that films usually cut dialogue, I felt they cut away too many good lines which illustrated the characters' behaviour.
Yesterday I rewatched a dvd of the Polanski Macbeth, and still think it a much better version....not least because I could *hear* the dialogue
Sorry for the double-post, I've only just noticed this. Although I obviously enjoyed the film more than you did, Full Circle, you're right about the Birnham Wood thing. It was a bit of a reach.
I've never got on with the Polanski Macbeth though, I much prefer the semi-stage Ian McKellen version (especially Bob Peck as MacDuff).
Posted by leo (# 1458) on
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High Plains Drifter - Clint Eastwood as an anti-hero cowboy
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Posted by Stetson (# 9597) on
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Originally posted by Brenda Clough:
The space and science agencies are not as tight, security-clearance-wise, as the true military. Nor does having relatives in a foreign country prevent you from getting a top clearance, especially if you can state that you are not cozy with them or perhaps have not even met them.
And it would astonish you, the things that members of the US Armed forces can do. My daughter was stationed in Afghanistan, where it turns out the wifi is not very good. So, feeling dull, she wrote a novel.
Well, in the movie, the American space-techie is close enough to his Chinese space-techie uncle that he can just casually call him up and ask for assistance in rescuing the astronaut from Mars. Point taken, though, about space agencies being more easygoing than the military proper.
As for what members of the armed forces can do, I don't doubt that there are those among them who would read, or even write, highbrow fiction. But it does strike me as something that Ridley Scott is likely to portray, moreso than Stanley Kubrick(as per my Gunnery Sergeant Hartman reference).
Posted by Stetson (# 9597) on
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Cybernatural
Called "Unfriended" over here in Asia.
I never really jumped onto the "found footage horror" bandwagon, but this one had enough novelty to keep me sufficiently entetained for the duration.
A pretty cliched "slasher-revenge" story, templated by Friday The 13th, but set entirely on a computer screen, on which are shown the goings-on at various social networking sites.
Interesting appropriation of cyberbullying news stories as stand-in for the archetypal "Jason" narative. I suppose it might be in somewhat dubious taste to use current, real-life news items for plot inspiration, but it's not like those stories aren't already plastered all over the place to begin with. And, anyway, the film(like most of the genre) comes down pretty hard AGAINST bullying.
Worth a look for horror(especially found footage) fans, but don't expect breathtaking storyline innovation.
Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on
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I've seen that on On Demand here ( also "Unfriended" ). They kept playing the snippet of the blonde girl snapping,"the glitch just typed!" and her delivery was so on point I was afraid that would be the best moment in the movie. But I will check it out.
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on
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%^&()$#!@#!!!
Bloody BBC or someone keeps changing the release date for the DVD of Mr Holmes.
I ordered it weeks ago, the date has been changed twice and I want it now!
Posted by Stetson (# 9597) on
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They kept playing the snippet of the blonde girl snapping,"the glitch just typed!" and her delivery was so on point I was afraid that would be the best moment in the movie.
There are better moments than that, I'd say, though it isn't really a "moment" based flick. The attraction is more the overall buildup, rather than any particular scene.
Posted by LeRoc (# 3216) on
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I also watched The Martian, yesterday evening. Like others on this thread, I found its optimism a bit over the top ("Any problem can be solved by doing the maths!" "Never accept that you're going to die!" "Years of being alone has no effect on you at all!"), but I managed to block that out reasonably well. There was plenty to make this an enjoyable film.
Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on
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Originally posted by Stetson:
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They kept playing the snippet of the blonde girl snapping,"the glitch just typed!" and her delivery was so on point I was afraid that would be the best moment in the movie.
There are better moments than that, I'd say, though it isn't really a "moment" based flick. The attraction is more the overall buildup, rather than any particular scene.
Good. A film should be more than a bunch of snappy one liners.
Posted by Lyda*Rose (# 4544) on
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I saw (and heard) something very cool this evening. At a local university they showed the 1924 production of "Peter Pan" aided by a very talented organist who is a top expert in silent movie accompaniment. The movie was very playful and well done, and the music was fabulous!
Posted by Trudy Scrumptious (# 5647) on
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Originally posted by LeRoc:
I also watched The Martian, yesterday evening. Like others on this thread, I found its optimism a bit over the top ("Any problem can be solved by doing the maths!" "Never accept that you're going to die!" "Years of being alone has no effect on you at all!"), but I managed to block that out reasonably well. There was plenty to make this an enjoyable film.
I thought it was a great adaptation of the book, which I loved. I think it was quite deliberate on the author's part to create a character whose approach to being stranded alone, probably to die, on an alien planet, was so purely pragmatic. He has a few moments of angst in the movie (there are a few more in the book) but for the most part, he's just focused on doing what it takes to survive, and that fits with the type of person he is (a character I think Matt Damon portrays brilliantly). It's rare that I read a book, enjoy it, and then think they did a really great job with the movie, but The Martian definitely qualified.
Posted by Stetson (# 9597) on
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Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
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Originally posted by Stetson:
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They kept playing the snippet of the blonde girl snapping,"the glitch just typed!" and her delivery was so on point I was afraid that would be the best moment in the movie.
There are better moments than that, I'd say, though it isn't really a "moment" based flick. The attraction is more the overall buildup, rather than any particular scene.
Good. A film should be more than a bunch of snappy one liners.
Something I've noticed the last little while is when certain lines from certain films get canonized as "snappy one liners", when in fact I'm pretty sure the line was never meant to be anything memorable.
For example, I've heard Godfather fans lovingly recite "Try the veal, it's the best in the city", as if it was up there with "Rosebud" or "Mrs. Robison, are you trying to seduce me?" for iconic movie quotes. But I don't think it's much more than filler dialogue, at most the standard respone that you'd expect the guy to give after being asked about the quality of food in the restautant.
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Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on
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It was probably ad- lib, for that matter.
On the other hand, some movies ( "Total Recall" springs to mind) seem like the writer/ director/ whoever was so concerned about creating enough content for an impressive trailer that every other shot is a close up with some stand- alone punchline or portentous statement.
Posted by Stetson (# 9597) on
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Gentleman's Agreement, from 1946.
Rather long-winded "problem film" about anti-semitism, which makes what I think are probably today considered fairly obvious points about the inadequacy of superficial commitment in the battle against prejudice. "Don't just talk about how bad it is generally, speak out against in in your own social circles", that sort of thing.
Not exactly breathtaking social analysis for anyone raised on Norman Lear sitcoms, though it's always interesting to see how issues that are still current today were treated by earlier generations.
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^ The movie contains the following line, jokingly delivered by Gregory Peck after his son tells him that his(Peck's) mother made some disparaging comments about him...
"Well, I think I might have to slug your grandmother."
It occurs to me that many people today would consider this type of joke to be as objectionable as the anti-semitic humour that the film condemns.
Posted by leo (# 1458) on
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'Invictus' about newly elected Nelson mandela as president supporting the Spirngboks rugby team.
Posted by Stetson (# 9597) on
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'Invictus' about newly elected Nelson mandela as president supporting the Spirngboks rugby team.
Good film, about an event not widely discussed outside of South Africa and rugby circles. Credible performances from Matt Damon and especially Morgan Freeman.
That said, South Africans of my acquaintance have told me that Damon's accent was not very accurate. And someone REALLY needs to tell Clint Eastwood that neither he nor anyone in his family is a composer. That one scene accompanied by his son singing some sentimental drivel was just awful. (This is a general complaint of mine about all Eastwood's films.)
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Posted by leo (# 1458) on
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Originally posted by Stetson:
That one scene accompanied by his son singing some sentimental drivel was just awful. (This is a general complaint of mine about all Eastwood's films.)
I lioke sentimental - have just watched Prerty Woman about a business man who falls in love with a prostitute.
Also Stardust where a falling start turns out to be the woman of a young man's dreams.
Posted by Stetson (# 9597) on
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Originally posted by Stetson:
That one scene accompanied by his son singing some sentimental drivel was just awful. (This is a general complaint of mine about all Eastwood's films.)
I lioke sentimental - have just watched Prerty Woman about a business man who falls in love with a prostitute.
Also Stardust where a falling start turns out to be the woman of a young man's dreams.
I like sentimental too. Give me a good rom-com any day. But the type of sentimentality imparted by the music in that scene was really out of place for the movie.
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Posted by Mr Clingford (# 7961) on
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I lioke sentimental - have just watched Prerty Woman about a business man who falls in love with a prostitute...
I like sentimental too. Give me a good rom-com any day.
Not Pretty Woman then.
Posted by leo (# 1458) on
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Million Dollar Baby - about a female boxer and moral dilemmas - another Clint Eastwood film.
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Superman - given that it was made so long ago, the special effects are very advanced.
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What If...
Smarter-than-average, Canadian-made rom-com starring Daniel Radcliffe and Zoe Kazan as platonic friends dancing around the edges of becoming more than that.
Maybe because it was produced at an arm's length from the Hollywood Dream Factory, it has fuller characterizations and more clever dialogue. Though I am not an expert on how twentysomethings talk and act these days, I suspect it probably captured the generational zeitgeist pretty realistically.
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Superman - given that it was made so long ago, the special effects are very advanced.
I remember going to see that with my father, who had seen Star Wars, and my mother, who hadn't. Mom was pretty adamant that the special-effects were brilliant, my dad, considerably less so. My father opined to my mother that she would not be that impressed with Superman had she seen Star Wars.
Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on
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Originally posted by Stetson:
What If...
Smarter-than-average, Canadian-made rom-com starring Daniel Radcliffe and Zoe Kazan as platonic friends dancing around the edges of becoming more than that.
Maybe because it was produced at an arm's length from the Hollywood Dream Factory, it has fuller characterizations and more clever dialogue. Though I am not an expert on how twentysomethings talk and act these days, I suspect it probably captured the generational zeitgeist pretty realistically.
Zoe Kazan is a treasure. I saw the trailer and Adam Driver is in it, too-- he's a guy to watch, too.
I am in the middle of watching "Unfriended" and I have to say, seeing a horror film generated from the mundane internet stuff you see everyday is really unsettling. Nothing really bad has happened yet, a I am still freaked out.
Also, it's fun to be watching a haunted internet movie and have the page start having freaky loading issues...thank you, computer, for adding to my viewing experience.
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Amistad - about slaves on trial for staging a revolt on board ship.
Posted by Stetson (# 9597) on
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Also, it's fun to be watching a haunted internet movie and have the page start having freaky loading issues...thank you, computer, for adding to my viewing experience.
Hm. I never considered that angle. I don't own a computer myself, and watched the film on a big-screen TV at a "DVD Room"(where you rent films amd watch them on-site). But, thinking about it, yeah, I'd imagine it does add to the experience.
Given the way films are watched these days, I'd imagine that the filmakers took into account that lots of people would be watching it on a computer.
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The Rewrite. Fairly standard Hugh Grant rom-com, with Grant doing a broad reprisal of his slightly over-the-hill, semi-roguish entertainment figure finding love. If you liked About A Boy and Music With Lyrics, you might wanna check this out.
A few well-drawn vignettes of university life, albeit with some fairly easy shots at campus political correctness.
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I couldn't suspend my disbelief in the way police work was handled in "Secret in Their Eyes". I watch "The First 48" quite a bit and from it my understanding of homicide investigation kept me from investing in the story where the law enforcement characters played pretty fast and loose with evidence gathering even for a movie. I also remember seeing the original Argentinian film which was much better as I recall. And since I don't know police procedure in that culture, anything iffy (and not much was) I slid over without a problem. The acting in this production was quite good, however.
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Kill Your Darlings - Allen Ginsberg as a young man and the influences upon him.
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Posted by Stetson (# 9597) on
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Kill Your Darlings - Allen Ginsberg as a young man and the influences upon him.
My favorite scene in that film was when, after all they go through with the legal problems etc, Burroughs' father shows up to bail him out, orders him back home, and Bill replies with a sheepish "Yes, sir".
Pretty funny, if you know anything about Burroughs subsequent image as a the ultimate rebel. (In fairness, an image cultivated more by his fans than by Burroughs himself, who could actually be fairly modest and unassuming.)
And quite the contrast with Ben Foster's earlier role in Alpha Dog!
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Posted by Lyda*Rose (# 4544) on
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I went to see "Brooklyn". A charming romance about an immigrant from Ireland to New York who has to decide where home would really be for her. Amazingly gentle and innocent.
(So, no, nothing "blowed up real good" in this movie.
Gotta wait for "Star Wars".)
Posted by L'organist (# 17338) on
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I finally went to see Spectre as a b***hday treat. Saw it in I-Max too!
Blimey, it was loud. Even though wearing ear-plugs I still needed paracetamol to deaden the pain when I got home.
Good film though, despite Daniel Craig thinking that acting consists of narrowing his eyes and wearing a suit so ludicrously tight it reminded me of Tom Kitten
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I've just got an extra tick on my geek credentials. Have booked a ticket to see the showing of the new Star Wars film at 1 minute past midnight next Wednesday night/Thursday morning.
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on
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Last night I watched Holes a kids movie by Disney and tonight I watched the Googie Gomez spectacular The Ritz with Rita Moreno portraying her alter ego - the movie is 40 years old next year and still very funny. Forget the plot - Googie is worth it every time!
Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on
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I just got done seeing Frances Ha, which was nominated for just about everything in the Independent Spirit Awards the year it came out-- made a mental note to see it and never did.
It was wonderful.
Seriously, it reminded me of the good old days of independent film, when you would sit back and watch a Jim Jarmusch film and not know what was coming. It is authentic, organic, and nuanced-- a deep character study of a 2o something would-be professional dancer who is floundering in her career, her romantic life, and her living arrangements. The core of the story revolves around her trying to find her way after having lost her one centering feature-- her best friend moves out of their shared apartment to a fancier one .
The titular Frances is a glorious hot mess, but despite her accumulation of mistakes she is still easy to love.
Posted by jedijudy (# 333) on
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Originally posted by Sipech:
I've just got an extra tick on my geek credentials. Have booked a ticket to see the showing of the new Star Wars film at 1 minute past midnight next Wednesday night/Thursday morning.
Not quite as geeky, I'm seeing it early in the evening on Thursday! When I had fewer gray hairs, I would go to the midnight showings.
Four more days!
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Seven Pounds - a man commits suicide so that his organs can be used to save the lives of seven people e.g. heart transplant.
He does this out of guilt because he caused a road accident that killed seven people.
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Posted by Stetson (# 9597) on
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Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
I just got done seeing Frances Ha, which was nominated for just about everything in the Independent Spirit Awards the year it came out-- made a mental note to see it and never did.
It was wonderful.
Seriously, it reminded me of the good old days of independent film, when you would sit back and watch a Jim Jarmusch film and not know what was coming. It is authentic, organic, and nuanced-- a deep character study of a 2o something would-be professional dancer who is floundering in her career, her romantic life, and her living arrangements. The core of the story revolves around her trying to find her way after having lost her one centering feature-- her best friend moves out of their shared apartment to a fancier one .
The titular Frances is a glorious hot mess, but despite her accumulation of mistakes she is still easy to love.
I think the part I liked best was when she flies to Paris, and doesn't do much of anything. It's even implied that she didn't bother to walk a few blocks to see the Eiffel.
I guess I liked that, 'cuz it's basically the way I travel. Spent a week in San Francisco in the 90s, never once saw the Golden Gate Bridge or Alcatraz.
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I think I post this every year, but bear with me. I just finished my annual viewing of the original Miracle on 34th Street (1947). Accept no substitutes.
The casting of this movie is incredible. Maureen O'Hara (who died this past year) as practical non-nonsense Doris. John Payne as the intelligent but idealistic attorney Fred. Edmund Gwenn simply IS Kris Kringle. The right height, the right girth, the right beard. Natalie Wood is wonderful as little Susan--avoiding the trap of being the overly precocious child that Hollywood tends to show us, she comes across as a real child, with just the right amount of both credulity and disbelief.
But the amazing thing is the bit players who are so perfectly cast. The "Drunk Santa" (Percy Helton) that Kringle replaces in the parade (somewhat reluctantly, after explaining to Doris "I am not in the habit of substituting for spurious Santa Clauses!"). The little Dutch girl (Marlene Lyden) who, while rattling on in Dutch, turns and gives a look of pure love toward her adopted mother (Mary Field). Lela Bliss' great comic turn as the drunk Mrs. Shellhammer. The granddaughter (Patty Smith) of Judge Harper (Gene Lockhart) gives one of the best "hmph!" you will ever hear. William Frawley as the judge's campaign manager....
You get the idea. Everybody nails their respective parts perfectly, even the child actors. I love this film.
Oddly, when this movie was first released, it was not a "holiday" movie: it was released on May 2, 1947--not exactly when you'd expect a movie about Santa Claus.
Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on
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Originally posted by Stetson:
I think the part I liked best was when she flies to Paris, and doesn't do much of anything. It's even implied that she didn't bother to walk a few blocks to see the Eiffel.
I guess I liked that, 'cuz it's basically the way I travel. Spent a week in San Francisco in the 90s, never once saw the Golden Gate Bridge or Alcatraz.
Usually it's the locals around here who avoid seeing the major landmarks until well into middle age.
( And screw rhe bridge-- Castro Theater, dude!)
As for the Paris scene--I walked out to fill my tea mug and walked back in and in that time missed the entire Paris scene. That's how eventful it was. I actually thought she was making the trip up until she started griping about the bill.
Posted by Sir Kevin (# 3492) on
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FINALLY saw Singin' In The Rain, about 30 years after my parents tried unsuccessfully to cajole me into watching it on TV.
As far as any social insights went, I did find myself reflecting upon what an upheavel the transition from silent to sound must have been for the film industry. In the scene where all the Hollywood stars and execs gathered at the party watch a sample of a talking picture, you have to think that impending unemployment was on the minds of a lot of them. Not that this issue was unique to that time, place, or industry.
Absolutely the best use of B & W transitioning to colour
and arguably the finest musical of the second half of the 20th century as 42nd Street is the best of the first half. Gene is the most athletic danseur and most manly ever....
Posted by Sipech (# 16870) on
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Here's a suggestion. With the new Star Wars film out this week, would folk be up for a separate thread where we can discuss it once we've seen it?
It would, therefore contain spoilers, but we could keep these separate from the main film thread.
Or is just me & Jedijudi who are interested?
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I know of another who is interested in a separate thread for the new movie. (Three days!!!!!)
Posted by Stetson (# 9597) on
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As for the Paris scene--I walked out to fill my tea mug and walked back in and in that time missed the entire Paris scene. That's how eventful it was. I actually thought she was making the trip up until she started griping about the bill.
I'm not sure if this is the entirety of it, but pretty close.
In addition the the character herself, I guess it's also kinda cool to see a writer/director purposely not genuflecting to the alleged charisma of a great city.
Posted by Stetson (# 9597) on
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and arguably the finest musical of the second half of the 20th century as 42nd Street is the best of the first half. [/QB]
Well, your post, combined with that movie's somewhat idiosyncratic availability at my local DVD room, has got me intrigued. I might check out 42nd Street this weekend, if nothing else comes available.
Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on
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As for the Paris scene--I walked out to fill my tea mug and walked back in and in that time missed the entire Paris scene. That's how eventful it was. I actually thought she was making the trip up until she started griping about the bill.
I'm not sure if this is the entirety of it, but pretty close.
In addition the the character herself, I guess it's also kinda cool to see a writer/director purposely not genuflecting to the alleged charisma of a great city.
Ha! I remember hearing "Everyone's a Winner" from the other room and thinking, cool soundtrack choice.
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Frances Ha is a hot mess. For me it was enlivened by the music which was the same as the movie "King of Hearts".
I'm convinced that Singing in the Rain is the musical of the Buster Keaton short the Cameraman which he made at MGM and which was an in house training film. Another fun fact is that Debbie Reynolds didn't have time to train to sing the songs she was supposed to be backing. So they put in an uncredited cover singer; Jean Hagen.
I just saw "Brooklyn" about an Irish girl immigrating to Brooklyn in the early part of the twentieth century. A slow film with lots of room for the actors to have fun.
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Today I discovered I'd missed a call from a local courier company so popped into their office on my way to the supermarket and collected a package which turned out to be a movie recommended by a Passing Penguin - The Princess Bride.
It was fun and silly but I think I'll have to watch it again some time in the future so I remember the various awful one-liners. Not the greatest movie ever made, by any means, but worth keeping.
eta: It's time I watched Citizen Kane again, which probably is the greatest movie ever made.
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Posted by Penny S (# 14768) on
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The book's good. I'm wondering where my copy is.
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on
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The courier called again today - Mr Holmes has arrived at last! I then came home and have just finished watching it.
Adipoli! That is Malayalam for Wonderful! What an excellent movie, superbly acted, superbly scripted, superbly photographed and that lovely shift in the music in the final scene when it transitions into the major key!
Brilliant, well worth the wait. I'll watch it again tonight or tomorrow, it's that good.
I notice that someone on IMDb.com classed it as a yawnfest - whoever said that has no soul!
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I went to the cinema to see Mr Holmes, and I loved it. Absolutely wonderful.
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Isn't Ian McKellen wonderful in it? You can see Holmes's mind fading in and out in his eyes. A friend of mind noted that the impulse to shout at him, "Stick with it, Sherlock! Don't slip!" was almost irresistible.
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Last night, lying in bed and still completely awestruck by the movie I realised that in a [very strange] way it reminded me of The Lion in Winter with Peter O'Toole and Katherine Hepburn - no similarities except the absolutely bravura performances!
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Also: neither movie is about young people. They are about maturity, about age and the power and problems age offers.
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La famille Belier is formulaic but very enjoyable.
It has apparently copped a bit of flak from deaf people.
The biggest problem for us was the willing suspension of disbelief when the star, who is 18 in real life and looks it, has her first period.
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Today I discovered I'd missed a call from a local courier company so popped into their office on my way to the supermarket and collected a package which turned out to be a movie recommended by a Passing Penguin - The Princess Bride.
It was fun and silly but I think I'll have to watch it again some time in the future so I remember the various awful one-liners. Not the greatest movie ever made, by any means, but worth keeping.
eta: It's time I watched Citizen Kane again, which probably is the greatest movie ever made.
Excellent - can't decide whether I am more pleased that you have finally watched the Princess Bride or that you did as you were told in so doing.
It IS silly, but it's immense fun, and eminently quotable.
Meanwhile tonight the boy and I have been to see
the film . Wonderful!
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on
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Fear is a great motivator!
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I watched Mr Holmes again today and was all awestruck by it second time around - if it were at the opera I'd be flinging flowers on to the stage.
...but no solutions are really offered to the moral dilemma, or are they? To be honest is good, but is it trumped by the requirement to be kind?
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What fascinates me about Holmes is that (although the author carefully never put it there) we instinctively demand an emotional connection from him. A famously unemotional man is made to have emotion, to fall in love, to feel. Why? Why can we not bear the idea of Holmes as a calculating machine? It is the one renovation that is always made, through all the reboots and redos and unauthorized sequels.
Posted by Stetson (# 9597) on
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What fascinates me about Holmes is that (although the author carefully never put it there) we instinctively demand an emotional connection from him. A famously unemotional man is made to have emotion, to fall in love, to feel. Why? Why can we not bear the idea of Holmes as a calculating machine? It is the one renovation that is always made, through all the reboots and redos and unauthorized sequels.
It might have more to do with Hollywood(for which you can read pop culture generally) than with any specific desire to infuse Holmes with emotion. Audiences tend to like stories to have a bit of sappiness in them.
There are quite a few other cases of romance being tossed into a story from which it had been entirely absent in the original. One of the more famous versions of Dr. Jekyll And Mr. Hyde has Jekyll with a girlfriend, whom he unsuccessfully tries to protect from Hyde. The book, by contrast, has no such plotline, and in fact, it seems to me that the absence of prominent female characters is an important part of the story's moral atmosphere.
Back to Holmes for a sec, the movies jiggle with him in numerous ways. For example, in Murder By Decree, in which Freemasonry plays a key role, Holmes at one point informs Watson that he has, in the past, made extensive studies of the Lodge. Whereas, I don't think Conan Doyle usually portrays Holmes' interests as delving too far outside of pure science, does he?
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Conan Doyle wrote about the Freemasons in one of the short stories. I can't remember which, but I have never read the spin offs. It's years since I read any of them.
For romance, what about Irene Adler, The Study in Scarlet and the story of the young lad with a hidden wife. Then there's Watson's romanticism and inconsistent wife/wives.
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Yes, it could be argued that all the emotional life is spun off onto Watson, leaving Holmes as the pure intellect. An interesting parallel to Jekyll and Hyde, which dates from the same period. The Victgorians/Edwardians spent a lot of time wrestling with the dichotomy between flesh and spirit, heart and head. It is significant that they were unanimous in believing that the head/spirit was clearly superior. Flesh and heart had more fun, but were lesser. We moderns prefer a blend of the two, and we complain when we don't get it. Which could explain our rewrites of Holmes -- we make him into a modern figure.
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For romance, what about Irene Adler, The Study in Scarlet and the story of the young lad with a hidden wife. Then there's Watson's romanticism and inconsistent wife/wives.
Watson Was A Woman by Rex Stout
Posted by Stetson (# 9597) on
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Conan Doyle wrote about the Freemasons in one of the short stories. I can't remember which, but I have never read the spin offs. It's years since I read any of them.
But does the story indicate that Holmes had been studying the Masons extensively, apart from his involvement with the case? That's what's stated in Murder By Decree, Holmes stumbles upon some masonic clues in the Ripper case, and immediately starts dazzling Watson with his knowledege of the symbolism, which he claims to have learned through personal study.
In that one, Holmes also gets in a few action scenes, which I suspect is also a departure from Conan Doyle.
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On the Freemason issue, there is an interesting discussion in this article from "The Chattanoogan" (Chattanooga's source for local news--always the first place to go when looking up English detectives and freemasonry...).
As for Holmes being emotion-free, there is that nice bit in "The Three Garridebs" when he thinks Watson has been injured and the emotionless mask slips:
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'You're not hurt, Watson? For God's sake, say that you are not hurt!'
It was worth a wound -- it was worth many wounds -- to know the depth of loyalty and love which lay behind that cold mask. The clear, hard eyes were dimmed for a moment, and the firm lips were shaking. For the one and only time I caught a glimpse of a great heart as well as of a great brain.
Posted by Stetson (# 9597) on
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On the Freemason issue, there is an interesting discussion in this article from "The Chattanoogan" (Chattanooga's source for local news--always the first place to go when looking up English detectives and freemasonry...).
Umm, interesting. But is there a context for this? Did someone else in the Chattanoogan write an article with an incorrect portrayal of masonic symbolism, and Ms. Baker figured she'd reply in short-story form, just for the helluvit?
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Posted by Hedgehog (# 14125) on
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Umm, interesting. But is there a context for this? Did someone else in the Chattanoogan write an article with an incorrect portrayal of masonic symbolism, and Ms. Baker figured she'd reply in short-story form, just for the helluvit?
Actually, Jody Baker was male. And he died this past February.
But he loved the Holmes stories and frequently sent in columns to the Chattanoogan on whatever interested him at the time. He always wrote the columns as if they were written by "Inspector Baynes." There probably was an explanation for that once upon a time, but I don't know it.
So, no, I don't think there is any context other than the subject matter of Holmes and Holmes' knowledge of Freemasons struck his fancy.
Back on the thread topic, one of my Christmas gifts this year is a DVD of William Gillette's Sherlock Holmes (1916). What is remarkable is that it exists. Gillette was a stage actor who, in 1898-99, wrote a stage play about Holmes...more or less with Doyle's blessing. At one point, Gillette cabled Doyle to ask if he might "marry Holmes"--to which Doyle, heartily sick of his creation by this time, responded that Gillette could marry him or murder him or do whatever he liked with him.
The stage play was a hit and made Gillette's reputation. He performed the play some 1,300 times by 1916 and the popular imagination of Holmes was influenced by his portrayal--in fact, the image of Holmes with a curved pipe is purely because of Gillette (who found he could speak his lines easier with a curved pipe than a straight one).
So this film follows the stage play very closely. It uses many of the same stage actors as regularly did the play. It is the one and only film that Gillette ever made, playing a part he was very comfortable in. That is the hook for getting this DVD--the only chance to see a great stage actor playing his most famous part.
The plot is the same as the stage play (and would be used again about six years later when John Barrymore did his version of Sherlock Holmes. What is odd is that, while the Gillette film is more than just a filming of a stage play (there are both exterior and interior shots and massive sets), yet they kept bits that were a bit of stagecraft. For example, early on, Holmes leaves Baker Street and we see Watson, go to a book case, carefully select a book, settle down in a comfy chair and open the book to begin reading. Why? Well, no reason really. It is in the play to allow Gillette time to make a costume change before the next scene--but there is no point to doing that in a film. Yet the Watson scene is still there in the film.
Mind you, Watson doesn't have much to do in the film, so nice of them to keep it in for him.
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Just viewed The Big Short. Higgly recommend it. It is a film about the financial collapse. I will say no more to avoid spoilers beyond there well written with some very good performances.
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Our church has a small social film group, in which we all (usually about a dozen of us) go to a particular film each month - at the cinema of course! - and then gather for cakes , and cocoa or wine afterward. The leader picks the films from what's on offer; she usually picks films slightly on the arty side of mainstream, on the grounds that we'd probably all see James Bond, Star Wars etc anyway.
Our last three were:
The Dressmaker. Comedy-drama about a woman (Kate Winslet) who returns to the very small Australian town from which she was driven out a few years earlier. Lots of laughs early as it proceeds to a denouement in which she gets engaged to another outsider in the village. Hollywood would have stopped there, but Australian film-makers love a quirky twist, so he dies in a silly accident, and she takes her revenge for past wrongs in another way. Suffice it to say that her dressmaking skills are a key part of how she conquers the town's harridans. Recommended.
Phoenix. German film about a woman who survives a concentration camp and returns home (to Berlin in 1946) only to find that her husband doesn't recognise her. Instead, thinking she is someone else , he gets her to pretend that she is the long-lost wife, so that he (through her)can claim a legacy that has come her way. Intriguing , with a brilliant twist at the end.
Carol. Critically acclaimed with Cate Blanchett starring as a New York lesbian in the 1950s. In one word: boring.
So painfully slow that I walked out and others in the cinema were snoring. Might have been watchable if it had been editted down from 2 hours to 30 minutes, but as it is, a waste of good acting talent.
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I had a Series 7 back in the 1980s but I was more successful as a day-trader a few years earlier. I was rubbish as a stockbroker and supported myself before I was married as a day trader!
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